Revisiting the Dan Uggla Idea
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 16, 2009 2:24 PM PST
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PrintFrom the Miami Herald:
During the Marlins’ Dan Uggla trade talks with San Francisco, Giants players who were discussed include right-hander Jonathan Sanchez (8-12, 4.24 ERA; no-hitter last season); lefty Clayton Tanner (a top minor-league pitcher) and a midlevel pitching prospect.
I'm sure the weather was discussed too. Uggla for midwestern cold front! Which is to say, the Giants aren't giving up Sanchez, and the Marlins don't want an arbitration case in return for a player they're trading because he makes too much in arbitration.
When I cringed at the inclusion of Tanner -- a C+ prospect, at best -- it made me ask myself what I would be willing to include for two years of a fairly pricey Dan Uggla. If we go by the newest update of the Community Prospect List, here would be my response if a specific prospect were traded:
- Buster Posey - stab an orphan
- Madison Bumgarner - stab an orphan
- Thomas Neal - stab an orphan
- Zack Wheeler - n/a (not eligible to trade for a few months)
- Roger Kieschnick - give an orphan a terribly violent wedgie
- Tommy Joseph - n/a (not eligible to trade for a few months)
- Brandon Crawford - give an orphan a terribly violent wedgie
- Rafael Rodriguez - stab an orphan
- Dan Runzler - grit my teeth and curse under my breath until the Stockholm Syndrome kicks in, and I come around on the trade
- Nick Noonan - give an orphan a terribly violent wedgie
- Conor Gillaspie - smile and wait for them sweet, sweet Uggla dingerz
- Ehire Adrianza - give an orphan a terribly violent wedgie
- Francisco Peguero - shrug my shoulders and hope he doesn't make the Giants look stupid
So if I'm loathe to trade hardly any of my top dozen prospects, do I really want Uggla? I thought I did. And while I'm sure that Uggla will cost the Marlins 25% of their expected payroll, they also know they have a better-than-average shot at being a contender. I don't think they'll just dump Uggla just to dump him. They're not going to take Merkin Valdez and a bunch of bills with Jefferson Davis on them.
I guess I don't want Uggla after all. At least, I don't want him unless the cost to get him is much lower than I'm expecting.
Open What Would You Give For Uggla/Let's Have a New Thread to Talk About Some Inane Off-Topic Topic Thread.
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ISWYDT, Grant Frisbee
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Even the Marlins know Sabean is a sucker who trades Tim Alderson for Freddy Sanchez.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
I'm not
personally
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Neither am I.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
I am not either. I am okay with losing Tanner, though.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Position of strength, one year of success to trust in, pitched as many innings with the Giants as Hinshaw did last year and with spotty control as well.
Lethargy
It has me
Not enough known about Runzler, is why I would be willing to trade him.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Exactly. He wasn’t much of a prospect last year, had a beast year as a relief pitcher (SSS), and could easily regress. Frankly, I was surprised he was even in the top 10 for BA.
Lethargy
It has me
He’s got filthy stuff.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So he’s the RP version of Jonathan Sanchez; in a few years, he’ll be closing for the Fish, Uggla will be a FA, the Giants will have lost in the NLDS in 2011 after barely missing the playoffs in 2010, and we’ll be standing around wondering what went wrong and yelling about how Wilson’s hitting free agency as well and it’d be nice to have a young, cheap closer waiting in the wings.
How many young, cheap closers have waited in the wings in recent years?
Aardsma, Accardo, Valdez, anyone remember Munter? There’s a new one every season, that’s how relievers work.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I don't think anyone ever considered Munter to be a closer
At least, I hope no one did.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I remembered a very polemic debate.
The peripherals people thought he stunk. The people who wanted to believe in high groundball rates formed a sort of Munter cult. Also, there were the silent majority who didn’t care.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I still wish we had Aardsma
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
I wish we had Hawkins
Aardsma kind of stunk for most of the last 5 seasons. And by “kind of” I mean “like Bengie Molina’s lucky unwashable jockstrap.”
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
LOL MUNTER
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
First of all, bad comp. Sanchez has over 60 starts and 5.4 WAR to his name. Runzler has fewer than 10 innings of work at the big league level and fewer than 20 innings total above high-A.
Second of all, describing low-probability extreme scenarios does little to dispute a point and brings nothing to the table. I could respond that in a few years, Runzler will be out of baseball, Uggla will have led us to 4 World Series titles, and Sergio Romo will be our All-Star closer after Wilson is traded away for a good haul in prospects and my comment would be just as accurate as yours.
But such a conversation wouldn’t accomplish much, would it?
Lethargy
It has me
this
the fuck out of this
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
keep Runzler
trade Wilson for someone better than Uggla and one or more throw-ins.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Know (or propose) of anyone in particular who’d be available? It’s pretty easy to say “trade so and so for someone better” but I’m not sure of many better players available for a closer.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 16, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Gonzalez
no interdivision trades blah blah blah
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
closers are not that valuable
padres have a good one they’d like to sell you already.
great
add some of these orphanage folks.
I don’t really think the Pods would send him here, and I realize they need a closer about as much as the Giants do.
My point is that those that are extremely prospect-greedy might consider who on the ML roster is both valuable and replaceable, especially on a team with no offense. Unless we’re all just sfgate posters trying to trade Frandsen and Rohlinger for Robinson Cano.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
They already have Heath Bell. They are a horrible team, another closer is not something they’ll be in the market for. Additionally, talk has the Red Sox sending at least Clay Bucholtz and Jacoby Ellsbury to the Padres for Gonzalez. Which means we’d have to include at least one of Buster or MadBum. There is no reason for the Padres to trade Gonzalez without a great return because of his contract situation.
No offense, but if you think Wilson is the centerpiece of a Adrian Gonzalez deal then you are an sfgate poster.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 16, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Any updates on young Ong-hell?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Look at what they did… to my beautiful boy…
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
win
I think the answer is somebody from the ML roster (or recently thereon) and a non-wedgie.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a very un-Marlins-like move
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
I am mildly biased against trading Tanner.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions
I wouldn’t mind one of Peguero, Gillaspie or noonan being involved. To be frank.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:32 PM PST reply actions
Peguero- hmm, I’m not high on him, but the scouts are and he plays CF. Lets give him a couple more years and see if he can increase his trade value before we trade him.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
No
You can’t be Frank!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
C'mon Lars
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
No!
No Frank!. You can be Steve.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Fine
You can has Tomko
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
I’m Steve! He can be Carl
Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.
by theghostofjasonellison on Dec 16, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
How about Frink?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I’m Earnest.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
i’d agree with the first two but i’m kind of emotionally attached to noonan
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Did you makeout?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
I saw Noonan round third base once
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
slut
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
I’d be more annoyed about trading Runzler than one of those guys, and while I really like Runzler, I’m not entirely opposed to trading him. Peguero, Gillaspie, and Noonan have little value right now.
I don’t mind trading Tanner. And I would love to sell high on Peguero.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
this
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
same
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Freddy.
Because my head hurts trying to figure out where in the IF to put Uggla.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I’m sure this has been asked and answered but has Uggla ever played 3B?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
UGGLA CAN DO ANYTHING
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
You know who played 3B?
Nate
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
DTFY
NO ONE PUTS UGGLA IN THE CORNER OUTFIELD!!!!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
I think moving Sanchez to 3B (or SS) is the better answer.
Around the horn:
3B: Pablo
SS: Sanchez
2B: Ugla
1B: Johnson
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
that would imply that renteria is benched and that’s probably not going to happen
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
never going to happen.
/fixed
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
youre right cause hes a good soldier who plays through his injuries
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
I suppose I wouldnt burn down the city if Runzler was traded for Uggla
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
I suppose I wouldn’t stab an orphan or give a wedgie if we gave away Tanner
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn’t fly into uncontrolled rage like I did during this year’s deadline deals if this went down, but I’d be disappointed.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Ever seen Death Wish?
That would be my reaction to a Runzler trade.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
Fill a sock with pennies kind of thing?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I was just getting comfy in the old thread.
I would be ok with Tanner and Mystery Meat.
Sanchez for all his ups and downs, he is still a Giant that I just enjoy watching and rooting for. Plus he threw a no hitter on my birthday.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
That's awesome.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Same Birthday? AWK-WARD
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Im not getting BOTH of you a gift
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
Here, just sign this card. We can say it is from both of us and save money, while at the same time making them regret inviting us
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
you know what happens on my birthday? LA-SF
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Scottsdale style!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Born on my birthday:
Maurice AND Barry Gibb. BURN!
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
James Van Der Beek, Freddie Prinze, Cheryl “Salt” James (Salt-N-Pepa) Jim Rice
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Juan Encarnacion, Hines Ward
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 7:52 AM PST up reply actions
I share a birthday with Eva Green. Now I’ll have an excellent icebreaker if I ever meet her. Also Tim WOrrell.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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pfft… your hundreds of miles away from Eva Green. I’m like an hour away from Jessica Simpson. I SO have a better shot at my birthday girl.
"It's too late now."
But Natto could show her his ‘etchings’.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Nolan Ryan
Jackie Robinson
Ernie Banks
and,,,, Jean Simmons & Justin Timberlake LOL
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
I share a birthday with James Brown and Igor Stravinsky. Suck it, everyone not born June 17th!
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Natasha Bedingfield, Shawn Kemp, Harold Reynolds. Meh
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
The real Rainman.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Harold Reynolds
birthday hugs?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
vroooooom
I share my birthday with none other then Speedy McFuckup himself Eugenio Velez
by NateEveryday on Dec 16, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
You win
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Sure that’s his real birthday?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Date is probably correct. It’s the year you need to watch out for.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Joaquin Phoenix, Julia Roberts, Daphne Zuniga, Bill Gates, Charlie Daniels and Jonas Salk!
Almost exclusively awesome people, except for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 16, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
The Good: John Cho, Tupac, Daniel Bruhl
The Bad: Enoch Powell, Jonathan Broxton, Charlie Dominici (ex-dream theater singer, FFFFUUU), Diana DeGarmo (forgotten American Idol finalist)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Congrats, jponry
That’s the first time in the history of the Internets that Enoch Powell and Jonathan Broxton have ever been mentioned in the same sentence.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
Broxton is worse
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I'll take Osama
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I don’t really see much of a difference.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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YOUSTOLE MY BIRTHDAY!!!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Add you to the cool list. Johnny Disaster goes next Ahmadinejad.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 17, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
Imadinthehead.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
sad thing is
assuming thats his real birthday, Bochy still thinks he’s some young kid just coming up, when he’s going to be fucking 28 next year
by NateEveryday on Dec 16, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
On Mine...
Good: Thurgood Marshall, Hans Albrecht Bethe, Richard Petty
Bad: Jose Canseco, Lindsey Lohan
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
In ascending order of coolness
Dennis Miller, Roseanne, the Earl of Sandwich, Charles Bronson
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
incorrect
Charles Bronson may be cool, but he’s no Earl of Sandwich.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
HE IS THE OMEGA MAN!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
I suggest you watch ‘Hard Times’ and revise your opinion.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions
My lunch is not named after Charles Bronson.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
You named tour lunch Earl?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not a good typer.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
Prepare to be jealous.
Luke Wilson. Cecil Fielder?! Rick Mahorn. Ethan Cohen. Leonard Cohen. Chuck Jones!! uh, Nicole Richie. A bunch of scientists and shit…
AND BILL MURRAY! I win!
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
Linus Pauling
Mario Andretti
Tommy Tune
Brian Jones
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Syd Barrett
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I’ve got a bike, you can ride it if you like…
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 16, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
LOSER!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I’m exactly 5 years older than Tim Lincecum, and exactly 30 years younger than Dusty Baker.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
for me (april 22):
Valdimir Lennin
Betty Page
Jack Nicholson
Charles Mingus
Peter Frampton
Robert Oppenheimer
Only baseballer I can find is Andruw Jones
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
honkballer
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I win
Jerry Seinfeld
Daniel Day-Lewis
Dale Earnhardt Sr.
Michelle Pfeiffer
Master P
Hef’s newest girlfriend
Johnny Miller
the guy who played Furio on Sopranos
Andre Agassi
Uma Thurman
Duke Ellington
Oh, and the LA Riots (and thus a Sublime song with my birthday in the title)
Thing A
I actually was just about to post that I come in 2nd to whoever shares with BLB, and I hadn’t seen your post yet
Thing A
I also have JLo and Karl Malone.
Actually I think Karl Malone is working against me.
"…this thing which tells time."
I always get SD-SF. I was born on Mexican Independence Day.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
And September 16 is lousy for celebrity birthdays
Alexis Bleidel
David Copperfield
Marc Anthony
Amy Poehler (GO BOSTON COLLEGE!)
Robin Yount
and
Orel fucking Hersheiser. Goddamnit.
