Juan Uribe re-signs; roster decisions loom
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 30, 2009 11:13 AM PST
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PrintWith Juan Uribe coming back, and with the Giants still looking to add a bat and possibly another reliever, the organization will have players spilling over the sides of the 25- and 40-man rosters. The 25-man roster will have a permutation of the following players:
C
Posey/FA
Whiteside
INF
Ishikawa
Sandoval
Sanchez
Renteria
Uribe
DeRosa
Frandsen
OF
Rowand
Bowker
Schierholtz
Torres
Velez
Lewis
SP
Cain
Zito
Sanchez
4th starter/Bumgarner
5th starter/Lincecum
RP
Wilson
Affeldt
Romo
Medders
Runzler
Valdez/other
That’s 26 players, not including the BIG BAT that is sure to show up any day now. Actually, I included Frandsen only because he’s out of options. He has a slightly better chance of making the roster over Tom Brokaw, but that’s only because Brokaw’s hip is acting up. So the 25-man-roster is set until the Giants a) acquire another player, or b) decide to go with a 12-man pitching staff.
If the Giants really do acquire another hitter, which of those outfielders is expendable? Which one of those outfielders doesn’t help the Giants’ chances of winning baseball games in 2010 more than the other players on the list? Yeah, that’s the one I was thinking of too. But he’s a starter now. Remember those 100 at-bats in July?
Yeah, and it’s only December. The beating will get much worse as March approaches. I’ll make that horse pay.
So if the Giants acquire another hitter, either Bowker goes to the minors (which wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if he isn’t starting in the majors) or Lewis is traded/designated. That'll teach him to take a walk.
I guess that’s not really as complicated as I thought. I just wonder what Brian Sabean thinks when Velez’s name never comes up in trade talks. "Oh, they must know he’s untouchable," probably. "That’s why they don’t ask for Lincecum, either."
Open Roster Logistics Thread. I think that Brian Bocock actually has a chance to be removed from the 40-man roster this time.
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WHY IS BOCOCK?!
I may be able to finally get rid of this sig.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 11:14 AM PST reply actions
JUST BEAT IT!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
God I really don't have a clue why Velez is playing
Burris had that hot streak where he brought his average up to .290 then it fell again and then he got demoted…I wonder why Velez hasn’t. I’m praying that a expected terrible showing at ST will cause his ass to be shipped down to AAA along with a trade with Frandsen + Tanner/Bucardo for Uggla. /fantasy
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:18 AM PST reply actions
Velez is in line to start because his .445 sly against eighties last year will fits with the platoon, and the team needs a leadoff hitter. Apparently the FO has seen enough of lewis, who had similar power, walks more, and plays worse defense. And I doubt Velez will fail in ST because he’s put up some of the best numbers on the tream two years in a row.
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
nah i’m with you, make no changes to our society, this is the way we do things therefore its the best way.
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
am i challenging your perception on how “real” would react to your comments???
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
making me look up the numbers to defend my point…
velez hit .315/.359/.493 in Spring Training 2009. I couldn’t find the 2008 numbers but according to my memory he hit better than that.
Based on those last two years, I don’t expect him to do terrible in Spring 2010.
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
I’d like to challenge your perception that spring training numbers mean anything.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
they do to Bork
See Emmanuel Burriss
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
i never said they mean anything
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
BOOM! Rotorueter’s been lawyered!
Gary Darling, go DIAFF.
by The Enchanter on Dec 30, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
SWOOP!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
he’s not expecting Velez to hit terribly in ST, he’s hoping that he does.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
No I did say expected, but it was more out of sarcastic bitterness than anything. I hope he phails in ST yeah,
If he kicks up his OBP a bit that will be more palatable but thats like telling Bengie Molina to get faster,
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno I figured your meaning was pretty clear despite the use of “expected”.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Well i mean that’s where Sneak might have gotten that I expected him to do poorly in ST. I didn’t really look it up, I just figured that his true Vrooom self would manifest itself eventually
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
ST numbers are worthless. The end.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
nobody is disagreeing with you…
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
I think he’s saying that Bochy & Sabean look at ST #‘s. And that Velez has hit well the past two springs so he expects him to hit well again. He doesn’t necessarily think Velez is the best option to start in left.
He also says you should quit your job & start smoking pot all day.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Yeah, I had to re-read the thread and picked that up.
Well, I am not at work today, and not smoking pot. 1 of 2 ain’t bad
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Medical marijuana!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
you completely missed the point. Guitar said he expects Velez to do terrible in ST and I said, no that’s not likely because he’s done good 2 springs in a row.
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Now batting 3rd: Velez!
and Batting cleanup: velez!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I have no clue why this comment is all the way up here _
fail me
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
But really, is he a leadoff hitter?
He doesn’t fulfill any of the requirements, He hacks at everything, isn’t fast on the basepaths, and doesn’t hit for average. Say what you will about BA meaning nothing, but the guy a few hot weeks then promptly cooled off until he hit that leadoff hr off of an underestimating Pedro Martinez. He might be a starter next year but he is definitely not the ANSWER. =/
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I agree he isn’t an ideal leadoff hitter. Lewis is probably the only person on the 25-man who is, but it doesn’t look like he will be on the team. I’m all for signing Damon to fill the position.
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah yeah I think it was a misconception cuz i said expected, but i didnt really mean that haha. I was basically saying he sucks he sucks i hope he sucks in ST too, but then again i really shouldn’t post when i’ve just woken up.
Lewis could probably do it well, but i think we’ve screwed up his baseball career enough. He definitely fulfills the OBP part of a leadoff hitter and he can be fast, in some ways
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'd much rather see a Schierholtz / Torres platoon in RF.
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
But doesn’t Nate hit LHP pretty well?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Not over his minor league career no
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
actually
Velez will pull a Jason Ellison and have a great ST but then not make the team anyways. Also Fred Lewis.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
That doesn’t seem too bad
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
looks just right for a good 78 wins!
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
any details on Uribe's deal?
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
damnit, i just woke up. i’ll need at least 20 more minutes plus a side of french toast.
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Dec 30, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
what will happen
Lewis is traded/designated
And as long as he doesn’t go to the Fodgers, I’ll pull for him.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 11:23 AM PST reply actions
bocok gotta go
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 11:24 AM PST reply actions
But he doesn’t want to go. He wants to come.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
TWSS
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
man, i must be rusty
"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."
by KINGofCRA5H on Dec 30, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, it was almost too easy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Bring Back Barry
Barry for Freddie six-fingers
Bocock must stay.
Remember: Pitching & defense, pitching & defense. Come on, say it with me now!
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
Actually, the doctor recommends a reduction.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
If your Bocock remains on the 40 man roster for more than 4 years, consult your physician.
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by DrStankus on Dec 30, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Let me try to get one more use out of this one
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Dec 30, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m starting to think the best move for a bat is to trade for Uggla rather than sign LaRoche. Not because Uggla’s a better hitter (although he probably is, slightly), but because maybe we’d be able to convince them to take Frandsen and Lewis, and maybe they’ll get a chance to play in Florida.
It’s a bit sad that my hopes for this team now revolve around our players finding employment elsewhere.
I was just thinking we needed another second baseman.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Whats good about Uggla though is that he also can play LF. We must fill our roster with guys who can play as many positions as possible.
Pretty sure LaRoche can only play 1b
GIT R DUN SABEZ
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Regular PT in 2012!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
DeRosa – utility-man
Uribe – super utility-man
Posey – ultimate utility-man (he can close games too!)
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 30, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
i think derosa is better than uribe unless you’re basing it off age
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
No! that 8th inning bobble ruined it for me! OH THE HUMANITY
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Now we just need a super ultimate utility man and we’ll be set.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
He can play left field? I see he has 20 games in the outfield in 2004 in Double A. That doesn’t mean he’s qualified to play left field adequately.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Fantasy baseball versatility FTW!
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
Uggla may not be a better hitter, but he averages a higher WAR than LaRoche.
by Squire_Boone on Dec 30, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
absolutely nothing!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
say it again!
Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.
Listen to me!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Welcome to a cup of 1970’s Giatns Fandom. I pray you don’t have another any time soon.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
no offense but
we couldn’t even get kevin kouzmanoff for those two, and yet you think we can get uggla for them?
by speedyt72000 on Dec 30, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
none taken
I don’t believe the Kouzmanoff rumors. But either way we’d probably have to add something else to make a trade for Uggla work. Valdez? I think Lewis and Frandsen would be a good starting point though. If the Marlins are serious about dumping payroll, I can’t imagine they wouldn’t have interest in a couple of major-league ready position players, even if they aren’t anything special.
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 30, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Who's that Linsecome fellow you got as the possible 5th SP?
Is he any good or will the Giants Brass regret letting Penny go? Can we trade him for Uggla?
Win the inning.
i’d trade linsecome for uggla in a heartbeat, we have this other guy lincecum who I hear has a nasty changeup
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Calling Derosa an INF might be a bit of a presumption. If the Giants get Laroche, Delgado or Uggla, Derosa becomes an OF. If they get Damon, he’s an INF.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I'm pulling for Uggla! (If price is right)
by Squire_Boone on Dec 30, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I actually kind of would, if the deal is around 3/18
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I’d rather do 2/15 than 3/18.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
That makes absolutely no sense to me. If you’re willing to do 2/15, then with 3/18 you basically get laroche for 3M for the 3rd year, which is a huge bargain.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
but if he sucks, then we can get rid of him 1 year faster, that’s the logic
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
That and this.
Too me the this franchise doesn’t need to mass import “almost” average any more. So frankly I don’t want managment falling a sleep at the wheel thinking .ok. 2 out of 3 years form a vertean is good enough. Call it the J.T. Snow effect if you will.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
more important to me is the fact that on a 2 year contract, he’s off the books in 2012 when Cain is a free agent.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
meh
3 (or even 6) mil isn’t going to hamstring the franchise into not being able to afford Cain, not to mention a league average replacement will probably cost at least that much, since 1b in the minors is pretty barren.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
LaRoche isn't "almost" average
he’s above average. This franchise has exactly one above average position player. One. Having “above average” locked down for 3 years at a position where there really isn’t anything on the horizon in the minors is a good thing.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
The negative about LaRoche is that I heard his work ethic is poor. It was the reason why Atlanta dumped him the first time.
"meh"
Neal isn’t on the horizon? Also there are a couple better than LaRoche options likely to hit the FA market next offseason. I’d rather trade for Burrell or Overbay.
Thing A
Say what?
Over his career he’s been a substantially below average player. He has been very slightly above average for 3 of the last 4 seasons, but is not projected to be above average next year. CHONE in particular thinks he’s just this side of worthless.
O'Hara: Detective Lassiter is literally on fire.
Spencer: What kind of fire are we talking about-- "Michael Jackson in the Pepsi commercial" fire, or "misusing the word literally" fire?
um
his first 2 seasons sucked, the above average, above average, slightly below average, above average. He’s probably not going to be worse than slightly below average, and that is well worth $6M/yr.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
yeah but...
