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Future Free Agent Mistake Power Rankings, 12/15

The offseason is quickly dividing the fanbase into two camps:

  1. No moves is good moves. The longer we’re not hearing about a four-year deal to Adam LaRoche, the less likely we’re ever going to hear about one.
  2. WHY AREN’T YOU DOING ANYTHING, SABES? THE MARINERS JUST SIGNED CLIFF LEE AND WE DON’T EVEN HAVE AN OFFER IN TO (hitter) YET?

In the interest of ruining that first sentence before I get a chance to back it up, I’m somewhere in the middle. When I watch the Mariners get a one-year rental to drastically upgrade their team, a part of me secretly envies them, even though I wouldn’t want the Giants to follow suit. They have a shiny new toy. I like shiny new toys. Scott Podsednik would be an itchy sweater made out of possum fur, but you knew that.

The big deals aren’t the only ones that are making me jealous, either. The Blue Jays acquired Michael Taylor from the Phillies for Roy Halladay, and then they turned right around and traded Taylor for Brett Wallace. Hot prospect-for-prospect action! The rarest kind! And while I have my guesses as to who came out ahead (the A’s), we won’t know for a few years. But right now, each team has a shiny new toy. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t trade Madison Bumgarner for Justin Smoak, but it’d be interesting, at least. We’re halfway through December, and we’re without any interesting. I could use some interesting.

You know what else is interesting? Scott Podsednik on a two-year deal. That’s interesting like a kitchen fire. Maybe interesting isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. I’m scared of interesting and the Giants.

So with no news directly relating to the Giants, but with plenty of news reducing the options the Giants have in free agency, it’s time for another Future Free Agent Mistake Power Rankings. Who will be the Aaron Rowand of 2011? Well, Aaron Rowand, for one. But maybe he’ll have some overpaid company!

Star-divide

  1. Scott Podsednik -- OF --

Number one with a bullet. A signing that in the best case provides marginal upgrade while swallowing most of a limited budget? Oh, sure, I’ll take two. I think it’s disturbing that a team could seriously think about Eugenio Velez as a leadoff hitter and corner outfielder. More disturbing? That Velez could outproduce the Podsednik from ’07 and ’08 with his thumbs taped together. But don’t worry: when 34-year-olds drastically improve, those gains usually stick. Or is it the other way around? This baseball stuff is confusing!

  1. Adam LaRoche-- 1b --

It’s hard to be this high on the list when you’re a player who would improve the team over the internal options, but LaRoche’s ridiculous contract demands, combined with merely decent production, makes this a great chance to rowand the Giants into a corner by the end of the contract.

  1. Marlon Byrd -- OF --

With Mike Cameron off the market, Byrd is one of the better center fielders, and it’s been almost two years since Sabean has signed a center fielder. His palms are sweaty, his mouth is dry, and his sponsor isn’t returning his calls. Mmmmm. An overpriced center fielder sounds pretty good right about now, especially when you’re still kicking yourself for missing out on Gary Matthews, Jr.

  1. Jermaine Dye -- OF --

Sabean explicitly mentioned Dye as someone the Giants aren’t interested in. But I think that’s like when I tell my wife something like, "No, I don’t even really find Jessica Alba that attractive. Her earlobes aren’t symmetrical, and you know how I am about that." I have trust issues with our intrepid GM.

  1. Mark DeRosa—3B/LF --

At the right price, I’d welcome DeRosa. He’s not going to get the right price. DeRosa’s decline last year might have been age related, but it might have been a BABIP-influenced fluke. I sure as heck wouldn’t commit millions to the latter theory, but if he’s starting in left field instead of Velez, I might be able to ignore the horrible contract for a year. And it will be a horrible contract.

  1. Jason Bay-- OF --

He says he has no interest in the Giants. The Giants say they have no interest in him. There are still rumors floating around that the Giants really are interested. So when I read that Bay said he’s not interested in San Francisco, I’m guessing he said it while doing that money pantomime thing, rubbing his thumb and fingers together while he raises his eyebrows and gives you that look.

  1. Garrett Atkins -- DH --

I’ll admit, the 2006 and 2007 versions are intriguing, but chasing after past glories only makes sense if it’s cheap. That, and Atkins is the worst defensive third baseman in the history of the game. Would it be in poor taste to suggest that Ron Santo has better range, even today? Yes? Okay, then I won’t write that. But Atkins is an abomination. Maybe he’s better at first, but he isn’t that likely to be a good enough hitter to displace Travis Ishikawa. I’d take Atkins over Ishikawa, but only for a few hundred thousand dollars’ difference.

  1. Inconsequential Sub-Mediocre Free Agent Catcher -- C --

It’s going to happen, so the exact one – Miguel Olivo, Rod Barajas, Mike Sadek – doesn’t really matter. And as long as it isn’t a two-year deal, I can almost accept it, but you know whomever they acquire will play 150 games under Bochy. In GiantsLand, a catcher can make up for a .290 on-base percentage by calling a good game and handling a staff, so there’s no question that SMFAC will be more valuable than Buster Posey next year.

  1. Johnny Damon -- OF -- ↓

He can probably still hit, and he isn’t Scott Podsednik. Heck, I think I might be in favor of a Damon deal at this point. The only problem is that if he’s going to take two years, he’ll probably just take it from the Yankees.

  1. Hank Blalock -- 3B? --

No one is talking about him, and that scares me. I can imagine DeRosa, Nick Johnson, and LaRoche all taking other offers on the same day, leaving the Giants in a Garkoless panic.

I guess these rankings are, by design, doom-and-gloom. Maybe that’s not fair. But the Giants and free agency in the past few years have mixed like diarrhea and first dates. So, please, forgive me and the black cloud over my head.

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I’m somewhere in the middle, too. I glad the stupid hasn’t exploded out of Sabean’s brain yet, but the lack of doing anything is driving me a little bit crazy.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

Have yuo forgooten the rush to sign F. Sanchez alread? That was pretty stupid.

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Dec 15, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

True enough.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

But it’s not on the level of some of his past offseason blunders.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, let’s review. Trades a relatively top prospect for a guy who’s injured and who the Pirates were willing to give away for a bag of chalk dust (never minding the fact that they could’ve kept the prospect and signed him as a free agent at the end of the season). Then, once the season is over, he announces that he might just exercise the 1 year $8M option, even though it didn’t vest, thereby reducing his negotiating leverage severely. Once that was accomplished, he rushed into a 2 year deal to sign him, even though it looked like there would be better, and possibly cheaper, options on the market who better fit the type of player that this team needed.

That’s a whole bucket of stupid in a very short time period.

Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???

by oldrips on Dec 15, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You don’t need to convince me it was dumb: I was right in the middle of the freakout here when that trade went down. Most of that didn’t happen in the offseason, though.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That freakout was pretty funny, by the way

We were all counting down to the deadline, generally positive about the Sanchez trade because the rumors were about guys like Jesus Guzman and Kevin Frandsen. Then the deadline comes, and there are rumors it’s Tim Alderson…and the crowd swiftly turns on Sabean in a serious way.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I forgoot noothing!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren’t offseasons supposed to be fun with dreams of your team signing the next big thing that will propel them to the Playoffs and a WS berth?

I don’t want to play this game anymore.

Toe the Line Haft!

The Giants can’t do a heck of a lot if they woo a player who doesn’t want to come to San Francisco. If you believe Peter Gammons, and most of us “baseball professionals” (see opening question) do, the Giants were prepared to give Bay the five-year deal that other teams were reluctant to offer. But Bay apparently has no desire to nestle where little cable cars climb halfway to the stars. And Holliday has given no indication that he wants to be a Giant, though his agent, Scott Boras, is obliged to rouse as much interest as possible.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

He puts “baseball professionals” in quote marks because he doesn’t actually know anything abot baseball.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Gammons was played

Sad that Gammons didn’t recognize it. Pathetic but expected that Haft didn’t either.

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

What makes you think Gammons was played?

by Dan from NM on Dec 15, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Over/Under

4 of these guys that the Giants will sign

by Gobroks on Dec 15, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

4? nah, we can only afford to give out 1, 1 at the most, 12 million dollar contracts.

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

that should read 2 at the most

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

How come all the players we dont want are the ones being considered?

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SCIENCE

by CB30 on Dec 15, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Because we’re the lunatic fringe.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way

The team’s record since Sabean dismissed anyone who criticized his moves as the “lunatic fringe”:

2004: 91-71
2005: 75-85
2006: 76-85
2007: 71-91
2008: 72-90
2009: 88-74
Total: 473-496

Good job, Sabes.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Small Sample Size!

Oh, wait.

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

we were 88-74 last season? Goddamn, it seems like it’s been so long

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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

But how many MEANINGLESS games did we play?

Ha-HA!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

109

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

NL R/Game Ranking

04: 2
05: 15
06: 9
07: 15
08: 15
09: 13

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

meaningless games per season > runs scored per game

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Dec 15, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers anyone?

The Giants should have shipped Sabean and kept Coletti!!!
I was pissed when he got away.

by CplaneLawr on Dec 18, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

WE are Pedro Feliz.
Egro Pedro Feliz is the lunatic fringe?

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

But Pedro Feliz is also Brian Sabean

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by boonitez on Dec 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Fringe?

I used to think that a lot of the fans were “lunatic fringe,” but I am just amazed that Bradley is a Mariner, Johnson a Yankee and Sabean is the lunatic who can’t get anything done.
I can’t see a team with Lewis and Rowand on it…but we will….and it is becoming clearer and clearer that the Giants are going to end up with Ishikawa at first, either a disaster at catcher or a not ready Posey, a not quite ready Bumgarner as the 5th, and another season like last. It sucks. I DO, however, not have a problem with the Sanchez deal because the Gmen weren’t really contenders anyway and Alderson (although he might have been able to be part of a better deal) had lost velocity and not progressed and was no longer considered to be an “elite” prospect. I do believe that having Sanchez in the lineup, healthy, will be a GREAT improvement. Now we need to find 20+ HR’s each from 2 players not named Panda and we can compete. Hmm….NOPE, won’t happen because they aren’t there (unless Schierholtz plays everyday, but then don’t think he quite gets there —15-18 more likely).

by CplaneLawr on Dec 18, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Sabean is running the show.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

/8 year extension

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

/sharpens pitchfork

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They should make an electric pitchfork. All this stabbing is making my arms tired.

by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Might I suggest a cattle prod?

