More on DeRosa
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 29, 2009 3:18 PM PST
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PrintI’m not offended by the DeRosa deal. In spite of my better judgment, I’m optimistic. There’s no reason that a 35-year-old player coming off a wrist injury should be expected to duplicate his numbers from one or two seasons ago, but
Hm. Couldn’t think of a good way to end that last sentence. Still, DeRosa is just a year removed from a .376 on-base percentage, and if he can approach that again, we’ll all be thrilled. Wait, why does that read so familiar?
At least Renteria is only one season removed from a really good season.
I’m pretty sure that my lack of outrage about the Mark DeRosa deal is because a) I’m numb to all of the moves that aren’t completely awful, and b) I’m grading the Giants’ front office on a curve, where a "C" grade is given to moves that aren’t end-of-the-world-awful, a "B" grade is given to moves that don’t make me grit my teeth, and an "A" grade is given to moves that I might actually consider on my own.
The more I think about it, the more I think I don’t like the deal.
The more I think about it, the more irrationally excited I am to have another lineup spot filled with an above-average on-base percentage.
The more I think about, the more this makes me angry:
The more I think about it, the more I realize that I’d prefer a post filled with post-DeRosa ramblings to a post about Kiko Calero (who would be a decent acquisition, but I'm just sayin').
Open thread because the other thread is getting full thread.
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RAGE SHRAPNEL!!!
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
DeRosa to be on KNBR at 6pm-ish with uh… that guy that does 9er games now…used to do the Giants… crap… Robinson?
Ted Robinson
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So...
Is there going to be a press conference or is it just going to be a press release?
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There was a press conference today at 12:30. My boss wasn’t able to phone in, so I’m not sure what went down.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 29, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
the conference call notes, via Baggs:
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I could have trimmed some arguments of of it, but i was lazy. It’s from RSS, which is why.
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Ah
Not sure how I missed that. Thanks.
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mark derosa BABIP in 2009: .286
BABIP in 2008: .325
ill take the 2008 version please
by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 29, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions
I suppose even something in the middle of that (say, .300-.305 BABIP) would probably make for a decent player.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
assuming he gets enough BIP to make the BA ok
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
His career BABIP is .315. The .286 mark was the lowest of his career.
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I think you misunderstood bobnothing. It’s not the BABiP that was being discussed, it was the actual number of balls in play. Basically, DON’T BE A HACKER MARK.
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True. Pretty much replied off jponry's post w/o reading carefully.
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wrist injury
no coincidence that an injured wrist results in more weakly hit balls and a lower babip. his LD% was the worst of his career, by a rather significant margin.
i just hope he’s fully recovered, but i wouldn’t bet on it. but at least better than second 1/2 of last year … fingers crossed.
It still smells like crap.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 29, 2009 3:27 PM PST reply actions
Stop stealing Grant’s underwear already.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Do they smell like Llamas?
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Yeah
Otherwise howie will have none.
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Inorite?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Still tastes like crap
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 29, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Not as smelly as some other crap. But still crap. It’s like reliving the Renteria signing. Who didn’t enjoy the first year?
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
I’m worried about the wrist injury.
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TWSS?!
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why?
he’s been examined by the crack Giants training staff…
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Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 29, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Overrosterbation?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 29, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
/hands Johnny Disaster a baby wipe
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something something jhiat00 will swindle
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 29, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
I think I hate it just because the “Baseball Media” thinks it was a good move.
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
The Mark DeRosa signing has the BM behind it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Which brings us full circle back to Lars’ opinion.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Well, there’s a lot to be said for a good BM certainly.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 29, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
This comment inexplicably got me to look at the Brian Sabean wiki page. He has quite an interesting list of Awards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Sabean
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I am not familiar with any of those players.
Maybe their names were misspelled.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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They’re Italian.
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RACIST!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 29, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Baseball Media thinks it’s a good move?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 29, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
–Sabean said he remains focused on adding another hitter: "It’s a chess game at this point. We’re engaged in a lot of possibilities. We’ve still got some offers on the table. We haven’t beefed up efforts on a fifth starter or the catching front. Between now till the new year, we’ll flush out the offensive possibilities."
Kicking tires, due diligence, puke
Brain's chess game
“Hah! Now that I’ve sacrificed my queen to get that pesky knight out of the game, he’ll never expect my all-pawn advance! "
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 29, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
–Sabean said he remains focused on adding another hitter: "It’s a chess game at this point. We’re engaged in a lot of possibilities. We’ve still got some offers on the table. We haven’t beefed up efforts on a fifth starter or the catching front. Between now till the new year, we’ll flush out the offensive possibilities."
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oops
Or using preview.
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quiet, you.
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It’s not too easy enough.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
No reason not to have an edit feature… Well, there are reasons, but they aren’t very good.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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They are good. Editing for individual comments would be absolute chaos.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
THAT'S ARMAGEDDON
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
meh
not really, pretty much every other forum I’m a part of has it, and it doesn’t really cause any problems.
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Why do you say that?
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What a dick
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by bondslegend on Dec 29, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
As somebody who has a modicum of editing power on this site, I’ve singlehandedly been the cause of some minor chaos. It’s not necessarily just fixing an apostrophe. Maybe you go back and revise an entire thought. Replace a preposition with a song lyric. The possibilities are madness!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
madness?
/ starts building a tiki god like statue with a failbeard
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
He sounds like an exterminator waiting to flush out the vermin free agents
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Somehow I can only see Sabean playing a game of chess ending with him choking on one of the pieces.
by Into the Void on Dec 29, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
LOL, Sabean is no Bobby Fisher is too funny! (Sobbing over more cash thrown into the st...)
I too must confess that I try to like the Giants Front office, but then they do ANOTHER over the hill ball player with 250.ish batting and nothing to look forward to but DECLINING numbers (See previous 2 years track record) and give him BIG money….Is this REALLY the best that the Sabean could do in getting some hitting into the lineup? I did ask for a hitter for Christmas, but I wanted a GOOD hitter with a couple years left in him, not someone who is going to be approaching 40 when the contract is up! Come on, did Sabean want to be known as the “Al Davis” of San Francisco?
Sabean's a *Genius*
only in comparison to Al.
Congrats on being able to make Sabean look good. I hadn’t thought that possible until just now.
When I hear Sabean say “we’ll flush out the offensive possibilities” I can’t help but picture him on the toilet doin’ some serious thinking…
He must have a phone installed in his bathroom.
We just traded who for who?!
That's where he makes most of his important decisions
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There is a “#2 on speedial” joke here somewhere, I just can’t find it.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 29, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Judging by the smell of things, I tend to agree!
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Meh
It’s not that bad. It’s definitely not good, but it’s not that bad. If he’s healthy, he can provide a .800 OPS bat that can fill in at a lot of positions. If not, oh well we’re out 12 mil. I don’t think his contract is going to weigh us down much next offseason, so he shouldn’t really prevent us from signing say Aramis Ramirez or Carlos Pena. Also, if we stand pat offensively with him and Uribe, it provides the opportunity for either Bowker or Schierholtz to get some starts. I’d be fine with that, although I don’t really trust Bork to cooperate with that plan.
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
OPERATION VERSATILITY: GO!
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Versatilty
Another way of saying, “Jack of all trades, master of jack shit.”
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
Versatility
Gamer’s younger brother.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Versatility
Gamer’s younger brother.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Versatility
Gamer’s younger brother.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 29, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Damnit, did that double post? I am fail.
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You're about to hit for the cycle!
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Gamer
Versatility’s older brother.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
SABES STOP SITTING ON YOUR HANDS!!
/signs Mark DeRosa
Oh..Meh
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 29, 2009 4:03 PM PST reply actions
WHUT R U DOIN SABES U SHOULDA SGNED HIM FOR 8 YRS STUPID
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Hes waiting for the “stranger”
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by say hey nation on Dec 29, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
OT:
It looks like Mayweather will get the chance to get his face to implode from Manny’s left hook
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I don’t thing it’s going to be an easy fight for Manny. Mayweather is a defensive fighting who could give Manny lots of problems.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
It will be hard with Floyd running away
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Mayweather is also taller, has a longer reach, is almost as fast and probably just as strong. If Mayweather had the heart of Marquez, it’d be the greatest fight of all time. Hopefully it will be anyway.
