Rick Ankiel: Cheap power for a weird organization?
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 21, 2009 4:23 PM PST
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PrintI swore I wasn't going to do another "What about this free agent?" post, but they're like crack. I'll get this over with, n00b-FanPost-style:
What about Rick Ankiel? He's a low-OBP, low-BA hacker with serious power who was busted for HGH, but didn't fall off a cliff until the season after, so maybe the decline is unrelated, but he'd be cheap on a one-year deal, and his wOBA was just above .360 the previous two years, yet his defense isn't great shakes, though his arm is tops, and left-handed hitters usually don't hit for power in San Francisco, but maybe Ankiel is an exception. Thoughts????
Ugh. I hate the offseason. What's even worse is that when rosterbating, you have to look at things from the Giants' warped perspective. "So, assuming that Eugenio Velez is a leadoff hitter and corner outfielder worth starting, and assuming that John Bowker is not a good soldier who can help a baseball team by soldiering, what free agents should we look at?"
Rick Ankiel doesn't make sense on a team that should give Bowker a chance to be a cheap, OBP-friendly Ankiel. But you know what they say about hitters who don't like Venezuela: they will consume your team from the inside out like little nanobots shaped like piranha-dogs. I think Earl Weaver used to say that. Makes sense. Why judge a player on a full AAA season when you can judge the player on their willingness to spend their winter in a country with one of the worst murder rates in the world? Man up, and don't get murdered, Nancy.
But if the Giants are going to ignore the existence of Fred Lewis, if Bowker doesn't have a chance to get 400 at-bats with the Giants, and if Nate Schierholtz just swung at a slider that hit his back leg, the Giants will need an outfielder or two. Eugenio Velez is currently penciled in as a starter, despite not having a baseball-related skill (other than raw speed) that's even average.
Eugenio Velez is currently penciled in as a starter, despite not having a baseball-related skill (other than raw speed) that's even average.
When you put it that way, sure, you'll start thinking about players like Ankiel, Xavier Nady, and Ryan Church. What's even more frightening is that Eugenio Velez is currently penciled in as a starter, despite not having a baseball-related skill (other than raw speed) that's even average. So I wouldn't be devastated by a one-year, show-me deal to a guy like Ankiel, who's one of the few players on the market capable of hitting 30 homers for less than $5M. It doesn't make sense until you fall down the rabbit hole in front of the Giants' executive offices, but once you're down, you start hoping for things like this.
What would make the decision easier, though, is if I knew what Ankiel would hit over a stretch of random at-bats in July. And would Ankiel happily go to Venezuela? I have no idea. This player evaluation stuff is hard!
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 22, 2009 1:09 AM PST up reply actions
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
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Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 22, 2009 5:43 AM PST up reply actions
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 21, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Weighted five-day-old Chinese food.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
I guess anything except Velez playing in left field everyday.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
One one hand, I’m not all that interested in seeing the Giants get an OF that isn’t Matt Holliday. On the other, that OF will probably block Velez. Sigh.
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Eugenio Velez is currently penciled in as a starter, despite not having an baseball-related skill (other than raw speed) that’s even average.
Thing C
hey guys, I just found this site. perhaps you can help me out. I see the giants have Eugenio Velez penciled in as a starter. I seem to have read somewhere, however, that he doesn’t have any baseball related skills (other than raw speed).
whats up with THAT?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
What would make the decision easier, though, is if I knew what Ankiel would hit over a stretch of random at-bats in July. And would Ankiel happily go to Venezuela? I have no idea. This player evaluation stuff is hard!
/laughs
/cries
I guess I want to stay away from Ankiel, if only because that would lead to a greater probability that Bowker would get ABs despite his subpar soldiering. But man, the Giants player evaluation methods just could not possibly inspire less confidence.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I am coming to believe that none of the available outfielders are worth pursuing, given the cost, and that the best option is to hope we get lucky with one of the youngish LH and one improves his game (or gets at-bats and produces), and we wait for Eugenio fail and then re-evaluate in May.
Also, did a Giants brass member say or imply that Bowker was a poor soldier?
