Now that Nick Johnson's off the market...
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 18, 2009 12:57 PM PST
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PrintThe slow progression of offseason hope-munching continues. The Giants lost out on Nick Johnson because they weren't willing to offer a second year. Remind yourself of this in May, when Johnson is on the DL for psoriasis or something. Or remind yourself in October, when he takes a bases-loaded walk to win a World Series game. I would have given a second year, but I understand why there wasn't a team willing to do so. I'm not going to blame the Giants for not going all in.
Chone Figgins was too expensive, and if he doesn't put up a couple more seasons like his last, he isn't going to be worth it. Matt Holliday is going to get $100M, and Jason Bay is going to get $90M to go with his sketchy defense. I can't complain about a team not wanting to commit to those sorts of luxuries. Those aren't the once-in-a-decade offensive forces the Giants are looking for, but they'll be paid like the are.
I'm not going to blame the Giants for not trading Madison Bumgarner for a pre-arbitration cleanup hitter who doesn't exist. I'm not going to blame them for not wanting to part with Thomas Neal or Jonathan Sanchez for Dan Uggla.
So I'll spend the rest of the offseason gritting my teeth about the Aaron Rowand and Barry Zito contracts, and just hoping that some how, some way, the Giants fall into an average offense next year. If they sign Mark DeRosa for three years, I'll weep a little bit, but then I'll hope he improves the team for next year, and next year only. If they sign Adam LaRoche for a huge contract, even though he's a marginal improvement over Ryan Garko, I'll grumble and spit, and then I'll hope LaRoche makes the Giants a better team in 2010.
What I'm trying to say is that I'm giving up any hope for a good offseason. There isn't a permutation of players that will result in sound short- and long-term planning. There isn't a magical wizard who is going to come down from the sky and bless the Giants with prudent-yet-aggressive decision making. This isn't Seattle. I'm expecting a disaster of a contract -- something that will end as messily as Randy Winn's deal. So now that I've resigned myself to that mess, I'm focused on hoping that there's at least one good season that the team can wring out of the player(s) in question.
I'm hoping for an average offense built on the backs of players likely to decline. Is that too much to ask? The "players likely to decline" part is a given, so I'm trying to find a way to still be slightly optimistic. Heck, it worked for me when I was trying to justify the Rowand deal!
Aaron Rowand is the parsley garnish for a franchise preparing to serve a gourmet meal. The Giants had a paper plate with a shapeless pile of room-temperature raccoon slurry. Now they have a piece of parsley for it. The Giants had just a fantastic offseason.
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Eh
Renteria’s contract is over after this year, so it certainly isn’t preventing the Giants from giving some guy a long-term deal. Unlike the Rowand and Zito deals, which run through 2012 and 2013, respectively.
Someone needs to trick Zito and Rowand
into sky diving or someting. Then photograph it and send it to deadspin so Sabean can void their contracts.
"…this thing which tells time."
There isn’t a magical wizard who is going to come down from the sky and bless the Giants with prudent-yet-aggressive decision making.
That might not be true…
I don't know about that, to the groin.
That sound you hear is Walt Disney spinning in his grave.
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KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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The five pools are here?
WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR??!!?!!?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m trying to understand what is going on with his legs.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I think I got it. The right leg is pointed straight down, and the left leg is kind of being held up in a half-mantis.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
FUUUUUUUU-SION
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Magic
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Childbirth.
Welcome to the big leagues, son! Proud McCoven parent of future rookie of the year, Gerald "Buster" Posey and RL mom to future HOFer Henry! ;)
by GiantsFanInExile on Dec 20, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
SUCK ON THIS, BEES!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 18, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
It’s got that kid from Tropic Thunder as the apprentice.
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The winter is not over yet
Sabean can mess up this calm at any minute
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
Honestly, the more I think about it, it’s not the worst year ever to stand pat. I know it’s not a stance that would be very popular and it’s risky, but if they actually decide to, you know, make the best use of the resources they have (ie Posey, Bowker) and see what they have, it could be beneficial to wait and see what’s available in 2010.
That said, goddammit, I really don’t want Velez to start for the Giants next year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
NOR DO I WANT SCOTTY PODS, SABES
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’ve been on this wagon for all of the free agents in the field except Johnson. Now that he’s gone, I’m firmly set in agreement with standing pat.
Getting Garko back helps with that.
Lethargy
It has me
Yeah, definitely try to bring Garko back. Sure hope there were no bridges burned there…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Really? Isn’t it common knowledge that “Garko and Bochy didn’t see eye-to-eye”? I can’t imagine Garko won’t take less money to play elsewhere.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
It’s been reported in a few places, but who knows if it’s really true.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Where are these reports? Every time I ask i never get a reliable source.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 18, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Here's one
The Giants acquired Garko, a one-time catcher at Stanford, in July for Single-A left-hander Scott Barnes. He didn’t have nearly the impact the Giants hoped and soon fell out of favor with Manager Bruce Bochy.
I remember the eye-to-eye quote, but I couldn’t find it.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
I still don’t get it. Does the expression “fell out of favor” imply that Garko was sucking so he wasn’t playing him, or does it definitely mean that Garko and Bochy bumped heads.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 18, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Favor is the name of a box the Giants keep in their dugout. It’s a hazing ritual for new players. You have to stay in there for a few hours, otherwise you don’t get any playing time.
It also explains Kevin Frandsen and John Bowker.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
ouch
i can’t imagine anyone bumping heads with bochy and surviving.
I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.
Yeah, I don’t see how that necessarily means it isn’t production related.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I wonder if all these people who don’t want to play in SF… actually just don’t want to play for Bochy. ?
Only players that are smarter than Bochy don’t want to play here. This leaves a bunch of players, like for instance,……uh…….uh……..hmmmmmmm……..uh……………
Oh, THAT explains it.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure Frandsen, Schierholtz, Bowker, and whoever else got yo-yo’d around the past few seasons would agree with that, but I guess members of the gritty veteran contingent oughta love him.
Isn't playing to the contingent of gritty veterans the definition of a player's manager?
It’s what Baker did.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Now that you’ve said this, Sabes is going to sign Jermaine Dye.
Thanks, jponry.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
He will in a few hours. Right now he’s online, kicking the tires on some Zhu Zhu Pets.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
Oh please...
Sabean doesn’t know how to use a computer.
by The Double Deuce on Dec 18, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
signing Dye will happen
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 21, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with all this
and think a two years of Damon might fit in as it would give them some offense and keep from Velez from starting. It also wouldn’t hamstring the organization for generations like the Zito and Rowand deals have.
LF – Damon
2B – Sanchez
1B – Bowker
3B – Pablo
RF – Juggernate
CF – Rowand
C – Posey
SS – Renteria
If you take the leap of faith that at least some of Renteria’s struggles were due to injuries, thne you might be looking at an overall bump in the offense from last year:
Damon > Velez, Lewis, etc
Bowker > Ishi/Aurilia/Garko
Posey > Molina
Full season of Sanchez > Burriss/Uribe/etc
Schierholz > 2009 Winn
2010 Renteria > 2009 Renteria
None of these things individually are likely to mean that much, but if all or most of these things happen, it could be a fun season. The key won’t have been adding any magic offense, but more getting rid of the total suck (Winn, Molina, Aurilia, etc.)
