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McCovey Chronicles Community Prospect List #17

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Waldis with a close win.  Here is our list so far:

    1. Buster Posey
    2. Madison Bumgarner
    3. Thomas Neal
    4. Zack Wheeler
    5. Roger Kieschnick
    6. Tommy Joseph
    7. Brandon Crawford
    8. Rafael Rodriguez
    9. Dan Runzler
    10. Nick Noonan
    11. Conor Gillaspie
    12. Ehire Adrianza
    13. Francisco Peguero
    14. Hector Sanchez and Jason Stoffel
    16. Waldis Joaquin

For #17, we have the following options:

Brock Bond

Jorge Bucardo

Jose Casilla

Chris Dominguez

Darren Ford

Matt Graham

Jesus Guzman

Brett Pill

Ryan Rohlinger

Henry Sosa

Clayton Tanner

Each player should have a link to Baseball Cube in their first name and a link to First Inning in their last name if they are available.  The poll will close Saturday at noon, unless it's clear enough to call, then it will be earlier.

Poll
Who is the Giants #17 prospect?
Brock Bond
6 votes
Jorge Bucardo
24 votes
Jose Casilla
2 votes
Chris Dominguez
20 votes
Darren Ford
39 votes
Matt Graham
3 votes
Jesus Guzman
15 votes
Brett Pill
28 votes
Ryan Rohlinger
2 votes
Henry Sosa
19 votes
Clayton Tanner
43 votes

201 votes | Poll has closed

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Brett Pill's time to shine at last?

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 23, 2009 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

Sticking with Pill.

Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !

by nvsfg on Dec 23, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS!

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Dec 23, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Eastern League MVP (almost)

After reading countless comments here over the years to the effect of “Let’s see if xyz can do it in the upper minors before we get excited” I think it’s time to give some credit to someone who has actually delivered in AA. It doesn’t bother me to hear him described as a poor man’s Ishikawa all that much because I think Ishikawa is continuing to progress and is currently underrated by most of the Coven.

by NearestNorwich on Dec 24, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Ishikawa in underrated?

How so?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...

by baetown415 on Dec 24, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

“I’m not a power hitter.”

by Rorsavelt on Dec 27, 2009 6:01 AM PST up reply actions  

'bout damn time!

I felt like a little league dad pleading for my son to get a chance

But seriously, folks, he may not have the highest upside in the world, but along with Posey, he represents the closest thing we have to MLB-ready bats. That ought to count for something on a team starving for offense.

Case rested

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Dec 23, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t understand how his defense can possibly be so bad, even at 1b. If he can hit a baseball, shouldn’t he have the coordination to catch one as well?

Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.

by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 23, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

oh god if Pill wins this I will not be pleased

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 23, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

Knives out!

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 23, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that Waldis is gone I am lost.

by chilibean_3 on Dec 23, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

pssst...

…all the cool kids are voting for Ford. Pass it on!

Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo. Looking forward to adopting Justin Smoak.

by Lyle on Dec 23, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I voted for Ford

So I’m cool right?

Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Dec 23, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

wait, YOU voted for Ford?

nevermind, all the cool kids are voting for bucardo now

by sfoakbay on Dec 23, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I dont care what you guys think

/runs away crying

Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Dec 23, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a threepeat offender who played well for about 2.5 months.

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there anywhere to get stats on Graham? I don’t like to vote for someone else when I don’t know what he’s done.

by quincy0191 on Dec 23, 2009 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

High school pitcher, just drafted

So, not really. You can read some stuff about him here.

Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.

by marcello on Dec 23, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty much

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.

by j14 on Dec 23, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 23, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Hear Hear

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Dec 23, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

But we’ve definitely reached the point where all the remaining contenders are decidedly “meh.”

by taliesin on Dec 24, 2009 6:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.

by tedfordfan on Dec 25, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Ford or Tanner. Meh.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 23, 2009 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

quick thoughts on the candidates!

Bond: His upside is Skip Schumaker, and that’s a longshot.

Bucardo: The K rate isn’t great and the fastball isn’t fast, but smart people say he’s got potential, so okay.

Casilla: Reportedly has great stuff, but has had arm problems.