Just because he has been above average does not mean he will continue to be above average. That being said, I wouild be more than comfortable at 3/18, I’m must afraid it will be 3/27
by theimmortalbenard on Dec 31, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
true
but it’s not like he’s 35 and coming off an injury or anything. I think he’s got a high likelihood to maintain at least (near) average performance levels for at least 3 years. That being said, 3/27 would be too much for me.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Would you be happier with arround instead of almost?
The main bone of contention here is not that I am unwilling to have arround average players on the 2010 or 2011 25 man but i realy don’t what the team tieing up much money or 25 roster spots for arround average. It has 1 very bad side effects.
1) there is money to keep the elite very goood players arround with.
2) It blocks the albity to use the farm as anything except a place to get pitching and try and trade position players from. If we are not willing to play our position players ourselves then why the heck should another team trade for them whn all they have to do is wait for options to run out or DFAs?
In this case the money might not be bad ( iif around $6M/year) but you are also clogging up a postion that anyone with good hands, knees and a back should be able to fill in if their stick is good. It is a bit like collecting all the #6-#8 hitter a team can then expecting have a hart of the order bat in there.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
yes.
1) 6M is nothing in baseball $.
2) There’s nothing at 1B that could even hope to be average on the farm (unless you want to drive down Neal’s value by moving him to 1B) Also, I’m not a fan of just taking someone with a good stick and handing them a 1B glove and hoping they adjust in the majors just because it’s an “easy position”.
We’re already collecting all the 6-8 hitters. LaRoche is better than a 6-8 hitter. His stick is around average for a 1B, that’s a 5 hitter at the worst.
Again – We have 4 average or above position players on the roster right now. 4. Four. There is no world in which signing another for 6M a year is a bad decision. Hell, if Bowker/Schierholtz can manage average, that’s 6/8 of the lineup. If Posey can hit at a league average level, we have ourselves an average offense!
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Re #2 i like the option open. Considering the rate otherr postions are being filled by SAbean with the over 32 crowd we will be locked up rather quickly.
As for the last paragraph I have littel qualms for th next season or two. But Again i don’t want all the spots on the lower end of the defnsive spectrem locked up with “arround average” vets or sabean with go back to his circa 2001 way on the farm again.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 31, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
well to be fair
LaRoche JUST turned 30. DeRosa’s only here 2 years, Rent is gone after this year, Sanchez is here 2 years, and we have a corner OF spot open in the meantime. The only hitter on the farm who looks like he’ll be ready soon is Neal, and he’s a September callup at the earliest IMO. And again, we have nothing at 1B on the horizon.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
true enough
But we have at least one more off season Sabean & Big Head as well. you can see my concern though right?
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 31, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Never. He's pasted in with
ctrl + Vrrrrrrooooooommmmmmm!!!!!
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 30, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I wish sabean could once just pleasantly surprise us and cut velez
or sign holliday
Or do both. OK maybe not,.That would most likely cause me to have a massive coronary and die from shock.
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
lay off those donuts
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Oh holy lord
I was just on the ESPN main page and they have a link for “Linesman’s throat slashed by errant skate”. I thought it read “Lincecum’s throat slashed” and I was scared.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Ugh, did that happen again? Those are brutal.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, pretty scary stuff. I didn’t mean to downplay what was clearly an awful occurrence, but if it had been Lincecum?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
there would be 5000 comments on the ensuing thread
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
unsee! unsee! O.O
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 30, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
What Sabean Said right after the season ended
We will pickup the option on Freddy Sanchez
We will offer salary arbitration to Bengie Molina for sure
Posey is not ready to start in the majors
We have found our starting LF in Velez and Torres platoon
The first two were lies. Here’s to hoping the last two were posturing as well.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I’d like to think that he doesn’t want to hurt Velez/Torres’ feelings by outwardly saying “Velez and Torres are going to be starting in LF if we absolutely can’t find anyone else”
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Nah i think really thinks Velez is the next coming of Rickey HEndersen
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
I think he* really thinks Velez….
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
The decision of who to drop from the 40-man roster should be the easiest one for Sabean to make this offseason. Sadly, even simple tasks are difficult for our savvy, tire-kicking GM.
Haha
the Lincecum iffy to make the rotation thing made me laugh. made me lol actually. thanks grant
needed it too. off to fucking jury duty.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Is that fucking jury-duty? Or fucking-jury duty? I mean, who is getting fucked in this situation?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
You should stand up and show everyone your jazz hands at some point during the proceedings.
by Into the Void on Dec 30, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I actually SERVED on a jury
and i thought my PhD would keep me out of them forever.
It was worse than 100 hours of Law and Order, but better than 100 hours of The People’s Court.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
asahi hands
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
jizz hands may be better than jizz pants.
Gary Darling, go DIAFF.
by The Enchanter on Dec 30, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno, you can’t actually walk late into English class with jizz hands and be unobtrusive.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Depends on your english class. My english class quite big
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
asahi what you did there
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Dec 30, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Is that cat throwing up gang signs?
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
I wish my would do that… easier to clean up after.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
i am tired of all this versatility talk from bochy. does any other manager move players around as much in the field and in the batting order? its really the sign of a bad team when your manager needs his players to play multiple positions so he can fuck with the lineup every day.
No one here gets out alive.
/ groans
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Only around the cleanup spot. Bochy’s got someone in mind for the cleanup spot already!
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
FWIW, Bork said on KNBR this morning that despite the flexibility, he is going to try to stick to a more consistent lineup day in and day out
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Bork to Sabean
FUCK YOU AND YOUR VERSATILITY, I AM GOING TO START MOLINA EVEN IF HE ISN’T HERE
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The mark of consistency: Sandoval, Sanchez, Renteria, DeRosa, Velez, Rowand, Schierholtz.
Also lots of double switches involving Ishikawa.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Ishi
Late Inning (6th inning) Defensive Replacement!
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
We will not have a platoon at first base.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I usually like a bunch of guys who describe themselves as versatile.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 30, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
/pumps fist.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully less!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Timmy as 5th starter, Grant?
Yeah, I guess he’s losing his touch.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
porcelain!
losing velocity!
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 30, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
it's brittle too
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
He’s due for a comedown.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Saving the best for last?
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE ROSTER WHEN CC SIGNS FOR A HOMETOWN DISCOUNT
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Who knows? That is going to be in like 5 years when he’s in his mid-30s
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Dec 30, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Try 40.
Then he’ll be the perfect age for Sabean & Co.
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
CC will eat the roster then.
Because he’s fat.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
But who will eat the other? Panda or CC?
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Sergio Romo will be DFA’d
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
WHAT IF I COME TO THIS SITE FOR NEWS?!?!?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
This post is an obvious ploy to incite excitement into the off season.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Who?
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
No, I don’t think he was part of that band.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I was afraid I'd never get to use this again
Zincecaingarnerchez (Zins-ě-keyn-gahrnər-chez)
1. A five-headed monster that turns grown men's legs into jelly.
by jordanovich on Dec 30, 2009 12:07 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Couldn’t Sabean just trade Fred and Frandsen for a box of doughnuts already? Or does he think the other team isn’t getting fair value for those doughnuts?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Fred is ABSOLUTELY the problem! If that guy stopped taking pitches, he’d be a part of the solution!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
NEEDZ MOAR HACKABILITY!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
He did stop taking pitches. Hard to take a pitch from the bench.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
on the contrary...
On the bench, you take every pitch. Unless you’re Bengie.
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
The donut that wrecked Witney Houston’s life?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
There is no such thing as a terrible donut.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I’m gonna need to see a graph. Filled with custard.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I am curious to know what flavor donut this is?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
hmmmmm...
I’ve always wanted to taste a Maybe
/George-Michael Bluth
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
A’s flavor.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Must taste like fail
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Tastes like A’ss.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Tastes like Reno.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Jean
reno
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Janet Reno
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Janet Gretzky
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Jackson Williams
Now we’ve brought it full circle back to the Giants
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
Jackson Browne
Running on Empty – Sabean’s favorite song
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 30, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Hey!
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
To distract you from the results by making you think about donuts. Of course.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Where’s the custard?
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Deliciousness Over Replacement Donut?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Do we use them to trip Panda or lure Lil’ fielder?
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t there a quote that came up somewhere that said that there are literally 0 teams interested in Lewis and Frandsen?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
oh my, while searching for Fred Lewis content on MLBTR, this came up from 2007
It seems the Mariners and Reds in particular are pushing for Lincecum. The Ms could offer Adam Jones; the Reds have Jay Bruce, Joey Votto, and Josh Hamilton.
The Giants and Orioles discussed Miguel Tejada, and the O’s like players such as Jonathan Sanchez, Brad Hennessey, Fred Lewis, and Guillermo Rodriguez.
And the Mets finally get their guy!
The one team inquiring on Bengie Molina was the Mets, and that was before they got Brian Schneider.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Bruce, Votto and Hamilton- that’s insane. Maybe Bruce and Hopper for Lincecum who’s an injury waiting to happen.
Posted by: trek81 | December 04, 2007 at 11:52 AM
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I kept looking for the joke (maybe Hopper is some superhero I’ve never heard of) before I realized the guy was being serious.
Dennis Hopper
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Dennis the Menace
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Menace to Society
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Don’t Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
The six degrees of “Don’t Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood”
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Lewis was also rumored to be traded for Matsui. Looking back we should have done that trade
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 31, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Career UZR/150 in LF
Fred Lewis: 10.2
Hideki Matsui: -14.4
LOL FRED SUX ON DEFENSE CANT CATCH BALL!!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
NO RBIZ!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 31, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Can't wait to see the lineups Bochy rolls out this year
should be entertaining to see Velez hit cleanup some games
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
Now batting 3rd: Velez!
and Batting cleanup: velez!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
might as well bat him there in ST, because hes gonna do well again.
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 30, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
okay
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
No
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
lolno
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 30, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
boch is a jackass but cmon have alittle faith
by BillyMaysHere on Jan 1, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
RIP FRED
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
he will be missed
by me anyway. I wanted to post a link or vid of his fabulous throw down the 3B line but couldn’t find it. One of my all-time favorite plays.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
That was a great shoestring catch and throw home
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Here is one of the throws at the plate, and for those that think Fred is “the problem”, Check these out.
Fred can play, he will be missed.
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
this was one of my favorite moments last year. Right after Uribe’s double and at the end of a stretch where it seemed like we couldn’t buy a run.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I missed this series. Isn’t this the series where Guzman DH’d as well?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
yeah. his 17 ABs or whatever. Cain had one of his best games in that series, IIRC.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Complete game win!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I have to say that this one makes the case for him being “the problem”.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I think the bullpen looks weak there.
Why is Valdez always on the Giants? It feels like he’s been on the team for 10 years. I remember how people used to say he was such a great prospect. If you look at the Yahoo Sports depth chart for the Giants, he’s the only guy with a horrible ERA.