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Sabean is ruining the show.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Well played.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously. WTF. I look at that list and it makes me want to vomit. But sadly, this is as creative as Sabes can get.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

A co-worker of mine saw that Juan Pierre went to the Sox, and I was glad the Giants didn’t get him. I then got accused of not wanting anyone in free agency. Which isn’t true, but not necessarily way of base.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Dec 15, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, Juan Pierre isn’t even a free agent.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

2 Players To Be Named Later = Neal and Wheeler.
Just cuz we would.

Petey and Fresh always dunking on Spartans,
Biscuits in baskets from Heatley and Thornton,
Bam-Bam and Gore on the way to some rings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

by beat_la_25 on Dec 15, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I might have made up the free agency part… I believe he said I just don’t want the Giants to get anyone.

Again, not horribly un-true. Until there’s a smarter GM than Sabean, I don’t want the Giants to overpay (cash or player-wise) for anyone!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Dec 15, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone overpays, just the Giants (even before Sabean-can you say "Rennie Stennett) have been better than anyone else at it…except for the Yankees, but they don’t have a budget so it doesn’t matter.

by CplaneLawr on Dec 18, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

GRANT YOU DAMN BETTER RETURN SABEAN’S CALLS!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

How could you write this without consulting them first?

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Scott Podsednik would be an itchy sweater made out of possum fur, but you knew that.

So incredibly true.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

Well I actually thought he would be more like a hedge hog sweater.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

More like road killed possum. Hedgehog just makes me think of Ron Jermey and I would rather not at this point.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

wha?

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

huh?

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Hedgehog is a Ron Jeremy nickname.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah.

I find it funny that the caption on the main picture says “Positive Image Award.”

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

lol, I had not noticed!

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

And he has the same birthday as my dad. This just keeps getting better!

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Please don’t tell me you dad has a very hairy back as well.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

lol you’re lucky because he doesn’t.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd ask, but...nahhh.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Porcupine sweater

I think it has to be porcupine….like Pryzinski deal (which I decried at the time-I told everyone I talked baseball with that Nathan should be the next closer-before the deal went down AND I ranted about it when it did go down….thought Torrealba should have been the #1 catcher at that point anyway).

by CplaneLawr on Dec 18, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Dear Santa Claus;

Please increase The Sabean’s Booze, Blow and Broads Fund so he can stay comtose and out of his office tell April. Thank you much and i promise I will bea better boy if i get this gift.

- daveinexile

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Howabout Santa just cutting out the middleman and sending the booze, blow, and broads directly to the lunatic fringe. This way we’re distracted while Pods ranges the outfield.

I'm up... everyone move in!

by NastySlurve on Dec 15, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Because I can get thsoe things…sometimes.. but not a world series ring!

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Santa can just run Sabean over with his sleigh…

by crazedcrustacean on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like the basis for a song

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he only makes deals while on the booze?

by Fresburg on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabes makes deal with cat!

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

LOL GIANTS

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

Yankees don’t want Bay either

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

OT: Selig to Chair New Committee on Baseball Changes

14 person committee to possibly shake baseball to its foundation. One last hurrah for Selig to ruin baseball before he leaves?

Fanshot

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

- Makes three WC per League
- All playoff games will be played in the AL
- Brewers and Royals will switch leagues.
- Salary Cap of 80 million (Except for Red Sox and Yankees)
- Instant replay only to benefit of Red Sox or Yankees.

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

DH in both leagues? Hey, let’s sign Johnny Damon to a four-year deal, just in case!

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not a DH fan

But if they want to standardize the leagues, they should just adopt a rule where no player can accumulate more than 100 ABs as a DH in both leagues or something.

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHA…like MLBPA would allow that!

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys see the thing about the NFL’s lawsuit and how they’re lobbying to be designated a “single entity”? Now that’s scary.

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I see

So they’re lobbying to be legally defined as a monopoly. Then good old Sherman can tear the Devil’s Sport a new one.

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by Bhaakon on Dec 16, 2009 2:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Not a single rep from the Giants on that committee.

WHY IS BOCOCK?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Too busy sitting on their hands.

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by cheno on Dec 15, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t like how some of the arrows are pointing up

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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

The thing that worries me the most, well actually, it worries me all the time about the Giants org, is that a bumbling move WILL happen no matter what. Whether it be by attaining shitty FA’s just for the sake they are there, or we give away Bumgarner for Russell Branyan or something.

The waiting around part is killing me about Sabes. I’m picturing him in the basement of AT&T Park on his laptop, getting a kick of making the lunatic fringe sweat, while chit chatting with Jermaine Dye’s agent.

Someone send Theo Epstein a memo that it is okay to sit on your hands.

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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Podsednik is easily worst case scenario. Would not mind DeRosa, still hoping for Holliday.

by Cheeeese! on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

Holliday at this point is a pipe dream

He already has a nice offer from STL and I don’t think SF will even match it much less top it, let’s just enjoy DeRosa and his bangin’ wife.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I read somewhere the players (or maybe some random voters) voted that he has one of the hottest wives in baseball. Couple that with Pods’ wives, I don’t see why I’ll even watch Timmy pitch while I’m in her the lower boxes.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps, but if all I have to dwell on is the possibility that Sabean legitimately thinks that signing Podsednik would be a good move, and wasn’t fired immediately for bringing it up to Neukom, then I’ll keep dreaming.

Ignorance is bliss, as they say.

by Cheeeese! on Dec 15, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

which will come in handy on Hot Wife Heritage NIght

I'm up... everyone move in!

by NastySlurve on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d like some bobble head giveaway that night.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 15, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m guessing the head stays still and something else bobbles

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by Goofus on Dec 15, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Too easy

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Guess I should have said “boobles”

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by Goofus on Dec 15, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

beat me to the punch line!!!

by CplaneLawr on Dec 18, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You know how politicians and/or Tiger Woods usually drop some bombshell announcement late on a Friday afternoon or right before a holiday in an attempt to blunt criticical reaction to said announcement’s?

I’m calling it right now that Sabes signs Pods or LaRoche or someone even more horrifying late on December 24th, forcing the McCoven to spend Christmas Day creating angry, invective-filled Fanposts.

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by Kitspool on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

More Horrifying that Pods or LaRoche?

Pods and LaRoche for a grand total of 50 Mil.

by Gobroks on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Well there is that Madison for GMjr trade he could pull off Dec 24th….

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by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait… Did I just read that you’re saying trading Madison for Gary Matthews Jr. would be buying low on GMjr? And he’d be stupid not to do that? I can’t help but feel like that’s not what you meant, or you must have meant it sarcastically.

Did I just fall in the chasm?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Dec 15, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I like how the sarchasm has fundamentally changed the real spelling of the word for some people.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t like it!

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Misspelling is sooo 90’s.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

In Iowa City we used to call these “Ejaculate and Evacuate.” You know, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing.

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s where I know this from. I saw a couple of these in Anamosa, IA this year.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

There used to be one in Dundee in Omaha, but now it’s a Philip’s. I miss it, even if I always felt really dirty buying booze there.

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

$1.06?

More like sooo 80’s

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by Bhaakon on Dec 16, 2009 2:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate when my sarchasm-o-meter is all broken.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Dec 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s much worse to have a broke orgasm-o-meter.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that something that helps you figure out if someone your with is having a real or fake orgasm? Because ignorance could be a good thing.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 15, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It lets you know when you’re having one.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what I responded with

And in a New York minute (no offense, Mark).

But as to Grant’s larger question: yes, this is the time of year I cringe whenever I hear a sports reporter say “A big trade in Major League Baseball today…..” or “Another free agent has come to terms with a new team…” I am desperately hoping that daveinexhile gets his wish, and that Sabean remains comatose this off-season. That would accomplish two things: (1) avoid the inevitable patented stupid free agent signing AND the likely head-scratching trade, and (2) perhaps get Billy Bowtie to wonder what it is that Sabean actually does, and could somebody maybe do it better?

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by Lyle on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Just do something already Brian

Go ahead and sign that overpriced FA hitter, either you’ll get props if he does well in 2010 or we’ll cry about it all season long and start looking for the next overpriced FA come next December.

I actually want to see him sign a LF first, I would rather watch Ishikawa at 1B with his slick glove but poor plate discipline rather than Velez in LF with his not so slick glove and poor plate discipline. Oh and start Posey!

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

Ishikawa’s plate discipline isn’t that bad. He walks about 8% of the time, basically average. The problem is his horrible contact skills that lead to a high K rate.

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know

8% is below average for a position player, and his O-Swing rate is around 28% (average is 24%). I’d say he’s below average. But obviously it’s not his biggest problem.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The O-Swing rate is only a little high. The big problem is that he only makes contact with 45% of those pitches.

BTW, where do you find averages for O-Swing, Z-Swing, etc?

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Fangraphs mentioned them in an article once. All I remember is that the average O-Swing is around 24.5%.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

"That look" from Bay

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

looks neither gritty nor gamer… Bays not heading here for sure….

I'm up... everyone move in!

by NastySlurve on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

GIVE IN TO TEH GAY SF BAY-BEE

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

"Did you shit in my hat again?"

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by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

OT: Continuing from last week, just saw this one.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

red sox

 i’m terrified that epstein is going to give boros the finger about beltre, and sign n. johnson to play first.

by giantdonkey on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

Memo to Theo:

Take Matt Kemp too while you’re at it, add a little bit of Justin Upton plus a side of Troy Tulowitski.

[evil laugh]

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I want him.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If I know Theo Epstein

He will sign Bay or Holliday, have Cameron back up a broken JD Drew, and trade Jeremy Hermida for a new gorilla suit

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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

i lol’d.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

too late

Johnson is Yankees new DH

by CplaneLawr on Dec 18, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Why did the Phils get rid of Lee?

plz, someone ’splain that one to me!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

He wants too much money

…and I hear he’s up for FA after next year.