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Everyone and their mother is taller than Manny… lol
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
Mayweather has otherworldly head movement, too. Manny is extremely good at that, but he still gets caught. Mayweather will hurt him more than once. That’ll go both ways… Hatton hurt Mayweather, and Manny is basically Hatton on (ahem) steroids.
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LOL
Manny =/= Hatton
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
MUPPETS TAKE MANNY=/=HATTON
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lulz
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
come on… Smaller guys who are a whirlwind of punches. Hatton is like an extremely shitty version of Manny.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Hatton doesn’t have a whirlwind of punches, though. He has one. And he’s very slow.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Good grief.
Hatton wasn’t slow. He was slow compared to Manny and Floyd.
That’s like saying Raul Ibanez is a bad power hitter because he’s not Barry Bonds.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Well, even accepting that, it seems to me like the only basis for comparison between the two is “small.”
They can’t be compared for strength (Hatton has a stronger punch) or versatility (Manny can throw a few different punches with both hands; Hatton, not so much) or speed (Manny is easily faster) or skill (again, to Manny)… but I guess they’re both small.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Small… Strong… Throw a lot of punches… Tons of stamina… Brawlers… He’s the comp to make when talking about the Mayweather fight. Manny does everything that Hatton tried to do, but does it better.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Maybe Gatti, but Gatti didn’t have a lot left when he fought Mayweather.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I don’t know. Manny wasn’t really the brawler in the Cotto fight. Manny was very much in control of the fight and waited for Cotto to start throwing punches. Manny would start countering and overpowered Cotto’s defense.
Manny is a very technical fighter and very adept to utilizing his training/strategy from Roach. It may seem that the Hatton fight was a brawl because it was over in a blur, the Cotto fight clearly showed what kind of fighter Pacquiao is.
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Asked the same question below but...
did they make the fight official yet?
by Johnny Drama on Dec 29, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry I have to play Ken Rosenthal twitter happy fingers
No it’s not official, but it’s very very close to moving forward.
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
Manny Pacquiao is Manny Pacquiao. There’s no comparison.
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
There are always comparisons to be made… But I’m content to agree to disagree.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Nah
Timmy doesn’t take ROIDZZZZ
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by bondslegend on Dec 29, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
OT: NFL Pro Bowl(49ers related)
Vernon Davis has been announced as a starter so far
and of course, Patrick Willis starting MLB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZiHzZgottA&feature=related – never gets old
You can just write that in for the next 15 years
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The Pro Bowl has caught the VD
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Oh geez
I didn’t realize what you all meant by VD until I scrolled down some more.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
It was the 40 yard blocked punt that pushed him over the edge.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
yes
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
But he's not albert haynesworth
and he doesn’t play in the east. Ergo, he sucks.
Plus this makes him cheaper
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+1
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Gore is a first alternate
If the Vikings make the super bowl, then he’ll probably take Petersons spot.
LOL vikings winning a playoff game
no fucking way that happens.
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VD in Miami? Well I never.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 29, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
VD: Catch It!
Old New Miami Tourist Board Slogan
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
1- ProBowl= Most Useless game in the universe
2- ProBowl before superbowl= more useless than #1
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by say hey nation on Dec 29, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Winning team gets home field advantage in “joes vs pros”
by E Ticket on Dec 29, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
I’m looking forward to DeRosa adding scads of veteran whatever. We lead the league in that shit.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Scads …or scabs?
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Why not both? At the same time.
He is versitile after, no?
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
Scads of scabs?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 29, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Scrabs.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Better or worse than crabs? Scabies?
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Worse than Paramites.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 29, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
It is fitting for the typcal Bork Line up.
Or desperate 2 A.M. last call.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
LOL
someone on KNBR was suggesting moving derosa to left, trading for garrett atkins to play third, and playing VROOOOM in right
Interesting that KNBR couldn't book an interview with Sabean
and he had to call in
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
I'm a little confused (not unlike Brian Sabean)
Will someone explain to me how this guy is an upgrade or less of a risk than Uribe? If they’re taking a flier on someone based on good years a few years back, Uribe’s were bigger…
Well, we’re signing Uribe too apparently
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Exactly, they’ll have the best bench in baseball, except the bench is starting….vroom.
by The Neuschler on Dec 29, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
you win the thread
Ginats lose the games
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 29, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
meat of order
DeRosa or Uribe? You kidding me? These two will both be in the heart of the order, sandwiched around Panda.
I’m sure Pablo’s just licking his chops thinking of the protection he’s got now.
Sure
Uribe: Career BABIP = .290; 2009 BABIP = .330; 2009 = career best .351 wOBA; previous 3 years wOBA= .296, .286, .291.
DeRosa: Career BABIP = .315; 2009 BABIP = .286; 2009 = .327 wOBA; previous 3 years wOBA = .376, .349, .350.
DeRosa had a bad 2 months at the end of the season, which is anomolous when looking at his performance of the last 4 years. Uribe had a career season which is way out of line compared to his previous 4 years. Which one has the better bet to continue performing going forward?
Caveats are DeRosa’s potential age-related decline and wrist injury.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Those are pretty big caveats
But clearly Derosa has had a better career than Uribe. The problem is that adding DeRosa doesn’t obviously make the team better. Even if he plays LF, which I will not believe until it actually happens, he’d be only a slight upgrade over Fred Lewis (and yes I know they won’t play Lewis, but that doesn’t make the decision to add DeRosa any better).
They could platoon the two
In theory…
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
oh dear god
great question xanthan
Santiago is only 44, get it done Sabean
by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Dec 29, 2009 4:15 PM PST reply actions
oh alright
i didn’t even notice that. just read xanthan. still beautiful
Santiago is only 44, get it done Sabean
by BringBackBenitoSantiago on Dec 29, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
it was Goofus. We’re over here:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/12/29/1224111/preemptive-strike-at-csnbot
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
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DeRosa sounds like a Bork type of player.
Old- Check
Gritty-Check
Looks good in a uniform-Check
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LOL METS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
LOL
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
LOL
Per ESPN 1050 via Pat Andriola, the Mets have signed Bengie Molina. We’re waiting for confirmation on this one, but if true, will probably be a bad move.
Bengie going to METS...Well, I was not surprised by this.
Bengie is still a class act. I think that he was offended and disappointed by the GIANTS failure to sign him this last (2009) mid-season, so his heart was not in the last half of 2009 season with the GIANTS and it showed in his production. Also, his kness where shot….Maybe after a full off season to rest his knees and a fat contract to finish out his playing years, I believe Bengie will be good for the METS…I remember that Bengie brought Pablo along, so I believe that Bengie can do the same thing for the METS line-up…Wonder if the METS will be playing Bengie everyday like he was in San Francisco? Or do they have someone to split time with him at catching that is also offensively effective?
METS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Ugh
I loved Bengie Molina as a player during his prime, but not only are his legs shot, so is his arm. I actually preferred Whiteside as a catcher, which is pretty pathetic on any account. Part of the issue was Bochy playing him in the #4 hole, but I finally lost it when Bengie hit a tough grounder to 2nd during a Dodgers game, Hudson ranged over, came up with the ball and tripped; as he spun around to rush his throw, he saw how far from 1st base Bengie was, took another step, laughed and flicked the ball to Ethier, beating Bengie by about 5 or 6 steps.
I’ll take 2 full seasons of a struggling Catching prospect over that, any day of the week.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
class act?
Sure seemed to sulk and pout an awful lot last year.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 29, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Man, I'm so relieved he won't be back
I was getting mildly anxious that Sabes was going to swoop in and Bengie would sign a one year deal to PROVE HIMSELF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
1 year?
ya know, i’d have taken Bengie at 1 year.