Fangraphs claims he threw over 13% sliders last year. I do not believe it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
or he left them over the plate
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
He’s like Felix Rodriguez
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
/throws outside fastball
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
He needs to stop chewing like a maniac when he’s playing. Not everyone can be pablo, ya know!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Merkin chews? I’ve seen him chew gum, but never, well, chew.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
that’s what i meant, that giant ol wad of gum distracts him…
not really but still
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
He kinda looks like Mr. Ed when he chews his gum
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
It’s incredible how much gum he has, it makes me wonder whether it’s just a stopgap for chew chew
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Merkin is a starter stop jerking him around
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
JERKIN THE MERKIN!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 31, 2009 8:05 AM PST up reply actions
Context.
A leading prospect in the 2005-07 Giants system is not a great prospect. It just ment he floats a little better than most of the rest.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
He did look pretty damn good before he got hurt, though. He used to be higher ranked than Matt Cain.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I would like one of the following on reasonable terms:
Johnny Damon to play LF and hit leadoff, DeRosa at 3b and Panda at 1b
Adam LaRoche to bat 3 and play first, keeping panda at 3 and moving derosa to LF
Dan Uggla to bat 3 and play 2b, moving Franch to 3b and panda to 1b
Because LaRoche would keep panda at 3b, he might be my favorite option. But I’m OK with any of those three, and if any of them were gotten, I’d consider this offseason a success.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
+1
Assuming of course “reasonable terms”.
by giantsrainman on Dec 30, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Aye
Terms I would be willing to accept, pulled out of my ass:
Damon: 2/22
LaRoche: 3/20
Uggla: FLew, Frandsen, Valdez? Some combination thereof? I really have no idea on this one.
Maybe I’m overpaying, but maybe we have to to get people out here.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
overpaying? Look, the Marlins might be desperate to move Uggla, but if the Padres wouldnt trade Kouzmanoff for Lewis and Frandsen, do you think the Marlins would trade Uggla for them?
You aren’t overpaying, you’re overvaluing.
Also keep in mind that the Marlins have to know that Lewis and Frandsen are in no way part of the Giants future plans, which belittles their trade value even further.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Yeah
The ‘overpaying’ comment was more geared towards the FA money amounts.
I’m the first to admit I have no idea what it would take to get Uggla. Maybe we need to throw in some of our AAAA pitchers? Martinez? Pucetas?
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Ah, sorry for jumping on you so quickly then. I think its necessary for us to overpay for a variety of reasons. I do hope the market falls out a bit though.
Marlins seem firm on getting someone of decent quality for Uggla (J Sanchez) and hopefully that falls out too if they really can’t afford him
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I haven’t heard any discussions of that trade that do not mention Jonathan Sanchez.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
We can trade Uggla for RHP Jonathan Sanchez
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
No. The Marlins have no choice but to trade him, they cant afford his salary. Sanchez might be worth Uggla straight up, but if the Ginats are also taking on an 8 million dollar contract it would be an overpay. Not to mention, we dont even have a solid 5th starter. Contrary to popular belief, we really cant afford to trade SPs. If we trade Sanchez, who will take his spot? We could sign another pitcher, but we are on a budget.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
why would the marlins take sanchez for uggla
thats not really decreasing their payroll. Its keeping it about the same.
Marco Belinelli's Biggest Fan
but sanchez will make a lot less than Uggla
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
but next year or so theyll have to pay sanchez a good ammount of money
its like the marlins put off the inevitable: paying their players
its a never ending cycle of trading proven players who are going to get paid into great prospects that become proven players and etc.
Marco Belinelli's Biggest Fan
they're the Bizarro Giants
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
except they might have the best all around player in the game
not named pujols
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
I’d say Hanley is better “all around” than Albert since by definition it includes defense.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
well Albert is godlike in the field and I’m still not quite buying HanRam’s fielding, I’d like to see at least one season of positive UZR ( two days I realized I called it OOZR pronunciation wise and not actually saying the letters, weird)
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Pujols also plays 1B, the easiest position to field. HanRam plays the hardest position to field outside of catcher. I’m pretty sure the worst SS is still more valuable defensively than the best 1B.
Albert Pujols - MLB Network's player of the decade
Though Harold Renyolds says Bonds should be.
"meh"
but even so, short of a Cy Young season, uggla will still make more than Sanchez so it’s a salary dump anyways.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Thats who they asked for. And Sanchez is making $455,000. so I have no idea how why you think that wouldnt decrease the Marlins payroll.
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
It’s all good. No one except us wants Mole now
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
He probably wouldnt accept.
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
We could but that’s assuming Jermaine Dye doesn’t think he can’t pull off another multi year deal
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
how about we give him a one year deal
with a vesting option that guarantees the second year if he gets over 500 plate appearances/and or over 25 homers?
Marco Belinelli's Biggest Fan
NOOOOOO!!!!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
But Jermiane Dye wouldnt be
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
thats why you have a vesting option
if he does he stays if he doesnt
hes back on the market
Marco Belinelli's Biggest Fan
dye’s just not a good idea, if you want an OF, damon is pretty reasonable even though he’s also old
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
why do you think damon will play well anywhere else other than the new yankee stadium
him home/away splits show he is a very average hitter away from that park.
in that park he is a 30 homer hitter
Marco Belinelli's Biggest Fan
Because homers aren't everything
And Damon’s OBP is better than Dyes.
And Damon is a much much much better defenseman.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Yes he was
He had a good on base percentage and was a good defender.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
He put up OPS+ of 117, 110, 115, 96 and 118 in the years before last? We’re not signing him to hit 24 HR, we’re signing him to hopefully get on base at a .360+ clip and score runs.
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but giving him a 2 to 3 year deal for around 6 or 7 mil a year would be a disaster
thats the deal boras wants
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wow 2 years/12 million for Johnny Damon would not be a disaster.
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especially if he grows out that beard again
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
if he wouldnt take that deal from the yanks
why would he take it from us
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Wait
Aren’t you advocating signing Dye in this very thread?
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ya but not for 2 years 12 million
a one year 5 million incentived laced deal
with a vesting option if he does very well
Marco Belinelli's Biggest Fan
What’s the difference between 2 years, 12 million and 1 year + incentives + an easily reached vesting option?
Especially when Damon is just clearly a much better player?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
because if the incentive deal works
we know he is a better player than damon
what is preventing damon from having a huge decline
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talent
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I think it would be fairly easy for Dye to get 500-600 PA without actually being a good player next year.
And he is not a better player than Damon in any world.
HE HAS BEEN BELOW REPLACEMENT LEVEL 2 OF THE LAST 3 YEARS.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Won’t happen. Which is why Sabes needs to stay far, far away from Boras and Dye.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
BTW
The collective bargaining agreement disallows incentives based on things like HR and RBI.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
BUT DINGERZ!!11eleven!!11!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
right, but you need to listen to this:
Dye is not better than options that are free, though unpalatable – because he’s such a bad defender.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
mychal urban says hes a decent right fielder
and we can move him to first base
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he’s wrong. Dye can’t cover RF in a park that’s about as big as Don Zimmer’s pants.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
then
why not just sign Adam LaRoche for say 3/18
i just said that because im not sure what he really will sign for
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
If we don’t sign anyone then we don’t sign anyone. BowkerNateVelorres would love to take a spot in the outfield and we’d only have to pay them a few hundred thousand
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Ya can't wait
for when he gets off to a slow start and has Garkoitis in his new ballpark, and then we’ll get to enjoy three season of overpaid mediocrity. Just say no to smoking the LaRoche!!!
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 30, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
I do believe LaRoche always starts slow
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Based on what?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
i think he means his monthly splits
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
I know. I was looking for some sort of evidence.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Every other defensive metric disagrees with Urban.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
ok so move him to first
if thats the issue
or we could sign laroche to a 3/18 deal
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Dye had a 103 OPS+ last year (and 105 two year ago). Why should we want him playing first base??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Can't we just all agree
that Dye is not the answer?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently not
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
all things considered, I don’t think so
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
uh, no
dye will want a multi year deal, and even when a one year, incentive “laced” deal he would be the worst starting first baseman in baseball
Pay him in cocaine
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Not really.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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no
he’d out hit Ishi but he would be far more expensive and still be terrible defensively since he’d be learning a new position.
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I’m not even sure he’s a stone cold lock to outhit Ishi.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
honestly neither am I but I’m willing to say that it is likely.
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His bat wouldn’t justify the amount of runs he’d give back at first, still.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Urban
may be remember Dye the A, who I thought was an underrated fielder, before he broke his leg.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
LOL MYCHAEL URBAN!
He also wanted to sign Tejada. Urban is worthless.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
LOL!
The Giants need more hackers!!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Sabes, is that you?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
You missed yesterdays chat.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
I first thought ‘Yeah, that’s true’, then realized this wasn’t about Dye. I would take a small 2 year deal with Damon.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Even if he does manage to hit 25 HR or put up 500 PA (wtf, that really isn’t very many PA), it’s highly unlikely that he’ll be able to replicate it again in 2011. So actually a vesting option is even worse.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
But then why pay him at all? Speaking of in house options, I’d like to see Bowker get a rip at it, again
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Of course. Now only if he was able to do the other things
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
he gets a lot of help from that home park, and he’s pretty slow in the OF these days.
he would probably hit 20 home runs and cost our pitchers some ERA.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Plate appearances is not a good thing, cuz bochy will just keep playing him. and 25 Home runs isn’t hard if you bat cleanup over and over and over…like Molina.
I just dont think Dye is a good idea
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
so what other players on the market could have a better effect that dye
and not anything unreasonable like holliday
Marco Belinelli's Biggest Fan
You could find minor league filler that would probably have a better effect than Dye. Dude was worth -0.3 WAR last year.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Dye will probably get at least 2 years.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
LaRoche? Damon? Uggla’s not really a free agent but he’s been talked about
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Crap. I’d rather play the Velorres platoon than Dye.
Doesn’t cost anything, and you’d probably get similar production.
Not to mention Bowker, Flew.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Because we don’t have any incentive to sign him.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Marlins do have a choice. They’d probably rather move him, but 8 mil is hardly a fortune for a team that could compete this year.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
fair enough. But giving Sanchez and taking on 8 mill is too much.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
For a while, the noise was sounding like they weren’t asking for Sanchez or Bumgarner, then it turned into the Marlins demanding Sanchez. I dunno. I do know that if the Marlins are insisting on Sanchez, it should not happen under any circumstances.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Seems like it already would have happened if Sabean wanted that to go down.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
there was a previous comment about cathedral ceilings and Sabean’s stupidity.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Yeah, Sabes should definitely not trade Sanchez for Uggla, and I think if he had been willing to at this point, that deal would be done. However, if the Giants land one of the better 5th starter candidates, I think the risk goes way up that Sabean will start to see Sanchez as expendable, believing (incorrectly) that getting Uggla would help the team even if that meant YEAH JOEY would be the 5th starter.
