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why is matt cain giving up more run despite having fewer hits and walks than he did this year?

and ugh @ MadBum having Bad Zito stats

"My friend once told me a story about San Francisco Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum. He said his cousin went out to a bar in San Francisco and saw Lincecum there. He went up to him to give him a handshake.

Lincecum refused. He didn’t want to give him a handshake. He wanted to give him a chest bump."

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 5, 2009 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

I would have to assume because it is projecting that is stranded runner rate will regress

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

How cute! It has Pereira on it.

Nick Pereira 27 16 16 0 0 82 92 44 60 13 4 56 52 5.71 -3

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2009 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

Houston Astros pitcher Ryan Sadowski is also on there.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Dec 5, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

as are Scott Barnes and Jesse English. They really didn’t update the rosters.

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.

by j14 on Dec 5, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad Pat Misch still pitches for us.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

And Yabu.

Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants.

by neurofarm on Dec 5, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL Broshuis and his 6.11 ERA

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 5, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I remember when people thought he could be good

That was 2006.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 5, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Chone thinks Hinshaw>Runzler

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Dec 5, 2009 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

Chone would be wrong.

Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo.

by Lyle on Dec 5, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t he signing with Seattle?

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 5, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Valdez > Runzler, as well.

by imovermyhead on Dec 5, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I cant really see this happening

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Dec 5, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants’ 1-4 starters have a combined R over Rep that’s projected 8th overall. This is just based on current rosters (i.e. no FAs like Lackey, Wolf or Pettitte):

CWS – 148
NYY – 141
PHI – 139
ATL – 136
KC – 134
ARI – 131
BOS – 130
SFG – 129
COL – 120
TOR – 118

Timmy and CC (57) are tied for 3rd best RoR behind Halladay and Greinke (60)

CC + AJ + Halladay + Pettitte = 183 (aaarggghhhh!)

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

Also by RoR, the top 1-2 combos:

Lincecum/Cain (SFG) – 93
Sabathia/Burnett (NYY) – 89
Greinke/Meche (KC) – 88
Lester/Beckett (BOS) – 85
Lee/Hamels (PHI) – 85

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

And to round it off, the top 1-3’s:

Sabathia/Burnett/Chamberlain (NYY) – 116
Lee/Hamels/Blanton (PHI) – 115
Lincecum/Cain/Sanchez (SFG) – 114
Buehrle/Peavy/Danks (CHW) – 113
Vazquez/Jurrjens/Hanson (ATL) – 111

Obligatory LOLZito

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Vazquez/Jurrjens (ATL) – 83
Halladay/Romero (TOR) – 81
Haren/Webb (ARI) – 80

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 6, 2009 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Chone Figgins should stick to playing baseball and stop trying to project stats lol

by 49erEmpire on Dec 5, 2009 1:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I don’t get it.

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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 5, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

These seem, how should we say, crap, eh?

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 5, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

How so?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Dec 5, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Why?

They look real good to me.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 5, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Just noticed that defense projections have been added.

Catchers:
Posey -1
Holm -6
Whiteside -9

Infield
Ishikawa +4
Bocock +4
Burriss +1
Garko -2
Sanchez -4
Frandsen -6
Rohlinger +9
Sandoval -6
Renteria -5

Outfield
Velez +6
Torres +6
Lewis +3
Bowker +3
Schierholtz +3
Rowand -7

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions  

Does that have Bowker in LF?

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Dec 5, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

OF but not CF

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL FRED

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 5, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

THE PROBLEM

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 5, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Solution: play Rohlinger every game.

Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo.

by Lyle on Dec 5, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

:(

Antoan Richardson +14
(and also a great guy)

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 5, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Srsly??

Burriss +1, Sanchez -4

You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.

by SeeingStars on Dec 5, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this position-specific, or just general for all position players?

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

all position players. Technically its for all position players for which I had salary data, but details . . .

I don’t currently have enough sample to really do a meaningful age comparison by position. Maybe after I’m done doing my salary project, I’ll come back to it .

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Dec 6, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL Rowand

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Dec 5, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

posey

BEST DEFENSIVE CATCHER

Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa

by raisingcain on Dec 5, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh.

I was always under the impression that Whiteside was actually quite good defensively. I watched most of his games last year… what did I miss? He threw guys out, picked them off, was quick on his feet…

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Dec 6, 2009 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Velez at +6?
/mindblown

Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.

by Speedforthewin on Dec 6, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, +4!

We need more Boco….. nope. Can’t even sarcastically finish that sentence.

Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club

by jwizzle241 on Dec 6, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Pucetas Time!

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 5, 2009 6:42 PM PST reply actions  

Sadowski is now an astro and justin miller is a dodger

Anyway these kinds of projections, although maybe useful for evaluating players in fantasy leagues, are totally speculative, and are about as useful to the real world as a blown-up crystal meth. lab.

by bradleybear on Dec 5, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

mmmm… explosions

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 6, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Serviceable 5th Starter, WOO!

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by Speedforthewin on Dec 6, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

so no one is pitching 200 innings

and cain and sanchez have pretty much the same K/BB and H/9

by kingofthacove on Dec 6, 2009 2:24 AM PST reply actions  

and apparently Sanchez is never going to make it to 190-210 innings

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by Speedforthewin on Dec 6, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

pitchers have high rates of attrition.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 6, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

that’s why the IP totals are low.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 6, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I almost never take any form of playing time projections seriously.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Dec 6, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Most of the people who do them (Szymborski at least, I’m pretty sure Sean Smith as well) usually say, “DON’T READ TOO MUCH INTO THE PLAYING TIME PROJECTION”.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 6, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Steve Palalozzo

When I saw him on here, it reminded me that Keith Law thinks Palalozzo is one of the only good targets for teams in the rule 5 draft this year.

Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.

by Speedforthewin on Dec 6, 2009 8:48 AM PST reply actions  

I have also read the McBryde might be appetizing for teams as well.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Makes sense.

Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.

by Speedforthewin on Dec 6, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

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