Baseball Prospectus | Prospectus Q&A: Bruce Bochy
DL: What the Giants need more than anything is a couple of players at the top of the batting order who can get on base. True or false?BB: Yeah, I'd say true. You know, our leadoff hitter, [Eugenio] Velez, there's no question we'd like to have a little higher on-base percentage between him and [Andres] Torres. That's an area that we're looking at.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
GIS for "last name shenanigans" = no dice.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
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My buddy was given the above number from a girl at a club a couple years ago. It is actually pretty funny if you call it. (it is a Long Beach area #)
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
EUGENIO VELEZ, YOU ARE GOING TO BE COME A HIGH OBP HITTER. JUST DO IT, OKAY?
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I want to cry
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by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 5:09 AM PST up reply actions
Eugenio Velez, leadoff hitter, meet Fred Lewis, #3 hitter
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 16, 2009 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
- pinch hitter.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:26 AM PST up reply actions
DAMMIT!
Number 3 pinch hitter.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:26 AM PST up reply actions
Watch, he becomes the leadoff hitter in Florida or Baltimore
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 16, 2009 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
DL: What about the style you like your team to play on the field?
BB: I think that it’s up to every manager to adjust to his ball club. Everybody likes three-run homers, and it would be great to have those guys on your team, but it’s up to you to adapt to your personnel. If that means playing a different type of game, like small ball—bunting and getting guys over—then that’s my job, to work with the guys that I have.
NOT BUNTING ENOUGH
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
BALLCLUB
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Well sure, if you don’t get on base and don’t hit homers, playing for the three-run homer is kinda dumb. But I don’t see how that leads to giving away outs. There’s a middle ground here.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
He said that here
But Bochy’s not really much of a bunting manager. OTOH, IIRC, he’s a big hit and run manager, which is quite a bit worse (bunts are occasionally valuable, the H&R is pretty much universal fail).
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
What is with Bochy and 3 run HRs?
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 5:17 AM PST up reply actions
And stop imagining a power lineup, folks, because it just ain't gonna happen.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 16, 2009 6:49 AM PST up reply actions
What happens if you have a small-ball lineup but they can’t bunt or move guys over worth a damn?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
They’re not really a small-ball lineup in that case.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
What?
Boch knows what OBP is?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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He's down with OPB
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"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
His IT guy explained it to him.
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It realy reminds me of this. The manager of the IT geeks is given “The internet” for a speak to she willl make infront of higher ups. Yes I know her head isn’t big enough but the idea seems the same.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 16, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
that is hilarious
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The IT Crowd is some good stuff. I am pretty sure Netflix is streaming most, if not all, their first 3 seasons. Lately I need a laugh i head to there or Always Sunny in Philly.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
/added to the instant queue
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there’s no question we’d like to have a little higher on-base percentage between him and [Andres] Torres.
By this he means Velez starts in left, Torres starts in right, and somebody with a higher OBP starts in center.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
He only mentioned that there are two guys who need to improve OBP???
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll hold off until Tony Danza.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
I CAN SEE THE RED TAIL LIGHTS HEADING FOR SPAAAAAAAAIN!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I CAN SEE DANIEL WAVING GOODBYE!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
GOD, IT LOOKS LIKE DANIEL
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
MUST BE THE CLOUDS IN MY EYES!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
DL: The perception of your organization is that it isn’t very statistically savvy. Is that accurate?
BB: I would probably argue that a little bit, because of all the information we get. We have a tremendous IT department that gives me all the information I need, all the stats I know, but with that being said, I don’t rely strictly on statistics or managing by the book. I still believe you use your instincts, go by your gut, and do what you think is the best thing to win that ballgame.
We have all these stats, but I do not always get them. These IT guys can only give me the stats I know. Then I take those stats and wipe my ass with them and just go with my gut and instincts like a stretch of 100 ABs.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
We have a tremendous IT department that gives me all the information I need
lolwut
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 15, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Bochy: What’s this fancy stat here?
IT Guy: That’s how often they get on base. I do not know why you keep asking me, I am here to fix your server.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 11 recs
Bochy: Okay, I have another one. What is it that I’m adding to OPS here?
IT Guy: Why is there a sock in the server?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
There is a conspiracy against me!
I pointed this out 3 days ago and didn’t get a green comment! Of course, I didn’t make the point in the form of a two-person one-act. So I guess it’s how you say it, not what you say…
/sobs
Just kidding, I’m glad that I am on the same page as other people. Imagine if Baseball Prospectus said something like this (here comes my one-act – TWSS!!!):
BP: Actually Bruce, the IT department is for fixing computers and software issues. Most advanced baseball stats are actually derived from econometrics.
BB: Je ne comprend pas.
[‘cause he’s a Frenchy!]
/bows. “Pass me my Pulitzer please.”
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I remember reading your comment,
that’s why my comment below says, “I am still floored” because I was still floored from three days ago. I am a noob so I often forget to Green it up.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Sometimes genius just isn’t recognized in it’s own time.
/sigh
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
My first green, I think.
Hooray!
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
/golf clap
Which has all kinds of new meanings with Tiger spreading his seed like Genghis Khan.
Tiger: Why are you itching so much?
Female Spectator: You gave me the golf clap.
ZING!!!
/auto-defenestrates
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Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Q: What is the difference between Santa Claus and Tiger Woods?
A: Santa stops after 3 ho’s.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Q: What does Tiger Woods have in common with baby seals?
A: Both have been clubbed by Scandinavians.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
What’s the difference between a golf ball and a escalade?
Tiger Woods can drive a golf ball 300 yards
Nobody likes money
Too long? Spam alert.
It is near the Christmas break of the school year. The students have
turned in all their work and there is really nothing more to do. All the
children are restless and the teacher decides to have an early
dismissal.
Teacher: “Whoever answers the questions I ask, first and correctly can
leave early today.”
Little Johnny says to himself “Good, I want to get outta here. I’m smart
and will answer the question.”
Teacher: “Who said ‘Four Score and Seven Years Ago’?”
Before Johnny can open his mouth, Susie says, “Abraham Lincoln.”
Teacher: “That’s right Susie, you can go home.”
Johnny is mad that Susie answered the question first.
Teacher: “Who said ‘I Have a Dream’?”
Before Johnny can open his mouth, Mary says, “Martin Luther King.”
Teacher: “That’s right Mary, you can go.”
Johnny is even madder than before.
Teacher: “Who said ‘Ask not, what your country can do for you’?”
Before Johnny can open his mouth, Nancy says, “John F. Kennedy.”
Teacher: “That’s right Nancy , you may also leave.”
Johnny is boiling mad that he has not been able to answer to any of the
questions. When the teacher turns her back Johnny says, “I wish these bitches would
keep their mouths shut!”
The teacher turns around: “NOW WHO SAID THAT?”
Johnny: “TIGER WOODS. CAN I GO NOW?”
"It's too late now."
I started telling this joke to my brother in law
and before the punch line, he supplied his guess:
A: Cause Santa only comes once a year.
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by DrStankus on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Improvement.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Poor guy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
He fakes it with Mrs. Claus.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
What's the difference between Dr. Pepper and Santa Claus?
Dr. Pepper comes in a bottle and Santa comes down the chimney.
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Every time I thin kI’ve heard all the lame jokes, Goofus tells one.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
The hidden third pun makes me have a sad over this joke.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
I am stiil floored.
Just can’t believe that he said the stats come from the IT dept. He’s either completely oblivious to how the piece of paper with the numbers actually gets into his hand or the org is far more effed up than we realized.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
the org is far more effed up than we realized.
But they occasionally sleep at Holiday Inn Expresses. In the laundry room. Drying their socks in the servers. Smoking beef jerky
by E Ticket on Dec 16, 2009 7:00 AM PST up reply actions
I’m going to cut BORK some slack here… IT department could simply be, in his mind, “All the computer/numbers guys”; a generic term he uses to describe computer guys and math guys. At my job, there’s CS Response and ITS — I just say IT guys.
Yeah
but the fact that that’s how he views stats is a problem. It shouldn’t be “those computer guys with the stats thingies”.
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Yes, that is a separate issue that is problematic. It’s not too surprising, though. Most people over 50 — I’m generalizing, of course — probably have a similar view about technology. And, certainly, a baseball player having issues with math and science is not an exception.
Not surprising at all
just irritating.
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Ya I’d cut him some slack too… I work in Management Information Services, which probably would be the department that calculated stats … but I get lumped in as part of IT quite a bit.
