Winter Meetings, Day I: Is it over yet?
by Grant on Dec 7, 2009 1:39 PM PST
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Double-pronged comment starter: What do you think the Giants will do at the Winter Meetings that began today, and what would you like them to do?
I think the Giants will sign Jermaine Dye to a two-year deal for $18M. I think this because the crow with the scythe in my nightmares writes it in blood every night before I wake up. That’s science. Look in your heart. You know it’s true. He’ll be like Moises Alou, but without the blazing speed and ability to hit well. Dye, that is, not the crow.
I expect the Giants to sign a catcher who hits, runs, and fields like Bengie Molina for 20% of the price of the real thing, and they won’t expect the new guy to hit cleanup. It sounds like running in place, but it’s kind of an improvement, especially when Buster Posey hits .400/.500/.600 in the spring to win the job outright. Spring stats are usually the best way to tell if a hitter’s ready, but only if there aren’t any tea leaves or star charts around, so the Giants have the right idea. Don’t just give a hitter the job; make him earn it against guys from A-ball who are going to be sent to the minor league complex the following day.
What I’d like them to do is another story. My affinity for Nick Johnson is well documented, and Brian Sabean told the Chronicle that the Giants would rather keep Pablo Sandoval at third and acquire a first baseman, but I’m wondering if the heavy interest in Johnson will price him out of a sensible contract. If the price is reasonable enough, though, it would be nice to have a .400 OBP in the lineup.
But I’m starting to get a little crazy. I’ve been freebasing MLB Trade Rumors – I mean, I can quit any time I want – and I’m getting a little twitchy. Mainlining Curtis Granderson rumors is a good way to end up in cardiac arrest, but the rush isn't even describable. Granderson is:
- going to be 29 on Opening Day
- coming off a little bit of a down year, but that’s probably because his BABIP was at a career low, so he’s undervalued just a bit
- locked up for the next three years for a combined $24M, and there’s a $13M club option for 2013
- a good defensive center fielder
- a 20- or 30-home run hitter who will probably get 6,203 triples in his first season in San Francisco
- going to be pretty danged expensive to acquire
I just can’t help myself, though. Obviously, Posey stays. But I’d trade anyone else in the farm for Granderson. That most definitely includes Madison Bumgarner, and I don’t think the Tigers would even start talks without him. And I know how crazy that sounds. While I would have been the guy advocating a Foppert-for-Guerrero swap in ’01, I also would have traded Cain for Vernon Wells in ’04. So I know there is enormous potential for a team to look incredibly stupid on this one.
But could you imagine Granderson patrolling center for his peak? Oooh, ooh, and then the Giants trade Aaron Rowand for Milton Bradley. Oooh, ooh, and then John Bowker starts and hits like the projection systems say he can. Oooh, ooh, and then the Giants sign Nick Johnson. Ooooh, and then the Cardinals make an administrative error that gives Albert Pujols to the Giants for a signed Luis Pujols jersey. Oooh, ooh, and then…
I’m sorry you had to see that. Rosterbation can drive a man insane. I’m not totally serious about Granderson, but if the Tigers would take Bumgarner, a #5-#10 prospect, and one of the quasi-interesting twenty-something outfielders, I’d at least listen. And that’s probably too much to give up for a player who only had a 100 OPS+ last year. But I’d at least kick tires with due diligence when the time comes.
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i expect nick johnson on a two year deal…it just makes too much sense
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 7, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions
THIS
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I’m expecting the Giants to kick a lot of tires and come away will a horrible catcher at the meetings and thats it.
what about
overpaying for an immobile, poor fielding, mediocre outfielder?
Tis the season to be crappy.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
No.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I’d totally kick those tires at the end of the day. If we hold onto Jonathan Sanchez, I think trading Madison Bumgarner is defensible. It’d be a way to consolidate our value into the remaining Lincecum-Cain years.
- From the I-Want-Files: Nick Johnson, Curtis Granderson, Josh Hamilton, Nelson Cruz, Nick Swisher, Miguel Cabrera.
- From the What-I-Expect Files: Miguel Olivo.
- From the Straddling-Both-Files File: Dan Uggla.
Are the Rangers even shopping Hamilton?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
What would I like? Curtis Granderson and Nick Johnson.
What do I expect? Jason Kendall and Jermaine Dye.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
expect- Sabes to overpay for Uggla and sign Olivo
want- Nick Johnson and a cheap/high ceiling 5th starter coming off an injury
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I would like to see what this crow with the scythe can do.
If nothing else he should be intimidating to the opposing pitchers, mainly because of the blood dripping off the scythe. I think he’d come cheap too.
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PANTHER SWIPE!
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Has there been any word on what St. Louis is offering yet? All I’ve seen is that they have serious interest and we’re trying to keep him. Any further updates?
I’ve heard it’s $5 million and could go up to $9 mil w/ incentives
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
From Baggs
I tweeted earlier that Brad Penny and the Cardinals were getting close on a contract, which now looks to be an incentive-filled one-year deal with a bigger guaranteed base than what the Giants would offer.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Wow. That’s a lot of scratch.
And I would like Smoltz if he’s cheap enough. I also wouldn’t mind Randy Johnson back.
but you might have to mind Randy Johnson’s back
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Per MLBTR
6:27pm: ESPN’s Buster Olney tweets that a physical is scheduled for Tuesday, and Penny will get a one-year, $7.5MM deal with another $1.5MM in incentives. Pretty big base salary.
My name is JarJar Binks
I am a self proclaimed llama hearder on a quest for salvation. please help me Grant Brisbee… you are my only hope
by Grant on Dec 7, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 14 recs
this is turning into daily awesomeness.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
My boss has mastered the technique of “finding the browser even after it’s minimized.” I repeat, my boss has mastered the technique of “finding the browser even after it’s minimized.” We are at DEFCON 4.
ha ha ha.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
lock your screen dumbass
and be thankful that he doesn’t realize he has admin privs here.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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He knows. He is just merciful. But the dumbass part is definitely deserved. I know there are ways around this with minimal effort.
arriving late to the meme
I take it your boss punishes you by posting Star Wars nerd stuff?
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by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
more emphasis on llama than nerd
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
LLAMAS
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one of the best yet
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Grant’s boss needs to come to the next McC meetup. I’d buy him/her a beer.
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by j14 on Dec 7, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
I would fly back to SF for that.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
YES!!!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
fuck and yes
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Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
What do you think the Giants will do at the Winter Meetings that began today
something stupid
or nothing at all
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Put Pablo back at catcher?!
Why aren’t we hearing any talk of putting Pablo back at catcher? If Posey isn’t ready, and we need another catcher, why not just fill from within? Then are free to look at both 1st and 3rd basemen without wondering where Pablo will play! Is catcher too much of an injury risk for him? Is he really that bad of a MLB catcher? What gives?
Because he’s easily our best hitter and it would diminish his effectiveness and availability to move him behind the plate.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
i was looking on the MLB site and looking at some comments and there are people talking Garko for catcher 2010 if Posey isn’t ready…
I’d rather keep Pablo at 1st or 3rd depending just because he’s a little bigger and it’ll work against him in the long run.
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Pablo is a far superior option to Garko behind the dish.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
i’d take pablo over garko any day…crap I’d take whiteside as a starting catcher over garko
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
What?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Pablo’s bat is too valuable to have him take the regualr catchers days off, or at least this is why I don’t want him catching anymore.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Pablo’s bat isn’t that valuable?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I’d personally prefer Pablo to play as much as possible, but that’s just me.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
I see you point, but my counter argument is stamina. Pablo was slowed by the end of the season playing 3rd base, I could imagine how much sooner he would have slowed if he played C last year. Injury is also a concern with a big bodied guy as well. With our offense so heavily reliant on Pablo, I want him to get as many PAs as possible.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 9, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I expect them to screw things up
They always do.
I want them to trade for Dan Uggla and sign Nick Johnson, Jason Kendall, Adam Kennedy, Orlando Cabrera and Matt Holliday. And trade Aaron Rowand, Freddy Sanchez and Edgar Renteria and extend Lincecum, Wilson, Sanchez and Medders, none of which will happen, except maybe Nick Johnson.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions
Just on the first two
If they really were willing to Dave Roberts Renteria, the IF could look like
3B Panda, SS Sanchez, 2B Uggla, 1B Nick Johnson
And the lineup could be
Velorres
Nick Johnson
Dan Uggla
Pablo Sandoval
Freddy Sanchez
Rowand
Posey or whatever backup trash
Juggernate
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Ha!
Your solution to not SCREW things up includes F Sanchez at SS.
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN AND HIS SSS NUMBERS AT SS AREN'T TERRIBLE
that was a lot of S’s
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TWSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Asked an exec from another club to assess the trade value of the Giants’ three pre-arbitration lefty-hitting outfielders:
Fred Lewis?
"None."
Nate Schierholtz?
"Not much. Pretty much none."
John Bowker?
"Some."
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:11 PM PST reply actions
LOL FRED
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Randy Winn is telling clubs he wants to play fulltime. That might be a challenge, but he should attract lots of interest as a 4th OF in Jan.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions
Just to clarify: Randy Winn is confident he can find a 4th OF job in January if regular job fails to materialize in December.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
I'm confident too
now that he’s left the only team with three starting 4th outfielders
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Justin Duchscherer declined salary arbitration from the A’s. He’s on the open market.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions
Players and GMs hold grudges
Not so sure agents will, but they sure as hell know who the suckers are.
Yeah, but don’t you think that Sabean would hold a grudge against the agent who very publicly trashed his organization?
There’s an old saying in Tennessee. It’s actually in Texas, I’m sure you’ve heard it in Tennessee it goes, fool me once, shame on… Shame on you. You fool me can’t get fooled again.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
makes me lol every time
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Would not mind at all
Just across the bay and to a Pitchers haven.
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YAH :D
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Apparently Giants are in on Brett Myers
Would be a very nice 5th starter with very high upside.
Would be the hardest Giant to root for ever
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Orel Hershiser
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
all three of those were before my time, obviously
but Myers is scum and I don’t want him on the team.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That’s how I felt about Brad Penny. So I’m glad he’s leaving!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Penny's a douche but he's not as Myers's level
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yes. Penny is a douche on a competitive level, while Myers is a douche on the beat-your-wife level. Slight difference.