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Bowker > Ishi/Aurilia/Garko
I WANT TO BELIEVE!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Man, I so wish that Bowker wasn’t a terrible first-baseman.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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I am not sold on the dude at all
He is as big a question mark as any other on this team.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
+1
Bowker>Ishi/Garko is not a sure thing at all. However, Bowker>Richie no brainer.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
PS: I just threw the batting order down there….so don’t quibble about things like who’s batting 3rd vs. who’s batting 6th
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HOW DARE YOU BAT RENTERIA 8TH
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah after the big HR last year, he should be batting 4th
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EVERY DAY
CONSISTENCY DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Welcome Olivo, Jacobs & Pods – our 2010 Giants offensive upgrades!!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Or remind yourself in October, when he takes a bases-loaded walk to win a World Series game.
Not that we as Giants fans have any reason to know this, but I actually heard that most World Series games are played in November these days.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
I’m expecting a disaster of a contract — something that will end as messily as Randy Winn’s deal.
Seriously, I’d be ecstatic with a Winn-like contract as the end result of this off season.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
SABES SIGNS A HACKER TO CURE THE TEAMS WOES!
* Righty Eric Hacker, 27 in March, signed with the Giants. This year at various Double and Triple A stops he compiled a 4.45 ERA, 6.2 K/9, and 3.5 BB/9 in 147.6 innings. The Pirates acquired Hacker in May after the Yankees designated him for assignment.
"…this thing which tells time."
Giants sent Righty Eric Hacker straight to the IT department, where he can do some real good.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Is his middle name “Caribbean”?
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That’s cool.
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/spits it in Sabean's face
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Dec 18, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
If Sideshow Bob and Andre the Giant had a love child I imagine it have looked something like this
We are all the McCoven and we are all Pedro Feliz
It doesn't matter who they sign now
80 WINZ
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 1:19 PM PST reply actions
And the worst part of this truth will be
The smug articles from the asshats who were convinced the Giants were “the worst team in baseball” last season saying, “See? I told you so!”
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Someone tell Sky he is imaginary
I’m sure he will be shocked.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Sky never said that “the Giants were the worst team in baseball last season”, nor did anyone else.
I was promised lasagna.
I said it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah, but you're imaginary
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Also, now that I think about it, Sky didn’t even write any of those articles, it was JinAZ. Here’s what he said about the Giants at the end of the season.
If you don’t agree with it, fine, I don’t either. But if you think that’s smug asshatery, I can’t even imagine what you think of McC.
I was promised lasagna.
I can’t even imagine what you think of McC.
Heh…I am sure you could hazard a guess.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Smug Asshatery...
A fine name, and one that I’m sure the Asshatery family has overlooked.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
‘asshattery’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 18, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
For those who don’t hate asses.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 18, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Is it wrong for me to feel like if we don’t perform well enough to make the playoffs, I want them to perform so poorly that Sabean and Bochy get fired off the archway into the Cove? Cause that’s how I currently feel.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 18, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions
True. I have a really hard time watching the Giants lose. I’m just worried that we’re gonna have a really hard time watching the Giants win, due to them not doing it very often. This is what December and January does to me!!
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 18, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Don't fall into that trap
In the testicleless and brainless FO exists nobody who could draw a correlation between an 0-162 season and the already prima facie ineptitude of Sabean and Bochy.
I’m convinced that short of on field human sacrifice involving cannibalism, that nothing that transpires between the lines has consequence. Not as long as most of the seats are full.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m still holding out hope for Delgado on a one year deal. Now that Nick Johnson is signed, Delgado’s going to be getting attention from a lot of teams. Come on Sabes, SWOOP!
"It's too late now."
I keep hearing the Mets are going to check him out in the Puerto Rican winter league. Has he even started playing yet?
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Mets will get Delgado if he is healthy.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
The Sky's Imminent Falling
“players likely to decline” as “a given”—who, except maybe Rowand? Are you thinking of Posey, Sandoval, Franchez as opposed to anyone we had last year at second base, our pitching staff, our young outfielders who may not improve but who we have no reason to believe will decline? It’s amazing what wonderful powers of divination the Cassandras on this site display, but I’m not clear where the decline is going to occur, or why the substitution of Posey for Molina (as matters now stand) is going to leave the asshats smug. Maybe someone interested in the rational approach that distinguishes this site when it is distinguished, rather than the reflexive groaning that is (sigh!) more usual on it, will give me some rational reasons why we should expect likely decline. My sense is that a year of Posey, a full year of Franchez, a Sandoval more discriminating at the plate, and some reduction of hacking from Bowker and/or Schierholtz ought to bring us pretty much back to the number of wins we had this year. Add one good bat and we will do better, barring unforeseen bad (injuries) or good (Uribe-like novae) accidents.
First, because our pitching was was at an almost unsustainable level.
Second, because the young outfielders you named aren’t likely to play. Besides, one of them had a OBP just over .300 last year. Also, there’s no guarentee Posey is going to play at this point.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 18, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I actually agree with you, although you might have put it a little nicer. Maybe I’m just an optimist, but Cain, Lincecum and Sanchez all improved this year, and why you wouldn’t expect them to improve even more next year is beyond me. As for the offense, I still expect them to do something, and if you assume the injured players are healthy this year, why would you expect them to be worse?
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
As has been said about the pitching many times before, it’s not that it’s not good, it’s that the level they performed at last year was ridiculous and not likely to be completely sustainable. No one’s saying the pitching is going to suck next year, but something like a 5 point drop in ERA+ (from 123 to a still good 118 or so) wouldn’t come as a surprise.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
But it wouldn’t surprise me to see it go the other way either. None of Cain, Sanchez or Lincecum have peaked.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
I have to quibble with saying that about Lincecum. You can’t necessarily expect that a guy who’s already as good as he is will get better.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
we kinda said
that before last season too, no? how many people expected him to with two straight cy youngs? i doubt the pitching overall will improve, but the dropoff will be insignificant
Cain’s ERA is likely to go way up, as is the bullpen’s. I wouldn’t count on our 5th starter either, whoever that’s going to be. Who’s going to make up for that – Sanchez? His ERA was 4.2 last year, do we really expect it to be that much lower?
I was promised lasagna.
i agree on cain's ERA
but how much? 3.20? i think we can see a slight improvement from sanchez, 3.90 maybe? 5th starter is defintely a question mark though
That’s easy. Nobody even has to decline. Simply put, the Giants were 30 runs luckier on offense than the usual team would have with the way they hit. That’s a decrease of 4-5 wins right there, as long as we’re making accurate predictions.
Lethargy
It has me
This
I was just going over it in my head, and the lineup as it stands, versus last year:
Velez < Lewis
Rowand = Rowand
Schierholtz = Winn (yes, really)
Sandoval = Sandoval
Renteria = Renteria
Sanchez > Burriss
Ishikawa = Ishikawa
Posey ?? Molina
I’m just going from last year’s stats; not projecting any improvements or decline. I’d say the difference between Sanchez and Burriss is much larger than the difference between Velez and Lewis, so the squad figures on paper to score a couple more runs than last year’s, but probably not enough to overcome the 30 runs worth of luck. The wild card is obviously Posey (if he plays), but I think its asking a lot for him to be a lot better than Bengie right out of the box. Any FA catcher wouldn’t represent a meaningful difference compared to Molina, I don’t think.
So you’re saying we’re right, but that nobody will believe our predictions of doom?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 18, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
I really wish he would get fired. From everything.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 18, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
+1
BUT HES FRIENDS WITH BARRIE ZITO SO HE HAS ALL THE INSIDE INFO NOT JUST YOUR AVERAGE DUMB FAN
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
And resembles a giant thumb.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 18, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
He took a picture of me with Brian Wilson!
and is such a giant thumb.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
/banned
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
Urban’s Coming Down the Pipe segment (or whatever they call it) with Bobby Evans is like the only thing worth listening to on KNBR.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
by tedfordfan on Dec 19, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Miggy for Giants 3rd base? Ok someone has been having extra martinis at lunch.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Talk about your classic a gun or a rope type choice.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
IIRC
Urban championed a Sanchez for Tejada trade last season.