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
Sabean mentioned he was “disappointed” he didn’t stay down in the winter leagues. JB got an injury and mainly wanted to come back because they had very little training facilities down there. from what i hear, he is training hard in the off-season. It is not like he left to go sit on the couch. Hopefully all this “bad soldiering” won’t come back to hurt him next spring.
Yeah, cause our front office does not seem like the types to hold grudges or keep singular events in their mind as the basis for an entire season’s worth of decisions.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
i don’t mind adding an OF, but i’d really prefer it to be a right handed hitter who can hit lefties.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Hm, Ankiels’ numbers against lefties in 07/08 are better than I was expecting, though not really what I’m hoping for out of any OF FA add.
MIKE CAMERON WHYYYY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
im so glad FA’s will take a pay cut to play in Boston. Scutaro could have gotten quite a bit more and Cameron got what he probably deserved plus a year.
Overall, my hatred for the Red Sox grows, and my jealousy of their FO.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 21, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
YESSSSSSS
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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For improper use of “an” before a word starting with a consonant. -10 for repeating that sentence.
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Where stands you on “an historical”?
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EVERY QUESTION HAS AN ANSWER!
AND NATTO WILL SUPPLY THAT ANSWER!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
IF IT’S A TRICK QUESTION, HE MIGHT USE ONE OR TWO HINT COINS!
IF THAT DOESN’T WORK HE’S NOT BELOW CHECKING THE GAMEFAQ!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I hate that too
Who decided it was right? Isn’t it “a” before consonants and “an” before vowels? Last time I checked, “h” was not a vowel.
In British, I think the H doesn’t sound when you say it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
It sounds like ‘haitch’.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
French, too.
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In French, there are different kinds of Hs. Ones that make a sound at the beginning of a word and ones that don’t. It depends on the word. It was a topic of great confusion in my French class.
Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG
there are no Hs that make a sound in French, but there are some that at the beginning of words may affect the pronunciation of the end of the previous word. Two examples that are esp. suitable for this site: the article preceding “heur,” good fortune, drops its vowel: l’heur; but the article preceding “haine,” hatred, doesn’t: “la haine.”
Except in the word Herb. Which makes no sense to me.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
I’m aggin’ it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
how about pronouncing the t in “often”?
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I’m fer it!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Who pronounces it without it?
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Me for one. Well, pretty often anyway. Or is it anyways?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
It’s anyway.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
I’m gonna continue to include the ‘s’ when speaking, but as a silent letter.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
I can go either way. I tend to not pronounce the “h” so I use an. Not really a bone of contention for me.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Not really a bone of contention for me.
No, wait… that’s probably too easy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
I do.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
91. B+. Grant, this is ok but I’ve seen better from you. You need to spend time and work harder on your essays.
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
Hey! It’s not even a 91. It’s an 89. Do the math!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Dammit. Adventures in crappy copying-and-pasting.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 21, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sorry, Grant, but there are rules. They are distributed at the local meetings.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Okay, there aren’t any meetings. I kind of wish there were, though. Imagine, all the grammars Nazis and SNOOTs in your local area getting together and yelling about grammar and usage. It would be awesome.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
GRAMMARS NAZIS
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
NO GRAMMARS FOR YOU!!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
It could be like Communism! Block leaders report on bad grammar to the grammar police who pick up people for re-education camps!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 22, 2009 7:04 AM PST up reply actions
needs more Lindsay Lohan sightings
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CAIN 4 LINZY LOHAN
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
we want a pitcher
not a crotch itcher!
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Are there any other options for OF better than Ankiel? i mean, the FA class just doesnt look promising right now
I was never a fan of Bay’s and Holliday would never sign with the Giants.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Bay is promising like black clouds in the western sky.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
I want Damon. I don’t expect him getting more than 2 years at less than $10 mil per, which I think is palatable.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 21, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Damon, Nady, Byrd (maybe), Church
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
He’s definitely not a better OF option than Ankiel.
/sigh
This has been the most depressing offseason.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
worse than last offseason?
remember, when we were all hoping the Ginats would acquire a hitter?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 21, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
/Giants batter swings
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/Shawon Dunston celebrates
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
What we need is a guy whose defense is historically bad, who’s not actually such a great hitter either, and whose best season post-2005 was 0.6 WAR! YES!!!!!!