Oooooh, I forgot about the wifebeating incident. I was thinking about the confrontation between him and Hamels in the postseason, actually.
Why would Sabes be interested in this guy? Not the Gnats way fer sure.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
not at all
I’m glad one of his teammates did.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
IAWTC
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This
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Hanes Tank Top Undershirt Night
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Omar Quintanilla
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 7, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Julio Lugo
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Enrico Palazzo
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
this isn't a fun game
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
You don’t like the Notable Assholes Who You Don’t Want On The Giants Because They’re Terrible People game?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
mostly the violence towards women thing
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Tiger Woods
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Did u hear about the 8 dollar / hr waitress from Perkins that he banged in the back of his Cadillac?
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Tiger: Class act
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
just don't tell your wife about it
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
if a tree falls in the forest
would Tiger put his junk in a knothole?
LOL STANFURD PHILOSOPHY
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Stop drinking the haterade
He didn’t even graduate, so no need to bring the school into this.
LOL Stanfurd
not graduating athletes.
PS. Welcome to the wonderful world of posting!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Not really
He did it in spite of the school. Sadly, he committed suicide in jail years later. I was at Cal around the same time he was, and viewed him as kind of a hero.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I dunno, Elin seemed to regulate on him more than the other way around.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
I thought we were just going for general criminals and despicable sorts.
I’ve never heard that Angel laid a hand on a woman.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I saw Elijah Dukes and Brett Myers and assumed that’s where we were going.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I was just going for ppl that got arrested, sorry if you were offended :x
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Not at all
I really shouldn’t joke about domestic violence in general, but I still do. If I was offended I’d set your house on fire. :)
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
/am glad i live so far away
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He only beat up blacks, cripples, and umpires
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
I’m ok with the umpires part.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa whoa whoa, he would beat up umpires? We have to draw the line somewhere
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
only, eh?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
ugeth urbina?
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For the brave of the free
and the home of the land!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
he wants 2 years
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
exactly.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
" But I’d at least kick tires with due diligence when the time comes."
" But I’d at least kick tires with due diligence when the time comes. while admiring from afar."
"…this thing which tells time."
I’ve heard rumors the Cubs are probably going to sign Cameron :((((
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I’ve heard rumors that my liver is in for a battering this offseason
Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu
take it easy in the offseason
you’ll need all the liver function you can get come April
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
The Giants have scouted the two highest profile arms expected to come over this offseason from Japan, Yomiuri left-hander Hisanori Takahashi and Yakult right-hander Ryota Igarashi, but they aren’t targeting either pitcher yet.
Igarashi is a closer with some arm strength and Takahashi could be a fifth starter/swingman type. If the Giants trade some upper-level pitching for a bat, they could look at Takahashi as someone who could cover some innings.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions
does he need a tutor?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Get rid of future wives?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Baggs latest post
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
NEEDZ MOAR YU DARVISH
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
No, I believe that's Yu Darvish.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
NO YU!
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 8, 2009 8:11 AM PST up reply actions
we could use a fifth starter/swing man type tbh
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Anyone got more info on Takahashi?
Might give us the opportunity to move Wilson for a bat.
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YU DARVISH
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Spotted in the lobby: Orlando Cabrera, looking for a job.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions
Steel cage death match with Renteria. Winner takes next year’s shortstop position.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Does he know anything about money laundering?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
keithlaw: It’s 32 degrees in Indianapolis. What, Nunavut was all booked up?
Man, Keith Law sure does not enjoy himself some Indianapolis.
It's not called Nap Town for nothing
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
I’d still rather be at the winter meetings than here. I’m tired of marching band and finals and being sick.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I was really sore…
Damnit!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
It snowing in CoCo!
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Apparently
There was snow in Alhambra Valley
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
I love this:
Spring stats are usually the best way to tell if a hitter’s ready, but only if there aren’t any tea leaves or star charts around,
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I WISH MORE THINGS WERE HAPPENING
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
no news is good news?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
I don't care about the Giants
just in general. the two big rumors of the day (Burrell and Jackson to Mets) have both been debunked :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I mean
I do care about the Giants, just I want something to happen in general.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Some old dudes got into the Hall of Fame…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
9th umpire in the HoF. That’s a pretty big deal.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Marvin Miller got jobbed, though.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I agree
Tom Seaver said it right:
Tom Seaver, speaking with ESPN, exhibited justifiable anger after hearing of the snub. “I agree with the process, but I don’t agree with the result regarding Marvin. I think we probably have to have a couple more players [on the panel] to have a balance in that meeting,” Seaver said. “That’s the thing I’m going to suggest. This is not about your feeling on Marvin Miller. This is about the history of the game of baseball. It’s a no-brainer for me. I said it in the meeting – he is on a par with Babe Ruth and Jackie Robinson in terms of his impact on the game of baseball. He is right there.”
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
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Me likey: Adrian Gonzalez (with Giants signing to extension) and Kevin Correia
Expect: Sabean to sign a vet for overpay
Getting Gonzalez starts with Bumgarner and ends with Bumgarner, Neal, Crawford, Noonan, and Pucetas. No thanks.
Hm yes
this team trading away tons of prospects for one player always works out well in the end.
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Generally you could say that about any team
The Bartolo Colon trade comes to mind.
Lethargy
It has me
I imagine that Bumgarner, Neal and Crawford have a good chance of being productive players
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this
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Productive = (1 – (Giants Offense + Panda))
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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4:20pm: Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports say the Rays inquired on Halladay, and “might be willing to offer Wade Davis and B.J. Upton.” So far the most surprising rumor of the day.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:26 PM PST reply actions
I want a BJ
Upton on the Giants roster
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
So you’re into the kinky stuff.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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if I could give you a BJ
Upton, I would.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
/falls out of chair
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
you just had to bring up the beaver
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
or a cheetah…
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I recently became acquainted with that term and I still don’t know WTF the point of it is.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re Toronto, don’t you throw in Vernon Wells and agree to pay 99% of the rest of his contract to add in say, one or two more prospects to that deal?
That's an interesting idea.
If you aren’t going to trade him anyway, at least pull a prospect or two.
"…this thing which tells time."
non-news
The Giants really liked teenage Cuban defector Noel Arguelles when he had a private throwing session for their scouts, but they weren’t willing to approach the $7 million deal he got from Kansas City.
Scouting director John Barr told me back in September that the money was "going to get crazy" on Arguelles and fellow defector Jose Iglesias. He was right.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions
I read this as
teenage Cuban dictator…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Go for Ardolis
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Jackson Williams?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
William Jackson?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jackson_%28secretary%29
"…this thing which tells time."
Matt Williams?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
hurrrrumph
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Billy Martin
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Matthew & Gunnar Nelson
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
thread over
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Camper VanLandingham?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
i’d rather move a starter for upton over granderson, cheaper & younger
tampa did delmon young for garza not that long ago, seems there’s a history of those swaps with them
I’m torn on this because I love BJ (who doesn’t!?) Upton but am way more enamored with a Granderson trade but only because Upton’s numbers went way down due to injury and it wasn’t clear if he’d bounce back. But young, under control for a while with tremendous upside is certainly mouth-watering.
I guess...
I like Sanchez though, and creating a hole in the rotation would make his departure more painful.
"…this thing which tells time."
Yeah
I don’t want to lose pitching when we need to add pitching and I think Sanchez is about to break out. If he finds some semblance of control he’s crazy good and he improved a lot last year.
if KC wants Bradley would they be interested in Rowand?
i wouldn’t take Meche back, but they could use a CF if crisp aint their guy
This has not been brought up before!
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand makes more than KC's entire current team payroll
ok that might be a slight exaggeration. But not much.
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Are you suggesting
trading IMPOOPIN for the entire KC roster?
GIT R DUNN BRAIN!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
headlolines
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:30 PM PST reply actions
ehehehe weiner
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
weiner?
the poles have spoken.
Hopefully he’s good at what he does or they may have to pull him themselves.
win
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
yeah. I r 5
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
it's fitting
because he’s replacing a dick
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Weiner-elect
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
/Bocock_joke
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Randy Winn would be a great fit with the Arizona Diamondbacks. He’s got a .987 career OPS at Chase Field.
DON’T DO IT RANDY
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
The Old Couple
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder how the AZSnakepit guys would feel about this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
And they trade him for Eliezer Alfonzo next year.
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Promise more allowance money. He might listen.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
That’d be like Scott Hairston becoming a Giant
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
According to Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com, up to four teams have shown interest in Pirates catcher Ryan Doumit.
Morosi believes the Blue Jays, Mariners and Giants could be among the interested parties, but that’s all speculation. Doumit, 28, hit .250/.299/.414 this season with 10 homers and 38 RBI in 280 at-bats. He is set to earn an affordable $3.55 million in 2010 and $5.1 million in 2011.
and that’s still better than Bengie’s OBP
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
I really only want him if he’s super cheap to acquire.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
He'd have to be virtually free for me.
Once Posey ‘s ready, Doumit’s a less useful version of Garko.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Not really
Uggla: .243/.354/.459
Doumit: .250/.299/.414
Uggla would be a slightly above average 1B. Doumit would be Travis Ishikawa without the defense. That said, Doumit would be cheaper. Still, DNW.
to be fair
Doumit was
A. injured last year
B. had a .268 BABIP (vs .303 career)
C. hit .318/.357/.501 in 2008
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
But even if you think he’ll bounce back to his career averages he wouldn’t be much of an upgrade at 1B, which presumably would be his destination once Posey’s up full time.
I agree with that part, just thought the “projection” was a little extreme.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
DNW
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Because he's not that great of a hitter,
and isn’t he GOD AWFUL on defense?
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Awesome.
Why would we want to pay anyone 5 mil to catch in in 2011? Ultimate Sabean move, I’m surprised a writer actually had the gonads to speculate that.
"…this thing which tells time."
I expect to see a press conference with Sabean and Jermaine Dye, Dye holding up his new San Francisco Jersey…
I’m praying for Nick Johnson
I really really really hope for Uggla preferably giving them Fred Lewis and some other pitching prospect that’s halfway decent.