Before Sanchez started pitching well, but still.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Miguel Tejada? Thats almost as bad as spelling Michael with a ‘y’ or a man who is at least in his late 30s who still proudly wears an earing.
Thing A
Michaely?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
sarchasym
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 19, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
If the Yankees were to sign Hank Blalock, Mark DeRosa, Scott Podsednik and Jermaine Dye, they’d be saving the Giants from a mistake. Nick Johnson on a one-year deal is hardly a mistake.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
teh Giants need two hitters
so they should not sign a hitter.
Also, you forgot all the idiot extra letters in his first name.
I hate this guy, but I hate Damon Bruce more.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
I would jettison Ralph and Damon before Mychal. Ralph first, make no mistake.
Gary Darling, go DIAFF.
by The Enchanter on Dec 19, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
“First of all, the Giants need more than one bat. Second of all, if I were the GM for an hour, the ONLY thing I’d do is sign Miguel Tejada and call it a day.”
Saving countless runs with my Brian Horwitz
by lyricalkiller on Dec 21, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
Rajai Davis
Whenever I see his name, I get him confused with the Channel 3 sports anchor.
Appropo of nothing...
but I saw this pic and it had to be posted here:
by kaliber on Dec 18, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
Wow.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
Apropos
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Also, one of Ralph Barbieri’s favorite words. I think he has to say it at least once a day.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
I get annoyed when he takes such pains to say things like “If you were HE…” and “To WHOM are you giving…” and then turns around and says something like “Crissakes!” without flinching.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
I agree. This picture is very apropos.
I love the time the person took to draw a picture and laugh thinking how it probably lasted on the chalkboard for a day.
I wonder what percentage of their customers said “Huh?”
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I would buy coffee from there, and I don’t drink coffee.
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I FUCKIN' LOVE IT!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 18, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Nice.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
OT: Tim has some strong words for Halladay.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions 13 recs
Where’s this from?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Awesome
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Has to be a mccov member lol
Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
by kbsofaraway08 on Dec 18, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
MY CY YOUNGS
LET ME SHOW U THEM
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Tim Lincecum uses bad apostrophes when he speaks.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
A "Dingerz" sighting at thanksroy.com
I can’t wait to hit dingerz off you pendejo.
—Manny, LA
"…this thing which tells time."
http://www.thanksroy.com/comment-page-14#comment-282
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Dec 18, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
When i think about you Roy, I touch my elf
—darryl, t-doy
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Roy. Fuck you.
-Cliff Lee, Seattle
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 18, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
LOL Blue Jays fans
Actually going to the trouble of creating a web page to say goodbye to a guy leaving their team for more money elsewhere.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
One Canadian political scientist (I can’t remember whom) put the difference between our two countries thusly: “In America, when you get pissed off, you buy a gun and shoot someone. In Canada, you go back to your parents’ house and smoke pot.”
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Technically, he was traded and didn’t leave, but you’re right about the money, but I think the fans would have a tough time blaming him because after all, if he was total money-grubbing dickweed, he’d have played this season out and hit the FA market instead of signing an extension with the Phils, which helped the Jays land some prospects and not walk away empty handed, when he could have just refused the trade.
(long sentence is long)
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I see nothing wrong with it
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
LULZ
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This has been an awful offseason, and it has nothing to do with the Giants
Roy Halladay is my favorite non-Giant, and now he’s playing for one of my most despised teams. On another note, Roy Halladay looks like Chris Martin from Coldplay. Every time I see him- every time- the song “Shiver” plays through my head.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Ehehe there’s a player on the Ms named Doug Fister.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Friend of groug?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I don’t think that was what he was implying…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m pretty sure you all do.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
A friend of the ex-TBS broadcasters
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
I can explain it to you with my fist.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
That’s what she said.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Some girls are bigger than others.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Fister? I hardly even know her.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
That’s never stopped you before.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
lol tweet
Sabean gives up on improving roster. Giants announce 81 “Bobblehead Days” for 2010 season.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
bochy bobblehead
would actually destroy civilization as we know it.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
It would clog up the sewers.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Ha. I didn’t realize that there WAS a Bochy bobblehead.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
The only bobblehead that’s actually proportioned
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Close, but the head is still a little small
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 18, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I’m a big fan of the Padres khaki road uniforms, but since when did they wear vomit green?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
It looks like Peavy was dipped in a steaming vat of diarrhea.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Why is excrement always steaming? Does it ever assume room temp.?
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Well, it is very warm when it comes out. The excement I mentioned was in a vat and vats can quite easily be heated over a flame. Also, hot liquids are much better sutied for the dying of garments.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Makes sense to me, but I’m going to start reading clothing labels a LOT more carefully.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
You only have to worry about it if the clothing is brown or green.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
I like the khaki color for the road
uniforms, but I still hate their logo. I miss their old logo.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Dec 18, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
From MLB Trade Rumors
ESPN.com’s Buster Olney says the Yankees will move on to new targets if Johnson passes his physical. Next up? Starting pitching and Mark DeRosa (if the price is right).
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Another quote:
bq.3:20: Davidoff says (via Twitter) that Damon asked for $22MM over two years and the Yankees said no.
I think the Giants could/shold match that. Lets get some OBP up in this piece.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
That Is Crazy Talk For Such A Risk Of DL Time
by giantsrainman on Dec 18, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
I agree.
But if they’re going to give it to one or the other, I’d rather have Johnson.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Same Dollars One Year I Would Agree
Same Dollars for two years no way Johnson makes more sense then Damon. Personally, if we can get Johnny for the 2 years and $14M the Yankees offered I would think of this a a very good signing for the Giants.
by giantsrainman on Dec 18, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Damon's hit charts scare me.
He’s can’t field, and his power is a home-park mirage. He’s Fred Lewis.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Look At His 2Bs And His Years Prior To 2009
I doubt if fewer HRs will really impact his overall value as he will just hit for a higher average with more doubles instead like he did in the old Yankee Stadium. His SLG and OBP will both be better then Fred Lewis. I think last years UZR in LF was likely a fluke and he will end up right around average defensely for us as he was a plus defender for the Yankees previously. Finally, Lewis isn’t the right one to compare him to anyway since we know Freddy will not be starting and most likely will not even be a Giant come opening day.
by giantsrainman on Dec 18, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
Did anyone think his HR total this year was not a product of New Yankee Stadium
"…this thing which tells time."
Why the fuck would the Yankees want Mark DeRosa? I’m actually a little angered by this. It’s like they just want to buy every goddamn free agent on the market, no matter who he is. It’s just stupid.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Yeh really...
Where the hell is he going to play?
by AmorVincitOmnia on Dec 18, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Right Center Field
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 18, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
PG&E?
Or SFPUC?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Utility guy:
Not important in the American League.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
eh
Not to be the pinch hitter but to play when A-Rod, Jeter, Granderson (remember he can’t hit lefties) and others sit.
