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The Giants would like to add offense and, as Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports point out, Pablo Sandoval and Freddy Sanchez are versatile enough to give GM Brian Sabean plenty of options. The FOX Sports duo reports that Adrian Beltre, Dan Uggla and Nick Johnson are all high on the team's wish list.

One source tells FOX Sports that the Giants and Marlins are in the midst of ongoing discussions about Uggla, a prime trade candidate. The Marlins are looking to obtain major league-ready players for the arbitration-eligible infielder. The Giants, not surprisingly, would only have interest in Johnson on a short-term deal.

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The other person mentioned in the article of interest to the Giants is Beltre. None of these 3 are distasteful to me, though Beltre would cost a draft pick.

by Shoeless on Dec 3, 2009 7:15 AM PST reply actions

Type B

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by say hey nation on Dec 3, 2009 7:17 AM PST up reply actions

Beltre wouldn’t cost a draft pick he’s a type B free agent, the article is wrong in that regard.

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by GiantFan on Dec 3, 2009 7:17 AM PST up reply actions

Well if the Marlins are looking for major-league ready players then i don’t see us being a good fit as we have pretty much none of those. I like Uggla but i wouldn’t give up decent value for him and I’m still somewhat skeptical that they’ll give him up for next to nothing.

And Beltre, good player though he is, doesn’t really fall into the “adding offense” strategy in that he’s worse offensively than the player he’d replace in the lineup.

Obviously Nick Johnson would be a good acquisition and no team will give him more than two years so he’s unlikely to be an issue in that regard.

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by GiantFan on Dec 3, 2009 7:22 AM PST reply actions

I think these three are a solid group. Its much better than a 3 year 18 million dollar Polanco

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by say hey nation on Dec 3, 2009 7:29 AM PST up reply actions

I fear for Thomas Neal’s Giant future!

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by Roger on Dec 3, 2009 7:40 AM PST up reply actions

Really?

We have like 15 hundred AAAA outfielders who could all be described as Major league ready.

Hell, we could trade them Fred Lewis. He fits that definition.

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by GiantPain on Dec 3, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions

I was all WTF why is he arguing with himself?

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by say hey nation on Dec 3, 2009 7:44 AM PST up reply actions

I'm not sure...

by WTF on Dec 3, 2009 7:50 AM PST up reply actions

It confuses me too.

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by GiantPain on Dec 3, 2009 7:52 AM PST up reply actions

Because “GiantFan” and “GiantPain” are obviously synonymous with each other.

(and you guys probably have the same mustache).

by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 3, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions

True we do have a number of major league ready OF but are any of them going to be particularly appealing to the Marlins? I guess that comes down to the second point that I’m skeptical that they give him up without getting at least one intriguing piece.

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by GiantFan on Dec 3, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions

All indications are that this could be way more of a salary dump type deal than you would expect given Uggla’s rep. They might take a package of C+/B- prospects for him.

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by jponry on Dec 3, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions

It’s certainly more feasible as to his actual price but are the Marlins willing to accept that they held on to him too long?

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by GiantFan on Dec 3, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions

I’m only interested in Johnson.

go ahead.

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by ResDog on Dec 3, 2009 7:40 AM PST reply actions

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by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 3, 2009 8:09 AM PST reply actions

but instead you got Johnson

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by j14 on Dec 3, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions

Surgery is still an option.

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by capnk on Dec 3, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions

I really don’t want to give up stuff for Uggla.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Dec 3, 2009 8:28 AM PST reply actions

I’d be interested in any of those three, though my preference would go

Johnson → Beltre → Uggla

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by jponry on Dec 3, 2009 8:31 AM PST reply actions

I'm not sure why everyone is so high on Johnson

I’d rather have Ishikawa continue to develop at 1st, with his glove. Rather than get Johnson.

by speedyg08 on Dec 3, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions

Ishi…develop LOL!

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by say hey nation on Dec 3, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions

Has to be said

DeveLOLop.

All things considered (team needs, available talent/demand), it seems to me like Johnson is the best fit.

by sakbaum on Dec 3, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions

Give Ishikawa a devLOLipop.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions

go look at Johnson's OBP

only major issue is his health.

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by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 3, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions

Yeah, and Nick Johnson has only OPSd 100+ points more than Ishikawa over their respective careers.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions

I’d rather not. :)

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by jponry on Dec 3, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions

You ever smoked Johnson?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 3, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions

I'm still trying to figure out what we would do if we did acquire Uggla

Moving Sanchez to third would be kind of dumb since he doesn’t really have the arm or the bat to play there. Moving Uggla to third would be scary and I hope that’s not what they’re considering. The only other things I can think of is maybe they would move Uggla to first….but that would kill the value of his bat or they plan to move Sanchez to SS, which would be interesting, but seems a lot better than the other options.

by superk1ng on Dec 3, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions

Hm.

Sanchez’s career UZR/150 from 3b: 17.9

He’s quite good defensively at 3b.

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by GiantPain on Dec 3, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions

I doubt UZR takes arm strength into account. From what I can tell, it’s calculated from range and errors. If a runner beats his throw because his arm isn’t as strong, I don’t see any way this stat can reflect that, as the play would be recorded as an infield hit.

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by capnk on Dec 3, 2009 9:28 AM PST up reply actions

his abilty to turn balls hit into his zone into outs is his “range”. In that respect, his arm does factor into his range.

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by oldjacket on Dec 3, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions

Good to know. Admittedly, I’m unclear on how many advanced metrics are calculated.

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by capnk on Dec 3, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions

Even those of us that read up a lot on this stuff are often unclear on the complete intricacies of them…

by Missing Barry on Dec 3, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions

This, unfortunately.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Dec 3, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions

How confident do those numbers make you, though? On average 2B = 3B, and we’re not looking at a huge sample size with Sanche’z career at 3B….

by Missing Barry on Dec 3, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions

Two reason this makes me happy:

No Dye/Damon/Random OF with a ring mentioned
It shows that the FO is thinking semi creatively and realizes that they can move the IF around a little

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by say hey nation on Dec 3, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions

Quick poll: Does anyone here think that Sanchez would have worse range than Renteria? Serious question, no snark.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 3, 2009 9:33 AM PST reply actions

Renteria’s $18M says he has more range.

by Missing Barry on Dec 3, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions

no. I know everybody says the knee surgery is no big deal, but I would want to see him move laterally before I would base any 2010 decisions on that, though.

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by oldjacket on Dec 3, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions

I'm going with no, but

does Renteria get the edge here since he has more experience at the position and may be able to judge hitters/players more effectively? Or is that BS?

Then again, I don’t know much about range/defensive metrics, so who knows why I’m even replying.

by sakbaum on Dec 3, 2009 9:47 AM PST reply actions