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by Lyle on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Cause they got Halladay on a three year extension and could not afford to keep him and Lee. Plus they needed some prospects back after clearing it out for Lee last year and Halladay.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Halladay is a better pitcher. It’s been close the last couple years, but Halladay has had more WAR every season since Lee came up.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

And like I sadi before, I hate this argument, he has face the Yankees and Red Sox’s about 20 times in the last two years. Cliff Lee only faced them 5 times.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Err, doesn’t that strengthen the argument that Halladay is a better pitcher?

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it annoys him that it's true

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate the argument that he pitches in the NL East. But it does count.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

by the way bondslegend, since i couldn’t really get it in there on the other thread… yea, the defense is stepping up with pass rush… but they’re inconsistent

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Did it sound like I was disagreeing with you?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If you had said, “I hate this argument, BUT he has…” I would’ve gotten it.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

True.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You were saying you hated his argument. So yes.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand...

That means he faced the Orioles 18 times a year too.

by crazedcrustacean on Dec 15, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I am pretty sure Halladay did not start against the O’s 18 times a season.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

This too.

I am glad though. Lee destroyed the Giants whenever they played the Phils. Not saying against Halladay they will fare better. But I will take the unknown chance.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Halladay’s one of my favorite non-Giants, so getting to see him face the Giants will be both cool and painful.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

This is completely anecdotal and I have no evidence

But I always felt like last year we did better against Aces than we should have, and worse against mediocre pitchers than we should have.

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Backe in 2008.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

 backe…. i’m suprised sabes hasn’t traded for for the giant killer yet, ala mark portugal.

by giantdonkey on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s a free agent this year!

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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh

I thought it was the 2009 game against Randy Wolf, who made us look like idiots. Both re-enforce the point, I think.

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

With no stats to back it up, I completely agree with you. We did good against Aces, but the no. 5 pitchers we faced all looked like Sandy Koufax.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually looked it up for a post I never got together. They did slightly worse against the starters with top-20 ERAs, but not as much as one should expect.

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Lazy reporting.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that is the key. What we are remembering is the difference between what we expected from them going into the game and what we got in the game. When facing aces we got much more than we expected (probably b/c we expect a no hit shut out) and when facing 4/5 guys we fared much worse (probably b/c we were expect 3 runs).

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There have also been times when the two things – shut down by a mediocre guy, hit an ace well – happened back to back. This year, as I recall, the Giants had a series with the Mets where they hit Johan Santana fairly hard but barely scored a run the rest of the series.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

We had a lot of threads here, after a series against a team ace and then two journeyman, where the posts started “If you had told me that we’d score [x} runs against [ace] and be held to [-x hits] against [AAA-emergency callup starter]….”

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by Kitspool on Dec 15, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It seemed like pitchers hit us really well last year, but I have no idea whether that’s true.

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by Goofus on Dec 15, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

I wonder if there’s some way on the internet to discover opposing pitcher’s batting statistics against us in relation to the rest of the league….

/runs off to b-r to try to find it

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn Gallardo.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn Zambrano.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at that game :(

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at that game. :(

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at that game day thread. >:[

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at that game with a bunch of friends.

When Gallardo stepped up to the plate, one of my friends said, “If he hits a home run here, we all punch Keefer in the face.”

Needless to say, my friend Keefer got punched in the face. A lot.

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by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at that game

and I punched your friend Keefer in the face as well, even though I had never met him before.

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by Kitspool on Dec 15, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

So THAT’S why I punched that guy in the face.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

How can I get in on this? punching my dog in the face is getting kind of old.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I was at that game. It was on that terrifically hot day in SF in April. Afterward I took the N straight to Ocean Beach.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Painful vs Lee also, so if you think about it that way, should be cool!

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard that they were on the same FA timescale, so it sounds like the Phils wrapped up some early negotiating. Even though I thought Lee was phenomenal for the Phils, they appear to have a shrewd GM.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Halladay at only three YEARS! Thats a good deal. Plus Halladay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lee.

What I don’t understand is why didn’t they work out a trade with Oakland to get Wallace to give to Toronto? They probably could have kept Taylor if they had.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants equivalent of this trade, from the phillies perspective

Tim Lincecum and Madison Bumgarner and Nick Noonan for Zach Greinke and some moderately inspiriting relief prospect and a couple other dudes.

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

 phillies blog people are like WTF? they gave way too much in prospects + lee

by giantdonkey on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Umm…no

  1. Phillies definetly upgrade
  2. Giants would downgrade
  3. Phillies have a Dominic Brown to their Taylor. Giants have nothing to their Madison Bumgarner.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

If Lincecum were a free agent for next year, Greinke were signed for four years, and the Giants were already loaded offensively, you might do something like that, though.

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You Do Not Understand The Impact Of Lincecum's Impending $384 Billion Arbitration Result

The Giants must ship him now.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

We will weed that out later.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec’d

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Grant, is it just me or are you participating in the comments more often lately?

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Llama man must be tending to his llamas.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know. Not intentionally, or anything.

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He is taking a break out of his high stakes world of fast cars and faster women to mingle with the common folk.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I've always thought his posts were like tossing chum into the water

…and we sharks go into a feeding frenzy each time. Grant joining the conversation is akin to him eating his own entrails

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by Goofus on Dec 15, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Well there is that way of thinking about it.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that is a nice change from Grant actually eating his own entrails.

WHY IS BOCOCK?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Less sexy, though.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The burger and the smokes are gone

but the bottle rages on.

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by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

You just enjoy watching your little monkeys dance.

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by Kitspool on Dec 15, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And where has your boss been? I miss him.

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I brought this up in an earlier thread, and Grant told me to shut up. I cried myself to sleep that night.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Dec 15, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s been telling a lot of people to shut up lately. I think it’s really getting to him that we like his boss better than we like him.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s also irritated by all the Alex Smith haters.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You know, I really do hate those people.

“I don’t care that Steve Young, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, Bob Griese, and Warren Moon were all Hall-of-Fame quarterbacks who didn’t amount to anything when they were 25. All quarterbacks are either good before they’re 25, or they’re not, except for the lengthy list of quarterbacks who needed time to develop. Why is that so hard to understand? Obviously, Smith is a bust, and last night’s poor performance proves it.

NAAAAATE DAVIS!"

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

blah blah blah blah, YEA NATE DAVIS!!!!!!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Smith is no great shakes

but he has earned himself the starting job for 2010 – with the same HC and OC.
Niners have plenty of other drafting issues to worry about. First OL – then QB.

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by zenbitz on Dec 15, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Different era Grant.

Jim Kelly was pretty damn good in the USFL and was good right when he joined the Bills in ‘86. Young also had a little success (not nearly as much as Kelly) in the USFL, and then was unfortunate to play for the Bucs for 2 years, one of the worst if not the worst team for most of that decade. He showed improvement in his 2nd year though, but they decided to go with Vinny Testaverde in 87, who won a Heisman and had prototypical size and arm strength. Guys like Fouts, Griese and Bradshaw had to deal with very different rules were most teams ran the ball a lot and often threw the ball 30 to 50 yards downfield on most pass plays, which weren’t exactly the most successful plays.

The problem with Smith is that he doesn’t have the talent to put a team on his back and lead them with his arm in any given game. He’s the best they have right now but by no means should he be their long-term future. Even some of those guys you mentioned or others like to mention showed flashes of elite ability even during their inconsistent struggles.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

So if you watched Dan Fouts until he was Smith’s age, 25, and you watched him put up a 10-28 record as a starter, with far, far more interceptions than TDs, you would have wrote:

Fouts has the talent to put a team on his back and lead them with his arm in any given game.

I sincerely doubt it. Quarterbacks rarely have a nice, measurable progression that’s independent of team context, and I don’t think that’s changed across eras. All of the QBs I listed had losing records their first two or three years as starters, and none of them performed measurably above their team record, at least from what I gather.

I’m not saying Smith will be a Pro Bowler or Hall of Famer, but I don’t have patience for the people who are totally discounting his good play this season and focusing on his bad play. He has arm strength. He has athleticism and some running skillz. All he needs is better decision-making (which I expect) and better accuracy on short- and mid-range passes (which I’m hoping for, even if I can’t reasonably expect it).

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s played what… 6 games??? i’m not sure, since taking over? these are the first games he’s played in the last 2 years… RELAX, i agree, he’s getting better, but the decision making has to get a little better, since yesterday was OK, he made good passes, but in the first series he looked a little off, but hey, i’ll take his performance, he can build off it

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Fouts is a bad example to use. The Chargers were pretty terrible when he came on the scene and this is a guy who flourished once the NFL changed it’s rules that opened up the passing game in 1978. Even by age 25, Fouts had improved to the point that he was an above average QB. Of course, Bill Walsh was his offensive coordinator that year and is credited with getting Fouts career on track. After that he became an All-Pro and a HOF QB.

Steve Young had the same opportunity to receive some of the best coaching for his position that anyone could get. And he was able to become a great player because of it.

Smith has played a lot better this year but when he does make mistakes they’re the same ones he’s made all along. He stares down his first read on a play and makes ill-advised throws that end up getting picked off or knocked down. His arm strength is average, his accuracy and ball placement is often poor, mostly due to his mediocre mechanics and footwork which leave him throwing balls that sail high and off-target. Last night for instance he threw a lot of poorly thrown passes and wasn’t making his progressions very well and instead staring guys down which allowed Adrian Wilson to read his eyes and make multiple great plays on the ball throughout the game. Given his talent level (which is average) I just don’t think the Niners should be happy with him going forward.

He’s not a player who can thread the needle consistently. He’s not a guy like Drew Brees or Peyton Manning who if you need them to can throw 40 times a game and win the majority of the time. He’s not even in Aaron Rodgers or Phillip Rivers level in that regard. Rivers for example doesn’t have a strong arm but he has superior accuracy. Often in Smith’s best statistical performances the team doesn’t even win. The good or great QB’s that’s usually not the case.