Nobody likes money
Okay… I need to wash my head out. I read that “I’d cum in some slacks too.”
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Well, it was never specified what type of company it was.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Look, it comes from some propeller head with a pocket protecter… close enough.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
BALLGAME
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Another mention of going with your gut
DL: Being a former catcher, do you go more with feel than numbers when it comes to bullpen match-ups?
BB: Yeah, probably. Being a catcher, hopefully you have a little understanding of pitching. That’s what you did. You handled the pitching staff when you played, so you probably might go with your gut a little bit more than a position player. That’s not always the case, but I can see that applying with a lot of managers who were catchers.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Its a Bochy-ism buffet!
DL: Would you be willing to use your closer in the seventh inning, in a key situation, knowing that you only want him to face a batter or two that night?
BB: No, because I really believe that it’s important for you to establish roles down there. You don’t want to keep them guessing. They have their way of preparing and getting ready to come in the ballgame, and now you’re starting to shoot from the hip a little bit, and you’re keeping them on edge down there. Even though it’s a critical part of the game, you sign guys to handle that role and you want to keep the bullpen in order. So no, I wouldn’t do that.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
BALLGAME
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
You should have bolded “down there”. That would have been funnier.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Is Actually Dead Nuts Right On
Managers manage people not computers. People perform best when they know what is expected from them and when they can be expected to be called upon to perform. To expect the member of bullpen to be ready at any time with no idea when they might be called upon is the best way to make sure they are not ready to do their best. Humans (unlike computers) can not just turn it on, we need time to get mentally ready and a few pitches in the bullpen warming up just doesn’t provide enough of this needed time.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
I've never been the biggest Bochy fan
but you can’t argue with the way he uses the bullpen, which is his biggest strength as a manager. His bullpens have always been solid, even that one year when Hoffman went down. Remember back when Dusty and Felipe used to burn out everyone in the pen by July. At least we don’t have to worry about that happening while Bochy’s around, and while there are some serious questions to fret over concerning next years team, the bullpen won’t be one of them.
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve never understood the obsession with “you, you pitch the 7th, and you—you pitch the 8th, and you—you’re going to pitch the 9th, but again, only if we have the lead!” An not uncommon situation is to have the heart of the order up in the 8th, with spots 6-8 due up in the 9th. Why on earth would you want to bring in your second best reliever to face the tougher situation?! Why wouldn’t you just flip-flop them so that he comes in to face the weaker spots in the lineup?
If you tell Brian Wilson to warm up in the 7th so he can pitch the 8th, it’s probably the same amount of time as if you ask him to warm up in the 8th to pitch the 9th.
I think there’s a balance and Bochy manages it well. As mentioned in the interview, he’s not afraid to bring Wilson in in the the 8th.
I believe him when he says guys perform better when they know their roles. I think it also creates a little competition when there’s a “pecking order” and guys can move up the ladder based on their performance.
I also believe not all relief pitchers have the make-up to be effective closers. I’ve heard to many pitchers say that when you get to those last three outs, things change. The crowd heats up, your blood pumps faster and adreniline takes over. Some guys thrive on that and other guys wilt. The biggest evidence of this to me is how some closers (like Wilson) do so much better in save situations than non-save situations.
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That is the whole reason for a bullpen. To come in when needed and get the out(s). I am sure it is near impossible to have the same relievers come in the same situation game after game (besides the closer).
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2009 5:53 AM PST up reply actions
HUMANS KEEP TRACK OF THE STATS, NOT COMPUTERS
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HUMANS NERDS KEEP TRACK OF THE STATS, NOT COMPUTERS
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
THE IT GUYS KEEP TRACK OF THE STATS WHEN THEY ARE NOT FIXING THE DAMNED COMPUTER WHIRLYGIGS!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
GIANTS I.T.
WHEELIN’ IT BIG IN THE ATOMIC AGE
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
But what would those computers do with a lifetime supply of chocolate anyway?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, the computers just remind me of that scene in Willy Wonka.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
That is your grandfather!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, “Laundromat” is a proper noun. I think the term is registered or trademarked or whatever.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
How would xanthan know?
He has no use for clothes.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I think going in the direction of the “West Virginia stereotype” is the funnier choice here.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
You do realize relievers used to NOT have roles. They just came in when shit went bad. And, magically, they pitched fine.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
There used to be a lot of CG’s thrown. Damned pitch counts. Timmy is the last hope.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
I think you’re wrong. They actually pitched like crap. All of them. Without exception. You just can’t tell because different era.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Actually Relief Pitching Is Much Better Today Then It Use To Be
The establishment of defined roles has alot to do with this.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Because I say so, dammit!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
The speaker needs higher heels and longer hair. Could probably use a hockey stick and a kif with downs syndrome too.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Probably something there I am not getting
but I have a feeling it deserves Green.
"…this thing which tells time."
Tyler Walker
Took Bochy 4/5 of a season to finally admit that Walker wasn’t very good, and couldn’t perform his “established role” very well.
I guess mine wasn’t Grant-ie enough
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2009 10:05 PM PST reply actions
THE BITCH IS BACK!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure where these are coming from, but I'll keep playing along
STONE COLD SOBER, AS A MATTER OF FACT
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 15, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
I CAN BITCH I CAN BITCH CAUSE I’M BETTER THAN YOU
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Too much cough syrup tonight?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not coughing at all.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
fail
it’s because you’re a mod
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
IT’S THE WAY THAT I MOVE – THE THINGS THAT I DO!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Should have put it somewhere I would see it. A FanShot? What in the hell is that?
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 15, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
It’s a dirty, immoral, sexy porn move.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
It had a great cast though.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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and the lighting was really spectacular
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
Just like me when I broke my arm in the 7th grade.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Damn your black heart
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Fan Shots
location for McC readers to suggest story ideas to Grant’s post-bot
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
DL: Your first year as a big-league manager was 1995. How different are you today than you were then?
BB: That’s a hard question to answer for me, because I don’t think I’ve changed, but hopefully I’ve become a better manager with the experience, as far as dealing with my players and managing the game. Over that time period, you learn from your good and your bad experiences and that’s how you get better. Hopefully I’m a better manager than I was back then, but it’s hard to say.
Har har.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I don’t think I’ve changed
That’s always good to hear from a guy doing this for almost 20 years.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
It's all about consistency.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Dood, how much does Fruit of the Loom cost these days? No wonder he walks around like he has 42 pounds of poop in his pants
by E Ticket on Dec 16, 2009 7:16 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, he admits he would like a higher obp from Velez, but still says he is the leadoff hitter. This is fundamentally wrong. Here you’re starting anyway but for crissakes get a higher obp or you will still bat leadoff so help me God!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
And since he understands having a high OBP player leading off, why in the f**k doesn’t he start Fred Lewis more?
"It's too late now."
because Fred said he doesn’t want to be the leadoff guy.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 16, 2009 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
Did he really say that or did I fall in to the chasm?
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 16, 2009 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
I think he actually did say that
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
and if that's true
that FLEW said he wasn’t comfortable in the leadoff spot – well shame on Lewis. I mean, the guy isn’t getting any playing time. I would think the best thing to do would be to go to the manager and say “play me coach, anywhere on the field, anywhere in the lineup.”
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
By the same token, the best thing for the manager to do would be to say “STFU n00b and hit where I tell you,” as opposed to “STFD and don’t hit again for two months then if that’s how you feel.”
Of course, this probably had very little to do with why Lewis didn’t start more. But I guess it couldn’t have helped. It wouldn’t be the first time a marginal player voiced discontent and got completely shut out of any meaningful playing frandsen.
I mean, playing time.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
agreed
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
And trying to teach him how to be comfortable in the leadoff spot isn’t an option? Mentoring him is less desirable than being a dick?
Fred doesn’t come off like an attitude problem to me… is it not possible that telling the coach about being uncomfortable in the leadoff is a (possibly bad) way of asking for help? Is this why Lansford was shown the door?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Well, my above comment was made under the presumption that Lewis had been lashing out. It didn’t come out until below this comment that he was just voicing concern.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
If Lewis ever said something bad about batting leadoff I almost have to believe it was in the context of " Make up your freaking minds. I been tearing down my swing for months like you wanted me to do to hit 3,4 or 5 now you want me to flick a switch and hit lead off?"
/ poof!
Bad soldier list. This woudl seem the most likely senerio to me.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
He’s never really liked hitting leadoff.