1 year, $4M, hitting #6 or #7. done.
hitting #6 or #7
Did they fire Big Head? If not he will be hitting #4 ,or if we are “lucky” #5 and we will like it.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 31, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
guess he buckled on the whole “demanding a three year deal” thing.
by Into the Void on Dec 29, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
LOL NO DRAFT PICK
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LOL BENGIE
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LOL METS FANS
If molina eats bay before we can finalize his contract on monday, this is a good move
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 29, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
IT'S A FESTIVUS MIRACLE
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Splendid
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 29, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
OH FRABJOUS DAY
For all you jerks that think there’s too much negativity here, let me just say: THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 29, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Let us chortle in our joy.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 30, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
EAT THE METS, EAT THE METS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
/watches them both be walk-offs against the Giants.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Dec 30, 2009 8:06 AM PST up reply actions
Excellent news
Whereas I am not thrilled the Giants are giving a 2/$12M contract to Mark DeRosa, I am very pleased that they are not giving a 2/$12M contract to Bengie Molina.
So now at least we know there is a ceiling on Sabean’s stupidity.
YOU ARE NOT SAYING!
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Nice. I didn’t catch that
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 29, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Is it sad that that's the first thing that jumped out at me?
not sure why
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I got a question in
[Comment From Cryan Wilson Cryan Wilson: ]
Who’s on Sabean’s short list of starting pitchers for the 5th slot?
It’s very vanilla but I also didn’t want to be a douche since Urban is taking the chat seriously, I think.
Win the inning.
I like the DeRosa move… reasonable cost with a decent upside. I was afraid they would land Bay at Rowand type numbers (with Rowand type results); so really this is cool. Of course, it’d be cooler if he was going to be filling the 6 or 7 hole instead of the 3 or 5.
You can fill all those slots with guys named Pedro Feliz
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 29, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Logic.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
There is very little upside. He’s 35, he’s never been good defensively, and he’s coming off a pretty serious injury. Yeah, maybe he hits like he did 2 years ago, but that’s a pretty remote possibility and it’s much more likely he hits like he did last year when he was not good. How does this make the team better?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln...
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 29, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
I’m hoping, as the Giants are, that last year’s late season drop off had to do with the wrist injury. Assuming that heals well, there’s no reason he can’t return to the type of hitter he was between 2006-2009 (pre-injury) OPS of .800ish and OBP in the .330 range. Remember, even last year in Cleveland he hit .270BA/.342OBP/.799OBS; he got hurt basically right when he got to STL. And his defense isn’t that bad: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/derosma01.shtml#standard_fielding
For $6mil a year on a short two year contract, that’s a good deal. Even if DeRosa is a total flop, they don’t have a contract they can’t eat.
by isithotinhere on Dec 30, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
“there’s no reason he can’t return to the type of hitter he was between 2006-2009”
Other than the fact that players don’t maintain the same level of performance into their late 30s.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
it's the Giants
>>"How does this make the team better?"
You mean the same team that employed the Juan Uribe at cleanup at times last year? Which was actually a slight improvement from the primary cleanup hitter?
But yeah, there’s little upside to this. People don’t just jump right back to full strength from wrist injuries within 8 months.
However, he isn’t too expensive (and we also didn’t have to give up one of our better prospects) and while I don’t expect him to have healed 100% from his wrist injury, even if he can put up 80% and have a decent eye he’ll instantly be top 3 on the team in OBP.
But I would’ve taken Bay at Rowand’s price in a heartbeat. He’s on the decline, but unlike Rowand, who had just 1 good year, Bay’s had just 1 bad year — and he’d still have been the Gigantes’ 2nd best year even with his ‘07 #’s.
So where do you think Bochy slots him in this awesome lineup?
I think 3rd…man that hurts to say that.
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From Baggs
Bruce Bochy said DeRosa could be a great fit in the No.5 spot in the lineup behind Sandoval, but nothing is etched in stone.
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still need Dye
gotta get some Ribeyes in front of Pablo…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 29, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
…because nobody has etched anything in stone in like 1000 years.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Bochy also said Garko would bat 5th or 4th when he was acquired. Bochy also said Posey would see considerable playing time, etc.
Unfortunately, I can’t trust a word that comes out of Sabean or Bork’s mouth.
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
meh
that’s fine
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according to heyman he’d bat number 3 and play 3rd and panda would possibly be catching because bork and sabes don’t think posey is ready
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Yeah
but Heyman is a fucking moron.
So there’s that.
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by bondslegend on Dec 29, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Heyman really gets me irritated. I press mute sometimes when he is speaking on MLB Network.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Plus, his last name is, “Hey, man!” And that always starts this weird South Park meme. So I resent him for that, too.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Man, that must be the most annoying thing in the world to have. “Here, we gave you this thing you can use, but it’s going to hurt like mo-fo the first one or two or even three times because you have to destroy this useless piece of living tissue first.”
I’ve always wondered what the useful biological purpose of the hymen is, if it has one.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Now I’m looking up “hymen” on wikipedia at work.
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Use Chrome and go INCOGNITO!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Oh good, it has a picture.
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I think your handle is funny in context here.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
That didn’t answer anything, but it did gross me out.
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I remember back in 03 when I was a college freshman going to all the girls in the dorms trying to actually find out what a “douchebag” was. There was little success
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
You’re a weirdo.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not going around to every girl in my office asking her about her hymen.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Though that is the next logical step.
(This mini-thread is wierd.)
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Not the weirdest though.
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Probably not the most awkward either.
As soon as I hit post and read “wierd” I was reminded of that link you posted yesterday.
OMG DIS CITE NEEDS EDITING
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
at camp one year, we sent one of the dumber kids to the snack bar, where one of only two women in the camp worked, for 6 feet of fallopian tubing.
She had a good comeback “I only have a few inches and I need it”
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Yeah, I wasn’t able to find much either.
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That’s what she said!
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I cannot think of an appropriately sad emoticon.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
:( ?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Not sad enough. It just doesn’t convey the deep emotional torment or the sudden existential crisis.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
d8O
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by shanghaijim on Dec 30, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, they are usually broken by the time you find one
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
It is just as well. Virgins are overrated.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
True, but the hymen doesn’t completely disappear until a woman has had multiple vaginal deliveries. Knowledge!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
LOLDELIVERY
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
the key to successful pitching is a repeatable delivery according to ESPN exprtz
by E Ticket on Dec 30, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
a guy wearing a brown shirt and short pants?… no.
by E Ticket on Dec 30, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I worked there for 13 years – never wore brown shirt or shorts… I did leave boot prints on an undetermined number of boxes though.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Which is one of the reasons I prefer Fedex. No matter how much I argue to change my companies freight carrier to Fedex, they won’t listen. CHANGE!!??!! WE CAN"T DO THAT!
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, Fedex carries their packages on velvet pillows.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
DELIVER THAT PACKAGE!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Deleiver… package.. slot…
TWSS?
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Man… it has to have some evolutionary advantage. Doesn’t it?
/looks resentfully at the galbladder.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Doubtful. Does the bible at least say its some purity thing though?
(I’m Jewish)
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Non-practicing Jew over here. So iono.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
not a Jew, nor a theologian
but I think the Bible is relevant to Judaism. Especially the half that came before Jesus.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I said non-practicing. “Never practiced” would be more accurate. “Jew by birthright only” would be even more accurate.
But non-practicing Jew is easiest because then nobody calls me agnostic.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Lazy man’s athiest… plus, with non-practicing Jew, there’s still hope for improvement.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
This is correct
They just do not like the sequel.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Not for the woman, but theoretically, in a pre-genetic testing society, it gives some sort of assurance to the man that he isn’t putting his resources into raising some other dude’s offspring.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
The first time, maybe… seems like a pretty lame assurant overall, though. I give evolution a -1 if that’s the so-called advantage in question.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Well, it’s not perfect certainly, but as humans evolved in small, nomadic family groups, if you got a hold of a young virgin and kept her pregnant most of the time, you could potentially skew the odds in your favor quite a bit.
