Giants could make trade with the Marlins
by jv52yankees on Dec 6, 2009 2:14 PM PST
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Why couldnt the Giants just make a trade with the Marlins who are trying to cut payroll? I was thinking they should try and get Dan Uggla and Cody Ross. Uggla hit 31 Hr and 90 rbis. Cody Ross hit 270. with 24 HR and 90 rbi. They both have relatively small salaries and the Giants wouldnt have to give up a TON for them. But i dont know exactly what the Marlins would want. What would u give up for Uggla and Ross? The lineup would be this:
3b Sanchez
Rf Ross
1b Sandoval
2b Uggla
C Posey
Lf Velez
Cf Rowand
SS Renteria
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What do the Marlins and Tiger have in common?
They both like good young cheap talent.
Marlins would like some young pitching and would need a young OF to replace Ross. Schierholtz/Bowker/Lewis.
by wilriv21 on Dec 6, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If (And Thus Far A Big If) The Price Is Right
I like the idea of targeting both Uggla and Ross. i do believe the Marlins desire to avoid having to pay either their likely arbitration award. Both players have two years of arbitration left and therefore would not be rentals but are still pretty close to free agency. The problem of course has been that the Marlins have been asking for too much for just Uggla with names like J.Sanchez and Bumgarner being floated.
My view is that a fair price for Uggla would be one of the left handed hitting outfielders on the 40 man roster and a non 40 man roster pitching prospect (knowing Wheeler and the rest of last year’s draft class can not be traded yet). For Ross I think a fair price would be on of our pre arbitration infielders on the 40 Man Roster (obviously excluding Sandoval) and another non 40 man roster pitching prospect.
by giantsrainman on Dec 6, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think Lewis fits that LHH OF perfectly. The Marlins are looking for an outfielder, and if they’re also trading us Ross they definitely need one in return. Lewis is a solid player who’s clearly going nowhere in SF. Lewis+pitcher for Uggla makes a lot of sense to me.
by quincy0191 on Dec 6, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bocock + PTBNL for Ross!
you heard it here first!
by Fresburg on Dec 6, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who would we trade? In one of the recent Baggs’ articles, he said that FLA would want Madison… That won’t happen. Sabean, is also on record saying that we will not be parting with out untouchables, unless it is worth our while. Won’t Uggla not be under team control after the 2010 season?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2009 2:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Trade Lewis
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by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uggla is a FA after 2011. And I can’t imagine the Marlins seriously expect someone to give up a top prospect for Uggla when it’s obvious he’s going to make $8M+ in arbitration and they need to cut payroll. I imagine they’d be lucky to get a B prospect.
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Anyone else find Cody Ross’ name a little too close to Cody Ransom? Do not want!
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by Scottsdale on Dec 6, 2009 3:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by Merope on Dec 6, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by natteringnabob on Dec 6, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell is Dan Uggla?
The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!
by boonitez on Dec 6, 2009 5:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by wilriv21 on Dec 6, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly giving up prospects for Cody Ross makes me mad…this guy could have been had for free years ago. I think we should wait until the Marlins tender contracts/ go through salary arbitration with these guys before we even start talking about a deal. Their prospect demands will go down significantly once they are sitting on actual money as opposed to right now where they are just predicting how much they will be sitting on.
by Scronjsn on Dec 6, 2009 5:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t heard that the Marlins are looking to deal Ross, but just because the guy was available for free a few years ago, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to get him now that he’s proven to be a good ballplayer. Carlos Pena was once bouncing around on the waiver wire too, and he would be a pretty nice player to have. Should the Mets have not signed Johan Santana to a big deal because he was once available in the Rule V draft?
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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2009 5:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lewis for uggla is enough
Uggla is arbitration eligible and will have a fairly high salary, and lewis does not have a high salary. They both are good players obviously uggla with power. Fish need cheap. Hold out, and do not give what Boston gave them in hanley ramirez.
by bradleybear on Dec 6, 2009 5:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lewis would not be enough for Uggla
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by groug on Dec 6, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
4 Years Of Lewis (2 Cheap) For 2 Expensive Years Of Uggla Is In Fact Pretty Damm Even
by giantsrainman on Dec 6, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dollars Matter
Lewis or not this is in reality an example of all the return the Marlins will be getting. Uggla do to his dollar cost is just not worth more and the Marlins will not be finding anyone to give them more.
by giantsrainman on Dec 6, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are again acting like the Marlins have no options other than to trade him to the Giants. While the Giants are the team with the most obvious need, if the price was only a fair prospect or a Freddie Lewis, other teams would immediately get involved. Even teams that don’t need a second baseman would want a player like this and they would find another position for him. As for the Giants’ point of view, he’s worth more to them than anyone else, so they need to step up to the plate. I wouldn’t give them Mad Bum or even Jonathan Sanchez, but they’re going to have to do better than Freddie Lewis. If this deal happens, I have a feeling that the prospect involved (Neal? Kieschnick? Crawford?) is going to start a McCovey frenzy that will make trading Alderson look like a no brainer.