"meh"
Still not nearly as important as in the NL.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This is how it happened
1 Jeter made fun of not knowing who Lincecum was.
2 Timmy hits him at the ASG.
3 Jeter tells the Steinbrenners to tell Cashman to screw the Giants every which way but loose.
nod nod nod. this is how it happened.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
That always vexed me
How in the world could any baseball player not know who Lincecum is? I don’t care if they’re in different leagues, you’d have to be completely oblivious to not know the current Cy Young winner
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
I interpreted it as: he doesn’t know him = hasn’t faced him before, not familiar with his repertoire.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 18, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
I was just happy to have my irrational hatred of yet another player confirmed. First time was when Kobe raped that girl. Oh wait that’s right that never happened.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
I disagree with unwillingness to trade J. Sanchez or T. Neal
Wth the Zito and Renteria contracts being a clear losers in terms of value provided, the Giants either have to ramp up payroll (they will not) or compromise the future for the short-term. I would rather them try to win now and give up a guy like Neal than sustain a level of continued mediocrrity. What it boils down to is this: if not 2010 then when? Please explain how things will be better in 2011 or 2012.
I don't think anyone is unwilling to trade them
Just not for Uggla. It’s not a good enough return, especially when you’re dealing with a team that MUST MOVE Uggla.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
This
If Sabean waits a couple of months, he can probably get Uggla for the cost we all want. No need to panic and rush into a move that could be avoided.
Lethargy
It has me
We won't need to include Sanchez to get Uggla
Without much of a market for him and a glut of second basemen still on the market, the Marlins have pretty much expected that the return won’t be as much as they’d like, and Tanner and another prospect would likely be sufficient to get the deal done.
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 18, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Well this is sabean
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 18, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
How would trading Jonathan Sanchez make the team better in 2010?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
So this
The team, as currently constructed, is relying on Madison Bumgarner as the fifth starter and there is no starting pitching depth in the system. None. We at least have players who can play left field, first base and second base. There are no such options in the rotation if Sanchez is traded.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
+1
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Please explain how things will be better in 2011 or 2012.
More payroll frees up, prospects move up a year. No one who is a key figure to the team will be gone in 2011 or 2012.
"It's too late now."
Plus it’s not entirely unreasonable to think that someone like Neal could be ready by ’11 or ’12
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Or Wheeler.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Bumgarner’s the wild card. If he explodes on to the scene, we’ll be glad we waited for ’11 and the stronger FA market to go for it.
Lethargy
It has me
Take it for what it is, but The Hardball Times has a pretty upbeat take on Bummy for 2010-11.
This is the guy that should supplant Cain, if not Lincecum, atop the pitching rotation, but that won’t happen until 2011 at the earliest.
Note: No mention of his velocity loss, though.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
wow that's kind of ridiculously optimistic...
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
How long did it take for Cliff Lee to be one of the best pitchers in baseball?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Bumgarner has the requisite command, right?
It said that wouldn’t happen until 2011 at the earliest. Maybe 4 years down the road…
Lethargy
It has me
He’s got good command of a fastball that has arguably declined in effectiveness and that’s about it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
If I just look at their comparative stats at age 19 and ignore the K differential for the sake of argument, I can see how people might project Bummy ahead of Cain. But to say that he’s capable of toppling Timmy as the Giants’ ace? Anything is possible but I’d have to see a lot more from him to make that call. As of now, I don’t see it.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
So to sum up: Matt Cain sucks and he’s a third starter at best.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
oh and link fail fixed
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
This is a best-case scenario
Now this is coming from someone who has seen Bumgarner pitch (in person, that is) exactly one time. But he threw in the upper 80s/low 90s, didn’t have control of any secondary pitches, and when he missed location he gave up some of the hardest hit balls I’ve seen. That was against the Padres. If his velocity doesn’t come back he tops out at a 4th or 5th starter in my mind. If it does, he has the potential to be great if he develops another pitch or two. But that’s completely speculative. The velocity at least was there once, while the secondary pitch never has been.
Hell, who knows, even Posey may be ready by then!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Only if he gets some major league experience.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
he can't get major league at bats
he has no major league at bats
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
That’s more optimistic than I am, but I do expect him to do well in Fresno, so I certainly would not be shocked if he showed up here in July or August, depending on how well the existing OFs are doing.
Is Neal expected to skip Richmond?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 18, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well I originally expected him to skip Connecticut but now that the team has moved I won’t be surprised if they do send him to Richmond. I hope they do. I think the talent level (not necessarily skill level) is higher in AA and it’s not as hitter friendly.
If he does start in Richmond I don’t expect him to skip Fresno unless he is really knocking the cover off the ball and the incumbent outfielders are stinking it up.
Jack Cust-DH-Athletics Dec. 18 – 5:14 pm et
According to Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com, the Royals, Giants and Tigers are among the teams interested in free agent Jack Cust.
All three teams are looking for an inexpensive hitter and Cust should fit the bill. He batted .240/.356/.417 with 25 homers and 70 RBI in 2009, but is a poor defender and struck out 185 times in 513 at-bats this past season. Cust, who turns 31 in January, made $2.8 million in ’09.
D:
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
"Clank" is a good place to start.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 18, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
“He batted .240/.356/.417 with 25 homers and 70 RBI in 2009, but is a poor defender”
I’m sorry, was the first part of that sentence supposed to be positive?
"It's too late now."
OBP!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Clearly, Cust is poised to fill the “slow fat guy” role the Giants lost when Begie was shown the door.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
That would be awesome
He should play with either a beer or a hot dog in his hand.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
since the only thing he can catch is a buzz
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 18, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
The folks in the LF bleachers can toss food at him when he takes the field.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I’d rather see Gomes than Cust.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks Mr. Hobson
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Like Prince Fielder!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
BUMGARNER FOR DYE!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
DYE AND CUST FOR FEELDUR
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
BUMGARNER?
I don’t even know her.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Do you listen to the TK radio show?
Gary Braun is so hilarious.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 19, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
RIBEYES
AND ZINGERDZZZZZZ
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
105 OPS+? solid for a DH/bad corner outfielder/bad 1B?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
?
"He batted .240/.356/.417 with 25 homers and 70 RBI in 2009, but is a poor defender"
I’m sorry, was the first part of that sentence supposed to be positive?
I was promised lasagna.
I guess he felt like the line was not presented without the context of Cust’s position.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m not sure what you mean.
ResDog said (or implied) that Cust’s line isn’t positive, regardless of his defense. I’m saying it is. The fact that he can’t field has nothing to do with it.
I was promised lasagna.
I meant to imply it wasn’t positive for his position (corner outfielder) regardless of how well he plays it.
"It's too late now."
Here’s a link to the mean and median OPS+ by position in 2007. 105 was below the mean (107) but above the median (101) for left fielders.
With that defense hitting, though, hitting merely average for his position would make him close to a replacement level player overall.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
He is a poor hitter, but he is a poor defender.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
It was more of a commentary on the structure of that sentence
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Reminds me of my soccer team in HS
We were slow but we were bad.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously
Is there any reason at all to think Cust would be an improvement over Bowker (if, you know, Bowker got to play)?
and bowkers not a good soldier…lol
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 18, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
WHY D:
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
I eagerly anticipate seeing the five inside-the-park homers that will inevitably occur.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Fuck you, Jon Paul Morosi!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
FUCK YOU, JOHN PAUL JONES!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK YOU, DAVEY JONES
and take your locker with you
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
FUCK YOU, DAVEY CROCKETT!
Your hat is stupid!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK YOU BETTY CROCKETT
And your fucking cookbook!
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Betty whatnow?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
poetic license?
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
You’ll have to give me your poetic license number.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
the correct response was:
Davey Jones’ Locker?
I don’t even know ’er!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
No thanks. I am not sure where the hole in his swing is, but I’d have to assume that if Sabean is pursuing him than it is a slider in the dirt.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 18, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Do we have to?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 18, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
Bowker?