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Oh, and also
He’s almost 30, so he’s not going to get better, either. PERFECT!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Dude
Bay Area ties.
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Ok. I would prefer Uggla over anyone else available on the market, whether it be trade or FA. I also have severe reservations about one Madison Bumgarner. What about Bumgarner for Uggla and a Top 5 FLA prospect?
I think Uggla is a very solid hitter (RH, yay!) with an improving BB%. I think Uggla is the best hitter we can acquire.
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
The Marlins aren’t going to give up Uggla and a top 5 prospect for Bumgarner.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Maybe the Marlins would do Uggla and Cameron Maybin for Bocock, Frandsen and some dead skin from Bochy’s neck.
Thing C
I don’t see why the Marlins would do that.
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
Top 10 then. A decent prospect.
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
I dunno.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Dunno as in you aren’t privy to the particulars, or dunno as in tough call?
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
Tough call as to a) whether the Marlins would do it and b) whether or not I’d want to do it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
What are your feelings about Bumgarner?
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
She like likes him.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
Tee hee… she likes likes him.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
WHAT?!
He gave me his jacket!!
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I’m mostly waiting to see where his velocity is come February before I really say. But I don’t think selling low on him is a good idea, either way.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I agree about waiting on his velocity. I guess I have a premonition that his velo won’t come back and then he is worth probably less than he is now.
I think we should use all available assets to improve the offense, and he’s the biggest besides Posey. Asset that is.
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
He still has a lot of value though, I’d think, and I’m not sure Uggla is the best piece to use him on.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
This. If we want to trade Bumgarner, we need to start thinking about what other prospects it would take to get Adrian Gonzalez or Prince Fielder.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This should be the course of action. Even if Bumgarner turns into a #2ish starter, he has more value to us now and for the next couple of seasons as a return for a hitter(s).
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
I don’t know. I mean, short-term, he is already the team’s fifth starter. Who replaces him there? Pucetas/Martinez? Long-term, he still has the ceiling of a number one starter. There are many scouts who think his velocity will come back. If it does and brings its breaking-ball BFF along, then it’s shoot for the stars time. Plus, he’s under team control for what, five more years? So is it worth it to trade five very cheap years of Bumgarner for for one year of Fielder or two years of Gonzalez?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I wasn't sure
Thanks for the correction.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I actually have confidence that Sabean can find a 5th starter. This isn’t the worst place to come for a veteran hoping for a bounce-back year.
I guess it depends on how good those years are, and if you think Gonzalez and Sandoval and six No. 6 hitters could win the NL West the next two years.
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
bumgarner
can barely throw 90 mph and his delivery is all fucked up. i saw his first start in person . . . it was very . . . disappointing. if we can do uggla straight up for bumgarner i’d be down. especially when we have a lefty who throws mid 90’s with a wicked slider. all they had to do was say “keep your hip back longer” and he throws a no hitter. we don’t need more zitos/lowrys/rueters(insert mid to high 80’s lefty here)
bumgarner
can barely throw 90 because he was fatigued. I think if when he builds up his strength he will be fine.
He averages low to mid 90s
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No
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 24, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
They would probably trade
Uggla and Gaby Sanchez for MadBum.
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
OT: BREAKING JCB9 NEWS
I didn’t get on my flight and now I get to wait 2 days and thus miss my daughter’s first birthday because the airline industry is fucky. Huzzah!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Wow
Everyone missed their flights today!
My brother, who has already spent something like 5 days getting from Baghdad to Kuwait to Ireland, got to Dallas-Fort Worth this afternoon with plenty of time to spare for his flight to SFO, only to get held up by some asshole Staff Sergeant working in customs for absolutely no reason at all (and missed his flight, of course) and is now not getting in until 11:10… in San Jose!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I didn't actually miss it
The temperature limit for dogs is under 45 degrees for more than 15 minutes. The forecast for Atlanta, where our layover is? 42 degrees. Time on ground: 30 minutes.