I do get BB King and Mickey Rourke, though.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Also, who the hell is Madeline Zima? We were born on the exact same day and I’m not yet comfortable with that.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The youngest daughter on “The Nanny”, now the creepy lesbian love interest of the cheerleader on “Heroes”.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 17, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
me
Mary, Queen of Scots (and her consort)
Madam Toussaud
Eli Wallach
Ted Knight
Noam Chomsky
Johnny Bench
Tom Waits
Larry Bird
Tino Martinez
Terrell Owens
It’s funny how 90% of the entries are entertainers (athletes, actors, composers)
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
-------
PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Same B-day:
The Rock, Kyle Busch, Felix jose
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
I have the same birthday as Didier Drogba, possibly my least favorite soccer player. That’s the only athlete/celebrity I know of who shares my birthday
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Lets see
King Henry III (France)
Ferry Porsche
Duke Snider
Adam West
Joe Morgan!
Lol Creme?
Charlie Reliford
Ken Rosenthal
Ashot Nadanian (Armenian Chess Player)
Jimmy Fallon
Raja Bell
OMG NICK JOHNSON WE HAVE TO SIGN HIM!!!!!!
and apparently it is International Talk like a Pirate Day
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Randy Johnson was scheduled to pitch on my birthday this year but it rained in DC. But we went to McCovey’s and got free food during the rainout, so I call that a win.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
That was supposed to be #300 right? I was going to go to that game. Stupid rain!
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
yep
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
I was there
Sitting in nationals stadium for like 3 hours getting rained on.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I had arranged to leave work early to go to the game and got some friends to do the same, but after looking at the weather report we decided not to go. I only got to see one Giants game last season, and it was the one where Hamels threw a two-hit CGSO in Philadelphia. And after one of those two hits, the runner got picked off of first.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
I saw Pedro strike out 11 opposing Tim.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
sadly, and to my eternal shame
I share a birthday with Tommy LaSorda and both Bilbo and Frodo Baggins.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Let's play "Guess My Birthday" (better known as "Who's the Fastest Googler")
Ernest Borgnine, Oral Roberts, Neil Diamond, John Belushi, Mary Lou Retton, Mischa Barton
oh, but there's better stuff there too
the Hackman! (Jeff Leonard)
Nick Cave
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
i share my birthday with the president...
OF THE UNITED STATES!
and billy bob thorton.
Dodgers fans eat their young.
Also:
Louis Vuitton,
Louis Armstrong,
Maurice “The Rocket” Richard,
Roger Clemens,
Jeff Gordon,
and Me
by WilliamVanLaunchingpad on Dec 16, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Uhhhmmmm...
…Branch Rickey.
But hey! Also…
David Wright.
Peter Criss.
Mike Watt.
Alan Parsons.
John Spencer
(Not the Blues Explosion, but Martin Sheen’s West Wing Chief of Staff)
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 17, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
Casey at the Bat was published in the SF Examiner on my birthday.
Or, I share a birthday with Carl Everett.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
BLB, JLo, Karl Malone.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, then is your eleventy-first birthday coming up soon?
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Looks more like high school GPA
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
I've got the greatest birthday of all time.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Careful! Sabean might read this as Including
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
inflamable means flamable?
what a country
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
That Said, I Think He Can Be Had For Less
Say one of these and one of our pre arb lefty hitting outfielders or middle infielders on the 40 man roster.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
BOCOCK AND GILLASPIE IT IS.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I thought they wanted pitching though
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Actually Their MLB Pitching Staff Is Both Strong And Deep
The need to replace the position players they have already lost and/or want to move to avoid arbitration.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Kieschnick or Crawford or Runzler can go, no problem. Adrianza I’d probably be okay with. Noonan I wouldn’t trade.
But no matter what the cost is, I’ll be upset if they trade for Uggla and then Nick Johnson signs somewhere for anything less than two years/$16 million.
I’m not okay with giving away Crawford that easily
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
You men Bar Arm
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not okay with giving up Kieschnick that easily, either. Selling high on Adrianza would be acceptable. Noonan, I’m on the fence.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Totally. Maybe this is because Noonan is generally thought of as a lesser prospect?
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Here's why
I like Crawford as MIF prospect more than Noonan because he has more success at San Jose and Conn.
I’m really high on Kieschnick (probably more than most people) and think he can be a very good power hitter. The K’s don’t scare me.
I like Noonan but I wouldn’t go into an Alderson-esque rage if he is traded.
But Merkin throws heat!
He’s youngish and throws strikish, perfect for the Fish. Oh plus Frandsen too — future all star 2nd baseman extraordinaire.
Win the inning.
LOL
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Bocock and Jackson Williams. Try to get them to believe they were high draft picks in the ’08 draft!
Fish: We want Clayton Tanner and another Prospect
Sabean: Why don’t you take this here Jesse Foppert? 1st round pick!
I wish…….
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Getting Uggla
Means that Pablo almost definitely will never 3B again.
If Sandoval really returns slimmer from Fat Camp, he’s got a solid chance to be an average-or-better 3B. Giving up that chance, plus the prospects…I don’t know, both Laroche and Johnson would have to sign crazy contracts for the trade to be worth it.
I was promised lasagna.
I’m sure Pablo could go back to 3rd if the Giants needed him to.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Uggla would be here for at least two years, probably more. Players rarely move up the defensive spectrum, especially after a few years of not playing the position.
I was promised lasagna.
PABLO REALLY CAN DO ANYTHING!
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
There is still a decent demand for 1B/DH types out there though – Seattle, Boston (if they can’t swing a deal for Gonzalez), Yankees, etc so it may just be that the Giants will miss out on those two.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Look, Uggla got $5.5M in his first year of arbitration. He’s getting $16 over the next two years, easily. How much more than that could Johnson or Laroche possibly make, if at all?
I was promised lasagna.
It’s not a question of being willing to pay those players the dollars, it’s a question of those players possibly choosing to go somewhere else and the Giants being left without those options.
If you’re Nick Johnson, would you rather DH for the Yankees or play first for the Giants?
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Because I say so, dammit!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
so
you’re just sayin’?
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"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, but I’m not saying!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
What is he saving?
Dan Uggla at Amazon
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by victor frankenstein on Dec 17, 2009 7:01 AM PST up reply actions
The Yankees might not be willing to offer more than a year with Montero knocking on the door, but he might be able to get similar years/dollars from the Ms or Red Sox.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather have Johnson than Uggla. But I’m getting nervous by the level of attention he’s getting from teams like the Sox and Yankees.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yanks want, Yanks have.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
hahahahahaha
that’s funny
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Like, what, 2 years/20 million?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Is he?
in 05-06, he was worth 9.9 WAR, but the last two years, it’s 3.4 (versus 7.6 the last two years for Uggla.)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I don’t why we should use WAR, just confuses things.
We’re basically signing Uggla to play 1B. Just look at his hitting stats. He’s not better than LaRoche, or Glaus, or Delgado – barley even better than Garko!
I was promised lasagna.
it's about time
centerfielders are so 2007
by NateEveryday on Dec 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Considering age and injuries, I think it’s a stretch to say he and Delgado/Glaus are on the same level.
I mean, I’m not disputing any of what you’re saying! I’m just saying that it’s fairly possible we’re going to miss out on Johnson/LaRoche.
And I’m still wondering what ever happened to Russell Branyan!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Last I heard he realy wants more than a 1 year contract and The M’s were still talking with him. That was few weeks ago though so things may have changed when i was not looking.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Not fragile enough for Sabe’s blood.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Branyan is basically a left handed version of Uggla
wouldn’t be mad at all if the Giants got him
With LaRoche, Johnson, Glaus, Delgado, Branyon, and I guess DeRosa, there really is no reason to overpay for Uggla. I’ve always liked him so I would welcome a trade, but the price can’t be to high. There’s just to many similar players readily available.
Maybe Sabean is wising up and is actually waiting for them to lower their asking price, at least thats what I’m hoping.
by NateEveryday on Dec 16, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
The More It Would Take Might Be Three Or Four Years
If that is the case Uggla at the right trade cost would be the better option.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
It always was.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t see anyone giving a three-year deal to Nick Johnson. Even I wouldn’t give him a three-year deal.
But if someone does, you turn to Delgado or Glaus … Uggla just isn’t significantly better than those guys.
Saying It Would Take This To Top A two Year Deal From The Yankees
No way the Giants get him for just a few dollars more then a Yankee offer. It would take a year more to get him against a Yankee offer.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Why not Uggla to first?
At this point Sandoval’s got almost as much experience at third as Uggla (more if you don’t count the minors). Uggla’s listed as 5’ 11" which is the same as Panda. Seems like it makes more sense to slide him over to first instead of switching two players to unfamiliar positions.
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I mean I don't get it
If we’re signing Uggla to play 1B, how is he in any way better than LaRoche? Right now LaRoche is supposedly asking for $30M over three years, and people are laughing. He’ll almost definitely take 3 years/$8M a year if we offer, or something like that. That’s not more than Uggla is going to get, probably less. So even if they were free agents, there wouldn’t be much reason to sign Uggla. Add the fact that he’ll actually cost prospects, and I don’t see why we should even consider it.
I was promised lasagna.
I take a LaRoche for a bit less.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I’d rather have Uggla
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Because.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Got your back.
All things being equal, I’d rather have Uggla than LaRoche because Uggla can take over at second when Sanchez breaks down again. But I still wouldn’t trade a decent prospect for him.
Also, LaRoche is left-handed, and other than that Bonds guy, I think the Phone suppresses LHH homeruns. Of course I haven’t looked this up, so I could be wrong – just my observation.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
The more I think about it, the more I like the Troy Glaus idea. What kind of injury did he have – anything that would make his power disappear?
I was promised lasagna.
Shoulder
can be dicey.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
too much 2002
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Not by choice. And it wasn’t pretty at all.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
2002 HAPPENED PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BE HAPPY YOU GOT TO SEE YOUR TEAM IN THE WS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TEXAS, CINCY, SEATTLE, WASHINGTON/MONTREAL, AND CUBS WOULD GLADLY TRADE PLACES WITH US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
/rant over
//the 2002 never happened and NO 2002 ANGELS is really startying to piss me off
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
He’s not saying 2002 didn’t happen, he’s saying he would have a hard time rooting for Glaus because of what did happen in 2002.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I wouldn’t be able to root for Glaus.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
The LHH thing is the biggest objection in my mind. Johnson lost his HR power a few years ago, so it’s not a huge deal for him (in fact, maybe the expansive RF turns some of those flyballs into doubles?). And given that Uggla and LaRoche provide just about the same hitting (career wOBA of .354 and .353 respectively), Uggla’s positional versatility makes him more valuable. I’d give up a few meh prospects, even if he costs the same, to have that utility and right-handedness.
I’ve always been opposed to NJ and LOLF.Sanchez as a core of a team concurently. Especially with Rent in there. My god unless you’re trying to set most days on the DL record.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Sandoval moves to first because Sandoval is the guy who moves to first. Haven’t you been paying attention?
Well, I guess if he gets the lion’s share of playing time at first, then it makes sense.
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MLB Experience
Sanchez has MLB experience at 3B (and according to UZR was damm good), Sandoval has MLB experience at 1B (and again according to UZR has been damm good), all of Uggla’s MLB experience is at 2B.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Pablo getting skinnier would hopefully help him wherever he plays— whether that’s first or third.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 16, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
I really wish we’d just leave Pablo at third. He’s shown that he has a good glove and a superb arm, which would go more or less wasted at first
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-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 16, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Sanchez to SS would be my first choice
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
This and this
Pablo should be playing third, and Uggla should be playing first. Actually, Nick Johnson should be playing first, and Uggla shouldn’t be on the team unless we get rid of Rent, which isn’t going to happen (but if it did, in Quincy’s La-La Land of Fun and Dreams And World Fucking Championships, Franchez would play SS).
the Marlins don’t want an arbitration case in return for a player they’re trading because he makes too much in arbitration.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Uggla’s payday is going to be significantly higher than Durty’s this year. And the Fish could then go out an trade Josh Johnson. Or they could turn around and deal Sanchez next year.
3 arb-years of Sanchez > 2 arb-years of Uggla as far as the cash value goes, but probably not appreciably.
I might even consider that a fair deal in baseball terms if the Fish tossed in a serviceable pitcher, but not with our roster as currently constructed (that other Sanchez just bungs it up too much).
So: Don’t bother with Uggla unless we simply cannot get Nick the Stick.
I think you guys are really overvaluing many of the prospects. If it wasn’t Posey, Bumgarner, or Neal, I’d take the deal. Most of the positional prospects probably don’t have much of a chance at making a major league impact, IMO. Or are you that concerned about having to pay Uggla?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
It would just be an overpay. If the Giants are really the only team in on Uggla, there’s no reason they should give up more than they have to.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Why is a starter who has a pretty low chance of becoming a reliable pitcher and two C-level prospects overpaying for two years of ne of the best second basemen in the game?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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cuz its Dirty Sanchez man! We should keep him just for the no hitter replays
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
“one of the best second basemen in the game”…that wouldn’t be playing second base.
by Into the Void on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
I thought the deal was Sanchez goes to third and Pablo goes to first.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
maybe
also talk of Uggla going to 3B or even LF
by Into the Void on Dec 16, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/ugglas-value
Calling him one of the best second basemen in the game is overstating it. He was 11th last year.
And wait, are you talking about Sanchez in that first part? Wow.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
He threw the no hitter and went right on back to being the same ole’ Sanchez.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
?