Like top prospect yeah ;)
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Can I get in this line?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
It said that Sanchez, Tanner and a lower level prospect had all been discussed – not necessarily in a package deal or anything.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
right right thanks.
Then theres this whole thing:
Crasnick writes that the first obstacle would be financial. The Giants will have to give Tim Lincecum a major raise in arbitration and are already hamstrung by the contracts of Barry Zito and Aaron Rowand. Uggla is expected to make more than $7MM in 2010.
Of course, nobody actually knows how much money we have to spend though
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
THIS
IMO this is a byproduct of the FO’s poor management of position player prospects. They bring them up too soon, move them from position to position then send them down. Rinse – Repeat until either a) the poor kid’s confidence is shattered or b) he never gets comfortable but his stats unfairly represent him as “not good enough for the bigs”.
Either way the prospect’s value as trade bait is wasted.
If the FO had the ability to REALLY evaluate talent it would go like this:
Frandsen is raking in Fresno, but the FO knows he wont translate to the majors but they leave him down and talk him up as “a hot prospect” that we are taking a long-term approach with. Then they can use him in a trade as he still has nothing but upside since nobody has seen him against big league pitching.
Instead they bring him up and expose him and his tradeability is wasted.
One other problem that goes hand and hand with this is that the Giants were struggling so much offensively last year that they had to bring up pretty much whatever option possible from AAA to help the big league club (Downs, Rohlinger, Bowker, Guzman, Frandsen, etc etc) and didn’t have the luxury of letting anyone stay in AAA who was actually hitting
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Thank you . . .
Why do we think other teams are interested in our rejects? Come on, Uggla is a talented bat, young enough, even if he doesn’t have great hands. Play him at 1B. DeRosa in LF. Leave Panda at 3B. And understand that the Marlins are going to want talent for talent.
Don't believe everything you think.
let me ask you this.
If you wer another team why would you pay for a Giants postion prospect when you know they are not liekly to play them on the 25 man?
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
or
you can just wait for them to get cut loose, a la Rajai Davis before, and probably Fred now, and pick them up for nothing
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Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
/ nods
Basically there are 3 truths in the current MLB.
1) the Yankees will spend what they wish to spend no one will stop them.
2) A Lorria owned team would not be happy tell it has a payroll as close to
Zero as possible.
3) The Giants will only play their young pitchers.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
Talented bat!!!
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I Would Prefer Uggla Or LaRoche After Panda In The BattingOrder Not Before
My 3/4/5 would be DeRosa/Panda/LaRoche-Uggla
by giantsrainman on Dec 30, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
How awesome is it that Panda is a switch hitter in the middle of that too??
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
That's cool too.
I have no idea why I included batting order. I really don’t care where they fall in the 3-4-5
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I think Laroche is pretty much a lock
The real question is, will Bochy bench him, like he did with Garko, if he hits like crap the first 2 months(like he always seems to do)?
Why do you think he's a lock?
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Cuz superk1ng is actually Mychael Urban
no not really, because out of the remaining bats available Damon and LaRoche make the most sense
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Because superk1ng has the key.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
well, as giants fans, you start thinking ok deals as great deals relatively speaking =/
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
That's not really fair to LaRoche
He’s much better than Garko.
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Garko career wOBA: .347
Laroche career wOBA: .353
Is the upgrade really worth what we’re probably going to end up paying?
LaRoche has been worth like double the WAR for the past two years
Garko has that wOBA because he’s a platooner who’s good against LHP, so his numbers get inflated. LaRoche is much better against RHP, and is a better candidate to be a full-timer.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Double the WAR is still just a 2-2.5 WAR player. Garko was pretty damn unlucky last year, I think over a full season he could get close to 2 WAR. We’re going end up paying a lot for a guy that’s not a significant upgrade.
In His Last Four Years Garko Has Produced Just 3.6 WAR In 1713 PAs
In Thes Same 4 Years LaRoche Has Produced 8.9 WAR In 2372 PAs. Even if we are kind to Garko and assume no penalty for facing more righties and just adjust his WAR for the additional 659 PAs he only gets to 5.0 WAR. Bottom line, LaRoche is the significantly better player.
by giantsrainman on Dec 30, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
No Way Garko Is Non Tendered.
by giantsrainman on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up actions 0 recs
Why Are so Many So Willing To Conclude Already That Both Freddy Sanchez And Ryan Garko Suck?
I hear here all the time that the Giants are too quick to give up on youngsters because of bad small sample size results and yet so many of those with this complaint are guilty right now of doing the same to Freddy Sanchez and Ryan Garko. Both are in the primes and both have a much larger sample size of sucess with their previous major league teams. The fact is that the odds favor these two returning to their first half 2009 form in 2010 for the Giants.
by giantsrainman on Oct 10, 2009 4:23 PM PDT actions 0 recs
Cutting Garko Would Be Insane.
While cutting Medders and Miller would just be stupid.
by giantsrainman on Aug 24, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up actions 0 recs
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Devil's Avocado
GRM never said Garko was bad. None of those previous quotes indicate that.
But Adam LaRoche is better at baseball than Ryan Garko.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
No Conflict Between Too Good To Throw Away And Upgrade Desired As Starter
His arbitration should have been affordable for a bench player and would of been if Lincecum had not won a second CY Young thus taking this extra $3M.
by giantsrainman on Dec 30, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Not by mucho
And definitely not by the money LaRoche is looking for…
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
8.9 Vs 5.0 WAR Is Significant In My Book
Further, what LaRoche has been asking for does not matter as he ain’t getting it. The max three years at max $7M/yr he is going to get is what matters and the upgrade he represents is worth this.
by giantsrainman on Dec 30, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
LOL GRM fail again
As you know, but chose to ignore, WAR is dependent on playing time.
LaRoche’s career wRC+: 116
Garko’s career wRC+: 113
LaRoche’s career UZR/150 at first: -4.3
Garko’s career UZR/150 at first: -4.6
And yes, what LaRoche is looking for is relevant, since that’s going to hold him back from signing. Just because you say that he’ll get 3 years max at $7m/yr max doesn’t make it true.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
But Garko has benefitted from platooning
Just the fact that LaRoche hits rhp makes him more valuable 2/3 of the time.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
And LaRoche does not seem to hit tell after the All Star break. Pressumeing Big Head give him more then 100 P.A.’s to get warmed up in ( yes, that is sarcasm & kidding on the square all rolled up in one) I would call that a wash.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
Has he really now?
LaRoche v. RHP: 2534 PA; v. LHP: 696; so ~78% of his PA’s have been against righties
Garko’s % v. righties: ~72%
I mean, I guess Garko has benefited a little bit from being platooned, but it’s not like he’s seen even close to a majority of his PA’s versus lefties.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Also
If LaRoche cannot be gotten, Branyan might be an option? Less desirable, but I wouldn’t be pissed about it.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Uggla schmuggla, LaRoche....sounds french
What about Luke Scott?
Likes guns so he’ll get along with Matt Cain.
.844 career OPS, HR totals seem to be climbing nicely, a bit high on the SO totals though.
Could Balty be looking for a ton in return?
I love Scott, but I don’t think he fits on the team with DeRosa on board. I like Scott better in LF.
Jorge Cantu
WTF! wouldn’t Cantu have been a better fit than DeRosa?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
To elaborate
He isn’t any better of a hitter than DeRosa (probably worse) and he’s a horrible and much less versatile defender. Pass.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Cantu?
Can not!
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I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
no, why can’t YOU?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
If you were just to stick him at first & let Pablo play third? Maybe (not counting the players it would cost to acquire him)
As a decent hitter who can play multiple positions? No.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Jorge! Can't you see?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
OT: does someone have on hand that sabean quotation about how the giants couldn’t sign vlad cause of all the other players they signed?
thanks
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
He’s probably busy dodging alligators at the moment.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
No boiled peanuts so far
But we are having ribs, collard greens, and hoppin’ john for dinner. That’s pretty southern!
I haven’t had much time for MCC, though. We’re in this odd sort of limbo right now where we don’t have anything to do, but we also have no time.
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Hmmmmm
Well then. Let me just casually mention KIM BATISTE!
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
I hope you're not suggesting
the DeRosa and LaRoche money should have been combined to buy someone better. That would hurt Brain’s feelings.
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Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
found it
Q: Did you ever make an offer for Vladimir Guerrero?
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Guerrero or [Gary] Sheffield, we would have been without [Jim] Brower, [Scott] Eyre, [Matt] Herges, [Dustin] Hermanson, [Brett] Tomko, [A.J.] Pierzynski, [Pedro] Feliz, [J.T.] Snow, [Jeffrey] Hammonds, [Dustan] Mohr and [Michael] Tucker—obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
This
needs to become my sig.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 31, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
/headdesk
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 31, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Well I enjoy watching Uribe crush the holy hell out of hanging curveballs
So I don’t mind him back for another year.
by snafu on Dec 30, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
and his look-ma-no-hands jump in the air after a home run
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
WELCOME!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 30, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
with some luck
he could be your 2010 SS
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Oh
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions
Why am I not surprised by this:
–DeRosa had other offers, but other teams saw him more as a contingency plan. DeRosa said he always enjoyed playing in San Francisco and the Giants showed the greatest interest in him. "I was just tired of being a lot of team’s plan B," he said. "I wanted to go to a place where I felt comfortable and the team wanted me and needed me to be productive. I just felt this was a good spot. I didn’t want to wait around and get caught in a situation where I’d have to go somewhere I didn’t want to go."
The Giants outbidding and overvaluing marginal players? Go on….
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
THis sounds familiar
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
From MLB Trade Rumors
NL West Moves
Diamondbacks
* Acquired/Re-signed: Tony Abreu, Aaron Heilman, Carlos Corporan, T.J. Beam, Drew Macias, Edwin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, Zach Kroenke, Bob Howry, Jeff Bailey, Brandon Webb, Rodrigo Lopez
* Lost: Doug Slaten, Yusmeiro Petit, Alex Romero, Trent Oeltjen, Ryne White, Scott Maine, Daniel Schlereth, Max Scherzer, Josh Whitesell
Rockies
* Acquired/Re-signed: Rafael Betancourt, Matt Belisle, Randy Flores, Juan Rincon, Matt Wilhite, Ryan Harvey, Paul Phillips
* Lost: Joel Peralta, Matt Murton, Jason Marquis, Mike McCoy, Garrett Atkins
Dodgers
* Acquired/Re-signed: Doug Mientkiewicz, Carlos Monasterios, Armando Zerpa, Josh Towers, Jamey Carroll, Jon Link, John Ely, Angel Berroa, Justin Miller, Luis Ayala
* Lost: Tony Abreu, Randy Wolf, Juan Castro, Juan Pierre, Mitch Jones
Padres
* Acquired/Re-signed: Radhames Liz, Dusty Ryan, Jackson Quezeda, Chris Stewart, Chris Denorfia
* Lost: Eulogio de la Cruz, Eliezer Alfonzo, Drew Macias, Luis Rodriguez, Henry Blanco
Giants
* Acquired/Re-signed: Steve Johnson, Mark DeRosa, Tony Pena Jr., Joe Borchard
* Lost: Justin Miller, Bob Howry, Brad Penny, Ryan Sadowski
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:11 PM PST reply actions
We resigned Joe Borchard?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
So he…was a minor league free agent?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
yes
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
sorry I didn’t know
I saw him play against the River Cats and he seemed like a career minor leaguer but I suppose there’s no harm in resigning him if he doesn’t cost that much anyways
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah he will be in Fresno taking up space again.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
and Tony Pena Jr?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
weird
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
BIG SAD
I still can’t get over losing Sadowski.