/facepalm
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
That’s just about as lame as my brother’s situation. :\ Sorry
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
sorry about your brother, too
Customs is one of the painiest of pains. I seem to eventually tell all my random stories to MCC, so I’m sure I’ll tell my customs horror story someday.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
It actually wasn’t even the customs themselves that got him, apparently this guy decided he had to give all these guys who were on the flight (who I imagine are in the same exhausted and just-wanting-to-go-home boat as my brother) a speech about personal responsibility or something. I mean, what the hell? Really?
I thankfully have no horrifying customs stories outside of “I had to wait in line for a long time!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I don't know what's worse
the “let me tell you something young man” guys or the “ha ha I’m so witty and going to make you enjoy this tedious process” guys.
They don’t ever like me, because my responses consist of “yes” and “no”, which must alert customer supervisors to that. And my wife shares her pretty common Hispanic name with someone who apparently was a smuggler, so there were more than a few long and boring q and a sessions in Airportland, the nasty country between the US and the airplane.
PS. Hope your brother makes it back soon! You probably thought you could ignore East Coast weather now.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 21, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Huzzah!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
HILARIOUS MURDER RATE!!!
Actually not hilarious, but the Venezuela Wikipedia page that Grant linked to uses the European-style for numbers over 999: “96 homicides every 100.000 inhabitants in 2007” Of course the first time I read this, I read it as “96 homicides every 100 inhabitants in 2007”, which would be even higher than Detroit.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 21, 2009 5:39 PM PST reply actions
Anyone
is better than Velez at this point. It’s astonishing how much importance Bork and Co put into a week or two of hot or not play. Velez was on fire for a bit, then cooled down…WAY down. At this point, I don’t really care if the FA is overpaid; anything to block Velez from starting…
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
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Scotty Pods
agrees with you and is packing his bags!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 21, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather
Velez play than Pods and/or Dye. I feel dirty for saying I want Velez to play instead of someone.
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
You shouldn't.
Velez could suck for a month and get the boot. Pods or Dye could suck all season without seeing the bench.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
But he did suck for a solid two months. He OPS’d a combined ~.710 after his torrid July (with about a 0.300 OBP!), and he didn’t get benched. I don’t see him sucking for a whole month and then getting the boot.
What Scares Me about Velez
is he could suck for 3 weeks then hit a triple and show off the vroom and be the starter for at least another month
Hoping for BowkerMania to hit AT&T Park in 2010
Ah 2009 Winn-itiss!!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 22, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I can get on board for a cheapy 1-year deal for him. As long his last name isn’t Velez, then ok.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 21, 2009 7:23 PM PST reply actions
Staying off that power play helped them pull it out.
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TWSS
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 22, 2009 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
Expectations are lowering every week on MCC. By the end of January we’ll be excited when Sabean signs Joe Crede.
"It's too late now."
More like weird power for a cheap organization, amirite?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply actions
Ankiel will grind his teeth to that graphic plus AT&T's right field dimensions
and say, “Eff it, I’ll be the 5th starting pitcher there.”
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 21, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
This article has so much FAIL in it
Inbox: Will in-house bats get a chance?
Giants fans ask about Ishikawa, Schierholtz, trades and more
I have a feeling I know who Lars J is…
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Not me. My last name starts with an S
And I could never live in Anchorage.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 22, 2009 7:46 AM PST up reply actions
No longer welcome… it’s a long story.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 22, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
There are multiple Larses who are fans of the Giants and statistically savvy?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Apparently so.
I guess he watches Giants games when he is not out slaying polar bears and building igloos!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 22, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Dude, he doesn’t slay bears. He totally hunts wolves with his salmon guns. The igloos, though, those are real.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Its the perfect way to past the time when you are viewing Russia
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 22, 2009 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
IN RUSSIA THE GIANTS PASS THE TIME WATCHING YOU!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 22, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, I don’t want Ankiel either.
It’s getting depressing. I agree that everyone should be upset if the end result is that the Giants don’t sign anyone.
I think DeRosa would produce.
I think Ryan Church is better than Velez or Schierholtz.
It would be nice if we could sign Damon and DeRosa to one year contracts.
I wouldn’t trade Bumgarner: he has the potential of being a third ace.