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
I’m hoping for absolutely nothing. Nothing good can come of these damn winter meetings. Sabean should just lock himself in his hotel room
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Then he came out, got exicted and shot his load on Edgar Renteria
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Dec 7, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
excited
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Dec 7, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
BANNED
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Everyone SHUT UP!
I’m studying for an ECON midterm. Schumpeter, Marx, equal marginalism…
"…this thing which tells time."
Polisci final
I have to write a five page dialogue between world leaders on the topics we covered in the section half of my polisci class on intergovernmental organizations. I basically get to make up dialogue between Hugo Chavez, Vlad Putin, Angela Merkel, etc. about trade, economics, and the environment.
I will not write polislash, sorry.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Did you hear about the hip hop party Putin attended a few weeks ago? He’s down.
And Chavez will be the grumpy neighbor.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
He shot a sneak attacking Tiger with nothing but a dartgun.
21st Century Andrew Jackson.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
getting you started
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
There's a Bill Clinton joke in there somewhere.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Putin: Russian Hip Hop Mogul
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Mike gets it
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
In Russia, party runs you
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
she said no polislash dude
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Putin is insanely awesome
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
wow that sounds tedious
I always hated shit like that which were essentially creative writing assignments.
I’m stoked. I’ll have a blast with it.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
Anything with Angie Merkel in a patent leather domme outfit making Chavez cry?
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opening credits scene, my friend
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Bonus points for writing your dialogue in the style of Ayn Rand, in which everyone speaks in long-winded walls of text that seemingly never end.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer?
Look it up
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
For fuck’s sake, another reply fail on my part. This belongs way down below, no idea how it got up here
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
TWHS
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This might be the first TWSS/TWSS that actually made me laugh out loud
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Marginalism FTW.
Early Marx → when capitalists invest in capital, that leaves less money for labor. Therefore increases in technology make laborers poorer.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
My porf. would not call him a socialist.
Thinks he’s one of the great Laissez-Faire economists.
"…this thing which tells time."
I dunno. I think if you believe that capitalism is destined to crumble, I would call you a socialist. Schumpeter thought exactly that, so . . .
Certainly he’s had a lot of influence on later laissez-faire economists, but he himself fits rather awkwardly into that category.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
My prof. thinks Marx was a free market advocate so…
He’s essentially a taller version of Ron Paul when it comes to the economy.
"…this thing which tells time."
I’d wake up for an 8:00 AM class all the way across campus to hear the explanation of that theory
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
It’s been awhile since I’ve really put myself into this stuff…but I don’t believe that simply believing that capitalism is destined to crumble makes you a socialist. I would say that its more Marxist than anything. Short version, I believe that Marx believed that capitalism was simply a step on the path to socialism, which he believed to be the most ideal system.
It’s been a while, but I don’t believe that you ever catch Marx saying that socialism is optimal, or even preferable to capitalism. Like Shumpeter, he simply thought it was inevitable. That’s why I feel like if Marx was a socialist, so was our Austrian friend.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Shut up, shuttin' up!
Nice to see I’m not the only one procrastinating school work. I’m only taking one class this semester and yet somehow I’ve managed to end up with an oral presentation, an observation report, 25% of a take home final, and a fieldwork placement packet … all due tomorrow.
A nap sounds really good right about now!
haha i feel ya
I’m studying for a Sport Management final. It is so difficult and lame that the winter meetings are during college on quarter systems finals week every year. My GPA would be a point higher if they moved the winter meetings one week farther
"But if he's swinging at real flies, well, in that case there are two definite solutions: 1) Fresno 2) Ritalin." - howtheyscored
Believe me, enjoy it while it lasts. Been out of school a little over two years and holy crap do I miss it.
How come?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
The opportunity to learn about topics that I would never have thought that I would be interested in. i.e. never would’ve taken a marxism class (ever) but ended up taking a history of economic thought class and really enjoying the atmosphere. It was just our professor and eight students and the entirety of the class was about three papers and class consisted almost entirely of debate.
Also, I actually kind of enjoyed writing papers.
Ohhhh, Marx…that’s the fun stuff…I took Marxism and History of Economic Thought classes when I was at school. Good times.
Hate to break it to you
But Richard Marx is horrible
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
you're gonna have to face it
Wait that’s Robert Palmer.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
That's Sabean's song for Nick Johnson
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 7, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Baggs tweets
Sabean says Sandoval will hit cleanup; Giants officially out on Penny.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Hopefully
that means we’re getting a #3 hitter.
Uggla would fit nicely.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Buster would have been preferable
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe I am misunderstanding you here, but you’d ant Buster to hit 3rd?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Jermaine sock puppet already taken!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Or Nick Johnson
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
Really?
NJ’s stats make me super confused as to where I would bat him. He has fantastic OBP as we all know, but not that much power.
Obviously he needs to be near the top of the lineup, but is he a three hitter?
He isn’t exactly speedy, so leadoff isn’t an option, but maybe second?
I’ve never really thought about it.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I’d probably go with second
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
but we don’t have a 3 hitter, so he’d have to hit there.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
I’m totally fine with Freddy Sanchez hitting third, even with his lack of power
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Yeah
So that would make an NJ lineup look something like…
Velez/Torres (shudder)
Nick Johnson
Freddy?
Panda
Posey
Nate?
Rowand?
Rent?
I don’t know, I had a sad while trying to write that.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Posey is only capable of playing no more than 99 games next year…but I’d bat him 2nd.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
i was joking about the 99 games part, but I’d bat him 2nd as he’d likely be one of the leaders in OBP on the team as it is currently assembled.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
eventually, Posey is a 3-hitter, but I’d prefer not to put that much pressure on him to start out.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
no pressure.. .just bat 2nd!
Jeopardy-style alternate response to post: What is “Things that will never happen while Brain and Bork are in charge of rearranging lineup deck chairs?”
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
i’d think there was less pressure batting 2nd than 3rd. The 3rd spot has some mystical “best hitter on the team” aura about it that players buy into.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno, seems like Sanchez would hit into too many double plays in that lineup. Better to put him behind the out machines leading off.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
So you have two guys with low OBP in the first two spots in the order? It’s interesting that the Giants are locked in on Sanchez as a two-hitter, because given his average-at-best OBP and decent slug he really should be batting 5th or 6th.
Middle Infielders must bat second!
Seriously, almost everybody in that lineup sucks, so the only thing I care about is that the guy who gets on base the most hits in front of the best all around hitter.
I think I’d bat Posey second if I thought he was going to play.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I’d probably do Johnson-Posey-Sandoval, but you’re right, it doesn’t much matter as long as the best hitters are all bunched together.
So
Velez/Torres
Johnson
Posey
Sandoval
Sanchez
Rowand
Renteria
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Obviously the blank is our mystery RF guy
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Bowker
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
Not a good team soldier!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
maybe he didn’t want to be a real soldier down in commie land.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
I figure Posey is faster than Johnson, so off that made-up fact I’d bat him in front of Johnson.
Where did Johnson bat with the Nationals?
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Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
2nd actually
but he had Zimm and Dunn behind him
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
Your point is moot. Freddy Sanchez is a #2 hitter, so he will bat second.
If you don’t believe me, ask the Giants Brass.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
F Dot
he has the ability to make outs to the right side of the infield so he must be the 2-hole hitter.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
That spot is reserved for Freddy Sanchez and you know it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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The Giants Way
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
just bat him in front of the Attack Panda, and watch all the fat guys run around the bases.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
/Yakkity Sax
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
what’s the difference in a #3 or #5 hitter to a team that puts absolutely no value in OBP?
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
Do you think this deck chair looks better on the poop deck, or the promenade?
I’d have a much better feeling about this trip if I could just nail down the seating arrangements.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I think with this roster
you have to go with the percentages and say POOP DECK.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 8, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Time to reduce my Alyssa Milano jokes in half
Although I have a feeling Penny will tanked again in St. Louis and be on the waiver wire by next September.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 7, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
upgrade over lindstrom
if the rangers are making a play for lindstrom, wouldn’t wilson be able to get us smoak or an outfield hitting prospect?
Baggs tweets
Garko very “on the bubble” to be tendered a contract, Sabean says. Giants don’t want to pay him a starter’s money to be a bench/platoon guy.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
LOL BARNES
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
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In all fairness to Sabean
Garko did have 115 at-bats to prove that the previous 1,404 weren’t a fluke, and he failed.
and In all fairness
At least he proved that his other midseason trade wasn’t a mistake by using 6 million of what little money that Giants have to sign a guy who does virtually nothing to improve the offense. (or what improvement he does offer is available for much cheaper in the free agent market.)
and this guy got a new 2 year contract to run a major league baseball team? WTF?
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 7, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Bench and platoon guy?
Oh snap Sabean is serious about getting a full time 1B but who?
Nick Penis gets on base a lot and mediocre after that OBP stat, Jermaine Lyve has got some pop left with a useless glove or Dan Goodlookla who swears he won’t play anywhere but second.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 7, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Now, Obi-Brain
your failure is complete.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
He said Kevin Pucetas maintains some value on the trade market, which they take as a positive sign that he’d be a productive option.
Wow! The Giants are only aware of a players’ value due to the interest he garners from the rest of the league???? What a management team!!
that is an awesome quote
Maybe some team wanted Fred, so kept calling last year saying they weren’t interested in him. Brain and Bork bench him, and then the secret team can swoop him up this year.
WERE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
This quote is fucking hilarious
God, are GM is embarrassing
No wonder Sabean takes it up the ass in any transaction he makes. He just lets other GM’s tell him what HIS players are worth
So we’ve heard that Pucetas has some value, Lewis has none, and Schierholtz has little? In other words, Pucetas>Schierholtz>Lewis? Considering Lewis has actually done something and Pucetas hasn’t even been in AAA a full year (and didn’t do all that well anyway) I’m a little confused.
King Felix asking price for an extension – $100m/6 years
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Cheaper than Zeets!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Why of course
The Z-man has got a Cy Young, plays a mean guitar and a part-time model.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 7, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Don't forget "actor"!
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How many years of team control does Seattle have on him? Can they afford to let him walk after that?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
They’ve got him for 2 more years. He’s FA-eligible after the 2011 season.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
that seems pretty reasonable
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That would be 2 Sanchezes with no-no's
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 7, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Sanchi?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
I believe it’s Sanchides.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Neither would the Giants
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Yes!
