About those Adrian Beltre rumors....
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 1:48 PM PST
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PrintSometimes a meme comes around that I just don’t get. I was all in on those LOLCats – heck, I’m pretty sure I started them – but I can’t get into the Talk Like a Pirate Day, for one. It’s a joke that I don’t get, and I’m pretty sure I don’t care to.
The Giants-related meme I don’t get is that Adrian Beltre would be a good idea. I know the science behind the idea; Beltre’s road splits away from Seattle are very impressive, and his defense is stellar. All things being equal, he’d be a nice player to take a chance on. But here’s what scares me…
Fair? Maybe not. But when I see a player have a down year right after he turns 30 – with a higher BABIP than normal, mind you – my instinct isn’t to take a gamble on that player, especially if it forces Pablo Sandoval to first, and costs about $40M or so, and requires the Giants to cough up their first-round pick. (My bad. I thought he was a Type-A free agent.)
If Beltre were guaranteed to repeat his 2008, I’d be in favor of a deal. But a large part of his value comes from his defense, which isn’t always a good bet to be consistent:
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If Beltre moves from "otherworldly" to "damn fine" with the glove, and his bat doesn’t rebound back to the 25+ homer guy who was consistently hurt by Safeco, he wouldn’t be worth $8M to $10M a year. No, no. In fact, as long as I’m playing the picture is worth a 1,000 words game, here’s what that description would remind me of:
Just when you think you’re out, they pull you back in. Maybe I’m just scarred by the recent history of the position.
I know Beltre was hurt last year with some sort of awful testicle laceration or something, so maybe I’m being too hard on his performance last season. He’s been a good player. It’s just that I’d be nervous enough about him in 2010, much less 2012, to make a large financial commitment.
Pass.
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Someone's been hangin out with timmy
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Thank God for a voice of reason
These people here don’t listen to me, thank you for passing on The Word.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
We are all Adrian Beltre
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Yessir, I'll go for that.
Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says the Giants increased their offer to Johnson to the $5.5-6MM range. Johnson earned $5.5MM this year to finish a Jim Bowden-authored contract signed in March of ’06. The Mariners remain in the mix as well.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
GET OFF UR HANDZ NICK
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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GET OFF YOUR JOHNSON\
ouch wait
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
YESYESYESYESYESYES
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Thanks to roger
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TWSS
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
womp womp
4:24pm: King now says the Yankees are “moving toward” a one-year deal with Johnson, which could be announced tomorrow.
Thing A
Just give Porkins a 2 year deal! Sheesh!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
stay on target…
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Dec 17, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Why would he want to go through that again?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 17, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
let's be clear
I saw many a games at Safeco last year. His GLOVE IS TREEEEEEMENDOUS. The nut thing was when he was hit w/o wearing a cup. Good glove, bad balls. How the &#%_(& do you play 3B w/o a cup on?
In high school
I played 3B without a cup.
No joke.
I was awesome.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Dec 17, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Wiffle ball league don’t count.
True story, I gave my room mate in college a black eye playing wiffle ball. He then gave me three stitches in my nose the next time I pitched to him.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I gave my room-mate a concussion playing racquetball.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I once punched my friend in the face when I went down a slide in the school playground.
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I’m still mad about that. You’re a grown man, for crying out loud!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
In my defense, you were being kind of whiny that day.
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You say that as if it was somehow out of the ordinary.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
How can a racquetball play a concussion? Your comment makes no sense.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, it’s the 21st century. Raquetballs can do anything they want without fear of persecution.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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In my day, racquetballs knew their place.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
and they would make me a sandwich without getting uppity
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
And if I didn’t like the sandwich, they’d make me another!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
darn right
and they’d get me a beer.
Those were the days, before racquetball lib and all that nonsense
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
These days I can’t get two sandwiches and a beer without either paying for it or getting it myself. It sucks!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
I gave my love a cherry that had no stone.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions
Well, I hit really hard and his head got in the way of one of my crushing forehands. He was concussed.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I played without a cup, too. Which is why I was an outfielder!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
you are one brave DUDE
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Beltre is the best 3b I have even seen at charging bunts and slow runners and nailing the runner at 1b.
And then nails them at 1B.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
Now I can see how the cup gets in the way.
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Dec 17, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
HIS TESTICLE!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
HIS WHAT?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
MY GOD MAN, HIS TESTICLE!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Sign him!
The man goes balls out 100% of the time!
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
and all caps returns. of course: TESTICLE.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
Teslicles Deviant to Fudd's Law.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:09 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not into the whole Beltre thing. He has to outhit Travis Ishikawa to be an improvement. I think it’s at best 50-50 that he can do that. And the best case contract seems to be like 3/$20M. That has a lot of potential to be horrible.
I guess I’d rather have him than Derosa.
DeRosa will be cheaper, better with the stick and worse with the glove, and can play all over. I’d prefer one helping of DeRosa, and I’ll pass on the plate of Beltre.
Everything I’ve read has Derosa costing just about the same per year as Beltre, but quite possibly for fewer years. A Renteria contract for Derosa sounds pretty bloody awful to me.
Yup. I agree. DeRosa is firmly ensconced on my Do Not Want list.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Does he really need to outhit Ishi if he also gives us better D at 3B?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
It depends on how much better his D would be at third than Pablo, and how much worse Pablo would be than Ishikawa at first. I’m guessing the defensive improvement overall would be in the neighborhood of 10 runs (one win). So if he didn’t hit better than Ishikawa, that’s what he’d be good for: one win. I don’t think the Giants can afford to spend $10M per year on a player who makes them better by 10 runs.
Less rationally, I’m not wild about the idea of the Giants going for a guy who only makes the team better by preventing runs. A team that scores runs now and again is ever so much more watchable.
I wish this had a title so I could hide it.
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Who let Andrew Zimmern in?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
DINOSAUR EGGS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
I like the patterning on the right one.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Uh, too much
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 17, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like the right number to me.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Uh-oh
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Keep PR away they might try to fry and eat them!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Tunica albicans!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
“Now playing third and batting cleanup – Pablo Sandoval”
Go find a 1b, Sabes. There are plenty 1b who can help this team and would be less expensive.
FP Santangelo addressed the idea of Beltre playing at AT&T
while filling in on KNBR last week. He was a teammate of Beltre with the Dodgers and said he did not think Beltre was a good fit in the Giants’ home park. Said Beltre would get frustrated with the park’s dimensions and would tend to get pull happy and that would affect his hitting overall.
On another note, he was down on Nick Johnson… not enough power out of a middle of the order first baseman.
He spoke pretty highly of Mark DeRosa however, especially his approach to the game and his versatility.
NICK NEEDZ MOAR ROIDZ
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
FP Santangelo used to play baseball.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
No way!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
I’m serious! He totally did.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
How come he's never mentioned it?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Too humble, I guess.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
No way!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that’s not what F.P. stands for. Especially since Moron doesn’t begin with a P.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I’m pretty sure that Beltre’s doctors have advised him against being pull happy until he’s completely healed.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
/golf clap
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
If only Nick Johnson could be some other kind of first-baseman!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
DID YOU KNOW THAT FP SANTANGELO PLAYED PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I agreed with everything until the last sentence. Fuck FP Santangelo.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Dec 17, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Mark Derosa signs with giants
/Deposits 1/2 of what the Giants over payed him into a account for FP
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Let's all relax
I’ll only sign Adrian Beltre once the tires have been kicked. I love tires.
by Definitely Not Brian Sabean on Dec 17, 2009 2:13 PM PST reply actions
There's an app for that
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
LOL
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 17, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Well...
Besides his breakout year in 2004, he had a 97 OPS+ before and a 101 OPS+ after.
I guess he’d have power, although his power dropoff is a very big issue.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
I guess I’d go 2 years no problem.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
Mind the gap
ESPNBoston.com’s Gordon Edes reports the Boston Red Sox have ended negotiations with free-agent 3B Adrian Beltre (Mariners). The team has no desire to meet the asking price of agent Scott Boras and is not willing to wait around until late December or early January to see whether the price drops. Beltre is believed to be seeking a five-year deal worth $13 million-$15 million annually.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Mhm..
Good luck with that.
The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!
Oh No
Now that we now the parameters of what he wants we can reasonably conclude Sabean is kicking the tires on a 6/$94M type deal with an option for year 7 at $20M or a $19.9M buyout.
by W8ingForATitle on Dec 17, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
win
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Hello, earth to Scott Boras...
You are a greedy dickhead and there is no way anyone is stupid enough to ever sign a mediocre player like Adrian Buttray to such an outrageous contract. Do everyone a favor and hurl yourself into the ocean with an anchor tied to your waist so we don’t have to see your slimy sleazy smiling face polluting my favorite sport ever again.
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 17, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it’s pretty hard to make the case that he’s stupid.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Also, it’s a false dichotomy – he could be doing his job greedily.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Greedy?
Make NO MISTAKE Boras IS as greedy as they come…but it is his job. The difference is that he finds ways to make it work most of the time…but maybe he will start endplaying himself, just as Michael Crabtree’s agent did. The guy’s rep has been seriously harmed…the contract was MUCH WORSE than the 9ers originally offered, but there are some clauses which make it look pretty. Boras pulls a couple of those situations and his stock drops precipitously….we can only hope.
He’s too slimy for the anchor would stay tied to his waist…it would slide off.
/pic of Theo Epstein in a gorilla suit saying "LOLWUT?"
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
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STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Cheers
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Again
This is Boras’s bullshit smokescreen to reframe the debate so that three years seems reasonable. Same as $50 million for Strasburg. Same as $23 million for Lincecum (different agent, same technique).
Literally no one thinks he will sign for this much money. Not Scott Boras. Not Adrian Beltre. No one.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
ahahaha
The league should collude to just shut Beltre out of baseball for a year, if that’s what he’s asking for. I can’t believe that isn’t a practical joke
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
We'll get Boras'd for sure
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
That was one of my favorite sketches
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
That young, huh.
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by Natto on Dec 17, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s younger than my brother!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I’m never going to post here again.
The Basil Fawlty Moderating Strategy:
"We could run a nice blog here if we didn't have all these members getting in the way."
