2014: The year we realize how Edgar Renteria won a championship for the Giants
by Grant on Dec 4, 2009 11:06 AM PST
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Every single free agent rumor leads to the same mental dead end. I'll entertain the thought of a player like Dan Uggla, Orlando Hudson, or Nick Johnson, and I'll cycle through the new, rosterbatory nonsense in my head. "Wow, they almost would have a legitimate hitter at every position! Sandoval, Sanchez, Rumor du Jour, and...Renteria." Enthusiasm over. Every time. It's like planning out the Olympic relay team for the 4x100 and having to work in Tyler Walker.
To be fair to Renteria, the Giants offense is doing just fine if he's the only bad patch in the lineup. If the acreage of terrible is reduced to a patch by March, everyone will be pleased with the offseason. And, hey, it isn't that crazy to think that a 34-year-old hitter can rebound a little, even if he looked liked he was swinging underwater last year.
But, yeah. The easiest way to help the offense would be to send Renteria on the Dave Roberts Express and find someone who can hit a little, even if that might not be the most realistic solution. Yet every time I cycle through infield options, there's Renteria, sitting on the couch, minding his own business, and eating my chips. It's not like he makes up for the impotent bat with Neifilliant range, either. Our shortstop has the range of a piranha plant.
It's pretty clear that while the idea behind the Renteria signing was sound -- pounce on a non-Bocock early to make sure the Giants don't go into the season without one -- the signing was kind of a dud. Still, I have hope that it will all work out. There were other options last year, but did you notice the seasons they had? Rafael Furcal was a little better, but he wasn't an extra year, a draft pick, and $21M (!) better. Orlando Cabrera can still play defense, and he rebounded a little for the Twins, but he was still pretty bad at the plate, and he cost the A's a second-round draft pick (that they eventually made up for by trading him). One of the reasons that the Giants went after Renteria so hard is that he wouldn't cost a draft pick. I can't grumble about that, even if that's left the Giants in a bad spot this offseason.
So a part of me is hoping that Renteria rebounds, and we realize that the deal wasn't a total and colossal failure while Renteria is still playing. That'd be nice. A much larger part of me knows that isn't likely. So my hopes for the Renteria contract lie with second-round pick Tommy Joseph, who is the pick that was saved by not signing a Type-A.
The count is full. Two outs and the tying run on first. Mariano Rivera, who's like 65 or some crap, needs one strike to win yet another World Series. Joseph stands at the plate. Rivera throws.It's a long drive, I do believe...the Giants won the World Series! The Giants won the World Series! The Giants won the World Series! The Giants won the World Series! Tommy Joseph hits into the lower deck of the left-field stands! The Giants win the World Series and they're goin' crazy, they're goin' crazy! HEEEERRRRFFFOOAH! I don't believe it! I don't believe it!
And while the rest of you are jumping up and down like idiots, I'll calmly pump my fist and say, "Thank you, Edgar Renteria. You've delivered a championship because you weren't Orlando Cabrera or Rafael Furcal."
Maybe not. But that dream keeps me from drinking when thinking about next year's lineup*. Mainly, I'm just hoping that the Giants have average-or-better hitters in seven lineup spots when the offseason is done, which isn't totally insane, and I'm hoping that Renteria is a little better. Just a little. I'm not asking for much. Except for the Joseph walkoff Series win, but we deserve that.
*Note: this isn't true
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This is the time of the year when a baseball fan is optimistic. The winter meetings is about to start, and we’re going to improve our team by leaps and bounds. When I think of Edgar Renteria, all I remember is that grand slam off of the Rockies, and maybe a grand slam off of Jake Peavy. Why do you people choose to dwell on the other 160 games?
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
This is the time of the year when a baseball football fan is optimistic.
We’re coming for you England.
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USA v England in World Cup. We’re going to dominate like its 1776.
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We’re going to get help from France and Prussia?
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33 vs. 11
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
We can’t team up with England? Maybe with France and Australia against Germany, Italy, and Japan?
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The Battle of New Orleans in 1814 is about a big a butt kicking England has ever experienced on the battlefield, and way more decisive than anything in the Revolutionary War.
Battle of New Orleans: 1814 Giants win the World Series: 2014
General leading US forces: Andrew Jackson Backup catcher for WS Giants team: Jackson Williams
Louisiana Purchase Cost USA $12M Edgar Renteria, player responsible for Giants WS, cost around $12M
And I’m sure pandas were/ will be involved in both engagements…
by biff pocoroba on Dec 4, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
Andrew Jackson, all I’m askin’
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 4, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but he was our homicidal psychopath.
How did he get on a bill, anyway?
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Also because at the time that decision was made, Indians weren’t really considered people yet.
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by Johnny Disaster on Dec 4, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
2 dollar bills are pretty rare
But Thomas Jefferson is fairly famous for being a slave owner.
The baseball Satanist
Yes, but politically he was pretty clearly an abolitionist. If we chose who to put on bills based on their personal life, we’d just end up with a bunch of blank sheets of paper.
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I’m pretty sure if you only put presidents with blemishless tenures on bills, we’d have a bunch of blank sheets of paper.
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Washington and Jefferson were slaveowners.
Just saying, indulging in the bigotry of the times has never disqualified one from patriotic recognition.
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Important, yes, but I think he’s definitely a more controversial figure than Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, and Hamilton.
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Grant (the president, not the blog-guy) being on the fifty dollar bill has always been interesting to me
Grant’s presidency has nothing really to distinguish it, unless you count all of the corruption.
This leads me to believe that it was Grant, the general and not Grant, the president that is on the fifty dollar bill.
The baseball Satanist
That’s not what I’m talking about. I didn’t say that Jackson did or didn’t do enough to be on a bill, just that I would think that his opinions on race would be enough to prevent him from appearing on it.
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Well, actually you didn’t say that. You just asked a question.
I was just making a comment in the vein of the conversation.
I am wondering as to your criteria, though. Is it per the general public’s viewpoint? Or is it simply historical fact as to the presidents’ opinions on various world issues? Or is it their opinions on race?
The baseball Satanist
I don’t really understand what you’re asking. Are you asking how I would choose them? Because I don’t see how that’s relevant.
All I tried to say, and I think it’s a pretty uncontroversial statement, is that I’m surprised that, given Jackson’s opinions on race, and considering people’s sensitivity to those matters, I am surprised that he was put on a bill, and that he stayed on it for so long.
As a side note, I looked it up, and apparently nobody knows who decided to replace Cleveland with Jackson on the $20 bill. It happened in 1928, but there are no official records that mention the reason for it.
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Well, since it was your question about who is and is not on paper money bills that started this whole conversation, I figured that your criteria for getting on a bill was relevant.
I see now that you are focusing on how people view Andrew Jackson. I am glad that we have clarified just what we are talking about.
As to how Jackson got onto the 20 dollar bill and stayed there…
The trails of tears might be a fairly famous event (though I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of Americans don’t know about it), but very few people actually know that it was Andrew Jackson who was president as all of those Indians (some of which fought were allies of Jackson in the past) were forced off of their lands.
