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The Preemptive I Hate The Mark DeRosa Signing Fanpost

 

A .314 OBP last year? Let's play him in a corner outfield spot! Yes, I know he was better the year before and after Edgar Renteria's All-Star campaign last season it's clear that 34-year-olds usually rebound after a bad season. Seriously, this move is so Brian Sabean I'm amazed it hasn't happened already.

Not confirmed or anything but hey, if it happens I win for getting the thread out early and if it doesn't happen I win by not having to watch Mark DeRosa.

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so yeah

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Dec 26, 2009 4:10 AM PST reply actions  

mmmm

flux capacitor

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 26, 2009 6:21 AM PST up reply actions  

My head is starting to hurt just looking at this

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

my head hurts more thinking about eugenio velez being the starting left fielder

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Dec 26, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

you are a funny guy. you think fred lewis will be on this team next year. har har.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Dec 26, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

:( damn, what about Barry Bonds?? or umm Torres most likely

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

This looks exactly like the balloon animal I made at the county fair this year.

by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 26, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really like where any of those lines are going.

Thing A

by sam23 on Dec 26, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m Waiting for Boof old school and I never remember that these exist when I’m checking. My bad.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Dec 26, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

DNW

The fact that a particular individual hits better than, say, Renteria or Rowand does not mean that the Ginats should be carpet-bombing them with bundles of million dollar bills.

If it means they don’t have money to re-sign Molina, however, I’m all for it.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 26, 2009 6:24 AM PST reply actions  

sad that it comes to that

sort of “I want Mark DeRosa because if he doesn’t sign him, he’s going to sign someone worse.” I actually like Mark DeRosa, but’s he simply not the big bat that’s going to turn around this thing. It’s only a good move if Jason Bay or Matt Holliday are coming with him. Also, what I don’t like even though if it’s an individual award thing, is if you move Panda to first base, you’re probably costing him several all star appearances. David Wright and Ryan Zimmerman are his only competitors at third base, but at first you get Pujols, Howard, Lee, Berkman, Votto, and every other future big bat that stinks in the field.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Dec 26, 2009 6:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I want Mark DeRosa because if he doesn’t sign him, he’s going to play Eugenio Velez 130 games in LF and leadoff.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 26, 2009 6:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Let’s shoot ourselves in the foot so we don’t have to shoot ourselves in the head!

by Evan on Dec 26, 2009 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, I think people are underestimating the possibility that Mark DeRosa might actually be a worse everyday left fielder than Eugenio.

by Evan on Dec 26, 2009 7:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus starting Eugenio possibly hastens the inevitable beginning of the Thomas Neal era!

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Dec 26, 2009 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven't read anyone here who shares my opinion on the matter...

But I am looking forward to Eugenio (Vanomper) Velez getting the majority of the starts in LF against righties. He’s got speed, a .445 slg against them, and I expect him to improve on his .325 OBP last year. The guy is awesome fast and has an awesome middle name, and I am looking forward to seeing him platoon with Torres.

Velez LF
Sanchez 2B
DeRosa 3B
Sandoval 1B
Uribe SS
Bowker RF
Posey C
Rowand CF
Lincecum SP

Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.

by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 26, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

former MVP!

Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.

by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 26, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I will always be a Velezbian...

..if for this alone.
His timing is flawless. You might think it was intentional!

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 28, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

SCREW YOU VELEZ, where’s Freddie Lew?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d be fine with either platooning with Torres.

on an unrelated not, it appears Carlos Delgado has suffered a setback and hasn’t yet played in Winter ball, so unfortunately he may not be a 1B option for the team anymore. At this point i’d want either laroche or derosa, and it appears derosa would be a cheaper option

Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.

by SneakToBetterSeats on Dec 26, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, for sure, i wouldn’t want somebody like Delgado… Torres seemed pretty good last year, defensively and somewhat good at the plate… But there’s something about Lewis i like more than Velez.

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

The fact he actually can take a walk perhaps?