Kevin Frandsen, come back!
I was afraid this would happen.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of which
new hot stove news: I shouldn’t be telling you this but I’m looking at a Noonan/Gillespie for a beard trimmer and Hawaiian shirt swap.
by Definitely Not Brian Sabean on Dec 17, 2009 2:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I like how many pictures there are in this post.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
yeah, I didn’t even have to read it.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
each fills about a thousand words
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
too early for an OT?
I was watching the silly Elvis Costello show last night, and Neko Case was on it (amongst other songwriters, great episode). Reminded me how awesome her new album Middle Cyclone is. Anyone else hear it?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Middle Cyclone is, indeed, awesome. Definitely in my top 10 of the year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
If you have Sundance on demand or something, you should definitely check out last night’s Spectacle… Elvis Costello with…
She was amazing. She and Elvis did an awesome version of Prison Girls
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Thanks for the reminder, we were going to check and see if we even got Sundance. I don’t think we do.
If I ever meet Declan Patrick Mcmanus
I’m going to thank him for producing this.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions
I luuurve that album… almost made 9th grade worth the effort.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 18, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
George King of NY Post now says the Yankees are “moving toward” a one-year deal with Johnson, which could be announced tomorrow.
moving towards johnson eh?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
goddammit
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
SEE I TOLD YOU
THE YANKEES ARE LIKE “HEY MAN, COME PLAY WITH US FOR A YEAR” and the guy is like “OKAY!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
The article says he finds the idea of returning to NY “enticing”.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Should say
The article says he finds the idea of returning to disabled list "enticing"
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 17, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
more like
I CAN HAZ RINGZZZ!!!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Weirdo.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
NO U!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
The article says he finds the idea of returning to NY "enticing".“enriching”.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
GOOD THING WE NON-TENDERED GARKO THEN
WE’RE REALLY GONNA UPGRADE AT FIRST
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
3 years 30 million adam laroche
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
3 years 30 million mark derosa
the phrase “professional bat” is said 50 times at the press conference
DeRosa is now asking for 3yrs/$18M if the Giants could get that third year to be an option it may well be a decent pickup
There is no justification for 3 years to DeRosa.
Not based on age, not based on performance, not based on demand (at least as far as I can see).
"…this thing which tells time."
a third year option may be the reason he signs. The reason I believe the Giants should consider DeRosa is versatility, production and clubhouse presence.
If Bochy wants to keep Sandoval at third then DeRosa can play either 1b or corner OF. If the young OFers do not produce then DeRosa could be a corner OF. If Sanchez goes down – voila! A solid RHH.
Believe this is worth 2yr commitment with a third year option
derosa doesn’t hit like a 1b or corner OF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I always have a beef with the notion that the Giants should acquire a player for his “clubhouse presence.” I’m fairly certain we’ve got a good handful of players already who are good guys in the clubhouse.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I’d rather have the guy that is a good player.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Who knows?
Perhaps DeRosa is a Zep fan and will bring his copy of Presence into the clubhouse.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Or maybe Mark will immediately take the Giants’ money Christmas shopping and delight all his new budz with clubhouse presents.
– clank –
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
3 years would be stupid
I wouldn’t even want him for 1 year. Hes a mediocre hitter and he can’t play defense.
Ding ding ding
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
if Sabean was goinna try and sign Little Nicky Johnson to a 1yr/$6M deal he should be open to a trade with Jays for Overbay. Prior to the winter meetings there were rumors the Jays were looking to unload Overbay. Now that Brett Wallace is a Jay and they want him to play 1b Overbay should be a player dump.
Wouldn’t mind that, since I assume he’ll be available basically for free.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
He’d better be.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
For some reasonn I keep thinking of Ogilvie from Bad News Bears whenever I see Overbay’s name.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Ovaltine
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
If Overbay becomes a Giant
It will take approximately 1 weeks worth of games before someone calls him Lyle Overdue.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
the glass is round, the jar is round
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Would the Jays eat any of Overbay's salary
because if they would not then I wouldn’t give up Tanner.
wil for GM
at least long enough to kick Overbay’s tires.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
Its the NEW YORK POST FOR CRIST SAKES. The ran this on their front page!
THEY HAVE NO CREDIBILITY!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
So many people read the Post, though
What’s it called when you laugh and cry at the same time? That’s my commute every morning.
Oh, hell.
I’m laughing all over again.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
wow i love the NYP now
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Gone at $5.5 mil for 1 yr
6:13pm: The deal is now near completion, says Davidoff. Pending a physical, Johnson will agree to a one-year deal with the Yankees worth about $5.5MM.
Yep. Sabes is an idiot OR he can’t sell the Giants to any hitter. Free Agent approach is seemingly dead, back to organization destroy trades.
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Why not do the two years? I don’t get it
You’ll do 2 years 18 mil for Renteria but not 2 years 12 mil for Johnson???
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
FACE KERSPLOSION! I am really mad about this.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
well duh
that’s why the Giants CAN’T do two years.. they gave them to Rent and Scott. So now they’re out of years. Those things don’t grow on trees you know.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
SHIT PISS FUCK CUNT COCKSUCKER MOTHERFUCKER TITS
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Family Reunion?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I just really wanted johnson
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
I just thought it was a reference to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBIID49cMI0
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lol
never heard of that
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I'm old school like dat
dats how i rooooll
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
not a dumb move by Nick, to pad his stats with the NYYs for a year.
Sabean better swoop with a 2 year, maybe a vesting third based on playing time in either year or somethin
cheering for Adam Witter, who will hit bigleague dingers some day.
Still yelling "Go, Antoan"
Yeah
If he could pad his stats in that ballpark and show the world he can stay healthy for a full season (easier to do DHing), his value would go up next off-season.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Do people stay healthy for a whole year at AT&T?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
If he pads his stats
that would be awesome. Because I singed him in our dynasty league.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
The Giants should make Nick Johnson a 1 year, $8M offer
what’s the downside? There is no way they should lose to NYY on this, because you know they will offer Damon 2 years otherwise and that scares me.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I’d rather go 2 years $10M
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Dec 17, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
then would you go 3/17? I just had this exact conversation with a buddy and we had a hard time finding where to draw the line.
Thing A
For only $2 mil? How could you not?
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
I think NJ wanted to be a DH
And Sabean couldn’t offer enough to overcome the fact that he’ll be doing half as much work in NY as he would have had to in SF.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Just the Yankees and Nick Johnson so entwined
And these visions of Jermaine Dye that conquer my mind
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Notice how Grant brings up a topic that sparks enough debate so he can sneak in his little bit about being the originator of LOLcats.
"It's too late now."
/copyrights LOLlamas
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
YES
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Can’t…stop…watching. Winner!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Wow
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 17, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
But how do they defecate?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 18, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
We've already been Zitoed by Boras...
I don’t want to get Beltred as well. I don’t think a Boras-negotiated contract has EVER proved to be good value for the team. Not Beltran -$&years, not Texiera -$&years, not ARod -$&years. And my God, consider GARBAGE the guy has pedaled to overmatched GMs: Zito, Andruw Jones, Luke Hochevar, Manny Roidmirez. I even think he picked Washington’s pockets with Strasburg. Yes the kid’s fastball is fast, but from what I saw, it had a straight-as-a-string quality, no late movement. It should be the first thing they teach in GM school: When Scott Boras calls, hang up.
by betterthanbochy on Dec 17, 2009 2:48 PM PST reply actions
Beltran is a hell of a value
I’d absolutely be thrilled to have that deal as a Giant; instead, we spent our money on Zito and Rowand.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Beltran. A-Rod (the first time, when he signed with Texas). Vlad. Those kinds of players hit the open market once every decade or so, and they’re the ones you go nuts for.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I wish the Giants had tried for Beltran.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
BUT THEN THEY WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD JEFF FASSERO, MIKE MATHENY, AND DEIVI CRUZ!!!!
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
bonds
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
At what point does velocity overcome lateral motion?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
I feel like they scare most men.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
HIS TESTICLE!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Can we get some more testicle pictures in here please? And make sure not to include a title so it can’t be hidden, thanks.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
he’s had an up & down career
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
He’s going to apathetic a three-year DeRosa deal all over your new suit.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, both are doable, especially because they don’t have to pay Garko’s $1.5M!
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Then there will be a layer of my own vomit on top of that.
Hope my dry cleaner can get all that out.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Right. Like the guy in the $3,000 suit is gonna give a sh*t about the guy who can’t afford to buy a new shirt for press announcements. COME ON!
"It's too late now."
I felt bad
I bought Sabes a new vest for his press conference upon signing Podsednik to a 4-year deal
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
I hope the vest had clown pictures on it.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Did someone forget to turn our Hot Stove on?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Why? They’re not on our team any more… except for Freddy “not-the-not-the-problem” Sanchez.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Who has renewed himself by moving from us...to us.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
To be fair, Justin Miller signed with the Giants.
I know this because he is now dead to me.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Doesn’t matter. He’s dead.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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OT
Kawakami tweeted this earlier
Getting good nominations for the New Credibility: Independent fan websites like McCovey Chronicles & GoldenStateofMind.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
only an outsider would call this place credible
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Drop the C and the R, and you’ve got yourself a deal!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
mmmmm MCC
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I don't care what kind of toppings are added
There is no way I am eating Grant.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
What about Grant's boss?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
been there, done that, eh?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure i like us being mentioned in the same breath as GSOM
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Also, I have no clue what that first part means.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I think New Credibility is hip lingo for “Intelligent Journalism That Isn’t Actual Journalism”.
Where actual journalism used to be the credible thing, now Grant is.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
By this interpretation, he’s actually acknowledging that he’s full of shit as a journalist. That’s why I like it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
we’re in this (credible) thing?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
He was talking about how many non-newspaper figures are independent of team influence in the Bay Area.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Oh, I guess that makes sense.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Well, maybe.