That was pretty funny when the Ginatz BRaz sent us that email
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
I still don’t understand WTF we’d do with Dan Uggla. Move him to first?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
I see
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Sanchez' bat doesn't play at 3rd
I would try him at short
his knees don’t play at short
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
There's not really any difference between 2B and 3B in terms of a "bat playing" at that position
They’re essentially equal.
"She's kinda got cankles, our kids are gonna have to play soccer." ~ Mrs. "Disco" Hayes
"[Sabean] said Kevin Pucetas maintains some value on the trade market, which they take as a positive sign that he’d be a productive option." Now THAT'S the way to evaluate your players!
by Player To Be Named Later on Dec 8, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
The biggest news points from Giants GM Brian Sabean’s session with the beat writers this afternoon/evening:
-The Giants gave it their best shot on Brad Penny. They’re out and not looking back.
-Pablo Sandoval will be the cleanup hitter, leaving the Giants to find someone who can hit third or fifth.
-A leadoff platoon of Andres Torres/Eugenio Velez is acceptable, unless other options present themselves.
-Ryan Garko is "on the bubble" to be tendered a contract.
-Brandon Medders will be tendered one, though.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
VROOOOOOOOM!!!
Sabean also confirmed that the Giants are comfortable with a leadoff platoon between Eugenio Velez and Andres Torres. That could change, but at least for now, it’s their best way to go.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
NOOOOOOO
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah, it sucks, but considering budget constraints
I’d rather put the money in a 3 hitter and take my chances with the aformentioned platoon of suck.
"…this thing which tells time."
but Lewis...
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Fill in the blank
If Eugenio Velez’s OBP is below _______ on June 15, the Giants will explore other options in the leadoff spot.
If his average is below .240, they’ll explore other options. OBP will not be relevant due to his sparkplugness.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I would like to take this opportunity to formally put in a request for a comic strip with Neukom and Sabean, ala “Sabes & Baer.”
rec’d and soon to be in my sig. Sorry oldjacket.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
There’s always next season.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Haha, thanks scout.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
If we sign Johnson
wouldn’t it make sense for him to lead off. Sorta like Oakland did with Jeremy Giambi?
A leadoff platoon of Andres Torres/Eugenio Velez is acceptable, unless other options present themselves.
LOL WUT? The only way those 2 plays everyday is if they become Siamese twins.
Ryan Garko is “on the bubble” to be tendered a contract.
The Giants need all the hitters they can get.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 7, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
He steered clear from commenting on Nick Johnson and Adrian Beltre – usually a sign the interest is legitimate.
GIT IT DUN ALREADY!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Johnson and Beltre could not happen...
Unless they see Pablo at C. Which would mean Buster is now playing SS, which means Rentarrhea is dead.
"…this thing which tells time."
no, he said today that pablo at C is "too risky"
which is sabespeak for “keeping several options open and maximizing potential”
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
DO WANT NICK!
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
A leadoff platoon of Andres Torres/Eugenio Velez is acceptable to people who have experience building one of baseball’s worst offenses year after year.
Finished that sentence properly.
by Grant on Dec 7, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
/barf
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
Which reminds me of a particularly apt Bible qoute
Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly.-Proverbs 26:11
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
lol yes
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third -or- fifth
what about third and fifth. Not to mention 1st and 2nd.
Giants have 3 6th hitters, and 4 8th hitters.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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All of them Pedro Feliz
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, you know he’s available…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
and we need a catcher…
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by j14 on Dec 7, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
/picture of feliz at catcher
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A combination of poor options and poor management should have the Giants’ fan base expecting a failure to compete. Everybody sit back, relax and enjoy the gore.
Well the gore let me down yesterday
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
so fucking pissed about that game. Goddamint
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can't even spell properly
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
John Bowker’s stay in Venezuela lasted two games (Nov. 15 and 17) because he had "quad issues," according to Sabean. The GM was clear to express his disappointment. This is the sort of thing that could impact Bowker’s chances at an everyday role next season. The Giants historically don’t like players who aren’t "good soldiers," and Bowker wasn’t happy about going to Venezuela.
FURTHER PROOF THAT BOWKER CHEATS THE GAME!
This is the sort of thing that could impact Bowker’s chances at an everyday role next season.
I wonder what it would be like to root for a team that made that kind of decision based on a player’s talent level.
Seriously, that was my first thought upon reading that. “GIANTS FRONT OFFICE TO MAKE DECISION ON PLAYER BASED ON PETTY, MEANINGLESS FACTORS”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
To be fair, they did look the other way when it came to Barry Bonds being petty. Of course, he had to be the best player in the known universe to accomplish this, so… I guess what I’m saying is, John Bowker should be more like Barry Bonds.
Velez would gratefully give his life.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Fraidy cat.
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So Large and Small Sample Size Historical Data
dictates Sabean himself a failure then?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
How the Giants Make Decisions (graphically)
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
A McCovey Chronicles reader making decisions...
Clutching Spreadsheets.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 7, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that’s a word doc and a few folders
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by j14 on Dec 7, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
-Usage of a current event to make light of baseball? Check.
-Said current event depicted graphically? Check.
-Reference to a brain-dead article from a “writer” in the city with the “best fans in baseball”? Check.
-Beating the drum that insists that McCovenites could run the team better than Sabean? Check.
-Graphical representation depicts the correct MS Office document format? Fail.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 7, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
SO close!
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I hear the MS Stormtroopers down the hall. See you on the other side everbody!
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 7, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
A for effort
but the result gets an A- at best.
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by j14 on Dec 7, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks Teach. I’m gonna TP your house tonight. You know that, right?
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 7, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Minus several million for good sense.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The “moot!” square looks suspiciously worn out.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 7, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
I like how
it’s not even a real fortune teller, but an obviously animatronic one.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Might I suggest that they are basing it off of talent level?
After all, everybody knows that you’re only as good as your last three at-bats. Check out Bowker’s line in the Venezuelan league:
.000/.400/.000
Pfff.
It already is.
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Out of all the asinine things out of Sabean’s mouth recently (and there have been a “few”), this is the one that bothered me the most. Sabean holds grudges big-time. Bowker is done.
/auto-defenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 7, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
The folder on players the Giants seem to hold grudges against seems to grow ever larger. File with: Lewis, Frandsen, Posey, Juggernate…
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Maybe that means Lewis is back in?
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
Good Soldier = Aaron Rowand
Rather have a guy play “shitty” for 3 months instead of rest for 15 days and play “less shitty” for 3 months
yeeeeeees
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Kevin Frandsen was kidnapped and that's all that was left?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT
I’M LOOKING FOR NUTS
I NEVER THOUGHT I COULD BE SO FREEEEEEE
by Every6thDay on Dec 7, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Greatest American Hero FTW!!!
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 7, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Referring to Georges answering machine
line would have been where could I be
Are they gonna make New ERAs?
That hat kinda looks like the floppy-ish kind
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Will they make them?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
ok cool
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I sent them an email and they replied to me the next morning. they said that they will have the New Era hats in about 3-4 weeks.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
That is a baaaad hat. I will wait to buy anything until the gamers are available.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
I must’ve missed it… What hat is that?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Is that really their new name? I love it!
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
would it surprise anyone
if Sabean traded Frandsen to Atlanta\* just so that he could play for the Flying Squirrels? And then the Braves call him him up and he his .270/.340/.430
\* Note I am going from memory that Richmond, VA is Atlanta’s AAA Franchise… I cannot be bothered to look this up.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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at least
I’m not totally insane or outdated:
Richmond will be without professional baseball this season for the first time since 1965, the year between the departure of the Richmond Virginians (New York Yankees farm club) and the birth of the Richmond Braves (Atlanta Braves farm club).
The Braves’ move following last season was caused by the lack of a new stadium to replace The Diamond or a firm stadium plan. The Atlanta Braves grew tired of waiting and relocated their Class AAA franchise, which they owned, to Gwinnett County, Ga.
From the Richmond Times-Dispatch, April 2009. So up until this year.
I do have to say it’s kind of funny that THE ONLY WAY my joke could fail so utterly would be if the Richmond Flying Squirrels were a Giants affiliate, which, of course, they are.
Somehow, Sabean demoting Frandsen to AA so he can play for the Flying Squirrels .. doesn’t seem funny at all.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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MLB Channel Alert
New Padres GM Hoyer to appear on MLB Channel in minutes and will be talking about AGon
Giving us the update on the AGon to Red Sox deal
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
he should pull in a pretty hefty haul of prospects.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Buster_ESPN:
The Cardinals and Brad Penny have a letter of agreement, for a $7.5 million base and $1.5 in performances bonuses. Physical likely onWed[Tues].
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 4:32 PM PST reply actions
Yeesh
Thats a damn scary rotation
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Wainwright, Carpenter, Piniero, Penny, Lohse
Lincecum, Cain, Zito, Sanchez , ?
Both pretty damn good
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Who else they have then?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Smoltz
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Hes going to start?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
He started 7 games with STL. But point is moot, I just checked, he’s actually still a FA.
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He started?
shit, I thought he was being used as a reliever.
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=smoltjo01&t=p&year=2009
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Ok
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Not bad
but doesnt impress me all that much
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a nice shiny 9.8 k/9. I think I just read that he is a TJohn guy too. Any work where he’ll start next year? Memphis?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
Atlanta still looks the best 1-5
Vazquez/Lowe (assume one of them gets traded), Jurrjens, Hanson, Hudson, Kawakami
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Yes, that will be a fun team to watch.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s just say that there are some good rotations in the National League.
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April 9-11, 2010: Giants: 5 hits, 2 runs, 6 runners reach 2nd base.
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I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
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That’s way more money than I’d be comfortable spending on Brad Penny.
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Me too. I wonder if that was the base salary the Giants offered:
Former Giant Brad Penny signed a 1 year contract with the Cardinals for $7.5M & $1.5M in incentives, a couple M more than the Giants offer
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To me, that amount of money is absolutely ludicrous.
Last year he got a base salary of $5 mil from the Red Sox, no? He failed, got cut, had 3-4 good starts with us, and ends up with a pay raise?