Yahoo answers has an interesting theory, which might make more sense than mine:
It discourages females from becoming sexually active at too young of an age.
When a girl/young woman begins to go through puberty, she may become physically able to get pregnant before her body is fully capable of safely supporting a pregnancy. So something that discourages sexual activity just enough to delay it until she is better able to survive having a child of her own would be evolutionarily beneficial.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I would love to see the question asked on yahoo! answers there.
Why was himmen formmed?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Ontologically, the hymen actually develops at the junction between two different epithelial surfaces. That’s to say, it’s not a remnant structure left by adjacent apoptosis, but is actively built by the body. Weird. It must have some function. As far as the galbladder, it does have a function (it stores and concentrates bile between meals) and some people have serious digestive problems after getting them removed. However, it’s certainly not an essential organ.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I thought it was the appendix that was the useless one.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
But then where would you find your list of resources?
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There is some thought that it has an immune function in maintaining the beneficial flora in the gut.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve never needed to bother with any of those icky girly parts.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 30, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
If the Giants can ink Beltre to a reasonable deal, I think this signing can be salvaged. At least then we can get Velez out of the lineup and have a dependable defensive 3B. Otherwise, that left side of the IF will be painful to watch.
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"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
Nothing with Boras is reasonable
He’ll explain how Beltre will be nut(s) to take less money than 4/$40 million just because.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 29, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, very true. It’s too bad the league hasn’t collectively black listed Boras. Kinda like the Braves did with Furcal last year.
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"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
i c wt u did thr
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There’s an acronym for that: ISWYDT
On a related note, there’s an app for that…
We just traded who for who?!
I DO IT MY WAI OK
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by bondslegend on Dec 29, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
IDIMYWO...?
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
What are the odds that Lewis and/or Bowker could out hit DeRosa next year? Or 2011? If they move DeRosa to a corner outfield spot your blocking cheaper players who could get similar results for less pay.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
BUT DINGERZ
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by bondslegend on Dec 29, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
That’s the whole problem with this move. DeRosa either blocks Ishikawa (who, I admit, isn’t very good, but he’s probably a pretty big defensive upgrade over Pablo at 1B and not necessarily a worse hitter than Derosa) or Bowker/Lewis, who are likely to hit at least as well as Derosa.
It’s $6M per year that might — might — be a 1 win improvement.
Meh
You knew it was coming at…..
Also, hopefully he doesn’t still panda’s spot. Yes agree with Tellias about getting beltre. Our only great hitter is panda and he isn’t even well known amongst everyone in baseball, no matter how great he is the media will just see him as the great player that the giants don’t deserve.
"I was just tired of being a lot of teams' Plan B's," said DeRosa.
Giants 2010 motto: Your Bench Player is our #5 Hitter
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Dec 29, 2009 5:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I support this
It could have saved tons on marketing costs had they adopted it 5 years ago.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 29, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Unfortunatly, your motto is TOO TRUE: Giants 2010 motto: Your Bench Player is our #5 Hitter
OMG! Do not want to start 2010 this depressed about my Giants! HOW much for Bay?
’chasm?
I dunno. But, Bay is a Met
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 29, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
*will be a Met
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 29, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants 2005 motto
“The guys we let go for nothing are better than the guys we signed”
Assuming, of course, they follow through on their plans to get rid of Lewis.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
2010 motto?
Hasn’t this been their motto since Kent left?
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
i still believe...
that not commiting a set position to derosa suggests the uggla or laroche possibility still exists. i can get behind a line up like this:
cf – rowand
2b – sanchez
3b – pablo
1b – laroche
rf – derosa
lf – bowker
c- posey
ss- rent/ uribe
i’m not crazy about rowand leading off ( or in the line up at all for that matter), although he got on base quite a bit last year at the lead off.
I am a supporter of the Rowand leadoff experience
assuming that an OBP guy like Damon isn’t signed.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
this
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
I support it
because didn’t it work out pretty well last year?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=rowanaa01&year=&t=b#lineu
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
that is outstanding
rowand got hbp more batting lead off than any other spot in the order. OBP !
interestingly
almost the same leading off as batting 7th. But 2x the SO leading off…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 29, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty close to the same K rate though (25.3% leading off, 19.5% batting 7th, 22.9% overall)
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Yay! only 25% SO rate! Your new leadoff hitter.
I was surprised to see that the bulk of his AB came in 1st and 7th, and his numbers weren’t too bad in either spot. It’s when he batted everywhere else that he stunk. Maybe he’s a numerologist, and punishes Bork whenever he doesn’t get to bat in the lucky 1 or 7 spots…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 6:20 AM PST up reply actions
this is probably as solid as the giants will get, except i’d switch derosa and bowker.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Positions or in the batting order, or both? I’d probably swap positions. ( TWSS)
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Well, he’s only played a little more than a full season as an OF over his career, but UZR suggests DeRosa is probably a better defensive outfielder than Bowker, so probably putting Derosa in right is the correct move.
This pretty much officially ends the Lewis and Frandsen Experience
The 25-man as it seems now:
IF:
Panda, Sanchez, Renterrhea, DeRosa, Ishi, Uribe (seems likely now)
OF:
VROOM, Rowand, Juggernate, Torres, Bowker
C:
Posey, Verteran McGamerChin
That is 13. I don’t think the Giants will carry just 11 pitchers, though they could do that for stretches.
It seems that Ishikawa is sort of useless at this point (I don’t put too much stock in his +10 fielding). If Pablo is playing 1B, why do the Giants need another LHH 1B? I’m sure DeRosa can play there when Pablo needs a day off. Personally, I would love it if Bowker could learn 1B (would be a 1B/OF), you know in a place like, say, Venezuela? But you would have to be a real warrior to do that…
Of course this is complicated even more if the Giants get one more player (beyond Uribe), which would likely be an infielder, then Ishi probably is let go.
And yes, I would put money down that between Sanchez, Uribe, DeRosa, and Rent, there will be significant injury time, but no benching for suckitude (see Rent).
Any thoughts?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 29, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions
Unlesss they count Olivio has the other bat I think we are probably going to see one of Damon, Dye, Pods, Sarge jr type here. I guess they could sign Jacobs and move Panda toa corner OF spot to tototatly Bollochs things up to the extreame.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
How I'm seeing this offseason
Not on the team:
Aurilia
Winn
Molina
Burriss, Frandsen, (or Velez at 2nd)
On the team:
DeRosa
Bowker, Schierholtz
Posey
These are baby steps…
DeRosa is still a complimentary player amongst similar players, excluding Sandoval
The OF needs offense.
DeRosa does have a lot of nice things to say about his teammates…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 29, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
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–adjective
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2. given free as a gift or courtesy: a complimentary ticket.
com⋅ple⋅men⋅ta⋅ry
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2. complementing each other.
I do have to say, if they give the catcher spot to Posey and hopefully make sure Bowker gets a solid amount of playing time (the second one is a bigger if, for sure), they could find themselves with some nice upgrades from within.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I think Bowker is going to have to have a big spring training and Velez is going to have to be worse than normal Velez. Unfortunately for us, a big spring for Bowker in managements eyes would be him hitting a lot of dingers but not walking much, which would be a step back from him (the walking part).
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 29, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
I think I’m still just in denial that this team really sees Velez as anything more than a 5th OF type
because I mean come on REALLY??
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Dec 29, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm still in denial that Velez is on this team
While Fred is likely to get the boot :-(
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
amen :’(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
+ John 4:12
or something…
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 29, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
A realistic scenario:
If the Giants played Bowker everyday, DeRosa at third, kept Rent on a VERY short leash with Uribe in tow, let Posey catch 130 games, cut Velez, and had Lewis, Nate, and Torres (plays vs. LH starters) be the 3-headed 3rd OF… well, this would not make me puke. I also think it is realistic (maybe not to Brain Sabean, but to people here) and would not require any further moves.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 29, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
We can’t send velez down? but i like this realistic scenario of yours…even though realistic for us is not realistic for bochy.