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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2009 6:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean
There haven’t been any rumors I can remember connecting Uggla with anyone but the Giants.
That doesn’t mean anything necessarily, of course, but it might be telling.
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by GiantPain on Dec 7, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember reading on MLBTR
That the O’s had kicked the tires but ended up not being interested.
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by GiantPain on Dec 7, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
looks like they are kicking the tires again
Thing A
by sam23 on Dec 8, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and two other teams. One tire for each kicker
by m34josh on Dec 8, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unnamed Teams Are Frequently Imaginary Teams
Agents and GMs have these rumors spread to try and make the truely interested teams think they have more competition then they actually do.
by giantsrainman on Dec 8, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis would not be the best offer any major league team makes for Dan Uggla.
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by groug on Dec 6, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but it’d be close. I don’t think a lot of teams will be in on him because of payroll limitations and those that do won’t have our farm system.
by quincy0191 on Dec 6, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we offer them garbage, a big market team like the Mets, Yankees or Red Sox, who don’t even need him are going to quickly get interested. The Mets have been looking to move Luis Castillo to make room for Orlando Hudson the last two offseasons, but if the Marlins drop Uggla in their lap for nothing, they would be very interested.
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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2009 6:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
theyll also have to pay Uggla at last twice as much as they could sign Orlando Hudson for, I’m not sure they’d love that idea.
Thing A
by sam23 on Dec 7, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Asked an exec from another club to assess the trade value of the Giants’ three pre-arbitration lefty-hitting outfielders:
Fred Lewis?
"None."
Nate Schierholtz?
"Not much. Pretty much none."
John Bowker?
"Some."
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by groug on Dec 7, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Fred Lewis’ loyal followers on this site seemed to have upgraded his imaginary value much higher than his real value.
by m34josh on Dec 7, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Lewisphiles think Fred’s trade value is very high.
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by Natto on Dec 7, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they wonder why he is not starting -- in the ASG
by wilriv21 on Dec 7, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You say that like it’s not a legit question…
by Missing Barry on Dec 7, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we are all morons.
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by oldjacket on Dec 7, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they wonder why he is not starting —in the ASGover Eugenio Velez
FYP
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by groug on Dec 7, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By himself, you're right, he wouldn't be the best offer.
But what if the Giants added Pucetas and Noonan to that deal?
And before you scream about adding Noonan, it’s not clear he’s going to make the major leagues at this point. Adding Uggla and then reworking a longer-term deal locks in a power bat for either 2B or LF for three guys who may never figure into the Giants’ long term plans.
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by Al Rosen on Dec 6, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was responding to:
lewis for uggla is enough
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by groug on Dec 6, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis is looking like he doesn’t fit with the Giants more out of Brian/Bruce stupidity than need, but Noonan may very well fit with the club. We haven’t had a solid solution at second since sKent (sorry, but that was too much alliteration to let it die). Besides, it’s a bit too early to say that Noonan isn’t going anywhere; he was drafted in 2007. Pucetas was just jumped from A+ to AAA and posted decent numbers; he may be a back-end starter by 2011. Lewis, Noonan and Pucetas seem way too much to give up when the Marlins are unloading Uggla to save money (which means they can’t demand as much as normal).
by quincy0191 on Dec 6, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your unwillingness to move too much for Uggla,
but other teams are already talking with the Fish about Uggla and purportedly dangling more than a LF who can’t field. Pucetas didn’t exactly impress at AAA towards the end of the season, and Noonan has holes in his game.
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by Al Rosen on Dec 6, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Al Rosen makes more sense here than he did in all his time as the Giants’ GM. I’ll be happy to give them Noonan and Pucetas for Uggla. I’m afraid it’s going to cost more than that.
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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2009 6:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it costs more than that (or even that much) then whats the point? We could probably get a Nick Johnson or Beltre for the same amount of money we’d have to pay Uggla and they won’t even cost a draft pick. Basically, would you trade Nick Johnson+Noonan+Pucetas for Uggla? I sure wouldn’t.