As to his opinions on race. Again, most do not know about his opinions on race.
As for those who should know this stuff and are responsible for his appearance on the twenty, they likely view it this way: he’s one of the most important presidents in the country’s history and his opinions on race were not out of line with the way the majority of the country thought at the time. Remember that this was a time when slavery was legal and being supported by the government of the United States. How is it a poor mark against him that he was in favor of a lawful institution? Please do not judge him based on current worldviews.
I am certainly not completely behind Jackson as a person or as a president, but he was clearly an incredibly important figure in our country’s history.
The baseball Satanist
I think I need to make clear that I’m not talking about Jackson the person, and I’m not trying to judge him as a person. I don’t even really care about Jackson the person.
his opinions on race were not out of line with the way the majority of the country thought at the time. Remember that this was a time when slavery was legal and being supported by the government of the United States. How is it a poor mark against him that he was in favor of a lawful institution?
He was elected president, so obviously his opinions were not out of line with the way the majority of the country thought at the time. And he was head of government, so obviously his opinions were supported by the government.
For a president to start a war, he needs the Congress’s approval, which means the people’s approval. If we follow this logic, if a president starts a war, even an unnecessary and immoral war, it can never be a poor mark against him, because the country and government supported it, and because it was legal.
The major decisions any president makes are, or are supposed to be, supported by the people, and obviously they’re all meant to be legal. If we decide that we can’t judge presidents for these kinds of decisions, we won’t have anything to judge them by. The logic seems to me a bit circular – anything that the government does is supported by the government. If anything that’s supported by the government can’t be used to judge the head of the government, than anything the president does can’t be used to judge him.
Now, about context – you say that we shouldn’t judge Jackson based on current world views, which is obviously correct. We should judge him in his context. Here’s some context:
By Jackson’s time, the western world had rejected slavery. France, England, Scotland, Portugal, Prussia, the Netherlands, Spain, both Canadas, and all of the northern states had all abolished slavery at least 10 years before Jackson was elected (as did many other, less “major” countries in Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, South and Central America and the Caribbeans). You can’t talk about context without mentioning this.
You ask me not to judge him based on current world views, which I obviously shouldn’t. But his support of slavery is a clear poor mark against him, even when judged in context.
Now, back to the original discussion, I’m still not saying that this poor mark should have been enough to keep him off the bill. I don’t think I even have an opinion on that. I’m just surprised that it wasn’t.
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But his support of slavery is a clear poor mark against him, even when judged in context.
Then it is a poor mark against our entire country. I don’t see what the point is of singling out one man, even if he was the president. If we want to bring even more context in to this discussion, then it is prudent that Jackson wasn’t just an American in the early 19th century, but he was also a southerner. His southern heritage, I feel, is far more important than what the rest of the world was doing.
You say it isn’t about him as a person. Yet, if we are judging him based upon his opinions of race, that feels exactly like what we are doing.
The major decisions any president makes are, or are supposed to be, supported by the people, and obviously they’re all meant to be legal. If we decide that we can’t judge presidents for these kinds of decisions, we won’t have anything to judge them by.
Except, it’s not as if Andrew Jackson created slavery. This wasn’t a decision that Andrew Jackson made.
Your war example is an interesting one. Was the Vietnam War a poor mark against JFK? Lyndon Johnson? Neither of them started the Vietnam War. As far as public opinion goes, neither of them get much flack for it, despite the fact that they both obviously supported the war. Should they get any flack for the Vietnam War?
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Lyndon Johnson gets plenty of flack for Vietnam.
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At the time, he did
I don’t hear many people talking about him with regards to Vietnam now. Maybe I’m not listening to the right people, though.
The baseball Satanist
Let’s say someone opposes the war in Iraq. He thinks it’s immoral and unjust. That person wouldn’t think it’s a poor mark against Bush? Because congress and the government supported it?
What if someone strongly opposes Obama’s health care plan. Thinks it’s ruining America. The bill passes in congress. Will that person no longer hold the bill against Obama? Shouldn’t he?
But, OK, you say the Jackson didn’t start slavery, he merely supported it. So tomorrow Obama announces to the world that he supports what’s happening in Guantanamo. He didn’t start it, he just supports it, and plans to do absolutely nothing to stop it. Those who oppose what happens in the camp, they wouldn’t hold it against him? Human rights activists in and out of the US, the EU, Amnesty International, etc. – they wouldn’t judge Obama based on it? They wouldn’t think it’s a poor mark against him? They wouldn’t “single out” this one man, who happens to be the president of the USA, who supports what they find to be immoral and illegal?
(And are you really saying that LBJ doesn’t get any flak for the Vietnam War?)
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There's a difference between a realtively new policy and a cultural institution
From the POV of an early 19th century southerner, and abolitionist arguing against slavery is compairable to a vegan arguing with a seasoned carnivore like me or (I presume) you.
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I think a better example would be if future generations considered using personal automobiles with internal combustion engines as barbaric and/or backwards. Then those same generations consider it a poor mark on the Obama administration that he was in favor of personal automobiles.
I guess I view it like this: Of course you can consider it a poor mark against somebody if you don’t like what that person did or believed. But going back and applying modern day values to past decisions and opinions isn’t really fair. Obviously abolitionists of the early 19th century would have considered it a poor mark against Andrew Jackson for his support of slavery, just as abolitionists of the mid-19th century considered it a poor mark against Abraham Lincoln that his aims were not to free the slaves (not until he was basically forced into it). However, it’s simply silly to detract from either of these men for upholding or being in favor of (which Lincoln wasn’t really) a long-standing, legal, and widely supported institution.
(If you don’t like LBJ, then just focus on Kennedy. Or not. This conversation is probably too expansive for an innocuous comment, as it is.)
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But again, every country uses personal automobiles right now. If over the next fifty years, the EU, Russia, Japan, China, etc. all get rid of personal automobiles, make new laws, sign treaties in an effort to reduce the number of personal automobiles around the world – and if over the same 50 years, the US does nothing in that direction – then yes, it would be a poor mark against the US, and it would be a poor mark against whoever will run it 50 years from now.
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What I See As The Biggest Error In Your Thinking
You are treating the early 1800’s World as if it were the same as today’s world. By this I mean that you are expecting what happens in the rest of the world to have the same visability in the US then as it would have now. This is just not the case. The US was then uninterested in the rest of the world with the sole exception of marketing some of it’s products and suppyling some of it’s labor needs.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
The rest of the world bought the cotton that drove slavery.
Just sayin’. The rest of the world only poo-pooed slavery when it was economically viable.
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Well, quite aside from the fact that I still disagree with you about whether his stance on race was a poor mark against Andrew Jackson, we’re talking about American money. So it is irrelevant what the rest of the world was doing with regards to slavery.
The baseball Satanist
Well, I guess it just seems to me that you consider very little to be relevant. If the president’s opinions/acts can never be a poor mark against him, as long as they’re legal and supported by the public, regardless of their immorality, and regardless of what happens outside the country, what does that leave us with? How can we judge a president?
