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Either Sabean is demonstrating atypical shrewdness to pressure the Marlins to take less for Uggla or (in the more likely scenario) Beltre will quickly surpass Renteria and Zito for biggest albatross of a contract on the roster.

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Beltre is looking for a four-year deal worth at least $40 million.

The Giants are also pursuing Mark DeRosa as an everyday third baseman.

both of these make me really uncomfortable.

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by j14 on Dec 17, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

/jabs plastic spoon into eye

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 17, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: DeRosa

read he has lowered his asking price down to 3yrs/$18M. He is getting closer to being reasonable.

by wilriv21 on Dec 17, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I could see Sabes being to forced to pick one and he can’t decide so he signs both of them

by Gobroks on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

From MLBTR comments on Uggla. Notice LF:

Giants:
Trade for Uggla
Sign Beltre

CF Rowand
LF Sanchez
1B Sandoval
3B Beltre
2B Uggla
C Posey
RF Velez
SS Renteria

Get to the playoffs with that lineup. Myabe trade for a bigger bat at the deadline. Once your in the playoffs, the pitching will destroy everyone else.

And this one is in refrence to BP 2008 Top prospects…


Goldstein needs to update that list…
Angel lost his right to be ranked after committing murder.
Alderson is not on the team anymore.
Bumgarner and Posey are 1 & 2.

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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 9:35 AM PST reply actions  

Once my what in the playoffs?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

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by Natto on Dec 17, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by djp4cal on Dec 17, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

supposedly derosa has dropped his asking price to 3 years and 18 million…still too much imho

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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 17, 2009 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

I might go 2/$12mil with an option year.

I just clicked on that, and it said the Giants’ have upped their offer to Nick Johnson to 5.5 to 6 mil for a one year deal. Interesting.

by tyrannoman on Dec 17, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see the prob with offering him a 2 year deal. He wouldn’t be blocking anyone.

Sorry Ishi.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 17, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Yanks are apparently a serious contender for Nick Johnson. That almost certainly prices him out of the Giants interest range because obviously we’d have to beat the Yanks offer by enough to make him forego the automatic post-season appearance and the all the rest of it.

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by Roger on Dec 17, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Even if we offer more money in a one year deal we also have to beat:

- No DH (he would stay healthier)
- No protection in the batting order
- No gimme HR

All of those are thing that will prove his value and allow a team to offer a 2-3 yr contract next off season.

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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I fail to see how Derosa improves the team at all. He’s not good defensively (probably equivalent to Uggla), and I think it’s even money whether he outhits Travis Ishikawa next year, never mind at the end of a three-year deal when he’ll be 37. On a relatively cheap (<=$5M) one-year deal to fill the Uribe supersub role (or hopefully move Renteria to the bench by putting Sanchez at SS), fine. Anything more, no. DNW.

by taliesin on Dec 17, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Non-tendering Garko because you didn’t want to spend $2-3M and then spending $12-18M on DeRosa (who isn’t an upgrade over him and is possibly worse) would really be a shockingly bad decision.

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by GiantFan on Dec 18, 2009 6:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I have it on good authority ...

I happen to know for a fact that Sabean LOOOOOOOVES Beltre.

LOVES LOVES LURVES him.

And I heard this straight from Larry Baer’s mouth. I had some awesome seats at a game last year, three rows from home plate and right in front of Peter Magowan. Baer came over to visit him for a couple of innings, him and Magowan’s guest—some old dude named Cepeda.

And Larry couldn’t be bothered to keep his voice down, so I got to hear about Sabean’s mancrush. I wish he spilled some more, but that was the only juicy stuff I heard.

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by Flapjacks McGurty on Dec 17, 2009 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

“Sabean’s mancrush”, “Larry Baer’s mouth”, and “juicy stuff” all appear in this comment, and it doesn’t appear to be creepy slash.

I’m confused.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Needs more Hawt bothain action & Demon Porn!

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 17, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Third time today my google search has directed me to MCC.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Many Bothans died to bring us this information.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel the same way about Beltre that I do about all talented free agents...

It’d be nice to have him. We probably shouldn’t overpay though.

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by GiantPain on Dec 17, 2009 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

does it count if i have given up on beltre?
i smell glaus in here

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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 17, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

naw that is just that approach of Jacobs & Olivio.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 17, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I was really against Beltre, but if it’s a 3-year deal, I am almost coming around to it.

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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

I really wanted Beltre here a year ago. Then he performed so bad last year, so my crushes moved elsewhere. But 4 years? And you add…
1. Pablito plays third pretty well, positional adjustment, etc.
2. shoulders sometimes heal after surgery and sometimes not;
3. folks say Beltre was good in the steroid years and hasn’t had much power since

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by foothillsfan on Dec 17, 2009 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

I feel similarly about Beltre to Uggla. He’s a good player, and a year ago I thought he was a match. Now, I’d rather get a first baseman.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Dec 17, 2009 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

My first thought: Hm, 4/$40 isn’t that bad…

My second thought: Dear Lord – am I really that desperate for my team to make a move and sign a hitter?

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by tedfordfan on Dec 17, 2009 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

Take away 2004 and then look at his career stats.

I’d say he’s an average to slightly better than average 3B. Yes, the defense would be great but Pablo moves to 1B. And at 4/$40 mil……………..it would be another bad contract. We’d also be crossing our fingers that last year was an anamoly because of the injuries and not the beginning of a career tailspin.

I’d rather take a chance on a guy like Glaus with a minimal incentive based deal than Beltre. I say pass……..

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by dave mustaine on Dec 18, 2009 12:15 AM PST reply actions  

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