Thing A
by sam23 on Dec 7, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beltre and Johnson are Type B free agents and would not cost the Giants a pick
by wilriv21 on Dec 7, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We could probably get a Nick Johnson or Beltre for the same amount of money we’d have to pay Uggla and they won’t even cost a draft pick.
Thing A
by sam23 on Dec 7, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Link
Other then the Orioles no other team has been linked to Uggla. The rumors say the Orioles have lost interest. Now I could see The Red Sox jumping in if (and only if) they lose out on both Matt Holliday and Jason Bay. Other then that, their just does not seem to be any other team with both the need and dollars available that has expressed any interest.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s not clear any prospect is going to make the major leagues at this point
by sfoakbay on Dec 7, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, you have no idea what the Marlins think is fair. They’ve asked for Bumgarner for Uggla, so there seems to be a huge difference between your conjecture and reality.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Dec 7, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone suppose the marlins would be interested in Joe Martinez as part of the deal? He’s a major league ready #4 or 5 guy, it seems. Cheap pitching is what the Marlins supposedly need.
by fantastical on Dec 7, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Asking, Liking, and Taking Are Three Different Things
What they ask for does not matter. What matters is what they are willing to take when they reach that stage.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This
There is no way the Marlins seriously expect us to trade Bumgarner for Uggla. That wouldn’t be a fair trade even if Uggla was making league minimum. They’re just opening with a high bid, so when they are forced to lower it they don’t get nothing. If they won’t budge from Bumgarner for Uggla, there’s no way Sabean makes that trade.
by quincy0191 on Dec 7, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis, Frandsen, Bocock, Burriss, and ummmm …. a Velez.
by Merope on Dec 6, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hill: “Drop the Velez and we have a deal”
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by scout6 on Dec 6, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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by wilriv21 on Dec 6, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“The answer is….”
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by Lyle on Dec 7, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought this guy was leaving forever because we didn’t like his last fanpost and the Giants didn’t have enough money
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by jponry on Dec 6, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So If He Won't Join The Group Think He Should Just Leave?
I really don’t think this is what you mean but it is the meaning that I am getting from what you wrote.
by giantsrainman on Dec 6, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/11/15/1158517/quick-thoughts#25668365
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by oldjacket on Dec 6, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I was just curious
after his last fanpost.
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by jponry on Dec 6, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no i just never came back for awhile
I had an idea that I wanted to share so I shared it. My idea last time was unrealistic because of the giants payroll. This idea umproves the offense and is very do able
by jv52yankees on Dec 6, 2009 9:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
“Reply”
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 6, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would trade for Uggla and move him to left. Who cares if he doesn’t want to play it, he’s under contract for two more years. I would then sign Nick Johnson. Then all you need is a cheap catcher, although I would have saved the money on that and start Posey from day one next year. I also think they need another starter, but I would think someone will fall through the cracks and come cheaply late in the off season.
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by rxmeister on Dec 7, 2009 6:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I could see Uggla being an awful, awful fielder in LF…
by Missing Barry on Dec 7, 2009 7:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t seem very athletic to me. I just see him as having very limited range, overall. Of course, I will say my impression of him is he doesn’t handle GB’s very well, so maybe a shift to the OF will help in that regard…
I went and looked up the Fans Scouting Report to see what people think of him – according to the last 3 years that I looked at, it seems the fans think his individual skills are pretty even(ly bad) across the board. He gets pretty similar marks in everything. Fangraphs UZR has his range as being pretty poor, though it seems to have a lot of noise, so I’m not confident I see a “true talent level” there.
by Missing Barry on Dec 7, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis, Frandsen, Nate, Pucetas, & Guzman, maybe?
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 7, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Guys like Frandsen/Nate don’t really add any value to the trade from the Marlins side. Guys of that quality aren’t too difficult to find on the waiver wire, plus they have to be given a 40-man roster spot, and if the Marlins want to find out if they can actually provide value, they have to take the risk that they’ll give PT to someone who doesn’t provide any value…
by Missing Barry on Dec 7, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t see how Uggla improves the offense more than Johnson or Delgado, who would cost similar monies and zero talent.
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by oldjacket on Dec 7, 2009 1:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But Johnson is injury prone, and they are both older
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The injury risk is worth MadBum or Thomas Neal? Or even Nick Noonan?