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I wanted to continue this conversation Cookyman, but it’s starting to require more thought than I am willing/able to give at the moment. The conversation has become convoluted enough that I no longer have the energy.
I apologize if you wanted to continue.
The baseball Satanist
Race, in not being racist, has only been an issue for the past 40 years or so.
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by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2009 6:44 AM PST up reply actions
If Jackson is going to stay on the $20
they, really, really need a picture of him beating that attempted assassin on the back.
Also, he fought with an army of pirates. PIRATES!
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I like that Teddy Roosevelt was shot by an assassin while giving a speech, and THEN HE FINISHED THE SPEECH!
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Always been ambivalent on Teddy.
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I really don’t agree with this comment. You place Jackson on that bill based on how he distinguished himself from the peers of his generation. that attitude was commonplace in his time and place.
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It has me
I’m not sure how much I wanted to know that Edgar Renteria cost as much as the Louisiana Purchase.
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but the Louisiana Purchase will never win a World Series
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 4, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Too bad it had to happen after the war was over.
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by giantsrainman on Dec 5, 2009 2:55 AM PST up reply actions
Renteria did provide me, the greatest game and moment I’ve seen in person at a baseball game. I was in the stands when Renteria hit that grand slam against the Rockies. So I do thank Renteria for giving me that moment.
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me too
it was awesome. I remember Burriss got a double once too.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 4, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
So Rent fits somewhere in the “Brian Johnson” Hall of Fame ?
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I brought a bunch of my non-baseball-appreciating friends to that game. I went ape shit and my best friend understood what happened but he didn’t react that much, and the other four were sitting around going “What happened?” while the stadium exploded. It was pretty funny.
I guess we can all safely say that if Renteria was replaced with Furcal, Cabrera, or pretty much any other option, that wouldn’t have won us a championship last year and probably that difference won’t cause us from winning a championship this upcoming season.
If it cost us or will cost us to get into the playoffs and in turn mean the Giants don’t make more money from a playoff run then it would be a problem. Meh, still don’t see that being the case though.
Also, Renteria wants to whoop Suck It, Russel Martin’s ass, so we always can approve of him for that.
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Also, Renteria wants to whoop Suck It, Russel Martin’s ass, so we always can approve of him for that.
In all honesty and without the smallest bit of sarcasm, this fact alone makes me not hate Renteria. His lack of range, crow hops before a throw to 1st, or slowest pivot in the history of double plays were all forgiven (ok, mostly forgiven) after that confrontation.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that really helped. Watching him bolt out of the dugout and get between Panda and Suck It at least showed that he knows to make sure Pablo doesn’t get tossed. Plus, he looked really pissed, and that’s a great bonus.
I actually didn’t and don’t mind the signing. I’;m more pissed that the best SS we had the minors the year before was Bocock
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by say hey nation on Dec 4, 2009 11:27 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The thing that’s kind of scary is that the shortstop picture for 2011 when Rent is gone, is still pretty blurry.
I guess we’ll burn that bridge when we come to it.
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 4, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS!
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 4, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
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by microwave donut on Dec 4, 2009 11:31 AM PST reply actions
I still hold an irrational hope that he’ll be decent in 2010. Injuries, right…
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That should be Giants fans motto: Where irrational hope happens.
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After reading the title, I thought this post it was going to be about Sabean extending Renteria’s contract
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I thought it was more about how he saved us from long term contracts with this years FA SS
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by say hey nation on Dec 4, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I thought it was going to be about that prospect from Venezuela that Renteria phoned and talked into signing with us.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Wait, was that Sandoval? Maybe I am just on crack.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
He talked to a Colombian OFer for us. Forget who, but he was a moderately hot commodity.
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by say hey nation on Dec 4, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
I still don’t get that story about Edgardo Alfonzo talking Sandoval into signing with us. Fonzie was still a Met when the Giants signed Panda, so why would he have had any particular pro-Giants sentiments? I’ve always wondered if it was really Eliezer and things got mixed up along the way.
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Edgardo supposedly told Pablo that the Giants’ treat their players really well. Even though Edgardo was back with the Mets, he was probably still bitter about the first breakup, when Steve Phillips showed him no respect for the fine years Edgardo had with them and offered him a sub market contract.
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Fonzie was still a Met when the Giants signed Panda
No he wasn’t.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sandopa01.shtml#trans
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That’s strange — both my old BA Prospect Handbook and the Cube have him signed in the summer of 2002 (which makes sense as that was when he turned 16).
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In other news, Zaun signed with the Brewers
Time for him to update that website of his
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I have no doubt that Petro Fleas will be back with the Giants. This is basically a done deal.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Quick spray ATT with this!
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by say hey nation on Dec 4, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Rumor has it the Mariners are on the verge of signing Figgins
Four years, $36 million according to Rosenthal
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Plus some serious draft pickage. I don’t mind whiffing on this one, if that’s the case.
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the thing is
we already HAVE Rent, so it’s not an either / or kind of thing. I still think Chone is going to be Rowand 2.0. I really don’t mind not signing him.
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Unless Sanchez can play short
Then it’s not Edgar Renteria that is hindering the improvement of the offense. It’s Freddy Sanchez. Edgar Renteria sucks. But who’s gonna do a better job at short? I guess we could have signed Scutaro. I guess.
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I don’t think Tejada will get more than two years, and he can not reach grounders just as well as Renteria.
Sssh don't wake Sabean . . .
JJ Hardy was the guy to grab, but Brian wasn’t ready for the off season at that point. You watch, Hardy will be one of the top SS in MLB next year and for years to come!
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by giantsrainman on Dec 6, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
lulz
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Boy Sabes is really patient this year while some fresh tires are out there waiting to be kicked. I bet he’s got his good kicking shoes on, worked out his right leg all Fall via BowFlex and has been salivating at the smell of new rubber.
Please kick the right one, maybe some 3B from a Purple team in the midwest who’s getting discarded in favor of Bobby Crosby. Yes THAT Bobby Crosby.
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WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
i believe ( i hope, anyway), sabes is waiting to see if any of the offered type A’s accept arbitration. some of them (beltre) would be more attractive to him if they do not.
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What he said is that the Giants don’t believe any of the free agnets offered arbitration are worth both the cost they will have in dollars and years and the lost draft choice.
by giantsrainman on Dec 4, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Brain > Brian
Who is this “Brain” fellow ? He is clearly better than our current GM.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 4, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Have you ever noticed that Condoleeza Rice looks like the Brain's human counterpart?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 4, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
The world has just changed, and not for the better.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Caption!!
“LOL HOWIE’S PENIS!!”