Now again Smith is clearly the guy to stay with currently. Shaun Hill is not that guy, Nate Davis is not ready to play, and nobody in this upcoming draft is going to be an answer, and there also is not anyone they can really trade or sign that’s going to be much better. One of the biggest things they can do is to get a more experienced QB coach or coordinator that can further the implementation of this spread scheme that Smith is comfortable in. I’m not sure Jimmy Raye is really the guy to do that, but he’s not going anywhere. Maybe they can call up Dick Vermeil to work with him on the side or something, he lives up in Napa making wine and he coached guys like Warner and Trent Green and worked with some of the best coaches in the history of the NFL like George Allen, Bill Walsh, and Sid Gillman.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 16, 2009 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

One of the biggest things they can do is to get a more experienced QB coach or coordinator that can further the implementation of this spread scheme that Smith is comfortable in

no. nonononononononononononooooooooooooo they don’t. They need to stick with the exact guys they have now, because he’s playing better than he ever has, and for once he needs to have the same coaching staff for 2 straight years. WHAT A CONCEPT. Raye has come a loooong way since the beginning of the year, and it’s to the point where it would not be a mistake at all to let him stay on.

Mike Johnson is a GREAT QB coach, and he is the reason Smith is playing so much better. Smith isn’t going to ditch all of his bad habits in one year, but he’s come a LOOONG way, and Johnson is the reason. They don’t need “a more experienced QB coach”. He’s great, we should just hope he doesn’t get stolen away in the offseason.

He’s not a guy like Drew Brees or Peyton Manning who if you need them to can throw 40 times a game and win the majority of the time. He’s not even in Aaron Rodgers or Phillip Rivers level in that regard. Rivers for example doesn’t have a strong arm but he has superior accuracy.

Oh please. “He’s not yet one of the best quarterbacks in the league at age 25”- there’s a great argument for you. Compare Smith’s career path to each of those guys. For one thing, they’re all quite a bit older than Smith. Rodgers isn’t, but he got to sit and watch a functional offense for 3 years.

Even if Smith doesn’t make it to that level (and there’s no way you can say he won’t at this point in his career), he’s still “good enough”, especially considering the weapons this offense has. He’s played 7 weeks of meaningful football in the last 2 years. Considering that fact, he’s done a LOT better than anyone could have hoped.

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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we disagree on:

a) Smith’s arm strength. I think it’s above-average
b) That Fouts and Young being on horrible teams counts as extenuating circumstances, while Smith’s descent into the underworld isn’t a factor

I totally agree on Smith’s accuracy, and I wish I could write that I know he’s going to figure it out. But maybe he’s just the Russ Ortiz of QBs. At least we agree that he should get the snaps for the next year or so.


Often in Smith’s best statistical performances the team doesn’t even win. The good or great QB’s that’s usually not the case.

Come on. So when Smith moves the ball, the Niners lose? That is some weird ass correlation/causation going on. He needs to stop calling reverses on punt returns, and he needs to stop Frank Gore from fumbling. That’s what good or great QBs do.

by Grant on Dec 16, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

One other thing to keep in mind when looking at Smith’s career stats. He shouldn’t have even played after game 3 in 2007, but Nolan shamed him into it. Those numbers should be attributed to the “sore armed” Smith.

He may not ever be an Pro Bowl QB, but I think he’s shown he’s an NFL QB (unlike the guy on the other side of the bay where the jury is still out)

Jet

by joethejet on Dec 16, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

The problem with Smith is that he doesn’t have the talent to put a team on his back and lead them with his arm in any given game.

What does this even mean?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

lol still hating alex smith

anyone who can do that with a straight face after this year is a fucking moron (note to mods: this is NOT, I repeat NOOOT addressed to any individual person). He’s proven that he’s good enough to play in the NFL. Not sure what more you want from a guy after missing 2 years AND UNDERGOING TWO FUCKING SURGERIES ON HIS THROWING ARM.

He’s been awesome.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

banned anyway

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

BAN HAMMAH

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Chasm?

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by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

regurgitating GRM

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Hallday isn't signed for four years yet, the Phillies have to do it.

I don’t like the trade. Lee is younger. Why not just hold onto your prospects and sign Lee when he becomes an FA?

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Lee is younger.

By one year.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

15 months younger, and less success.

FA doesn’t guarantee you a top 5 pitcher, and at a discount. Halladay would have gotten 7+ at 22+ a year me thinks, if he stayed healthy.

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Also the word is that Lee was going to want big free agent type money to stay there. Probably a long term deal. Halladay only is doing a 3 year extension. Gives the Phils more flexibility down the road then a 6 year contract for Lee.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

And the trade won’t happen w/o a extension.

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m guessing that Lee is asking for Zito money, so when the Phillies were sniffing around for a Halladay deal, they asked what he’d want. I have no idea why Halladay would leave a guaranteed $50M on the table, having Halladay at 4/100 beats Lee at 5/120, especially when you aren’t sure that you’re going to be the one giving Lee that money.

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Lee would be type A without a doubt though, so don’t forget that the phillies are also giving up two wonderful draft picks.

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Draft picks are overrated.

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It would just be Yankee picks.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I agree with law wholeheartedly:

They swap one ace for a very slightly better ace in Roy Halladay, whose value over Lee may be as much in his stronger track record as in pitching ability. The price they pay for this small improvement is a major dent in their farm system, trading a superior package of prospects to Toronto for the three players they landed from Seattle in the exchange for Lee. I’m not sure why the Phillies — who were the favorites to win the NL East in 2010 before this move — were motivated to make the trade; yes, they can sign Halladay to an extension and couldn’t sign Lee, but that’s independent of the deals used to obtain one pitcher and trade the other. They might be half a win better in 2010, a whole win at most, but deleted a lot of value from what was a solid farm system before they made the moves.

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by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, but they didn’t want to have to outbid the yanks and sox next offseason for halladay’s services

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

If they indeed are trading Drabek in the deal to Toronto then it’s not as good. If Happ is going then I think they did just fine because they got to keep Drabek and Brown, but it sounds like Drabek is as good as gone.

Gillies is a pretty good get for the Phils in the Lee deal, but not sure about the other two guys. Especially Aumont who was moved to a relief role.

I think the key here is that the Phils have their window only for another 2-3 years at best, it’s probably really only for another year to be a legit WS contender. I’m not sure I agree with their move, but if they felt the need to have an elite pitcher locked up and Lee wants the big bucks then they did the right thing to get something for him.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

gillies is a gamer

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Halladay’s pitched twice as many innings over his career, I would be worried you’re getting a Kevin Garnett type who is good but has a lot of mileage. Lee looked shut down in the playoffs, what more can a team want?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

If Halladay could get on a team that will make it to the playoffs, I think he would produce the same results.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe this is why he was so eager to go to Philly. They are so “in this thing” for awhile.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The M’s are too now though.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

True, but Halladay had a no trade clause and maybe the M’s weren’t offering enough of what Toronto wanted?

Where they even in the bidding for Halladay?

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t trying to imply Hallady was ever looking at the M’s or vice versa. Just throwin’ shit out there.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, I was actually asking if he was.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

if it was me, i’d think that i’d get better numbers in a contract year if i were pitching in a pitcher’s park like Safeco rather than the bandbox of Philly

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee was not scared of that park. That’s why I like the M’s in this deal. He’s a good SP.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s a goodborderline unhittable SP.

fixed.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

He seems to be entering his prime, even if it's a little late

Which may end up being a difference between him and Halladay, who’s probably been at his prime for a whiel.

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by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Halladay won’t be pitching in a contract year for quite some time.

I think it really just comes down to Halladay being signable and the Phillies gave up some minor league value for the certainly having an ace for the next four years.

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by Goofus on Dec 15, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Halladay didn’t want to go to any teams that train in Arizona during the Spring. And the M’s probably had less to offer in a trade compared to the Phillies.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Your latter point is what I was thinking more of. Philly had the prospects to get it done. The players the M’s gave to the Phils are/were not as good as the ones they gave up for Halladay.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

See?

Halladay ate at Filiberto’s.
I warned you…

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by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

and don’t discount the allure of playing in the Senior Circuit

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t understand why they didn’t just keep Halladay AND Lee.

by Evan on Dec 15, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

If they had kept them both, they could have locked up the division by the all star break, then flipped Lee for a better return.

Probably not. But still.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the thinking is that they wanted to replenish their farm system. But passing on the chance to have Halladay and Lee in the same rotation …

by Dan from NM on Dec 15, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that looks like a terrible deal for the Phils

Aumont and Gillies for Lee? You think they could’ve gotten a better deal if they waited

by Gobroks on Dec 15, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

“No move” is getter than “move just for the sake of a move.” If it’s not something that will dramatically improve the team over the next few years, then march into the season with what you’ve got and hope for the best. The wrong moves do nothing but hurt the team in the short and long term.

Plus, I’d like to see what some of our psuedo-prospects can do with regular play time before dismissing them for more expensive versions of the same players.

But we’re all preaching to the choir…

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by The Nick on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

*better

Hitler was a Dodgers fan.

by The Nick on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hank mofo'in Blalock

Is my biggest fear.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

Oh please i can do better than that. Try this for $16M a year for the next 4 years and prospects!!

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Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny. If they ate some of the contract I’d actually take him.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Some as in 75% I wou ld think about it.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d do it for less than that. He’s not bad.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Were do you play him? 1st base or Dh realy seem to only options at this point in his carrer.

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Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Trade him for rowand

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

put him at SS!

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL!

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Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

2nd base!!!! wait…

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that UZR is the end all be all but the main issue with rent, besides his elbow, is is range and Young have 2 consecitive -20 UZR seasons running. That is like a freaking statue with one leg broke off.

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Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Toe the rubber!

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

1B.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

So he goes from almost a 4 WAR player to almost a 2.5 WAR player. The is say .75- 1 WAR improvemnt of Ishikawa. Figure 1 WAR currently averages $4-$5M. Take out out ever prospects you send back over.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Crystal ball?

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Fangraphs had Young’s WAR ranging from 2.2 -3.9 the last 5 seasons. For the sake of discussion let us say does the 3.9 he did last year. Most of Young’s time last year was at 3rd so subtract the 1.5 WAR moveing him from 3rd to 1st creates. That leaves 2.5 WAR. Subtract Ishakawa’s .8 WAR (since he is the current in house first base place holder) that leaves about 1.75 WAR. Would also have to subtract the likely WAR of whomever is sent over. Considering this is a best case on Young’s rate of decline this could be less than a 1 WAR improvement very quickly.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah fangraphs, they have the crystal ball.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

lol. They have the data.