Oh boy.
Lethargy
It has me
Yeah, and his low K rate with the Giants suggests he sort of got by on smoke and mirrors. I thought the Cardinals were supposed to be one of the smartest teams.
Dave Duncan is a pitching savant!
Yeah, I’m not sure why they’d fork over that much for Penny but I’m glad Sabes walked away from that action.
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HOY, yourself
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Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Mike is a dude.
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Its not Mike, its Mika! A common German girls name!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
lol
I thought for sure no one else would have that reaction.
Hey, this isn’t where I parked my car.
<3 that movie.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
including awesome Matt Damon cameo!
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Scotty doesn't know!
best cameo ever.
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Lucy Lawless has a sweet cameo, too.
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My darling Clementine?
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By far the worst song we learned in 4th grade music class.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I actually consider myself unlucky.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
They cut our program as soon as I left for middle school.
Recorders FTW
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 7, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone know any good bands?
No, not Rush.
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Yes.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
and not the band Yes. I just mean that: Yes, I know some good bands
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
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HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE FLAMING LIPS???
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Oh, and any thoughts on Embryonic?
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I listened to the DVD Audio stereo or whatever version of it and my world was changed. Pretty amazing album, imo.
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Nice. I really like it too. It sounds so much different than I expected. I think it’s awesome that a band that’s been around as long as they have still put out albums that totally surprise me.
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Depends
What do you like?
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Underground Hip-Hop, Alternative, some Raggae. Im open to anything but country and classical.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
How can you not be "open" to classical?
If you don’t think this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQsgE0L450&feature=related
is beautiful you have no soul. Same for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLHU2ES51uw
Underground hip hop? Please. I love Tribe, GangStarr, EricB and Rakim, De La, but this stuff, this Liszt, this Barber, just on a completely different level. Just listen to it. It’s like, unassailable. Please—do your self a favor.
"…this thing which tells time."
It really good
I agree
I just dont particularly enjoy listening to it.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Classical music
is rotten decripit dead music.
And no I don’t believe in souls. I do however, believe in soul, which is exactly (along with some rockingness) what you don’t get when you boil down classical music.
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No souls? How do you describe beauty?
What is beauty without a soul?
"…this thing which tells time."
beauty
is not a property of something.
It is an opinion.
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Bands I would like
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
Agree with both
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Yes
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I already listen to MGMT, Ive heard of the Silversun Pickups, ill check them out.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Does a commonly accepted standard for “good” still exist? Or ever existed?
Although I do also respect Silversun Pickups. Strangely enough, they got a Grammy nod this year … for Best New Artist. weird.
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yeah yeah yeahs, metric, frou frou, rilo kiley
thanks to pandora I’ve discovered them all this past week and they are all awesome.
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I like Rilo Kiley a lot. I’m pretty lukewarm on Frou Frou. I like the other two.
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YYYs are one of my favorites. Metric is pretty good too, I saw them earlier this year and they put on a good show. Worth seeing if you get a chance.
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Dang
they’re just finishing a tour up now. They’re gonna be on the west coast though- yet another reason I wish I lived there :(
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Frou Frou and Imogen Heap are outstanding
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 8, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Josh Hamilton
Julio Borbon could lead off, start in CF says Rangers Mgr Washington
they’ve also been looking to move Michael Young if we need a 3b or SS which is a yes
Hamilton seems to be a 4th outfielder in Texas. He could hit 3rd or 5th for the Gmen. he’s no Randy Winn,. but still
This seems like a reply about Johnson, not Hamilton…
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 7, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
the point being why are we trying to outbid ten teams, among which are the Yankees, the willing to spend Orioles, the already spending Mariners, the in-division DBacks, for a risky 1bman when we could maybe get a guy on the cheap, relatively, who too is on the risky side but a better fit for our lineup. It could be as easy as Brian Wilson straight up, or some MadBum deal if we get some other parts.
he’s cheaper, younger, and better power than granderson if we’re dealing our prospects
Madbum for hamilton would be a fucking disaster
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I'm in this boat
The drug abuse repercussions scare me. I know Johnson is just as injury-prone, but we do have a glut of outfielders I’d like to give a chance, and Hamilton would cost prospects. Plus he’s hitting arbitration this year, which could get expensive.
Are you saying this based on his defense and the injuries from last year? He’s only 28 and had a .385 wOBA in 2008.
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Last year when Young didn't want to move to 3B I wished we were all over him
same thing this year when Yunel Escobar had attitude issues
Granderson vs. Lefties
I like Granderson, but his inability to hit lefties makes Eugenio look solid by comparison. Here are Granderson’s splits vs. left handers:
2009: .183/ .245/ .239/ .484
2008: .259/ .310/ .429/ .739
2007: .160/ .225/ .269/ .494
Career: .210/ .270/ .344/.614
I think it’s pretty safe to say that Granderson is somewhat akin to Corey Patterson albeit one who mashes right-handers. Although i’d prefer a guy who can platoon versus righties over the other side, I can’t see trading Bumgarner for him. To give up a top pitching prospect (after throwing away two others last year), you need a guy who can at least hit decently from one side if he’s an extreme split hitter.
I’d love to see Granderson platoon the outfield at Phone Company Park though. He’d be a daily web gem candidate.
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What I want: sabes to completely lose his mind. Pablo catching, Garko backing up, and as RH bench bat. Rowand traded for a box of matches. Schierholtz and Torres split CF, Lewis and Bowker share left, Schierholtz and Bowker in right, Johnson and DeRosa man the corners. Velez in AAA learning how to not suck at 2B.
What I’ll get: Garko non-tendered, Dye at 1B, Velez in left, Bowker in AAA.
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
I like most of this except DeRosa=massive DNW. Also we could get Bradley for Rowand, and Bradley>>>>>box of matches.
i guess i was doing my own wish list wrong. i thought i was already asking for too much with the giants getting read of gamer mcgamerson, getting surly mcjerkface was pushing it. then i just threw a 3b out there.
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Fangraphs article about DeRosa
WAR Age 07 08 09 2010 Proj.
DeRosa 35 2.6 3.8 1.7 1.9
Polanco 34 5.3 3.1 3.1 2.3
Figgins 32 3.1 2.4 6.1 3.0
My guess is DeRosa signs for somewhere in the neighborhood of 2/$15m, but the Giants are rumored to have a strong interest. Knowing Sabean’s fondness for players past their prime, DeRosa might get his wish.
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DeRosa is not a good hitter. I want no part of him.
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CHULK SIGN WITH PUNY PIRATES
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Vinnie Chulk ruined my childhood
…ok maybe not my childhood-when I was 13 I went to Dodger Stadium Hell and watched the Sunday night game between the Giants and Dodgers. Maddux vs Schmidt. Both threw 9 Inning shutouts. Then Chulk came in and gave up a walkoff to suck it.
reminds of when I went to that dump in LA and Bob Howry blew it in the 9th last year =(
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you know
Bob Howry isn’t really that bad
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no
but he let up a ton of walkoffs last year
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Neither was Chulk.
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The Mets would prefer not to offer Molina a two-year deal, but they haven't ruled such a deal out
HAHA, I’d heard this for months from our end
love those RBIs
For those who think Wilson could fetch a lot in trade...
apparently Jose Valverde is accepting arb, which would lead one to assume that he hasn’t gotten many offers. I’m not sure the market is that great for closers (though the Padres are shopping Heath Bell, so we’ll see what he gets.)
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I think Valverde is accepting arb because he stands to make at least the $8M he got last year, and the FA market is oversaturated with closers. Wilson probably won’t make more than $4M in his first year of arbitration, which makes him a cost-effective option, and therefore valuable. There are a lot of teams who need relievers (Rays, Cubs, O’s, D’Backs, Phils?, Jays, Tigers), but the FA and other trade options (Bobby Jenks, Francisco Cordero, Matt Capps) are making/want too much money.
Apparently Matt Lindstrom is getting interest from at least ten teams, and he, like Wilson, is a first-time arb-eligible closer. But Wilson’s a heck of a lot better than Lindstrom is and he has a lot more experience closing. If ten teams are in on Lindstrom, at least ten teams would be much more interested in Wilson.
Nope
Valverde is declining arb, which pretty clearly indicates to me there’s a market for closers, and therefore Wilson’s pretty valuable.
I sure hope his velocity comes back
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Outfielder Jermaine Dye, whose agent, Bob Bry, is expected to meet with the Giants here in the next day or two
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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SHIT THAT'S FUCK
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 7, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
I'm still hoping
That Neuk and Sabean have just been completely coy about everything and are going to pull off a Holliday signing.
/wishful thinking
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when is Sabean going to pull the trigger:
a) Rowand for Bradley
b) Parts for Navarro and Upton
c) Lewis for Uggla
None of these happen
a) Almost kind of remotely makes sense, but not really because Bradley is so much better than Rowand.
b) “Parts” don’t get you Navarro and Upton.
c) Sure, Lewis is cheap, and better than a lot of people think, but the Marlins KNOW they can get way more than that. It’s not even close.
…or did I just fall into the chasm?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I sincerely doubt that the Marlins can get much more than Lewis for Uggla. If they’re holding out for a big package, they’re going to wind up keeping him. He’s an $8M second baseman. That’s probably right around his free-market value. Why should anyone pay anything more than his contract?
Dingers. OBP. Relative youth.
Three of the highest-valued treasures a hitter can have. You can argue that a Lewis for Uggla trade makes sense on paper, and I might be able to be convinced by a statistical argument, but a) perception can be everything, and Lewis is not perceived as a great player, and b) the Marlins undoubtedly want prospects, including pitchers.
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I am too chapped for this
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No I wasn’t able to go. We worked it last year, only because it was free and they wanted our big rig in there to take up space for lack of spots sold. We had some informants go on Friday, before the general public was allowed to go in. Harley has a couple new mid-year bikes coming out which seem pretty cool.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously though, Nick Johnson?
Haven’t we had enough tubs o’ goo with seriously worrisome power declines? Dude just SLG’d .405 in 133 games. Why do we want that? Yes, not making outs is good. But scheduling in 1,234 Double Plays is BAD.
Nick Johnson is fat and sucks. Except at walking. Maybe if he did more running he wouldn’t be so fat and sucky.