This is realistic
1B Sandoval
2B Sanchez
SS Rent
3B DeRosa
LF Velez
CF Rowand
RF Scheeeeeeeerholtz
C Posey/Whiteside
=/
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
"upgrades from within"
I know not of what you speak JP. As a Giants fan, I am ignorant of such things.
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
No no you mean as Brian Sabean, you are ignorant of such things
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
All I’m concerned about is how much playing time Posey gets. Right now it seems like he’s the everyday catcher because the Giants haven’t signed a catcher and let Bengie go. But you just never know with Bork managing. He will find some way to keep Buster on the bench and play Whiteside or whoever.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
I'd be Ok
with the Giants giving Ausmus a 1 year deal. Perfect mentor for Gerald.
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Proud member of Sabean's "lunatic fringe" or in other words, "vast majority"
NNNNNNNNNNNNFW
Bochy would NOT play them like Ausmus is the “mentor”. Ausmus would start 161 games, and Whiteside would start 1. Posey would get in for the last inning of the last game.
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Dec 29, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
LOL I wish
Too bad the Yankees are ok with whom they have right now.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
move Rowand to LF
see, Yankees? that adresses your need.
LOL I wish the Yankees thought like this
Too bad it’s highly unlikely.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
For what its worth, Rowand’s defensive skills did increase in ATT from the previous year. Check out his UZR150:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=254&position=OF
-6.1 to +1.5. Still not good, but not as bad as 2008.
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
Here's the thing with Rowand on the Yankees
The difference between Granderson and Gardner/Hoffman and Granderson and Rowand is probably 1 win at the very most. The Yankees would not take on Rowand for that extra one win at $12m for the next 3 years.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
I think the groupthink
or grougthink, if you prefer, is that the busted rib messed up his fielding the prior year. It seemed like he made many fewer throwing errors/brain farts too; I can see the rib affecting the accuracy but not the bad choice to throw home rather than holding a guy at first which he seemed to do less often last year.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 29, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Joke's on Giants investors
Average baseball salary in 2009 3.25 million
Free Agent signings: earning average or above average salary in 2009.
Barry Zito
Aaron Rowand
Randy Winn
Bengie Molina
Edgar Renteria
Randy Johnson
Jeremy Afeldt
Free Agent Giants earning over that amount in 2010 BDG*
Barry Zito
Aaron Rowand
Edgar Renteria
Jeremy Afeldt
Freddy Sanchez
Mark DeRosa
LOL $10 million to Renteria
Between Zito Renteria Rowand and Sanchez the Giants could have signed Penny, Bay, ManRam and Holliday. Silly, but dollars are dollars.
Somebody should have some splainin to do.
Yeah. Things are moving along nicely.
*BDG=Before Dye or Gurrerro
by E Ticket on Dec 29, 2009 5:51 PM PST reply actions
Bay, ManRam and Holliday
that would be an interesting outfield
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah. Cue up Benny Hill Theme. They would prolly have to hit 349 jacks just to offset the carnival atmosphere
by E Ticket on Dec 29, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
It would almost be worth it for the hilarity
I suppose you’d have to go Manny in left, Holliday in center and Bay in right.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That is one outfield I would spend money to watch play defense. Those guys would put stretch marks on your face from laughing so hard. Than they would come to the plate and mash 54 homers in 6 innings or something
by E Ticket on Dec 29, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Most entertaining outfield ever, to a neutral observer
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
I don’t know if this was linked, but Transaction Oracle for DeRosa signing (with ZIPS projections):
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/giants_signed_derosa/
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
OT
But yeah, BC’s qb stinks. Worse than USCs. Is it something in the outfield grass or what
by E Ticket on Dec 29, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
He is really the worst. Of course, he’s a fun story because of the minor league pitcher, 25 year old freshman thing but… dude is not a good quarterback.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Heh. Sabean will probably sign him to a 6/358zillion minor league contract just because he will have experience at ATT
by E Ticket on Dec 29, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the link JP =)
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
That doesn’t look too bad…i think
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand-esque
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
EhRosa, MehRosa, or BleghRosa?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
DuhRosa
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
DeRosé
LOL SF WINE FANS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Is DeRosa a Portuguese name?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 29, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
I am amused by the following:
1) ESPN declaring that a 34-year-old with wrist issues coming off a career-high 23-HR year is a “big hitter” with a “powerful bat” that will intimidate opponents into pitching to Panda.
2) The mental image of Sabez playing chess: “jump, jump, jump, jump… king me! Wait, what?”
3) The proximity of the description of Sandoval as a “floating player” to Sabez’ disturbing “flush out the offensive possibilities” line. Sabez, Panda IS your offensive possibility. Don’t flush the floater! You’ve done enough flushing of the Giants’ offense for one lifetime, thank you.
Seriously, what did he mean by that? Did he mean “flesh out” and get his metaphors mixed? Did he use the correct phrase, only to be betrayed by the speakerphone on the conference call? Does he envision the free-agency process as something akin to a duck hunt, perhaps? I suspect the last scenario, with Scott Boras starring as that $#^%ing dog.
Actually, the Sabean-as-duck-hunter concept is pretty well summed up right here:
(Here, of course, Bugs is the player’s agent.)
Yo yo yo... I'ma letchoo finish, but Bochy and Sabean build the greatest lineups of all time. All time!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Dec 29, 2009 7:57 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
East Coast Bias!
Pedro Sandoval!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Question is...
If we stand pat. WHO is batting leadoff? Not that I am hoping for Podsednik, but I agree with Jponry. Velez? Really?
Puking Orange and Black since 1981
Rowand should bat 1st
Unless we get someone who should, a la Damon.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I tentatively agree
I’d rather see him than Gene
Puking Orange and Black since 1981
Proud member of Sabean's "lunatic fringe" or in other words, "vast majority"
Yup. The team has one good OBP guy, who also happens to be the only real power threat. Rowand is still probably the second-best hitter on the squad, though, so bat him first, Panda 4th, and use the jump to conclusions mat for everyone else.
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Pretty much, we’re not gonna see many stolen bags, but it’s not like Velez is a good base stealer anyway. Torres is pretty good at that though
I don’t mind Rowand leading off…in fact i don’t mind Velez not playing either
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Rowand lead does come with an added bonus!!
Fewer chances to GiDP or ground into a triple play for that matter.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
but it’ll stop Velez from Vrooming!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
I’m getting really irritated looking on facebook and seeing the “Mark DeRosa was a great pickup!”
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
I always trust Facebook for ALL my baseball information.
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by bondslegend on Dec 29, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Trade
DeRosa + Uribe [signed] + 6.5mil for Jason Bay…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
but, that’s not for 5-6 years, only two. Probably one for Uribe.
Say, how come no interest in Delgado?
Injured, old
I wouldn’t mind him on a <$5mil deal though… if he’s healthy (and no, not like Freddie Sanchez healthy)
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
another crapshoot. The Giants need one really good player; anything less is just more of the same.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 29, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Problem is that Holliday is the only player that fits that mold
And Sabean obviously isn’t going that route.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Three good players= one really good player, if the costs are right
DeRosa, Sanchez, Delgado: I can see that being a substantial improvement.
In my personal opinion, I would not have acquired the first two at all, but due to a different line of reasoning.
Lethargy
It has me
Or it could be a very expensive way of offsetting the losses of Uribe (whose production we’d likely lose even if he were resigned) and Garko, for what adds up to little more than a marginal improvement on last season’s offense.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
As I said, I was against the acquisition of the first two players.
I was responding, however, to the idea that the only solution to the Giants’ problems is one “really good player” in the lineup.
Lethargy
It has me
I don't think it is
I think it’s one really good player and a couple of very cheap player who are about as good as the guys we’ve already signed for too much money.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Ok, assuming they don’t (and I for sure don’t) believe that Holliday or Bay are guys you want to build your offense around for 5-6 years, who the heck were they going to sign that any of you guys would like?
It’s only 2 years, it’s 12 mil, hardly breaking the bank. He’s an upgrade on offense over last year and, unlike someone like Garko, doesn’t lock them into one position.