He was pretty good in the 2nd half of this year. Way better after the no hitter.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
What
He went 5-4 with a 3.83 ERA, a better strikeout rate and a MUCH better walk rate after his no hitter last year. That’s a very useful line.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
After the no hitter he went a total of two games without giving up at least three walks and made it through six innings four times. Those are some pretty big red flags, in my way of looking at it.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Sanchez after the no-hitter
84.2 IP, 42 BB’s, 98 K’s, 3.83 ERA.
Who’s that Ole Sanchez guy? We should sign him.
I was promised lasagna.
His younger brother Sven Sanchez is even more impressive.
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What
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
You are wrong, sir.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Were to start with this heaping pile of wrong.
First off wasn’t thta the party line about signing Fragile Fredy?
Second off bringing in Uggla means you are useing him to instead of trying to get a league average, or better, production from 1st base.
Third of all does Fragile Fred at third realy float yourr boat because geting Uggla at this point means that.
That will do for starters.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Sanchez is already a capable fourth starter. He doesn’t need to be an ace to be a reliable pitcher.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
He’s probably even a capable third starter right now, if you compare him to the slot stats around the league.
Lethargy
It has me
He probably. I’m not going to completely dismiss his early season struggles, but his second-half is amazingly encouraging. Plus, the team has absolutely no one to step into his shoes if he’s traded. Sanchez for Uggla is a bad trade because it makes the team worse. Our replacement 1B (Ishikawa) is better than any of our in-house options for a replacement starter. You have to remember that Bumgarner is currently the 5th starter.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Meh
Injuries haven’t been a problem yet, so I wouldn’t question his durability. I think the innings problem is simply because he gets knocked out of a lot of games due the high pitch counts from all the BB’s. Once he cuts down his walk rate (which I think he will), he could very well be 200 innings of 4.00 ERA ball, which is apparently worth $7.5-9M.
Nah, he’s got no durability. He’s throwing in the high 80’s after 60 pitches.
I was promised lasagna.
Might I suggest the word endurance here to talk about how long he has his stuff and deep he goes in appearances and we use durability to how often a pitcher misses a start or has injury prevent his making planned amount appearances? Or would I be miss reading both your points by doing so?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Reliability in pitchers is overrated.
A runs given up line of 0,0,9,0,3,0 is better than a runs given up line of 2,2,2,2,2,2.
Lethargy
It has me
not if your offense
scores 3,3,3,3,3,3.
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Are you kidding me?
Uggla is not one of the best 2B…his defense is terrible and his bat isn’t THAT great other than DINGERZZZZZ
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I get that we are only bidding against ourselves...
but even so, I don’t see how Uggla isn’t worth, say, Roger K. I’m near the edge of “eff it, get us SOMEONE Sabes!” insanity, but for 30 HRs, an OBP of .344 and OPS+ of 114, I’d give anyone other than the “big 3”
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 16, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Dingerrzzzzzz glad throbin’?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
gland*
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe glad throbin’ is some sort of slang the kids are using nowadays.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Dont get mad, get glad(e)!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
Were Giants fans, of course we are worried about trading prospects. How many times has this team been burned by trading prospects for a MLB player?
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
The Garko trade has some kindling to it.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
It will light up when Shapiro buys him up for $500K
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Only If Barnes Becomes A Useful Major Leaguer
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
If Shapiro resigns Garko, then we traded one of our top pitching prospects for a vacant locker. I call that a burn.
If he signs him for less money, I will need to go buy some aloe.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
If Garko signs for less than what the Giants would have had to pay him after arb, wouldn’t that indicate the Giants were correct in non-tendering him? (i.e. he wasn’t worth $3M or whatever)
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Secondary point would also be why would not the Giants have signed him at the theoretical lower price? It is not like the need for a RHB that can smack LHP around has been filled or better than average 1st base production has been guaranteed since Garko’s non tender.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Only If You Put No Value On Taking A Shot
at catching lighting in a bottle for a post season run.
You are also failing to take into account the impact of Timmy’s second Cy Young award. It made Garko no longer affordable if he wasn’t going to be a starter.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Just as long as it is recessed lighting
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
win
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Except that nothing from what the Giants said at the time indicated that this was a lightning in a bottle acquisition.
The articles about the trade from the Giants perspective continually talked about how he was under team control for 3 more years. At the time, it was thought of as one of the reasons justifying the large cost.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
First, I really would not classify trading for Garko as attempting to get lightning in a bottle. They had no expectations he was going to come in and clobber 20Hrs. He was an attempt to give the offense a little push to back its exceptional pitching and get into the playoffs where our pitching would have a good chance to win some series.
Second, please not this Timmy’s Cy Young has ruined the Giants for years to come stuff again. I am still smarting from the last fanshots.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
As I said then – Ryan Garko does not make the 2009 Giants a World Series contender. ‘Taking a shot’ is a marketing phrase.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
why would you pay a guy 1m+ to sit on the bench the whole time. Tim’s CY has nothing to do with affording Garko. He sat on the bench and they aren’t going to pay someone to sit on the bench cause he would have next season
plus Bochers hated Garko so really he didn’t have a shot
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Garko Was Going To Get Closer To $3M
If the Giants believed closer to $1M was more likely in arbitration they would have kept him. They paid this last year for both Aurilia and Urible.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
the difference between garko and uribe and even aurilia is that they actually played and Uribe was a big impact on our infield I’m saying that the giants are not going to pay someone over 1m to on the sit bench. Those guys didn’t sit on the bench Garko did and they aren’t going to keep him on the bench and pay him that much because really with Bochy running the team Garko isn’t going to see playing time
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Both Aurilia And Uribe Were Signed For Bench Roles
The fact that Uribe played himself into a bigger role is not relevent.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
How do you know he was going to get $3M? Like Evan said, similar players got a range of 1.25-2.5 mil and with Garko’s poor second half, I imagine it would be in the lower range of that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Just Which 1st Year Arb Position Players That Started For 1.5+ Years Got Under $2M?
I am aware of none and that is why I see his likely arb award as being closer to $3M then to $2M.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not about to go look it up, but maybe if Evan shows up he can tell us what he found.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Mike Jacobs Is The Best Comp I Can Find
Last year he entered his first year of arbitration asking for $3.8M, being offered $2.75M, and settling for $3.25M. In his 1611 Career PAs going into this he had a slash line of .262/.318/.498 which is very comparable to Garko’s career 1714 PAs with a slash line of .279/.351/.441. Yes the arb process is likely to overvalue Jacob’s superior SLG while undervaluing Garko’s superior OBP but this is why I see Garko getting the slightly lower amount of close to $3M.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
Jacobs was coming off a year in which he hit 30 DINGERZ while Garko, as we all know, ended up hitting well under 20 for the second year in a row. I think he would have been under $3 mil.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Looking at last year’s first-year arb players, Conor Jackson got three mil, Luke Scott got 2.4, Mike Jacobs got 3.25, Ryan Church got 2.8.
Scott Hairston and Matt Diaz and Gabe Gross got $1.25 million each.
The award seems to be largely determined by what the player did in the year immediately preceding. Matt Diaz is a better player than Garko, but he was coming off a lost year at the time. Mike Jacobs is probably a worse player than Garko, but he was coming off those 32 DINGERZ.
Garko is clearly behind Church and Scott, who hit better and played much better defense.
Luke Scott's 1299 PAs Represents The Bottom Of What Garko Can Expect
A 415 PA advantage for Garko entering arbitration will mean alot more to the arbitrators then Luke’s SLG advantage. Hairston, Diaz, and Gross are not even comps at all as they just did not achieve anything above parttime player PAs with 1154, 978, and 957 respectively before entering arbitration.
by giantsrainman on Dec 17, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve re-signed myself to it.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Untrue
You’re forgetting the opportunity cost of all the other players we could’ve traded for with Barnes other than Garko.
Lethargy
It has me
No< I Just Think This Was The Correct Value Of Barnes
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
The Alderson trade could also have some kindling to it as well.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
+1
and more likely in my book but still hardly a surething.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
As in, preventing us from making moves to improve our infield by a lot this offseason and the opportunity cost of all those other players we could have traded Alderson for that would be much more useful for us now than LOL F. Sanchez.
Lethargy
It has me
It Already Improved Our Infield
It was an overpay but it was hardly wasted.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
But we could be improving our infield by a lot more now without his roadblock in the way.
Adding Johnson/Delgado and Uggla becomes possible sans his $6 mil contract.
Lethargy
It has me
by dregarx on Dec 16, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And the Alderson trade chip would make acquiring Uggla easier.
Hindsight is 20/20 though and the Sanchez acquisition gave some hope to playoff chances last season. Unfortunately things didn’t turn out as expected.
by VizquelQuest on Dec 16, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
How Do You Know Florida Had Any Interest In Alderson?
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
You Implied He Could Have Helped Yeild Us Uggla
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
VizquelQuest Saw The Same Implication I Did
No Sanchez means we still have Alderson and can trade for Uggla and sign Delgado or Johnson too. Now maybe you didn’t mean to imply that Alderson would be part of a said trade for Uggla but you did.
As a final note, we can actually have all three with Sanchez at 2B, Johnson at 1B, and Uggla in LF. This obviously could not be the case if we had not traded for Sanchez.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
VizquelQuest brought his own inference to the table:
And the Alderson trade chip would make acquiring Uggla easier.
Note the “and”? Pretty easy to see he was adding his own idea to the conversation.
What did I say?
Adding Johnson/Delgado and Uggla becomes possible sans his $6 mil contract.
I was talking about contracts, not prospects. And this thing that I said earlier refutes your last paragraph. We don’t have that money. You get to pick two of the three.
Lethargy
It has me
We Have Enouigh Money For Two More Offensive Upgrades
and it appears to me that we are seeking them. What we don’t have enough money for now is Garko, and Penny thanks to the increased cost of Timmy resulting from his second CY. Yes, I know we made an offer to Penny but it now appears that this money will be used for a second offensive upgrade instead.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
OGC defends everything the Giants do pretty hard.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
When was the last time he didn’t, I wonder?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
OGC has a fun acronym.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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of course it was an overpay and you can’t really say it improved our infield since LOL F Sanchez barely played before he hit the DL and in that time he didn’t suddenly knock us ahead any more than Garko did…it was a stupid trade to begin with
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Improving Our Infield Isn't A 2009 Only NeedTra
Trading for Sanchez was about 2010 and beyond too.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Seeing as Sanchez is over 30 and undergoing knee surgery, counting on him to improve the infield past 2010 is a pretty tenuous assumption.
That is one dumb way to improve ‘long-term’.
Lethargy
It has me
His Knee Injury/ Surgery Is Very Low Risk
It is common in baseball today with the vast majority of players regardless of age recovering completely.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
I'm more concerned about Sabean's negotiating abilities
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
I am pretty sure Sabean goes through a drive through and pays $29.99 per burger.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
And he only got a double double at In N Out
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Drive-thru girl: “Do you want ketchup with that?”
Sabean: “How much do they cost?”
Drive-thru girl: …..“seriously?….Um, $8 a pack”
Sabean: “GIVE ME 107 OF THEM!”
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 16, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
in certain European countries, that ketchup price is not unusual.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 16, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
It’s called Le Big Mac in France
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
But we dont know what a Whopper is called
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
I only try to be in places that understand “double double animal style.”
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
It’s called the “You are in the country with one of the finest food cultures in the world, why the fuck are you eating burger kind”
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
damn that burger kind!
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
RACIST BURGER HATER!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Go to court with Sabe’s as your council on a Misdomeanor and leave with the death penalty.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Typical McC groupthink
You guys are waaaaay over-valuing orphans.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
They are all pretty bad. I mean, buster won’t be ready until at least 2012.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Or possibly under-valuing stabbing.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
From the NY Post....
The Yankees and Nick Johnson are talking about the sweet-swinging lefty and on-base machine replacing Hideki Matsui as the World Champions’ DH on a one-year deal.
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 16, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions
let the freakout commence!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
LOL POSADA CATCHING FOR ANOTHER YEAR
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
TRUE YAHKEE…SHOULD BE 1ST MATE
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Best Catcher ever!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
HIP HIP JORGE!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
what happened to jose molina? did i miss something?
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
You can only have one DH. If that is Johnson, Posada is back behind the plate.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I thought I heard
he signed somewhere else but I can’t find a link now
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Has Sabean glued his hands to his seat?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Good news!
Brain Sabean finds ass with two grabs!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
/squeezes
“How’d you get behind me, Ned..? Wait…”
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Sabe’s must have really low-balled NJ.
TWHS TWSS away….
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
And now he’s getting the shaft from Johnson
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Dad?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
No worries. It will be Ovlio & Jacobs that SAbean wants.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Hank Blalock is going to start popping up with the Giants as soon as NJ is off the board.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
By that time he might take a 1 year or 1 +1 contract. Naw it has to be someone that would discredit the Lunatic Fringe’s call for restraint of multiyear contracts for Scrub-ean-ees and be young enough for them to feel comfortable benching after his first 2-25 stretch.