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 5, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We have a winner in the caption contest.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 5, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
If I were more awake, that would have read ‘We have a weiner in the caption contest.’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 5, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
LOL Lars
always a crack up
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
The breakout phenomenon
Something that shouldn’t be overlooked, although impossible to predict, is the chance for a player or players to have a breakout or rebound (in the case of Renteria/Rowand) season. We saw this with Uribe and Sandoval last season, with flashes from some others (Valez). And I am confidant with the addition of one good bat and solid production from Sandoval, coupled with a breakout/rebound from one or more players (Renteria, Garko, Freddy, Schierholtz, etc) our offense will be tremendously improved.
Although there are too many unknown variables in this scenario for me to not shiver with fear that the Giants might squander yet another year of amazing pitching from our horses.
If you blinked, you might have missed that flash by Velez.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 4, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
VVVVVRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
I wish I could be a confidant.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 4, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
All the players will tell you their darkest secrets!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I hope you're right about Renteria
I remember seeing him play against the Giants in 2007, his final year with the Braves. He had a monster game and was clearly the best player on the field that day. I don’t think a nearly full rebound is out of the question if he is healthy.
That said, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Giants try to trade for Jed Lowrie of the Red Sox. I think he has sleeper potential and is now blocked by Scutaro for 2 years.
by baseballjunkie on Dec 4, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
I hadn’t thought about Lowrie, but that would be a good move. I’m sure they view him as a possibility at third, now that their middle infield is set. At worst, he’ll be their utility infielder, which isn’t as important a position in the AL. I don’t know what it would take to get him, though. I just really don’t have a handle on what his value is right now.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Eh
UZR isn’t kind to Garko, but he actually doesn’t make a ton of errors at 1B. He has a career .993 fielding percentage. I know, I know, errorslol and FP is a crappy stat, but at 1B, maybe range isn’t as important as elsewhere.
He’s not a clanker, he just doesn’t move around all that well (though reportedly he’s working on getting in better shape this off season. He was at camp panda, after all)
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I think errors at 1B are even less important than other positions. Half the bad plays a crappy first basemen would make will show up as an error to some other player.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Random
http://gamestopholiday.com/?mId=32163360.3&doorId=582&clientId=219
aaaand
http://gamestopl4d2.com/ly4d.html?mId=32163581.3&doorId=544&clientId=219
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Neukom on Christmas morning!
http://gamestopholiday.com/?mId=32163751.3&doorId=582&clientId=219
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Zito guest spots on The Colbert Report
http://www.colbertnation.com/interview-simulator/automatic/?mId=32164169.3
http://www.colbertnation.com/interview-simulator/automatic/?mId=32164275.3
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For you beer lovers out there
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions
ESPN’s Buster Olney has the terms on Scutaro: $1MM signing bonus, $5MM in 2010, $5MM in 2011, and a 2012 option with a $6MM club option, $3MM player option, and $1.5MM buyout. That makes it a two-year, $12.5MM deal – less than I thought he’d receiv
Weeeeee the Red Sox sign a much better player for 3 mill a year less than we signed Renteria. This is why I wanted Jed Hoyer not more Sabean “due dilligence”
No worries
Renteria will be gone after this season and we will have a whole new overpaid veteran to use as an example of Sabean’s idiocy.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
fuck
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Posey Just Not Ready
from sf gate: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/04/SPRC1AV7V9.DTL&tsp=1:
General manager Brian Sabean said the front office had a “raging debate” over whether Posey would be the No. 1 catcher, adding, “We came to the overall conclusion it would be a tall order to ask him to do that. He just hasn’t played a lot.”
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions
there’s a lot of not-crazy in there about Franchez staying at 2B and not trading Durty.
If all this means is that we get a few months of Greg Zaun, I’m not jumping out a window.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Zaun just signed with Milwaukee.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Well, not trading Durty IF Penny walks. But if Penny re-signs…… :(
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
the fact they say that they would prefer not to rush Madbum indicates that they aren’t eager to move him either way.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Let’s hope not. Unless there’s a really good deal out there, but I would really, really prefer having Jonny in the rotation.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
They would have to get a really good player with several years left under team control to justify trading Sanchez. Teams don’t part with guys like that very often. For instance, do you think the Nats would trade Josh Willingham for Sanchez? According to fangraphs’ WAR, that’s a fair trade, but I still have a hard time imagining it happening.
WAR doesn’t really contain any information about your chances of repeating your WAR. Sanchez is properly viewed as a more volatile commodity than Willingham.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Oh crap. Are you kidding me?
Jason Kendall
Brad Ausmus
Pudge Rodriguez
Yorvit Torrealba
But those are the better backup catchers!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
for what?
I mean, he replaces Bengie in that he’s also a C who sucks.
31-year-old catcher coming off career year (and even then he only managed a .292 obp), with notoriously terrible defense … there’s gotta be somebody better.
Catchers
Eliezer Alfonzo (31)
Brad Ausmus (41)
Paul Bako (38)
Rod Barajas (34) – Type B, offered arb
Josh Bard (32)
Michael Barrett (33)
Ramon Castro (34)
Robinzon Diaz (26)
Toby Hall (34)
Jason Kendall (36) – Type B, not offered arb
Bengie Molina (35) – Type A, not offered arb
Jose Molina (35)
Miguel Olivo (31) – Type B, not offered arb
Mike Redmond (39)
Ivan Rodriguez (38) – Type B, offered arb
Yorvit Torrealba (31) – Type B, not offered arb
Matt Treanor (34)
Javier Valentin (34)
He’s the rapist.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Rapeball
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Not true. Roethlisberger hasn’t gotten less expensive OR less heroic-like.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
It’s not clear. He pleaded to a misdemeanor. My suspicion would be that some cash may have changed hands between Castro and the victim.
Because it’s really, really hard to get a rape conviction in the U.S.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Especially if the victim has been paid off.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 4, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Is it harder to get rape conviction in the US than in other countries? I don’t know where to find the numbers.
I was promised lasagna.
I dunno if it's harder or not
I know it’s pretty difficult in general, for various reasons.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
This is fucked up:
Juries, reflecting a belief among the public in a number of “rape myths”, can be reluctant to convict. Research has found that a third of people in the UK believe a woman is partially or totally responsible for being raped if she has been flirtatious. Almost the same number think she should shoulder some blame if she was drunk.
I was promised lasagna.
1/3 of people and 3/3 of police.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
Also
Apparently Canada “leads” the democratic world in rapes per capita, which is very weird.
I was promised lasagna.
that might be a function of a better police force than other countries. Maybe they make more arrests or have less strict criteria for bringing charges.
Of course I don’t know the data you’re looking at, so I’m talking out of jcb’s ass here.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
It’s based on the UN’s statistics. You can find them on Wikipedia under “rape statistics”. I misread, South Africa is 1st, which is less surprising. Canada 2nd, US 3rd.
I was promised lasagna.
hmm
there’s probably a publication worthy-paper in this stuff, but I find the prospect of writing it unpleasant.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
a perfect illustration of my earlier point. Cases go down a lot if law enforcement doesn’t care about the crime.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
the fuck?
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hmm just to clarify
that is me expressing anger/outrage. Hah poor choice of words considering the context.