I don’t even know her (for the trifecta!)
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
We’ve already had Reggie Sanders once. No thanks.
by FutureDaydream on Dec 18, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
So the Mariners now have Bradley.
Are they hands-down now the best team in the AL West?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
If they add one more bat, like LaRoche or bring back Branyan, I think they’d be the team to beat. The Angels have gotten much worse this offseason and the A’s and Rangers are still sort of treading water.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That’s my stance. Even without getting another bat I think they are on top right now. The Angels took a huge hit this offseason, especially losing one of their best table setters in the division. The Rangers might be the only other team close to them right now.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Well, you have to account for the stuff the Mariners have lost and yes I am aware that both teams probably still have a few more significant moves to make.
Branyan: -2.5 WAR
Beltre: -4.0 WAR
Bedard: -2.2 WAR
I agree the Mariners and Angels are even now, perhaps the Mariners one win better. The Angels need to sign/trade for a better than league average starting pitcher and perhaps upgrade at 3B or LF. None of the remaining options are ideal. There are options, just costly at this point.
vr, Xei
How did you regain posting privileges here?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Ahh. For the first time, a black mark against Grant’s boss.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Mariners are having a great offseason. M’s === competent GM.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
I love The Z
Their GM is the man. With Ichiro/Figgy/Bradley tablesetting every game they should be much improved.
They've upgraded to a full
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I WANT TO BE THE VERY BEST
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ASH ZDURIENCIK
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yes, but how does Notto fell about this?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
TO TRAIN THEM IS MY CAAAAAAAAAAUSE!
/breaks down crying for knowing this.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I WILL TRAVEL ACROSS THE LAND
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
EACH POKEMON TO UNDERSTAND
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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IT’S YOU AND ME
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I KNOW IT’S MY DESTINY
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
POKEMON! OH, YOU’RE MY BEST FRIEND. NO REALLY, YOU’RE ACTUALLY MY BEST FRIEND.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
A HEART SO TRUUUUUE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
OUR COURAGE WILL PULL US THROUGH
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Does the song really have this many lyrics?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCZWtTxSFq8
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I’m more than happy to participate in all things Pokemon, and I’m more stoked than I care to admit about the coming of SoulSilver, but I am NOT watching the anime opening theme on YouTube while I’m at work.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
I can assure you that there’s no anime in that link.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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YOU’LL TEACH ME AND I’LL TEACH YOU
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
If not, it is pretty damn close. I am also very curios to see how the new ownership in TEX (when it happens) will affect (effect?) the division.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 18, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't necessarily say Uggla either ...
He plays poor defense, the Giants don’t have a position for him, and he’s set to get a big pay check in arbitration. So yeah, the package to get him should reflect these things as well as the Marlins desperation. Plus, J. Sanchez was a bad example because he is still going to receive low salary and contribute well beyond that salary.
But I don’t think much salary will drop off in 2011 or 2012. Of course, Renteria will be gone. But Lincecum will be further along in the arbitration line and all those 130 pitch starts may take a toll. So I think this is the year to deal a prospect or two not named Posey or Bumgarner to get a solid bat now.
What bats are available though? Adrian Gonzalez, perhaps, but there just hasn’t been that much trade talk out there this offseason outside of bad contracts, A-Gon and Uggla.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
And I don’t think the Pads would trade him in division. They seem pretty set to take players from Boston.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Pads may not, but PODS would.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 18, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
The difficult thing for the Giants this year is that the arbitration figures are such question marks. Will Lincecum get $10 million or $15 million? How about Wilson? Sanchez? Maybe people who have looked into this more will have a decent idea about Wilson and Sanchez, but it seems difficult at this point to gauge the total figure for these guys. I don’t envy GMs having to try to work with a spending limit while not really knowing what the guys they already have will have to be paid.
That said, other GMs seem to deal with this as well as just about everything else better than Sabean…
The lie that is the Giants budget is pissing me off more than I thought it would
It always annoyed me, but it seems especially so this season.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 2:58 PM PST reply actions
I hear you on that. I do understand that we pay more in debt for the stadium, but that said, last year the Tigers, Phillies, Astros, Mariners, Braves, White Sox and Cardinals all had higher team payrolls. I can understand the New York teams, LA teams, and maybe Chicago and Boston, but there’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to match these teams.
All I want for Christmas is for Larry Ellison to buy the Giants…
heh
Larry Ellison is crazy. Love that guy.
He’d just strafe the park in his MiG
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
It's because you want to win the WS
And the owners seem happy to contend for 3rd place. Why not? Win or lose, the Giants keep making money.
Yankees – Angels – Sawx – Twins
Phillies – Dodgers – Cardinals – Rockies
Giants
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I have a certified IQ chart that looks exactly like that. Same numbers and everything!
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Dec 18, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Yankees lose money six years running?
They must be bankrupt by now.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
The Boss does it for love of the game
Ok, not really.
The Forbes article only looks at strictly baseball operations and not related businesses. If you factor in revenue from the YES cable network, the Yankees are actually a very profitable team. The Yankees and YES are part of the same holding company and Steinbrenner owns about 30% of YES, which according to some estimates translates into about $50m of net profit annually.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Yep, they’re 30% owners of CSN Bay Area. And last year, TV ratings were up 39% from 2008, the third highest regional sports network ratings increase in all of MLB for the 2009 season
So to Lars’ and Scott Boras’ point, the Giants are perfectly capable of raising their payroll; the owners just don’t want to.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
that would be OK
if they were also capable of lowering ticket prices.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
/its a tarp image
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
not sure if I should rec this one
but I will for SFKMike in case he’s ill or has something better to do than post photoshopped Star Wars characters on a Giants Nerd board in the middle of December.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
risking the sarchasm
Unfortunately spending their payroll savings on Ivy League tuition and yachts is not going to bring you a winner to watch on TV. They don’t seem to be able to spend the money wisely anyway, but at least we could afford to go to more games to see cheap mediocrities than the expensive mediocrities currently on the field.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather watch a bad team on TV than waste my money to watch in person.
Spending $40+ and spending 5 hours to whatch a crappy team lose really, really pisses me off.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
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Paying to watch bad baseball is like paying for a Tabasco sauce enema. Thats what it is like with the Giants offense. Three to five minutes of torturous, unwatchable, incompetency. They swing like they have hookers waiting for them in the clubhouse
And the painful part, as the seasons continue to pile one shitty offensive performance on top of another, year in and year out, is that it is all so predictable. Even the casual inter-web cruiser knows before the Giants break camp, that there is no there, there.
And the reason is because those in charge of such things, either cannot or will not do anything to change it. Because they don’t have to.
But the most painful and frustrating part is that it hasn’t and doesn’t have to be this way. It is the greed and incompetency of a few that have made it so.
by E Ticket on Dec 19, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
this
I’m only able to make it to a handful of games anyway. In all honesty, this wouldn’t change for me if tix prices went up 25% and a title had any chance of delivery.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I'm just sayin'
if the money is spent on players, or player development, or re-signing pitchers, super.
If it’s spent on, I dunno, not baseball, I’m not sure how that savings helps deliver a title or a hitter to make Lincecum and Cain less depressed at pitching 6 inning shutout losses.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
I find it hilarious.