/ nods nods
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Well, I suppose they could get Atkins to platoon with him. Sabean loves platoons
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
2005 World Champion White Sox Reunion
join the bandwagon
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Yes. another good possibility. You know he’s on Sabeans “radar”.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
LOL RAIDERS
Charlie Frye starting this weekend. JaMarcus Russell days are numbered.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
If he had to throw it back to 2B to turn a double play
will he give up and run it to 3B?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
He would try to throw it to 2B but it would go 102 mph towards the center fielder.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Darrius Heyward Bay would jump on the field to catch it with his face
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Fun fact
I don’t think DHB has caught more than 2 passes in a game yet so I thank Al Davis every time Crabtree caught his 3rd reception of a game, and it’s happened in every game he has played.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 16, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Do you really want to make me cry?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
He needs Camp Panda.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Move Russell to O-Line
The Raiders need help there anyways.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
They passed on Fitzgerald to take Big Bob
Then passed Calvin Johnson to take Big J. Only Al Davis…
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 16, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
how much would they like alex smith right now?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 16, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't give up Crawford
since he’ll be in AAA this year and ready for the majors in 2011, and the Giants will definitely be needing a shortstop then, and if Crawford is gone, I can just see all the Bobby Crosby or Adam Everett who’s the worse option threads next off season. Anyone else beyond the top three are available, but I’d rather talk the Marlins into taking Valdez over Runzler.
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions
Rob (Oakland): After prematurely signing Renteria last winter, Sabean is waitng the market out this time, right? Not just asleep at the wheel?
Christina Kahrl: Give the man a break (I know, I’m saying this, I really am), he made the right call on General Garko.
which right call?
trading for him or non-tendering?
Cause you don’t get both.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Actually You Could
The trade was hoping to catch lighting in a bottle for a playoff push while the non tender was a decision that the dollars were better spent elsewhere.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Except, at the time, they talked about the Garko trade as being more than a short-term thing. Seriously.
THEY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS UNDER TEAM CONTROL FOR THREE YEARS AS A BIG PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY TRADED FOR HIM.
And you don’t give up a top 10 prospect for a 2 and a half month rental.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I think a team is allowed to change their mind about a player after seeing him up close.
For example, they didn’t know he wouldn’t “see eye-to-eye” with Bochy. They might have also disliked his work habits and hitting approach.
That said, it appears from the outside that he wasn’t given ample opportunity, especially considering he had switched leagues.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Yes, but the fact that he had to go to fat camp might say something out his habits.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Wouldn’t it say the same about Pablo’s work habits?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
If it ain’t broke…
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Garko’s not the chosen one.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
So then we are back to making a decision on Garko based on his 100+ at bats. That is kinda dumb.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Can’t see eye to eye, not good soldier.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Like I said, I don’t think he was given enough opportunity, but I do think it’s possible to change your opinion about someone after having him around for a couple of months and decide he’s not worth $3 million
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Yeah I agree with this.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
PODS
FTW
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
I want PODS now.
FTW
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
But don’t you think if you are going out of your way to trade for a young(ish) player who has contract flexibility, that you would do your homework more before trading a top-10 prospect. I think there is an opportunity cost for trading somebody of Barnes caliber. They could have traded him for somebody that would still be here this year.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Here's what I said on the "Garko worst trade" thread
I think the outrage over the Garko affair is a little overblown. People that are upset seem to forget that we were "in this thing!" and it was in-season trade to try to get us over the hump. This was at a time when Aurilia was our RHH option at 1B. Personally, I’d never thought of Barnes as a chip that was going to turn into, or bring back ,something special.
If Garko had come in and gone all Randy Winn and pushed the team into the post-season, it would have been hailed great trade.
Unfortunately, Garko didn’t work out. I think he definitely wasn’t given enough of a chance and is better than he showed. Now the team was left with the choice of tendering a guy who (according to Baggs) didn’t get along with the manager and may, in their eyes, may not be worth what he would get in arbitration. They cut bait; it happens.
Sabean rolled the dice and crapped out. I can’t blame him for trying to catch lightning in a bottle and think the upside potential of the deal was worth the risk of Barnes.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
But the trade wasn’t about catching lightning in a bottle, it was about Garko being a decent complement to Ishikawa and about the fact that he was under team control long-term. That was what they said at the time.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
It Was About Both Until Timmy Won a Second Cy Young
Then the second no longer made sense as the dollars were now judged to be better spent elsewhere.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
That Bastard
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
This is where I mention that LaRoche and Johnson were traded around the same time for lesser prospects.
I was promised lasagna.
For the most part I agree with this. L’affaire Garko isn’t a big deal one way or the other.
And yet. The thinking behind it drives me nuts. Sabean went after Garko rather than two clearly better players, LaRoche and Johnson. Why? Because he wouldn’t be a three-month rental, presumably.
And yet now we’ve decided that he ought to be a three-month rental. Why? Because he was bad in 125 pa’s or whatever it was.
And now we’ve cut him loose without a replacement in hand, meaning we’re going to be compelled to pay for a free agent or a big trade piece, whether it’s a good deal or not.
And that’s not even mentioning how Garko helped demonstrate yet again how hapless Bochy is at managing his roster, and yet Bochy’s still around.
Yes, exactly. Garko is negligible, but what the whole affair shows about the amount of thought the Giants put into the running of the time is what horrifies me.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
It’s not the amount of thought, it’s the quality.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
People keep throwing the $3 million number around, but was he necessarily going to make that much?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
BIG-BONED!!!
/auto-defenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
They can say that, but I’ll still think it’s a bullshit excuse or a sign that they didn’t do “due diligence” on the player before acquiring him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
So, in their defense...
It’s possible that they didn’t know he’s fat and weren’t familiar with his hitting approach before trading for him?
I was promised lasagna.
They might have also disliked his work habits and hitting approach
Well he did walk like 3 times in his first 6 games. So that kind of patient hitting approach doesn’t go over to well with Bochy
by NateEveryday on Dec 16, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, They Did. But Timmy's Second Cy Young Changed All Of That.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, so Timmy’s second Cy Young means we can’t spend $3.4 million on a first base platoon of Garko and Ishikawa, but we can potentially sign Nick Johnson to a 2 year deal worth $8 million per?
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No, It Means We Can't Afford The Extra $$$ For Garko To Backup/Platoon With Nick Johnson
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
If Garko had hit the same as a Giant as he did as an Indian last year, I don’t think the Giants would be looking at Nick Johnson at all.
So it all goes back to the Giants overreacting to a small sample size of at-bats! Whoo!
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This
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Johnson Or Uggla Would Still Be Upgrades
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Then why didn’t the Giants just trade for Nick Johnson at the time?
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Because He Was About To Be A Free Agent
and would have cost more then Garko without the option of keeping him without bidding against others in free agency.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Except for the part where he was traded for a much worse prospect than Barnes?
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Only If Johnson Was Willing To Fogo Free Agency
Garko and Sanchez were under the Giants control while Johnson would not have been.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Who we are of course going to get.
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UGHHHHH !!
enough people…… all this arguing over non-tendering a far below avg. 1B. he isn’t worth the money he would’ve made in arbitration. no serious contender would have him as more than a bench player. scott barnes, … expendable. move on……..
Siriously
After being drafted, he was a top-10 prospect (I think #9) in a solid farm. Then he had a good year.
I was promised lasagna.
ok
i’d like to see a study on number of “#9” prospects that turned out to be major league regulars. especially pitchers.
You can’t platoon Garko with a guy who hits both RHP and LHP better than him.
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2010
LF Platton
1B Platoon
RF Platoon
C Platoon
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
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Plus one Dollar!
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants were not planning on having to pay Timmy as much as they are now likely to have ot pay him.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Which is why they are now looking at more expensive first base solutions?
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They Always Planned To Further Ungrade The Offense
I believe that when they aquired Garko they believed they would have the money for both because Timmy would not be as expensive as they now see him as likely to be.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
You are making a Giant assumption there.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly, if Timmy gets 10 million if he doesn’t win the award but has the exact same season, do you really think that the award is worth all that much more? We will see, but the award by itself cannot be worth more than 1-2 million, can it?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
If I was his agent, I think I could make an arb case that it’s worth more than $2M from a sales & marketing standpoint.
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Interesting point. But will the arbiter agree? Of course his agent can make that case to the Giants and they can compromise. From this perspective, it might actually make sense to take Timmy to the arbiter, hoping he will only look at similar statistics, not the awards, marketing, and sales part of the equation. Really they should just lock up all his arb-eligble years and get it over with, but I’m not sure Timmy want to play ball… We’ll see.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t understand why you continue to make the point that Tim’s Cy is the death of the Giants. He was going to get a huge raise ANYWAYS and the Giants had plenty of opportunities to upgrade the infield and just made the decision and picked up a player that didn’t work out in the end.
And I really doubt that much would have changed anyways regarding payroll. Even with Tim’s raise payroll is going to stay relatively the same even though I think their payroll can go higher since they aren’t a small market team.
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
Big Difference Between Max $8M Before 2nd Cy And The Max Now
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
wow…probably a 5m difference. Sorry 5m isn’t going to get us anything good. I’ll be surprised if he gets more than 12m in arbitration 2 Cy Young’s and all
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You Are Missing The Point
Before Garko’s almost $3M was coved while after it is going to be going to Timmy. You are right that this is not the only likely cost of Timmy’s 2nd CY the difference is indeed more then this.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants have money set aside for Timmy and all the arbitration cases but that’s besides the point. I don’t know how much you seriously think Tim is going to get in arbitration but I’m saying that its HIGHLY unlikely that he’ll be making more than 12m maybe a little more but not that much more.
Money had nothing to do with keeping Garko in the sense that the Giants don’t have the money to keep Garko. They weren’t going to pay a bench player 3m that makes no sense whatsoever. Garko was gone when he stopped getting playing time. He wasn’t going to come back because there were issues between him and the club allegedly specifically with Bochy.
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$8M max?? I think that’s pretty optimistic.
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Before the second CY that was in deed the likely max.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
And they couldn’t have guessed he’d potentially win a second Cy when, as someone pointed out, he was 11-3 with a 2.30 ERA at the time?
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Yeah, it was pretty clear all summer that Tim was having an awesome-tacular year that would susbstantially drive up his arb award. I honestly don’t think the second Cy has all that much to do with him getting a huge raise as he was already a completely unique case and the best pitcher in the league.
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lol this too
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When a guy has a year like Timmy did in 2008 and has the stuff, I don’t think you plan on him winning another award, but you do plan on him having another stellar year. They should have planned for this and the foreseeable contract increase that it would have caused.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
This. It keeps me up at night. At least, that’s what I tell my boyfriend. I can’t have him thinking he’s doing everything right.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Yep, the very same
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think if you are trying to catch lightening in a bottle for a playoff run, you pick up a type-A rental so you can get the draft picks. Alternatively, you do what the the Giants did and make a strategic move (you can argue about the merits of getting only Garko for Barnes, but the fact that they got somebody with contract flexibility in return was a good move) but didn’t see it through because they hold grudges.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
mood lighting
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Since when is Dirty right-handed?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:05 PM PST reply actions
Ever since Grant posted that article. I guess.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
i think they’re plaques, but im not sure
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Is that what Tim calls his?
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Hallday: Timmy, go get your shinebox.
Timmy: No more shines, Roy.
Halladay: What?
Timmy: I said, no more shines. Maybe you didn’t hear about it, you’ve been away a long time. They didn’t go up there and tell you. I won two Cy Young awards.
Roy: Relax, will ya? Ya flip right out, what’s got into you? I’m breaking your balls a little bit, that’s all. I’m only kidding with ya… Go smoke some weed and chill…
Timmy: Sometimes you don’t sound like you’re kidding, you know, there’s a lotta people around and some of them still think I’m a fluke ‘cause I’m tiny and I throw funny.
Roy: I’m only kidding with you, we’re having a party, I just came to Philly and I haven’t seen you in a long time and I’m breaking your balls, and you’re getting fucking fresh. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend you. Look I’m rich now, let me buy you a drink or four thousand.
Timmy: I’m sorry too. It’s okay. No problem. Let’s get wasted and dance silly.
Roy: Okay, salud.
Roy: [takes a drink] Now go home and get your fuckin’ shinebox you dirty hippie.
Timmy: Mother fuckin’ mutt! You, you fucking piece of shit, ex-Canandian!
[Timmy throws a fastball through Halladay’s face.]
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
lol
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THANKS. I love pie.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty high on Runzler
He has control problems, but he is absolutely filthy. I think his upside is closer. Of course because of his current control issues, his downside is Burger King frialator in 2011. That said, I’m sure teams have seen him and might think highly of him. I guess I would just want to think deeply about giving up a guy who we know can get ML hitters out instead of farm hands who have yet to reach the big-leagues.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:12 PM PST reply actions
Where
is Grant getting all these orphans?
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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At the orphan store
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
ouch!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
He’s just doing his part. One of them could end up being the most evil wizard of all time. Probably not. But we can’t take that chance.
"It's too late now."
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
I assume cookieman’s in charge?
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Thats what Walrusman wants you think.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
This is where Cookyman is from.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
Goofus’s one was better, considering that his joke didn’t involve implying that my parents are dead.
I was promised lasagna.
COOKYMAN IS BATMAN!!!