But, I’ve said this before, why his personal preferences matter about this is beyond me.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I’ve seen this mentioned one time by a source that wasn’t him, so I’m not sure how true it actually is.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’ve never even seen that, only people referencing it. But, when I tried to find it, I found the dumbest article in the history of Tim Kawakami.
I was promised lasagna.
Wow.
Today Bonds could walk up to home plate, drop a steamer, and put up an OPS 200 points higher than LOLFRED with said steamer as his only defense against 94 mph heaters.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
OK
Here it is:
"I put him in there (at leadoff) last year and Freddy came up to me and said he wasn’t too comfortable in that spot. That was my hope because he sees pitches, gets on base, has speed. He could be a good leadoff hitter. But a guy has to want to do it."
The quote is from Bochy.
I was promised lasagna.
Of course
Lewis said that last year, when he was actually playing. I’m sure he prefers the leadoff spot to the bench.
I was promised lasagna.
Yes, but Lewis ≠ Good Soldier.
He had his chance.
See: Kevin Frandsen
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
So what we have isa third person quote through the same person that A) can ruin the first persons carrer is made to look bad in public (ie refuted or called out) and B) Who might very well have another agenda by which he is makeing his choices.
Meh.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 16, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know
Doesn’t really matter. Lewis isn’t playing because Bochy and Sabean think Velez is better. That’s it.
Where Fred would be batting had he been playing isn’t that important.
I was promised lasagna.
Unfortunely that is the bottom line.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 16, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
So he wasn’t actually voicing any discontent. He was just trying to touch base with his manager about his personal concerns. I see.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Especially since Bochy claims to be a players manager in this interview. If Lewis had a problem with something & Bochy’s response was “Well screw you, you aint playing then”, then he’s not exactly doing everything he can for his players.
"It's too late now."
Funny thing about life...
The more often and louder some one claims they are something the less likely it seems to prove out that way. There are exceptions but is this one of them?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 16, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Couldn’t one argue that Bochy tried to accommodate Lewis’ wishes by moving him down in the order? I mean, it’s not like they didn’t start the season figuring Lewis was their starting LF.
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Well, yeah, but the thing is that now he’s not playing at all. In Baggarly’s original article, he’s making it sound like Lewis isn’t going to play because he doesn’t like to bat leadoff.
If that’s true, it’s idiotic. If it’s not, then either Baggs completely took it out of context, or Bochy just lied.
I was promised lasagna.
Fred was the problem?
Maybe there was a reason
This is only counting games where Fred Lewis started & is broken down into 3 categories:
1) Early in the season hitting 3rd, 5th or 6th in the lineup: 47 PA .421/.532/.553 (Probably shouldn’t move the guy)
2) The leadoff experiment: 69 PA .200/.304/.233
3) Games started after that (none leading off): 158 PA .246/.323/..408
"It's too late now."
Right, I’m just trying to look at what happened last year. SSS no doubt. Lewis asked to be taken out of the leadoff spot and considering how hot he was before that move, I can see why. And Goofus was right, Lewis did get a shot down in the order after the leadoff experiment (started the next 21 of his 24 games).
I still would have kept starting him over Velez. I’m not justifying that.
"It's too late now."
I think calling it the leadoff experiment isn’t quite right. Didn’t Lewis hit 1st a lot in 2008 (with success)?
I tend to think we’re overblowing where he hit in the order and it was more either a mental thing or pitchers figured him out and he didn’t make adjustments.
I don’t claim to be a pro scount, but to me it got to the point where Lewis looked like he was making up his mind to swing at or take a pitch before it was even thrown.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
If you can do that and stay a league average hitter, playing baseball is a lot easier than I thought.
Who cares? His numbers where pretty damn close to what was expected of him by anyone who didn’t think he’s inexplicably going to turn into a 20-HR machine. His OPS+ was 9 points below the career average. 9. Why are we even talking about “what’s wrong with him”?
I was promised lasagna.
I Think Bochy Has Two Issues With Lewis
1 – His skills are best suited for the top of the order but he says he doesn’t like to hit there.
2 – For whatever reason in 2009 he was virtually a complete failure and driving in runners in scoring position resulting in an very low RBI percentage and thus not a good choice to hit anywhere else in the lineup..
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
1 – So hit him second.
2 – Stupid reason. If Bochy wants believe that, fine. Why are we talking about it?
I was promised lasagna.
2 Is Not Stupid
and something all managers would care about.
by giantsrainman on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Right. Judging a player by 30 AB’s isn’t stupid. You can’t possibly believe that. You may be be bat-shit crazy but you’re not a an idiot.
And I like the fact that you think that if a lot of people are wrong together, it means they’re right.
I was promised lasagna.
He Had More Then 30 ABs With Runners In Scoring Position
That said, managers don’t just look at the stats they also look at what is going on while the stats are produced. For example: Is the hitter taking cookies (deciding before the pitch is even throw that he is not going to swing)? Is he not protecting the plate with two strikes (taking called third strikes)? Is he making any adjustments to what the pitcher is trying to do when the pitcher is bearing down with runner(s) in scoring position? If the manager sees these kinds of things and the hitter doesn’t correct them then the manager would be a fool to continue to put this hitter in these situations.
by giantsrainman on Dec 17, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
I was just trying to figure out what Fred Lewis did in 2009 because honestly I didn’t remember how or where he hit after his hot start. He did struggle, but his career numbers obviously show that he’s one of our better options to get significant plate appearances. If the roster stays the same as it is today, I’d want Lewis starting in left and leading off on opening day.
"It's too late now."
no no
you see the most important thing is for your leadoff hitter to have speed. A high OBP would just be icing on the cake.
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
VROOM!
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 16, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
Mmmm… icing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t get the napkins right… damn it, I will kill everyone!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Not too sure if this was posted anywhere but here is an article from yesterday on Posey
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2009 10:19 PM PST reply actions
Had to click on the link
to make sure it was real. Havent read it yet, but I have a feeling I will be deeply offended and my intelligence will be insulted.
"…this thing which tells time."
yeah I really
expected Rick Astley. Or the Spanish Inquisition, one or the other.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This just made me watch like 20 flying circus videos on youtube
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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
I am so proud to have the entire series on DVD. I pull it out whenever I have the buddies over for some Monty Python Fluxx and booze.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Good call
watching them on youtube made me think I gotta get them.
MEMO TO ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY: That is why it’s smart to put your stuff on youtube, morons.
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
For the most part the series is terrific. There are some definite dud episodes though and in the third season you can see them trailing off with their ideas. Plus no John Cleese :(
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
oh wow
I didn’t know he was gone for a season. Yeah, it wouldnt be the same without him
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
LOLOld
They used to be on KTVU at like 11PM or midnight… not easy to stay up, watch through the static, and persist through some of those Terry Jones weird opuses, like the Icelandic Saga or Deja Vu…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Forward this note to MLB
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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The reporter actually wrote his questions on a piece of paper before hand, then recorded the whole conversation. He was in a coma after Bochy responded to the first question.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
so we discuss the club on a constant basis, including the lineups
DANGER! DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
As a matter of fact, he has an office right next to mine, downstairs near the dugout,
He just gave up his 20. Now it’s time to move in and exterminate.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
A good bullpen makes a manager look a lot smarter,
So how dumb would Bork look if we still had Wayne Gomes?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
OT
I have cleared 6000 comments when I was not looking.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
that's the best way to read McC
not looking
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
I’m now over 25,000 McCC comments. Over 31,000 comments total.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
ok showoff, but how many of them have been updating everyone else about how many comments you have?
Thing A
A few.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
I reached 10,000 last month. Just realized it now
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
over 47,000 total good god
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
15,000 about Fred Lewis.
30,000 about Nick Cave.
2,000+ about whatever.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
that's how it's done, n00bs
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
SPAMMING DOWN THE STRETCH, NERDS!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
*cough*
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Over 6,600 comments total.
Over 4,300 on McC.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 15, 2009 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
I’m at 4,496 err… 4,497. It says I joined in Feb of 08, but isn’t that when the SBN switch happened? I think I joined in 07.
"It's too late now."
If you scroll down to the bottom of your “profile page” it should tell you when you joined.
SBN says June 29 of ’08
the McC icon says August of ’06
I was busy when the change over dealie happened and didn’t update my account right away. I figured it’d work out better for awhile if I just read and didn’t post!
I figured it’d work out better for awhile if I just read and didn’t post!