 I stayed away from projections here, if you had not noticed, I just figured he would do as well has he did last year.

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Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

He won’t be a Giant anyway. So screw it.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

GG WINNER!

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG. I just read a CNN headline as “Teacher Cuts Child Brains In Class”

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

EWWWWWW, actually cuts brain? fucked up dude

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what the high schoolers are calling studying these days.

“Goin’ to the library, dad. Goin’ to cut brains with Madison.”

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

HA! damn, it’s almost, just almost how it feels going to study, brain feels terrible afterward

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

No it was braids. but I read brains.

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by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

“Cuts brain” is a euphemism the kids are using these days. I’ll let you figure it out.

by Rorsavelt on Dec 15, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m 21 and still can’t figure it out, alot of the kids that come up with these terms are getting pretty dumb… i mean, LOL, and ROFL, and all that shit came up when i was a senior in high school, and i just said what the fuck are a you talking about… like bff or something like that, i have no idea what that means

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

abc

Always be cobbling dude.

by Rorsavelt on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL has been around way longer than that.

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bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, LOL and ROFL were in use when I was first on the Internet, circa 1991.

Another acronym that was very common then that you don’t see so much anymore: IMHO. I guess people aren’t as humble anymore.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

guess nobody used it where i grew up in the east bay, but i never really heard about it until late in high school. I would rather explain it than use acronyms

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

the internetz was slow in coming to the east bay

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m still downloading ASCII porn out here in Berkeley

I'm up... everyone move in!

by NastySlurve on Dec 15, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Lucky!

Down in Oakland, we’re still waiting on the local rollout of those new high-speed 2400 BAUD modems.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Every generation thinks they’re new and original…

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Or honest.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they just tend to use other people’s opinions now.

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by groug on Dec 15, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. I agree.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

/golf clap

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I like saying IMF

(in my fact)

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

IN YOUR FACE

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked to use ATM for at the moment, until i realized whatelse it could mean

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by ringleader3 on Dec 15, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

And now you like using it for Ass to Mouth.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS! (wait, does that make sense?)

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by ringleader3 on Dec 15, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

One of my goals in life is to make an unsuspecting co-worker believe BFF stands for something really dirty.

by Dan from NM on Dec 15, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Delgado wouldn’t be horrible.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Delgado would be fine if he can be had for a reasonable one-year deal. He’s still a really good hitter.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

even if it’s a token noah lowry deal where he gets to spend all year on the DL?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

If his names not spelled BLALOCK, I think I’d be OK with that.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

retarded dnw chasm

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Is he still hurt? I thought he was healthy by now. If he’s just going to be hurt then of course you don’t want to do that.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

i don’t know of a lot of 38 year olds that can ride out a 150 game season

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That shouldn’t an issue at 1st.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Weren’t people shooting for 130-ish outa NJ?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Nick Johnson is different story.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Why? 130 outa NJ or Delgado. Why so different?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

B/C sense becoming the starter Delgado has 2 years of sub 130 games.

NJ? He has 4 (less years and 2 years at 131 and 133 games)

I think expecting 130 games from Delgado is much more resonable.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You are missing the point. I thought we were assuming both guys get 130. Obviously, if this shit ain’t hypothetical, nothing is.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

isn’t that llike getting 130 out of renteria and he’s hurt for 75 of those?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

have you seen renteria’s defense? i would think there’s a lot of bending his knees on poor throws and strains when he jumps and lunges at the other ones

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Renteria has the best arm ever at SS.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

BEST SHAPE OF HIS CAREER!

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

NOT INJURED!

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Y'know who really did have the best arm ever at SS?

Shawon Dunston. It was like his one identifiable skill.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

toolsy

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Gary Templeton’s arm was pretty impressive, too

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He had the strongest arm at short I’ve ever seen. Best? Well, if accuracy doesn’t count, sure.

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t really remember if he had accuracy. I just remember the CANNON.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He did not have an accurate arm. At all. He definitely benefited by playing much of his career with Grace and Snow playing first. Those two probably saved him a hundred errors during his career.

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

He played almost no shortstop with J.T. Snow at first. His year as our starting shortstop was 1995, so he was throwing to Mark Carreon, J.R. Phillips, Steve Scarsone, etc.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, you’re right. I was thinking of the second (or third) time around, but I guess he had been made into an outfielder by then.

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

HATE ALL OF YOU

for mentioning Sha Juan.

Sucked real bad going to PBP a few times and seeing Sha Juan out there in LF instead of Bonds.

"…this thing which tells time."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

i thought bocock has the best arm ever at SS?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

No, but

Boarm has the best cock ever

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Dec 15, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Peter Happy.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s going to play winter ball in Puerto Rico, hoping to prove he’s healthy so he can get better offers.

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

This offseason sucks

The worst thing is we went from rumors about marginal players (Pods, Dye) to no absolutely no rumors at all. This scares me most of all.

Noonan. Nooooonan!

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

You want more PODS and Dye?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

speaking of other teams

The Cardinels are the favorites to sign Holiday, which may affect the Giants. Since, they would probably want to shed Ryan Ludwick’s salery if they can in fact resign Holiday. I wouldn’t give up a lot for Ludwick, but I think he’s at least a little better then the outfielders the Giants have been rumored to have interest in.
I could see Bowker and a couple low level pitching prospects getting him.(although Bowker may be just as good as him if given a chance, but that won’t happen)

by NateEveryday on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

i’d rather see nate over ludwick for a full year at the cheaper price

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d take a Ludwick.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

So would I

But it’s never gonna happen, even if the Giants sign some shitty leadoff hitter like Podsednick, Bochy would still play Velez and Torres over Bowker and Schierholtz

by NateEveryday on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

ludwick was putting up a molina like batting average hitting behind pujols until holliday arrived to bump him back to the 5 hole.

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Fun trivia

Who was the Cardinals’ opening day cleanup hitter in 2009?

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. I didn’t see that one coming.

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That team isn’t going to make the playoffs.

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Speak for yourself

I posted animal porn.

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, you post your favorites elsewhere.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions  

is it possible to do worst than dye and PODS?

by sfoakbay on Dec 15, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Shift+A

Still nothing? :(

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

SAAAAABEEEEEESSSSSSS

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You'd think with all the double switches this team does

We could pull off a three way trade

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

BOCHY FOR GM!

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

if that doesn't drive them into bankruptcy and liquidation

nothing will. Chevy Nova returns!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh. I guess the only way this team could be worse is if Bochy was the manager AND GM.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

The mere thought of Bochy as the GM made me throw up a little in my mouth

As dumb, stubburn, and stupid as Sabean is, particularly judging offensive talent, Bochy would undoubtedly assemble the worst offensive team in modern history.
Bochy dream lineup

1Velez
2Torres
3Winn
4molina
5Castillo
6Castilla
7Klesko
8Renteria

by NateEveryday on Dec 15, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs more Giles & Castillia.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Giles is available no? Boch.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s pretty much what i get when i shift+A through mcc, unless there are a ton of OMG, DNW, AWW FUCK! FUCK YEA!! WOOHOO!!!! something like that

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear crickets.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Meanwhile...

Kevin Goldstein’s Top 20 Players for the Next Decade

1 Hanley Ramirez, SS, Marlins
2 Justin Upton, OF, D-backs
3 Joe Mauer, C, Twins
4 Tim Lincecum, RHP, Giants
5 Zack Greinke, RHP, Royals
6 Evan Longoria, 3B, Rays
7 Ryan Braun, OF, Brewers
8 Stephen Strasburg, RHP, Nationals
9 Felix Hernandez, RHP, Mariners
10 Albert Pujols, 1B, Cardinals
11 Prince Fielder, 1B, Brewers
12 Jon Lester, LHP, Red Sox
13 Jason Heyward, OF, Braves
14 Adam Jones, CF, Orioles
15 Brett Anderson, LHP, A’s
16 Andrew McCutchen, OF, Pirates
17 Tommy Hanson, RHP, Braves
18 Rick Porcello, RHP, Tigers.
19 Matt Kemp, OF, Dodgers
20 David Wright, 3B, Mets

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

McCutchen over Kemp?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

What? Nah.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 15, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Easily.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy? Wow, I haven’t seen him as much as Kemp, but I’ll watch more closey next year now. That’s impressive.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

He has a truckload of potential

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Dec 15, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

but i thought kemp had a boatload of potential?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

timmy has a bongload of potential

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Kemps got a boatload of proven.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

McCutchen is better.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Fanggraph WAR

McCutchen 3.4 (106 G)
Kemp 5.0 (155 G)

In 155 Games McCutchen would have put up 4.97 WAR!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s nothing to suggest McCutchen could improve on what he did last year in Pittsburgh.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 15, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

He hit 3, yes 3, homeruns in his 51st game.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Dingerzzzzz@!!!!

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

whatever happened to kevin stocker?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Chris Sabo?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Decker.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

(4 HRs in April 1991, 13 for his career)

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Sorbo?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Gina Torres was on that show. Hercules. Not Andromeda. I think she wasn’t a regular, though.

She was also on Xena. Same role, if I’m not mistaken.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I gave Andromeda a try for a while. It was pretty bad.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Maas.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

(just free-associating here)

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

4. Tim Lincecum, RHP, San Francisco Giants
2010 Birthday: 26 on June 15

The winner of back-to-back Cy Young Awards, Lincecum’s 2009 was even better than his 2008, with both his hit and walk rates decreasing appreciably. Beyond being the best pitcher in baseball, he also is arguably the one whose health can be counted on the most, as he seems like that one-in-a-decade guy to whom innings and pitch counts just don’t matter. By the end of the decade, he’ll be pushing 3,000 career strikeouts — or more likely, he’ll already be there.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet 12 off them run into a career buzz saw by 2013.

I am also predicting Starasburg will become the non-Yankee Joba.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Posey baby

He’s perfectly positioned to dominate this decade.

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs moar Buster.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And Pablo

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Time will tell

THERE’S STILL ONE YEAR LEFT! RAGE!

/jcb9

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 15, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that Rob Neyer article!

by Dan from NM on Dec 15, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

No Panda?