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YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
NO!!
I code better when I am nekkid.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t see a Free Candy van in the pic. This has to be fake.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
That would be in Walrusville
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
sick burn
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
IRL LOL
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Y'know what would be funny?
If someone said something about Cookyman. Y’know, because the place in the picture is called Cookieville. I would so laugh at that.
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Noonan or Tanner
We were rosterbating last week, throwing some names around for the Uggla trade and Noonan and Tanner were the names that I kept coming up with…If Uggla is dealt for, I think one of these two guys would be the “centerpiece”…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Dec 16, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions
Is 1B last year's SS?
Last year we needed a SS and Sabes rushed out and signed the first SS for too much money with no benfit because all the FA SS ended up sucking.
Maybe Sabean has learned something and figures on just waiting it out and signing the last one cheapest since all of the 1B options have red flags.
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No red flags here!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Dirty Sanchez pictures from his starts were likely the sole reason that I won newb of the year. Because of this, we must keep Sanchez, as I owe so much to him and would like him to stay on the team.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
You one?!
/starts recall drive
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I think Im going to start that thing this summer
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All the workouts are real fun after about day 15. But a big middle finger to Ab-Ripper
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“I hate it but I love it!”
I found the secret to ARX:
- Don’t wear shoes when you do it (Weight of shoes makes a big difference!)
- Do it before the strength workout. (It’s easier and your form will be better.)
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I actually add ankle weights to my workouts.
I’m not a big fan of pain, but I got used to it. Guess that makes me a model Giants fan.
BTW Goofus did you ever get a chance to get mobile versions of the vids? I converted mine for my iPhone
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, 3-4 times a week. Like Sit up/push up type things. I get to the Gym when I have time, but I dont usually have time
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The plyometrics and stamina conditioning are a big plus for this system
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
It’s a lot of push-ups, pull-ups, curls and ab/core stuff on the strength days. The cardio stuff is butt-kicking. I still burn over 800 calories in a 60 minute session.
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The wifey got me a new calorie/heartrate monitor
I can vouch for what you’re saying
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
hmm
this would allow me to maintain weight and my alcohol consumption.
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Since it's all indoor....
…I think winter is a better time to do it. You basically have workouts 6-7 days a week. In the summer, it’s easy to get side-tracked by outdoor sports and stuff. Plus, you’ll be looking good by the time bikini season rolls around.
I really like the program.
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Im limited by a dorm room and a crazy schedule. How much room do you need, and how long does the average workout take?
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strength days are 1:15
cardio days are 1:00
yoga is 1:30 (one day a week)
Keep in mind that there’s no travel time to the gym and back.
If your dorm room has room for crunches, push ups and pull ups, you’ve got room. The cardio stuff might be rough since ther’s a lot of jumpin’ around.
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Sounds good
If I can come up with the money I’ll get it sooner rather than later. Thanks for the info
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Anybody doing “Stronglifts 5×5”? I did it for a month, stopped cause I was traveling a lot and started again this week. It works, I gained about 6 pounds in two weeks; of course my wife says it’s all milk from half-gallon of whole milk I’m drinking every day. But I feel stronger.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Get stronger. To get stronger, I have to gain some weight. Whole milk is high in fat, protein, and calories, and it is easier to ingest than heavy food, so you can drink a lot of it. If I put on some fat, it should come off easily once I stop drinking milk. It’s a system, I don’t know if it will work, but I’m trying it.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Ah yes I know the benefits of drinking milk. How messed up is your stomach getting from all that milk?
Protein really is super important. Eat tons of chicken and fish and take protein shakes
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
So, I’m lactarded and I have been drinking soy milk for years. I used to drink Lactaid, but the non-fat variety. I have never regularly had whole milk. It’s like crack! Seriously, I think about it when I am not drinking it.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Oh and my stomach is ok.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
My Girlfriend
Is a diehard angles fan and likes to remind me of 2002 but i put up with it, does that make me a bad Giants fan?
Fuck yeah, I love angles too
Acute ones, oblique ones… unf.
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The only angles are right.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Of course
My girlfriend is a Cardinals fan. I might have to think about this some more.
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Arizona or St. Louis?
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Does it matter?
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Good point.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
I’m trying to make it work with a Cowboys fan. I got him to watch the Niners-Cardinals game with me Monday and he behaved. One Sunday at a time…
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Oh man, that would be such a deal breaker for me.
“So… wait… you’re saying that you grew up rooting for Troy Aikman and marveling at the inhuman size of his palms?”
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And then I melt, or something. This is all hypothetical.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
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I’ll palm the world and melt with you.
Utter frustration and futility.
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I thought your first quote was going to end a little differently
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
We went for coffee Sunday morning and he tried to sneak Aikman into our discussion on the greatest QBs of all time. If he didn’t agree that Joe Montana was GOAT, then I would have walked out of the coffee shop.
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Staubach!
Utter frustration and futility.
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The other irrational, even for Cryboy fans, crush that I was sooo tired of is Dorsett. Yes, he was good in the NFL (Great in college) but that line he ran behind made him otherwise he would have been road kill in 3 years with out them. Yet they always seemed to want to include him with Elites of the game ( Brown, Simms etc).
Who’s brain did you bring me?
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He did fine during the discussion on great running backs. Walter Payton was the consensus. There’s hope.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
So he was born after 1980 i take it. Hopefully it is only another 10-15 years before the Aikman crush similarly fades.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 17, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
1988
I’ve caught some heat for dating a youngin, but I just say I got a head start on being a cougar.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Holy Fucking Shit! He’s younger than my brother!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
And for context, my brother is younger than me.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
WHOOOOOOOOOOA
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Inorite?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Get this
My sister was born in 1988 AND she’s younger than me too!
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Holy Fucking Shit! She’s even younger than my brother!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
My girlfriend’s brother was born in 1991. I always go “WTFH” when I remember that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Things just got awkward.
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Indeed. Actually, I’m pretty sure that we met before her brother was even born.
God damn.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
It is weird to be dating someone younger than my brother, who is 23. I still can’t fathom that my baby brother is that age.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
He might be a Goonies fan. He loves Dune, and that’s way older than both of us.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
With Patrick Stewart?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
The books
Haven’t discussed the movie with him yet.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Have you watched it recently? It doesn’t hold up. I loved it as a kid but now I get so annoyed at how whiney Mikey is.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
TWSW&DN!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
That’s What She…
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
You just made me feel old.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
I feel old every day of my life at college.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
So you saying people are calling you Walruswoman?
Whatever works with the minum ammount of scars for you both. More power to you.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 17, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I didn’t lure him into my pedo van with free candy, though.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Well, sure. He just turned 21. So you used free booze. The candy was a quarter a piece.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
You figured me out
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
The candy is just to turn a profit on the cost of booze. It really is a cunning ruse.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
As long as it’s not water. He’d never trust that.
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Like candy doesn’t come wrapped in fetching pieces of fabric. Ah ha.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 17, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
ZOMG
my son was born in 2004!!!@! YOUNG INORITE.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Almost too young for Baron.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 18, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
it begins
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 18, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
OMG. I am sorry. I had no idea this brach would get near this or I woujld have keep my trap shut.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 18, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I see a lot of those inter-team marriages on TV, but I couldn’t do it.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
I know Adrian Gonzalez is goin to the Sox because my fianceé reminds me every hour. At least she’s not a Dodgers fan
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
I like remind her that lackey is gone, its fun to watch her face when i tell her
by panda revival on Dec 16, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
my wife went to univ of florida
i’ve only known here for a few years, but i’ve lived through 2 ncaa basketball championships, football championship, and have gator crap all over the house.
my condolences
especially from a BC Eagle
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
I’m a white Charger fan and my wife is a black Raider fan. We’re the ultimate mixed-marriage.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I’ve been waiting weeks to use the term “grudge sex” in here. Thank you so, so much.
Also, my recommendation is lots of grudge sex.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 16, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the advice Grant
Now I can live with my Cardinals fan girlfriend.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
If thats anything like “wager sex” my Raider fan wife and I do that when they play each other. “If my team wins…If your wins…”
We also do that when they do not play.
Fun times all around.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I don’t get it. If you win, you guys have sex. If she wins, you guys have sex. Either way, you win and she loses.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
I read that as
grunge sex
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Things I shouldn’t do a GIS search for
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Sorry, but your answer must be in the form of a question.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I'll take the PenIs Mightier
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
If you are going to take that, then I will take AnAl bum Cover.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, high school memories. “First I unbuttoned her flannel, then she unbuttoned mine.” HAWT!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Did your flannel have sleeves at the time?
And what color were your Doc Martens?
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Is there sleeve-less flannel? An no Doc Martens, I couldn’t get past the Neo-Nazi image of them.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Ah
So that’s who those guys were…
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
There goes Grant, trolling for google traffic again…
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I married a Dodger fan. It was kinda cute in 2000 when we were dating. Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, Robb Nen. By 2004, we were married & had a child and then we watched the Finley HR in person… wasn’t so cute anymore.
Hey, you try to find a hot latina woman in Southern California that’s not a Dodger fan. (THATS RACIST)
"It's too late now."
As xanthan kindly suggested to me when discussing a now ex-girlfriend’s annoying habit of saying “Go Dodgers” every time they came on TV despite the fact that she hated baseball…
May I suggest you light her on fire?
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
my boyfriend is a dodger fan…not as obnoxious and hardcore like most but by am I throwing the McCourt divorce in his face like nobody’s business
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
You should be asking him how he likes them re-signing Dreifort? Of coarse that might leave a mark so be forewarned.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
he gets really asshurt when I talk about the McCourts and I did make fun of him about the Dreifort signing today
but then he goes on to remind me that the Giants will sign someone like Scott Podsednik
and then he goes on to remind me of Zito/Rowand/Renteria contracts
now both of our feelings are hurt
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
I would back off a bit on the owner card, just the voice of expeirance here, Ownership is the absolute one thing on the team that a fans has less than Zero chance of dealing with or controlling. In my fandom the Giants were set to move to differnt citties 3 times that my currently coffee deprived brains remembers. It is the crappiest of all situations.
As for him mentioning Zito & Rowand at least the team as not done it twice which the Bums has effectively done with Dreifort.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
White Sox offseason moves may be complete
Welcome the newest SF Giants: Scott Podsednik and Jermaine Dye!!!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:08 PM PST reply actions
BUT BLUE JAYS SIGNED LANCE BROADWAY!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, was this a new “Chalk Talk” thingy that Da Mayor/jponry were banned from weren’t invited to?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Yay!
One fan wanted to know about keeping Lincecum and fellow pitcher Matt Cain as Giants for the long haul.
“Cain has two more years before free agency,‘’ Sabean said, "and Lincecum has four more and is going through arbitration right now. We are in a good situation because they both want to be Giants for a long time.’’
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
As for the readiness of pitcher Madison Bumgarner and catcher Buster Posey, Bochy said, "I really think that they can start for us next year. Posey is gonna be a front line catcher and he’s on the fast track. Bumgarner did a heck of a job last year when Timmy went down. Here are two tremendous kids that stood out and both held their own. I’m curious to see how Buster looks this spring.’’
oic…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I was curious to see how Buster looked back in September.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
by Kitspool on Dec 16, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
BORK
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Complete turnaround on Buster from 3 weeks ago.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Yeah, I find it very interesting. I don’t know if it’s a negotiating ploy for the remaining FA catchers or an indication that the Giants have decided to commit to Posey.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I have stopped trying to analyze what Bochy and Sabean say. It’s all bullshit to me.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
“Peguero is a young outfielder that we just placed on our 40-man roster,‘’ Sabean said. "He’s a lot like Sandoval in that he has a lot of energy. Thomas Neal came into his own last year and developed an all-around game. Brandon Crawford is going to be our shortstop of the future. We have a flow of talent that people will be proud of.’’
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
“He has a very similar body type to Tony Gwynn.’’
Gwynn was skinny when he was young. Curious statement…
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
oh man, this is so awesome
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
The unlikeness is uncanny
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
I think this is the oldest pic I’ve seen of Pablo as a Giant. (That’s YEAH JOEY behind him, BTW.)
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
YEAH JOEY!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
YEAH JOEY!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
YEAH JOEY!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
YEAH JOEY!
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
WOAH JOEY!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Dig the sweater around the waist. That’s rebellion .
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grunge sex!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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I LOLD
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Good gravy, it’s Joey Russo.
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
“No comment,‘’ Romo said, smiling. "Let’s just say I started hating the Dodgers the second I put on a Giants uniform.’’
Just another reason why I’m a Romosexual.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Was that in response to the ongoing LOLDIVORCE?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I may be suddenly ROMOCURIOUS
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
WHERE MY ROMOSEXUALS AT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
In the offseason I’m a Morrowsexual. I go back to being a Romosexual when pitchers and catchers report.