This is an extremely foolish comment
Dude has better on-base skills than the great majority of all major leaguers, and that skill is generally regarded as the most important hitting skill to possess. And it’s not like he has no power. I would love to have him on the team.
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Perhaps I posted too quick
Fat tubs of goo and/or players with worrisome power declines.
Goo: Bengie, Walker, Armando
Power decline: Winn, Alou, Finley, Durham
Both: Klesko
To rephrase: Nick Johnson is fat and has no power.
what
these make no sense. Durham slugged .450 the year before we signed him and .445 as a Giant (career: .436)
Alou slugged .557 the year before we signed him and .541 as a Giant (career: .516)
Winn was slugging .391 at the time he was acquired, but slugged .437 the year before that and slugged .432 overall in the black and orange (career: .418)
how the hell did any of those three have worrisome power declines? especially Alou and Durham?
Steve Finley sucks though.
And I don’t really see how Nick Johnson is fat. at least, not comparable to Bengie, Walker and Armando. Klesko wasn’t very fat when we had him either.
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I mean
That’s not Eugenio Velez, but it doesn’t really look Bengie-level fat to me.
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Agreed. His main picture on Yahoo, on the other hand:
Full-body shot bias? Either way, I’d welcome this whole “walk” thing he does.
Now, HE looks like a thumb, more than that CSNBayArea guy.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Injury prone or poor conditioning habits?
Just sayin’
At first I thought he was a guy who ran into bad luck. Breaking his cheek, running into someone and breaking his femur. But after watching some of his games last year, I believe he’s just a dude with poor conditioning and a bad body.
Now this Camp Panda...
I remember seeing Garko there…we may see some never before seen speed out of garko next year, folks!
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he looks
quite possibly like he might, perhaps
have a bucket that I can has
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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I agree that you posted too quickly
Twice so far…
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
juan rivera anyone?
rivera for some combination of merkin, pucetas and flew?
Uribe to Thompson to Clark: Don't tinker ever with chance
Tony Reagins would laugh and hang up
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Hmmm
The D’Backs pushed for a blockbuster three-way deal with the Yankees and Tigers today, only to see one of those two teams veto it, according to Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The deal would have sent Curtis Granderson to the Yanks and Edwin Jackson to the D’Backs.
I wonder who the Tigers would have gotten back here…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
tweet tweet
From Ken Rosenthal
Yankees-Tigers-DBacks three-way at impasse. Yankees would get Granderson, DBacks EJax, Tigers Scherzer with young players to all three teams
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Tigers would have to get a hell of a lot more than just Scherzer…….
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I mean I know he said "young players to all three"
but…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
The deal would send Curtis Granderson to the Yanks and Edwin Jackson to the D’Backs. The Tigers would obtain Max Scherzer from the D’Backs and Austin Jackson, Phil Coke and Michael Dunn from the Yanks.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Huh. Isn’t Austin Jackson one of the prospects Toronto is asking for Halladay?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Yanks get granderson then they don’t need Jackson. I think Halladay might even be too rich for the Yanks right now
Getting more complicated...
The deal would send Curtis Granderson to the Yanks, along with a prospect or two from the D’Backs. Arizona would obtain Edwin Jackson from the Tigers and Ian Kennedy from the Yankees. The Tigers would obtain Max Scherzer from the D’Backs and Austin Jackson, Phil Coke and Michael Dunn from the Yanks.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I can see why the D-backs are pushing for the deal.
NYY
Lose AJackson, Coke, Dunn —> get Granderson + AZ prospect(s)
AZ
Lose Scherzer, prospect(s) —> get EJackson, Kennedy
DET
Lose Granderson, EJackson —> get Scherzer, AJackson, Coke, Dunn
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
argh
can’t, not can
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
makes zero sense for dbacks
scherzer is better than jackson or kennedy. this must not be true.
RAAAAGE!!!!
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
?!??!!?!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Not sure if it’s been said yet, but there’s this:
Per Baggs
It hasn’t been announced yet, but Steve Decker will be promoted to manage Triple-A Fresno and Andy Skeels to move up to Double-A Richmond. The Giants might be more loaded with major league managerial prospects than anyone else.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions
So, who goes to San Jose? Dave Machemer? or someone from the outside?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Nikolai becomes BLB’s pitching coach, heck, the kid can throw objects through walls!
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
except that he missed her… (likely to his father’s chagrin)
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 7, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Can’t teach velocity…
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
BAM BAM DISAGREES WITH YOU!
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Can we trade Bochy?
Heck, just fire him.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
Garrett Atkins
The Rockies could non-tender the fella. Could come cheap and could comeback. Can play 3b and 1b.
Stick him at 1st then
I’ve said this before, the Rockies are letting him go in favor of Bobby Crosby. That’s more than a slap in the face, it’s more like nailing his significant other on Atkins’ birthday and then slap him in the face afterward with the used condom.
He’s had around 25 hrs each year for 3 seasons prior to 2009 and I am certain he wants to stick it to the Rox 18 times a year, SF will allow him to do that. He will basically be a FA so no prospects will be involved and he likely won’t ask for a huge contract considering his 2009 stats.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 7, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Damn
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Yeeeeee i agree
do not want D:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7145/splits;_ylt=Av8L0OGY1uNFUckyHOZQy8CFCLcF?year=2008&type=Batting
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 8, 2009 3:14 AM PST up reply actions
that was his good year too
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 8, 2009 3:17 AM PST up reply actions
Bad defense is bad. But i guess last year wasn’t that bad(3B). There is not much data of him at 1B (career UZR/150 of -6.3 in 105 games)
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
No.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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only at Coors =/
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 8, 2009 3:15 AM PST up reply actions
TWO YEARS?
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yikes! He’ll be 39 year old by the time he leaves.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
$6 per or $6 total ($3 per year)?
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6 bucks for 2 years seems like a good deal.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
So help me here. Do the Nats lose a pick, or do the Rangers just get a supp pick?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
whew… that would have taken the Nats stupidity into the colossal realm.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 7, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Huzzah!
It’s Olivo Time! …oh crap
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 8, 2009 3:16 AM PST up reply actions
So Beltre turned down arb…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
So why didn't we offer Penny arbitration?
Free draft pick…sigh
My guess, and this is only speculation mind you, is that is why he wasn’t offered arbitration.
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 7, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
THATS CRAZY KRAB TALK
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The Giants didn’t add him to the 25 man roster until August 1st, so he wasn’t eligible for compensation. IIRC, he was on the very cusp of being a type B when the Giants signed him (I don’t know if he ever got there), but they elected to wait until the day after he signed to put him on the roster.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I traded for Granderson in my dynasty league
but only have him for 1 cost-controlled year.
That seemed on-topic in for this discussion that I didn’t read.
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Sigh
What sane Giants fans want: Johnson, Cameron, getting rid of Aaron Rowand
What we’ll get: Jermaine Dye and Rod Barajas, both on 2 year deals. Count on it.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I say
Olivo
cuz he reminds Sabean of Molina
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 8, 2009 3:24 AM PST up reply actions
Afficabetical order
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4723007
"…this thing which tells time."
Really think it’s gonna be Ingram, especially with the way he destroyed Florida. But I would be ok with Gerhart taking it as well.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
>:(
No!
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Gerhart! Gerhart!
Best!
ya!
woo….
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Oh Ruh Roh!
But here’s the thing. I get my decision from Stanford back in a couple of weeks, and I also applied to 5 UCs. I don’t know where I’m gonna end up- maybe by the time this decision is made I’ll have been rejected by Stanford and be planning to go to Berkeley.
We’ll see…
Lethargy
It has me
Welcome to UC Riverside!
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Nope
I’m guaranteed admission to UC Davis (some top 4% of your class thing that the UCs do). Whee!
Lethargy
It has me
I sometimes feel like I should've applied to Davis
But undergrad was fine for me, so it’s ok.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I didn’t get into Stanford. My dismal maths SAT scores doomed me. I’m at San Jose State instead and really happy. I interviewed for a communications internship with the Sharks this morning and they loved me. I think I might get the jorb. Could I do that at Stanford? Probably not.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 8, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
JORB!!!
Employed within a rolling plastic ball like a hamster!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
on ice!
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 8, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I’m applying to Stanford right now. I feel so dirty.
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THE BIG RED S OPENS DOORS…
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
also, compared to the UCs these days, Stanford tuition almost looks like a discount
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 8, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
no kidding
When I applied, they had just received a huge endowment (TWSS) and announced that all families making under $100,000 annually would qualify for tuition funding via the school. If I had been accepted, I would have gone for free.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 8, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I was mindblown for a moment when I found out the Stanford mascot is actually the color cardinal.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
They stole the idea from the Harvard Crimson.
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roll tide!
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Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 5:48 AM PST up reply actions
I have a buddy that works for the Sharks in a marketing position. He really enjoys it.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
My GPA was 4.23, I took ten AP tests (all 4’s and 5’s), and my SAT was a 2190 (700 on math and English, 790 on writing). I’ve got some legacy (my uncle went to grad school there and my grandfather was involved with the medical school). I didn’t get in, and I get the feeling it wasn’t close; one of my friends, who was class president, probably had like a 4.5 GPA, did tons of community service and other stuff, and was in pretty much every advanced class, didn’t get in either. He did get into USC’s baccalaureate MD program, so apparently he was good enough for USC’s medical school as a freshman but not good enough for Stanford at all. Good luck, you’ll need it. College admissions are a crapshoot.
Should be Suh, will be Ingram. Gerhart is pretty damn good, too, but Suh is beast.
No, I do not like Nebraska. In fact, I root against the ’Skers at every opportunity. Suh is beast.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Gerhart should win
but Ingram will b/c his last performance is fresher in voters’ minds (Other than Suh, but he won’t win.)
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 7, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
Holy hell
that guy must be a total beast of a DT. I don’t remember a defensive lineman getting to the finals in a long time.
GO GERHART
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espn’s had him going first overall basically all year. he’s raw.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
so is he the new warren sapp?
A DT who can pressure the QB. Wonder if he’ll fall like crabtree did :D :D :D
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yeah, I guess that's true
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Steve Emtman from Washington finished fourth in 1991.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
You might be right.