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

No Markakis ? That surprises me.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I like him, but he wouldn’t be in the top 20 of the next decade.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I would think he has a better chance then Fielder.

/ shrugs

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

BODY BIAS!

Yeah, I have a lot of issues with this is list. Is Goldstein a moron anyway? or is that someone else from BP?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It just donned on me Cabrera is not on that list either. I am not sure how he can put Fielder on there and leave Cabrera off.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Mo Vaughn effect potential there as well.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He could.

 I forgot he is going on 27. He has already hada carrer the is good enough to get a H.O.F vote or two. Geezz.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh he can hit.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Pujols should be a lot higher. Imo…

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

not for 10 more years. no way

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Um dude is like 28.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He's my age

So he’s about to turn 30.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

B-R lists “Prince Albert” as one of his nicknames. Ew.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Try 30

10. Albert Pujols, 1B, St. Louis Cardinals
2010 Birthday: 30 on Jan. 16

Even conservatively, Pujols is going to be pushing 3,500 hits and 700 home runs in 10 years. He shows no signs of slowing down, and by the middle of the decade, we should get some indication of whether his listed age is as accurate as he maintains it is.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

regardless he will dominate this decade like bonds did this decade even though he only played like 6 seasons.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

BLB is just nuts.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

/obligatory “DOMINICAN PLAYERS LIE ABOUT THEIR AGE” comment

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what Goldstein said. ^^

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yet he trusts that Hanley is really his age? LOL!

At least Pujols went to high school in the US. I’d say there’s a much better chance Hanley lied about his age than Pujols.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

players don’t get better with age anymore, max production is 26-32

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Average players skille will decrease, yes. Great players? There skills will stay about even I think.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 15, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

check out Hank Aaron age 37-39:

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
1971 37 ATL NL 139 573 495 47 118 71 58 .327 .410 .669 1.079 194
1972 38 ATL NL 129 544 449 34 77 92 55 .265 .390 .514 .904 147
1973 39 ATL NL 120 465 392 40 96 68 51 .301 .402 .643 1.045 177
23 Seasons 3298 13940 12364 755 2297 1402 1383 .305 .374 .555 .928 155
G PA AB HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/15/2009.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

roids

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

"…this thing which tells time."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s not going to stop hitting….

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

have you seen his hitting coach?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Fielder #11, Matt Cain not on the list.

Fielder #11, Matt Cain not on the list.

Need I say more?

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Dec 15, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if Fielder Mo Vaughns by mid-decade, though.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Cain didn’t even make his reserve list:

Just missed (in alphabetical order): Pedro Alvarez, Pirates; Elvis Andrus, Rangers; Gordon Beckham, White Sox; Miguel Cabrera, Tigers; Robinson Cano, Yankees; Alcides Escobar, Brewes; Neftali Feliz, Rangers; Yovani Gallardo, Brewers; Bryce Harper, College of Southern Nevada; Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers; Mat Latos, Padres; Jesus Montero, Yankees; David Price, Rays; Anthony Ranaudo, Louisiana State; Carlos Santana, Indians; Grady Sizemore, Indians; Mike Stanton, Marlins; Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies; Justin Verlander, Tigers; Matt Wieters, Orioles; Ryan Zimmerman, Nationals.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

No Posey on that list either

Wow.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

But there is Carlos Santana.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He probably thought it was the guitarist.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Wieters and Bryce Harper too and no Posey. Wow.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

no sandoval either

it’s like he put lincecum up there then forgot to look at the giants roster again. I’d certainly put sandoval over at least some guys on that reserve list… Robinson Cano? David Price?

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by Smoke on the Water on Dec 15, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs moar Posey!

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

No Panda or Posey there either?

Trash it.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

how did florida turn down josh johnson for feliz/smoak if johnson isn’t even on this list?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d wager the list had nothing to do with it.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy. The Rangers GM said, “LIES!!!”. He never offered that deal.

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

but i bet he offered it for Halladay, so what’s the difference in his lies if one is dramatically cheaper and younger?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not going to quibble with a lot of the players on the list, but Gallardo over Cain is kind of weird. And I’d take Posey over Santana, but that’s not an egregious oversight.

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

isn’t MadBum a top prospect?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Selections were based on Baseball Prospectus statistical projections such as WARP (wins above replacement player), along with more subjective observations such as scouting reports and general sense of upside. Our focus here is ultimately on decade-long value to a team.

Cain must suck subjectively because his stats at least through 2015…

…are better than Gallardo’s.

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

HATERS GONNA HATE

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

And eh, it’s only Baseball Prospectus after all.

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

MATT CAIN’S XFIP IS TERRIBLE

ONE OF THESE YEARS, HIS ERA IS GOING TO BE AS BAD AS HIS XFIP AND THEN WE’LL SEE WHO’S LAUGHING!!!

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHA, HAVE YOU SEEN HIS W-L RECORD??? LOOOSER

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t believe he’s fooled some people into thinking he’s any better than Brett Tomko!!!!!

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

MODERATELY OUTPERFORMING YOUR EXPECTED ERA MEANS YOU WILL COMPLETELY SUCK IN THE FUTURE

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Dec 15, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, I have to do this

xFIP evaluates performance while neutralizing park and defense. Cain’s xFIP suggests that his ERA would go way up if if he moved to a neutral park, and enjoyed an average defense.

Cain is still in AT&T, and still enjoying great defense, probably more than ever. You really can’t say that xFIP was wrong. Well, you can, but it makes no sense.

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by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Err, isn’t AT&T a neutral park?

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe it's neutral overall...

but it probably would help RHP flyball pitchers, right? It would tend to neutralize left handed power hitters a little, no?

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by Smoke on the Water on Dec 15, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose so.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

What he said.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they must have changed the xFIP formula because when it was THT-only, I remember he had a couple years with xFIPs over 5, but they’re all in the 4.2 to 4.9 range now.

I still tend to think the formula assumes a bit too much (I don’t doubt Cain would give up more HR in a different ballpark, but I don’t think every single pitcher is going to give up HR on exactly 10% of fly balls.)

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Numbers don’t lie. Ever.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh, it’s all about the results in the end. People can argue with the the logic behind FIP all they want, but as long as it’s a better predictor of ERA than ERA itself, what does it matter?

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by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

is xFIP a better predictor of ERA than regular FIP though?

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to say

Because of the park thing.

But my point is that what you were saying about HR/FB is true, but could also be said about BABIP, clutchiness, etc., all of which normal FIP regresses.

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by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s true and I do think that FIP and the like are definitely way better predictors than ERA, but I also think it’s lame to say Matt Cain sucks because of his xFIP.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone ever said that in a non-sarcastic way?

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m probably exaggerating, but I do see a lot of people using it as evidence that he’s actually mediocre.

I dunno, maybe he is, but I’d find it hard to believe.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not here but outside of MCC, sure. For example:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/5/13/874195/matt-cain-2nd-most-overrated

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not really the same. Though, amusingly, I did just find an article where a guy claims Cain is a 3rd starter because of his FIP (when even a 3.8-3.9 ERA/FIP is more 2nd starter range than 3rd.)

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Lemme guess, a Yankees fan?

Link, please. :)

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/217879-heres-a-thought-matt-cain-isnt-making-any-progress

When Giants fans evaluate their team, they need to realize Cain, though a good third starter, is actually stretched as a No. 2 behind Tim Lincecum.

after showing that his FIP has been between 3.8 and 4 his whole career.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

uh I don't know what happened there

but the first sentence is what he said and the second sentence is my commentary.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks! I did read this article but completely forgot about that line.

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s weird in the comments that one guy keeps saying that Cain is overrated because of W-L record.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Dec 15, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

but Cain doesn’t even have a good w-l record. It makes no sense!

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Dec 16, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh and this is from 2007, but obviously 3.8 is a very respectable FIP. Not an ace’s FIP but on the cusp, average-wise, between a #1 and #2 starter.

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Um, what’s wrong with this one?

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing, he’s showing that Matt Cain, even if you assume his true talent level to be like his FIP (3.7-3.9) is still a 2nd starter, not a 3rd one. (The article I was talking about said that "Matt Cain was stretched as the Giants #2 starter behind Tim Lincecum.)

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, I though it’s supposed to be an example of people undervaluing Cain.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

If they’re saying he’s a 3rd starter based on FIP, then they would be undervaluing him, wouldn’t they?

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Oooohh OK. I thought esseffgeez was saying that this table undervalues Cain, which would be weird. Nevermind.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus

I do think it’s good to remind people of what the acutal numbers look like for 1 vs 2 vs 3 starters, since people seem to get the idea that guys with ERAs over 3.5 are 3rd starters and guys with ERAs over 4 are 4th starters.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think people get into thinking that a #1 should have an ERA below 2.5, a #2 should have around 3, a #3 3.5 and so forth, when actually the averages are much higher.

According to THT:

What this says is a pitcher with an ERA between 3.87 and 4.36 over at least 32 starts is on average a #2 starter. The year this analysis was done (2006), Cain’s ERA was 4.15 and he was actually described as your typical #2 starter, compared to Schmidt (a clear #1) and Dontrelle Willis (a fringey #1).

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Can anyone really disagree with what they wrote? Cain got really lucky with his ERA last year, I think everyone agrees about that.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I did find a Lookout Landing article where he cited the Giants rotation xFIPs (I think from 2007) and said that Tim Lincecum was the only one of the four (Tim, Matt, Lowry, Zito) with a future!

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

They were right on Lowry!

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL ZITO

Well, whatever he meant by “future”, it’s down to three now…though I’ll be happy if Lowry proves me wrong.

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Link?

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/story/2007/9/21/175753/906

The Giants have an awesome young rotation. Matt Cain, Noah Lowry, Tim Linecum, and Barry Zito are a combined 100 years old. Their xFIPs, in that order, are 4.69, 5.46, 3.89, and 4.99. None of them throw consistent strikes, and only one of them has shown the ability to miss a lot of bats. San Francisco badly needs a new wave of young talent to sweep away the old crap that Sabean’s been collecting for the past 30 years, but Lincecum’s probably the only guy here with any kind of respectable future ahead of him.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, that’s just weird. I’m sure he’d take it back now.