It’s a new generation
It’s a hallucination
It’s a mystic vibration
It’s just intimidation
It’s the will of the people
It’s the church with the steeple
It’s the sacred devotion
To an unhealthy notion
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 18, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
/scat-town
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Scoo-biddy-doo-bop!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
meh
there are a couple mods there that seem to like him a lot for some reason, but its not all of them. There are actually a few really, really good contributors who know their stuff. There’s still some quality stuff there, you just have to dig through a lot more crap to get to it than you do here…..or at least the crap isn’t as fun to dig through there as it can be here. Also there just isn’t really a Baggs equivalent for the Warriors. As bad as I think most of Kawakami’s stuff is, it does tend to be juicy and rumory and thats what people love to discuss.
Thing A
P SIZZLE LAYING THE PANDOWN IN THE HOUSE
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Oh I get it
he’s saying that Grant’s opinions are free from team influence.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
It’s a follow up to his earlier tweet:
Hard-hitting journalism is on the wane, especially in Bay Area sports coverage.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
LOL Chronicle
But seriously, if you want real journalism go to Blazers Edge. It takes like 15 recs to make a post green!
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
First:
Maybe you don’t care about newspapers’ decline. But in Bay Area sports, how many non-newspaper figures are INDEPENDENT of team influence?
Second:
Answer: Not many & number is dwindling… If you can’t stand me, just remove me from the discussion. Look around. Tell me who’s credible.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I think the team definitely influences his opinion. For instance, when they sign Mark DeRosa for 3 yr/&30M his opinion of them will suffer.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
maybe it’s like when you write a memo and cc: Grant, except now it’s mcc:<>
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Kawakami tweets as if he has credibility to begin with
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 17, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Was there an Old Credibility?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
i think you drink that
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
well, I was searching for "snobbish elitist foodie group"
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
And I was looking for penis jokes.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
What’s the difference between Tiger Woods and penis?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
Tiger Woods isn’t a body part. Rather, he is a collection of ones.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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And zeroes.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
TIGER WOODS IS THE MATRIX
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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There’s probably a FOREskin punch line in there somewhere, but it’s also probably not a funny one.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, that’s THREE minutes I waited for that punchline.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I guess I should just come out and admit it. I don’t actually know what a punch line is.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
That’s what I was showing you when I went down the slide.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I wish I had shown your face what a kickline is. :(
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
A quick Google search for “what is the difference between Tiger Woods and a penis?” reveals there is no punchline.
Though maybe WolframAlpha.com would mathematically compute one for us…
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
If Johnson is off the market, I’ll reluctantly join the pro-Beltre ranks.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m still okay with that, but there’s not a lot of viable options left.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
this
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. This is next best.
Moving my tent out of the Uggla camp.
Anyone think this thought has even crossed Sabean’s mind?
Actually what are the odds that somone other than DeRosa or Ishikawa is are starting 1B?
"…this thing which tells time."
DeRosa over Delgado?
I’m going to save a lot of money next year not buying tickets and posting snarky comments here without turning the game on, saving a lot of aggravation.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
So the decision comes down to
An oft-injured Johnson or a pair of broken testicles.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
sounds like choices at the retirement home
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Question #2 is: Harang or Lowe?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I think this is where I am too.
Probably don’t like him enough to pay the cost though. I think it will cost more than Tanner and Frandsen for example, and that’s about where I’d top out.
"…this thing which tells time."
yea
I know. But I just find it tough to say that Carlos Delgado or Adam LaRoche headline my offseason want-list. I guess I could get on board with Overbay if the Marlins would really rather pay Uggla than deal him for a very ho-hum package of prospects.
Thing A
His defense is about half of his overall value, and he hasn’t shown any signs of breaking down yet. Someone else claimed his shoulder injury wasn’t a big deal.
Someone else compared his road stats to Jason Bay’s over the last 5 years and concluded that they were pretty similar hitters.
Does anybody know a good park adjusted STATs site?
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
You can always use the neutralize stats tool on BB-ref (click “More Stats” and scroll to the bottom.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
While Beltre’s road numbers have been impressive, I have trouble just dismissing his home numbers. They’re a part of his “true talent level”, too. He’s probably somewhere in between and, while he probably isn’t an 82 OPS+ player, he probably isn’t a 110, either.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I think he’s probably a 100-105 OPS+ player, with maybe a 20% or so chance of actually being an 80-85 OPS+ guy at this point.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I am maybe not so optimistic. Related note: what is the standard deviation of OPS+?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yeah,that’s why I was looking for park-adjusted numbers. Which turned out to not be so great.
/enthusiasm ebbing
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Fangraphs (new) RC+ is park-adjusted. Beltre was at 87 for 2009, with 100 being average. Even if you discount the park adjustment as being insufficient compensation to a RH power hitter, his away OPS last season was .717, so you can’t blame Safeco for his 2009. 2006-2008 he was a pretty damn good hitter away from home though.
On another note, this site is working like crap today.
wow, really?
Beltre’s not the worst thing in the world but if that means no Uggla or no other real hitting upgrade then I’m sure the Ginats will keep their string of historically bad offenses going quite nicely.
On the bright side that means I was right last year when I kept thinking “crap, if the Giants are so totally incapable of finding a 1B that can hit they might as well just leave Pablo there”. I assume that’s the scenario with Beltre?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Presuming the Fish still think they are selling the second coming of Joe Morgan I am down to Glaus, Overbay, and Delgado. I can’t really tell which one I lean towards more but I might be the most leery of Delgado. I know I am the most leery of Bochy with Glaus. Overbay would require Sabean not insisting on paying $29.99 per burger at the drive through. If that doesn’t drive fan to want to drink I am not sure what would.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
If Johnson goes to the Yankees, that pretty much guarantees LaRoche or Pods, doesn’t it?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
GIANTS SIGN BELTRE!!!!!
Nah, I’m just bustin’ your balls ova here
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
and I never miss happy pony.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Ha… lfy pony?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
You might think I just got off the crazy boat, Grant, but I don’t think your blind statistics and failure to looks at anything that wasn’t printed on your precious spreadsheet means anything. Beltre hurt his testicle. Like, he really hurt it. The guy can hit. You all suck. God dammit.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
Atkins
Atkins ended up getting $4 million from the Orioles with up to $500k in incentives for plate appearances. I just don’t understand signings like this. If a guy has one off year, especially due to an injury that has fully healed, that’s one thing, but this guy has been going downhill quickly the last few years. The Orioles even threw in an $8.5 million club option for 2011 ($500k buyout).
I know I’m not going to find much disagreement here, but I’m just surprised at how much he ended up getting…
Yeah, considering just how little a guy has to do to be worth $4 million in one year and considering the fact that Atkins hasn’t even reached that level the last two years, it seems like a lot. I would have done like $1.5 mil with 500K-1mil in incentives at the most.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Then perhaps be thankful that he wasn’t on Sabean’s gut feeling?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Man, the more I think about all of the FA options, the more I think they all suck.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I wish we had more in the way of interesting trade chips and that we hadn’t already blown $6 mil on Freddy Sanchez.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Well,
who would want Alderson anyway, he’s done nothing at the ML level.
"…this thing which tells time."
Let me ask you this
If all the free agents suck, why would we want $6M more to spend on one or more of them and a gaping hole at 2B to fill?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
of shit players
Sanchez seems a better option than DeRosa. Uggla can play first.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Moving Uggla to first essentially kills almost all of his value.
And calling the second base crop out there a bunch of “shit players” is a bit much. They’re all comparable to Sanchez and might not end up in the same salary range.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I think we can agree
Whoever we will trot out there next year > Matt Downs
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
that's my point
who cares about positional value with no good options at 1B now that the Yanks will probably get Johnson. We need RBBIYES NAD DIGNERZ
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Positional value is
I think, something you worry about once you are near a league average offense. If we can bring in 30 HR, I don’t think we should be all that picky about where on the field it comes from. Same could be said for a .400 OBP, or 25 HR’s, or a .375 OBP and so on.
"…this thing which tells time."
but the 30 HRs, while they would be nice to have, don’t necessarily come with a great overall offensive player.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
LET ME SHOW U MY FANTASY TEAM
Dan Uggla is a good offensive player. He’d instantly double our HR production from the 1B position. His BA, while generally low, was pretty good last year (forgive me for not knowing the exact number you effing nerds) and he has played at Dolphin Shark Field his whole career so it can’t be helped if he’s not golfing balls into the right field stands like Johnny Damon.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Uggla is a similar hitter to Ryan Garko, the nice thing about him is that he also plays 2B.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
and hits lots of dingers
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
A 111 OPS+ at first with probably bad defense would be a much more expensive and probably not significantly better version of Garkokawa.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
blargh
I think I remember feeling exactly the same last offseason. Then my inner child kept thinking the Tooth Fairy would come and bring a hitter before the season started.
This year I’m killing my inner child before Brain has a chance to.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
DINGERS!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
Lopez, Hudson too. Castillo is on the block with no takers, as is Jose Lopez.
Try and come up with an equivalent list of acceptable first basemen.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Is you crazy?
Heard the Mariners are open to moving Figgins to 2b and moving Lopez to 1b. Apparently the kid is not the slickest fielder.
he’s not a very good hitter, either.
Same deal as with most 2B. If he doesn’t have the glove to stay there, he’s not much use to a team.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
He’s got fairly solid UZR though, fwiw.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Really? Was watching MLB Network and they were bashing his defense and mentioned that the Mariners wanted to move him off 2b
2006: +4.7
2007: +1.4
2008: -5.8
2009: +1.2
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
yeah, I’ve watched him play the A’s a couple of times, and thought he looked solid. Still, the point is, with the Franchez firmly entrenched, we’re not in on the cheaper options, and most of the cheaper options can’t hit enough to improve the lineup in another spot.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I would even throw Juan Uribe in there
Adopted father of the prettiest player in the organization, Nestor Rojas.
by stealth snail on Dec 17, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
This
Has been my biggest gripe all offseason. LOL F.Sanchez!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 17, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Punt this year, sign Mauer next year, move him to 1st and be done with it. I have genius!
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
if we know one thing about Brain and Co.
we know that’s not going to happen. Unless he can be paid in garlic fries or bobbleheads or something.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
i agree
and the more I think about the Giants potential roster, the more I think we’re going to suck real bad next year.
worse than last year?