That they Giants went out and signed Zito and Rowand when the team absolutely stunk, essentially show the fanbase that management wasn’t going to cheap out. Now that it actually matters, however, management IS cheaping out, in large part because their dramatic PR signings have backfired so catastrophically.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
+1
I give most of the blame to MaGowan and I think the Giants do too as he is the one that lost his job over these.
by giantsrainman on Dec 19, 2009 1:19 AM PST up reply actions
Indeed. A lesson to us all that doing dramatic stuff for show is almost never a good idea. not that i ever learn.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 19, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
DIVIDENDZZZ!!!
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 19, 2009 10:53 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Why I hate reporters' quest to be the one to break Hot Stove news.
Exhibit A. Will this deal ever be consummated? (Yes, I know, TWSS.)
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 18, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions
It’s funny because Mike Lowell is just not that good anymore
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 18, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Wilson
I wonder if Sabean has thrown Wilson’s name out there in search of bat. He would seem more expendable than someone like Sanchez and is still under team control.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I told you
He’s rock hard
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
GM Z not done tablesetting
Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports tweets that the Tigers, Giants and Royals have interest in Jack Cust. ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick says the Mariners may be the favorites to sign Cust.
moar
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Thank God
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
of The NY Times says that Damon came back to the Yanks late Thursday and asked fortwo years and $20MM, however by that point the team had agreed to a deal with Johnson and there was no going back.
This is Reneria money
Just in case you haven’t felt completely creeped out today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf6_qDoCUu0
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MLB network last night
A quick recap on Giants topics:
- Sandoval “clogs up the bases”
- Giants “don’t need table setters, they need guys to cross the plate” (!)
- Rowand and Franchez were both labeled “average joe’s” for being the most average player at their position in the NL
- Lincecum the biggest bargain in the majors
There was a “stats” part of the show, and they talked a lot about OBP, NJ being discussed as being in the top 5 last year, and they were all shocked.
Anyone else catch the show? That’s all I can remember, I think my brain shut down after I heard those things.
F. the Lewis.
How can you cross the plate if noone sets it on the table? If the plate is still in the cupboard there’s nothing there to cross now is there?
That sounds really stupid
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
massively incredibly stupid
why are people still this stupid?
There’s so much information about how baseball scoring happens, that to claim to be a professional analyst and not know it is insane. The only way you can be this ignorant is by forcing yourself to be this ignorant.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
even beside the stats
have they not seen Pablo run? He’s kinda got that Robert Newhouse bowling ball thing going on. He’s not going to steal any bases, but neither is anybody else on the squad.
And if he carries one less 40 lb sack of cement in his jersey this season, I think that comment is even more ridiculous.
Maybe they got their Messican catchers confused and thought Molina was still there…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
this
now, Molina’s speed was a negative.
It would still hurt his value if he were a .400 OBP hitter, compared to a .400 OBP hitter with average speed. But with that OBP it would take an amazing lack of speed to make him “clog the bases”, one that might not exist for people who have functioning legs.
Molina is a 300 OBP player, and except for some Dingerz every other thing is negative.
Hmm, need to noodle the math. Wonder if there is some combination of power and speed that allows a 300 OBP to be palatable. I suppose defense should be factored in too.
Would also be interesting to find the worst OBP by a player who ranks as an average MLB player. Scott?
Further, the whole notion of “clogging the bases” is moronic. What’s the best environment for run scoring? Oh yeah, having a runner on every base. The bases are full, clogged, chocked, covered, et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseum.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
If you define "MLB Average" as 2 WAR or better
Miguel Olive: .292
Jimmy Rollins .296
There may be more.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Is Olivo good at defense? WAR doesn’t factor that.
I remember him being effective at throwing runners out.
Lethargy
It has me
Next To Last At -8.8 Runs According To
And, -6 Runs according to Chone.
by giantsrainman on Dec 19, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
wow
that’s embarrassing. In fact, that’s Rattorific.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
OT
Does anyone here know why my google reader feeds would be so delayed? For example this was posted at 1 pm and just showed in my reader now. It does this for pretty much all of the sites I subscribe to.
It's just frustrating
Yesterday I wanted to make a joke about Adrian Beltre’s testicles and two hundred people had already beat me to it.
by Into the Void on Dec 18, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
YOU GUYS SANG THE POKEMON THEME SONG WITHOUT ME!!!!!??!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 18, 2009 5:38 PM PST reply actions
THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MISS MOST OF THE DAY ON THIS THREAD.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
READ MY SIGNATURE!!!!
READ IT
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 18, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
READ YOUR DAMN SIGNATURE
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 18, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
READ YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 18, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
TRUE STORY: THAT RMEINDED ME THAT WE HAD EGGNOG SO I JUST DRANK SOME
#1 threat to America: Pandas
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 18, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
COOL STORY BRO
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
DON’T CALL ME DUDE, COMRADE.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
DON’T CALL ME GIRLFRIEND, BUDDY.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 18, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
I’M NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND, PALOCO.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
IT'S ENRICO POLLAZZO!
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
DON'T CALL ME HOT ROD
OPTIMUS!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
I take pictures
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 20, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
DOMT CALL ME OPTIMUS
MEGATRON!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
I was just making a Pulp Fiction reference, but apparently it’s a state of mind where you think you’re a volcano.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
OT
Info on the Twitter hax0rz http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/17/twitter-reportedly-hacked-by-iranian-cyber-army/
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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So, has anyone figured out who Duanel Jones is yet?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
the long lost brother of Andruw Jones?
by 49erEmpire on Dec 18, 2009 7:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
the ex-wife of Mike Jones?
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 18, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Who?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 18, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
(someone replies, MIKE JONES!) come on people.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 19, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants FO made him up just so they could say they did something.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Haha
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 19, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
you spelled his last name wrong
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Can we trade GM's with the Mariners?
by High_On_Lincecum's_Godliness on Dec 18, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply actions
how about if we throw in Frandsen and Lewis?
by 49erEmpire on Dec 18, 2009 8:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Grant, do you have any evidence that NJ didn’t sign because the giants would not offer a second year? Or any evidence that the giants didn’t offer a second year?
I’ve been following the NJ rumors fairly close and from what I’ve heard, the giants offered him everything the Yankees did. Can’t say I blame the guy for choosing the team with the bling.
I’ve been following the NJ rumors fairly close and from what I’ve heard, the giants offered him everything the Yankees did.
Exactly. So in order to better the offer, they’d have to offer more. Like, say, a second year.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 18, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Ding ding ding.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 18, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
I love the giants, but if I’m a player and the Giants and the Yankees offer me the same terms, especially on a short term deal, I’m in a New York state of mind.
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THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN'T DO
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
we always laugh at "hometown discount"
but for all we know he liked playing and/or living in NYC enough to forgo whatever Brain was waving at him.
And the ring, and batting 8th as DH, etc. ad infinitum.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
maybe he had some unfinished business there, having originally been a Yankee. We’re better off having not overpaid.
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
The funny thing about fielding an offense as bad as the Giants’: payroll space aside, virtually every hitter is worth more to your team than to any other.
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not funny
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
Does anybody know a fast way to gather WAR for a long list of players?
As in, a quicker way than manually searching for each player on the list?
Right now I’m trying to get the WAR of each free agent who has been signed this offseason, and I have a list handy.
Lethargy
It has me
Well if you go to fangraphs and click “leaders” (at the top of the page) you can then click “value.” If you want at that point you can sort on WAR, filter by position, etc. It’s not perfect for your purpose but it should get you there quicker than searching for each player individually. Link.
You can also search the team lists,
If your list is broken down by original squad, like this one is.
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Grant's boss sure works late sometimes
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
this
might be te most awesomest thing I’ve ever seen on teh internets.