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by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

ehehe

there’s a guy in the comments who decides to keep Fausto Carmona in his keeper league instead of Lincecum or Zambrano.

Wonder if he regrets that now.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, wait, he keeps Fausto instead of Zambrano or Halladay. whoops

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

lol still

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 15, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty big lol imo

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha! Hooray for ground balls!

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Dang, that wasn’t actually the link I was thinking of. Hmm. I’ll see if I can find the right one when I get home.

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd understand the top 20

but how could you leave the Panda off the reserve list? He hit .330/25/90 in his first full season without much lineup protection, I might be biased but I think they are the ones with body bias.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Dec 15, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I will donate my left nut to charity if David Price outplays Matt Cain in the next decade

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 15, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Which charity?

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Alcides Escobar over Buster Posey, Sandoval & Cain?

/ignores rest of the list

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 15, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty ballsy

 heyward above both kemp and mccutchen

by giantdonkey on Dec 15, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Not if Heyward is as good as advertised.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

delmon young was equally advertised.

by giantdonkey on Dec 15, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Delmon Young never had good plate discipline. And wasn’t the 5 tool threat Heyward seems like he could be.

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect Heyward v. Justin Upton will be the NL MVP debate at least a couple times during the next decade… at least if the Diamondbacks are able to build a reasonably competitive team around Upton, that is.

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by Smoke on the Water on Dec 15, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Upton is my new white whale.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Upton is fat?

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Upton is kinda overrated, though obviously he’s got amazing potential. But Longoria, for example, is still a much better player.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

otoh

Upton is going to be 22 next year, what the hell

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah

But one is a GG 3B and the other is an average corner OF. That’s huge. The way I see it, you have to be really really confident that Upton’s gonna get a whole lot better with the bat (and that Longoria isn’t) in order to take him over Longoria.

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by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

In conclusion

I’d kill to have either of them on the Giants. No, really. Who wants to volunteer?

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s also the fact that Longoria is signed to a ridiculous deal and I don’t think Upton is.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s still on one-year deals at this point.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That's something else

But yes. Longoria’s contract makes him the most valuable asset in the majors in my opinion. I would trade every single player in the world for him.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Every single player, or any single player?

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Dec 15, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG DAVID WRIGHT FAPFAPFAPFAP

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Ladies and Gents, I give you 80% of your 2016 New York Yankees 25 man roster.

by grape on Dec 15, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

FTFY- after the Committee to Fix Baseball corrects inequities

1 Hanley Ramirez, SS, Yankees
2 Justin Upton, OF, Mets
3 Joe Mauer, C, Red Sox
4 Tim Lincecum, RHP, Cubs
5 Zack Greinke, RHP, Mets
6 Evan Longoria, 3B, Yankees
7 Ryan Braun, OF, Mets
8 Stephen Strasburg, RHP, Cubs
9 Felix Hernandez, RHP, Angels
10 Albert Pujols, 1B, Giants (after 2019)
11 Prince Fielder, 1B, Giants (traded for Cain in 2019 to platoon with Pujols in LF)
12 Jon Lester, LHP, Yankees
13 Jason Heyward, OF, Mets
14 Adam Jones, CF, Yankees
15 Brett Anderson, LHP, Angels
16 Andrew McCutchen, OF, Yankees
17 Tommy Hanson, RHP, Phillies
18 Rick Porcello, RHP, Tigers
19 Matt Kemp, OF, Dodgers
20 David Wright, 3B, Giants (signed 2019)

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Laughter and violent anger at the same time.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

rec

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs more Posey.

"…this thing which tells time."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the post winter meetings daily Sabean drippings on MLBTR blues?

by toofruss on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

Yes! Glad to have you. The alternative was to write something about how I want John Smoltz on the Giants, and I just didn’t feel like an Acquire Player X post.

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Just mention that Smoltz is a hitter and 35 fanposts will pop up about him. Problem solved.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking of making a fanpost with 20 questions to see if one is a MLBTR addict.

by toofruss on Dec 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Troy Glaus

Why can’t we go after him to play 1st?

Provides more dingerz than Nick Johnson. He also walks about 14% of the time. Which is double that of anyone on the Giants….Provides the same injury concerns that Johnson would too, but is a RH bat instead of a LH one…

by Hobbes2d on Dec 15, 2009 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

Not against him on a 1 year cheep contract. There are 3 or 4 names I am intrigued by more but if the price is right!

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 15, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been against Glaus in the past

But I didn’t make the LH vs. RH connection. I say yes now.

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by hairball on Dec 15, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

DO NOT want him bringing that championship ring around to get the team motivated in september or october.

is the gamerness quality still valid if i came at the price of sabean’s championship?

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking about Glaus yesterday. Wouldn’t give him a multiyear deal, but I like him about as much as Delgado, not quite as much as Johnson. He’d be a solid pick-up.

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I check mlbtraderumors about every hour, and I have been extremely disappointed that Sabean hasn’t made a stupid move since Saturday. I haven’t been apoplectic in three days!!!

/auto-defenestrates

something something jhiat00 will swindle

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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 15, 2009 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

well, im thinking the opposite. he is going to wait for so long that we will have a choice between the fat kid from sandlot or the bad italian stereotype in the meatlocker from those comcast commercials

Les Plack = more chicks
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by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 15, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard

that the Red Sox are going after Johnson D:
argh that means Sabeans gonna sign LaRoche if the other (good) option is gone

Hey Fred Lewis, remember Mother's Day?

by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Dec 15, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

Mariners want LaRoche, although I thought the Sox signed Lackey so they could move Buchholz for AdrGon

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

this more of what I heard on the Boston front

Buchholz & Kelly/Westmoreland for Gonzalez

They also put an 3/$15.5MM offer for Aroldis Chapman

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Johnson talk could be negotiating ploy, I know they got $ in Boston, but i can’t believe they’d pay more money to have Johnson over Gonzalez for the next 3 years

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

It's good to have a back up plan

For Sabean, it would be great if he had a plan at all

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabes’ plan:

Step 1: do nothing
Step 2: ???
Step 3: win championshipz

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Step 2

My sources tell me what Sabes second step is:

Step 2-Panic and sign players no one else wants to huge contracts (see Grant’s list)

by Gobroks on Dec 15, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

"…this thing which tells time."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants are not interested in winning championshipz… they are only interested in fielding a competitive team that competes when there’s competition in a tough division of competition. They want to compete, not win. This is ironic because Sabean tucks tail the moment any team with deeper pockets sprinkles interest dust on a free agent he’s tire-kicking.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

even our Johnson’s aren’t safe from the yank or the red sox

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Mitchell never wore a cup

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither does Torri Hunter.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Beltre does now.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Haz balls of steel

Now offering free hugs from Amy G.
Billy Ripken is still a douche bag.

by kbsofaraway08 on Dec 15, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Why are better teams c-blocking our Johnson… we’re getting blue balls by the bay.

by Every6thDay on Dec 15, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yank

great newspaper, or greatest newspaper?

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Completely OT:

I just found out that if you put your cursor on an xkcd comic, a second punchline appears. It’s like finding out that every single Beatles album had a hidden track you’ve never heard!

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

Sometimes, the image tag is the best part!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It took me a year to finally read all the archived comics. Now I have to start all over again.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh, it's just as well

I don’t see what song could possibly be better than the reprise of Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 15, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

On a related note

I bought Rubber Soul for The Beatles Rock Band today. I’ve spent $300+ on this game so far. Sigh.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I still want Beatles Rock Band so bad.

But I need to sell my Wii first. Anyone want one?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Jr. does.

Kid spends in two temporal directions…at our local Park ‘n’ Swap he bought a Nintendo DS.

I also accelerate past the “Rock Band” aisle when we’re down to E – Fry’s for anything so as to spare us both the agony as he’s definitely digging the Beatles.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG. Now I have to re-read every fucking one of them.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Dec 15, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly!

Most of them don’t add much, but once in a while there’s one that’s funnier than the original punch line, and that’s enough to make me go through all of them. Like this, or this, or this.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Dr. McNinja has this too.

It’s usually funnier than the comic itself.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 15, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

So does Softer Life. But no, I am not bitter that I now have to re-read every XKCD.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

DAMN YOU!!!

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The Cubs are considering Rick Ankiel, Reed Johnson and Scott Podsednik

reassure me that Sabes went home for the day and isn’t getting into a bidding war tonite

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

LOL Cubs.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

a little OT

can’t someone make a burrito with a corn tortilla already?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

Why would you want to? Flour tortillas are by far superior.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

too gluey

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

too crumbly

can’t be rolled like flour ones.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Generally speaking, corn tortillas > flour. But for burritos, flour is the way to go.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

not a fan of corn tortilla’s texture for a burrito

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

Unless they’re home-made: flour <<< corn

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 15, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

they do

it’s just that they are deep-fried and called chimichangas or flautas.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 15, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, I haven’t made chimichangas in a long time. hmm.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

my wife makes the best flautas ever

you should come have some. Flautas, of course. Not “some”.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 15, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

mmm flautas...

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

mmm, some

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG I LOVE FLAUTAS

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 15, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

how are you supposed to do it without the tortilla breaking? the mexicans know what they are doing.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Dec 15, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You steam it first.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Or you fry it for like 30 seconds

Corn tortillas are still more brittle than flour, though.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

fried foods are bad

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

/flagged

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Dec 15, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Question

I’m having a debate with a friend about how much better Halladay is than Lee.

I pointed out that Halladay was only ~ .5 WAR better than Lee last year, but he’s arguing that Halladay was much better because he pitched in a tougher division. Is that true of WAR? Can it be depressed by being in a harder division?

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

It can be less depressed if you’d just compliment it once and a while.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it needs more sunlight.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s not adjusted for park or strength of competition

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Dec 15, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I was sure something would have happened while I was out today.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

they be waiting on you, ms. prony

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

nah

Howie has yet to make a bad joke

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure that's not true

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 15, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s the difference between roast beef and pea soup?

(No telling, Facebook friends!!!)

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Roast beef is more delicious.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I said no telling!!!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Way to ruin it for everyone.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Roast beef is served on a plate, while pea soup is served in a bowl.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 15, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s just a matter of form. It’s not necessarily true.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

If you drop either, roast beef is more salvageable.