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 26, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Except there’s still the part where, unless Derosa plays LF (which I regard as exceedingly unlikely), he doesn’t actually make the team any better. It’s literally giving money away for nothing.

I wonder if the front office is aware that Derosa is a lousy defensive infielder.

by taliesin on Dec 26, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

a .445 slg against them,

.432 for his career. And he has a nice, shiny .312 OBP against righties to go along with it!.

Also, that’s pretty bad for a corner outfielder. Check out the SLG among qualifying left fielders last year:

1) Raul Ibanez .552
2) Ryan Braun .551
3) Jason Bay .537
4) Matt Holliday .515
5) Hideki Matsui .509
6) Johnny Damon .489
6) Carlos Lee .489
8) Juan Rivera .478
9) Chris Coghlan .460
10) Carl Crawford .452
11) David DeJesus .434
12) Alfonso Soriano .423
13) Scott Podsednik .412
14) Garrett Anderson .401
15) Chase Headley .392

At .432, Velez would rank 12th of 15. Even going from last year’s .445, he’d be own in 11th place. Whoo?

By the way, here are the career lines of two players against righties:

.286 / .362 / .443
.278 / .312 / .432

So, uh, which guy do you think is better?

(hint: one of these guys is Eugenio – the other is The Problem)

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 26, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

His .312 OBP, by the way, would be 14th place among qualifying left fielders.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 26, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Is there anything faster than VROOM???

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

VROOM+1

write down for math exams

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 26, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

And if you compare his overall career OPS - not the split - it would be dead last among qualifying left fielders

Worse than Garret Anderson, Alfonso Soriano, Chase Headley, or Scott Podsednik.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 26, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is…sign Scott Podsednik?

by Wazl on Dec 26, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

PS – I wasn’t asking the question for myself. My friend Brian was wondering.

Actually, never mind, he answered it himself. He’s got Scott on the phone right now.

by Wazl on Dec 26, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

IT'S IN THE CAN!

Who let those creeps from Bauhaus in here?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 28, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Velez does not have speed

In any sense related to scoring runs in baseball. He’s lousy at stealing bases, doesn’t get many infield hits, and isn’t even particularly good at taking extra bases on hits. He just takes way too long to get going.

by taliesin on Dec 26, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah cuz his swing causes him to just stare at the ball for a second before he turns around and runs =/

Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?

by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 27, 2009 12:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m coming around to the idea that throwing Velez out there for free might be a better idea than wasting money on any of the available guys in a multi year deal. I’d much rather have Lewis out there, but I’d really rather have Velez than DeRosa on a 3 year deal and I haven’t decided if I think a 2 year deal for DeRosa seems like a better plan or not.

Thing A

by sam23 on Dec 26, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m coming around to the idea that throwing Velez Lewis and Bowker out there for free might be a better idea than wasting money on any of the available guys in a multi year deal.

Fixed.

Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !

by nvsfg on Dec 27, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope, not looking forward to the Baron Pickoff von Ironglove getting regular playing time. Not at all. I do not want to see Zorak in a Giants’ uni or Fast Black Abraham Lincoln in any way associated with this team.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 26, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

We shoulda chipped in and got him a 1st-baseman’s glove for christmas—he’d be here
in April.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Dec 26, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Infinity loop… Dividing by zero… Does not compute…

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 26, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

not happening

Brain and Bork are not going to take a versatile gamy infield vet like DeRosa and move him to LF, especially with VROOOOOOOOOOOOM

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 26, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Even if Velez is assigned the leadoff spot, he’s not guaranteed anything, because he’s too young. Sabean and Bochy will cool off from him by the time he’s hitting .238/.277/.377. The experiment will be over within a couple months. Which, while a couple months too long, will still be better than guaranteeding a gamey vet 150 games to prove he’s not worth a starting role, a la Randy Winn, 2009.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Dec 26, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I should say, he’s too cheap to be guaranteed a starting job. Soon as they’re paying him $5 mil a year, THEN Velez would be guaranteed a job.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Dec 26, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

The biggest single thing about this choice is just how badly it smacks of starting the season with Burriss at 2nd instead of Frandsan.