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if money changed hands between him and the victim – likely the main witness – it would
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Me too
Bard is due for a huge BABIP regression and a return to OK-ness, but I don’t see us signing him.
So that leaves us with…Rod Barajas, because he has a cool name?
I was promised lasagna.
how about
we just start that Gerald guy
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m worried that if Posey has a poor spring that will leave us with Eli Whiteside, opening day catcher.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
God that is horrifying
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Barajas!
It’s just such a cool name.
Are we even planning to contend next year? If not then I’m fine with just signing Ausmus.
I was promised lasagna.
we aren’t planning on contending we should just run Whiteside out there.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Until early July or so…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 4, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t really care, but if we do that, I think Whitside will have a solid chance of being the worst MLB hitter of the past 20 years.
I was promised lasagna.
Worst Hitting Catcher Ever.....
Whiteside would have to work pretty hard to beat out Brooklyn Superba’s catcher Bill Bergen. His career line in 3028 AB’s was .170/ .194 /.201
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
TWSS
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
Ausmus sucks. I have to think that Sabochean thinks we will contend next year, so an actual non-Molina non-Ausmus non-Whiteside catcher has to be in the plans.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
There are no good catchers available as FAs. Their best option as far as getting offense out of the catcher spot is to play Posey, which they seem reluctant to do. That means Miguel Olivo or something, I guess (and he would be my preferred option out of a lot of bad ones), but there’s no reason to think any of the available guys are going to be a particularly significant improvement over Ausmus.
I was specifically addressing Ausmus and how I now doubt that he’ll be brought in. Ausmus was last a regular in 2007 and his offense has been terrible since 2000. Yeah, his OPS+ was really good this year (93 is good for a catcher), but he only had 107 ABs. Compare to Miguel Olivo:
Year Ausmus Olivo
2005 80 122
2006 54 87
2007 67 72
2008 60 90
2009 93 103
For only the first three years of that span was Ausmus a regular and he never once out-hit Olivo. Of course, Olivo is a terrible defender. The comparison points the same way if applied to Barajas, Navarro or Bard.
Sabean said that there’s no way Posey catches a hundred major league games this season. That means we have to bring in a catcher capable of playing around 60 games and possibly many more. Can the soon to be 40 year-old Ausmus do that and stay healthy and not be a sink-hole at the plate? I think there is sufficient data to suggest that Ausmus is an awful hitter and that most of the other options aren’t as epically bad with the stick as he is.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
They are marked. I won’t though. Not wanting Ausmus is not nearly the same as yearning for a great hitter behind the plate. If you think so, you missed the entire point of my post.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
lol
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that’s more horrifying, but I think my scenario is on the “likely” side of the probability distribution
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
IAWTC
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 4, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
DING DING DING
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I met his mom on BART once. We were going to an A’s game (don’t ask) and randomly sat next to Rod’s mom. She was very nice.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'll take the rapists for 400, Trebek
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 4, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
It wasnt the pronunciation that scared me
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 6, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Look at the dirt in front of home plate
BtB thoroughly researched write-up on Olivo
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 4, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
Guess which pitch that was on this plot.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 4, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
lulz
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
We already have one of those
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 5, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t mind if we get a mediocre catcher, just lord don’t make him another hacker.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
There’s also this
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2009/9/13/1028086/fun-fact-s-miguel-olivo-addition
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 4, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
LOLivo
Certain free agents – including Rod Barajas, Miguel Olivo and Yorvit Torrelaba [sic] – prefer more than one year, but their agents still plan to meet with the Giants in Indy.
“Absolutely,” said Dan Lozano, who represents Barajas.
Martin Arburua, Olivo’s agent, said he already spoke with the Giants and will chat again.
“There’s mutual interest,” he said. “Miguel definitely likes Bruce Bochy (who managed Olivo in San Diego in 2005) and would love to play in the Bay Area. He resides in Modesto. Miguel would take the best opportunity to play. I’m not sure if the Giants are it or not. We’ve talked to several teams.”
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Ooops, forgot to add the link (Shea article).
OT: This “braintrust” pic needs to be DFA’d
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
If there was ever a guy that looked like his liver was ready to explode its this nitwit. He looks 803 years old, not 2 years younger than Bochy who is 55.
by E Ticket on Dec 6, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
TORRY LABA
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Martin Arburua, Olivo’s agent, said he already spoke with the Giants and will chat again.
Ugh
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Oh lord.
Bengie’s phone just started to ring.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Sabes dialed the wrong number. He meant to call Jose.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Clairvoyance?
A couple of catchers with punch: Rod Barajas hit 19 homers and set career highs in games (126) and RBIs (71), and Miguel Olivo hit 23 homers with 65 RBIs. Both hit under .250. Another free agent is Jose Molina, who’s no Bengie. His career average is .235, and he played 100 games just once.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Your link seems to need work.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
i blame SBN.
and billy mays.
oh and fred lewis.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
By making this statement Sabean is basically telling any catcher who’s willing to sign a one year contract to run our pockets. Since now there is no other option but to accept some outrageous contract. If I’m I-Rod, J. Kendell, or Yorveet I’m going all Ray Liota in Goodfellas on the Giants brass:
Catcher X – Unless you’re willing to start Eli Whiteside (.286 OPB) until Buster is ready than you’re going to have to shell out some serious dough!
Sabean – Well, umm. We think we… ummm
Catcher X – F* you! Pay me!
down with OPB?
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
I wonder why he didn’t get enough playing time…
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 4, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 4, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
KLWELKNKNEANOIANVON
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
because i really needed more disappointment from the front office
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
FUCK BEES
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
HE HAD HIS CHANCE!
HE’S NOT READY TO PLAY BECAUSE HE ISN’T PLAYING!! IN ORDER TO FIX THIS, WE WILL KEEP HIM FROM PLAYING!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions
Now, HOW CAN I GET MY HANDS ON THAT YORVEET FELLAH?
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
I'm listening to Rush
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Signals or Moving Pitchers?
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Grace under Pressure
A friend who loves the band keeps telling me that I can’t write them off until I listen to it (he thinks it’s their best)
it’s ok, there are a few songs I’ve enjoyed and a few more that just sound like a hookless mess.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I hated Grace Under Pressure.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
I’m getting bored with it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
not my favorite but that was the tour I saw.
Signals is the money mellon.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Rush just isn’t the band for you if you require “hooks.”
Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Dec 4, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
See, I don’t get why people are saying this to me. I already knew that. It’s other people who are telling me that I need to give them more of a chance than I already did.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I don’t mean to be sexist by saying this, but I feel like Rush is kind of a “guy” thing. There are female Rush fans, no doubt, but if you’ve ever gone to see them live (and I have, twice), it’s pretty heavy on the dudes: power rock nerds air drumming in Section 330 and holding up lighters during “Closer to the Heart.”
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
I dunno, I don’t see anything about them that’s particularly “masculine” or something that I feel like I would only understand if I was a dude.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
whats not masculine about a guy singing in falsetto for 2 hours, wearing tight ass jeans, singing to a bunch of dude so-called rock nerds?