Dominguez: I’m ranking him as a prospective pitcher, basically. Yes, he can hit home runs, but as one of the oldest players in his league, he struck out 64 times and walked 9 in 195 at-bats.

Ford: His year looks a lot like the year Rajai Davis had in high-A at the same age. Except for all the strikeouts.

Graham: A classic Texas high-school power arm. Needs a lot of work.

Guzman: Looks like a slugger in this organization, but an 886 OPS in the PCL is nothing special, especially for a weak-fielding first baseman. Turns 26 next season.

Pill: A poor man’s Travis Ishikawa. Woo-hoo!

Rohlinger: You could make a case that he’s the best in-house candidate to be the starting shortstop for the Giants next year. But that doesn’t make him a prospect.

Sosa: Terrible at AA, but maybe it was just an off-year. I assume he’ll be a reliever next year.

Tanner: A lefty Kevin Pucetas? A poor man’s Scott Barnes? Not sure what people see in him.

Conclusion: all of the pitchers are better prospects than any of the hitters. I’m going Graham, Casilla, Bucardo.

by Evan on Dec 23, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Dominguez – Tidrow smiles

by wilriv21 on Dec 23, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you think of Ryan Cavan?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Dec 23, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t know anything about him, but as a 16th round draft pick, he’s going to need more than one good year in short-season league before I give him much thought. It was a good year, though.

by Evan on Dec 24, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I went with Graham. Risky as all hell but lots of upside, and the Giants develop pitchers well.

by Dan from NM on Dec 24, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Jesus raptor

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 23, 2009 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

MEH

bucardo, then ford, graham after that

by sfoakbay on Dec 23, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

Bucardo then Casilla for me. I don’t have to think any further out than that because we’ll be at 30 by the time I get them both voted in.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Dec 23, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

Bucardo, again

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 23, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

Ford then Tanner

Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010

by Gobroks on Dec 23, 2009 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

everyone here has their cons so

I’ll go with Casilla. He got my attention last year, so I’m going to vote for him without backing it up at all.
Since if I think about it too much , or am influenced by other people’s comments, then I might change my mind. And at this point they’re all basically crap shots and interchangeable players at this point, so might as well just pick personal favorites

Although theirs is definitely talent here, anyone of these players could break out with a great year or totally crash and burn, and we wouldn’t be to surprised either way.

by NateEveryday on Dec 23, 2009 5:57 PM PST reply actions  

Tanner

On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry

by MadBum on Dec 23, 2009 6:53 PM PST reply actions  

Can anyone explain why Tanner is leading the voting, and Bucardo is in second

but Craig Clark is not even on the poll?

Its funny because fuck the dodgers

by kvdp12 on Dec 23, 2009 8:33 PM PST reply actions  

Because not enough people thought Craig Clark should be in the poll to put him in?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 23, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Craig Clark

But he was 24 in A+. Tanner is 3 years younger, that is important.

Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.

by marcello on Dec 23, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

ARL

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 24, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Coin-toss between Bucardo and Tanner.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 24, 2009 9:10 AM PST reply actions  

Also

I was just noticing that Jose Casilla has been in the poll for a while but he’s still getting very few votes. Aside from his b-r profile, I for one don’t know anything about him. Anyone care to elaborate on his virtues or lack thereof?

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 24, 2009 9:12 AM PST reply actions  

It looks like he has a great sinker to go with (what i remember) being a low-to-mid 90’s fastball. He has good K/9 and K/BB numbers, but as Roger said last time, that might have a little to do with him coming out of the ‘pen. Hopefully next year they make him a starter, he’s supposedly got good stuff, and I’m crossing my fingers that he makes it up to AA this year, I’m kinda close to Richmond

Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.

by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 24, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Voted

Darren Ford!

Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?

by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 24, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

bond got no traction

so lets put Matt Downs on the ballot. A year older than his former SJG teammate, and played 1 level higher, with flashy stats. Did not embarass self in the bigs, with a homer and 2 dbls in 53 ABs. Will turn 26 during spring training, that is older than anybody we’ve put on this list so far. But Downs did make it last year, around #22 i think

cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"

by foothillsfan on Dec 26, 2009 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

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