  Niether of those two should make fan jump for jump but it was obvious Frandsan was much more polished and ready for the MLB gig. So Bork! & the Sabean go for the guy least ready to succeed and most likely to fail in the short term. What end of July cluster Fuggen’ will those two idiots do so "solve" this problem this year?

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 26, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

they'll run out and overpay for mediocrity

of course. I’m not saying they’ll stick with Velez if he’s 0 for April, but by then DeRosa will have savvied in nicely in a lineup spot in the infield.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 26, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Just wondering…Are we the most pessimistic fans in baseball?

Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?

by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 26, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

not lately

we’re close, but been to true blue lately ?

by giantdonkey on Dec 26, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that distinction went to Cubs fans.

by Merope on Dec 26, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Imagine being a KC Royals or a Pirates fan. They must start each day with big helping of pessimism for breakfast, hot, steamy disinterest for lunch, and a big plate of sad for dinner.

Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !

by nvsfg on Dec 26, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

with a snack on andrew mccutchen

by sfoakbay on Dec 26, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

how about being a fan of an AL east team that’s not the Red Sox or Yankees? What’s the point? Any positive move your team makes is designed to try and get them to third place.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Dec 26, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

even tougher

i mean, all you can do is hope the sox or yanks falter, and on top of that win 90-100 games for the wild card

by sfoakbay on Dec 26, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Point..

They should just make the Yankees and Red Sox their own Division.

Since they are the only teams in baseball according to ESPN, they can just battle it out in alternating weekend series all year long.

They could show the games on Fox, ESPN, NESN, and the YES networks. No one else would have to listen to Joe Suck and Tim McStupid.

Then the winner has to go to the Dominican, Japan, and PR to play in a true world series. The rest of the MLB teams get to play in the US version.

Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !

by nvsfg on Dec 27, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Fuck it, I'd be down with the YESSOX Network

It beats watching two teams trying not to win for fourteen innings….

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 28, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, a person only get this my RAGE, anger and bitterness because there is hope things and the know there is hope of good things. The truly cynical have no such glimmer of hope and are immune to it’s call because they don’t hear it. Talk with most Royals fans. Or M’s Fans about 2 -3 years ago. They knew the disasters were evitable and nothing would change that.

 If nothing else we do have new chief owner ( Grand Pubah or whatever the title is this week) and new chief owners are known for making mistakes as well as not really sticking with the same course of action from every 6 months to the next 6 months for the first 2-3 years of their reign.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Dec 27, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Have you ever noticed that when you RAGE your spelling is impeccable?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 28, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I hadn’t. I always figured the faster I tried to go or the stronger the emmotion the worse my spelling & Grammar got.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Dec 28, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

DAVE

This is an excellent observation: the Velez Plan is eerily similar to The Burriss Plan. I am expecting similar results. I can only hope that this means that John Bowker will begin getting LF starts in June.

Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.

by Lyle on Dec 26, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If Bowker is the Kevin Frandsen of the outfield, I believe we’ll be referring to him as BowLOLker by the middle of the season. He’s already drawn the anger of Sabes, so he’s on his way.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Dec 26, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Torres.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 27, 2009 7:08 AM PST up reply actions  

From your lips to Gods ears. It is far more likely to be a Madison & Crawford trade for Sarge jr. & Jaun Peirre. Because being with in 10 games of the wild card means " We are in this thing."