So you don’t like Led Zeppelin either?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Denied!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Just watched "I Love You Man"
During one of the DVD extras the actress who played the bride to be said that she talked with band members about how the “bored girlfriend” phenomenon is pretty common at Rush shows.
Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Dec 4, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Rashida Jones!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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(I actually prefer rashida to jenna)
though I prefer pam to karen.
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Do you have a cat?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 4, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
You require hooks?
I don’t think the Flaming Lips are all that hook driven either.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
For real????
I don’t actually require hooks (I do require that music be interesting) but the Flaming Lips have great hooks.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
on some of their music. The new album doesn’t seem hook driven to me at all. Much more linear
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I dunno
I can kind of see that, but even without big blatant hooks in most of the songs, most of them are still really good melodically, in my opinion (which is also important to me.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Well that’s different (and also something I personally get out of Rush) =)
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I’ve gotten decent melodies out of other Rush albums (though nothing that really excited me too much) but this one, I had difficulties with. Of course, I also often have trouble really picking out everything about most albums on first listen. I did like this one enough that I’m not deleting it or anything.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m not a huge fan of that album. I would concur with the Moving Pictures and Signals groups. Also I am a fan of Fly by Night
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I think I’m at the point where I can feel pretty confident in saying the band isn’t my thing. Especially since that genre of music (even the bands I used to really like) isn’t really my thing anymore either.
But hey, I gave it a chance!
I did get the feeling that this guy likes Grace Under Pressure a lot more than most people did.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I don't think P/G is their best album either
But I like “Between the Wheels” a lot.
Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Dec 4, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
my favorite song on the album was
THE BODY ELECTRIC
no clue why.
But now I’m gonna listen to Pilot Can at the Queer of God.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m listening to Pinback, one of my favorites.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
OH GAAAAAWD HAS SHE ALWAYS LIVED HERE? I THINK SHE HAAAAS
I’ve never heard Pinback, what are they like?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I don’t like it when friends insist I listen to somebody one more time before writing ’em off. Music is one of those things that defies explanation.
I like what I like. Just leave me alone. I don’t go around telling other people what to listen to. OK, rant over.
Sorry, but I’m gonna have to insist you listen to what I think you ought to like.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 5, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
A lack of baseball has made jponry crack.
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dream theater
D:
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
In the 80s there was an alt-rock band called Dream Syndicate that I used to think was OK when I heard them on the radio, though I never was interested enough to buy their records. So I got a little mixed up about the name and when I heard somebody mention Dream Theater I thought it was the same band. Boy was I confused and dismayed when I heard this band I thought I liked doing some kind of horrible prog metal. It took me a while to figure out what had gone wrong.
Aw man
I like Dream Theater.
/sad
Lethargy
It has me
I used to!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Strangely, I have another story about Dream Theater. I have a friend who was dating a guy who was really into Dream Theater and she went to the concert with him. As they were walking in, they overheard some guy say to his friend, “This is way more crowded than Dokken.” I found this hilarious and still use the line. Anyway, my friend fell asleep during the Dream Theater concert.
John Tesh
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Hootie and Blowfish
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 4, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
This guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OUyD_Hu4mk
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Regis Philbin's Xmas Album
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
huh
never pegged you as a fan of drug addled gas bags.
Wait a minute
Rush are drug addled gas bags?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, IF Rush has a fault, it’s probably that they didn’t do enough drugs.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 4, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Rush: Sabean is apparently a big fan of the song Kid Gloves
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
the team is going to suck next year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
wut u talkin about this team won 88 games last seson
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nick sheerholz is goin to hav a brakeout year and be a all star. 25 hrs 135 ribbies
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aron rowland is finaly comfrtable in frisco and will hit 26+ homrs zgain
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brain sabeen told me that edger renterrea is going to bounce back this year 330 with 10 dingerz what the hell is BUSTer posey going to do
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
YES
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Sabean is a fucking idiot
I thought he didn’t offer Molina arbitration since he was committed on 100% giving the job to Posey. Now that it seems that Posey is not getting the job outright, it is completely ridiculous not to offer Molina arbitration.
In the same article it says, "Molina, who hit .278 and averaged 18 homers and 85 RBIs in his three years as a Giant, and his representatives made it clear he “doesn’t have an appetite for a one-year deal. So it’s pretty much a moot point,” said Sabean, who would have wanted Molina with a one-year deal."
So Sabean wanted Molina with a one-year deal? Yet didn’t feel that offering arbitration was useful? Even if Molina turns it down, we get draft picks.
This is unbelievable incompetence, and there is absolutely no justifying this. I’m not a Molina fan at all, but it was a big mistake not to offer Bengie arb. Everything Sabean has said after his decision has been contradictory to the decision itself. It just makes no sense. Unbelievable incompetence.
Maybe the logic is:
(a) If Molina is on the roster, Posey will get NO playing time as opposed to just SOME of the time
(b) They can get a cheaper catcher somewhere else.
© Whiteside is a decent enough catcher to go halfsies with Buster
I’m not arguing any of the points, but they are definitely arguable.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 4, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
But Bengie might have accepted arbitration. And they should be able to find an equally crappy catcher for way less money than Bengie would have made in arbitration. So even if they’re not planning to start Posey, even for the whole season, it’s still a defensible move.
but if, as the article seems to indicate, that Sabean would have wanted Molina on a one year deal, then why wouldn’t he offer arb?
Because he wanted the one year deal to be at an amount smaller than what he would have gotten via arbitration.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 4, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
And in some ways, it’s easier to play rather than do what [Posey] did. He was in big leagues as an emergency situation, a third catcher, and he caught all the bullpens.
Um, am I missing something? Did the Giants start the arb clock on Posey in September because it was an “emergency”? Why did they take Holm off the 40-man roster without considering this scenario, then?
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
Every time Sabes tries to explain WTF is going on with Posey, he just comes off as more of a moron.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
It's like listening to Yogi Berra
“He’s exhausted from playing so much this year, and because of that no one thinks he’s ready to start 100 games.”
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
What Is It With The Fear Of Starting Posey's Arbitration Clock?
No option was used in 2009 so the Giants still have 3. I just do not see what the big deal is with regards to the 32 days of MLB Service buster got at the end of the season. Do you really think this is likely to effect either when he becomes arbitration eligible or when he becomes free agent eligible? Sure, the possibility exists but it is almost as unlikely as the Giants signing Matt Holliday.
by giantsrainman on Dec 4, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
It means that he;ll have to spend 32 days + 2 weeks in the minors over the next six seasons in order for the Giants to get a 7th year out of him. I don’t see the team doing much to improve the offense, and there’s no reason to think that Buster can’t manhandle AAA, so there’s going to tremendous pressure to start Posey if the new guy gets off to a slow start (which seems quite likely, since “slow” is the top speed of all the available catchers).