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by oldjacket on Dec 7, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Noonan Yes
The others no, but he is not going to cost that much anyway. The Marlins will find no trade partners if they hold to such an unreasonable price.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I started out the offseason thinking that, but now I’ve come to believe that even Nick Noonan is not worth the 30 or 40 extra games we are probably talking about.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Dec 7, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What Do You Mean By "30 or 40 extra games"?
I have no idea what your point is here.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if the big difference between Uggla over Johnson and Delgado is injury risk, we’re probably talking less than half the season’s worth of games played.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Dec 8, 2009 5:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Then We Value The Games Differently
I think it would be foolish to expect more then 400 PAs from Johnson while we should be able to count on at least 600 from Uggla. At their skill levels this 200+ PA 45+ game difference is worth a Win and is a big deal to me.
by giantsrainman on Dec 8, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How many PA’s would you expect from Delgado?
We just traded who for who?!
by BawLa on Dec 8, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it would not get Uggla if that is the cost.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 7, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
I would not want Uggla if that was the cost.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would probably take him for that.
I doubt Noonan will ever be that good.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 8, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t, and given that Uggla would likely force Pablo to first, there’s no reason IMO to put Uggla ahead of Johnson on the wish list (the RH power bat plays better at AT&T but Johnson would probably equal his production for less overall cost). But Johnson is getting interest (MLBTR has said at least seven teams after him) and it’s good to have a backup plan in case he gets too expensive.
by quincy0191 on Dec 7, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uggla Can Be Counted On For 600+ PAs
We would be foolish to count on Johnson for more the 400 let alone 500 or 600.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Foolish to count on Johnson for 500 or 600, but there’s more upside with a Johnson signing and the same risk. If they both cost around the same in salary, which I find likely, then Uggla for money+prospects vs. Johnson for money has about the same cost/reward ratio if Uggla gives us 600 PAs and Johnson gives us 400 PAs. If they have about the same production over those PAs, and Uggla was worth 2.9 WAR vs. Johnson’s 2.4 WAR last year, Uggla’s extra 200 are probably worth a middling prospect. BUT, if Johnson plays a full season of 600 PAs, or even gives us 500 instead of 400, then we’ve gotten similar production from Johnson for less cost.
Also, given that Johnson right now is about as valuable as Uggla by virtue of his BA/OBP vs. Uggla’s power, if Johnson magically regains his power stroke (unlikely, but he did hit 23 home runs as recently as 2006), then Johnson is more valuable in 400 PAs than Uggla is in 600 PAs. Uggla, meanwhile, has a career BB% of 10.9%, and strikes out a ton (26.1% career), making him unlikely to have a decent OBP, especially given his typically low average.
So I see more or less Uggla=Johnson in terms of cost vs. reward, but Johnson has a much larger upside, so he’s a better target in my opinion.
by quincy0191 on Dec 8, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/baseball/story/1369155.html
“Uggla is the big-ticket item the Marlins have been dangling, and a number of teams are said to be interested in the power-hitting infielder. The Marlins reportedly have asked the Giants for their top pitching prospect, left-hander Madison Bumgarner, in any deal for Uggla.”
If Uggla’s batting average were only, say, 1/3 higher, this wouldn’t be laughable.
by Stoned Slacker on Dec 7, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ronny Paulino
I think he’d be a great mentor catcher to take the reins in the meantime.
Uggla and Cantu are the other guys who intrigue me.
But who knows the asking price for these guys.
by coicoy on Dec 7, 2009 9:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Costs Way To Much
You do not take on a two year $9.15M commitment for a backup catcher.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I Got Doumit And Paulino Confused
It is Dourmit that comes with the 2 year $9.15M price tag. Paulino is just first year arbitration eligable and therefore might be a decent option if the trade price is right.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By The Way, He Was a Giant For A Day Last Year.
We traded Jack Taschner to Philly for him and then the next day we traded him to Florida for a pitching prospect.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who was that again? I remember a name like Corea (or something like that?)
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, it was Hector Correa, I guess I should have looked before I asked. Was he injured last year? He doesn’t have any stats for 2009 on BB-Ref.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 7, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shoulder AND elbow injuries!
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by oldjacket on Dec 8, 2009 5:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Was he released or do they have plans to have him throw this year?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 8, 2009 5:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he was released, but I don’t know what his current medical status is.
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by oldjacket on Dec 8, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
youre getting way too hung up on the title “backup catcher.” Posey seems very unlikely to be the starting catcher to open the season so technically you’re getting a starting catcher right now anyway. After that he’d be more utility man than backup catcher
Thing A
by sam23 on Dec 8, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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