Oh yeah, Rockies lost Marquis today. That was good for the Giants.
I agree that everyone should be upset if the end result is that the Giants don’t sign anyone.
I really don’t get this. This signing a guy because his should be better then Velez is a complete, "So What." I mean Velez should be on the 25 man only if the team expects to lose 85 or more games. He is a gamble with an incredibly low likelihood of paying out. He is fun to watch in a chicken without its head kind of way but seriously the Giants have got plenty of cheap help now days that can do similar without tying up a roster spot for 2-3 years Ala Rowand, Roberts, etc.
And any of the veterans being named will probably be signed for 2+ years. We are already seeing the preemptive P.R. work being laid out with the catchers that no one wants a one year deal. It is just a matter of time tell we start hearing how we couldn’t get Pods or Dye or LaRoche without offerring an extra year over the other teams because “No one wants to hit here” . Inserrt Sabean sob story here.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 22, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
VAPORS!
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 21, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
You can swear in gameday threads only.
I think it’s a good move there, though. There are a lot of total fucking morons at NN.
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If this were NinersNation, I would delete your comment. And then I would hilariously edit every FanPost.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I changed one guy’s post because he said fucking a few times. I changed it to frigging and flapping. He also said “shit shooting” which I changed to “gibberjabbering.”
He didn’t appreciate it at first because he thought I was ruining the quality of his writing, but when we explained the rules he was all cool and shit.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
HAHA, i actually think that’s funny, it’s really funny. I just didn’t know how strict ninersnation was compared to MCC
The vast majority of blogs are stricter than McC, including all the other Bay Area blogs on SBN.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
A lot stricter, too.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
Most literally, to fuck is to copulate, but it is also used as a more general expletive or intensifier. Some instances of the word can be taken at face value, such as “Let’s fuck,” “I would fuck her/him”, or “He/she fucks.” Other uses are dysphemistic: The sexual connotation, usually connected to masturbation (in the case of “go fuck yourself” or “go fuck your ass”) is invoked to incite additional disgust, or express anger or outrage. For example, “Fuck that!”, “Fuck no!”, “Fuck off”, or “Fuck you!”. By itself, fuck is usually used as an exclamation, indicating surprise, pain, fear, disgust, disappointment, anger, or a sense of extreme elation.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
R.I.P. George Carlin
The man found the beauty and utility of a common curse word and turned it into pure unadulterated humor
We are all the McCoven and we are all Pedro Feliz
he’s good
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 22, 2009 12:45 AM PST up reply actions
If this were NinersNation, you’d be making a Prediction Game Results FanPost and it would have several lolgrougs in it.
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You’re still in second place, so I’ll limit the number of lolgrougs to 2.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Some places are more lenient. Yesterday I was reading a post on the Orioles site, and the sign-up TOC said “People say the F word. Deal with it.” or something like that.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 21, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, really? i’ve had over 1000 comments on the niners forum, and i was just messin around, but they deleted my comment, just talking about how Sasha Vujacic SUCKS
The O’s site actually says:
1. Don’t say anything racist, sexist, or homophobic.
2. Don’t be offended by the use of the F word. It happens.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 21, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sure it depends on how it’s used.
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I don’t think directing at someone in particular is well-accepted anywhere.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 21, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Grammar Nazis
does a hyphen belong there?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 21, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
NEIN
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 21, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
- – - – - – - – -
Like that?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 22, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Aw
go Frandsen yourself!!!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
I don’t feel like Frandsen myself.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
You don’t feel like a flying squirrel?
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 21, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like Frandsen, yeah!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 22, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 22, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
OT: Morrow to Toronto
for Brandon League and another prospect
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 21, 2009 10:20 PM PST reply actions
Don’t give Rowell ideas, he’ll force a Morrow trade for Belinelli back.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
I bet you would have freaked if that was the case
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 21, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
wat
seriously?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
it better be a pretty nice prospect.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Bret Wallace
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by say hey nation on Dec 22, 2009 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
Mia Wallace
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Mia Sara
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 22, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Yankees supposedly close to acquiring a mystery SP. Hints so far, according to this dude:
This potential Yankees trade doesn’t sound like a salary dump, which would eliminate Derek Lowe.