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Dec 27, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Why don’t you think so?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Dec 26, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Because…he reads this blog. DUNH DUNH DUNNNNNNNNNNHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 26, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than nobody in my opinion

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions  

That same logic was probably used when the Giants signed Rowand and Renteria. And… yea.

by deuce deuce on Dec 26, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

But, signing Rowand was more of a HEY LETS SPEND 42063253452345 dollars on Rowand to just get somebody… Concerning Derosa, this is a guy who can play pretty much any position in the field, and yea, he had an off year last year… but has it been confirmed that he’s been signed?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

can play pretty much any position in the field

He plays the field poorly, at least at second or third (~ -6 UZR), his most likely infield positions. He’s about as bad as Pablo at third, and I’d guess Pablo will improve, which is not in the cards for Derosa.

by taliesin on Dec 26, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

“as bad as Pablo at third”? was Pablo even really that bad at 3rd? I would be ok with him playing wherever, hell, short stop would be great

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Pablo had a -6 UZR at third last season. That’s bad, worse than all but a handful of reasonably regular third basemen. (This is the crux of the argument in favor of signing Adrian Beltre, BTW.)

The “qualified” third basemen worse than Pablo according to UZR is an interesting list: Chipper Jones, Michael Young, Alex Rodriguez, David Wright.

by taliesin on Dec 26, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, and we’d never have a shot at them, i’m perfectly fine with Pablo at 3rd, you agree with that though?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

No, this is an early “get your freak on” thread, so that people can practice over reacting and sharpen their harakiri knives well in advance of any actual signing.

by Merope on Dec 26, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

But, signing Rowand was more of a HEY LETS SPEND 42063253452345 dollars on Rowand to just get somebody… Concerning Derosa, this is a guy who can play pretty much any position in the field, and yea, he had an off year last year… but has it been confirmed that he’s been signed?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

this

also watch when the same haters start the WHAT THE HELL WAS SABEAN DOING THIS OFFSEASON NOT DOING ANYTHING threads

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Dec 26, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, in the end heimy… There’s always somebody that will be pissed off about what the giants do… why dont we just see what happens

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

word.

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Dec 26, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

You Lose!

We just traded who for who?!

by BawLa on Dec 26, 2009 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 26, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Contorted Gene Wilder is contorted.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 28, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I SAID GOOD DAY!

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 28, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

But overall, whatevers cheap i’ll be good with, just because of the money they’d have to spend on Lincecum and Cain… but hey, it’s not my problem now is it

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

until you can prove to me that the rich bastards who own the Giants’ can’t afford to expand payroll to whatever it takes to win, I’m going to expect them to sign everyone that they need to sign.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Dec 26, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

well then you will be severely disappointed, why would one “expect” anything to happen, when you have “expectations” you tend to be disappointed or pissed off when those “expectations” don’t come true. And plus dude, we don’t know who they NEED to sign, i’m not a scout nor a money man, so i dont know how much they’re asking for nor do i know how’ll they’ll do this next year once they’re signed

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

you tend to be disappointed or pissed off when those "expectations" don’t come true.

Strong statement.

I once fell asleep doing 70 with a BAC of “Fucked up”. You might expect disaster, however nothing but good came of it.

  People expect our pitching and offense to regress. Why, because they were successful and that just shouldn’t be? And if we don’t get a transfusion of some new (or at the very least “new to us”) players our offense will revert to statistical form? Hell, I always hold out ignorant Hope© that the trainers will get ‘em eating Vitameatavegamins an’ the reanimated head of Ted Williams will impart sweet knowledge and all hitches will be beaten out with broomsticks (which will then be deposited far, far up Rowand’s tightly clenched chute) an’…

-pant pant pant -

…I’m OK now. Thanks.
Relax, dude. Light up, drink up, whatever.
Get your chi spot sweet with Zito tweets or something.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 28, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

haha, good deal dude, it’s too early in the morning to drink

by PiKAgiant on Dec 28, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s not a bad deal on the scale of wasting money, but it’s probably a bad deal on the scale of actively making the team worse if he’d be the left fielder over Fred Lewis. I realize Fred Lewis isn’t going to get played anyway, but at some point you can’t use Sabean stupidity as a defense for his stupidity, y’know?

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Dec 26, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

Super (f)utility glut

What happens when we sign both DeRosa AND Uribe?

by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 26, 2009 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

does anybody believe that DeRosa is being signed to be a utility man?