You got that right
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
somebody's
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
been
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
padding
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
their
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
stats
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Quality, not quantity.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
18,372 on Mcc, 21,457
goddamn. I’ve not even been here 2 years.
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
huh, me too. I really need to study more.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:11 AM PST up reply actions
9300 and counting. I’m going to fail out of school at this rate.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Too bad there isn’t a way to track Average Posts Per Hours Logged On. Or Earned TWSS or Sarchasm Average.
SBN BRASZ NEEDS MORE STATZ, STAT!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Top 5 in TWSS + TWHS, as far as I can tell:
Lars the Wonderer: 242.
Natto: 45.
Cookyman: 33.
howtheyscored: 30.
BaronVanCurrentEvents: 27.
If we do it per comment, I’m 2nd, and pretty close to Lars. I don’t know if I should be proud or ashamed.
Goofus really disappointed (TWSS), only 19.
I was promised lasagna.
How about swearing?
pretty sure that’s one list I’m at the top of.
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
WEARING OUT JOKES IN THE CLUTCH, NERDS!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve really done it that much? And I thought I was showing restraint.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I've stopped abbreviating it.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Lars
my McC Punchline hero!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
zenbitz
46 bitches
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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That’s a lot of bitches!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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A bundle of bitches!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
A slew of sluts.
That may have gone too far.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I guess I should
not forget my commas
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
TWSS isn't an accurate statistic on which to evaluate poster value
It’s far too dependent on comments from other people to have any real use in judging posters.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
4700+ since June
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Dec 16, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
follow up question:
you realize Fred Lewis has a pretty solid .355 career OBP and only slightly less vrrrrrrooooom than Velez and Torres, right?
Thing A
BB: Fred Lewis? You mean the kid from Webster?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
DIAF you Front Office morons
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 10:43 PM PST reply actions
What goes around...
Among players non-tendered on other teams was Giants first baseman Ryan Garko. The Indians traded Garko to the Giants in July for minor league left-hander Scott Barnes. Last week at the winter meetings, GM Mark Shapiro said he’d be interested in signing Garko if he was non-tendered. The Indians are looking for a right-handed hitting first baseman/corner outfielder.
http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2009/12/rafael_perez_gets_contract_ant.html
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I really hope this happens.
Mostly so Sabean’s mismanagement can be put on a pedestal.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Just wait until the trade deadline,
when we need a little more pop out of first base.
Wheeler for Garko!
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
lol
so they get Garko back and keep the trade piece.
2 year extension, everyone!
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:18 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not just that, but they probably get Garko back for CHEAPER than they would have if they had just kept him and gone through Arb. LOL GIANTS.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Is Shapiro that smart?
You think he could forsee Sabean’s blunder allowing him to launder Garko’s salary AND get the Giants no3 pitching prospect?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
They probably thought it was a possibility
not sure they would have counted on it, though.
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I think so. According to Ross Atkins, they still really like(d) Garko, and we’re sort of shocked that the Giants were willing to give up Barnes, who was basically their first (realistic) choice.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Oh man
Sabes: “So, we’re interested in trading for Garko.”
Shapiro (starting high, expecting to be haggled down): “Well, let’s start with Scott Barnes.”
Sabes: “Done!”
Shapiro: “…Really?”
Sabes: “Wait…”
Shapiro: “No, that’s great! Let’s do it!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
More realistically, I imagine Shapiro asked for Posey and Bumgarner, and Sabes countered with Barnes. Which is marginally less stupid, but still very stupid.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
LOLZ
DL: As a former catcher, just how much can you impact Buster Posey’s career?
BB: Well, hopefully I can impact him in a positive way and make him a better catcher and player. That’s our job as a manager, and coaches, to help develop these young players and have them become good major league players. That’s part of our job. It’s what you try to do.
The best way to make him better is clearly to sit him on the bench then send him to AFL, after a full season split between three levels that was preceded by ST, Hawaiian winter league and a short stint in the AZL.
Perfect recipe for success.
"…this thing which tells time."
The best way to make him better is clearly to sit him on the bench then send him to AFL, after a full season split between three levels that was preceded by ST, Hawaiian winter league and a short stint in the AZL.
This, and I wish the people who said he can’t handle a full season would realize this.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
The thing that pisses me off
Because he has played non stop since the start of the FSU season in 2008 and also considering how he is a slow starter and relatively quick adapter, he is certain to be sluggish in ST, the first two weeks. He’ll probably get sent to minor league camp sometime in mid March, because Sabean told us, “they will have plenty of opportunity to prove themselves in Spring Training.”
"…this thing which tells time."
wait hold on
you guys are all saying Velez/Torres shouldn’t bat lead off for the Giants???
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Doesn't matter what we think.
BB: Yeah, I’d say true. You know, our leadoff hitter, [Eugenio] Velez
Sounds very similar to “our cleanup hitter, Molina.”
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
On a less cynical note, to what extent can OBP actually be improved in major league players? Is there some sort of actual evidence base for Bochy’s desire or is he just talking out of his ass?
Enlightening.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
NEEDS MOAR ELTON
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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
WHEN I LOOK BACK, BOY I MUST HAVE BEEN GREEN!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
OBP can be improved. I’m not sure that it’s predictable or something someone can just decide to do and then do it.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Was there any way we could have got Pierre?
I wouldn’t think the Dodgers would trade him within the division. He kills us, so at least he isn’t on the Dodgers anymore.
Why would you want Pierre?
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You wanted Pierre???
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Why the hell would you have wanted Pierre on the Giants?
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
Also Better Then Podsednek
However, having to pay $4m/yr for two years of Pierre I would prefer to just stay with the Velez/Torres platoon. This goes for Velez/Torres platoon over Podsednek at his likely free agent cost too.
by giantsrainman on Dec 16, 2009 1:09 AM PST up reply actions
You're talking about their salaries, right?
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No, there wasn’t. And I wouldn’t have wanted him anyway.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
8 years of peace!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yes!
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 16, 2009 7:04 AM PST up reply actions
Once a fool had a good part in the play
If it’s so would I still be here today
It’s quite peculiar in a funny sort of way
They think it’s very funny everything I say
Get a load of him, he’s so insane
You better get your coat dear
It looks like rain
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 16, 2009 7:11 AM PST reply actions
from "The Blasphemous Revenants of Bruce Bochy, v II"
Les Plack = more chicks
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 16, 2009 7:51 AM PST up reply actions
Heyman adds that the Mets’ talks for Bengie Molina are at a standstill, due to Molina’s demand for a three-year deal in the $20MM range.
LOL Sabes…Ya it sure was a worry that Bengie would have taken arbitration..Fucking moron
I don’t think he’s blaming Pudge, I think he’s blaming the NATINLOLS
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
LOL Sabes…Ya it sure was a worry that Bengie would have taken arbitration..Fucking moron
Are you sure? 3years at 20 million is about 7 mil a year. He would had gotten that much in arb.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
Also why the fuck do you believe anything Heyman says? He just tweets any possible sceniro before anyone else can so he can have DA SCOOPZ!
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
BUT TEH SCOOP IS EVERYTHING IN THE OFFSEASON!!!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Speaking of which, buh-bye Bay?
According to SI’s Jon Heyman, the Mets “tweaked their offer to Jason Bay,” offering five guaranteed years as an alternative. This five-year contract is at a “slightly lower” salary than the $16.25MM featured in their four-year, $65MM offer. Heyman says the Mets are willing to go to five years and $75MM for Bay, which would be a $15MM salary.
Heyman says the Mets focused on Bay in hopes of signing him more quickly than Matt Holliday. However, GM Omar Minaya will now jump in on Holliday and may talk to Scott Boras today. If the Mets have their sights set on one of the two big-name sluggers, competition could come from the Angels for Bay and the Cardinals for Holliday.
ESPN’s Buster Olney feels differently – he says the Mets are currently at four years for Bay but could go to five eventually, and are monitoring the Holliday talks but not actively involved.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Look at the years man not the money..If it was just about the money why wouldn’t Bengie accept the 2 year offer at the same amount..
Likeliness of him getting a 2 year contract in 2011at same price >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likeliness of him getting a one year contract at the same price in 2012
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
Wow brilliant..I can do that too..
Likeliness of him getting a multi-year contract this offeseason>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Likeliness of him getting a multi-year contract in 2011
thats true too. Its just that his one arb year here would be at a price above anything he would have gotten in FA. I think him and his agent knew that.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
How many times did Bengie say this season he deserved a multi-year deal. It was totally a respect thing with him. Was he posturing so the Giants would offer him arb? Sorry I don’t think Bengies that smart.