My wife wants this in a nice glossy print for display in the home.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
this is like the deepest thing i’ve ever looked at.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 19, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
wrecced
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 19, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Grant’s boss was right.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Is it normal for my brain to be melting?
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Crakalaka
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 12:34 AM PST reply actions
Just doing my best Ryan Seacrest impression
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Good for you
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
The wife puts his radio show on every morning. He’s somewhat of a sissy, but tolerable over the radio.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 19, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
I want it to be April already, damnit
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
I’ll settle for the Cactus League, though.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll be in Arizona for the first couple weeks of spring training.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I’m not much of a hockey fan and my basketball teams (Warriors, UCLA) are giving me much grief. College football is basically over (one bowl game) and all there really is, is the 49ers. I’m more of a Giants than 49ers fan and can’t wait to see more Giants!
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a losing season ahead
we going to lose uribe and molina along with randy and penny. yeah this team got way worse. all 4 of those guys where huge for us last season. randy at the beginning of the season was a huge lift as was pennys presence after for the rotation. along with uribes hot hitting he was the second best hitter and molina was the third. this team is bare behind 4 players panda cain lincecum wilson. i dont know where you think the runs will come from?will cain be able to do what he did at the beginning of last season i think not along with zito alway being a question sanchez being inconsistent and a rookie #5 bumgarner.
Um...
Randy Johnson pitched in 22 games with a 4.88 ERA. Meh.
Penny pitched pretty well, but only appeared in 6 games. Meh.
Molina had the worst OBP in the majors. Ugh.
Uribe was decent, would like to see him back for a one year deal, but it’s not going to crush the team if he doesn’t return. Meh.
We may very well have a losing season next year, but it’s not going to be a result of the above four not returning.
F. the Lewis.
I have a question about Jermaine Dye
He is not a good outfielder. He strikes out too much. He doesn’t hit very well except that he hits home runs sometimes. He is old and not going to get better. In fact, it would be amazing if he stayed as good as he has been for the last couple of healthy years. He will command more money than he is worth and damage the future of the franchise if the Giants sign him. My question is this: Should we sign Jermaine Dye right now? There isn’t much left out there.
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
Since Paul Blart Johnson is no longer available, I’m sure Sabes will welcome Dye with open arms.
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Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
by kbsofaraway08 on Dec 19, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
SITTING ON UR HANDZ
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 19, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Then just promote someone from the minors and STFU, haha, i dunno, honestly i might be the minority that just doesnt care if they pick someone up or not, just play well this year
I know! Nobody was overpaid to play left field, and he isn’t even any better than Fred Lewis.
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NODOBY IS THE PROBLEM!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 19, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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NO.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 19, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants have exhausted my supply of give-a-fuck. I have none left.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 19, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions
I don’t have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It’s a depression. Everybody’s out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel’s work, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there’s nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there’s no end to it.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV’s while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that’s the way it’s supposed to be. We know things are bad – worse than bad. They’re crazy. It’s like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don’t go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, ‘Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won’t say anything. Just leave us alone.’
Well, I’m not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don’t want you to protest. I don’t want you to riot – I don’t want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn’t know what to tell you to write.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 19, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
“GET MAD you sons a bitches. You know what it takes to sell real estate? It takes brass balls to sell real estate.”
F. the Lewis.
by calpolynate on Dec 19, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 19, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
cheer up emo viking
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by shanghaijim on Dec 19, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
“Don’t talk about politics or religion.” This is all the equivalent of enemy propaganda, rolling across the picket line. “Lay down, GI! Lay down, GI!”. We saw it all through the 20th Century. And now on the 21st Century, it’s time to stand up and realize, that we should NOT allow ourselves to be crammed into this rat maze. We should not SUBMIT to dehumanization. I don’t know about you, but I’m concerned with what’s happening in this world. I’m concerned with the structure. I’m concerned with the systems of control. Those that control my life, and those that seek to control it EVEN MORE! I want FREEDOM! That’s what I want, and that’s what YOU should want! It’s up to each and every one of us to turn loose of just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities, because that is the central mode of control, make us feel pathetic, small, so we’ll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny. We have GOT to realize we’re being conditioned on a mass scale. Start challenging this corporate slave state! The 21st Century’s gonna be a new century! Not the century of slavery, not the century of lies and issues of no significance, of classism and statism, and all the rest of the modes of control… it’s gonna be the age of humankind, standing up for something PURE and something RIGHT! What a bunch of garbage, liberal, Democratic, conservative, Republican, it’s all there to control you, two sides of the same coin! Two management teams, bidding for control of the CEO job of Slavery Incorporated! The TRUTH is out there in front of you, but they lay out this buffet of LIES! I’m SICK of it, and I’M NOT GONNA TAKE A BITE OUT OF IT! DO YA GOT ME? Resistance is NOT futile, we’re gonna win this thing, humankind is too good, WE’RE NOT A BUNCH OF UNDERACHIEVERS, WE’RE GONNA STAND UP, AND WE’RE GONNA BE HUMAN BEINGS! WE’RE GONNA GET FIRED UP ABOUT THE REAL THINGS, THE THINGS THAT MATTER – CREATIVITY, AND THE DYNAMIC HUMAN SPIRIT THAT REFUSES TO SUBMIT! WELL THAT’S IT, that’s all I’ve got to say. It’s in your court now.
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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 19, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
You know what increases during porn?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 19, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Shit!
I know shit’s bad right now… with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
by kbsofaraway08 on Dec 19, 2009 9:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
We need Jermaine Dye
He has the electrolytes the Giants need
We are all the McCoven and we are all Pedro Feliz
Is Orange Crocs your solution?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 19, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
GO AWAY
I’M ROSTERBATIN’
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 20, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Just like everybody else in college, it feels AWESOME to be done with finals, but even better to get the best grades i’ve gotten in 2 years in school, plus i’m glad i got out of Ohio before this snowstorm came in, now back in the East Bay hearing from all my friends back on the East Coast about how it sucks that they’re getting up to a foot of snow
OIC
The start of the Eagles-49ers game Sunday has been moved to 4:15 p.m. EST from 1 p.m. because of a snowstorm in Philadelphia.
Well crap!
Now if they’d just move the Bengal game to the night game we’d be okie-dokie!
should be interesting on the tv broadcast front
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
there were already two afternoon games listed—Raiders/Broncos, and Packers/Steelers.
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
yea, i know, but honestly who cares about the steelers…. haha, kidding, but my big in pike is a HUGE steeler fan, and it’s funny because at the beginning of the year he would go nonstop in saying the steelers will win the super bowl, now? he’s making a TON of excuses
your in pike?
what school do you go to?
by panda revival on Dec 19, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
kiss my pike
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
wut?
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 20, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Born and raised in northern California. SSS aside, most of the people I’ve met from Socal were mind-numbingly vapid. Some of the most petty people I’ve ever met.
I’m from the bay as well. While I much prefer life up there, I gotta say, SoCal has a lot of good things going for it. I mean, hey, it’s all Cali, right?
Although, that doesn’t change the fact that Dodgers fans are shady assholes that will try to stab you in the parking lot.
by GrooveGiant on Dec 21, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
looks like Packers/Steelers get the boot.
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe AZ-Detroit? that would be cool.
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
It’s also available in Texas, NM, AZ, NV, Southern Oregon, NY, Virginia, ME and Vermont.
If you ever want to see which game goes where, check here: http://the506.com/nflmaps/
"meh"
THAT IS FUCKING AWESOME--!! !!
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 19, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
The Lowell to Texas trade was just called off
…meaning Boston is stuck with his $12 mil salary, at least for the time being.