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Dec 26, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve got a mal-functioning fan in the bathroom, send him over!

by Merope on Dec 26, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Light a candle.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Dec 27, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

FARTFANFACT: Some fart fans are purely ornamental.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 28, 2009 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

meh

just a sandwich pick

by TBRMKane on Dec 26, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Clay Buchholz

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Dec 26, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

A sandwich pick would have been pretty nice to have.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 26, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I still don’t get why we didn’t.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 26, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

THEY'RE SO COMPLICATED! NUMBERS!

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 26, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I was shocked when I heard he said that when he was talking about not offering arb to Big $

I was on a retreat and I heard he said that and I was pissed because isn’t that his job to help the team, even if he has to work… A wonder what its like having a competent GM

Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think it's the work that really bother him.

I think he just doesn’t like dealing with unknowns in the payroll. If he isn’t sure how much a guy is going to get in arbitration (and there’s never a way to be 100%), then he’s got to leave payroll open for the worst case scenario. Even if the team ends up winning all its arbitration cases, there won’t be anyone around worth spending the money on by the time the rulings come down; so it’s really a no-win situation

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Dec 27, 2009 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Fair point

but guys like Molina & Howry could’ve been useful to the team and that could’ve saved him (and us) some headaches instead of being forced to sign guys like Miguel Olivo or relying on a bunch of young arms (like Joaquin & Runzler) for a whole year. But him saying he didn’t want to deal with another arb case left a bad taste in my mouth.

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by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it is highly debatable that Molina & Howry in 2010 ( both or a package) is upgrade over presant in house options.

In Howry’s case we run into the fact Sabean seems to have understood for years. Non Elite pitchers tend to dicey and fungible to you are better off going with the cheaper arm with better “stuff”. Now if he and Bork would just apply that logic to the position player side of the 25 man we might actually get somewhere above the 80’s in win totals.

/ Chants, " Olivio, Jacobs, Podsednik" Then smacks head with a 1 X 6. This will continue tell the pain decreases and moral improves.

by daveinexile on Dec 27, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Let me rephrase

I thought Posey should’ve been the everyday catcher from the day he was brought up-I don’t care that he doesn’t know the pitchers. As for Howry- we can never have too many bullpen arms and if Joaquin & Runzler (and others) do well enough then we could ship him or someone else off to another team.

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by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

In all fairness though, the deal is probably less than what he would have made in arbitration and thus he probably would have preferred to pitch in AT&T and behind the starting rotation that ate up the most inning in the NL. He would have been overpaid pitching for us.

While the pick would have been nice, middle relief is not where we need to spend the money this off season.

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by jctGamer on Dec 26, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

so instead

it will be thrown at DeRosa? I’d much prefer a sandwich.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 26, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandwiches > DeRosa, most things

by Monkeyking42 on Dec 26, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

So instead

it will be thrown at the long haired FREAKy people( who need not apply)?

SANDWICH FACT: You really don’t want to know how many pillars of salt go into Subway’s BMT but after a concert once I ate two of those babies – double meat an’ heated – back to back.

Greasy goodness.
But that was in the 80s…doing that now will seriously cramp your financial style.

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by victor frankenstein on Dec 28, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe this will make Buster Posey happy. He could hit a game winning home run as a rookie.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Dec 26, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It will make bust sad

Because he was one of the few relievers who seemed to know where the ball was going most of the time.

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by Bhaakon on Dec 26, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

he will be replaced by Joe Martinez on the roster.
Justin Miller will be replaced by Runzler

The rest of the bullpen is unchanged. (although I wouldn’t bet on merkin valdez making the team, joaquin might take his spot)

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by jctGamer on Dec 26, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn

Affeldt
Romo
Runzler
Joaquin
Bumgarner(?)
Wilson

Thats a great bullpen

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 26, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, Joaquin isn’t bad, Romo is pretty good, Runzler was damn good last year… Bumgarner in the bullpen to start out would be awesome