I would have rather given Johnson the same money for two years, but he might have wanted the Yankees anyway so…..
Who was better that is left on the board? Sounds like to me that they fell out of the Bay sweepstakes and sweetened the deal to Derosa.
Is he great? No, but he makes them better.
I would have liked to see Adam LaRoche over DeRosa. He’s a little better and 5 years younger and his 3/18m wasn’t absurdly out of the question
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Downside to LaRoche is that he isn’t very good v LHP. Had they held on to Garko, that would have been a very good platoon. I guess now you could end up with Uribe platooning with LaRoche. Maybe they sign them both. Derosa didn’t break the bank, that’s for sure.
LaRoche also limits your options whereas Derosa gives you a shot guys like Laroche or someone else at 1b or 3b. Be nice to improve two spots wouldn’t it?
Guess we’ll see if it happens.
I hand-calculated Garko's MLB wOBA split against lefties
It came to .386 (!).
Of course, seeing as that was only in 485 PA’s, but even regressing that conservatively toward the mean will still probably net a good wOBA.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
I think LaRoche is still on the table.
He would seem to fit the mold of “another bat” that Sabean wants.
Rowand CF
Sanchez 2b
LaRoche 1b
Sandoval 3b
DeRosa LF
Schierholtz/Bowker RF
Posey C
Renteria SS
That’s an entirely plausible and not-awful lineup.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I wouldn’t mind this
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:51 AM PST up reply actions
There is no not name Holiday in the free agent market you count on as being positive for your teams offense in 3 of the next 5 years.
If you’re asking who is left I would like to see the team go after instead: Uribe ( someone onthe 25 man needs to be a better SS then Bocock and not named Renteria), Kelly Johnson, any one of the high risk/high reward starters for the #5 rotation while the President (Madison) masters his secondary stuff and learns how to pitch a full season. In general have them stop pussy footing around getting first baseman that they like way better then Ishikawa.
In general a 35 year old trying to return from a wrist injury is the last place I want this kind of a squad locking up money and roster spots. Better off using the the spot for open auditions from the kid scrubs and see if one of them can hit 15 or more homers of OBP at better than a 340 clip.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Listening to DeRosa's interview from earlier today with Ted Robinson on KNBR
I am officially on the I love Mark DeRosa bandwagon.
Great knowledge of the Giants. Definitely sounds like he is excited to be here.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Sounds good to me
this signing is just overwhelming me with “meh”. It’s not like it’s a ton of money. It just feels like a totally lateral move.
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Dec 29, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with ya
Given the contract and the alternatives he sounds like a great fit for a couple years.
Seems like his career has had ups and downs, with great ups and band downs, evening out into a slightly above average career line. Let’s hope a year of stability in a new park with an energetic team revitalizes him from a year of injury and league changes. Not an all-star (you never know, though), but a player capable of making a positive impact.
His projections listed on grant’s link in the last post show pretty promising numbers, as well.
by fantastical on Dec 29, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
At least he’s a gamer. PLAYS THE GAME RIGHT AND RESPECTS THA GAME!
any idea when or if they’ll put it up online?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
Ahh…fail for not clicking the right links. Found it
here you guys go if you wanna check it out
http://www.knbr.com/common/global_audio/201/15490.mp3
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 29, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
let me know your thoughts after you listen.
Also, special bonus interviewer TED ROBINSON. He is a breathe of fresh air compared to some of the others on KNBR
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
His voice is a little similar to Bruce’s, though. It’s thrown me off a few times.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
That’s one of the bigger differences.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions
Also, not a fucktard.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
I’m sure we could do this all night. Er… day.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
the other is when Robinson speacks I get to hear differnt views of the game. When Bruce speaks i get to hear " I want another … cookie … candy bar.. ’78 Cubs squad"
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
seems to like playing at ATT and he’s right, his numbers at ATT aren’t bad at all, was pretty honest about his frustration with his injury.
Though, Freddy Sanchez is also a easy guy to interview, he’s pretty clear when he talks. So is Randy Winn
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
Seems like a cool guy. Has some baseball knowledge and is nice to hear that he wants to play wherever the team needs him to help them him. I also heard a Boch’ in there as well.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
anyone else think its hilarious that they can’t help geek out about lincecum for a minute?
that kid’s hot man
by fantastical on Dec 30, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
nvm
http://www.knbr.com/common/global_audio/201/15490.mp3
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I’m pretty sure he has a top notch newsletter.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
Newsletter?! LINK?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
first part of the interview, he sounded like he had just gotten the job of hitting instructor. But, you know, less suicidal than if that were really the case.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
derosa
looks like a good signing. If he is around 265 with 85 rbis he will be great
Marco Belinelli's Biggest Fan
Oh man
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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he’s suggesting derosa gets his weight up to 265 by eating 85 ribs (easy typo).
It’s the sandoval fielder formula.
by fantastical on Dec 30, 2009 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
85 ribs? Who’s going to set that table?
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
facepalm
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
See! This is where that sig would come in handy
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
You know, it really would. Of course, people would also start yelling at me because my sig would take up half the page, but that is a small price to pay. Unfortunately, I can’t even remember what thread that was in anymore. Fuck RBIs!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Read my sig and tremble!
RBIs are irrelevant because – unless a player hits a HR, in which case there better stats (HRs, SLG, ISO) – they are completely dependent on the ability of other players to get on base. Analysis has shown that hitting ability does not appreciably change in "clutch" situations. This means that overall rate stats are far likelier to predict future performance because they AREN’T based on the performance of other players. The RBI is a stat that measures group performance. OBP and SLG measure individual performance.
Yes!
It ain’t that bad
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
OBP and SLG are derivative stats.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
So your saying we should build a wall to keep them out and from taking the jobs of ’Merkin stats?
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Hey, that reminds me, Merkin hasn’t posted in a long while…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Who just added me on facebook. Initials are KD
Show yourself!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 30, 2009 12:45 AM PST reply actions
Oh man. I feel so left out right now.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Sorry, that was me.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Dont lie to me NL!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 3, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
Where can I go to talk myself into free agents?
Is there a class or something? I need the full list of ways I can make this DeRosa signing seem like a real holiday present. Stuff like, “Maybe his BABIP will come back up”, “Maybe his regression last year was due to being traded and not being able to settle down in his personal life”, etc. etc.
LOL MLBTR Comments
for D Lee yes.gold glover, allstar and a power guy. i think its worth it. neal and runzler havn’t proven anything. D Lee has
Yes, this guy is saying he would trade Thomas Neal for Derrek Lee. I’m off to look for more jackassery
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Yeah its just to laugh at people
and almost all of them hate Bowker for some reason.
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
And think the K is the absolute worst outcome for a P.A. on team with average to moderte foot speed and not great base running skills.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Anti-Tyrannosaurus prejudice.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 30, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
As of now
I think that we should sign Adam LaRoche, shift DeRosa out to left, and call it an offseason. Sabean would get the two b-type FA’s that he said he was looking for, we’ll get a better offense, and all without too much trouble.
I remember the word on the street being that LaRoche was looking for 3/18. Give it to him, he’s only 30. He’s decent on D and has consistent offensive numbers.
As they say, git r done sabez.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Yeah that wouldn’t be too bad and it would have the added bonus of keeping velez away, but it does sort of hinder our youth movement a little. i would like to see Schierholtz and Bowker get a big chance to prove themselves with a couple hundred consistent AB’s
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 1:55 AM PST up reply actions
Bowker and Nate could still fight it out for RF.
Personally, I’d be pulling for Nate to win that fight, but there’s no reason that RF can’t be the incubator for the youth movement.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I just hope the contracts don’t block talents like Crawford and Neal from a roster spot in a few years. Granted the contracts have all been two years and Renteria’s is up end of this upcoming year, but i just wish we didnt have to sign over-30 free agents, ’cuz it smells like Old Sabean
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 2:28 AM PST up reply actions
I could go along with say 2 /14 ( Yes, I like the shorter length & the over pay better because I don’t think LaRoche would be anything special so the less he is plugging up the 25 man in what should be one the easier spots to fill the better). But let us not delude ourselves. If LaRoche comes Bowker & Nate will be fighting for bench time not right field. They will play with Torress/Velez in RF.