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Hey he’s racking up the cash in Korea
relatively speaking
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I wish we could.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Add Uribe to the Ginats and Kelly Joihnson to the Diamondbacks
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
the dodgers and d’backs have gotten worse. I guess the Rockies are worse for having lost Marquis, even if I always expect that guy to implode. The Padres are treading water.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
yeah but they still have CarGo and Fowler who are expected to be even better this year. Fowler especially
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, I was trying to set all that kind of stuff aside. That gets complicated.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I hate the damn rockies. I hate the damn Colorado teams.
God and effing Todd Helton is a billion years old and still plays well.
I think our main problem next year are gonna be the rockies
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
You hate God?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
my mistake.
it’s supposed to be read as
(Oh my) God! and (I hate) fricking Todd Helton too! He’s a billion years old and still plays well!
ha. ha.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
They forgot about Eric Hacker!
He’s the key to winning the WS
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
And that guy that doesn't exist
from the DR
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
We’ll find out soon won’t we? He’ll probably start at Low A?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
He’s 16, so he’ll probably start in the Dominican Summer League and move to short season in the states in 2011.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Holy crap on a stick
where’d you get that info?
(not questioning you, i just couldn’t google that _)
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
It’s the usual progression and what they did with Rafael Rodriguez, if I’m not mistaken. A year of actual coaching (and continued physical maturation) in the DR, then move to the States in a low-stakes, short-season league before you toss the still-teenage prospect into a full-season league against college players.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I mean, you have to remember that the elite Latin prospects are usually 16 (or claim to be). The elite prospects in the US and Asia are 18-22. 22 is a lot older and it would be pretty unfair to expect a 16 year-old who has never been in a strength and conditioning program to succeed against guys that played at elite college programs for three or four years. Even high school kids in the US have more consistent access to coaching and exercise facilities. Plus, there are all kinds of cultural factors that make it sensible to make the transition a little more gradual than just throwing a kid into low-A ball.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
you know, I’ve never heard of any players from the DR have cultural factors or any outside factors for that matter effect his rise to the big leagues
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I’ve never heard big leaguers talk about it, either, but you’d have to think that moving to a foreign country and learning a new language while learning how to play a professional sport at a high level against other talented professionals has to be challenging. It would be interesting to what that process was like.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Ahh
I’ll miss hearing about him this year. Still, I really would like to hear a player like Omar Vizquel talk about the transition to playing in the States. I bet it would be very enlightening.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Dec 31, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What the heck is Ken Burns doing now days? He should be all over that. Do letters or interviews from a few generations running.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
He’s actually doing a “10th inning” baseball doc, not sure how it’s going though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Thanks a lot bro, I really didn’t know that
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Kelly Johnson gets one year, $2.3 million from the Diamondbacks. I think it’s pretty likely that Kelly Johnson outplays DeRosa over the next couple of years.
I mean this is rediclolous
- Kelly Johnson is about as good as Freddy Sanchez, and is 4 years younger.
- Ryan Garko is about as good as Mark DeRosa (maybe better, considering DeRosa pushes Pablo to 1B), and is 6 years younger.
- Milton Bradley is about as good as Johnny Damon (who apparently people want us to sign), and is 4 years younger (though more injury-prone).
Kelly Johnson costs $2.3M (and would have almost definitely signed for, say, 2 years $7M). Ryan Garko will cost about $2.5M (and would have signed for 2 years $7M). Bradley will cost $6M over two years and a shitty pitcher.
Freddy Sanchez will cost $12M over two years. Mark DeRosa will cost $12M over two years. An optimistic projection for Damon is $14M over two years (what the Yankees offered him).
Our optimistic projection is that we’ll only pay $38M over two years for what we could have easily had for $20M and a shitty pitcher.
Unless shitty pitchers are the new market inefficiency, that’s $9M a year wasted on nothing. That money is what it would cost to sign the top-3 Latin prospects available both this year and in 2011.
I was promised lasagna.
I keep seeing the words Ridiculous and Caliber spelled wrong. I only started noticing it in the last month, but it bothers me.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
It bothers the hell out of me, as well, and has done so for about a year.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Year of spelling dangerously.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
With Mel Gibson?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
D-A-N-G-E-R-O-U-S-L-Y
So what’s next year’s word?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I always see them improperly capitalized.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 31, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
I was just emphasizing them as Words and was too lazy to use quotes or italics.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
And I’m apparently not going to stop doing it either.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
hLOLowtheyscored
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 31, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
I know… it’s just been bugging me. Why do people spell it Calibur?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Soul Calibur!!!
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Or I guess from Excalibur?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
THE SOUL STILL BURNS
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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OT
I don’t want to speak too soon, but I think my computer is fixed!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
No more spinny rainbow wheel?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve had it on for a couple hours now and not a one. And Firefox is running perfectly!
It took completely wiping the hard drive clean and the reinstalling everything, but I’ll take it!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I get the wheel sometimes but only for a few seconds. I just think I need to increase my RAM.
Keep you fingers crossed!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Before, it was every 15-30 minutes and it lasted about a full 1-2 minutes, so I feel like I’m kind of standing on pins and needles waiting for it to happen, but so far, so good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Say no to the technicolor sphincter!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
did you check the disc with the diskutils while you were reformatting it? that happened to me once, and it was a hard drive that was failing
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Well, at first when we were checking the disk, it didn’t show up anything bad. But we were trying to just reinstall OS X and Snow Leopard last night, but the Software Update somehow got screwed up and whatever was wrong with the Hard Drive finally became obvious (it flat out said it was corrupted, said Disk Util couldn’t fix it, etc). So we wiped it clean to factory settings and reinstalled everything and it’s been running great since then.
You were, of course, right all along! And I have to thank you, without your advice, we might not have known what direction to go in. (And I’m glad we ended up fixing it ourselves.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
What's a "network controller"?
MY last OS transfusion seems to have come up without one.
My govt. IT guy said there’s be issues with repeated washings, but what’s a (broke) mother to do?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 31, 2009 1:12 AM PST up reply actions
I guess it won’t be having any little computers now.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
JUAN URIBE
AS I SUSPECTED
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
In the library with the candlestick?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
In the clubhouse with the buffet tongs.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Dec 30, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Ouch
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
In the clubhouse with the hair clippers
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Communism is a red herring.
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lol!
the RSS feed for McC on my yahoo page has a little pic and it’s just the horse beaters arm going up and down.
amusing.
Via Steve Frisaro on MLB.com
The DeRosa signing certainly seems to put to rest any speculation that the Giants are still interested in Uggla. Now, the Giants are still searching for a power bat, but Uggla doesn’t appear to be a fit. I expect the Marlins to be very active in January, re-signing their arbitration-eligible players and exploring trades for Uggla and reliever Renyel Pinto.
There remains a chance Uggla can sign with the Marlins, but even if it reaches that point, look for the club to still explore trade options. The closer we get to the start of Spring Training, the more willing teams may be to make a deal. It will be interesting to see if the Marlins sign Uggla, bring him to Spring Training and look to complete a trade before Opening Day. Once teams are in Spring Training, there may be some injuries that re-open a market for Uggla.
How does someone with seemingly no knowledge of baseball write for MLB.com
Yeah
Uggla is just as good a fit as any other infielder… that’s the point of VERSATILITY
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I’d love Uggla in the lineup if only because he provides some “threat”, a poor man’s Jason Bay if you will, relatively speaking.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
by my calculations...
IF Uribe’s deal is in the $4m range
Than the Giants payroll NOT COUNTING Lincecum, Wilson & Dirty’s salaries is at approx $70 million dollars.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
*Then, dammit
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I think the following progression is likely:
dump Lewis and Frandsen
send Bowker to AAA,
sign Reed Johnson to platoon with Schierholtz.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Does Bowker still have options?
I thought he was out, but I could be misremembering.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Maybe you’re right. I am not sure how to find that out, though.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
By my count, he still has one, but I don’t have confirmation on that.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 30, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Assuming he was not put on the 40-man roster until 2008 when he was called up for the first time, he still has an option left. He would not have needed to be added to the 40-man roster until after the 2007 season (started at S-K in 2004), so it seems pretty clear that he must have an option left.
It shouldn’t matter because he should be getting plenty of major league PAs. But it is the Giants, so since they’re not going to play him anyway he should go to Fresno and work on carrying the mail.
I think that Bowker deserves another shot, even if his batting average and power don’t miraculously return, if he can lay off those breaking balls, he’ll get on base much easier
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
OT
Matt Holliday won’t talk to anyone offering less than 18m a year
GIT R DUN SABES!
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
If he would do like 4 at 18 per, I would be interested, but I’m pretty sure he wants 6-8 years which NO
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I'd consider 4 or 5 years
but nothing beyond that
"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"
Super Rodgers Bros.
#52
por que?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
There seem to be a ton of people here with some form of Monta in their user name.
by Into the Void on Dec 30, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Is monta a player? forgive my ignorance haha
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Is that a sports team of some sort?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
lulz
thanks for that
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
Joke’s on them when he gets traded in a year!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
No, that’s Monté … at least that’s what I hear. Surely Monta isn’t pronounced Monté.
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Antawn Jamison and Brett Favre would like a word with you.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Chaos!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 31, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Yo
The rockies are gonna sign Olivo to a one year deal
I don’t think he poses much of a threat to us
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 5:39 PM PST reply actions
ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
Haha that crosses one guy off your list, don’t it?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
A reason Uribe contract and removal the threat Olivio threat in the same day? This day has not equal in this off season!
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
On his career
Olivio has 2 more walks than home runs.
2!
What the fuck is that?
And that’s WITH 12 IBBs! Fucking awful.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Now you begin to see why i fear him on this team?
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
Correct
Jax will take Posey place as the bullpen catcher and Posey will have the new position of starting catcher
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Believe the brother will never see a day at the major league level.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
I think he will, but it may take 2 seasons at fresno. I don’t think he’ll stick. Eli Whiteside style.
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yamid Haad stylee!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Dec 31, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
OT!
Listening to KNBR….
And this caller is going on about Eli Whiteside and how good he was. It makes me wonder. I think 90% of the people who call into talk radio shows to discuss baseball have horrible, horrible opinions. Is this one of those “everyone is a terrible driver but me” type of things — or are these people really just stupid?