Proud member of the Adopt-a-Giant program (Aaron Rowand)
SUP
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
I really think he has the potential to be a closer in the future
BWheez is good and pretty young too, but Romo’s stuff is whack. I’ve never seen balls wiggle around in the air like that. TWSS.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
wait
are you using “whack” as a positive?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Yes
it’s whack, like it’s crazy, like it’s awesome.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
So when I say ‘crack is whack’, we’re in total agreement?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Either I’ve been in a coma for a few years, or this expression changed meanings overnight.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
what what
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I AM READY FOR A CRAZY MOVE THAT UPSETS US ALL BUT REALLY TURNS OUT TO BE OK
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
Not sure when the last time that has happened
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 16, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
MY RAGE HAT IS ON!!!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
I’m ready for some of that too.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 16, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Zito was on the MLB Network
Talking about his Strikeouts for the Troops event.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
Ugh, NBC-11 is here too, not just CSNBA. I should be ready to answer questions about who drew my Nattowear Four Aces + Joker Mini Giants shirt.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
you work for MLB Network?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Just attending.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
May ask what are you attending and how do you sign up?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/12/10/1195313/strikeouts-for-troops-charity-event
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You — I am wearing your shirt. If anyone asks who made it, what do you want me to say?
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Nattowear found here!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I dunno
Tell them to check out my website, I guess.
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Natto your zazzle is opening.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, no, but that’s where I remember it from. Yay backyard.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Failure – I can’t figure out a decent WalrusMan joke about stabbing orphans in the wedgies.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 4:35 PM PST reply actions
Walrusman won’t be happy with Grant as competition.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Off topic inanity
So, I can get a one bedroom in Antioch for $750 a month.
Does that include indoor plumbing or do I have to bring my own bucket?
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 16, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions
You moving?
Antioch is pretty cool. They have one the best dirt tracks in the nation
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
It's a recurring thought.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 16, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
I was born in Antioch
But we moved when I was little. My Grandmother though still lives there.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
one bedroom? you aren’t bringing the brood with you?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
That's another.
If pressed, he’d probably opt for the nonpressure of living with his mother, as opposed to the constant haranguing from his father over missed assignments and less – than – stellar grade postings. Then again, there might be enough latent adventurist in him to take the plunge.
Phoenix is a boring town. Let’s start with the topography…
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 16, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Why is Antioch’s name familiar to me … was it in the news?
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sarchasm?
Jaycee Lee Dugard, who was kidnapped from South Lake Tahoe at age 11 in 1991, spent 18 years living in the backyard of an Antioch home
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I’m guessing “yes”.
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Explains the cheap rent.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
I lived less than two blocks from that house growing up and I had no idea what was going on there. It makes me sick thinking about it.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
You might as well move to Brentwood
Antioch, is well, Antioch..
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Antiyuck
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 16, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
suburban slums are cheap
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 16, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
I grew up in Antioch. It’s fine if you like uppity white people who think they’re living in an upscale area and then scream and cry when someone gets stabbed on their block. Plus, the river smells like meth and dead bodies.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
KILL IT WITH FIRE
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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GREAT USE OF THE JUAN PIEERE MONEY!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Now he’s ugly.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
He was ugly before as well.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Now he’s ugly and evil.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
/throws can of tomoatoes
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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/Velez clanks them away
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
/adds garlic and basil
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
/IT BYRNES!
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
lol wow
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
Depends, do you have chipoltaway?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Chipolte, are they any good?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, I’m tired and I am “studying”. I never ate at one, I try to avoid FF/Chain mexican food. How do they taste? I like Qboda some times.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
they put a ton of rice in the burritos. they’re not bad for a chain though.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Chipotle
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I want to send a shout out to my homies at the McCoven and especially to the LLAMAS
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
I personally don't mind
Noonan or Runzler being traded.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Dec 16, 2009 6:50 PM PST reply actions
How about trading moderate value for Uggla and then dealing Sanchez? I think Freddy’s reputation is better than Uggla’s, but I don’t think he’s a beter player. On the other hand, is there a waiting period before a free agent can be traded?
I think he can’t be traded w/o his permission until May 1st? And I don’t think he’d have much trade value.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
But It Does Not Appl;y Here
Freddy was never a free agent as he was re-signed before his team option expired.
by giantsrainman on Dec 17, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
slow computer is slow
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Official McPokeMaster
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 7:04 PM PST reply actions
OT: exam tomorrow, aside from being on the forum, these fuckers upstairs decide to play loud weezer, thanks guys! and the library is already packed with people, like sitting ont he floors packed, nowhere else to go… guess i could just use my stereo
I finished mine like 11 years ago.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I do not miss that.
I’m trying to write a grad school app essay and it’s TOO QUIET TO FOCUS.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Haha, well good luck with that… i really don’t mind the music, it’s the jumping up and down “WOAHHH I”M DRUNK LOOK AT ME" shit that pisses me off
Yeah, the douches who lived upstairs from me last year did that all the time. Except they would play the same song (usually Pokerface on repeat for about 2 hours).
They did it the night before my very last final (at 9AM) of college FFFFUUUU. Man, I was pissed.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
pffffffft maybe they are seeking vengeance for your "WOAHHH I"M DRUNK LOOK AT ME" shit from the last weekend!!
dis is you
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
it’s the jumping up and down "WOAHHH I"M DRUNK LOOK AT ME" shit that pisses me off
I’m going to remember this for next year during drunken PiKA game day threads.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Hey, as long as i don’t SCREAM AND PLAY LOUD MUSIC, but yea, i do that, so it’s kinda selfless to say that… but yea, i wont come on here and say, OH I"M DRUNK IM FUNNY!
oh, but i wish you would.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
OT!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Is it at least Weezer from when they were good?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Dec 16, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The blue one is their first.
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Man, they suck so much now.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
It saddens me.
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Me too.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, minus the political slant, exactly like Green Day.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
(Although, Green Day isn’t nearly as bad as Weezer is right now)
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Green Day’s music is starting to all sound the same.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Pearl Jam > Greenday > Weezer
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
The new Pearl Jam release sucked ass
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Oh god yes. Fucking terrible. You always know an album is going to really suck when all the mainstream reviews call it a “return to form”. On the plus side, the iTunes “album” version is pretty cool and I think it might be the future of digital music presentation.
/auto-defenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Every Pearl Jam Album since Yield has been called a return to form, unfortunately most people missed out on the best PJ album of all. I think No Code sold only 600,000 albums in 95. Before Napster was really killing record sales.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Napster didn’t kill any album sales… that’s a record industry talking point.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
What do you base that on?
It wouldn’t surprise me that there wasn’t a big dip, and that it was leveraged by the record industry, but what evidence do you have that something else other than file sharing, and home computer cd duplication didn’t? Because we all know that Bands don’t make money from record sales these days.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
The majority of bands never made a lot of money from record sales.
Information technology has made the record industry’s business model for ripping off artists antiquated, it’s true, but Napster itself is a boogyman created by the record industry… for instance, I could argue that the ability to find a wide variety of interesting music, get samples and make informed consumer decisions (rather than accepting whatever garbage a record company’s A&R department decided to shove down peoples throats) has more to do with any dip in record sales than the simple copying of CD’s.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
What I meant by "napster"
was file “Sharing” and copying in general. I’ve got no numbers in front of me, but I would guess that it has more effect on the vitality of the record industry than dilution of the market through greater choice. I agree with you though, Dilution is a big factor, just not sure it is bigger than pirating.
"…this thing which tells time."
I agree. It used to be that there was no practical way to get music outside of buying the record. I have trouble believing that easy filesharing didn’t impact record sales. However, the record industry was/is being stupid trying to combat it, since the technology isn’t going away. It’ll only get more and more prevalent. What they needed to do is adapt their business model to make a profit off copying digital music, but they chose to spend their resources on legal battles instead.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
Ahhhh, a fantastic design problem.
They need to hire a creative thinker and not an army of lawyers. I’m sure IDEO would be happy to take their attorney fees to solve this problem.
"…this thing which tells time."
‘pirating’ is a loaded term… again, an industry term. Sharing music is not bad.
The fact is that technology has made the selling of copies of recordings not a viable business model – sort of like operating a steam locomotive company and complaining about all those deisels ruining the worls. Bands can and do make money by touring – selling tickets and merch (i.e. ‘working’).
The record industry’s sense of entitlement to sitting on intellectual property and raking in billions is more offensive to me than having my friends turn me on to a bunch of cool stuff (some of which I will go out and spend money on). I don’t really care if a bunch of rich, overrated, lazy, self-indulgent rock stars lose out while a much larger number of independent acts get a shot at massive exposure.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Reproducing copyrighted material is umm,
illegal.
While it is an impossible law to fully enforce, the law is not negated simply by an evolution of technology.
I agree that they should try to monetize file sharing, rather than fight legal battles, but as long as a band signs a deal, with a distributor who holds copyright on their music, it’s still illegal to reproduce it even if you want to call it “sharing.” If a band wants to circumvent that process and release their music for free online to help promote themselves, that is their choice (and probably a better strategy). But if they sign a contract your distaste for the record business doesn’t nullify the contract.
"…this thing which tells time."
Arrr matey, sure it is… the record industry had nothing to do with writing that legislation.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Copyright laws have been around for ever.
And media format has never bound those laws.
"…this thing which tells time."
The Digital Millenium Copyright Act has been around forever?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
I am unfamiliat with it. But copyright laws in general
have been around for centuries (?)
and medium has never limited those laws.
"…this thing which tells time."
The DMCA applies specifically to digital media.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
· Makes it a crime to circumvent anti-piracy measures built into most commercial software.
· Outlaws the manufacture, sale, or distribution of code-cracking devices used to illegally copy software.
· Does permit the cracking of copyright protection devices, however, to conduct encryption research, assess product interoperability, and test computer security systems.
· Provides exemptions from anti-circumvention provisions for nonprofit libraries, archives, and educational institutions under certain circumstances.
· In general, limits Internet service providers from copyright infringement liability for simply transmitting information over the Internet.
· Service providers, however, are expected to remove material from users’ web sites that appears to constitute copyright infringement.
· Limits liability of nonprofit institutions of higher education — when they serve as online service providers and under certain circumstances — for copyright infringement by faculty members or graduate students.
· Requires that “webcasters” pay licensing fees to record companies.
· Requires that the Register of Copyrights, after consultation with relevant parties, submit to Congress recommendations regarding how to promote distance education through digital technologies while “maintaining an appropriate balance between the rights of copyright owners and the needs of users.”
· States explicitly that “[n]othing in this section shall affect rights, remedies, limitations, or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use…”
All this does from what I see is protect ISP’s, Professors, graduate students, and makes illegal specific acts of circumvention pertaining to digital file piracy.
It was still illegal to make reproductions of copyrighted material. This is just more specific.
"…this thing which tells time."
The fact is that technology has made the selling of copies of recordings not a viable business model
I’m pretty sure iTunes, Amazon, and others are making a decent profit off this. People basically are paying for the convenience of knowing a retailer will have any music you want at any time.
Also, another part of making money off music is licensing it for ads, movies, video games, etc. For this, some kind of “record” industry will likely be necessary.
But I agree that easy sharing of music is for the better, since people have an easier time finding smaller acts that suit their musical tastes.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
I was going to mention this.
I’m pretty sure iTunes, Amazon, and others are making a decent profit off this. People basically are paying for the convenience of knowing a retailer will have any music you want at any time.
That record companies have tried to solve the revenue problem using third parties. Pretty effing retarded that they couldn’t do it themselves.
Having said that, I doubt the Record companies make much of anything through third parties, probably just using it to promote.
"…this thing which tells time."
Licensing for commercial use is exactly what copyright is legitimately concerned with…
I believe that the enjoyment of music is a basic human urge and the noncommercial sharing of that enjoyment is fine with me, regardless of what congress has been paid to say…
While this is really interesting, work calls and I gotta go.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, noncommercial enjoyment of
anything is fine. But if that is what the artist wants, they shouldn’t sign distribution deals. Which is what a growing number choose. It’s actually working out quite well. Musicians are able to distribute music with almost no cost, and it is accessible by anyone.
If you create something that people like enough to pay for, you should be able to profit from it. If you want to limit what you listen to to stuff that is free, you have that choice as well. It will be of lower quality in general, but there will be exceptions to that. And in the music industry there are a growing number of exceptions which is great for everyone.
"…this thing which tells time."
The record industry’s sense of entitlement to sitting on intellectual property and raking in billions is more offensive to me than having my friends turn me on to a bunch of cool stuff
Where’s the rage for book publishers and writers?
"…this thing which tells time."
I probably should have said ‘The record industry’s sense of entitlement to sitting on intellectual property and raking in billions in perpetuity’. I’m for a drastic shortening of copyright term and a massive expansion of the public domain.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
I think we probably have different ideas of "drastic."
30 years would be fine with me. My guess is you would prefer something like 1-2 years.
"…this thing which tells time."
Yeah, 30 years sounds reasonable. Create art when you’re 20 – 30 and make royalties until you’re 50 – 60. What is the limit now?
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
Unthoughtknown is one of the best songs they’ve ever written.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
The single makes me want to smile. It’s so boppy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Very few bands work together for more than a few years, so I usually don’t buy new stuff from older bands.
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I agree, but I will say that the new U2 album (minus two really embarrassing songs) is their best in about 15 years.