When we almost won 90 games? I disagree, sir. We have not lost any premier players or gotten demonstratably worse at any given position than we were after the trade deadline last season.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
The Giants were lucky to win 88 games last year and without any clear upgrades, I think they’re highly unlikely to repeat it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Our young pitchers are a year older and coming off a successful season
There’s no reason they can’t continue their high level of play at least. And it isn’t like the offense helped any of them much. I see no reason they can’t do it again.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
The Giants as a team had a 123 ERA+ last year. That is stupid high. It is highly likely that they’ll see some level of regression.
I’m not saying they’ll suck, but I will be surprised if they put up a team number over 120 again next year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
They also put up a team OPS+ of 81. Isn’t it easy to believe that we’ll make some kind of upgrade which will bring up up from 20% below average?
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
2005: 86
2006: 90
2007: 82 (including Bonds!)
2008: 83
not really?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
The trend is troubling and I think points to institutionalized incompetence in formulating an offense.
But everyone pretty much accepts the fact that great pitching will regress because 20% above average is just too good while dismissing the notion that our offense will be easy to upgrade because 20% below average is really, really bad and (relatively) easy to improve upon at virtually every spot. I just find that interesting.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
I guess it’s just the fact that the team’s offense has hovered around 15-20% below average since 2005 (with 2006 the obvious exception), while the pitching has been a lot more variable.
Plus, it’s not as though I think the pitching will become average or anything – I would still expect the Giants to be a very good pitching team. But 123 ERA+ is just ridiculous.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
sorry to interrupt the stats
but the Giants seemed to get pretty solid performances from middle relievers and end of the rotation starters, and that’s the kind of thing that could fall apart pretty easily, IMO, and cost those 10 or so games that they won for a change last year.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
we were very lucky last year, especially on offense
The Rockies are probably going to win the division, and some other team, probably the Dodgers, are going to win the WC.
I think the Giants finish second and the Dodgers third. Dodgers lost Wolff and haven’t improved their pitching staff or lineup.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
They still have Kershaw
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Reality check
Likely lineup
LF Velez
CF Rowand
RF Schierholtz
3B Sandoval
SS Renteria
2B Sanchez
1B Ishikawa
C Posey
That’s not really any better overall than the offense they ran out there last year. And they were lucky to score as many runs as they did last year. The pitching was lucky as well. My expectation is 82 wins right now — possibly a couple more thanks to the other teams in the division standing still or getting worse.
maybe we could take garko back huh
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
NO MOLINA
and therefore a better cleanup hitter, so that’s an improvement.
Not enough of one to think they’ll score more, but still.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
79 winz!!!!!
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 17, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Currently leaning toward 80-81 wins myself. As much grief as I give Sabean over his Fragile Fred decision ( and no it is not nearly enough grief yet) he is at least a couple wins better than going into the season with Burriss at 2nd. If the Big Head can get over his VROOM! Fetish a combo of Nate, Bowker, Lewis should be better than 1200 innings of ’09 Winn & VROOM!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
I think there were options in this FA market that could have worked, but unfortunately, the smart and rich teams got to them first.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
At the beginning of the offseason, I said I wanted Mike Cameron, Nick Johnson, a starting pitcher and a guarantee that Posey would be the starting catcher for at least most, if not all of the year. I still think that would have been the best course of action.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m with you on three of the four. I didn’t want Cameron because of his age and injury risk.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
That’s a fair point, but the guy is in pretty good shape for his age and the only big injury he’s had in the last 10 years or so was a freak collision with another outfielder.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
You may be right, but I still have nightmares about Alou. That’s why I’ve never been a big fan of signing free agents who are 34 and older.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Speaking of Moises Alou, man, the fact that he was injured so much made me forget how good he was when he was actually playing. Dude could hit.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
It’s a shame he’ll only be remembered for peeing on his hands.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
…what?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.slate.com/id/2100652/
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Yes he could
That’s why I was excited when the Giants signed him. He could protect Bonds in the lineup.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
The he definitely shouldn’t be in the same outfield as Rowand. GAMERZ!!!!!!!!!
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
In my dream world, we’d also manage to somehow dump Rowand’s contract (Bradley).
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
i still cringe when i watch video of that…and I actually liked Mike Cameron, he’s a pretty good fielder from what I’ve seen but I think he would have had to be in center and I don’t know how comfortable I am thinking of Rowand in the corner
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
The production you’d be getting out of your corner outfield spot.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Nothing. Nothing at all.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
ftfy
what’s wrong with putting rowand and $eleventyjillion in acorner outfield spottrade ?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't Cameron the guy who put Joe Martiniez in the hospital with a skull fracture?
Not that it really has to do with anything if he was… just interesting.
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
I don’t know. Nobody that’s signed, except for Cameron, do I think was a good deal or value. If the Yankees/Johnson rumor is true, that’d be another one. We should beat their offer by going 2 yrs.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
The longer this goes on, the more creativity will be needed. As I’ve hoped for before, for me that would include something like moving Sanchez to SS and trading for Uggla to play 2B so Panda can stay at 3B. From there, we could possibly trade for someone cheap like Overbay or sign someone for relatively cheap like Delgado or Glaus to play 1B if they fall far enough.
This isn’t something I’m excited about, but I’m just trying to work with what’s left to add some pop to the lineup. Our outfield is pretty sad as it stands now, though, and if we’re not going to pay for Holliday or Bay there doesn’t appear to be a whole lot else out there…
I should add that I know they wouldn’t start the season with Renteria on the bench, but I could see them decreasing his playing time quickly if he’s as bad as he was last year.
Olivio & Jacobs. I feel it aproaching like herd of angry mother in laws.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I feel it approaching my colon through my GI tract like gasious loaf.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Available:
Ryan Garko
Josh Phelps
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
Holy Crap, the new toaster just threw my bread into the sink!
That was randomly weird and off-topic.
Edgar Toasteria!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Dec 17, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I lol’d.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
CLANG
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
CRUNCHY DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS
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A go,od toaster is like money down the stretch, nerds!
Well, at least it wasn’t burnt.
And, yeah, I did “try” the one in the sink—WET, but the one on the floor was down for more than a 5-count. Now I have to eat a ham&cheese with untoasted ends.
You value the five-second rule more than you value the “landed in water” rule?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Or was is JaToaster Russell?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
This is what makes MCC special
Total random discussions.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
You never know what you're gonna get from special people
Other than poop in all the wrong places
There’s a Brian Sabean and FA money joke here but I can’t put it together.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
That was randomly weird and off-topic, Bitches.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Well, at least the other NL West teams haven’t gotten crazy better, either.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Dodgers are getting worse with the loss of Wolff and no rotation help in the future.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
They’re supposedly negotiating for Harang.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Ahh! Harang kills us.
I remember watching the series after the All Star Break. It was horrifying to watch
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
last year
Flemming every game: “[crappy end of rotation nobody pitcher] is really mowing them down tonight!”
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
At least our pitchers kill…a lot of other people for us
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
The Padres’ only significant move has been signing Henry Blanco. And the Rockies haven’t done much, either.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
So if no one does anything, maybe we luck into contention again this year.
Although I’ll probably argue that no one had a clearer need for improvement than the Giants AND had reasonable resources to get it done.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
And once again the Brian Sabean is there for the terrible GM being.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
not really
I think the Rockies are going to win it pretty easily.
Fuck the rockies. I hate them almost as much as I do the Dodgers. goddamn.
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
that jessica simpson sure has some big hooters
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
The Simpsons gives me a sad.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
That makes Maggie too old for WalrusMan.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Do people still watch The Simpsons? I haven’t watched an episode in at least 10 years. I just watch Family Guy now.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
I don’t watch either anymore.
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Same.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
The last episode of The Simpsons that I watched was the movie.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
I liked it.
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The only thing I thought sucked about it was that Homer was a real unforgivable asshole. Like, he was completely un-redeemable in that movie.
Outside of that, some of it was fantastic and some of it was really good and some of it was meh. I really like the whole thing.
I just wish they didn’t make Homer such a fuckwad.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
And it had Green Day
FULL CIRCLE, BABY
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I don’t know anyone who still watches it regularly. Still, the show was a pretty big influence on an entire generation.
Also, Family Guy is awful now.
I’m also personally offended by the fact that The Cleveland Show exists. A gimmick from a bad show got a spinoff? Ugh.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
We always watch it, or at least dvr it. When Mr. Merope and I lived ~2500 miles apart he would tape The Simpsons and we’d watch it together over the phone. It’s a sentimental thing for us.
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how lovely [pffft]
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Merope
my hero.
I’m picking up the DVDs periodically, but now I’ve gotten 9 and 10 and am starting to reach the episodes I never watched.
So, I watch them quite a bit but almost never the first run.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
How many characters can you name?
http://www.theanimationblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/simpsonshugeposter1.jpg
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All of them.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
As in, give them names? Probably all of them.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Ken Davidoff of Newsday reports that the Yankees and first baseman Nick Johnson are “wrapping up” a one-year deal worth $5.5 million.
The deal is now near completion, says Davidoff. Pending a physical, Johnson will agree to a one-year deal with the Yankees worth about $5.5MM.
yep. Sabes approach is really working..
Like I said above:
Yep. Sabes is an idiot OR he can’t sell the Giants to any hitter. Free Agent approach is seemingly dead, back to organization destroy trades.
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, it’s as close to a guaranteed trip deep into the playoffs as you can get, what do you expect?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Pending a physical?
Maybe Nick Johnson will go to the DL Early and his price will go down and we’ll sign him anyway-Freddy Sanchez missed 5 games and we gave up Alderson for him.
/Fake optimism
fuckdammit
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
If reached out and pulled, could he get Johnson to come here?
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by Goofus on Dec 17, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Final Sabes offseason deal : Uggla for Bumgardner
and a tooth brush. Just wait.
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Sabes is pretty savvy
He’ll find a way to get some toothpaste in that deal
NOT THE TOOTHBRUSH
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Brilliant!
It’ll be too late before the Marlins realize we don’t have any player by that name!
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This sucks, he was the guy I really wanted.