I’ve only called in to KNBR once and that was to bitch about the stupid decisions Bochy’s made. I had to sit through some horrible ideas people had about the Giants’ lineup until my call was answered, so I’d say, yes, people really are that stupid.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 30, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
People are stupid. I’ve always found that the people who are most stupid are always the quickest to give their opinion.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
I think it has something to do with not thinking before they speak
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
No, I usually turn off KNBR whenever they start taking calls.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants need to DO SOMETHING /Damon Bruce
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Oh like you could go onto the radio show for 5 days a week and figure out something to talk about… he’s just stirring the pot, getting people to talk
I do not aspire to be a radio host. Irrelevant.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps it would be easier for Damon if he actually knew about baseball before spewing a bunch of crap.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
I listen for
the Indiana U. sportsbar reviews.
Actually, he’s the ONLY host I immediately turn off, and given the lineup there (including the occasional FP appearance) that’s saying something.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 7:46 AM PST up reply actions
I mean, it’s not really saying something if you say it… IM JUST SAYING… but i listen to the show, obviously any guy doing a sports show is going to say something about how their sports teams are awesome… I don’t mind it, i’m a big 10 fan… not an Indiana fan, but a MIchigan fan, so it’s good to listen to something OTHER than Bay Area sports for a bit
it’s not really saying something if you say it
Yes, it is.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
That continues to mean nothing.
If you say it, own it. The words have left your lips. You said it.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Haha, just because he/she turning a show off is saying something… doesnt mean it means something to me… Doesnt say anything to me if he/she turns the show off
Yes, it does. It says to you that she doesn’t like the show.
Words mean things, PiKA. This is the point I am trying to make.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
reminds me of
`The question is,’ said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
`The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master — that’s all.’
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
fail
I heard a half hour, and several calls, about sports bars in Bloomington as he re-lived his college days.
Boring midwest sports talk is boring. Ignorant sports talk is ignorant. The other guys are either covering some team or other (Fitz and Brooks), former jocks (Gary and Tolbert), or a broadcaster (Ralph). Dumbon has nothing to recommend him. With the exception of the morning frat boys, no one talks so much about “irrelevant” teams.
I think he’s the worst about screening callers too; I suspect he HAS to take some of them because his board is empty. The morning frat dudes have the same problem but fewer drunk callers.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
I like Murph. Mac is about as useless an on-air personality as there ever was.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
meh
Too much golf, and they spent one morning talking about ball-shaving and vasectomies, which was the last time my radio alarm went off to them.
But they come off as actual fans of the teams they cover, particularly the Niners. And they sound awake at 5 or whenever they come on, which is good since they’re pretty much not going to get any callers.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I actually seem to only like Murph and Mac when they’re not talking about sports. Murph’s interviews are painful, and he’s always trying to either give an awful nickname to a local player that he likes or to unfairly criticize a local player that he doesn’t like.
Luckily, they go off on lots of tangents, so that keeps it relatively fresh, and there bits can be funny. I do wish they wouldn’t rely so much on their soundboards, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty much, Fitz covers the Irish… Brooks is LSU…
But honestly, i don’t care about it. That’s just my opinion, there can only be so much talk about Bay Area sports… i like the diversity in what they talk about, where they cover the national sports talk and yea, Gary can get a little off topic and shows off a ton. But honestly, it doesnt bother me one bit since i would get very bored if every call that came in was about “oh yea, the giants need a hitter…” blah blah blah…
So with Damon, don’t care if he talks about Indiana, i’ll just sit in the car and talk about how they suck, because IU has not done shit in the past couple years, they blow in Football and basketball lately hasn’t been good
I would respect Damon Bruce if he actually believed what he said. I don’t think he does. He is saying it just to say it.
"meh"
that’s where you have the option of changing the station for a bit… there can be tooooo much KNBR, that’s where i switch it to live 105, or something like that
I haven’t listened to Bruce in years. I mean I might catch a few minutes, like I did today when I couldn’t get to the radio fast enough… but no. There are some real controversial issues in sports: salary caps, overtime rules, head shots, BCS, instant replay, playoff structures, ideal rosters etc etc… you don’t need to make up a bunch of bullshit just to stir a fictional pot.
I’m sorry my feeling is that if you get PAID to be informed about sports and talk about them for a living… you should spend your time trying to discuss actual issues, not ones you pull out of your ass to piss people off.
that's kind of the KNBR schtick
Gary doesn’t talk about sports much, if at all, either. But he does that by talking nonsense rather than “pretending” to be dumb.
I think the midday show is the most sports-focused one, but in general I think it’s supposed to be beer commercial guys swilling in the basement with their “bros”; the programs let those who lack that aspect in their life can tune in for a while to listen.
Dumbon B. isn’t even good for that; he’s the guy everyone moves away from at the bar so that they don’t have to hear his “opinions”.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno
Ralph is more blowhard than idjit. He has an MBA! From Penn!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
Eh, only about 1% of the people listening to a talk show ever even try to call in. My favorites are the regulars who use crappy nicknames and seem to have a prepared statement to read off once they are on. I hate Jim Rome so I don’t listen often but his callers are the worst/best.
RACK THAT GUY!
Gary says every word on Rome is scripted. FWIW, especially since Mr. Radish pretty much does the same show on radio and TV every day (“like I said on KRON last night…”).
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't say most people are stupid
But all people know very little about most things. I mean, of all the fields there are, in how many would you consider yourself a relative “expert”? I basically got baseball, musical theory, and Israeli history (I’d add Premier League Football, world geography, and American history, but that’s already kinda pushing it). That’s nothing. In everything else, I’m a complete moron.
I was promised lasagna.
Sexpert.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
Well I’ll be damned.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 2, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
And from what I've experienced
Most people could learn so much more in their areas of “expertise.” It’s ridiculous the amount of information and knowledge that’s out there.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Fred Claire:
DeRosa comes to the Giants after three straight trips to the playoffs, twice with the Chicago Cubs and last year with the Cardinals. DeRosa’s knack for getting into postseason play clearly wasn’t lost on Sabean. After all, that’s where he wants to find his Giants in 2010.
OMG GUYS WE ARE HEADING TO THE PLAYOFFS!
Fred Claire was a member of the Los Angeles Dodgers from 1969-98, serving the team as Executive Vice-President and general manager. He is the author of “Fred Claire: My 30 Years in Dodger Blue” This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
If we’re going by that, then the Nationals are also going to the playoffs since they signed Jason Marquis
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
He is the author of "Fred Claire: My 30 Years in Dodger Blue"
Well of course he wrote that…who else would?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Seaplane Lawyer!
They probably interned together with the Gashouse Gang
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
After all, that’s where he wants to find his Giants in 2010.
As opposed to all the other GMs, who want their teams to suck.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
You know, in Claire’s defense, many people may not understand that the Giants are actually aiming for the post-season.
I mean, Sabean’s extension, Bochy’s extension, our handling of position player prospects, recent trades, the organization’s penchant for old, declining players… If I didn’t know any better, I’d say we’re trying to dodge the post-season.
IF ONLY IT WERE FOOTBALL THEN IT WOULD REALLY BE TEH WIN!!11!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Oregon should stomp tOSU
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Kind of like Notre Dame
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
And yet people are always talking about putting them in BCS games at the start of every season.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
and drunk
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Because it’s OSU, ohio state is football, so i mean there’s a problem if they’re not good, it’s like USC when they suck
This is one of the few problems I have with college sports. The national media seems to think there’s a problem with the whole sport (or conference) if the power teams aren’t any good or aren’t as good as the national media says they [the teams] are. I don’t think that’s a problem. I think it’s good because then we get to see different teams in the big games and get to learn about other coaches and programs. But Dr Lou disagrees with me, so I must be wrong.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yep, pretty much THIS. I have no idea how USC got into the top 25, they didn’t deserve it… OSU did not deserve being that high in the top 25… but college football needs the big named teams to get people to watch the games. I also want to see the smaller schools in some of these bowl games… Bowling green Idaho? That was a good game
Could have kicked a PAT to tie it and go to OT but the Idaho coach decided to go for 2 and the win.
"meh"
Yes, the decision paid off. It makes sense—go for 2, and you probably have a ~70% chance of making it; go for the tie, and you probably have a 50% chance of winning.
Sure. It’s a strategy to minimize the blame for when it fails. Honestly though, what’s the percent chance of converting on something like 4th and 2 or where you just need two yards—70%? That would suggest that going for the deuce is always the better play, given that 70% * 2 points = 1.4 points gained (on average), rather than ~ 100% * 1 point < 1.4 points.
Obviously the deuce is the higher variance play, but if I had to guess, it’s probably the right one (at least numbers wise).
remember
THE Ohio State University is one of the biggest in the country; that’s a lot of alumni pumped out every year. Plus, there’s no pro football teams in the state for anyone to follow (Merope will never find this comment buried here anyways).
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 7:56 AM PST up reply actions
I agree. I dont really think you can say one group of fans is smarter or meaner than another. Except ive heard Philidelphia fans are terrible.
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Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 31, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
I dont really think you can say one group of fans is smarter or meaner than another.
I don’t know – I think teams do tend to form cultures around them. You’d be hard-pressed, for example, to find Pirates fans as arrogant as some Yankee fans tend to be, for example.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I meant in Ohio
but I’m surprised there are a lot of Steelers fans there, if that’s what you’re saying.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Yep. And having sucky teams will do that. In fact, there are more Detroit Tigers fans in these parts than you’d initially think, as well.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I actually used to like Detroit when they sucked… But then a ton of fans showed up when they went to the playoffs a few years ago…. that’s when i said, fuck Detroit
That happens to all teams, including the Giants.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
But to speak specifically to the Steelers
Pittsburgh is only 30 min or so from the eastern border of Ohio, and lots of people in Central Ohio are appalachian transplants who left to find work once the steelmills closed.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I agree dude, you’re in Columbus, so you totally understand the fact that NOBODY is really a Browns fan, and Bengal fans are just starting to show up right now
so
I take it the new fake Browns didn’t pick up all the old Browns fans? Or do people in Central OH just not like Cleveland?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 1, 2010 7:13 AM PST up reply actions
Umm, people in central Ohio just dont like Cleveland, and who would, they suck… Bengals have been slightly more successful, since Cleveland have lost their team once in the past
twice
your Cleveland Rams
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 1, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
it really makes no sense
Every year the big ten goes to the rose bowl or the national championship to get a giants beat down and every year the national media acts like the big ten is THE conference behind the sec. It really is a shame we never got to see the Florida USC matchup in the last 3 that would have been the true national championship game
i hope so! i can’t stand the fucking Buckeyes, i’m a Wolverine fan myself… but also a fresno state fan… i’m almost forced to watch Cal football, it sucks
Only Kevin Riley and most of the defense.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
That’s not true at all. They weren’t a top 25 team this year, but they’ve deserved to be nationally ranked pretty much every year that Tedford has been here outside of this one. This year they lost a lot of people on defense and on the offensive line, and Kevin Riley played about 10% as well as anybody thought he was going to. If any of those areas improve, and they’re more than likely to improve, they’ll be in the top 25 again next year.