/auto-defenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know anything about their new album, but based on their music over the last 15 years I don’t think that’s saying a lot.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
I never really dugg'em that much
and all the songs they’ve done for the past ten years at least are pretty much interchangable and radio sweethearts.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
This is not an untrue statement. If I was just learning about U2, I would not be a fan, they really don’t represent the music I listen to. But I have been a fan since the Joshua Tree, they are one of my long-timers, along with Pearl Jam now (although after their last two outputs, I don’t think I am buying another PJ album, and that is sad).
/auto-defenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I agree on both accounts. Plus, WTF is up with a band that once tried to stand up to ticketmaster releasing their album only with Target and iTunes?
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
Seriously. Just another bunch of artists getting comfortable.
On a related note, I just saw a preview for the new Scorsese movie. I think he just made a polished horror movie. Strange choice after you just won an Oscar for the most financially successful film of your career. Wasn’t satisfied with Cape Fear I guess.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Just the one?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
At least it doesn’t take too long!
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Their last really good album.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree. I can name a ton of bands who have least three good albums, which are usually released over the course of 5 or 6 years.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
Yeah, I am think 5/6 years is really the limit.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
no way
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
The
exceptions are great bands. But most music isn’t created by GREAT bands. After awhile the creativity leaves the band, ego are to big and the music is more FOR the band than BY the band.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
This
is very valid.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I have to say, another thing you might say is that if a band stays around for a long time and doesn’t shake it up every now and again (either through lineup changes or anything else), then you could very well be right.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Its not a science just a quick observation.
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
So Arcade Fire,
how deep do they go with quality albums. They are 2/2 so far however the last Neon Bible had some interesting dynamics in that most of the album was worse than the previous with the exception of 2 or three songs that were blow your doors off good. That seems to be a trend for follow up albums.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with this.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
I think you’re missing a third item in your list.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Crazy Mary is the best
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
LoL —> Pearl Jam Guy
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
He doesn’t sound nearly as weird as the lead singer for The National.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
REPORT: Giants Closer Brian Wilson is New Lead Singer for Band Pearl Jam. All Songs to be Covers of Billy Idol or be Thematically About Ninjas.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Not nice.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
the guy from The National has an awesome voice
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
TWSS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
If this thing ever posts...
LOL and hell, yes.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Pearl Jam
bought my hair
all 18 chunks of it
at a junk store
on the waterfront
THE DRUMMER first spotted the item
showed to to THE GUITARIST
(the one with the pitiful hats)
whose name is both hard and bird like but I can’t remeber it right now
and he
really dug it
Of course
they didn’t know who I was
(even though my name was printed on it)
they just thought “hey cool” and
“it’s only 8 bucks”
and THE GUITARIST thought
he could make a pitiful hat out of it
They walked up to the sales counter
and from the other direction came
THE LEAD SINGER
The one who sounds like he’s imitating a heavy metal singer
who is in turn
imitating a previous heavy metal singer
The one whom Grace Slick made her comment about:
“There’s great singers today like Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam, but none of the stations play these bands, so nobody hears them… and their great talents go unnoticed”
and supplemented
“It’s tough out there, these days”
Which lead me to consider the amount of drug she did
and they must have poisoned her mind
and how she sang
We
Built
This
City
On
Rock
and
Roll
and other great gifts to mankind and culture
And how I probably shouldn’t listen to her because
she’s
‘Out of touch’
so pitifully so
that THE GUITARIST should
make her into a hat
- King Missile
Happy Holidays, All!
(and yes, I typed this in because I could not find it in the WHOLE INTERNETZ)
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Correct
Just like most PJ albums.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Pearl Jam>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Green Day>Weezer
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll agree with this, Pearl Jam was is sick
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Riot Act sucked bad
and Binaural was meh, but everything else ranges from very good to “Oh My Bonds!”
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting
You are a fan of the new album, which I think is terrible, and I think Riot Act is their most well-rounded record. Potato potato.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
No Code is the best
Like, by a long shot IMO. Then Vitology, Vs. Pearl Jam, Backspacer, and Yield.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Forgot about Ten.
Almost feels like it was recorded by a different band.
I guess I’d slide it in behind Vs.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
There are some duds on backspacer
but I just freaking love Unthoughtknown, Just Breathe and The End.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I liked Riot Act. I think it was their last album that showed any real signs of creativity rather than just a rehash. Plus, Cameron’s drumming was sweet on that album, but has been pretty uninspired since.
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
Agreed.
/auto-defenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
I think that's fair.
There was a good deal of creativity on Riot Act, I just think it all turned into a pile of grey mud.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
World Wide Suicide
Is the only good anti-war song to come out of this generation, which is kinda sad.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Yeah, politics and punk don’t mix. I’m looking at you Seven Seconds.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I remember when they opened for my friends’ band at the Pony Express Pizza parlor in Redwood City… actually, that was a black out day and all I remember is three little kids that I ignored while working on anesthetizing myself.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Haha, dude, I just listen to old green day all the time, like Minority, basket case, when i come around?
Foxboro Hot Tubs is cool.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Does Weezer have their own Rock Band game? I THINK NOT!!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Yeah, that was my point.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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It was sarcasm.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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(I like Green Day, but I think it’s dumb.)
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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FAUX ATTITUDE SOLD SEPARATELY!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
nice
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I HATE THE POLITICS IN ENTERTAINMENT! Just shut up and be my stooge!
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t mind that they want to say something. And I don’t mind that they want to say it in terms that teens can relate to. It’s important to get children interested in the world.
I just can’t relate to it on any level. The lyrics… the melodrama… it’s all… so… adolescent.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I am in agreement with this comment.
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That probably a better way of putting it
I also heard an interview with Green Day where the lead singer compared the band to Nirvanna or something.
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Also American Idiot really only has two political songs that sort of set the back drop for the overall story. In fact I think you could take American Idiot the song off the album and not change the story much at all.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
I don’t necessarily disagree, but I’m not speaking only about the politics.
The lyrics… the melodrama… it’s all… so… adolescent.
I threw that as a very wide blanket. Boulevard of Broken dreams is pure adolescent melodrama. “I walk a lonely road.” “I walk alone.” “I walk this empty street.” “my shadow’s the only one who walks beside me.” “My shallow heart’s the only thing that’s beating.” “Check my vital signs to know that I’m alive.”
I remember “Wake Me Up When September Ends” being heralded as a “grown up sequel” to “Good Riddance,” but to my ear it’s simpler and loaded with melodrama. “The innocent can never last.” “Here comes the rain again.” (Rain is classic melodramatic cliche.) “Drenched in my pain again.” (Oh god, just count the number of times he says the word “Pain” on the album.) The song actually repeats itself more than Good Riddance!
I could go on. It’s all words like “pain” “darkness” “shadows” “alone” “lonely”… and so on.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
You seem to be saying maudlin adolescent melodrama is a bad thing. ???
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Not if you’re a maudlin adolescent.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
And I honestly enjoy the American Idiot album. I’m not trying to say that it’s terrible. But I certainly recognize it as an album targeted for teenagers that really pulls no punches in that pursuit.
The main “character” is a disaffected youth who considers himself a martyr. Gee, what teenager isn’t on par with that? He feels so alone. He isn’t understood. He tries to solve his problems with drugs while pining hopelessly for girls he barely knows. He’s the fucking Hot Topic variety Everyteen. And I know it. And Green Day knows it. It’s a fun ride. It’s a step backward for the band. Warning was a fucking awesome album that separated the sophisticated adult portions of Nimrod from the dead and dying portions that were still hanging onto that bloated album from the days of Dookie and Insomniac when the band members were actually participants in the demographic that they’re trying so hard now to return to. And American Idiot was essentially a big fuck you to everything that Warning stood for. But it was a fun ride.
What I’ve heard from 21st Century Breakdown is almost unlistenable, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I guess you have higher standards than me as far as lyrics go. I really enjoy that the album has an overarching storyline. The rock opera thing to me is really cool.
Mostly I get annoyed at people who seem to have a knee-jerk reaction anytime an older band puts a out a new album – THEY WERE BETTER BACK THEN!! Or when any band gets a little political – SHUT UP AND ENTERTAIN ME!
I enjoy 21st Century as well although it is a bit much coming after American Idiot. If you didn’t really like American Idiot though then I wouldn’t imagine you would like 21st Century Breakdown.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Yeah we’ve had a lot of MFs being loud during finals week and it’s pissing me off too. I’m just glad I had one exam, one paper, and a video news report due for my finals. Thank god for loading up on music classes, because I finished my final performances a while ago.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 17, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Damn, that’s nice though, it’s weird for my journalism class, i had one citizen journal entry which could be a story about ANYTHING, and be a video, so it was fun. I absolutely loved journalism, and it made me realize how tough it is to really write a story in general. But good for you for finally being done
I’m glad I don’t like basketball… What with football, baseball, and hockey I’ve got all the sports frustration I can handle.
OT!
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
Garrett Atkins signs with Orioles
Sorry if this has been mentioned. Anyway here’s the quote from MLBTR
Jeff Zrebiec and Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun are reporting that the Orioles have signed Garrett Atkins to a one-year deal.
Poor glove, didn’t hit away from Coors, and he only hit nine home runs in 400 ABs last year. He really did have a great season in 2006, but he has declined steadily every year since.
And you know we would’ve paid Atkins based on 2006, since Sabean seems to pay based on a player’s best season out of the last five…
Thank you, oh Lord Baby Jesus!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The quote from the Miami Herald at the top
It sounds a lot to me like the Marlins asked for Dirty, and then Sabean countered with Tanner, and then those two names were reported.
I don’t want to give Sabean too much credit, but that sounds dangerously close to competent negotiation.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Id be fine giving Tanner
rather keep Dirty
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Runzler is my line in the sand.
Ranking < 10 Not happy
Ranking > 9 Pleased
"…this thing which tells time."
Catcher updates
Ken Rosenthal, of FOXSports.com, reports free-agent C Bengie Molina (Giants) appears likely to sign with the New York Mets.
Ken Rosenthal, of FOXSports.com, reports the Colorado Rockies ended their contract talks with free-agent C Yorvit Torrealba (Rockies) and are now looking at other options, according to major league sources. The Rockies were offering $5.6 million for two years and Torrealba wanted $6 million to $6.5 million. Torrealba could re-enter the team’s plans if he lowers his asking price.
Ken Rosenthal, of FOXSports.com, reports the Colorado Rockies are turning their attention to free-agent C Miguel Olivo (Royals), with free-agent C Josh Bard (Nationals) as a fallback option.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Does Torrealba want 2 years?
Cause that could be a problem.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
In terms of the Giants signing him? I don’t think he’s as fixated on getting a multi-year deal as Bengie, but I’m sure he’d prefer it.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Well i guess we could give him 2 yearsHe
would just backup next year. How far away is Jax?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, stick with the plan and give him (or whoever the stopgap veteran catcher happens to be) 1 year. That’s all that’s needed.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Ya
youre probably right
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
Jax is probably close enough to be a no-bat back-up, but the team already has one of those. Also, that is Jax’ ceiling.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
sweet i hope the rox get olivo. One more we can cross off
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
would that put yorvit back on the please don’t do this sabean list
Now batting catcher Buster Posey
my dream for 2010
well he’s better than olivo…i guess
sad that i would be happy with the lesser of the two evils
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 1:57 AM PST up reply actions
Good news
When you google search “giants” with safesearch off, McCovey chronicles is on the first page.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 10:41 PM PST reply actions
/son voice: " You have bad grammar"
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Purely educational
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
I heard that is the warning (for educational purpose) you get before every porn movie. I only heard that, I’ve never seen one.
"meh"
I wouldnt know. I dont watch porn. Im only 17. I dont even own a computer.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 16, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'll show you love like you've never seen.
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by victor frankenstein on Dec 17, 2009 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
CJ Wilson tweets from Zito’s event:
Brian wilson singing billy idol white wedding BRAVO
LOL
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
We should sign Ricky Davis just so they get some of his nappy bud.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
You want a
Clip or the whole three minute plus extravaganza?
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
I never say no to extravaganza.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
‘excravaganza’
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That I might pass on.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I would pass it on as well… first rule of plumbing and so forth.
Still, not meaning to discourage shanghaijim from posting it…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
I FOUND TEH PROOF:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeBDvh0hg_8
Maybe “singing” isn’t quite the right word…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I see ‘excravaganza’ was the appropriate word after all.
As an aside, that video is the perfect example of why I used to strongly discourage the use of auto-focus when doing introductory camera work seminars for the volunteers at PCT (channel 26 in Pacifica)… pet peeve of mine.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
OT
is it just me..or is the comment thread slowing anyone’s computer down tonight. i can barely scroll up and down. never happened before.
Not just you. I think it’s the new NFL Network ad. I’ll put an e-mail in.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 16, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it's pissing me off
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by bondslegend on Dec 17, 2009 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
1,000 comments on each daily thread. In the middle of December. Grant, hope you’re getting paid for this.
"It's too late now."
WITH SABES SITTING ON HIS HANDS.
actually, that’s probably why. his reasoning behind “lunatic fringe” is incorrect; but the description may in some ways be apt.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
WITH SABES SITTING shitting ON HIS HANDS.
fixed
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 17, 2009 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
NUKE! YOU WERE RIGHT THE TACO MADE IT GREEN TODAY!