I wonder if that might enable us to get one of the two Adrians (Beltre or Gonzalez) at a decent price? Boston was the biggest suitor for both of them, to my knowledge.
I thought that was a done deal like last week
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Ow
I was playing with a razorblade and i just cut myself hella bad
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 10:10 PM PST reply actions
You probably had it coming.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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first off, WHY were you fuckin around with a razorblade, and great use of “hella” i myself am 21 and from Oakland area, never really used it…
I was cutting a pencil. and I always say hella
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Glad to know you can still type!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 19, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
I dont know what you guys would do without me
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
Why were you cutting a pencil with a razorblade?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
It’s more practical than a pencil sharpener.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 19, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
boredom
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
ya
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING ON THE COMPUTER AT HOME ON A DAMN SATURDAY NIGHT IN THE BAY AREA???
well I was hanging out in Berkeley with my sister earlier. But I dont have a licence and im kinda in trouble still.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
drinking
like 2 months ago
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
17
Im almost free again, and hopefully I get my licence in like 2 weeks
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, not worth losing your license again, stay straight dude, i didn’t even start drinking until college… soooo 18 or 19? that way you don’t drive anywhere or anything
I didnt lose me licence, I just havent gotten it yet.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
Ya
I had my permit for more than a year, i had to renew it
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Ya, go meet up with your high school friends
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
ehh, surprisingly enough i wasn’t friends with a whole lot of the “in” crew in high school since i thought alot of em were just cocks, but the friends i do have aren’t back yet from SoCAL
oh really? when do they get off?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS??? umm they’re done, but comin back tomorrow, but yea dude, like in college, the friends i have ARE AWESOME! like here at home, these dudes seem way too stuck up
ya, I went and saw my sisters apartment thing today. Its pretty crazy. Every surface is painted with crazy murals and there just people smoking weed on every floor
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
HA, not surprised, that’s straight though, it’s funny dude, because people back in ohio think i smoke weed all the time and ask WHY i dont have medical marijuana
really? haha, well she goes to Berkeley, so no thinks it out of the ordinary at all
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
ya, they drink at parties, smoking is just an everyday thing.
My friend just sits around and smokes all day now though. its sad.I dont even like hanging out with him anymore.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
yep, that’s exactly what smoking does, that’s why i dont do it much, since it just consumes you and makes you lazy
i saw what happened to him
made me stay away from it. I see nothing wrong with drinking at parties as long as I have a ride though
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
THANK YOU!!! great head on your shoulders dude, that’s the way to go. I’ve fucked up before once but got a pass from the university police when drunk driving underage
wow, those are some lax police. But ya, im not trying to ruin my life, or someone elses
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 19, 2009 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, i’m never doin that again, i made up why i was driving and all that to the police, but they just told me to never do it again, so i never have. I was drunk but fine to drive… terrible way to think. Good for you though dude, you’ll have fun in college
Ya, i cant wait. I want to get away from my parents
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Same thing what i said dude, it’s the best thing ever. Like my dad is overly protective which blows, always has to protect me i guess… hence being away helps
Exactly, my mom is fucking neurotic
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
Lie
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
haha, i mean my parents didn’t care i drank nor got arrested… but my dad is WAY TOO FUCKING HAPPY and all that bullshit, so i just ignore it… and he talks ALL THE TIME
Oh
my parents dont let me do shit. I have to be home by like 11:30. Before they caught me drinking, I had never done anything in life bad. never gotten in fucking trouble and they still wouldnt let me do shit.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck that, wow, yea some parents are just like that, i guess your parents want to be so involved in your life… you got any siblings?
Ya
she didnt do anything bad in high school though. She went to parties occasionally, but never drank or smoke till she got to college. I dont know, i think they trusted her more. She is their favorite child forsure
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
Shit, now you get the treatment… my girlfriend definitely gets that, she can’t drink, smoke, go out past 11:30 or 12, can’t do ANYTHING
Damn
I dont know. Im negotiating with my parents. if theyre going to be that strict, im just going to start sneaking out.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Yea, i mean, just doesnt seem right at all, every kid in high school should be able to go out and chill with friends, maybe not a party, but just chill past 11:30 and go bowling or something
Amen, she doesnt trust me at all. Even before I did everything bad. Her idea of trust was to let me stay out till 11:30, but I usually had to be at someones house, and it had to be someone she knew. Its bullshit
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
wow, so you can’t do shit, only a year or two left dude, and once you’re in college, you wont have to worry about it
ya but I wanna kick it with my high school friends while I still can. These are supposed to be my glory years. Im making them let me go out more. Once I get my licence I will be able to do stuff, because ill actually have a way to get around
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
yea for sure, you’ll be straight when you get your license, more trusting, it’s like another step. plus yea, you’re high school friends you’ll keep forever, i mean, you’ll make a ton in college, but when you come back from school, who you gonna hang out with
I have a couple friends that have been my best friends since I was like 2. One goes to a different high school but lives right up the street from me, ive known him my whole life
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
I sleep at friends houses all the time. I used to do it like every weekend. Only with guys though
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:33 AM PST up reply actions
AWWWWW, WUT ABT DA CHICKZ!?!?!?!?!? get yo game on brotha!!! only kiddin, yea, i did it a few times, it kinda gets you away from all that stuff at home
Ya, ive been invited but ive never been able to go. I couldnt think up a solid lie and I new my mom wouldnt let me cause their parents werent home
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
ya no way
unless she knew their parents or something
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
I found it funny when parents wouldn’t let a guy I knew go to a girls place when the dude is gay. The parents had no idea that being at a girls house would have been safer.
"meh"
thats pretty funny
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:44 AM PST up reply actions
haha, amazing, i mean my parents were like that, if i said a word about drinking they told me to call them for a ride or just stay there… but i never went out, like i didn’t go out much until Junior or Senior year
neither did I, but I actually started doing shit this year and actually started enjoying life. My grades even improved, no joke. Now that im grounded im so fucking bored I dont even ever wanna do my homework
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
definetly. my mom fucking went to berkely in the 70s. Most of her brothers and sisters are pretty chill. I dont know what made her so uptight.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
probably, but I dont imagine ill be that strict. i honestly dont think my dad cares that much, but he just goes along with my mom
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
pretty much. he was mad at me cause he thought i was with a drunk driver, and he was mad i lied. That fact that I drank didnt seem to bug him much
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
yea, i agree with him dude, i mean it’s the fact you lied, totally see his point. but i mean, drinking isn’t THAT bad unless you go crazy with it
I usually dont. i was pretty bad that time though, bad enough that people were talking about and they heard.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
Yea, good thing dude! i mean go have fun, enjoy life, you’re young, and you know, sometimes having fun and relaxing improves your grades a ton, it did for me this semester
My grades have fallen since i got grounded, an my parents would never believe me, but I know that the two are related
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
drinking, and lying to my parents about where i was staying
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
well, its been about 2 months. There was no official timeline. Hopefully this week or next week. maybe after break
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
you just get scolded or something?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
pretty much, get bitched at, and really i’ve never done anything too out of the ordinary… well, in your case that’s different
ya. Well I got both.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
not really, she doesnt live with us and I dont talk to her that much. She never did anything bad in high school
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 1:04 AM PST up reply actions
well, that wasnt my first time. The only time they know about though.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck America
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 1:11 AM PST up reply actions
I dont know, but im only 17
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 1:14 AM PST up reply actions
fuck no
Were going down to Mexico and partying our asses off
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
hahahaha. You watched it too I see
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 20, 2009 1:22 AM PST up reply actions