On top of which, Vereen really came of age this year, the receivers got a lot better over the course of the year, and as far as I know Best hasn’t decided to leave yet.
The future of the program is fairly bright.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Is/was Mr. Riley projected to make it to the NFL? I don’t follow these things.
by non sequitur on Dec 30, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
I think that before this year he was on long-term radars, but he struggled to win the job last season from what can only be described as a damaged Nate Longshore, and then even accepting his struggles last year this was the year that he was should have started to fulfill his potential.
Unfortunately, he crumbled against virtually every quality opponent he faced and pretty much looked terrible outside of a few select moments. His QB rating at the end of the year? 128.7. Just shows how terrible that stat really is.
He definitely has the talent to succeed in college, and he has occasionally played up to it, but he’ll have to make pretty extreme strides next year to make it back onto anybody’s draft board.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Neither am I at this point.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve argued that Vereen this year was even better than (healthy) Best was this year. If both come back next season it’s going to absolute chaos on the ground.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
i wish they’d do more wildcat plays, with both vereen and best. they really need to get the ball into their playmakers’ hands. the best thing is that there really us no dropoff from best to vereen
Top 25? oh NICE! I’m just trying to find a team they’ve played top 25 out of conference… i’m just wondering. I would hope that Best would stay an extra year since he didn’t have the opportunity to play a few games due to concussions
You act like non-conference schedules are typically grueling for good teams. Of the top five teams in the nation, only Alabama played a ranked non-conference opponent. I guess all of those teams really suck, too.
And off the top of my head, in the last few years Cal has played Tennessee more than once. So there’s at least one.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
WIth Alabama though, they have SEC, so i mean, every team they play is just top 25… But see, with CAL, i just feel every year it’s some dumb bowl game, like the Pacific life holiday bowl… or the one they went to this year… I haven’t seen them play in a big bowl game in a while.
Almost half of the Pac-10 was in the top-25 this year, and more than half of the conference appeared in the top-25 at one point. In fact, The Pac-10 had more top-25 teams this year than the SEC did.
As far as Cal and bowl games goes, the fact that they haven’t made a major bowl isn’t really a valid knock against them. They’ve knocked on the Rose Bowl’s door a few times this decade, and they’ve come a hell of a long way from the absolute futility that were the Tom Holmoe years.
Also consider the fact that they still don’t have modern or adequate athletic facilities for the team, nor do they have the money or the clout of USC, and the program is really doing quite well.
I never said they were a top-10 team. They’ve probably only been a top-10 team once in the recent past. But a top-25 team? Oh yeah, they’ve been that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Well, for some reason i don’t see CAL in a big bowl game, that is what i’m saying. But this is true considering the fact they have come a long way, i haven’t really followed the program much.
They do need a new stadium, or a renovate it.
They were a top 10 team a few times haven’t they? But what i think is disappointing is that i never see them in a big bowl game, is it the fact they cant finish? or what’s up with it
It’s more likely just the fact that there aren’t that many big bowl games, and that the one Cal has the best chance of ever getting to is the Rose Bowl. With USC in conference, it’s been very difficult for any Pac-10 team to make a Rose Bowl appearance just because lately (this year excluded), if USC isn’t in the National Championship, then they are in the Rose Bowl.
The other part is that they haven’t had consistent QB play since Aaron Rodgers. Ayoob was a disaster, Longshore looked like an absolute stud before he ripped his ankle into tiny little bits, and he never seemed to recover psychologically from that, and Riley ended up being a massive disappointment this year. Really, with the poor QB play the team has had since Rodgers, it really is a testament to the strength of the defense and the running game that they’ve been so highly ranked the last few years.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Got it… I mean, i am getting sick of the same thing ever year, it’s always USC in the rose bowl, but finally this year it’s Oregon… Cal just ends up in the same bowl, which is not a BCS bowl game like what the Rose Bowl is… but anyway, you’re basically talking to a guy that’s a Michigan fan, and boy, that’s a very bad situation with Rich Rod… plus a Bulldog fan… the Redhawks? they just flat out SUCK
I think the problem is that the pre-season polls consistently over rank Cal. Everyone should know that this team is not going to be good with Riley as the Quarterback, he just simply can’t get it done. He has not had one good game against a quality opponent.
by aaroncallagher on Dec 31, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
The Pac-10 was pretty weak this year compared to some of the other years in the recent past, but it’s one of the premier conferences in the nation.
It wouldn’t benefit so much financially from the BCS if it wasn’t.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Brian Sabean should have run DeRosa in.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
He needed to pad his stats so he decided to throw DeRosa instead.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m just being an ass hole to everybody out here since ALOT of people here love the Pac 10, when we talk basketball? it’s all about Saint Mary’s
Shockingly, I take issue with your stance re: the Pac-10.
Pac-10 went 5-0 in bowls last year. This year they’re laying big, fat eggs all over the place.
At least the poor football performance is distracting the country from the abomination of a basketball season this year. Yeesh…
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
So ummm, your Pac-10 is SUCKING THIS YEAR, that sucks… GO SAINT MARY’S, hopefully they go to the tourny this year… Bennett is a neighbor where i live at
Wow. Really good coach and PiKAgiant neighbor. Who knew?
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Hey, the Pac-10 still has Stanford and Oregon to go this year. Redemption can still be had.
And UCLA DID win their bowl game.
/weak argument.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
The teams didn’t play this year….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, are we talking about basketball? I thought we were still talking about bowl games.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
OT: Barry Bonds
Do you ever think we’ll see another player who posts a 1.0+ OPS one year and can’t get a contract the next?
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Maybe if you include guys with, like, fewer than 10 plate appearances for the year.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
You can’t because that will mean the player will walk a lot. You can’t have that, cheating the game and all.
"meh"
Bonds: not a true Giant because he lacks gritty veteran gamerness.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Also, cheats the game. True Giants never cheat the game.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Also, not versatile. All great Giants know how to suck while playing multiple positions.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
New for 2010
bigger lockers, so they can all fit their multiple fielding gloves. You know, the ones made of iron.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
:D
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 31, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Get your mind out of the gutter.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
REALLY THIS IS 1ST PLACE HAS NO ONE LOOKED AT JUAN URIBE STATS. AND ADAM LAROCHE WAS ON THE BRAVE NOT THE PIRATES HIS BROTHER ANDY PLAYS FOR THE PIRATES. IF YOU GUYS READ UP ON HOLLIDAY HE DOESNT LIKE IT IN SF. DEROSA IS NOT BAD BUT HE IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE LINE UP THAT MUCH BETTER THERE STILL NEED TO BE A LEAD OFF HITTER VELEZ HAD ABOUT TWO GOOD WEEKS AND THEN FELL OFF. WHO IS GOING TO HIT 3RD SANCHEZ IS NOT A 3 HOLE GUY AND THEY SHOULD OF HELD OFF ON SIGNING HIM SO FAST BECAUSE WE COULD OF HAD HUDSON WHO IS A GOOD LEAD OFF HITTER AND HE HAS A GOOD GLOVE . ROWAND NOT A 3 HOLE GUY EITHER HE IS MORE 6TH OR 7TH EVEN THOUGH SABEAN PAYS HIM LIKE A CLEAN UP HITTER. EDGAR IS MUCH OF ANYTHING ANYMORE SO WHERE DOES HE GO
Edgar isnt* much of anything
just sayin’
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
SO YOU’RE NOT SAYING!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
I’m just saying so you’re not saying.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
BUT I"M JUST SAYING
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 31, 2009 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
Shut up
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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WHAT ARE YOU SAYING MAN?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
SAY IT DON’T SPRAY IT
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
but thats what im saying!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 31, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
I get it!
Grant is really a reflection of us, as we are a reflection of him!
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Boy, are we ugly!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Hey, speak for yourself.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
Man, that is one creepy kid… where’d you get that picture?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
My sister scanned it and posted it on her facebook.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
It’s funny how people actually write like this. This paragraph would take most people a lot of effort to be able to write so horribly.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 31, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Super non-credible rumor of the twitter world
Former Mariners 3B Adrian Beltre headed to NL West team. http://bit.ly/5ep76T #MLB #Rumors #freeagency #money #NL
8:34 AM Dec 29th from web
The link has nothing to do with this rumor, so I consider this supreme unsubstantiated rumor of no linkage.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
Interesting
On good terms, I wouldn’t mind Beltre, really. I’d rather have LaRoche, but whatever.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
As for why
His defense is awesome, and it pushes DeRosa to LF. He seems like a decent chance at an offensive rebound post-testicular-destruction, as well as the fact that he’d be moving to a more hitter-friendly park.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Haha
The price tag does scare me, admittedly. But he’s not one of those guys who’s a bad idea at any cost (like Dye or Pods). Beltre would be good at some costs, at least.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
by GiantPain on Dec 31, 2009 1:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Just looked it up
and the guys only 30, which for this team is a baby. Kinda surprised me considering how long he’s been around. I guess I’m tentatively for it.
Valid points btw
Santiago is only 44, get it done Sabean
by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Dec 31, 2009 1:58 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he came up early
I wouldn’t give him more than 3 years, but I wouldn’t be mad about giving him 3 years.
When a dude manages 2.4 WAR with offense as shitty as his was last year, he’s doing a lot of stuff right.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I never paid - when he's done with the horse will he come after me?
Beat me, Big Daddy – eight to the bar…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 31, 2009 1:06 AM PST reply actions
Hey i don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but
Derosa wants to play shortstop?
The Associated Press reports San Francisco Giants IF Mark DeRosa cited pitching as a main reason why he signed a two-year contract with the organization. ‘That was one of the big overriding factors when I decided where wanted to play, the pitching factor,’ DeRosa said. ‘Pitching wins games.’ DeRosa also indicated a desire to play primarily at shortstop, although he said he is comfortable playing wherever asked.
Santiago is only 44, get it done Sabean
by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Dec 31, 2009 2:22 AM PST reply actions
That was a joke, I think. He’s played a little SS in the majors, but he’s well below average as a second baseman, so I’m pretty sure he’s an awful shortstop. He could play there in the type of situation where Pedro Feliz plays catcher and Noah Lowry is in RF.
I’m pretty sure he’s an awful shortstop
So, you’re saying he’s an upgrade? I agree! Get him in there posthaste!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions
It’s probably not a good thing that the DeRosa shortstop idea made me immediately like the signing more.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
why not Vladimir Guerrero?
for LF – give him a one contract with an option
"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
lolwut
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 31, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Re: sig—we or you?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I was once shown the light in my butt, but I had to look at it in a mirror with a pair of polarized lenses after having my eyes dilated. So, based on that, I’m pretty sure it means “we.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah! He’ll be our DH
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 31, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 31, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Giants can win 93 games in 2010
This lineup could win the NL West?