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
And That Is Going To Happen Anyway Since They Plan To Start 2010 With Him In AAA As They Should
by giantsrainman on Dec 5, 2009 2:59 AM PST up reply actions
Probably, as it should. But there was a line in Haft’s story that Sabean acknowledged Posey will have to be on the roster and play a significant amount of time if they can’t get a better option on the roster this season. And frankly, we’re giving you a cheap one-year contract and probably plan to replace you mid-season, isn’t exactly the kind of sales pitch that’s likely to entice a better option. They’re going to have to get lucky with somebody the way they did with Benito.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
By supplying them with steroids to resurrect their career?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 5, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
i posted this in the posey fanshot, but from klaw today
Keith Law
Posey more ready than SF thinks
“Plenty of people, myself included, believe Posey can catch 100 games in the majors in 2010. The problem is that none of them seem to work for the Giants, who are determined to sign one of the bad offensive catchers on the free agent market. If the Giants seriously believe that Posey can’t out-produce a Rod Barajas and his .258 OBP from 2009, they are seriously underestimating the player they liked enough to pay $6 million in June of 2008. Posey doesn’t have to be a star right away to be ready to out-produce the inferior and more expensive players the Giants are considering as stopgap solutions.”
Consider how his problems defensively might effect an otherwise excellent pitching staff
Give the kid a chance to grow into the job rather than destroying our staff and his career.
Don't believe everything you think.
The unknown, of course.
That’s what it comes down to, no? There are those who would rather have the security of a proven mediocrite than take a gamble.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I am open to Buster going either way in 2010, but you really think Buster would destroy our Staff and his career? Also, what “problems defensively” are you referring to? Like Bengie not being able to catch the high fastball, those types of problems?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
How So?
What do you base that on. His size? Bad hands. Lack of mobility. Lack of game knowledge?
Did you see this kid move behind the plate? Molina and Whiteside looked like human sundials in contrast. Next to Lewis, he is probably one of the most, if not the most, athletic players on the Giants.
Shortstops in prestige college programs aren’t recruited because they have bad reflexes, limp arms, hard hands, and the iq of a slug.
College catchers who win the Johnny Bench Award do not survive the nomination and winning process by exhibiting the potential to destroy careers through inexperience and ineptitude.
Molina was too fat to move. Too old to raise his arms above his shoulders, and either too lazy, or too infirm to block balls that hit the dirt behind the plate—something even good high school pitchers can perform. To claim that Pose’y is not ready for the reasons that are being publicized is a canard, repeated by the truly brainwashed.
It would be more helpful if you manged to rephrase your concerns if you don’t want to be taken as just another non serious doodler.
by E Ticket on Dec 6, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Is This A Recomendation To Just Start Garko At Catcher While Givng Posey More Time?
College catchers who win the Johnny Bench Award do not survive the nomination and winning process by exhibiting the potential to destroy careers through inexperience and ineptitude.
by giantsrainman on Dec 6, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
SS Skills Have Almost Zero To Do With Catching Skills
by giantsrainman on Dec 6, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
You asked if the comment was a recommendation to start Garko at catcher.
Within the comment, it said
Shortstops in prestige college programs aren’t recruited because they have bad reflexes, limp arms, hard hands, and the iq of a slug.
Garko was not a college shortstop. Therefore, the comment wasn’t a recommendation to start Garko at catcher.
The point is, he used multiple points of evidence, and you grabbed one of them out of context in an attempt to agree with him or make him look foolish.
Lethargy
It has me
What?
Garko won the Johnny Bench award. You said
College catchers who win the Johnny Bench Award do not survive the nomination and winning process by exhibiting the potential to destroy careers through inexperience and ineptitude.
So that’s why we were asking if you thought Garko could be our catcher. After all, he won the Johnny Bench award.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Reread the string of comments
E Ticket said that.
If you want an answer to that question, you’re responding to the wrong person.
To me, it looked like GRM was taking one sentence of E Ticket’s comment to ridicule him. It was obvious E Ticket wasn’t talking about Garko:
Shortstops in prestige college programs aren’t recruited because they have bad reflexes, limp arms, hard hands, and the iq of a slug.
College catchers who win the Johnny Bench Award do not survive the nomination and winning process by exhibiting the potential to destroy careers through inexperience and ineptitude.
Um, yeah. Garko didn’t play SS in college.
Lethargy
It has me
Quote fail. It should look like this:
Shortstops in prestige college programs aren’t recruited because they have bad reflexes, limp arms, hard hands, and the iq of a slug.
College catchers who win the Johnny Bench Award do not survive the nomination and winning process by exhibiting the potential to destroy careers through inexperience and ineptitude.
Lethargy
It has me
But E Was Making A Broad And Frankly Wrong Statement
with regards to the value of winning the Johnny Bench Award in college. The Garko example was just that, an example of how wrong E’s broad statement was.
by giantsrainman on Dec 7, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
still amazing
that anyone really thought that booting Molina was going to lead to Posey getting the job.
And as for draft picks, it’s fairly likely that the Mets (especially) would have signed someone better anyway, thus no draft pics.
Now the sad vigil begins to see how much money can be dumped on a backup catcher who will also get to play 140 games next year.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 4, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Justin Miller goes home
Dodgers come to terms with RHP Justin Miller on a minor-league deal
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I’m so meh on Edgar Renteria. I was down on signing him, but I understood there was no one better waiting in the wings (although at the time I preferred O-Cab).
It kind of bums me out how many of us think of Rent, Zito and Rowand in terms of, “Hey, there are only [x] years left on his contract.”
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
I actually think Rentarrhea
will improve a little bit.
Usually players don’t suck that much for longer than a season. Especially players who have been good their entire careers.
Plus he was injured… And as much as I doubt it kept him from batting .330 with 15 HR, it’s definitely possible for him to resemble his 2008 self in 2010.. Which isn’t all that great, but I only said ‘a little improvement’.
Dead Cat Bounce!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Let's just move Pablo to SS.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
I’m all for it.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 4, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Giants’ Talk: Catchers, Rotation, Howry
By Mike Axisa [December 4 at 5:40pm CST]
Andrew Baggarly of The Mercury News and John Shea of The SF Chronicle have some notes on the Giants’ for us…
* GM Brian Sabean said “nobody thinks [Buster Posey] is ready to catch 100-plus games in the big leagues,” however they haven’t made any “money offers” to any free agent catchers. He acknowledged that a multi-year deal for a backstop “wouldn’t be wise.”
* As for why they didn’t offer Type-A free agent Bengie Molina arbitration, Sabean said the team didn’t “need another arbitration case,” and that they “have multiple needs and we want to spread the money throughout the roster.”
* Sabean indicated that the team isn’t comfortable paying Brad Penny or Juan Uribe what they want, and neither is likely to return. Both players declined one year deals last week.
* Shea says that if Penny leaves, the team probably won’t move Jonathan Sanchez in a trade, while Baggarly says there is “less resistance to the idea of Madison Bumgarner beginning the season in the rotation.”
* The team has informed reliever Bob Howry that they would like to bring him back, but they have not yet talked about money.