But with the DeRosa contract i have funny feeling teh team is already near or at its budgett and still with a legit #5 starter or starting catcher not named Posey. the last we know is very important to them.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
I think that RF is Nate’s to lose. Vrooom and torres will likely be the bench, with Torres spelling Rowand in CF to preserve Rowand’s grittiness for the entire year and Velez….ostensibly for matchups in LF though i have no idea why he’s even on the roster
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
the thing is Nate is not viewed as lead off type hitter and he did wellas pinch hitter last year. Those things might not matter enough to you or I but Big Head will let them ( alone with RT at mays needss to a second Cf) talk himself into the Torress/Velez in Rf arrangement.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Just to be clear this is not what I want but I think with most likely play. And so I would rather get use to the idea now and be pleasantly surprised but a random outbreak of common sense than delude myself and but unpleasantly surprised but business as usual.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
So sad that we can’t just have Epstein or even Beane as our GM and we must wish for a miracle =/
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I should note
Doing a Dan Uggla trade on good terms would also be fine with me, that lineup would look something like
Rowand CF
Sanchez 3b
Uggla 2b
Sandoval 1b
DeRosa LF
Bowker/Schierholtz RF
Posey C
Renteria SS
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Actually, fuck it
I’m calling it now. Expect to see Giants-Adam LaRoche rumors pop up increasingly. It’s happening. All the cryptic evidence, the I-dont-know-where-DeRosa-will-play, the desire for “another bat”, the desire for it to be a non-type-a. It all points to LaRoche, if you’re a sane person.
/Prepares to be dead wrong
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I can live with LaRoche
or uggla. I’m fine with both, they’re relatively young and satisfy the dingerz gland while being not totally atrocious on the field. (Uggla is maybe an exception but he could move to first) They will at least cause teams to not pitch around Panda as much…but I’m just waiting to see the Giants sign a complete player like Holliday, though i know even IF that happens I’d hate it. Adam LaRoche has some serious flaws, but he’s definitely make the DeRosa signing better just because he’d be a nice power bat/. Haha it’s sorta late and i think i might have repeated somethings
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 2:32 AM PST up reply actions
I'll raise you one
I could live with LaRoche, Uggla or Damon
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Damon would definitely block Velez. and be a leadoff type hitter too
I like
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
DNW LaRoche at that contract
I don’t like blocking off almost the entire infield from future acquisitions and call-ups, which is what a multi-year deal for LaRoche would do. The only infield position available for improvement is the one that is the hardest to play (SS), and therefore has a smaller pool of players.
Lethargy
It has me
I’m really hoping Crawford will go to triple AAA and play some solid ball. He didnt do too well at AA but it is a hop from A to AA. He seemed legit in the AFL though
er sorry that’s some kind of response to the SS comment
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 2:35 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not against a 3 year deal for LaRoche
The only notable FA 1B of the next couple years will be at the end of next season. The big names (Pujols, Fielder, Howard, Gonzalez) will likely never see free agency, but guys like Overbay and Lee will be available at the end of next year. On top of that, who in the system would be blocked? Ishikawa? Pill? Neal is an outfielder and by reports a pretty decent one. Joseph has yet to play pro ball. Dominguez strikes out a ton. Villalona is not allowed in the country.
Yeah, I’d prefer a two year deal for flexibility, but I don’t really see how a 3 year contract is demonstrably worse. The real key is whether it’s a multi-year contract at all.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
BUT BRETT PILL!!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Best compromise
2 year, $16 million plus a vesting option for a 3rd year. He’s likely the top 1B left in FA and will be more expensive than the older DeRosa. Signing him means DeRosa will be at a corner OF position and Pablo returns to 3rd with VROOM MIA.
As for blocking any 1B/3B, LOL? The Giants have nobody close to the bigs at those 2 positions as Gillespie is far from MLB ready, Crawford will likely be a SS, and AnVil is (sigh).
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 30, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Funny thing at 1st base though is, in a competant franchise, you need to look at all the other postions as well. If the guy has good hands, healthy knees and back he could be shifted their if his current position is filled by a better player.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
The real key is whether it’s a multi-year contract at all.
This is where I stand. I don’t like the multi-year deals at all given where this team stands.
They should be trying to keep that cash free to blow it all in 2011 when Posey is settled, Renteria is gone, and either Bumgarner or Neal are producing to bring the true talent level (in wins) to around 86-87 before free agent signings.
Lethargy
It has me
by dregarx on Dec 30, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+109
I think I am in love.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 31, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Prediction
DeRosa has an OPS+ of 109 next season.
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
Having trouble with insomnia?
Bochy to be on KNBR at ~8:35am. Record it for your sleeping pleasure tonight.
zzzzzzzzz
Botchy excitement at DeRosa… grumble two hole mumble three hole grumble five hole spring training mumble growl mumble bork
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
Until we sign Jermaine Dye, which we’re absolutely going to, then I’m “meh” on this move.
After we sign Jermaine Dye… Well, I haven’t really thought it through: The reality is just too grim.
Dye is bad at baseball
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
BUT BAY AREA TIES!!!! DINGERZ!!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
enh
I bet he goes back to being Jose Uribe again.
Low-risk, though, so no harm really.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
DAMMIt
I bet he goes back to being JUAN URIBE.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
JUAN URBIE!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Plus, even regular Juan Uribe is a useful utility player.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
+1
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
I like it if the Giants find a way to play him at SS
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Plus Sabean and Bochy.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
which is more what i was getting at. If Renteria gets hurt, the Giants may be a better team.
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
Unless of course Renteria actually does well
A man can dream before the season starts, can’t he?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
This is true. I’ll let you hold out hope.
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
yeah if he’s recovered from surgery and hits say, .285/.325/.480
That’d be pretty good and Uribe can just fill in when necessary.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
He’d have to be really bad to become Jose.
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Bad signing b y Giants..I don’t think Uribe will ever be close to what he was last year, strikes out a ton…..
Posted by: Lennyc21
mlbtr people forsee the future.
but they’re also so damn annoying and not chill like us from McC
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Man, we have a lot of backup infielders.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Sabean: “roster flexibility”
McCoven: “backup infielders”
Sabean: “3- or 5-hitter”
McCoven: “pinch-hitter”
Sabean: “speed at the top of the lineup”
McCoven: “no discernible baseball skills”
Sabean: “gamer”
McCoven: “can’t take a pitch to save his children”
Sabean: “not a warrior”
McCoven: “oh, he’s never going to play; besides the Warriors suck!”
Sabean: “kick tires, due dilligence”
McCoven: “pie, rush, pokemon, chicken wrap for lunch”
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 30, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sabean: “youth movement”
McCoven: /swings at a slider that hits him
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Pokemon Chicken Wraps are highly underrated as lunch-fare.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
thank you; my first laugh of teh day
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 30, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
God we are so pessimistic, but its so true
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Xanthan was right?
Proud adoptive daddy for the Big Unit, who is currently teaching Madison Bumgarner the art of being intimidating.
by Speedforthewin on Dec 30, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
Because Xanthan was right last season, Uribe got another contract from the Giants. If Xanthan would have been wrong, Uribe would have never been given another year.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
This causation was strongly implied by correlative factors.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
/ looks at the last couple Aurillia contracts…
Hummmm lars…
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
TWSS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
Paging Andrea Planbee!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgjC6zoDFjw
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Giving up never felt so good
Welcome to Plan B
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I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Dec 30, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
When one is every where and every time at once then it is logical to say one has all the pllan A, B, C’s and every other kind of plan there is.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
While quickly and sloppily photoshopped, I’m surprised I’m the first to make one of these
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
didn’t sabean’s mother take a fistful of these about 50 years ago.
by E Ticket on Dec 30, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
One can only hope.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Nice
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Funny thread title "More On Derosa"
Already with the insults?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Moran!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
I hear that the spring training t-shirts will be reversable.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
They can also be used as car covers.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
Complete with corkscrew and pliers!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
Avatar was pretty okay, you guys. Very pretty. I have my reservations about certain things, but sure, whatever.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
I tried to see it on Monday but pretty much every seat was sold out. I’m only in it for the pretty moving pictures.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
LIES
You just want to oogle the 11 foot tall blue women.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Naked 11-foot tall blue women. Lotsa Na’Vi nipple in that movie.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
And I mean every seat for every showing that day. We showed up for the early show.