Bengie doesn’t have to be. It his agent who has to be smart.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
Because players just do whatever their agents say? Riight. Just some notable sandwich picks since those pick “aren’t that big a deal”:
Chris Coghlan
Joba
Julio Borbon
Brett Cecil
Clay Bucholz
Huston Street
Adam Jones
and some guy named David Wright
I love this argument
The list of sandwich picks that never turned out to be anything would dwarf whatever you came up with.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
I would’ve taken the chance on Bengie accepting arb (because in my opinion he was not going to take it) for the chance at a guy who could actually help this team somewhere down the road. Good GMs take calculated risks.
I agree
Just (apparently) not to the extent that you do. Like I said, “It sucks, but meh”.
I am not going to get all bent out of shape because we lost the right to pay some kid a million dollars who has a statistically greater chance of never reaching AAA than helping the big club down the road.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but not by as much.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
TOM BRADY WASN’T A FIRST ROUND PICK
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
WHAT ARE YOU YORKS!!!!!?!!!!!
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
OR MONTANA
OR COLSTON. ERGO EVERY 7TH ROUNDER FROM HOFSTRA IS A BEAST, MARK IT DOWN
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argh
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM
DRUCKENMILLER!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
HE CAN PULL A FUCKING BUS OK
HES OBVIOUSLY AN NFL QUARTERBACK
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Mr. Furious!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Notable Giants sandwich picks:
Conor M Gillaspie
Nicholas M Noonan
Jackson T Williams
Charles E Culberson
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
who cares about them
Not major leaguers!!1111
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
WHERE WOULD WE BE WITHOUT THEM
We might even be in better shape. If we had gotten just one or two picks instead of four, the BRASZ might have been more willing to shell out money instead of settling for signability picks.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I still don’t mind not offering Bengie arb.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the loss of a sammich pick is nothing to jump off a building about. It sucks, but “meh”.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
The loss of a sandwich is worse. I was going to eat that.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
Could you imagine if he was offered arb.
We would all be freaking out about how the contracts negotiations have stalled and he might accept arbitration instead.
I’m still happy they didn’t offer nothing to Molina, just for peace of mind sake..
by NateEveryday on Dec 16, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
He would have had to make up his mind on 12/7. We’d know by now whether he accepted or not.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
Quiet you.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Quick Poll
Better Leadoff Hitter in 2010: Buster Posey or Andres Velez?
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For SF or Fresno?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
SF. But point taken. I think Velez is out of options anyway.
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 16, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
Andres Velez. Posey could be a leadoff hitter later in the year but putting a rookie in the top 5 of a batting order could be disastrous for his development.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
disagree
didn’t hurt panda one bit. Put your best bats where they help the most.
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The great thing about hitting lead-off as a rookie is that you’re guaranteed one AB per game where you can just go up there and look for your pitch. It appears that Buster is already a patient hitter willing to take a walk so his approach would actually be perfect for a lead-off hitter. Just walk up to the plate, look for your pitch, and drive it. It seems to be pretty low-pressure, actually.
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NEEDZ MOAR ABZZZZZ
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Buster Posey
Without a doubt in my mind.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I've heard
that Posey can’t tell the difference between a Salad Fork and a Dinner Fork. So unless he dramatically improves his table-setting abilities in ST, I just don’t seem him fitting into a leadoff role.
The dessert spoon can also be a killer. It totally goes against the table setting grid.
"…this thing which tells time."
I woke up late and didn’t get to shower or eat breakfast.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
LOL HOWIE IS STINKY AND HUNGRY!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
This is fortunate since Howie’s buns are currently sticky.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
And my hair is greasy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR FAILBEARD
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It’s actually a little long. The neck patches need to be shaved.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Like… you have no idea. If I don’t shampoo more than once every 24 hours, my scalp starts to hurt from all the grease.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
I meant once, not more than once.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Me too for some reason
and I don’t even have long hair or anything.
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Same here, and if I use the wrong shampoo, its like a snow storm.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
shyeah
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Me too! (sounds like a disease cluster)
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by shanghaijim on Dec 16, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
GOOD AFTERNOON….in three minutes.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
NOT ON THE BEST COAST.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Does North Carolina count as the east coast? Raleigh to be specific. I was there for a one hour stopover on a flight to, wait for it, TENNESSEE. From Cali.
Let that sink in. I flew from Cali, to NC, then back to TN.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Is that anything like,
Oakland to Burbank to Boise?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
EMPIRE STATE OF MIND Y’ALL WHAT WHAT
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Phl to Phx to Sac
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
That’s not bad at all, who the fuck would want to fly from CINCY TO BOSTON THEN ALL THE WAY TO SAN FRANCISCO, lol flying
WUT? WTF AIRLINE WAS THAT? Read that as Bos to Cincy to SF.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Fight Club Air
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Jet Blue does rule. For like a year, there was a $140 flight from Columbus to NY-JFK. I only got to take advantage of it once, but it was so convenient.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I’ve heard that Virgin America is nice. They have the 21st Amendments canned micro brews on all of their flights too.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Dec 16, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah virgin sounds awesome
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve only flown on Virgin Air once. 1st class to NYC. It was tremendous.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Apparenty they don't serve us here in "flyover country"
elitist assholes.
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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
no virgins in middle america!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone here anything about their efforts to do orbit flights? I heard they were working on this awhile back and it was close to finished. That’d be sweet.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Boston to Atlanta to Charlotte
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Damon to start looking elsewhere
“Chances are no team in baseball will see Damon as a good three-year risk, especially at $10MM+ per year.”
Forgot about Sabean I guess.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 9:03 AM PST reply actions
I see a Giants offer of 2/22 in Damon’s future.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
I can live with that.
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
how sad is that?
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by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
ugh
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Yankees already offered him a Renteria contract. He turned them down.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Think he actually wants a 4 yr! LOLSabes get r done!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
can we say his name like they said mat damon’s name in team america?
Les Plack = more chicks
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 16, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck it
If Bay is off the table, give Damon the 2/22 suggested above. He has the OBP to be a legitimate leadoff hitter. Then trade for Uggla and/or sign Johnson, and things start to look more acceptable around here.
Damon LF
Johnson 1B
Uggla 2B
Sandoval 3B
Sanchez SS
Rowand CF
Nate/Bowker RF
Posey C
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I am starting to have a sad
about the lack of Johnson.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
TWSS
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
11:36am: Interesting tweet from ESPN’s Jorge Arangure Jr. – he has a source close to Gonzalez who believes the player will be traded to Boston within the next ten days.
We were never going to get him, right?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Timmy will be sad to see Gonzalez leave the division
He owned Adrian.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Why is Sabean not in on this?
Gonzalez is cheap they could feasibly add another player as well.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
You’d have to also replace Posey and Bumgarner
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Hence no deal
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
meh
who cares about Fresno?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
win
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Fresno is The Island of Misfit Toys
That is where the rejects play.
I care more about A and AA.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I doubt that the Red Sox will not be sending that much value to SD.
I would let bumgarner go no problem. I know it would be hard to structure a deal without him, but I’d think that Bumgarner and Wilson could be a start.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
I doubt that the Red Sox will be sending that much value to SD. (fixed)
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
I was just looking at the splits
Timmeh – 7 hits in 35 PAs, 33 ABs, .257/.212/.469
Cain – 15 hits in 49 PAs, 44 ABs, .408/.591/.999
Zeets – 11 hits in 45 PAs, 38 ABs, .400/ .395/.795
Cain and Zeets should pay for the ride to the airport, at least.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
He sure see’s Cainer good. On the other hand Ianetta flat out rake’s Tim.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Yep. Every pitcher has his nemesis. So far, Helton hits Timmy better than any of our other starters, too.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
What is Tim’s overall ERA against Colorado? Seems like he usually manages to do OK against them, but I might be wrong.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Career – 3.52
But mostly because of 1 year -
2007 – 2.51
2008 – 4.38
2009 – 1.64
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
That was a 1.64 against Seth Smith, right?
by Every6thDay on Dec 16, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
I hate that guy.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
He came straight from Zeus’ taint. I hate him too.
by Every6thDay on Dec 16, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Giants play the Sox next season
pwnage will be at hand for Timmy
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
None chance.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
How the hell are the Red Sux able to trade for
whatever all star they please? How is this done?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
$$$
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
It's not really money.
They are trading prospects or controlled MLers for Allstars who make pennies.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
See Grant below.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I guess that makes sense.