Yankees mystery pitcher does not appear to be Carlos Zambrano. Cubs had not asked him to waive his no-trade as of tonight.
Josh Johnson would be huge get for NYY but Marlins have insisted they’re not trading him this winter. As we all know, everyone has a price.
I’d feel pretty good ruling out Randy Johnson, too.
There are some intriguing FAs: Duchscherer, Sheets, Escobar … but I’m hearing that the Yankees are on the verge of a trade.
YanLOLkees fans are speculating Harang, Vazquez, Josh Johnson or Cain in exchange for some combination of Swisher, Cano, Joba, Hughes and Montero.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Maybe Jonathan Sanchez for Swisher and a prospect?
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 21, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Sanchez for Swisher and Cano.
:)
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 21, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Joba for Cain!
/sorry, Timmy. The streak ends at two.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 21, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
A proven loser for a potential Cy Young winner?
I’m sold!
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ZEETS!
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 21, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
I will exchange Lonely Matt Cain for Swisher, Hughes and Montero. I do not want Joba in the NL because as you know he will win all the Cy Youngs and who wants to see some punk kid win the Cy Young year in and year out?
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 21, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
How crazy would it be if cain were traded for Montero and Joba and Sabes proclaims the trade a success because he got the catcher of the future
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 21, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Not very crazy
crazy if it doesnt happen actually
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Crazy as in the ensuing riot from the fringe
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 21, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
NOT MATT CAIN I WILL QUIT THIS FUCKING WORLD
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
But would you do CAIN FOR FEEEELDER!!!!!??!!!???!
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 21, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
I just had a horrible thought.
What if it’s Felix?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
The Mariners may actually be in contention this year, i doubt they would deal their centerpiece
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
But for Joba????
Gotta do it for Joba!
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 21, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Vazquez and Logan for Cabrera and Dunn.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Ankiel?
I just met her!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions
Lets just say
HGH is an ugly drug
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Super Models used HGH to help themselves look younger and more refreshed?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
Labia enhancers. It’s like Little Shop of Horrors down there.
/hawt
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 21, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
It looks like Rick Moranis?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
And sings.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Of course you did. Singing Rick Moranis Labia is like the holy grail of Labia. Plus, it has the added benefit of being able to quote Spaceballs.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
‘I am the keymaster of Gozer’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 22, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Well
Lets face it, most supermodels arent exactly attractive.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
Volleyball players
Thaz waz up
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Just another reason I play volleyball
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
Partly.
But I also look great in Spandex
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Pics coming soon
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll pass on those.
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Yeah, there’s only enough room on the Internet for pics of me wearing Spandex.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
You cannot haz!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Nice. Wear a jock next time.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
But how am I supposed to get the Spandex voucher out of the bottom of the donut box?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldnt the hole just be bigger?
HowTheyScored: TWSS!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
meh
Id rather not.
He was pretty terrible last year, and the year before that, his number still werent all that good. Hes 30. I dont know, I wouldnt be torn up if we signed him, but Id rather explore other options first
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 PM PST reply actions
Well
he is 30 but considering the shape of his career, I’m not sure how important his age is.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Why do you say that?
30 is 30. I dont get how he can be less affected than, say, Bay.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 22, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
So the Yanks are going after...
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Heyman says the Yankees will acquire Vazquez and Boone Logan for Melky Cabrera, Mike Dunn and a prospect.
Interesting. If they trade Cabrera (or Swish, for that matter), then they can re-sign Damon…or go after Holliday. Which means the Red Sox counter with Bay?
There may have been some movement in the Jason Bay negotiations, indicating another deal might be involved
SAAAAAAABEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Definitely seems like a step back for the Braves, doesn’t it? BTW, the prospect included is Arodys Vizcaino.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I’m not a fan of Melky. Dunn is kinda interesting, career K/9 of 9.4 in the minors, but he also walks a lot of guys and is already 24-years-old. I don’t know anything about Vizcaino.