Rowand should bat first
Sanchez should bat second
Sandoval should bat third
DeRosa should bat fourth
Uribe should bat fifth
Bowker or Schierholtz should bat sixth
Posey or Whiteside should bat seventh
Edgar should bat eight
Mark DeRosa
your cleanup hitter for the San Francisco Giants
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I just saved a lot of money
on car insurance Giants tickets and MLB TV packages!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions
It doesn’t really matter where you put the deckchairs.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 5:58 AM PST up reply actions
feng shui
You might want demons swirling around your cruise ship mister, but I’ll thank you to stay away from mine.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
As long as the stairway doesn’t flow right out the front door, or the stove doesn’t face the sink directly, the deckchairs can be placed where they damn well please!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 8:03 AM PST up reply actions
Feng shui? Is thta like a nose goblin?
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
Feng shui
It means people will believe anything.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Actually...
I stopped believing everything once I moved my coffee table to the other side of the room.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
YOOOOOOOUUURR HEEEEEEERE
THERES NOOOOOOOOOOOTHING I FEAR
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 31, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Which Byrd?
Paul or Marlon?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
Larry.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Big.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Robert.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Stop using my brain.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Admiral.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 31, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
omg WHY ARE YOU KEEPING HIM UP PAST MIDNIGHT this is a travesty
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 31, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
The Cubs had been discussing a trade for Pat Burrell, and Robert Byrd and he probably have similar range in LF.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
They should have just kept Milton Bradley.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
GIS Locker Room Chemistry (#2)
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Now the Cubs can all sing happily around a campfire as Marlon is putting up lesser numbers than Milton.
YAY CLUBHOUSE CHEMISTRY!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
That’s not half bad for the Cubs.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
This irritates me because you may be correct.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
If the Giants sign Pods...
It’s gonna be Ishikawa vs. Bowker vs. Lewis vs. Schierholtz vs. Torres vs. Velez in ST
Sandoval would hit no matter where he was in the lineup.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Because in general you want your best hitter to hit fourth. And now that Bengie Molina is gone, Sandoval is clearly our best hitter.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
You obviously haven’t taken the Bork factor into account
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I’ve actually never heard that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, thats’ the stathead CW.
for example see who the lineup optimizer usually has batting second
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
The 4th hitter will have the most ABs with runners on base.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 31, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Runners on what now?
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Base, (n): the lower part of a wall, pier, or column considered as a separate architectural feature
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I always thought convention was you wanted the dingerz guy fourth and your best pure hitter third… Clark/Mitchell, so to speak.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I usually consider third and fourth to be relatively interchangeable for “best hitter placement”. I don’t mind if somebody prefers having Sandoval bat third. It could very well be marginally better than having him bat fourth. But to be really distressed that he’s being asked to bat cleanup instead of third seems like a major overreaction to me.
And for what it’s worth, Sandoval is our best dingerz guy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
I think the guys who wrote “The Book” did an analysis that stated that the best hitter on the team should bat 2nd. Of course a lineup should be constructed in a descending OBP manner, so I don’t know how these two ideas jive.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 31, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 31, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, and there is a HILARIOUS Tony Pena, Jr. reference in there (if you are a disgruntled Giants fan – I know you are!!!)
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 31, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
deckchairs
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
Yes, Sandoval should be out third and fourth hitter… I was talking more generally about conventional wisdom.
I actually like him slightly better at third mainly for the extra at-bats and because I’d like him to have the attitude of ‘hit line drives all over the park’ rather than ‘hit it over the wall’, but it’s nothing I’d get worked up over, certainly…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
This
I also lean towards him batting 3rd fro teh reason it might be possible to find 2 batters that get on base at decent clip ( even if rideing the hot hand) in the current crop of Gaitns. I have big problems thinkg the current crop has 3 such hitters to stick in front of Panda.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 31, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
5 mil a year for Byrd
is a pretty good deal
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
But he doesn’t need to be as good as he was for Texas to be worth $5 mil a year. That’s market value for, like, a barely over 1 WAR player. Arlington or not, I think he’s likely to be worth more than ~1.1 WAR a year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah, but even in the last year of it, $5 mil isn’t a backbreaking number.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
3 years, 30 mil would be risky – 3 years, 15 mil is hardly risky, especially not for a team with the Cub’s payroll
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
OT: Has anyone layed new Super Mario Bros Wii?
HOLY SHIT BOWSER IS ANGRIER THAN EVER
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I haven’t gotten to Bowser yet.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah I just beat the game. Definitely didn’t go for 100% or anything though. I skipped through as much as possible cause I was getting tired of it
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
The part of me that can’t help being anal is forcing to me get all big coins and unlock all warp cannons as I go. So I’m progressing slowly. I also don’t have much time to play. If it was February, I’d have all the time in the world. But no….
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Ugh so apparently there is some world you can only get to if you complete the game 100%? I really don’t want to do that now
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
This is why I do it as I go.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
You unlock levels by collecting all the Star Coins in a World. There’s are eight bonus stages, one for each world.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I am pretty sure Natto has
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
also, why does Toad have to be so fucking careless to get caught/trapped so often then whine like a little bitch to be saved?!?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
EVERY TIME i try to do something, i have to hear him scream for help, it’s bullshit, it’s like Toad, get a life and stop getting in trouble
Its fun when the levels aren’t super obnoxious. I think now that I beat it I don’t want to ever play it again. Maybe I’ll try out the coop mode though
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I haven’t got past world 2. And each time I ‘die out’, it makes me start with 2.1 all over again. I HATE 2.1!
I mean, I think my kid likes it.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I love it
I have beaten it, and have only unlocked one level on rainbow world (you have to collect every coin in one world to unlock the corresponding level). However, this game is more of a party game than any other mario platformer.
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Jan 1, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
BOO STANFORD HOORAY PAC-10!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Fear the tree, Howie. Fear the tree.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
That third-grade arts and crafts project haunts my dreams.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
That was a debate I was having with my brother while we watched the Cal game. He wanted them to do well for the Pac-10 to do well, and I wanted them to lose because I thought it was enough like Giants-Dodgers, and obviously we don’t root for the Dogs to make the NL West look good.
Lethargy
It has me
I think the difference is that the Pac-10 looking good is actually good for Cal. The NL West looking good means less than nothing for the Giants.
I can swallow my pride and take a Stanford victory if it means that Cal is recognized to have had success over a stronger group of teams. Because that gets reflected in the polls next year.
However, I won’t cry in my soup if they lose.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Honestly, i don’t know why i’m not a fan of CAL, but i had to deal with a ton of people here in the east bay talking about how good CAL was, and i just got so sick and tired of it. So i decided to be a Michigan fan… plus i love Ann Arbor… but dude, i couldn’t stand CAL growing up
Eh… lotsa people dislike Cal for lotsa reasons. I see no reason to question or challenge it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, i like the colors? haha, i’m a fan of Best… but not much else on the team, he’s a special player
Then you should love Vereen.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yea? i really think Best would be a very good player in the NFL, he’s got skills… Vereen shifty? or more power?
Great dancer.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Really can sing.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Are we talking about Ben Vereen?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I’m talkin bout Shaft, baby
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
He’s pretty similar to Best, and while Best has somewhat more homerun power, Vereen appears to be more consistent.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
After Riley, I think the team had a couple of true freshmen or something. I’m not completely sure.
Definitely nobody who showed anywhere near enough to warrant starting, though, because Riley should have been benched more than once, and he never was. Which doesn’t seem like a ringing endorsement for his backups.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly, i don’t know why i’m not a fan of CAL, but i had to deal with a ton of people here in the east bay talking about how good CAL was, and i just got so sick and tired of it. So i decided to be a Michigan fan… plus i love Ann Arbor… but dude, i couldn’t stand CAL growing up
Wait, you decided to be a Michigan fan because you were sick of people talking up Cal all the time?
In what world does that make sense?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Nope, i’m a michigan fan because i have family in the Detroit area, so i used to go to Ann Arbor a few times a year, and fell in love with the team, and Bo Schembechler
I don't know from college football...
…but people here are a little crazy about Bobby Bowden. The local paper has a column called “Zing!” where readers submit short, supposedly pithy comments about current events – yeah, it’s pretty awful. Anyway, one of them the other day was complaining about how the Nigerian bomber guy tried to blow up the plane “when the spotlight should be on Bobby.”
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Bobby Bowden? you mean the coach retiring from Florida State? he’s a pike… but i dont know many people that were going crazy about him…
“Retiring” from Florida State.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 31, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
I’m in Tallahassee now. So.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Fun Tallahassee Facts
The city is home to the nation’s most phallic state capitol building:
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I mean, maybe there are other phallic state capitols, but I’m guessing they don’t come equipped with testicles.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oh come on.
That has to be some sort of big city-wide joke.
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 31, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Sooner Schooner!
suddenly my favorite mascot transportation device. Too bad Stanfurd gave up the Indian nickname BITD, that would have made for an ironical matchup. Anyway, hooray for Oklahoma, at least today.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 1, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
Dbacks done signing
From Rotoworld:
Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic reports that after this week’s signings of Bob Howry and Kelly Johnson, the Diamondbacks aren’t expected to add more payroll.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Howry is the key!
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
You know, I know he gets a lot of crap here, but Howry isn’t that bad.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Also LOL Dodgers
From MLB Trade Rumors
Executives tell Olney that the Dodgers’ quiet offseason is giving other teams confidence and emboldening them to make more moves.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
‘emboldening’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
EMBOLDEN YOUR PENIS NATURALLY WITH THESE HERBAL VITAMINS!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
It was bolder when I was single…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 31, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
i like t-girls so im on the girl cock diet (<>..<>)
by BillyMaysHere on Jan 1, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
hmmm
the score updates seem to trail off here
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Jan 1, 2010 7:23 AM PST up reply actions
MLBN just played the last out of the Sanchez no hitter
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions
MLBN Really?
I’m watching the MLBN countdown of the best games of 2009 and they show Dirty’s no hitter and then they go on to say that though Dirty was good Buehrle was perfect which I can see that a perfect game is better than a no hitter but how did his game NOT make the list? The story behind it and everything. Buehrle should be #1 but nooo the Yankees/Twins game is ahead…really?
That really really irritated me the yanks appeared 3 times on the same list.
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
How is a no hitter not one of the top games in 2009? Asswipes.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 12:53 PM PST reply actions
He pitched way better than Buehrle. he got 28 outs, and had more Ks I think, and Buehrle gave up freakin HR!
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 31, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Defiintely had more Ks
It’s Mark Buehrle after all.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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C'mon
Be fair. This isn’t ESPN. MLB Network is tons more fair than the Yankees/Red Sox network. During the season, Yankees-Red Sox matchup ALWAYS led off Baseball Tonight/Sportscenter. MLB Network had other games ahead (even when MLB televised a Red Sox-Yankees game).
"meh"
So it was lumped in with all the other no hitters in 2009!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 31, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
It was better than a perfect game.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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