/moves over to Fandango
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Damn it, people of Sacramento. Stop buying up all the good IMAX seats way in advance.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Meh
sorry. I hated it; if i knew ahead of time i wouldn’t have bought Imax
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I too enjoyed it. Actually, I enjoyed it quite a bit. The live action 3D was stunning, especially the shot at the beginning where everyone comes out of cryo. The plot? Ehh.
RBIs are irrelevant because – unless a player hits a HR, in which case there better stats (HRs, SLG, ISO) – they are completely dependent on the ability of other players to get on base. Analysis has shown that hitting ability does not appreciably change in "clutch" situations. This means that overall rate stats are far likelier to predict future performance because they AREN’T based on the performance of other players. The RBI is a stat that measures group performance. OBP and SLG measure individual performance.
It was OK
although it might take the George Lucas Award for Most Recycled Story at the Oscars.
I like Giovanni Ribisi, and rooted for his character. Free the poor Unobtainium from its prison! Stop the stretchy blue tigers from hoarding it all!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Unobtainium wins the award for lamest name given to a made up rock in movie history.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
But it’s an actual scientific word! (Sort of) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium
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Interesting.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
They still probably could have come up with something better though.
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I have to give Cameron credit for the balls to call it that.
I am still uninterested in seeing the movie though.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
The balls to do something silly and stupid but be super serious about it?
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
It’s an incredibly stupid fucking name and there’s no way he doesn’t know that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Eh, now that I think about it it’s possible. He does seem pretty far up his own ass about this movie.
I’VE CREATED A WHOLE UNIVERSE NOBODY HAS DONE THAT BEFORE IN A MOVIE!
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Man, they really came close to obtaining it, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
And he referred to them as “blue monkeys” – not blue tigers.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
The 3D is pretty cool.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Well, yeah.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
It’s like they’re coming right at you.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Like they would poke your eye out?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 30, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
I knew they weren’t really there, but I still tried to dodge a few because I was worried about my eyes getting poked out.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I saw The Bicycle Thief at the Roxie.
/crickets
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I hope you reported him.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Roxie FTW
not my speed, but they have a lot of good stuff there.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Mychael Urban: Wow. Probably Dye at this point. Good outfielder, could adapt to RF at AT&T, good RBI guy.
by natteringnabob on Dec 30, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Cowboys and indians IN 3D
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But I enjoyed it.
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Agreed.
I wish it hadn’t been a pretty cut and dry Western Savior story, but at least it tried really hard to make up for it.
I will say that I was pleased to discover that it wasn’t science fiction. It works much better as a fantasy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
It was entertaining. Could have used some more inter-galactic species sexuality, but what movie couldn’t?
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
‘speciality’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 30, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
LaRoche vs. Holliday
I’m actually a huge fan of DeRosa. Trust me, the Cubs made it to the post-season when he played for them, and he was a big part of that lineup. I am worried about his wrist and age, but he’s a hard guy to value solely on stats.
However, if the Giants sign LaRoche to a 3 year, $30M deal, DeRosa is not a good signing. The opportunity cost of Laroche+ DeRosa is basically Matt Holliday. The total of their salaries would be roughly $16M, which is what the Giants could get Holliday for (albeit for 5-6 years at that rate versus 2 and 3 years for the other two). I would much rather have Holliday than those two players; a cheap version of DeRosa like Ronnie Belliard could be added for versatility (along with Uribe). It’s pretty much moot now that DeRosa is a Giant, but it will be sad to see $16M in payroll go for LaRoche and him.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
The Cardinals offer is thought to be 16 million over 8 seasons.
I’d be fine with Holliday at 16 million for maybe 3 seasons, but would rather have LaRoche and DeRosa for the next 2-3 years than Holliday at 16 for 8 years.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
More Meh
http://www.baseballdailydigest.com/2009/12/30/giants-become-versatile%E2%80%A6and-little-else/
Best bit:
In other words, the DeRosa signing may have been a smart signing that will allow the Giants to pursue additional free agents at multiple positions. But while both high and low revenue teams need to make smart signings in order to compete, the high revenue teams are expected to make big signings as well.
ZING!
I must be tired, cuz’ when I read that my eyes all start to glaze over. At 7:30 a.m., an express train traveling 60 miles an hour leaves Sante Fe bound for Phoenix, 520 miles away…At the same time, a local train traveling 30 miles an hour and carrying 40 passengers leaves Phoenix bound for Santa Fe. It’s eight cars along and always carries the same number of passengers in each car. An hour later, a number of passengers equal to half the number of minutes past the hour get off but three times as many plus six get on….
How many times is this picture going to get posted?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 30, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
10 more times
Today
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Until I make a few more comments about sleeping with dudes.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
For the last time, howie, I’m not interested.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I figure my chances improve the more I keep asking.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 30, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Uh…
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i’ve never seen this picture—does she have a name? or does she just go by “Mrs. DeRosa’s wife?”
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 30, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Now that Holliday is probably not going to get over 100 million...
what is the Giants excuse?
No one here gets out alive.
Main excuse: They just spent 15-16 million dollars next year for 3 mediocre infielders.
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
lame.. reports are that its a 5/85 contract sitting on the table right? the giants can afford a five year contract.
No one here gets out alive.
Is that really the rumored contract?
/throws self down the stairs
"If anybody deserves credit for this year’s turnaround it’s these two people, Brian and Bruce," Neukom said. "The encouraging thing is we think we’re back to playing baseball the way it ought to be played."
Who's offering the 5/85 deal?
I know the Cards are willing to go 8/140 and I think the Orioles are breaking the $100 million barrier too because they need something to keep fans semi-excited. I think he’ll take 5/85 only for Boston or NYY, not the Giants. Ultimately, I think he will be back in STL.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 30, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
I’m coming to terms with this deal. It does seem like they’re going after another bat, and DeRosa allows them to get the best available (and affordable) hitter without regard for what position they play. If it’s an infielder, DeRosa’s in LF or RF. If it’s an outfielder, DeRosa’s at 3rd.
Here’s the thing, though… if they aren’t getting Holliday or maybe Damon, there really aren’t any sensible outfield options. Most of the good hitters still available (Uggla, LaRoche, maybe Delgado at the right price) are infielders. So while you all pooh-pooh the notion of DeRosa in the outfield, it seems pretty likely to me at this point.
God I hope they get an Infielder. I do not want to see Velez in the lineup
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Velz & Torress. Batting lead off and playing RF.
/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.
by daveinexile on Dec 30, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
STOP TORMENTING ME! I’m in denial
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 30, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Has anybody pooh-poohed the notion of him playing in the outfield? That’s where I’d like him to play the most.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I meant pooh-poohed the likelihood of it. I think most of us want him out there.
What’s troubling is that while I think the odds are pretty good DeRosa ends up in the outfield, I don’t think he blocks Velez. I think Velez blocks Bowker.
by Monkeyking42 on Dec 30, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Ah. That would be horrific. I’ve gone back into being in denial that they were serious about Velez being the starter.
by chilibean_3 on Dec 30, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
We’re not done talking about hymens.
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Nope
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I think someone has claimed him already.
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I think that I was the first to ask
But I was told to wait for the draft?
And I’m not sure if I qualify.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I read today...
That DeRosa hurt himself swinging at a Randy Johnson changeup and that’s why he sucked as a Cardinal. He says he’ll be 100% for the upcoming season though.
He’ll fit right in as a Giant, swinging at unhittable pitches in the dirt!
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