I’m surprised the Braves didn’t wait for a Lowe deal to materialize instead of dealing Vazquez. They should’ve kept him; they’’re not closing the gap between them and the Phillies with Melky in their lineup. Or they should’ve held out for another hitter (Swisher?) besides him.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
So basically the Yankees got one of the better pitchers in baseball for a guy who might not be as good as John Bowker. Most fans and teams are guilty of overrating their own prospects and players, but the Yankees seem to have the added benefit of everyone else overrating their players also. Being the main media center of the country is a definite advantage…
The main benefit for the Braves is that they save $9mil (Vazquez = 11.5, Cabrera = 3, Yankees chipped in 500K) in this deal.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
BP's take on Vizcaino
NY’s #2 prospect and 4-star projection (vs. 5 for Montero):
2. Arodys Vizcaino, RHP
DOB: 11/13/90
Height/Weight: 6-0/189
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: Dominican Republic, 2007
2009 Stats: 2.13 ERA (42.1-34-15-52) at Short-season (10 G)
Last Year’s Ranking: 5
Year in Review: The high-ceiling Dominican dominated the much older hitters of the New York-Penn League.
The Good: Vizcaino’s combination of stuff and refinement is rarely found in a teenager. His clean arm action leads to effortless 92-94 mph fastballs that get up to 97 when he reaches back for a bit more, while his smooth mechanics allow him to harness his pitches and pound the strike zone. His power curveball already grades out as big-league average with the projection of becoming a true wipeout offering.
The Bad: Vizcaino is a touch undersized, which limits his projection, although his leg drive helps convince most that he can remain a starter. He telegraphs his changeup, but it’s a flaw often found in young power arms. More than anything, he just needs experience.
Ephemera: Playing for Staten Island, 18 of Vizcaino’s 52 strikeouts came in the second inning, where he faced just 37 hitters.
Perfect World Projection: Vizcaino’s ceiling tops that of any pitcher in the system, by a significant margin. It will take time, but the skills are there for him to become an All-Star starter.
Path to the Big Leagues: Vizcaino is at least three years away from the big leagues, but the Yankees have a recent history of struggling with the development of young pitchers once they reach the majors.
Timetable: Vizcaino will make his much-anticipated full-season debut at Low-A Charleston in 2010.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Yanks vs. Giants D:
C Posada vs. Posey
1B Teixeira vs. Ishikawa
2B Cano vs. F Sanchez
3B Rodriguez vs. Sandoval
SS Jeter vs. Renteria
LF Holliday/Damon (?) vs. Velez/Torres
CF Granderson vs. Rowand
RF Swisher vs. Schierholtz
Sabathia vs. Lincecum
Burnett vs. Cain
Pettitte vs. Zito
Vazquez vs. J Sanchez
Chamberlain vs. Bumgarner
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
LOL 1B, SS, LF
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 22, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I Actually think our starters hold up to theirs.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 22, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Nine
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 22, 2009 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
despite not having a baseball-related skill (other than raw speed) that's even average.
We’re talking about Nate Schierholtz, right?
Nate is fast, has good instincts to the ball, a cannon arm and is a good (smart, take an extra 90 feet type) baserunner… the only weakness demonstrated in his game so far is hitting. Now that’s a pretty glaring weakness, particularly as a corner outfielder… but he is no Zorak.
I happen to think he has yet to hit to his potential and could turn out to be a fairly productive player, but that’s just a subjective feeling.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 22, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Man, if Nate could just manage a walk every other game.
We would only need one more (big) bat.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 22, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I think he's going to show more HR power than he has.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 22, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
True facts
But Velez also hits the baseball with authority. Despite his wee frame, he displayed much more power than Schierholtz..
respect mah authoritah
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 24, 2009 7:27 AM PST up reply actions
Chasm sense is tingling!
92 ISO > 98 ISO ?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 24, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Philadelphia is one lucky town.
It’s a rare display of public gratitude from a superstar athlete but it’s no surprise coming from former Blue Jays ace Roy Halladay.
The Cy Young Award-winning pitcher has taken out a full-page ad in today’s Toronto Sun in which he thanks his former team and the fans here.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
hey Roy, don’t let the door hit you on the way out…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 22, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
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