Wiki says he finished fourth, so that likely means he was invited unless he finished ahead of one of the invited.
Just looked up heisman voting 1991, found this…
The last five players from "non-skilled’’ positions to finish in the top four in Heisman voting: Steve Emtman, DT, Washington (1991), finished fourth to Desmond Howard, Michigan; Brian Bosworth, LB, Oklahoma (1986), finished fourth to Vinny Testaverde, Miami; Hugh Green, DE, Pittsburgh (1980), finished second to George Rogers, South Carolina; John Hicks, OT, Ohio State (1973), finished second to John Cappelletti, Penn State; Rich Glover, NT, Nebraska (1972), finished third to Johnny Rodgers, Nebraska.
Emtman in 91 and Rich Glover (Neb.) 72
"…this thing which tells time."
I'm fine with either RB.
Sick of the QB from the dominant program surrounded by NFL talent and bloated statistics.
"…this thing which tells time."
There is only one RB…
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
pfft, and I even mentioned him earlier.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Ingrams a beast, Gerhart has more TDs and rushing yards…. wonder if they’ll take into account the conferences they’re in, with Ingram in the SEC
Pac 10 was at least as good as the SEC this year, top to bottom. The SEC had two good teams, and Ingram played for one of them, so he didn’t have to face them. I guess you could make the argument that the defenses were better in the SEC, but that was surely helped by some rather inept offense (even the third best team in the conference, LSU, had a horrific offense).
this
man, the SEC is so overrated. The defenses are fast, but jesus christ their offense is awful. Even Florida’s offense is that “great”, they just have such an awesome line and such talented position players that they make it work. Seriously, they just run the spread option.
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but i’ll tell you what, the one thing i want to do while i’m out here in Ohio is go to an SEC game. I would have to say the same thing about Stanfords O-line, they are absolute beasts for opening up holes for Gerhart, i’m pullin for him for the heisman, but in my opinion it should be either Ingram or Gerhart
shift-A
Have we traded the farm for some injured old guy yet?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 6:24 AM PST reply actions
Not yet! Fingers crossed though…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
Fresh vegetables are delicious!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
The Rays and White Sox discussed a Carlos Quentin-Carl Crawford trade, says Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times. Manager Ozzie Guillen implies that nothing is cooking on that front though. The two clubs also discussed closer Bobby Jenks, but the Rays did not like the asking price.
Not sure what to think of that
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I’m normally a fan of the idea of trading Wilson, but Crawford will be a free agent after next season. I wouldn’t trade Wilson for one year of Crawford at $10M.
It doesn’t have to be for Crawford. The Rays have a ton of talent.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Crawford had more WAR last year alone than BWheez has for his career.
And Wilson is arb eligible anyway after next year.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Wilson’s already arb-eligible, I’m pretty sure; I seem to recall that people were expecting him to get around $4M this season. I’m not sure that WAR would give you a fair idea of whether one year of Crawford is worth Wilson. Even though I think closers are overrated, it’s still my opinion that WAR does not value closers properly because it doesn’t take into account the game situation in which they pitch.
I look at it like this: suppose you have, on the one hand, Mariano Rivera, and on the other hand a replacement-level pitcher. If they each pitch in ten one-run save situations, Rivera (with a ~2.75 FIP) will blow about 3 of them. The replacement guy (with a 5.5 FIP) will blow 6. If you figure the team loses half the time when the save is blown, that’s a 1.5 win difference in only 10 IP! This surely overstates the case, but I think makes the point that pitching the first inning is less valuable than pitching in the 9th inning with a one-run lead, and WAR ignores that.
Is there any evaluation system that uses “win probability” or something to account for this sort of thing?
10:39am: Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star tweets that the Royals will “look at” Jose Molina as a possible starting option.
At least we had the middle Molina
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Dayton Moore is worse than Brian Sabean.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
To answer this thread's title question
YES. New thread please!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Can Uggla really play 3B?
I don’t follow going after Uggla after signing F. Sanchez. It just seems if they wanted Uggla they should have passed on siging F. Sanchez. Plus, I read something that suggested they are viewing Uggla as possible 3B and insurance at 2B if F. Sanchez is hurt. Why would we need insurance on someone we just signed for 2 years. With all the 2B options, how does the F. Sanchez signing look now?
No way they were letting Sanchez go
they couldn’t trade 2 of their top 10 prospects and then not re-sign either player they got in return. They would look even stupider than they already do.
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The Sanchez signing looks good at the moment, he’s got a better contract than Polanco and Figgins and similar to Scutaro (who required a draft pick) It doesn’t make a huge amount of sense to sign Sanchez and trade for Uggla though but sometimes the Giants will do everything they can to avoid signing a competent 1B.
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I can’t believe this Yankees-Tigers-Diamondbacks three-way is still on the table.
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What happens in Indianapolis stays in…
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
That deal seems insane to me too
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I don’t get why the Tigers or Diamondbacks want to do it.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
the Tigers I somewhat understand but the D-Backs are idiots
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Pretty much. What do they get out of it?
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Tigers makes a lot of sense. They cut payroll and got a lot of young talent in return in Scherzer, Jackson and Schelereth. Coke is a decent throw in too.
What this person said...
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
expect an answer within 40 minutes
The Yankees are on the clock!
If they get Granderson, that makes Damon even more available. Craaaaaap. Stay away from him, Sabes.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Olney's saying it's close to being completed
are the Yankees really going to get Granderson while only giving up Jackson and crap????
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Apparently some Yankee fans don’t like the idea.
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2009/12/7/1189746/johnny-damon-is-another-yankees#comments
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
lol yankee fans a fucking morons
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morans
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Well, they’re Yankee fans. What do they know?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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HEEZ NOT A BEEG NAAME
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There’s GOTTA be a pitcher in the mix. If they’re just giving up two players, maybe they’re trading Hughes and not Kennedy?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Seems to be a very good deal for the Yankess. No idea why Arizona is getting involved though.
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He should be.
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Can Josh Byrnes please not make the Yankees and Tigers better
This is an absolutely absurd trade.
Clearance price on pitchforks over at the Snakepit!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
So the Dbacks are only getting Ejax and Kennedy?
Jesus christ.
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Done deal, tweets Heyman D:
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
fuck me
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I am OK with a team within our division making themselves worse.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t want to hate Granderson
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
LOL DBACKS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Dec 8, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A+ for the Yankees, who continue to show that they know what they’re doing. Not a bad deal for Detroit, who needed to save some cash. But man, I’m sorry for D’Backs fans, who just saw their team screw up.
That’s Dave Camerons thoughts, LOL indeed!
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Seriously, that is a terrible deal
they gave up a pitcher who was better than the one they got in return
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Heyman is happy.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Heyman is a douche
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A happy douche, with bird lips and squintty eyes and a nose that is way to narrow
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Bird lips?
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It’s ridiculous. Austin Jackson and Max Scherzer maybe are in the ball-park of fair. Maybe. On a bright, shiny summer day. Not on a day when we got 10 inches of snow.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
To reiterate: the Yankees get Curtis Granderson, the D’Backs get Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy, and the Tigers get Max Scherzer, Daniel Schlereth, Austin Jackson, and Phil Coke.
Sherman notes that the Yankees managed to pull off the Granderson acquisition without giving up Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, or Mike Dunn.
Yep, someone got robbed.
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lolwut
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well
at least our division got weaker and it’ll be hard for Sabean to do worse than this. Though I’m sure he’ll try.
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Holy shit. I didn’t realize how badly AZ got burned until now.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 8, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
It's awful
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you mean byrned?
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by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you mean byrned?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 8, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I actually visited AZ Snakepit to see their reaction to losing Scherzer. Disappointingly measured response over there. Is McC the only place where self-throwing-down-stairs is widespread?
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holy shit the Backs gave up a hell of a lot
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 8, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I think we are selling Kennedy short.
MILB resume is “off the hizzy” as the youngsters say. 9 bad starts in 08. Otherwise fantastic resume.
"…this thing which tells time."
fringy stuff though
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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He fell a lot when he was drafted because his stuff wasn’t that good. His professional career to date does little to dispute that.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I just don’t get it, I really just dont understand. SHERZER IS BETTER THAN JACKSON!!!!!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Byrnes is an exceptionally overrated GM
Although, that may no longer be true.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
This, I think
It’s going to hurt more, and for longer. I think Dave Cameron put it best:
They didn’t get better, they didn’t save money, and they didn’t get younger.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Two for one sounds like a good deal!
D’backs get two for one in blockbuster trade
If Arizona can somehow find a first baseman and reliever with the money they have, Diamondbacks fans should have a lot more fun watching this team next season despite the departure of Mad Max.
F. the Lewis.
Travis Ishikawa and Brandon Medders
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Ah, Bleacher Report
I’m pretty sure it’s penned by the commentors at MLB Trade Rumors.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Kennedy could be outstanding in this division. His minor league numbers are better than Mad Bum's
"…this thing which tells time."
Basically he had 9 horrendous starts for the Yankees
in what is the toughest environment in baseball to pitch in.Otherwise his resume is basically flawless.
"…this thing which tells time."
He’s a RHP that sits under 90. Very few of those are successful in MLB.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Schierholtz in 2007 > Jackson now.
He had a 900+ OPS season at AAA at 23. Jackson is 22 and hasn’t done anything close to that. I’ve never seen his defense, but he must be insane with the glove if Schierholtz has “almost no” trade value and Jackson is one of the key pieces to landing Granderson. Makes me sick that the Yankees have an underpaid player they did not develop internally.
"…this thing which tells time."
Jackson is decent but not great in CF. I don’t get the big deal about him at all, other than Yankee hype. He doesn’t seem to have any plus tools and he has, like, no power.
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Nate's 2007 DESTROY's Jacksons 2009.
Not even comparable really. But here’s a comp anyway.
Nate 2007: 333/365/530, 18HR, 17BB, 58SO, 10SB
Jackson 2009: 300/354/405, 9, 4HR, 40BB, 123SO, 24SB
Nate has like, zero walks, but he strikes out a lot less as well.
"…this thing which tells time."
So basically the Yankees gave up
a younger VROOOMier NS, and a couple of middle relievers which this org is deep in.
"…this thing which tells time."
