While it might not be my first choice, having the versatile DeRosa AND Uribe signed to cheap deals won’t be the end of the world. We basically have non-awful insurance in case any of our upside plays (Velez, Bowker, Ishikawa, Schierholtz) or injury risks (Renteria and Mr. F) don’t pan out.

This is probably better than breaking the bank for a more expensive but probably not as good free agent. But it’s still not super exciting.

If it means less time for Velez

Mark DeRosa is leaning towards accepting a two-year deal from the Giants, reports Buster Olney of ESPN.com.

Just yesterday it was rumored that the Giants offered DeRosa a two-year, $12 million contract, so perhaps the market for the veteran utility player wasn’t as strong as once thought. Should he sign with San Francisco, DeRosa would step into a full-time gig, likely at third base, with Pablo Sandoval making the switch over to first base, where he’ll be less of a liability in the long-term.

Less of a fucking liability? So basically, Sandoval is currently a liability at 3rd, and would still be a liability at 1st, but LESS of one. What a joke of a website.

:( and I had just finished rosterbating the perfect scenario offseason with LaRoche at first, Damon in left and Bedard at the back of the rotation with Bumgarner to step in when he gets injured

DeRosa is projected to put up a .344 wOBA in 548 PA’s. Overall he is projected to put up a 2.4 WAR season.

If that projection proves to be true this is a pretty good signing.

I DON’T KNOW WHO THIS IS.

(Catching on as a meme yet??)

It’s hard to project DeRosa’s value because he plays so many different positions which affects his positional adjustment.

DeRosa as an outfielder probably has more value than an infielder because he is actually pretty decent out there while being atrocious in the infield.

hard for me to get too worked up either way… small upgrade for not that much money and not many years. Unless this $$$ keeps us from getting something else (e.g., another RafRod signing) I’m fine with it. I don’t see this is getting us to the playoffs though.

I don’t want him as our starting third baseman, but because of his versatility I think he’ll eventually wind up somewhere where he helps the team more. The Giants better have one big OF signing yet up their sleeves though, because if this is the end of it, the offense will still stink.

I like this better than if they’d signed someone like LaRoche who only plays one position. Lets say Ishikawa kicks ass in spring training – now he’d be able to win a job since DeRosa could be moved to left. Same thing with Bowker or Schierholtz – if one of them steps up and claims a job, then DeRosa can move to third, or even second of Franchez goes down. And if everyone is healthy and playing well, then the Giants have some solid depth, especially if Uribe is back too. Maybe not the splashy move everyone was wanting, but as long as its only a two year deal, it makes sense.

but I think eventually I could trick myself into being okay with this.

I can’t believe the Giants’ signed (insert FA here) for (insert contract amount here)!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, that is contingent on it meaning that DeRosa will play LF. Like most of you, I still like his versatility, if it is ever needed (it will be). I just hope Sabean is signing him with the intention of making him the starting LF. That would send a message that, A) Velez is not the starting LF and B) more moves may be made (Uggla or Overbay). At least, I hope that is the message that would be sent.

I still believe the potential exists for some positive, realistic moves to be made to get this team’s offense closer to average, but it is all contingent on where Sabean plans on fitting the pieces. If he envisions DeRosa as the starting 3B, I don’t have much hope. But, if he sees DeRosa as solving the LF puzzle, and he has more moves on the horizon (maybe Uribe as the SS, if Renteria fails, which is likely), along with a 1B solution, then I think we may, just may, get to an average offense next year.

We’ll just have to see way Sabean goes from here, assuming DeRosa signs.

DeRosa’s career UZR/150 at 3b is roughly identical to Pablo’s last year.

But a cursory glance at DeRosa’s hittracker suggests to me that his power would translate well to AT&T. Most of his LF HR’s would make it, and the ones to RF would either make it or be doubles off the wall

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2009_4695&type=hitter

I think Im Ok with this

Uribe, DeRosa and Sanchez? Really? Why can’t the team afford Bay or Holliday? DeRosa hasn’t hit his Renteria-like decline yet but this sort of two-year vet deal is repeated again and again and is frustrating. Individually, the terms of these contracts isn’t so bad, but add them together and they suck because a team only needs so many versatile vets on versatile vet-type contracts. You also need some star players, and some young guys that can play the bench and backup role. Hopefully, this is a one of Uribe or DeRosa situation.

DeRosa career UZR/150 at 3b from Fangraphs: -6.5
Pablo’s: -6.4

Who do you think is more likely to hit 20 home runs next year: DeRosa, Bengie Molina, Rowand, Ishikawa+Garko, Bowker?

and having to pay him more money. And have him be a butcher on D.

Yeah, most of his right field HR’s are past the 350 mark which is well beyond our brick wall…so that’s good at least

well… shit

According to ESPN’s Buster Olney, Mark Derosa is leaning toward taking the giants two year, 12 million dollar offer, and I wonder: How is this an upgrade over Ryan Garko?

 

Here is Derosa’s line for 2009
.250 23 78 .319 .433



.250 23 78 .319 .433



BA HR RBI OBP OPS

.250 23 78 .319 .752

 

And Garko’s

.268 13 51 .344 .765

 

So while Derosa hit for better power, he had a lower BA, OBP and OPS, oh yeah and he’ll cost about 3-4 million more per year. Throw in the fact that he has a substantial injury history, and this might actually be a downgrade from one to the other.

Finally, here’s the numbers for Juan Uribe who the Giants are also supposed to sign in the next day or two.

.289 16 55 .329 .824

Uribe is a much better defensive player than either Garko or Derosa, and his numbers came in limited playing time at the very park that strikes fear in to the hearts of agents across the country. Given the fact that he’s most likely cheaper than either Garko or Derosa, why would you spend the money on either. If you’re going to go after someone in this category, sign X Nady who has a much higher upside than any of these players—remember he broke all of Jeff Kent’s records at Cal—and has better power, or give one of the homegrown players a chance and try to make a trade come July.

Good to see Sabean has thought this through, and I’m sure he sees something I don’t.

Thoughts? and Merry Christmas Robby Thompson wherever you are!

From Buster:" Mark DeRosa is leaning toward taking the two-year offer from the Giants. Not a done deal, though."

 

thoughts??? had 23 HRs last year which already puts him a close second behind Pablos 25 last year. He batted .250 but plays almost any position on D. He will most likely play 3rd, while giving rests to Sanchez and pablo and even possible who ever our LF is.

 

wat you guys think?

 

GO GIANTS!! lets get hitters, ptching staff like this will not last forever! get hitter NOW! people will come to watch and making the playoffs will make money!! its worth it for everyone!

Ball sack. I am not a fan of this signing. Not at all.