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

the question mark is MEHdders

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by jctGamer on Dec 26, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, him and Martinez are fine. Theyre not as strong as the rest, but theyre…. meh. Medders has his moments.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 26, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, medders did have his moments, but then that Dodger game happened….

by PiKAgiant on Dec 26, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Medders actually surprised me

because when he was in AZ and he came in the Giants would actually hit him. When he came in for the Giants he did well most of the time

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by Gobroks on Dec 26, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, most of the time he did pretty well

by PiKAgiant on Dec 27, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

He was a very serviceable Middle Reliever

Those guys are extremely valuable to a playoff contender

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by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

And he’s gone i believe, right? i mean there’s got to be other guys to fill the spot, and he was very serviceable, i totally agree

by PiKAgiant on Dec 27, 2009 12:24 AM PST up reply actions  

No, he was tendered a contract

Miller is gone though

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by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, well damn, Miller’s gone? he wasn’t that bad either

by PiKAgiant on Dec 27, 2009 12:40 AM PST up reply actions  

He was good for most of the year

then he hit a wall. But he was very good as a Long reliever which surprised me because I saw him more as a MR. But now he signed with the Dodgers to a Minor league deal WIST

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by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, good for him for finding another job… well, he’s an LA guy, so he’s probably happy down there, but yea i totally saw him as a MR, but he did well as a LR, taking over for Cain that one game against the Pads last year

by PiKAgiant on Dec 27, 2009 12:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah he did well in that role

but once he hit that wall in August…it went bad quickly.

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by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 12:51 AM PST up reply actions  

There were a few players that hit a wall as the season came closer to an end

by PiKAgiant on Dec 27, 2009 12:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah,

Cain struggled, Valdez struggled, Pablo struggled a little…Next year should be better especially with the Dodgers going through a nasty divorce.

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by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

hes dead to me now that hes a dodger

Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010

by sanfrankid on Dec 28, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Serviceable middle relievers are valuable to contenders.

But they’re also difficult to predict. Other than elite closers and setup men, the only constant in the bullpen is inconsistency.

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by Bhaakon on Dec 27, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That's true

last year was Medders first good year-That’s why he was signed to a Minor league deal WIST

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by Gobroks on Dec 27, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Any chance Stoffel makes it to the MLB at the end of the season like Runzler did this year?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 26, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

it could happen but i wouldn’t count on it

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by jponry on Dec 26, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

okay

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 27, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

There’s a chance, but it is remote.

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by cornball on Dec 26, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

"great bullpen"

When half the bullpen is rookie/1st yr type its hard to predict.
We are hoping Affeldt repeats his season
Romo struggled a for a decent stretch.

Whether they had flukish seasons or not medders/miller/howry not in the bullpen means lots of appearances will be need to be picked up by other relievers.

by MagicMike23 on Dec 26, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Umm...

Romo was pretty lights out dude. He allowed 40% of his runs for the season in two games (@ PIT & ATL). That wasn’t a decent stretch. It was a brief blip on the radar letting everyone know he is human.

Joaquin and Runzler will have a lot of proving to do, no doubt. But they should get plenty of lower stress (relatively) innings because Romo, Affeldt and Wilson will eat up all the high stress innings.

We just traded who for who?!

by BawLa on Dec 26, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at one of those PIT games

Matt Cain pitched a beauty, but no Giant got a hit until Matt doubled off the CF wall. We finally got him some runs and got the lead, then Romo (my son!) came up and got out nobody. Wilson had to do a 1+ inning save. I was so disappointed to finally see Sergio in person and have it go so poorly.

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Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.

by Lyle on Dec 28, 2009 5:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Bumgarner is currently the #5 starter, mostly because there is no one else.

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by cornball on Dec 26, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

12M per

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by jctGamer on Dec 27, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If he gets 75% of that, I’m going to start asking for $100 monthly memberships to this site. Apparently, it wouldn’t hurt to ask for ridiculous things.

by Grant Brisbee on Dec 29, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather have kept Garko for cheaper.

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by ResDog on Dec 28, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

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