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by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly.. the only hope the giants have is to sign a team of all pitchers
No hitters want to come here, but pitchers do. Just sign all the pitchers, field with 8 AAAA position players, and watch all the other teams with 10.x ERAs flounder.
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
It really sucks being the Royals.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
Sadly
They’ve won the World Series (although those in St. Louis say it was stolen) since the last time the Giants have.
"meh"
Well,
Doesn’t it go, Cubs, Indians, Giants? If we are going by that criteria there is no other team like this.
"…this thing which tells time."
Is that the new Green Day song?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
At this point, I guess I’m hoping for something like Damon and Delgado.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Bonds as our new 1B at $455K + service time
Just saying..
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Jason Bay and Mark DeRosa would be OK.
$16M/yr & $6M/yr respectively.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 17, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
SO YOU ARE NOT SAYING!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
You just can’t help yourself.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
wow
just when you think we can’t do worse, here we go again.
I like both those guys but sheesh.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
How the fuck do you lose Johnson?
he had all this time to wrap up a deal,. but he’s too damn busy on Mark DeRosa?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
well, after kicking DeRosa's tires.. he noticed a scratch
Due diligence
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
I'm gonna say
that the chance to win a World Series overshadowed playing close to home and for more money.
Sabean is like a kid at a ice cream shop. There’s too many decisions to make and once he finally makes a decision all the good flavors have ran out.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
That’s a big problem. We lost power once at the 31 Flavors I worked at in high school. It was a nightmare. Rotten dairy products are among the grossest things on the planet.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Damon’s price just went down. And Uggla’s went down with the O’s Atkins signing. I think it’s going to turn out OK (not great, but OK).
well, that is Damon at 3 yrs, 13 per?
At least
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Its a Boras client
So, we’ll bid against our selves as the mystery team.
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like he’ll end up with maybe a bit more than Renteria money, which I would be okay with.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
a lot more bang for the buck
although I hate posting that in a thread about Johnson
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think he’d be great, but if he could manage a .350-.360 OBP, that could make a nice difference at the top of the order.
(of course, I’m not sure he’s likely to be much better than, say, oh, Fred Lewis next year, but that ship has sailed.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
yeah
I really think a career ending injury is imminent
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
This
Gives me hope about Uggla
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
Your still optimistic
In theory Sanchez’s price went down with the injury and Garko’s stock went down with…uh no one else wanting him and we still lost 2 top 10 prospects
It was shaping up to be such a nice day. I had my last day of clinic for the semester today. I then had a nice leisurely lunch and finished studying for my test tomorrow. After that I cleaned my apartment and watched some soccer. I was planning on making mac ‘n’ cheese and watching Anchorman before bed. Now, though, I’m fangry at Sabean for being such a worthless GM.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
busts testicle
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Not tonight
Can’t be hungover in the morning. I’ll just add another to the tab for tomorrow evening, though. That flight home no Saturday is going to be a bitch.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
To watch Barry Zito throw it over Mark DeRosa’s head on a pick-off play.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Wow, I am really bitter today. I think I need to stop thinking about this team for a little while.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
In all soberness,
Sabean is either the most incompetent baseball executive on the planet or Johnson hates SF, which seems to not make a lot of sense since he is from Sacramento.
I mean, if you were to ask Sabean back in October, “There will be a 30 year old 1B with respectable defensive abiiities and a .426 OBP available for 1 year 6 million, would you take him?”
If the answer is actually no, he’s incomprehensibly incompetent.
"…this thing which tells time."
Well, I think it’s more than a bit reasonable that on a one year deal for slightly less money, he’d rather play for the team where he’ll have a chance to be surrounded by a ton of amazing hitters.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Even ignoring location, I mean.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Agreed.
It comes down to: the Giants are a longshot to win jack shit next year and beyond, and there are more sure things out there like the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, etc. So, the Giants’ shit cycle will continue until management figures out a way to lure baseball players into their window-less team van.
Or we mangage to kick teh guy out that is hairier than Ron Jeremy and smeels like month old deep frier oil.
/ looks at Sabean
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
he did play there before, no?
I’d like to get paid to go to NY too.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
OR...
He thinks that at that money level its not worth it and to just go with Travis and Bowker.
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Addition by subtraction
Great offense awaits!
So speaks Fearless Leader.
by pittsburghian on Dec 17, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
See that might make some sense if there were any indication that they plan on Bowker getting 400 major league at-bats next season.
Or any indication that Bowker could actually play first base.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Or Johnson feels he’s going to have a great year in that line-up and go back on the market for a 3+ year deal at way more money. That’s my guess.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
You know, your right.
I forgot about championships. We don’t get those here so it never entered into the equation for me. Can’t blame him for wanting to win.
"…this thing which tells time."
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Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m hoping that between Bowker and Posey, we can get some significant offensive upgrades without even having to go outside the system.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
…assuming Melonhead will let them play, of course.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Looks like he’s not going to have any gritty vets as alternatives.
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Aurilia
still available
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Start Bowker in LF and Posey at AAA. Come summer adding Posey to the lineup would be as if Giants traded for a bat
Or play Posey from Opening Day and it’ll be like you had that bat in the line-up all year long.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I agree
that is like the only thing I have right now to help me cope with the offense. Sandoval, Bowkers breakout, Posey being better then bengie
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
there's a theoretical possibility
of a scrapheap breakthrough too; Uribe with just a bit better hitting or some such.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 17, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
and I'm hoping
Santa gives me $80,000 to fix my house. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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JACK CAN HACK
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
It just hit me how much of denial I’m in that Velez is supposedly going to play left and leadoff. I never think about him when I consider various lineups…
So going into 2010, here are the outfields of our toughest competition in the NL…
Philadelphia Phillies: Ibanez, Victorino, Werth
Dodgers: Manny, Kemp, Ethier
Giants: Velez, Rowand, Schierholz
How can a upper-middle-market team look at that an actually think it’s okay? It would be different if we had Jeter, A-Rod and Teixeira in the infield, but all we have is one Panda and two players who were almost close to semi-minor-almost stars three years ago…
Ahh…this is saddening
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
What if Sabean’s master offseason plan is to put Lewis in LF, Bowker in RF, and sign Adrian Beltre to a market-rate contract? That would be amusing.
Thing C
At this point, I would be pretty okay with something like
LF Lewis/Torres
2B Sanchez
1B Sandoval
3B Beltre
RF Bowker
CF Rowand
C Posey
SS Renteria
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Jane’s Addiction
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
when they were 5!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
they enjoy stealing!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
It's nice that you've reached acceptance, but I'm still stuck between anger and bargaining.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
sadness
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
I don't, necessarily
there’s just been more talk of Beltre lately than LaRoche.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah, me too
Sad that our expectations have fallen so far.
/weeps softly
Hector Sanchez: Underrated. Fighting body bias since the 2009 off season. I still love you, son, even if you're fat.
Okay...
I’m firmly in the bargaining stage right now… Sabean, you can have your Uggla and Podsednik, just get Adam Dunn, too.
OT
Does anybody know how to make a really good salt (NaCl) crystal in one day?
I’ll take OK.
Lethargy
It has me
Billy Beane is messing with us
Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports lists the Giants, Red Sox, Twins, Mariners and A’s as possible landing spots for third baseman Adrian Beltre.
you shouldn't poke at retard GMs
especially when they are a burden of the state.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 17, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
No
You said “are” when it should have been “our”
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Beltre
How about graphing Beltre’s stats against his contract/no contract years? The guy performs great every time he’s looking at the end of the gravy train. Other than those years, ziilch. I worked for the Dodgers during a couple of the years he was there. I can tell you their management did not have much respect for his effort.
Uh, except that he was pretty good every year as a Mariner except for in his contract year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Dude, this guy worked for the Dodgers. What do you know?
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I was living in LA during those years. Beltre is a dog.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
With all this talk about Johnson and Uggla
I fully expect Sabean to “suprise” us all with a Pods/Nady/DeRosa signing (addressing LF that is). I don’t have any evidence to support that but it seems like something that would happen while the Marlins and Giants figure out who is going to call who first while the Yankees have their hand on their Johnson.
HEY! INTERNATIONAL TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY IS ON MY BIRTHDAY YOU BIG JERK!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions
matt millen
I’m dyin’ here! didn’t he impugn his character enough in Detroit without further humiliating hisself on national tv? he is not credible.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
is that what they had to put up with all those years, that constant blathering?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
When Millen first appeared on the pre-game show after finally being fired by the Lions I was totally mystified. What kind of TV exec thinks that the guy who “built” the league’s first 0-16 team has any credibility whatsoever to talk about football? It would be like, after a hurricane somewhere, CNN bringing in Mike Brown to explain FEMA’s response.
In fairness, he does have the credential of having played the game well.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
He did a heckuva job on the field.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 18, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Here's hoping that everything so far has been a smokescreen for our impending Holliday/Bay signing
/irrationality.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
oh yeah
you know Sabean. He’s like a chess master…three steps ahead of everyone.
by Into the Void on Dec 17, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
… while heading the opposite way everyone else is!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
And my anger is renewed. TWO MORE YEARS! TWO MORE YEARS!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
going on something like 5 years of shitty offense
i lost count
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 17, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Beltre’s not a great fit for the Giants. I’m not eager to move Sandoval across the diamond, and I’m not sure I can stand adding another hacker to the lineup.
But. The Giants’ lineup at present consists of one great hitter, one very promising rookie, and a whole lot of meh. Tweaks along the lines of DeRosa or Uggla just isn’t going to get it done. They need to add some players with the potential to be great. And Beltre is one of the few players on the market with that potential.
So we lost our 1 year/cheap option in Johnson
Sign Holliday or sign no one. Other potential contracts will hurt more. Should’ve locked up a 1 year/7 mil before the Yankees took interest.
No! Adrian!