So maddening.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
They can sign FA that are better than the current players they have so they can trade the prospects they have b/c they don’t need them to replace or produce
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Imagine if the Giants had real players at every position. Then imagine that they were willing to spend a lot of money for any holes they might have. Then imagine that they used late-round draft picks as a way to pay good players not to go to college, which supplements their solid drafting.
If the Giants had a team like that, they’d be willing to trade Bumgarner and Neal in a Gonzalez package.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 16, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
okay mr. tinfoil
that’s just crazy talk. Why not just fly our spaceships to Planet Prospect and pick some players from the All-Star Trees?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
There is a place where they grow on trees?
Are they “top prospects” or the Counterfeit variety like Foppert and Williams?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
I will never understand
why people, in any profession, take pride in NOT growing and learning more about what they do. Why would Bochy NOT want to learn at least a little about advanced statistics? I mean, why would you NOT want to get better at your job and learn more? How ignorant do you have to be to think “no, my way is the right way, I don’t need to learn anymore.” So fucking annoying!!!
So long as the measuring stick is the degree of competitiveness and not the amount of success in the postseason, there will be no improvements to the Giants’ front office. Brian Sabean knows how to field a competitive team. He’s relying on gut, instinct, hustle, grit, gristle and thistle to get the rest, and the higher-ups are fine with a solid return on their investment.
by Every6thDay on Dec 16, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think this is exactly why he is still GM.
Ownership likes the dividends.
This reminds me of something I read in Roger Martin’s “The Design of Business: Blah Blah Blah, insert descriptive subtitle for process based replicants here”
He said something to the effect that, “The last thing I want as an investor is a dividend. I will be far better off as will the company I invest in if that money is put back into innovation/development.”
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Nice way of putting it.
/ tips cap.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 16, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately most investors do. That’s is why they invest. You would think choosing to invest in a baseball team would lead you to wanting to put back into the team, to win, but in S.F. it doesn’t appear that way.
I work with many groups of large investors, multi-million dollar investments, and from my experience, going from point A to B, as long as arriving at point B has significant returns then they are happy.
If getting from A to B you stumble, have major setbacks, don’t meet objectives/timeframes, then everyone in the project is on the line if when you arrive at point B the returns aren’t there. If you stumble through identical mishaps, but reach point B and there are significant returns, then everyone is praised. It’s rather silly.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Have you read Martin's book yet?
You really should. The guy is an absolute savant in my opinion.
This is an hour and twenty, but worth listening to in your car, or while you work out.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not into business. I’m a consulting Geologist. I help put together natural gas plays that make very rich people very richer.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Ahh. Still a good read.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll check it out sometime, thanks.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
This is an investment group though. Greed isn’t so ugly if you can’t put a face to it.
"It's too late now."
Greed is fine.
But being greedy and smart is a lot better for everyone than being greedy and dumb.
Taking this back to the Giants, it’s concevable that if the investors returned their dividends and put them into player development or smart FA and trade acquisitions, they would get a better return on their investment long term, perhaps much greater.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Perhaps long term return is not their goal? I mean, Sue Burns just died, so it is conveivable that her majority share in the team could be up for sale pretty soon.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Long term is clearly relative. I believe the Burns family was invested for a while no?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Since the beginning
But Harmon and Sue clearly loved the Giants. Who knows how their kids feel about it?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
JED YORK
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 16, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
If their kids are like Jed
then I’ll feel pretty good. Jed seems to be taking it seriously.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
this needs green.
Or what their kids need in their own lives? Or how much influance they would have with the stake being divied up and they being of ayounger generation?
The Elder Burns were Giants fans best friends IMHO. to expect their kids to be the same from the get go , no less, is a bit sillly.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 16, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I used to see Sue with her kids at the games FWIW. When I still had an in with front row season ticket holders, that is.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Things like footing the bill for the White Flag Trade in ’97 and all rest realy helped changed the tone of Giatns ownership from the Lurie and Stoneham days. Not many owners seem intrested in doing with with out the huge press realeases or other massive ego strokes. We were rather spoiled for over 10 years.
speaking of Messed up ownership I see the Atrosowner admitts to have haveing tenitive sales agreement whish is the dirrectly contradicts what he said on the record at the time. We really could be heading back to that kind of an oownership group.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Well dumb greed
and maximizing profits short run is often a dumb strategy. There’s a loooooooong list of evidence to support that.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
There's a lot of risk there however, and frankly
they probably don’t think Sabean is capable. So we can see that we have the type of GM who will continually provide the investors what they want—dividends.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Plus I would think that there would be better investments than an MLB team out there. If you’ve got the money to get in on an MLB team you would think you’d also have some sense of pride in your team suceeding.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
You would think
but maybe the combination of being just good enough and guaranteed dividends is sweet enough.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
This seems like the only logical conclusion.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I hate this org.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
"Plus I would think that there would be better investments than an MLB team out there."
I dunno. How much did this group buy the Giants for? What’s the estimated value of the franchise now? And don’t forget about the separate (but very similar) group that built the stadium. These people have made a lot of dough.
"It's too late now."
True. If you consider the dividends as well over time,
which probably equate to a pretty sweet annual income for you and me…
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty sweet to you and me =
NOT ENUFF MONEY to the muckety mucks
by Every6thDay on Dec 16, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, they probably are just rolling it into a scholarship fund for the kids.
or something. Better yet, the great, great grandkids.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
As much as I despise Scott Boris, I think he’s correct about the Giants payroll not being anywhere close to where it belongs.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Oh shit yeah they’ve made a lot of dough, but they probably could have made more in other areas with the same principle is all I’m getting at.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Likely.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Greed is stupidly short sighted self-interest and is not good.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Buffett says the exact same thing. Most people seem to think Warren is a smart dude.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
LOLPHILLIES
In December 2008, Baseball prospectus published a list of the Phillies’ top 11 prospects
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8382
7 of them, including the entire top 6, are gone in either the Lee or Halladay trades.
Admittedly, one prospect, Dominic Brown, wasn’t on the list and is now considered one of their best.
But still… quite a hit to a farm system.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
True,
They will be crying because they gave all that just to lose to the Red Sox.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
They will be crying because they gave all that just to lose to the Red Sox Yankees.
by Every6thDay on Dec 16, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Not so sure. If Sox get Adrian...
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
It's not a lock for the Yankees
+ yuck the fankees
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Didn’t they get two of Seattle’s top prospects in the Lee trade though?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
One of. Probably the best in Gillies.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
those prospects arguably aren’t at the same level of the ones they gave up though
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Not even close.
Taylor >>> Gillies
Drabek >>>> Aumont.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
breaking news?
or Old news?
I heard on KNBR that one of the minor leaguers failed a physical and that the deal might be voided?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
This interview was like a pinata
filled with sand.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
From the Giants twitter; not sure if it's already been mentioned.
Giants Off-Season Rumors: Peter Gammons says Giants offered Jason Bay a 5-year deal but he, “does not want to play in SF, pure and simple.”
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 10:23 AM PST reply actions
BAY HATE THE BAY!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
GAMMONS SAYS BAY WANTS TO KILL EVERYBODY IN SAN FRANCISCO!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, I am glad Bay is saving Sabean from himself.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
He also is drawing an undetermined level of interest from the Mariners and Angels, perhaps could be a fallback option for the Yankees and Cardinals, and would seem to be just what the Giants need, but the Giants are strangely reluctant to sign anyone who might make life easier for Bruce Bochy or the pitching staff.
SAAABEESSS! THEY’RE MOCKING YOU!!!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Well
then fuck you Jason Bay
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
TWIS
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 16, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, I think K-Law said it too. And this guy suspects the Giants may be the ones “leaking” the story…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Baseball players have become so political and non-committal these days… except when it comes to stating how much they do not want to play in San Francisco.
Either this is just a Giant plume of smoke or… people fucking hate this city.
by Every6thDay on Dec 16, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
It’s funny that Sabean would even use this as a defense. I mean, if nobody wants to play in SF, then why should we want to watch?
Hurts the brand = bad for business = lower profits = Sabean fired…
BUT THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN.
/throws self down escalator
by Every6thDay on Dec 16, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Dividends mother effer, dividends.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
down or up side?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
upside could get uggly, like a hamster on a wheel
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Uggla?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
GET R DONE ALREADY!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Cain 4 Uggla?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
One time I was riding an escalator and tripped
I fell down the stairs for like an hour and a half.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
San Francisco has been used by the Republican noise machine for everything that is wrong with Amurrica for quite some time now, so it’s not surprising that some of these guys might have picked up anti-SF bias while attending their Bible-study groups.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm… forgot the ‘as a metaphor’…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
How could you hate SF?