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Angel Villalona
He needs a change of scenery (especially if it’s from a jail cell and not the Giants’ organization) so why not include him as a wildcard in a deal for Uggla?
Because he isn't allowed to enter the US
and who knows when he will be.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t see how this makes any sense. Give the kid a chance to enter the country and play baseball again before thinking about trading him. He has a ton of talent and will still be very young in 2011.
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The Dodgers have started exploring a possible trade with the Cincinnati Reds for pitcher Aaron Harang, according to multiple baseball sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the talks.
The Reds are asking for one or two players on the Dodgers’ major league roster in return.
The Dodgers would want the Reds to pay for a portion of the $15 million Harang would be guaranteed if he is traded.
I’m guessing Sherrill is in the deal?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Yankees Continue Talks With Nick Johnson
By Tim Dierkes [December 17 at 9:00am CST]We’ve known of the Yankees’ interest in Nick Johnson since at least December 7th, when ESPN’s Jayson Stark put them among seven teams to inquire. Today, George King of the New York Post has a little more detail on the Yankees’ interest.
King says the sides are discussing a one-year deal, which is important to note since Johnson was said to be seeking two years. Said Johnson’s agent Rex Gary of the talks:
“We have had dialogue, things are moving forward. Something could happen to speed things up, but it’s hard to predict.”
Given Mark Teixeira’s presence, Johnson would spend most of his time at DH. King suggests a Johnson signing might eliminate the chances of Johnny Damon returning. Johnson would be coming home if he signed with the Yankees – he was drafted by them in ’96 but traded to the Expos in ’03 with Randy Choate and Juan Rivera for Javier Vazquez. Interestingly, all four players involved in that six-year-old deal were productive in 2009.
Johnson, whose .426 OBP this year leads all free agents, is also known to have interest from at least the Mariners, Giants, and Red Sox.
/cries
for the love of all that is holy, just give him 2 years.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 17, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Didn’t they use to have Johnson?
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
I saw a Yankee fan comment: Get him! He is product of our FARM!
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
PORKINS!!!
(That was for Lars.)
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
So, we’re all in agreement, then? No NJ on the Giants now that the Yankees are negotiating?
No NJ, no Cameron, but lots o’ Sanchez.
So glad we signed Sanchez for 2/12 so early in the offseason.
Could have had Carrol for 2/4.
Carroll 2008 1.5 WAR in 402 PA .277/.355/.346
Carroll 2009 1.5 WAR in 358 PA .276/.343/.340
F’Chez 2008 0.3 WAR in 608 PA .279/.298/.373
F’Chez 2009 2.3 WAR in 489 PA .293/.326/.416
Why?
Sure Sanchez MIGHT have a better avg this year, but he wont get on base more and he’ll slug just a little bit better, maybe. And he’ll also probably spend some time on the DL.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
So we blow 2/12 on Sanchez
who is a year removed from a .298 OBP he spread over 608 PA like I fine patina of fecal matter, but we can’t go 2/15 for Nick Johnson who is actually good and gives the team what they don’t have.
I HATE THIS ORG!!!!!!
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
And add we go and offer Scott Effing Podsednik a contract.
I HATE DIVIDENDS!!!!!!!
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
A SLG Advantage Of .27 To .76 Is Hardly "Just A Little Bit Better"
In fact it is bigger then the OBP disadvantage of .17 to .57. Further, ignoring Sanchez’s previous two outstanding years is clearly cherry picking the data to support the conclusion you want to draw. It is frankly silly to try and suggest that Carroll might be the better player.
by giantsrainman on Dec 17, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Where did I ever suggest he'd be better?
The money is the thing. You could add another offensive upgrade or sign Aroldis Chapman with the difference.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
dnw Aroldis Chapman
to be quite honest.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Aroldis Chapman does not make the 2010 SF Giants better.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
There are a miriad of ways in which one could spend 8 million
That was the point. I don’t particularly want him either. RISKY, and yeah, he doesn’t help us now.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
I have sunken to the depths of Hell
I have reached a point where I wouldn’t retch if the Giants signed Porkins and Damon to 2 year deals.
Holy crap…
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 9:59 AM PST reply actions
If show any of these sign, contact your doctor, as you may be suffering from Giant Fandom.
*Warning- Brian Sabean may cause suicide
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
TWSS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
I still love Porkins, but I’m worried Damon’s HR power will completely disappear upon arrival to AT&T, and then shortly after, as pitchers realize it, his OBP too.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I also hate his on field fashion and ADHD style approach in the box.
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by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I’m worried Damon’s HR power will completely disappear upon arrival to AT&T, and then shortly after, as pitchers realize it, his OBP too.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I have to wonder why Porkins’ OBP does not suffer even though he doesn’t really hit for power?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Because he has good strike zone judgment.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Is Damon known as a hacker?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Damon has gotten more patient in his old age, but he’s nowhere near Johnson. Johnson only swung at 34% of pitches last year. That’s about 10 points below league average.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Damons doesn't hack
I wouldn’t really be worried about his offense declining on arrival, but I would avoid him completely due to his defense. I don’t understand how a guy as fast as him is so bad in the OF.
My impression from watching the playoffs is that he’s really not that fast anymore.
Back in the olden days he always seemed like he was one of those guys who looks good in a corner, but OMG NO in CF.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
He’s always had a good eye, but yeah, I’m a little worried about that happening to him too.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Giants Need
THIS.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Can we see a contrast with Aaron Rowand, or Fred Sanchez, maybe Eugene Velez?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
PikAGiant.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
I meant Pick a Giant
and his swing chart will look like a big turd.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Actually is it UNholy crap. But yes I get what you mean. I am also pretty sure there is a Demon Porn joke to be made in here somewhere.
/ resumes conditioning self for Jacobs & Olivio.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 17, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Uggla
Some thoughts:
Work out trading them freddy + middling prospect and some cash (like 4M) and then sign NJ. This would give the Marlins a 2B for 2/8M who is decent and it allows us to keep our decent prospects and it gives us a place to put Uggla that keeps his bat production worth the crap defense.
Some will argue “So you are going to pay Uggla 8M and then send 4M? Uggla isn’t worth 12M total.” The only defense I can come up with is that Sabean will most likely blow the 4M somewhere else so it might as well be used to correct a mistake. If you have a menacing child, you don’t give him enough money to buy a rocket launcher, you tie his hands behind his back and let him run head first into the wall while y clean up the mess.
Can't trade Freddy till May I think.
Might be June. Can’t remember, and I left my copy of the CBA next to the toilet.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Actually No Suck Limitation On Sanchez
He was re-signed before his team option expired and thus never was a free agent and thus can be traded at any time. That said, trading him ain’t happening. The date for signed free agents by the way is June 15th.
by giantsrainman on Dec 17, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I know it was just a typo, but I really like the idea of applying suck limitations to players.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
The Giants are waaaaay over their suck limitation cap.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
This is a kind of suck that rules.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
is it just me or...
Is Dan Uggla just Brett Boone the Next Generation? I expect a giant dropoff from him.
/auto-defenestrates
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 10:45 AM PST reply actions
Or is that a Giants drop off?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
That would seem to be the trend
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
AND THAT
So just chill to the next episode.
/moog synth
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
INDEED.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 17, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Facto?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Facto?
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 10:57 AM PST reply actions
Stupid.
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something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 17, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
But wait...
While the Yankees remain interested in Nick Johnson, the Giants have increased their offer and the Mariners remain in the mix, according to a major-league source.
Johnson, as reported by the New York Post, is discussing a one-year contract with the Yankees. The Giants, too, are offering one year, but have raised their offer to the $5.5 million to $6 million range, the source said.
The Mariners also want to sign Johnson for one year, but the level of their financial interest is not known. Johnson would prefer a two-year deal.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
RED SIX IS FUCKING STANDING BY FOR HIS 2 YEAR DEAL!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
GET R DUNN SABEZ
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
GET IT DONE
Don’t let him fall to the Yankees, please!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 17, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
wait
wut
We made an OFFER to Nick Johnson?/?!?!?!? Stunning. What is this sensation I am feeling… is it surprise? faith.. .hope?
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Also
Source: Giants haven’t given up on Beltre — 10:48 a.m.The Giants are remaining in contact with Scott Boras regarding free agent Adrian Beltre, one major-league source said Thursday, but the sides aren’t close to a deal.
The person indicated that the Giants and Boras remain some distance apart on the years and dollars it would take to sign Beltre. Sources have indicated to FOXSports.com senior baseball writer Ken Rosenthal that Beltre is looking for a four-year deal worth at least $40 million.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
According to a commenter in another thread regarding Beltre, Brian Sabean has his mancrush in Larry Baer’s mouth, and some juicy stuff is involved.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Don't get too excited
It’s just Gushers fruit snacks.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I'd be very concerned about a three year deal. Screw four years.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
NFL add was killing functionality
MCC was acting drunk. Not the McCoven, but MCC itself.
"…this thing which tells time."
You don’t know how I’m not acting.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
True. But I was not making any accusations upon any McCoven regardless of
how they may or may not have been acting.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure how to respond.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t understand advertising “Thursday Night foot ball TWICE! Once on Thursday and Once on Saturday” to peopele on a baseball blog in the off season.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Was anyone else effected by the ad? It was killing speed and function for me only on this page though.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 17, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/12/16/1203746/revisiting-the-dan-uggla-idea#27288237
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Oh Isabella,... The apple of my eye... The Llama that got away!
I miss you sweet sunshine! The time we spent grazing along the water’s edge poking fun at alpacas and various creatures of the night.. Oh, let it be I say! Let it be! I wish for once to drool aimlessly amongst the moon-lit hills and dream of the day I will meet you again.. Oh Isabella,.. the apple of my eye…
A poem.
Llama nation!
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 12:43 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
the best one so far
true art
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
alpacas are creatures of the night?
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
I’m thinking of having this printed, mounted and framed.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
You wouldn’t suspect Grant of being such a newb at locking his computer.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
I suggested a ctrl alt Downarrow combo
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 17, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
He actually had a co-worker do some hacker crap to log in with an old cookie. This one’s on SBN.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Also, I did the ctrl-alt-down arrow combo. When I came back into the office, MY FUCKING COMPUTER MONITOR WAS UPSIDE DOWN. So, yeah. There are ways around your trick.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Your boss sounds like an awesome guy.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
He really isn’t. He is absolutely, positively, a grade-A moron. The only thing that keeps him from eating my mouse is the cord that’s attached to the computer.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 17, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Still, you must admit his ALT+CTL+Down Arrow solution was elegant.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 17, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
actually
I am kind of impressed at his dedication.
Also I would not use my work computer for pay pal or ebay or anything, like ever (If I was you)
Fight fire with fire. Get a keylogger installed on his machine. Get ALL his passwords.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Win!
Oh, I missed these so much. You just made my day, bizarro Grant.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This brings a tear to my eye.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
I LOVE YOU, GRANT'S BOSS!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 17, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
I say this at the risk of looking foolish
The Marlins just lost Lindstrom to the Astros in free agency. They have no discernable bullpen whatsoever much less any decent closing options. I say we trade them Brian Wilson for Dan Uggla and whoever else we can get (Cantu? Gaby Sanchez?) and stick Runzler in as our new closer.
/crosses arms and points to sky
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I don’t think they want a guy who’s about to get expensive in return for Uggla.
Also, they traded Lindstrom to the Astros.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I would think they would prefer Runzler to Wilson because of the money.
"…this thing which tells time."
dHid they now?
Hmm, my bad. Still, look at who they have in their bullpen now. I only recognize a couple names because I am a hardcore fantasy baseball player. They need a closer a hell of a lot more than they need a second baseman.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I think they’d probably be fine with testing out the different arms they already have rather than trading for a guy who’s going to make above minimum.
They might be interested in a Joaquin or a Runzler though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I would be cool with that
It’s just that I have a crush on Runzler and Uggla too, so I want them both.
Joaquin can go, as can Bocock/Gillaspie/Frandsen/Downs/insert player we’ll never use here.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says the Giants increased their offer to Johnson to the $5.5-6MM range. Johnson earned $5.5MM this year to finish a Jim Bowden-authored contract signed in March of ’06. The Mariners remain in the mix as well.
by sadison bummedgarner on Dec 17, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions
theyve upped their offer...
so up yours
sorry, someone had to say it
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 17, 2009 1:45 PM PST reply actions
Isn't Nick Johnson productive?
Why would we not offer two years? We offered Sanchez 2/12 without blinking and he is far less productive, and perhaps equally injury prone.
"…this thing which tells time."
I wonder why Sabes is standing firm on a 1 yr deal.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Are they? I wouldn’t want him to be my stockbroker.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
His health might be an issue
He’s never played close to a full season so that’s why nobody is throwing 2 year deals at him, I hope he holds a vegenace towards the Yankees because they sent him to Siberia Expos.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 17, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
BATMAN!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Ishikawa
could well be as good as anyone being mentioned here
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
I do like him as insurance though
I wouldn’t be interested in Nj if we didn’t have Ishi.
"…this thing which tells time."
If you start him up, baby, well he’ll never stop.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
not too worry; cody doesn’t have much pop
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 17, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
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