I would rather mash my testicles with a blender, causing such agony that I am forced to vomit into a sink, whereas I am tempted to slurp it up, in which case I look up and see my face in a mirror and wish I could get plastic surgery and look like Sean Hannity instead, so I could therefore ramble obnoxiously about a guy who generally hits in the .260s while typically scoring fewer than 80 runs and getting on base (.320s) slightly more often than Kevin Kouzmanoff while being negligibly different than Pedro Feliz with the glove…
… than sign a guy heading into the wrong side of 30 – if we can believe his corrected age – who, even in his youth, has dogged it on many occasion, playing during an era when steroid users have proven to break down in their 30s once off the juice, all while looking at his 2004 season (the one we would actually be paying him based on – and you’re lying if you say Beltre as a Giant wouldn’t make you clamor for something even 80% of 48/121/.334/.388) and recalling that, even if used as a tiebreaker, he was a $#&*$&# Dodger, to some sort of contract that begins even north of $6/year.
I’d much prefer Ryan Garko illogically playing third base left-handed for 1.5 million than Beltre.
That is all.
p.s. run-on sentences that express my utter hatred for a certain player run on
p.p.s. this comment is 100% stupid-“lol”-wordplay free
Ignoring the rest of this...
Could someone tell me why we shouldn’t believe his corrected age? From what I understand, originally, while he was being scouted by the Dodgers, he claimed to be 16 (the lower limit for signing international players), but it was later revealed that he was actually 15 and fudging his age so he could be signed a year earlier. Am I meant to believe that all along he was actually 17 or 18 at the time and for some reason decided to, after the fact, pretend to be a year younger than the signing limit? What the heck would be the point of that, if he had already had some means of pretending to be 16?
I don’t see why we should doubt that Beltre is his listed age. He’s already had it corrected and it makes absolutely no logical sense for him to have fudged it further than he did.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Foreigners lie.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLni3wbndls
F. the Lewis.
by calpolynate on Dec 18, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Tease me, please me!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
According to the ad Thursday night football is twice a week. Once on Thursday and once on Saturday.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
As the cheap ass Giants brassz holds out waiting to shave a fraction of a percentage off of guy’s like NJ & LaRoche, and DeRosa coming down to $6m/yr (obviously Sabes offer did not intice), the Mets interested in bringing Delgado back, ect., they will be forced to inevitably turn to PODS and Blalock. That’s PODS and Blalock. And we will end up reluctantly hoping for Dye. Irony.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 17, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions
I wouldn’t want Beltre either.
I was looking at his stats today. What is up with the year he hit 48 homeruns? He never hit more than 25 except for that one year! Was that the same year that Aurilia hit 38?
ROIDS
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 17, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps trying to tackle the wide receiver rather than jumping around him would have worked better for the Jaguars.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
So, I've been moving out of our apartment all day
We finally made that big blockbuster deal today…right?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Actually, it was a deal at Blockbuster.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Solution to all our problems
Neukom used to work at Microsoft. Have him call up that Bill Gates guy and buy some of the team… he’s worth billions, why not throw a few hundred million at a fun up-and-coming young team?
Then take that nice Gates money and sign Matt Holliday.
And instead of trading for Dan Uggla, just buy him from the Marlins. Offer them 75 million dollars for him or something. They’re cheap, they’ll do it.
Problems solved!
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Heck
why not just buy the yankees from the yankees
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
FUCKING DO SOMETHING
I MEAN, COME THE FUCK ON
FUCK
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 9:29 PM PST reply actions
SHE SAID ALL OF THAT!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yea
subtle, right?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
HUSH
he’s just a boy of 17, his ears are innocent …
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Im with you..
I check MLB trade rumors like every hour, and I think im going to start to go crazy reading that waiting for something Giants related and then almost wanting to cry when I get through all the new stuff
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
A year ago I only saw thousand-comment posts regarding CC Sabathia and his Bay Area ties.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Pie
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
No, but Sabean offered them 21 million dollars for some anyway.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
It had golden crust
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Is anyone else seeing a hacked into page when you try to go to Twitter?
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
I cant even get on Twitter
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I get a black page with red text
“This Site Has Been Hacked By Iranian Cyber Army” no joke
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
My internet is fine
I can get on everything else, only Twitter isnt working, so somethings up
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
scrolled down some more
"U.S.A Think They Controlling And Managing Internet By Their Access , But They Don’t , We Control And Manage Internet By Our Power , So Do Not Try To Stimulation Iranian Peoples To …………..
NOW WHICH COUNTRY IN EMBARGO LIST? IRAN?USA?
WE PUSH THEM IN EMBARGO LIST ;)
Take Care."
Im not joking
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
holy shit
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
can you screen cap?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAH thats awesome. Go them.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
cant get it on either now. guess the twitter people finally shut it all down for now
pretty amusing
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Ya a couple of my friends cant get to it either. hella funny
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
YAY NEW PIC MEME!
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 17, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
and there’s plenty of room for photoshop
by kornstar2004 on Dec 17, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
I hope Grant approves of this one
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
This is funny. lulz.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
perfect
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 17, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
scrolled down some more
“U.S.A Think They Controlling And Managing Internet By Their Access , But They Don’t , We Control And Manage Internet By Our Power , So Do Not Try To Stimulation Iranian Peoples To …………..
NOW WHICH COUNTRY IN EMBARGO LIST? IRAN?USA?
WE PUSH THEM IN EMBARGO LIST ;)
Take Care."
Im not joking
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
if we think in football terms
if we punt 2010, we pin back the chances of sabean and bochy being retained in 2011. Therefore, our best chance to win going forward would be to not sign anyone, let them drink and bork their way out of town while we suck for a year, then work on the much better 2011 FA class while allowing our prospects to get one year better.
However, this will not happen. We will make a another bad signing that kills us in terms of length more than money and it will be Sabes fault.
Good strategy but...
We all know that Sabes will sign Dye and overpay in a trade for a 1b. We will be in a similar situation as we were last trade deadline. Trade 2 of our top 10 prospects for a streaky infielder and a #4 starter. Miss the playoffs, and be in even worse shape come 2011 as far as payroll goes and our minor league system will fall into the 15-20 range.
OT: Chill Out
Well, I’m on the east coast. But you guys will get there in a couple hours.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
OMG my cousin is right.
She had developed a theory that since she rebuffed Sharkey’s advances when she was feted at the Tank on her birthday, the Sharks had refused to win. So tonight she did not watch them. MAGICAL THINKING WORKS.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
I’d rather have something happen than nothing at all, JEEZE, i mean, nothing BIG is going to happen, so i’m not expecting much, it’s like expecting good things out of a warriors season… NOTHING
One thing I would like to see Sabean attempt is working on a three team trade that unloads Aaron Rowand and returns Milton Bradley however Sabes is either lazy or plays it close to the vest
Why not just trade Rentarrhea for Bradley straight up?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
GREAT MOVE, I"LL FUCKING TAKE IT, anything to shake something up, sabean needs to make a bad move and a good move at the same time to make it weird
a bad move and a good move you say?
congratulations! ok! One bad move coming up!
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
at least 12 million reasons why.
The same 12 million reasons why the Cubs would have zero interest in Rowand?
Plus who plays SS
Someone better than Rentarrhea.
You really just asked that question?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Why wouldn't the Cubs do it.
It becomes a salary dump for them.
If he were a FA you wouldn’t want to sign him for 2/12?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn't Zito signed in late December?
Uh oh…
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It was before New Year’s, because it happened the day my family drove down to San Diego to celebrate it. I remember :(
So I guess it was like December 28 or 29.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
One of Grant’s recent posts had a link to the exact day it was announced. I LOL’d at parts of it.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Here it is – Dec 27, 2006
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2006/12/27/155255/51
OHmyGOD!!!!!
Giants sign ZITO.
7 years, $126 mill.
Shit.
I continually ask myself why I am a Giants fan.
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Re: OHmyGOD!!!!!
Yeah, baby! I love it.
by achiappanza on Dec 28, 2006 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I remember where I was when I learned of the news.
I never went from “YAY!” to “You gotta be fucking kidding me” so fast before. Not even in bed.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Personally
My starting point was HUH?!?!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
*to celebrate New Year's, not to celebrate Zito's signing
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I was about to ask.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME
RAJAI DAVIS WAS A GIANT
AND WE LET HIM GET CLAIMED OFF WAIVERS
WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I hate Sabean
Last year Sabean’s strategy was “I’m going to attack the FAs early” and he got burned by Renteria really bad and Howry to a lesser extent. As we all know, the trades did not work out so well. Don’t worry, he signed a 2B to an above market deal who has injury risk and whose OBP is BA driven.
After all of this, much like poop travelling back up the butthole, Sabean gets extended.
So this year (and my point), Sabean does the opposite of last year.
“Well I got burned last year badly attacking the market, so now I’m going to sit on my hands.” Sadly, we are getting burned again. There is no salvation for this man and now it just feels like it’s passive aggressive. All I wanted was competent signings to fill our needs at the right price.
Overall, I look forward to Uribe coming back on a 2 year deal, Dye on a 3 year deal, and trading Sanchez and Tanner for Uggla and Anibal Sanchez.
No?
I dont even know what that is so if i did it’s by accident.
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 18, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Skit on Conan O’Brien (not sure if it’s carried over to the Tonight Show), wherein comedian Robert Smigel had a hand puppet of a dog named Triumph. He would take said dog places and interview people, then insult them in all manners of hilarious ways.
One such field trip was to a Bon Jovi concert in New Jersey, about which he said,
“Bon Jovi returns to New Jersey, much like poop returning up into the butthole.”
Thing C
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugk37TvIR8E
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Good news, Buster Olney says that the Yankees might look at Mark DeRosa once Johnson passes his physical. Since they’d taken one of my favoured options (Johnson) it’s only fair that they take one of the worst as well.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
Bold, would never all happen, but each step on its own is possibly possible
1) Trade Aaron Rowand for Milton Bradley. Give the Cubs $3 million per year for the next three years to cover most of 2012 when Bradley’s salary would’ve been off their books.
2) Assuming the Josh Johnson rumor was actually true, trade Matt Cain for Neftali Feliz and Justin Smoak.
3) Trade prospects for Dan Uggla.
4) Sign Carlos Delgado or trade for Lyle Overbay if not much has to be given up.