Even if you aren’t an urbanite, The bay area has the best suburban areas of any metro I’ve seen and it’s not even close.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
+1, exception of Auckland or Wellington.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Trying to figure out the downside of Hillsborough, or Atherton, or Pleasanton
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Los Gatos, Palo Alto...
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Santa Cruz
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Actually with their money, Bonny Doon.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Pleasanton sucks out loud
That is, unless you are into endless rows of housing developments.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I like it. It can get hot in the summer
But it’s got some of the best schools in northern CA, and therefore the country.
Nice Geography, not as crowded as all the other places I mentioned.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
And it's not all rows of housing developments.
There are some great spots there.
Want endless rows, try Phoenix. HOLY CRAP. THat place blows monkey.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah anyone seen the latest census on people in LALA land? Epicness on every possible level. No clean water, cell phone towers every 20 ft. That place breeds cancer on the daily.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not into Pleasanton, but it’s not like it’d be my idea of hell. Dublin, on the other hand…
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Pleasanton is full of rich, stuck up asshats.
(lived there for 5 years.)
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
So are all the other towns I listed...
But the players we are talking about would be the same.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Pleasanton?!
Serriously?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I guess it’s more expensive to live here? But these guys will be making millions per year so who cares.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
And it's not more expensive than So Cal, NY, Bos.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
real estate tax sucks ass in CA
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
That's true. But I'm pretty sure it sucks in NY and MA too.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah I hear that one, but I’ve only owned a home in CA, I wonder how much worse it is in NY, if any? And that’s not an excuse when you’re making $10+M/yr.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Looks like Jersey & New Hampshire are the highest
Arkansas and Mississippi the lowest.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Correction, Louisiana the lowest.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Well, they need to put a franchise in Louisiana then don't they.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
The Lousiana Gator Daters!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder how property tax works with Co-ops in NY.
A lot of players probably rent too, if they live in the city.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
At least homes don’t get re-assessed every five years in California like they do in most places.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Texas has very high property tax rates, but it also does not have a state income tax.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
And its Texas.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
It used to be worse prior to Prop 13.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
gah
Isn’t that prop expiring soon?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Try selling your house when that happens.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
nah
probably won’t sell for a while. I like the location I’m at right now.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Same
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
LOLome owner!!!
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
foreclosure sale ftw
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
He probably doesn’t like “the gays”.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
So Ed Wade shouldn’t bother then?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Because if there's one thing life has taught us
It’s that rich people don’t care about getting richer.
I was promised lasagna.
Why would they? They’re already rich.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
DALY CITY REPRAZENT
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Why did I have to be born this way? (a Giants fan)
Why. What did I ever do to deserve this?
"…this thing which tells time."
The Warriors clearly don’t want to have any fans. But the fans just won’t take the hint.
/I’m a Warriors fan.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I have this great product. You want to buy some? Its easy to buy with 56 easy payments of $99.99!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
They just never get it, EVER! Like i’m beginning to think 2007 was a bunch of bullshit, mainly because Nelson gets an extension, and the warriors thus pay too much for players that don’t work. And now? they have a team full of nobody’s, and i say fuck it, trade em all, I DONT CARE ANYMORE, and if they think John Wall will be in the draft for #1 overall, go for it, that wont help, good luck
Well, the Warriors had a Championship in 75.
But a lot of suck since then.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
LOLDER AND LOLYOUNGER THEN ME!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
:(
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I was born in 85 the only Bay Area Championship I have really solid memories from is the 49ers from 94-95..
/cries
by DFAAurillia on Dec 16, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
one good thing about being old is that I have solid memories of 5 49ers super bowls.
On the downside, I am likely to be dead when the 2059 Giants finally break through with a WS win. Amazingly, it’s only one year after Zombie Brian Sabean retires as GM.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I was born in 75, so I guess the Warriors are under my curse.
/deletes all personal info…
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Original sin.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
I… poked a badger with a spoon.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
You spooned a badger?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t get it. I’m actually not Catholic and had no idea that badgers and spoons were part of Catholic dogma…
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I highly recommend watching Eddie Izzard’s “Dress to Kill” if you haven’t seen it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Hmmm… Will check it out. 99% of my understanding of Catholicism comes from Martin Scorsese movies, Kevin Smith’s Dogma, and the musical version of the Spanish Inquisition by Mel Brooks in History of the World Part 2.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
All authoratative sources.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Nobody has questioned my understanding of their faith yet!
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
/added to instant queue
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Slut Benwhalling!
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
God:Where’s the Holy Ghost?
Jeezy Creezy:He’s been running around with a sheet on his head going “HOOOOOLY GHOOOOOST! HOOOOLY GHOOST!”
God:Holy Ghost this is not an episode of Scooby Doo.
Holy Ghost: I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those God and Jesus fellows.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
DL: Your first year as a big-league manager was 1995. How different are you today than you were then?
BB: Back then the players were on Greenies and Steroids, now the players are on Adderall and HGH. Back then I never used a computer and i never use one now. Back then I used to use my giant head to crack walnuts. Now I’m more into cashews.
I read this as velez is leading off and torres is hitting third and we need a higher obp guy between them… that really scared the crap out of me
I bet this will happen next season more than once.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Yep. Boch sounds exited at the possibility of having them both in the same lineup.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Who is going to play SS and 2B
when our dynamic 17 million dollar middle infield is on the DL?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Rohlinger. At the same time!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
REDEFINED
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
SUPER(F)UTILITY
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
.245/.295/.380
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Veristile.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Do you mean VROOOOM?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds about right.
.295 might even be a tad high.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
all batting leadoff
Torres gets off to a slow start and so Velez ends up getting the majority of the ABs against LHP as well as RHP
And Fred Lewis hits .260/.350/.400 off the bench and remains the ire of every SFgate commenter
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
It’s a vicious cycle.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
It’s amazing how many GIS results for “vicous cycle” are not even a little bit funny.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention the ire of the all the McCn00bs.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Bill James:
.272/.318/.383
I think the BA is a little high.
On a related note, when my wife is watching the Giants, Velez hits about .400/.400/.650. So yeah, my wife needs to watch more Giants baseball. She always says to me, “I know you say that Velez sucks, but I just don’t see it!” Then I get grumpy.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 16, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Garrett Atkins Has Three Offers
By Tim Dierkes [December 16 at 2:04pm CST]
Newly non-tendered corner infielder Garrett Atkins has offers from “at least three unidentified clubs,” reports ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick. Atkins’ agent, Jeff Blank, told Crasnick his client is open to first or third base.
Crasnick speculates on the Orioles, Twins, Mariners, Giants, and Rangers as possible fits for Atkins. Talking to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun, Blank admitted he spoke to the Orioles. He said Atkins “is just looking for an opportunity to be a starter.”
What would be an appropriate offer for Atkins – perhaps one year and $3-4MM? Will he hold his own offensively away from Coors, and possibly in the American League?
It just keeps getting worse
WHERE ARE THE STAIRS?!?!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
GIANTS LINKED TO MATT STAIRS
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
WE CAN DREAM
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean will feel like he robbed Colorado.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like a Sabean move
A dumb ass one
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
.300 hitter!!!
Two years ago.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I hate Manheim Steamroller.
More like Manheim Turd Roller.
Someone actually had the nerve to give their christmas album as a “gift” one year. Can you believe that?
"…this thing which tells time."
Not as a joke or anything? That’s cold.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
A good friend with good intentions.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
I guess you just smile and say thank you.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
And then manroll their steamheimer.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Fortunately they were not present when I opened it.
My wife said it was “sweet”
"…this thing which tells time."
Apparently, one of the 462 players involvewd in the Lee/Halladay deal has failed their physical.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 12:21 PM PST reply actions
Wallace?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Does anyone else think the A's are getting the best ROA?
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
no, i agree
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Then Seattle.
Then Toronto.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
You think Toronto over Philly? Even though Philly got Halladay AND a bunch of prospects?
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
They gave Lee, Taylor, and Drabek.
That’s the Giants equivelant of Lincecum, Neal and Bumgarner, and it’s not that far off collectively.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
And D'Arnaud (too?)
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Toronto had to trade Halladay though and they got a better collection of prospects than Philly (though I think they should have kept Taylor.)