* The Giants will not forfeit a draft pick to sign a player, which rules out the Type-A’s. They hold the 24th overall pick in next year’s draft. However, Sabean said that Type-A’s who weren’t offered arbitration were “more sensible targets.”
Wow, Sabeans reasons for not offering Bengie arbitration….Laziness!
Laziness Had Nothing To Do With It
It wasn’t the work of the arbitration process Sabean wanted to avoid it was the potential dollar cost he wanted to avoid.
by giantsrainman on Dec 4, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
* Shea says that if Penny leaves, the team probably won’t move Jonathan Sanchez in a trade, while Baggarly says there is "less resistance to the idea of Madison Bumgarner beginning the season in the rotation."
Wait, so if we signed Penny, Sanchez may have been a trade piece? I am not sure I would have been cool with this in this particular offseason.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
But that dream keeps me from drinking when thinking about next year's lineup*
I find that heavy drinking keeps me from dwelling too much on next years train wreck of a line-up. The only way Renteria helps the Giants win in 2014 is if he goes all Villalona on Sabean’s ass, and we get a real GM to run this organization.
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 4, 2009 5:49 PM PST reply actions
Silly Grant
a broken-down 41 year old shortstop who was already on the roster would have been a better and cheaper option, certainly a better fielder. He is a hero to his countrymen, if not every Latin player, of which the Giants have many. He had a better batting average and OBS, and played in Texas, of all places, for $7M less.
The most interesting shortstop in the world, in fact.
I also can’t believe that there was no AAAA mediocrity that could have stood out there for a lot less, nor another one this year. I know that’s not the MO for Brain and Bork, but that doesn’t make it less terrible.
Right now I hold out hope that some middle infielder will be added to the roster of that sort who will fall into the position again if Rent has problems with his arm or whatever again.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
Fast forward to 2024
OMG I JUST REALIZED BUSTER POSEY GOT HIS FIRST ONLY MAJOR LEAGUE HIT ON MY BIRTHDAY
FREE BUSTER POSEY
My birthday is in the off season!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 5, 2009 6:48 AM PST up reply actions
Mine too!
This thursday actually
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I share my birthday with probably one of the worst people on earth (no not Russell Martin), Bin Laden. But I also share it with Chuck Norris.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
Bravo, my friend
that was was well-written. Bravo.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 4, 2009 11:03 PM PST reply actions
He's not your friend, pal
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he's not your johnson, "cat"
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
he's not your cat, dog
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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leggo of my johnson
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 5, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Silly - it happened once it could happen again comparison
Player A: 35 yrs old: .218 /.295/.343/.638
36 yrs old: 289/.380/.432/.813
Player B: 33 yrs old .250 /.307/.328/ .635
So the A is Ray Durham and B Renteria. Ray is just about the only player I’ve presonally watched have a horrible year, convince me he was “done” and then have an amazing turn around back to career level numbers. I’ll just cross my fingers and hope it happens to Renteria next year.
And next year is Scott’s scheduled tri-annual 20+ homerun year. So there’s that.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
Durham’s 2007 BABIP was 72 points below his career average. Renteria’s BABIP last year was also lower than usual, but only by 36 points. I definitely expect him to improve, but I don’t see him going back to his career norms.
I was promised lasagna.
FLOLRIDA
FUCK YOU, YOU OVERRATED FUCKS.
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LOL GATORS! GATLOLERS! URBAN MEYLOLER
god I hate them and their stupid jesus freak quarterback.
HAHAHAHAHHAHA JESUS WASN’T HELPING YOU TODAY TIMMY.
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by bondslegend on Dec 5, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll be there. GO EAGLES!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'm considering it
I don’t know if I want to see BC get its ass kicked in person though
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I strongly doubt it
BC was pretty bad this year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah, we were not good. BC still doesn’t have a quarterback and the defense can be dink-and-dunked to death. Of course, Barkley throws a lot of picks, so we do have a chance to make some plays on defense.
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USC sucks
and fuck them.
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we dont know how much Renteria's injury hurt his performance
And, Uggla is not a free agent.
welp
December 5th and I’m already depressed about the Giants.
Thanks McCovey Chronicles, what would I do without you?
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Jon Heyman wonders aloud if Bengie Molina is seeking a three-year pact, since the Mets are willing to give him two years and there is no deal in place yet (via Twitter).
Oh ya he would’ve taken arbitration when it looks like he won’t even accept a two year offer. Throw yourself down a well sabean.
fml
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More tweets – guess he’s in Indy now:
#mets trying to wait it out on b. molina. figure teams needing catcher (royals, rangers) have less $ than them.
no big deals yet. hearing #giants telling hitters to pull after study shows need to pull to homer at their park. geniuses. #sarcasm
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
OT grumble niners grumble
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
IM GOING TO FUCKING KILL MIKE SINGLETARY
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU RUNNING A REVERSE ON A PUNT RETURN WHEN YOUR FUCKING RETURNERS CANT EVEN CATCH THE BALL. AND YOUR FUCKING OFFENSE CAN MOVE THE BALL JUST FINE. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
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Singletary is the NFL version of Brian Sabean…same ignorant arrogance, without the skid row complexion, but with a smoother delivery. They both think time stood still in 1985. Besides, Singletary is going to be the new Paul Harvey of motivational speak. There are a thousand corporate sales meetings in 300 windowless hotel conference rooms, with 30000000 mystery meat dinners, waiting to be served in the offseason in anticipation of wordy inspiration and perspiration from Preacher Mike on how to manage a game clock while exhibiting grit, character, and warrior spirit.
by E Ticket on Dec 6, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
LOL OFFENSIVE PASS INTERFERENCE
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 6, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
THATS IT IM NOT WATCHING SPORTS EVER AGAIN
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
U CANT MAKE ME HOMBRE
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
TIENES CINCO ANOS JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
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Wow, well fuck that shit
FUCK that SHIT.
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LOL BCS
TCU vs. Boise State.
No need for the non-BCS schools to prove themselves, right?
FREE BUSTER POSEY
WHATEVER, ALABAMA AND TEXAS IS ALL THAT MATTERS, nobody cares about CAL, LOL CAL, make that LOL Cal every year
whee
Poinsettia bowl!
More amazingly, how or why did Cal keep getting ranked? They were in the top 20 before the UW game? I think the polls are an abusive relationship. "No, really baby, I promise, this time we won’t lose to a .500 team… really, THIS time we’re marching all the way to El Paso…
… Phoenix
… San Diego (but a week early)…
barf. Cal vs. Utah: the ancient rivalry renewed. I’m sure the Bears will be PUMPED UP! Especially two days before Xmas.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Right
it’s the other team that I haven’t enjoyed so much this year.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 7, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Separate But Equal Bowl
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
at least Alex Smith played well
that’s more meaningful to the 49ers future success than winning some meaningless game in a season that would have been one and done in the playoffs(if we had made it somehow).
Nice
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 6, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK YOU BRETT FAVRE YOU DOUCHEBAG
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Sports isn’t fair.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
It was tonight!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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