5) Sign Erik Bedard to a one or two year deal
6) Sign Orlando Cabrera to a one or two year deal
1) Milton Bradley, CF
2) Freddy Sanchez, 2B
3) Dan Uggla, LF (can shift to infield next year once Renteria is gone)
4) Pablo Sandoval, 3B
5) Delgado/Overbay 1B (with Smoak transitioning into a starting role in 2011)
6) Nate Schierholtz, RF
7) Buster Posey, C
8) Orlando Cabrera, SS
1) Tim Lincecum
2) Jonathan Sanchez
3) Erik Bedard
4) Neftali Feliz
5) Madison Bumgarner
Cain’s salary is around $6 million, so he and Uggla are probably a wash. Maybe Uggla makes $2 million more. Add $1 million net for Bradley. Add $6 million for Delgado or Overbay, maybe $5 million for Bedard, and $4 million for Cabrera. $15 million in additional salaries to make our lineup look like it looks above. I might be low on some of these, though. Hard to tell for someone like Bedard.
So much more fun to think of this than reality…
The Johnson rumor wasn't true, fwiw
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Good to know, I hadn’t heard that. I also just saw on mlbtraderumors that a “Giants person” said there’s “no way” the team trades for Bradley. So take out those two, and realistically, take out Cabrera since Renteria is still here.
Delgado or Overbay could be worth a look, and I think it’s worth considering putting Uggla in LF for a year, especially since I think before 2010 is up Sanchez would shift over to SS and Uggla would be at 2B. That would set us up to sign a big bat in 2011, as the players set to be available then are much more appealing.
What do you guys think of Bedard? He’s had injury and attitude problems, but he’s still extremely effective when he pitches. I guess like everyone it comes down to money. I’d sign him for $5 million or less, or better yet, a deal with incentives. Some sort of option for 2011 for him would be nice too if he can stay healthy…
I like Bedard, but it depends on the price. It would certainly be cool to have three guys with big strikeout stuff on the team (plus Cain, plus Zito).
I don’t really like the idea of trading Uggla and moving him – as others have said, if he’s not playing second, his value drops quite a bit. The bat’s not quite as impressive at first or in left field. If the price is really low, perhaps, but if we’re giving up actual players for him, he should be playing second.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Putting Uggla in LF is more a trick, since I doubt they’d want to hurt Renteria’s feelings right away, but they’d be more likely to remove him if he struggles after a little bit. I’d put Uggla at 2B from the start and put Sanchez at SS. I’m not sure how good Freddy is there, but he typically plays a handful of games there each year…
I Like Bedard
Has the 2nd-highest Runs vs. rep projection on CHONE for free agent pitchers in 18 starts.
I’d take him for up to 1 year, $5 million + incentives.
Lethargy
It has me
That's a lot of work.
I don’t think Sabean puts that much thought/time into these things.
"…this thing which tells time."
Giant related rumor
8:23am: Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News hears that Scott Boras and Johnny Damon talked with the Yankees yesterday and would have considered a two-year deal. The sides weren’t close, so it now appears that Damon’s tenure with the Bombers is over. Damon will have other suitors, but leaving the Yankees behind won’t be easy.
“I know there are some teams interested,” Damon told Feinsand. “But the Yankees are the best organization I’ve been a part of so far in my career.”
One source suggests to Feinsand that Damon could land in San Francisco. Nick Johnson was a rumored Giants target until it became apparent that the Yanks were nearing a deal with him. Johnson will make less than Matsui next year, but Feinsand says the Yanks’ decision to let Matsui walk has more to do with the DH’s knees than his salary demands.
I've softened my stance on Damon
especially when faced with the possibility of Derosa on the Giants. I just want anybody that can make our offense better than this http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=290717123&teams=san-francisco-giants-vs-pittsburgh-pirates
Me too, if we’re talking 2 years 18-20 million, I could live with that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Giants need to get in on this
The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they’re not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they’re once again talking with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley. Three executives say the Cubs could send Bradley to Seattle in exchange for Carlos Silva, who will earn slightly more than Bradley over the course of the next two seasons (Bradley’s under contract for $21MM, Silva for $24MM).
but apparently we're stupid
The Rangers are “not likely” to acquire Bradley and Heyman says the Rays appear to have given up on trading for him. One Giants person says there’s “no way” the team trades for the 31-year-old.
fffffffffffff
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Let's see, how'd it go?
"A deal like that? For a player like that?" … "No. Is that succinct enough?…Smarter people than us have tried that."
Yeah, that ’s what it was.
"…this thing which tells time."
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU AREN'T SMART IN PUBLIC
AND THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU GET A TWO YEAR EXTENSION FOR NOT BEING SMART. YOU FUCK.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Just heard about the trade. A) The Mariners just pwned the Cubs. B) Brian Sabean is stupid.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
We could have unloaded the worst player on the team.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
And gotten back what would be the second best hitter.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
New Sabean quote!
Eeny, meeny, miney, moe…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
NEEDZZ MOAR GARY MATTHEWS JR.
Now that the Dodgers have traded Juan Pierre, the Angels are optimistic about unloading Gary Matthews Jr. and his contract, according to Ed Price of AOL FanHouse. The Angels will have to eat some of the $23MM owed to Matthews if they hope to deal him.
"…this thing which tells time."
Not gamer-y enough!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
GMJ for Rowand!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
I'll pitch in
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
GMJ contract 10:$11M, 11:$12M
Rowand contract 10:$12M, 11:$12M, 12:$12M
Sabean could use that $12M in 2012 better probably on Lincecum
or Delgado
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
But The Giants Lose 4.9 WAR Combined In 2010 and 2011
In 2007 and 2008 Aaron Rowand provided the Giants +3.3 WAR while Gary Matthews Jr provided the Angels -1.6 WAR. I am sorry but i have no interest in paying 4.9 WAR to save $13M.
by giantsrainman on Dec 19, 2009 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
I Was Joking
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Catch a Tiger by the toe
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Shake him and you’ll find a ’ho ?
oooooh different Tiger….nm
by Merope on Dec 18, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. Loved the first few seasons. Season before last was meh. Last season though was good…
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
IS ANYONE ELSE TOTALLY STOKED FOR AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
NOT ESPECIALLY!!!!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I don’t go to many movies. Rude people irritate the hell out of me, and movie theaters seem to be a magnet for rudeys. That and I’m short…. even in an empty theater the 7 foot tall 500 pound dude will sit down right in front of me.
Sorry about that. I actually hate going to movie theaters b/c someone always asks me to slouch.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Mr. Merope and I usually just end up changing seats, he’s much taller…but they don’t sit in front of him….
Tall people don’t sit on front of tall people b/c of leg room (rocking chairs in the local theater)
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 18, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
NERDY! NERDY! NERDY!
or, if you prefer….
PO-TA-TOES!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
ME NEITHER!!!!!!!!!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
I’M PUTTING IT ON MY NETFLIX RIGHT NOW OMG I CAN’T WAIT!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
NOT REALLY BUT I’M GOING TO WATCH IT AND IT WILL PROBABLY BE ENTERTAINING
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Bradley for Silva
Looks like it’s happening. Silva will cost the Cubs $3 million more than Bradley would have over the two years. The Mariners continue to be aggressive and make deals to improve quickly…
Interesting to see if any money changes hands and at a guess i’d imagine some must. If not then it’s a great deal for the Mariners and you’d have to question why the Cubs are making it.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
The Cubs were going to get rid of Bradley no matter what. Maybe they were afraid it would get to the point where no one was interested…
Yeah but Silva is pretty worthless and even costs a few million more. It’s not really any different to just cutting him.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
Silva might be less worthless pitching against NL competition. Yes, I am a true believer in the crappy league.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Turns out the Mariners are sending $9M and so the Cubs will end up saving $6M. Still seems like a very good move for the Mariners.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
Yeah it does. Mariners are going to win the AL West.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Fuck
how fun would it be to have a good GM? They SUCKED last year, and this year they’re going to be at the top of the division. We’ve sucked for 5 years with no hope of ever getting better. The young guys who could help are stranded on the bench.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Could have sent them Rentarrhea.
/Haz Sad.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
That is going to be one very interesting division next year.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Still possible Bradley burns Seattle with “character issues” and, just as likely, the injury bug. If you DH him, what happens to Griffey, Jr.? I like the move, but it is rife with possible negatives.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
What happens to Ken Griffey Jr.?!?! The Mariners have about a thousand more important questions (including: “Coke or Pepsi?” and “Do we need any compact parking spaces in the player parking lot?”) than what to do with Ken Griffey Jr., a player who at this point in his career is being held onto more as a talisman than because of any actual production.
Thing C
They got rid of a horrible player with a horrible contract for a good player with a slightly below average contract. What's notto like?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
He’s a real good artist.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 18, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Notto is Natto’s evil twin.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
OH GOD I"VE BEEN DUPED
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by shanghaijim on Dec 18, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
He wears a hat with an upside down N on it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
They’ve effectively got Bradley on a 2/6 deal so if he burns them it’s hardly the end of the world, they’ve not made a big financial commitment to him.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
Yes, this all makes sense. As I said before, in my affirmation of the deal, I like the move.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
I dont’ think Griffey jr was ever signed in the hope that he would be an every day player. And the alternative was probably eating the rest of Silva’s contract, so at least they’re getting potential value for him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Dammit I wish we had Jack Zdurewhatever as our GM
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Man, no matter who they put behind Ichiro-Figgins-Bradley, that dude is going to drive in a lot of runs.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Could we possible interest them in a Renteria or Rowand to fill that role?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Knives, Forks, Spoons, Napkins
They got it all figured out.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Well, they better bat a good RBI guy there otherwise he won’t.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
The impressive thing is that in Milwaukee, he was known for his ability to assess hitters – see Braun, Fielder, etc – but in a really quick period of time, he’s built the M’s into a solid pitching + defense team (which suits their ballpark, obviously).
