Xavier anyone?
by wcovington on Dec 2, 2009 6:06 PM PST
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Tommy John surgery is serious, but Xavier Nady can hit. He's right handed and hits for a decent average and with power. He beats up on lefties, and hits righthanders just fine (lifetime .270). Sure, he strikes out a bit more than we'd like, but he has always hit well with RISP. He's only 31. When healthy he is a good fielder, has an excellent arm (RF) and can also play first base. He's a bright, local guy with something to prove. Best of all -- considering the Giants' need to conserve $$ -- he will come relatively cheap. Last year the Yankees paid him $6.5M and he barely had any at bats after winning the starting RF job. Why would you bother with a Swisher or a Dye when you've got your #5 hitter living locally?
If he's ready for spring training (which the reports say he is), what say you?
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by j14 on Dec 2, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
BUT... BUT... BAY AREA TIES!!!!!!
Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
But Professor X is old and can’t run. Why would any smart GM………never mind.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
by esseffgeez on Dec 2, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
WHEELZZZZZZZ
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 2, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
he haz dem
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They see me rolling....
They hating…
Down in Front Meat!
by homerdrew415 on Dec 3, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Those do NOT go VROOOOM VROOOOOM.
/pouts
Also, what’s with the cat?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
You know, that’s not bad. I bet it would look better with Eugenio pinned underneath it.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
It looks like a character from that robot baseball game.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 3, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
WE MUST MAKE SURE THERE IS A THREAD LIKE THIS FOR EVERY POSSIBLE FREE AGENT
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Xavier Nady can hit.
OPS+ per year:
2003: 92
2004: 92
2005: 104
2006: 102
2007: 108
2008: 127
For a corner outfielder in his 30s who can’t play defense, that is, in fact, NOT good. Except for one season.
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No
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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That’s the exact same pose I had when I opened this Fanpost.
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And that one season (2008) was his first 500 AB season
Even from 2005 on, he was at least league average on OPS+, which is a whole lot better than what we had the past few years and what we’ve got now. And if you toss out his early years, hasn’t his defense greatly improved? I don’t drill down past ZRs but his basic stats don’t look bad. Where would you send me to look up that information?
Perhaps we should be afraid that he’ll be overpriced because he’s a Scott Boras client, but I think not after his injury.
Don't believe everything you think.
UZR by year:
2003: 5.1
2004: -0.4
2005: -3.4
2006: -8.9
2007: -9.3
2008: 3.8
Maybe he suddenly improved in 2008. More likely, it’s a fluke.
And a sub-105 OPS+ isn’t league average for a corner outfielder. I mean, I don’t know exactly what is, but I doubt it. Anyway, I was being generous by using OPS+: check out how bad he looks by WAR:
2003: 1.2
2004: 0.0
2005: 0.8
2006: 0.4
2007: 0.8
2008: 4.0
Until 2008, he was worth a combined 3.3 WAR in five seasons. With the good year, that’s 7.3 over six seasons. Over the same time period, as a comparison, Aaron Rowand was worth 19.5 WAR. From 2003-2007, Rowand was worth more WAR than Nady every single season.
Fred Lewis, for example, has been worth 3.2 WAR over the last two seasons. And is younger and much cheaper than Nady will be.
Xavier Nady is not a good player, even without injury concerns.
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Doesn't this just prove that if you play on the same team as Derek Jeter you become a better player?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
Nady's 2008
With Pirates: 143 OPS+
With Yankees: 105 OPS+
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See, if you look at "numbers", that "prove things"
you ignore the real truth. They just want you to think that
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does
Offensively he’s not really much better than what we have now. He’s got a lower career wOBA than Lewis and is projected to hit worse than both Schierholtz and Bowker.
Defensively he hasn’t really improved and is worse than all three of them.
Xavier Nady really isn’t a good player, he’s an ok bench player for the league minimum. You really certainly shouldn’t be expecting him to be a starter though and you certainly shouldn’t be paying him any money, especially on a team with a number of cheap bench players.
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by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 2, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
I hear Ricky Henderson still wants to play
Leadoff hitter anyone?