And you could argue that Halladay isn’t a big enough upgrade on Lee to justify trading Taylor, Drabek +
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
In all honesty, I am not completely sold on Lee being an Ace. He hasn’t had the consistent career like Halladay. He is great, but I want to see more than 2 years of good work before I call him an Ace and pay him like one.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
his HR/FB has been very low the last two years, though that shouldn’t be a problem in Seattle.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Especially as a lefty.
Toronto and Seattle came out like bandits, Philly looks to have gotten hosed.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I’m just a hater. I wouldn’t mind having him on a team but he seems streaky.
Also he is not worth CC money. I would go 7/100 at the most
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
If Halladay's second half is the beginning of decline,
this deal could screw them for a long time. I don’t think it necessarily was, but…
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
What?
He had a lower ERA in the second half last year than he did in the first. And similar walk and strikeout rates.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Sorry.
I missremembered.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
He did only go 7-7
so the MSM probably thinks he declined.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
THat probably influenced my misperception unfortunately.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'll make sure I get the stats from the IT guy next time, before I post.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I like Seattle “in this thing”
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Taylor would be in my top 5 overall.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
OT: RIP, Roy Disney
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-roy-disney17-2009dec17,0,5129215.story
Roy Edward Disney, the nephew of Walt Disney whose commitment to his uncle’s creative spirit prompted him to mount revolts that led to the unseating of two of the company’s chief executives and a revival of the studio’s legendary animation unit, died today. He was 79.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM PST reply actions
So does the anti-Semitism die with him?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
joking BTW
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
He also lived off cubans…
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Cannibalism is not the answer
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
LOL.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
:(
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Anyone else think Winter Wonderland by the Eurythmics is a bad idea?
"…this thing which tells time."
Holliday music sucks balls.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I actually dig some of it, but not because it's holiday music.
Ray Charles has some nice holiday stuff. And the Vince Guaraldi stuff is excellent. Then there’s the old-old stuff from the 19th century.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not opposed to anybody's music before their at bat
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Paul McCartney’s kills me. And I like Paul.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Not as bad an idea as Winter Wonderland by Bob Dylan was.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
We need a satirical Holiday album.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSs3FyeThM0
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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there are a few…. look up “Punk Rock Christmas” on amazon
IIRC there’s a song called “Santa drank all our Christmas Money” or something like that…
“The Night Santa Went Crazy” by Weird Al.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
This while funny seems to be more lampooning.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
(linked to above)
Also Christmas at Ground Zero.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Holy Crap that cd is going for $40 now? sheesh… I wonder where the hell I put it.
With such memorable hits as:
Fuck Christmas
Home Christmas and …
I stand corrected…
the holiday classic:
DADDY drank our Xmas money – I knew somebody had.
Songs are available for mp3 download too
Daddy Drank Our Christmas Money by TVTV is my least favorite song on that fine collection.
In 1979, my best friend got the Punk Rock Xmas EP by the Ravers on White (and red and green) vinyl and for two Catholic school kids it was beyond cool… man, am I old.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
I don't have that but:
“Fuck Christmas” by Fear
http://www.last.fm/music/Fear//Fuck+Christmas
and
“Grandpa’s Last Christmas” by The Vandals
QhkA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzf8cZ_QhkA
Wow, they did a whole album.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Honestly, Bob’s comes pretty close.
There’s no way Must Be Santa isn’t meant as a joke.
My dad also used to have songs called “Chipmunks Roasting on an Open Fire” and “Walking ‘Round in Women’s Underwear”.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I think this is more what I had in mind
Any links to this?
Honestly, Bob’s comes pretty close.
There’s no way Must Be Santa isn’t meant as a joke.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 16, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Must be Santa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus&feature=fvst
Women’s Underwear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foybsDsn5hk
Chipmunks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc&feature=related
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Definitely what I had in mind.
Must be Santa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus&feature=fvst
"…this thing which tells time."
God, it’s so funny. Bob wandering around like a drunk old man in a wig through the most nightmarish Christmas party ever.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I remember hearing “Women’s Underwear” on 94.9 when I was a kid.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
sorry I can't find the video...
but the winner is: Dysfunctional Family Christmas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y70fIx2_sE0
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
The only christmas music worth buying/listening to is Elvis and the Bing Crosby
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Bing and David Bowie doing The LIttle Drummer Boy" is pretty good.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Ella Fitzgerald begs to differ
Check out her Swinging Christmas.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
OT: LOL Dodger Divorce Saga
Dunno if this has been brought up yet, if so, sorry.
http://deadspin.com/5427375/forget-it-jake-its-dodgertown
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Giants scouts watch Escobar session.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 16, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions
Matsui to the Angels 1yr/6MM
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
It kind of makes me wish we had a DH spot….but then I realize that we’d probably be in year 2 of a 35mil/4 year contract with Frank Thomas right now.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
According to the Miami Herald:
During the Marlins’ Dan Uggla trade talks with San Francisco, Giants players who were discussed include right-hander Jonathan Sanchez (8-12, 4.24 ERA; no-hitter last season); lefty Clayton Tanner (a top minor-league pitcher) and a midlevel pitching prospect.
I wonder who the midlevel pitching prospect was.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
LOL “RHP” Sanchez
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Jonathan’s right arm for Uggla!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 16, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
what
Freddy “Sanchy” Sanchez throws RH
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
I’d give up Tanner for him.
Obviously, Sanchez should not be part of the deal.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I agree, Uggla is not worth Sanchez. Plus, dude threw a no-hitter. I’d keep him on the team just to see it maybe happen again
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
LOL.
lefty Clayton Tanner (a top minor-league pitcher) and a midlevel pitching prospect.
Read as Midevel pitching prospect
"…this thing which tells time."
New sig.
Clayton Tanner: Midevel pitching prospect
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Scratch that. I missed reading the word “and.”
Adopted Giant: Clayton Tanner
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 16, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
‘medieval’?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 16, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
there’s no way they mean all three of those for Uggla.
No way.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
This is, after all, Sabean we are talking about
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
They have to though, since those 3 players all have wildly different values. I guess Tanner and midlevel pitching prospect are pretty similar.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
MIDLEVEL PROSPECT = ZACK WHEELER
/scared
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
He can’t be traded, thankfully.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Argh! my pessimism in Sabean’s methods knows no bounds!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Well, not really, it could mean the conversation went, “How about Jonathan Sanchez?” from the Marlins guy and then the Giants said, “How about Clayton Tanner or [midlevel pitching prospect]?”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Very true
And that’s likely how most of these crazy rumors get out.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
i hope!
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Of biblical proportions.
Dear Santa Claus;
Please hurry and increase The Sabean’s Booze, Blow and Broads Fund quickly.
V.R. daveinexile
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Is the writer inferring
a package of all three was discussed? If so, hell no.
"…this thing which tells time."
I doubt all three. My guess, either Jonny (straight up) or Tanner + Mystery Prospect
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I prefer mine less tan, actually.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
I would do that, but i think Sabean is forgetting that the Fish seem to be “desperate” to unload Uggla, and plus we’d have to contract him and arbitration etc, though…Sanchez is also up for arbitration if I remember correctly
Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 16, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
EME?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 16, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Still dreaming
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
epic
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
at least he's not that loser alex smith
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
he's lile Matt Cain
Needs to learn how to win
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Man, there’s one commenter right now at NinersNation who I’m trying to make feel stupid enough to leave. But it’s not working.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
oh who is it
want me to help? Unless of course you’re talking about me.
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
mdeasy. Something tells me he’s not a real M.D.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
I am not a doctor.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I don’t believe you. It says right there.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, reading his comments and
Wow
oh the colts yea they got 1111111111 and over 11-12 maybe years in the league your great pass happy manning snuck one through.
oh the colts yea they got 1111111111 and over 11-12 maybe years in the league your great pass happy manning snuck one through.
oh the colts yea they got 1111111111 and over 11-12 maybe years in the league your great pass happy manning snuck one through.
oh the colts yea they got 1111111111 and over 11-12 maybe years in the league your great pass happy manning snuck one through.
what
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Inorite
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Huh?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Well, you don’t seem to be getting the hint.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 16, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Alright Frye!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 16, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Somehow they have 4 wins
And somehow, three of them came against Philly, Cincy, and Pittsburgh.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
It's like when an older brother is beating up on the younger sibling
and that younger sibling gets a cheap shot by kneeing the older brother in the crotch
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 16, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
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