Now, I imagine, he can turn his attention to their offense.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
As I recall is plan calls for the mostly pitching & Defense squads to hold the line while they develope hitters. Why can’t our GM have THAT ap on his phone istead of just Tirekicker2KK?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously. He added Milton Bradley, Chone Figgins, and Cliff Lee for about the price of one year of Barry Zito…
I haz a sad.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
I just can't even imagine
where this team would be without Zito, Rowand and Rentarrhea. Over 40 million freed up and a subtraction of the 4th starter, worst hitter, and Mr. Mediocre.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
I might try to pull for them as my AL team this year (this always backfires because I don’t have the attention span for two teams, but hey, I’ll root for them.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Two teaming it is easier when they have common enemies. I find it so easy to root for the Phillies at home games b/c 1/2 of their home games are against teams I hate (Marlins, Mets, Braves, Dodgers, Rockies, Etc)
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
I can never root for NL teams though, we play them too much.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Living in a town with a likable team its hard not to root for them. We only play them 6-7 times a year so its not that hard. Plus I have a in with season ticket holder.
But I will probably drop the Phillies when I move (hopefully to Seattle or Portland) and pick up the Mariners as my other team. but you never know how that works out. I thought I could toot for the Sox while I lived in New England, yea, that didn’t work out so well.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
I’m more into Giants and Sharks than any football, and his thing is the football so it all works out okay.
He’s been rooting for the Bengals since he was 5 or 6, I’ve followed the Raiders since I was 11ish.
is he from Cincy?
Sorry for having missed this detail but I’m always curious about these diehard fans of random teams from other places.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Lookout Landing is a quality blog. That fact alone makes me want the M’s to succeed.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Dammit I wish we had Jack Zdurewhatever and coke, alope, mehoff, son 5, and the beanstalk as our GM
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 18, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
So Johnson slipped out of Sabean’s hands.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
and right when he was getting close to being done
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 18, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
eww, just eww to you both
if there ever was a player with the last name of penis you guys’ heads would explode
i know, i know, twss…ugh
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 18, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
LOL searching “penis” on baseball reference gets you 404’d. Searching anything else will at least bring up a page that says “we found 0 matches for your search query.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe it won't work out with the Yankees
A Johnson release could be rather satisfying
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Non-Roster Invitees
The Stockton Ports just released their list of “non-roster invitees to the A’s Spring Training Camp.” Anyone have anything on the Giants?
(We went to one Ports game last season and ended up on their mailing list. They are also doing a Las Posadas celebration on the 20th if anyone is interested.)
Phillies aren't waiting...
The Phillies picked up Jimmy Rollins’ $8.5MM option for 2011, according to Ed Price of AOL FanHouse. It’s interesting to see the Phillies pick the option up now; they could easily have preserved some flexibility by waiting.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I like Rollins. I just don’t knwo why he is the leadoff hitter.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
even they dont want ass face leading off
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 18, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 18, 2009 10:47 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The Take Care, like it was for the Iranian Cyber Army, is the best part.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 18, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Was there ever any news coverage of that? Or was it just one of those things that if you didn’t experience it first hand [the twitter-hack] it didn’t happen?
I think I might’ve seen something on the 11 o’clock news. The story was also on CNN.com. I try not to follow cable news.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 18, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
/muffled sound
/Dark Sahdows
/NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
"WTF?"
or maybe, “DIVIDENDZZZ!”
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Will DIVIDENZZ!1 become a meme for the 2010 season?
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
lolcomment
from mlbtraderumors:
So San Francisco Giants Fan’s do not be ignorant Jonathan Sanchez even though he has a high ceiling we are giving you guys a 2nd baseman who has never been injured, plays the game hard, plays with his heart on the line, accepts the fact when he does something wrong and works on it to make it right the next time around and most of all he will be a player that you can not get enough of. He will be a fan favorite in no time so please know that a player of the caliber of Dan Uggla will not come cheap and Jonathan Sanchez alone will not fill the bill, though Jonathan Sanchez and a couple prospects can and probably will get a deal done. By the way if Uggs gets traded to you guys please continue to love this guy and continue to say !HIS NAME IS DAN UGGLA!
HE PLAYS THE GAME HARD!
F. the Lewis.
!HES A PLAYER I CANT GET ENOUGH OF HE’S NAMED IS DAN UGGLE!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
HIS NAME IS DAN QUAYLE. AND HE CAN SPELL!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder how many posters here don’t know who Dan Quayle is.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I know that Doug liked to draw pictures of him.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Nobody.
I found out somehow.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Hey, it’s not our fault if groug leaves his journal out in the open in the secret compartment in his sock drawer.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
Really, how does he expect us to stay out of his room when he LOCKS the door!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Patato, patatoe.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
How do you know when your political career is in the toilet? When your picture comes up with a Dan Quayle GIS>
/points to Bobby Jindal
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Is DAN UGGLA housebroken? Does he answer to his name?
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
and most of my adult family
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I’m working on it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Was this jacked from Beinfests email to Sabes?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I hope that post isn’t driveing anywhere anytime soon.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
“though Jonathan Sanchez and a couple prospects can and probably will get a deal done”
I’m going to destroy something, I don’t know what yet, if they trade Dirty for Uggla.
"It's too late now."
Why are you taking what some dumbass fan says seriously?
That trade is not even being considered…
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 18, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
So NJ to the Yanks is official…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
…and, says Haft:
The Giants’ short list of hitters they’d consider acquiring has become shorter. The same might go for their patience.
Publicly, the team’s front office maintains the sensible belief that free agents will become more affordable and trade negotiations might grow in flexibility as the offseason lengthens.
But first baseman Nick Johnson’s tentative agreement with the New York Yankees could signal to the Giants that the time to make their first major player move of the winter has drawn closer. It certainly hasn’t receded.
HALLELUJAH!!!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
PODS IS COMING!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 18, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
ESPN Rumor Central: SF-Marlins talks hit snag
Yes, the Giants have talked to Florida about Dan Uggla, but the deal looks like a major longshot. “It’s not going to go down,” one source familiar with the discussions told ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick.
The first big obstacle is financial. The Giants are hamstrung by the Barry Zito and Aaron Rowand contracts, and Tim Lincecum is in line for a mega-raise after back-to-back Cy Young Awards. Uggla is expected to make in excess of $7 million in 2010, and would be tough for GM Brian Sabean to fit into the budget.
The Giants are also hesitant to move Jonathan Sanchez in an Uggla trade because it would deplete a team strength and leave Lincecum, Matt Cain and Barry Zito as the team’s only proven starters.
San Francisco continues to look at first base options (Lyle Overbay and Adam LaRoche) and third base alternatives (Miguel Tejada and Mark DeRosa), but they’re all too expensive for the Giants’ tastes at the moment. Sabean might just choose to wait and hope somebody falls into his lap for a reasonable price.
The Giants are also looking for a stopgap catcher to give Buster Posey a little more development time. Miguel Olivo and Rod Barajas are two possible fits.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Wow, so, there’s no chance of the Giants improving this offseason.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Oh lord.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Neyer was on KNBR yesterday and said something to the effect that the Giants shouldn’t go all crazy for free agents this year, next years pool is deeper, and thus might be more affordable. Or some such nonsense, I was only half listening.
Why not trade Zito for Uggla and pay for a hefty percentage of Zito’s contract? Oh yeah, nobody wants him.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
I can picture Zeets accepting a deal to Miami.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Tubbs > Crockett
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
This is so true you won’t even believe it.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Tubbs’ Daytona had a very understated coolness about it, unlike Crockett’s billboard for anatomical compensation.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
oh you're talking about a car
At first I was like WTF
But then, I lol’d
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
wait
does this have something to do with Nash Bridges?
Do tell!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, so, there’s no chance of the Giants improving this offseason.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Lincecain window closing.
otherwise it’s a fine strategy.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
He just named every FA in that post.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
$7 million is too much salary to take on?
Off-season over
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Yep
Cheap bastards.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Commitment to winning “the Giants way”
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
DIVIDENDZZZ!!
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Can someone explain
why we are courting old fat catchers when we have a potential rookie of the year candidate who will make 400K and we can’t apparently afford any offensive upgrades?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody wants to play for the Giants and if they do, they want more money than they’re worth and even more than the Giants are willing to overpay.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Olivo & Jacobs.
/ can’t decide to hold aching gut or head.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Always choose head.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 18, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
win
one of your finer catches in recent weeks.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 18, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
I would love another 6+ months of Garkawa at this point. Yes sir.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
They should really see about re-signing him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
For more than he would have earned via arbitration!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 18, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Is that a CBA thing or are you just sayin' as they say.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Barry Zito, Aaron Rowand and Edgar Renteria were not too expensive for the Giants’ tastes. Therefore, the Giants have bad taste buds.
How did Sabean get re-upped?
Zito, Roberts, Rowand, Rentarrhea. How does he have a job?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
He must have currently unpublished Pic’s. That is the easiest explaination.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
That and DIVIDENDZZZ as we discussed earlier this week.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
It's like he was trying to slowly destroy the team.
I think last years overachievment in the WINZZZ column was the worst thing to happen to this organization since BLB took his last swing.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 18, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
There is something to this.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Your Yankees 2014 All-Star Representatives
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 20, 2009 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
Milton Bradley is going to Seattle
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Duanel Jones is an awesome name.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
It will be the best name on the Giants when he’s starting after Lincecum’s gone.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
If not signing meh FA means we sign more prospects I’m all for it.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants signed everybody.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
The Mariners have a new left fielder, so we can safely assume they won’t be committing tens of millions to Jason Bay. As Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post notes on his Twitter account, Bay’s options are disappearing. Hubbuch says resolution with the Mets “should be coming soon.” They’re currently waiting to hear back from Bay on their offer.
MLBTR comments now with reply function, allows for a more continuous flow of LOL
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 PM PST reply actions
welcome to the giants Jemaine Dye
LOL playoffs
Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.
The playoffs, like veteran players past their prime,
Will b something we admire from afar.
by Every6thDay on Dec 18, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Giants add another Hacker!
Righty Eric Hacker, 27 in March, signed with the Giants. This year at various Double and Triple A stops he compiled a 4.45 ERA, 6.2 K/9, and 3.5 BB/9 in 147.6 innings. The Pirates acquired Hacker in May after the Yankees designated him for assignment.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
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