HE COULD’VE PLAYED POINT GUARD AT GEORGIA TECH!!!!!!!
I really feel like his great athleticism is a huge part of the hype, even though he’s about to be penciled in as an opening day starter after never putting up elite numbers in the minors.
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Ouch! But glad it happened to a division team
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
FOR JOBA!
keep the Cy Young in SF amirite?
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So
I know everyone’s only REAL concern is how this affects my fantasy team. I have Ejax and Granderson, so Granderson’s value goes way up and Ejax’s value goes way down. Damn.
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I came here specifically to ask about this
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by DrStankus on Dec 8, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Glad to accomodate
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BNightengale
#mlb The SF Giants are talking to the Padres about 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff, but SD wants more than OF Fred Lewis and IF Kevin Frandsen
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My God. Fred and Franny have trade value?!?!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Yep
Apparently they can almost (but not quite!) bring back a terrible player.
well
he’s not terrible. He’s an average-ish hitter. And good defensive rep.
Is he better than Fred?
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Don't forget
He’s an average-ish hitter with 18 HR’s in the biggest pitcher’s park in the league. I think it’s safe to assume he would benefit from AT&T.
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I guess it depends on how much you think Petco deflates his numbers, but he’s had a .312 and .316 wOBA the last two years. He’s average by OPS+, which is park adjusted, but that overrates SLG relative to OPS. He seems to be average or a little better with the glove.
All in all, I’d say he’s probably about equal to Fred — worse with the bat, but plays a little tougher position on the field.
FWIW
Kouz’s WAR for last year was 2.7 while Lewis’s was 0.9 (although Fred’s playing time was limited).
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Lewis>Timmy or Lewis>Bonds? Somehow, I think one of these must be wrong, and therefore I question your assertion.
Sarcasm
He’s been continually harping on a supposedly unnecessarily large “pro-Lewis bias” that the McCoven have.
Lethargy
It has me
Also gender stereotypes.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
I think Kouz is definitely a better player than Lewis, but not by a whole lot. Lewis was worth 2.3 WAR in 2008.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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JPORN SEZ SOMEONE IS BETTAR THAN FRED OMGOMGOMG
It’s not that hard to be better than fred though! HEYO
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very interesting
I would not mind having kouz. Especially if those are the terms. Good fielder, OK hitter in a pitcher’s park.
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uh
why would they think they could get more than that for him?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Heartbeat. Done.
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Yeah I wouldn't even think twice
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why would another team want our bad soldiers?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
cleanup hitter
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Great. Now everyone here can freak out about a trade that won’t end up happening.
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Crap, I knew we forgot to tell someone.
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I hate to break it to ya, Brian…..
by DrJ Funk Master Deluxe 3000 on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Stop waiting and get off your hands, Sabes!
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Melky Cabrera
The Giants can finally get him…
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM PST reply actions
I support this.
Unfortunately, the Yankees would rightly ask for Matt Cain and Madison Bumgarner and get both because it’s Sabean.
THE MELKMAN
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Baggs -
Giants will now inquire after Damon (Damon, Sanchez, Johnson, Sandoval at the top of the lineup?)
Nothing new on Uggla
Payroll could be increased if there are compelling moves
CY voting goes to five names instead of three
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
DNW DNW DNW DNW DAMON
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I can’t get that exercised about Damon. Yes, I think he would be a poor signing. But on the other hand, he’s not Jermaine Dye. I feel this is a very strong point in his favor.
He at least is a solid OBP player.
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Tablesetter!
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No sense in setting tables if there is no one there to eat.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
That seems silly – we shouldn’t try to improve OBP at the top of the lineup because the rest of the lineup isn’t good? The rest of the lineup will look better with a guy who gets on base a lot in front of them.
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/shrug
I just really wanted to make a table setter joke.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 8, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I figured
I have seen comments though that seem to be along the lines of, “IF THIS ONE PLAYER WON’T SINGLEHANDEDLY IMPROVE THE WHOLE OFFENSE, WHY WOULD WE WANT HIM?”
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damon, johnson, posey, sandoval
wow that’s actually sort of a ML run of guys there
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Hes’s definately preferable to Dye in that he’s a good player who will be overpaid rather than an awful player who will be overpaid. Also if the Yankees are out on Damon (and i don’t think they are necessarily) then perhaps he wouldn’t be as overpaid. Still don’t want him but there is at least something to hold on to.
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You're right
Damon is a plus fielder and a decent hitter with a good OBP. His power would certainly suffer, but we would actually have a real leadoff hitter.
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Hm
From what I remember, the Yankees were talking about Abreu money, which is a little less than 10. I don’t think there’s any reason to think Damon would get more than 2/18, which might not be the worst thing.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Exactly
This is what it’s come to: we just hope to avoid “the worst thing.”
I almost made a Tiger Woods joke, but I’m just tired of hearing about him. Fuck it.
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Sure
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heh
Ok, I’ll rephrase.
Johnny Damon at 2/18 would be good for this team.
I said it.
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he would be good too
but that doesn’t mean damon wouldn’t be
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Why if we are now interested in Damon
did we show zero interest in Figgins? Damon’s insincere power numbers?
"…this thing which tells time."
to be fair
figgins is/was much more expensive than damon will be, i’m sure.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I'd be willing to bet 15$
That Damon’s contract will not be worth more than 36 million dollars.
And I’d give you 3-1.
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no problemo
I’m wrong way too often to get on anyone else’s case about it
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
But doesn't 2/18 to Damon
start to smell a lot like 3/18 to Roberts? Not as bad, but it could get close IMO.
"…this thing which tells time."
Alright I already hate Johnny Damon.
See what you have done to me Brian Sabean.
"…this thing which tells time."
Nah
because damon has been a good player in his career. Roberts was never even 75% of the player Damon is.
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The reports say that Figgins is probably $9/year (4 year/$36 mil)… Damon made $13 mil/year over the past four years. I think a $4 mil pay cut is probably the worst case scenario for him, meaning, at worst, he’ll cost AS MUCH as Figgins.
Okay, my fault…
I thought Figgins was 9 mil per for 3. And in that case, being a younger player, I’d MUCH, MUCH, MUCH prefer 3/27 to 2/18. 4/36 is a different story but is still a bit of a head scratcher.
"…this thing which tells time."
Why would we want Damon?
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 8, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Shift+A
Long Damon discussion is long!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Do the Giants need a 3b?
Really? Thought they had Sandoval to play 3b. I know the system only has Rohlinger, Gillaspie, Dominguez and Biery as 3b however if they move Sandoval over to 1b what do they do with Pill, Villalona and possibly Dominguez and Joseph?
Why don’t they keep Sandoval at 3b (if they do not want him to catch) and go find a stop gap 1b until one of the kids arrive?
I wouldnt’ mind it if he came at the expensive of a Lewis/Frandsen type package. Anything more than that and DNW
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that said
the utter lack of on-base skills still makes it pretty DNW
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Does he have numchuck skills?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 8, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
Except according to Baggs, the Pads don’t want LOL FRED :(
I’ve just confirmed a tweet from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale that the Giants and Padres had discussions about a trade for San Diego third baseman Kevin Kouzmanoff in which infielder Kevin Frandsen would head south.
But the Padres have little interest in Fred Lewis, who was rumored to be part of discussions. San Diego already has a glut of left-handed hitting outfielders. They’re searching for pitching instead.
Could Frandsen and someone like Kevin Pucetas be enough to make a deal for Kouzmanoff, who’s due a raise in arbitration?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
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Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that the Pirates are discussing a trade that would send Ryan Doumit to the Blue Jays.
While the teams are negotiating, Kovacevic writes that Mariners and Giants are also in the mix for the 28-year-old backstop. According to the report, the Mets, Rangers and Marlins are no longer pursuing Doumit at this time.
ESPN announces Peter Gammons leaving after winter meetings
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:08 PM PST reply actions
is he retiring?
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“pursuing other endeavors”
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
or sex scandal…ha ha.
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EWWWWW
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Focusing on his music career?
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http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2009/12/gammons-ends-hall-of-fame-run-with-espn/
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
always a chance
that’s how they roll at ESPN
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 8, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Chris Haft is obviously a lock for his replacement.
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MLB Network pls
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 8, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I don't understand Sabean's reported talks regarding Kouzmanoff.
Why?
Isn’t he a Pedro Feliz clone? I guess he’s younger.
"…this thing which tells time."
Haha
C.J. Wilson tweets : “borderline offended by az offer” (arizona offered Texas chris snyder for him) “dude him 200!”
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
lol
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Bork on MLB network right now. Talking about our “young players” and how to handle them as my blood boils.
just a sambple of carbon-based wastage
Apparently, the most impressive thing about Timmy is his “ability to pitch.” And here I thought it was his ability to dress up for Halloween as Raggedy Andy while his girlfriend goes as Chewbacca.
just a sambple of carbon-based wastage
Maybe I’m crazy but I see Kouz as a useful player w/ his defense and pop despite a complete and utter lack of on base skills. As long as its nothing useful to give up I guess I wouldnt mind him. Fuck the suspense is killing me, I just wanna know what the Giants will do this offseason, I’m starting to think the bad moves arent so bad because there are worse moves possible
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
i like the fact that kouz still has room to grow and improve, and he is cheap.
i dont get why so many are clamoring for beltre…ops below 700 in a walk year, getting older, hit into 19 double plays… are the beltre lovers hoping for a career renaissance? i know he is still only 30, but are the expectations that last year was a fluke and he will return to some form of 800+ ops with pop? thats a pretty big if, in my mind, to get all excited over. especially for anywhere near 10 mill per. anyone have more specific insight into their preference for beltre?
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
The Beltre lovers (of whom I am not one) are expecting the combination of not being injured and leaving Safeco Field to bring Beltre back into the .750 OPS range, which would make him nearly equal to Garko offensively. Sandoval at first would probably be equal to Garko defensively, maybe even a couple of runs better, while Beltre would probably be 15 runs or so better than Sandoval at 3B. So the net improvement should be about 1.5 wins or so, depending on how well Beltre hits.
It’s not crazy. If he gets $10M per year, it’s probably too much; $5M would be a bargain. I expect he’ll get close to the $10M.
not a good recommendation
nearly equal to Garko offensively
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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