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Bay Area ties!
He played Little League on a ballfield a few blocks from where I live, that I walk across on a regular basis. I AM FAMOUS WHO WANTS TO TOUCH ME????
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/points to walrusman
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by j14 on Dec 2, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
nah
jcb is too old for walrusman
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Salinas?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 2, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Oakland. Bushrod Park.
Does he have a Salinas connection? I wasn’t aware.
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I believe he played JUCO at Hartnell JC in Salinas
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 2, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Nevermind. I am wrong.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 2, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
But he did graduate from Salinas HS, while doing this there: "was named the Northern California “Player of the Year” and first-team all-state as a senior in baseball after batting .619 with 12HR… "
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 2, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, I didn't know that
Anyway, he was in Oakland for a chunk of his childhood. Also Chicago. The Hendersons moved around, it seems.
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He’s a Nady! Whoa whoa whoa, he’s a Nady!
Talkin’ about that little Nady!
And the Nady is a miiiiine!
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Lay Nady lay, lay across my big Giants Brass bed…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 3, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Naaaaaaaaaady
when you’re with me I’m cringing
give me aaaaaal your hamstrings
your hands miss the ball when it’s coming
touch it and it clanks off your glove…
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Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 3, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Nady,
you got the love I need. Maybe more than enough. Darling, darling darling walk a while with me
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
No thanks. Bad defense, and we’d probably overpay him
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 2, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions
only if he’s super cheap
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+1
Isn’t he going to bring all the thrills and crapulence of Jermaine Dye at 1/50th the price? Sold.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 2, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Boras: “blah blah blah”
Sabean: “Ok. 3/30, Deal!”
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 2, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
Injured Guy
He is coming back from a big surgery and while this means we can get him for cheaper than before that also means a big gamble…even if it is around 6 million to 10 million…I don’t really know what he is worth. But hey if it’s Nady or Dye we are choosing between I would go Nady but then again I might just as much give Schierholz a chance to start and get abs especially in right…but maybe we can try him out in left?
In Panda We Trust
Nick Johnson is an Injured Guy
but most people here seem to turn the other way when we discuss the fact the he hasn’t ever played in more than 140-something games, even though he can hit well and is a cheap 1b. Nady is coming off his first major injury, however, and is a talented player who offers positional flexibility. And we need a player like that. Sign ’em both.
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I don't intend to ignore Johnson's issues
But when he’d be in the lineup, he’d be a clear upgrade over Garko. I can’t say that of Nady with any certainty.
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Nick Johnson’s injuries include a broken wrist, broken cheekbone, and a broken leg. Maybe he’s made of peanut brittle, but I’d take the chance that he doesn’t have another freakish broken bone injury in 2010. Especially on a lineup that right now includes two competent backups.
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
To be fair, he definitely has also had his share of “nagging” injuries as well:
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 3, 2009 5:58 AM PST up reply actions
It’s like the Splash Hits counter but not fun.
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Dear Merope
since you’re so edumacational, can you post a “lame thread per week” moving average too?
Also, I’m afraid you’ll lose count over the holidays. Perhaps we should arrange deputy crap counters.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 2, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 2, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
See, because it sounds sort of like his last name. And it’s a word in Spanish. And it answers the question posed in the title. See? See?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 2, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
No entiendo.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 2, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
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Why would you bother with a Swisher
Because he’s better, younger, and healthier?
by microwave donut on Dec 2, 2009 10:12 PM PST reply actions
Reed Johnson
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Actually, I might not mind Nady if we platooned him strictly and didn't pay too much
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
nah
Xavier Cugat is dead.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
That jacket was teleported directly from the 80’s.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 3, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve changed my mind, I really want him now. The opportunities for comedy are too good.
Almost as good as our minor leaguer Ryan LOLlis
The Giants can't afford Xavier
They will be giving Lincecum 23 million dollars!! /grm
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 3, 2009 3:09 PM PST reply actions
I BET BRAIN BABYAN CANT REED THAT FAR DOWN THE APLABET DUH
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