Five second rule, adjustable for length of time between carpet shampooings.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never heard of a pea soup sandwich.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a good idea.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sliced Roast Beef looks like a vagina, pea soup doesn’t (shouldn’t?)

by locutus on Dec 15, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing that you just said is true.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

roast beast is higher on the food chain

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Since both count as food, and since both are the natural predators of nothing… I don’t know about that.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, he’s right. Anything that makes its own food (like most plants, including peas) is at the absolute bottom.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

But the peas in pea soup aren’t doing that.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, OK.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, there’s ham in any decent split pea soup.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 15, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Not where I come from.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Anything that makes its own food is at the absolute bottom.

Living in mom’s basement FTW!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t you have a statz for that?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

LTSOLIMB

Likeliness To Score Over Living In Mom’s Basement

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Measures the chick-magnet quality of apartments.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

that would be chick-dependent

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I swear, this is the nerdiest fucking blog community.

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, this blog is about baseball.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, what? How do I get back to the other one?

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I really don’t want to have to go through the xkcd archives just to find out what the alt text for this image was.

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Google search XKCD Jacket.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope this is worth it.

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally wasn’t

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

FINE NEXT TIME YOU LOOK THROUGH THE WHOLE FUCKING ARCHIVE

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I MADE IT EASY FOR YOU JUST BE GRATEFUL DAMMIT

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

This Google thing is AMAZING! How have I never used it before?

"Just another ahahahaha... laugher."
bok bok bok... BOCOCK!

by capnk on Dec 15, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Get the book.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, apparently they built a school in Laos. It’s officially the coolest school in history.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

What's the Difference between Tiger Woods and Santa Claus?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Santa Claus is not a professional golfer!

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Dec 15, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHA!

That one always gets me!

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s funny because it’s true.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s funny.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard this one on KNBR.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s my answer, by the way.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I read it in Willie Brown’s column…

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Santa has enough sense to stop after three Ho’s…

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Activity to pick up as Giants exit Indy.

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

giants sign ing and chang!

save money on two for one deal

Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.

by Headhunter Rollins on Dec 15, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

Wang for the trifecta.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the RJ Poll closed yet?

And if so does that mean we get him back?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

Totally OT but SO MUCH WIN

This appears to be some sort of automated news aggregation page for McC on the NPR website.

Look at the section called “Cast of Characters”, and all the “Related Quotes”.

The internet just doesn’t understand McC.

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 3:00 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

LOL

that is amazing

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

WHY NOT TRADE BUMGARNER FOR SOME BANGER STUD?

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Good question.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Who is on this list of Bager Studs?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Just your mom.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry. I really have been reading too much XKCD lately.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

MY MOM FOR MADBUM!

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabes needs to get that done.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Goofus is my dad

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

He has fathered half of this board.

WHY IS BOCOCK?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

we are all goofus

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Pedro Feliz is my Dad?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I has brothers?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Goofus is my dad and my daughter’s dad.

wait what?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Dec 15, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

No such thing.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Bagel Stubs?

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Dec 15, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Stubbs Bagel Sauce?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Stubbs the Zombie?

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Stubbs the Zombie Sauce?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Stubbs the Saucy Zombie?

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Stub Hub?

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

fuck, Albert.

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Dec 15, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Uncle Albert

aaand we’re off…

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know how Einstein or the Jets got in there.

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Blazing Saddles Quote

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This is amazing, but what is the point of that article? Does it have a thesis or a purpose other than highlighting how awesome we all are? I mean, I’m all for flattery, but I am confused.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s Awesome!!!!

Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG

by goGSW24 on Dec 15, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

This dude is like Bizarro Grant
The X factor for Sabean is his arbitration quartet. If the Giants work out a long-term, back-loaded deal with Lincecum, freeing up cash in the short-term, they could make a couple of splashes — suddenly, a duo of first baseman Adam LaRoche and outfielder Marlon Byrd might be in play.
(Personally, I’m a big fan of signing former Cal star Xavier Nady, who is recovering from his second Tommy John surgery, to a heavily incentive-laden deal.)

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If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

Tnarg?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

tnarG?

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Suddenly?

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He couldn’t figure out whether “All of a sudden” or “All of the sudden” was correct, so he went with “Suddenly.”

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Either way, I don’t understand how “sudden” is a noun. Stupid, dumb idiom.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sudden is an adjective, no?

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

but the articles a and the precede nouns.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

They can also precede adjectives:

a plump catcher
the slow cleanup hitter

SEE?

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

But there’s still a noun being modified, as opposed to “a sudden.”

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah so.

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Suddenly

I’m not half the man I used to be.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Dec 15, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a shadow hanging over me.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

All of a/the sudden, I’m not half the man I used to… blooden…?

More proof that “Suddenly” is superior.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Scrambled eggs, scrambled eggs, oh my darling how I love your legs.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone? Anyone?

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s got freckles on her BUT she is nice
And when she’s in my arms it’s Paradise
She was born in Hackensack
She’s made a fortune on her career
She’s got freckles on her BUT she is nice.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 15, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

From the comments on the side...
every1 but us
SSFmatt – “all of baseball is making move while the giants just sit there and watch teams sign free agents and make big time deals. when are the ownership get off there rich A S S and make a big move to bring in a number 3 4 or 5 hitter. the time is now giants not later. look at the Seattle they are trying to help ichiro singing people and making Cliff Lee there number 1 starter now. GIANTS time to get on the phone and make some deals.”

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Helping Ichiro sing is a worthy goal.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvxsM_4GuA

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEivKMaSSA

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOO

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabes will sign Vlad

He will then turn to the Lunatic Fringe and with all sincerity say, “There, are you happy now?”

WHY IS BOCOCK?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply actions  

I keep hearing Dan Uggla’s name in relation to the Giants. I know he is a great hitter, but if you look at his record against the teams that count in the National League West, he is a no-show. He has hit .188 with 27 strikeouts against the Rockies and .192 with 26 strikeouts against the Dodgers. Do the Giants think this would change if he were to join the team?

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 3:34 PM PST reply actions  

.897 OPS against the Diamondbacks
.668 OPS against the Rockies
.603 OPS against the Dodgers
1.054 OPS against the Padres
.573 OPS against the Giants

Why, it’s almost as though there was some kind of SSS flukery going on here.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

1.533 career OPS vs Oakland

this is why they’re looking at him, so we can dominate the interleague series every year.

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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, I fucked that up

.975 OPS against the Giants

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, those numbers will be relevant forever, since pitchers always stay with the same team.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Dec 15, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

NO ITS MAGIC!!!

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

flawless logic

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Strikes out too much against Rockies and Dodgers. DNW.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

My last day on my job, which I’ve been doing for four years, ends in 8 minutes. Dang.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

What have you been working on?

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been working for Legacy.com. Leaving due to a move so my wife can go back to school. I’ve been working remotely for some time now (they’re located in the Chicagoland area), but it wasn’t going to be possible to work from where we’re moving (Florida) because they’re not set up to do business there.

….and I just logged out for the last time. I’m officially unemployed!

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

where in florida ?

 my wife is from the sarasota area, so i was back visiting here family over thanksgiving.

   and good luck with the move…. moving sucks.

by giantdonkey on Dec 15, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Tallahassee. North Florida, closer (geographically and culturally) to southern Georgia than what people think of as Florida.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Go to Savannah and play some Belles, Bourbon and Bullets.
I do declare…

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you write one for yourself (jobwise)?
Good luck.

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

ot

raiders sign j.p losman lol

by giantdonkey on Dec 15, 2009 4:14 PM PST reply actions  

TIME FOR TIM RATTAY TO SHINE IN THE UFL

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't the UFL season over?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

idk.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, championship game was a few weeks ago

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Who ended up winning it?

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by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe vegas? i might be wrong, but i’m pretty sure it was Vegas

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

“Man, I don’t give a shit about this. Bout to hit up da club.”

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

(insert Lincecum making it rain gif here)

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

NICE!

specially that dude on the left with the cash on his head

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that Jim Jones? I can’t remember.

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by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

umm, good question, dunno

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely looks like him. BALLIN!!!!

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by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

HIGH AS HELL prolly too

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh that’s a guarantee. If he wasn’t, there would be a problem.

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by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I love it. Just made my day. I wish I could give you ten recs for this.

"El once, chico. Eleven."

by Juan Primo on Dec 15, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU BETTER DAMN WELL TRY

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 15, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

There it is!

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by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Bottom left? I think the guy in the bottom right is a chick.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s an interesting trophy.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Great trophy for sticking up your ass.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Why mine? That seems rather aggressive of you.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

Given a choice, I’m sure you’d shove it up Grant’s ass.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if the choice was mine or his, yeah. Probably.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t exclude jcb’s ass

by sfoakbay on Dec 15, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

josman? I like his drawings.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: warriors apparently have everyone on the block… Good lord, what next, peace Randolph, peace Curry, peace Ellis, jeeze

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

Who has worse management: The Warriors or Lehman Bros.?

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Dec 15, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeeze, i mean, there are endless jokes one can use on the warriors, up to the point where it’s not even funny

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

FIRE SALE!

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by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

Bruce Bochy and Friends Sing Christmas Carols

"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."

by Kitspool on Dec 15, 2009 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

How bad is Podsednik?

White Sox fans are happy to have Juan Pierre since it means Podsednik won’t be back. Get ’er done Sabes!

by Into the Void on Dec 15, 2009 4:36 PM PST reply actions  

He’s bad enough to the point my friends have sent me emails saying, “I’m so sorry your team’s GM is considering Podsednik.”

His name's Clayton, not Danny.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 15, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm in the middle

Specifically the part of the middle that leads to a GOOD signing that is also INTERESTING.

Over/under 8.5% chance that happens?

Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG

by goGSW24 on Dec 15, 2009 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

Another OT: hey, if the niners go 9-7, and so do the Giants, Atl, and Dal, niners would be in the playoffs

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

I’d say the Giants deserve the spot a lot more than the Niners.

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by cheno on Dec 15, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

not about “deserving” though… it’s such a long shot… but who knows

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

actually like a 10% chance

plus another 5% that Cards crap the bed and Niners win the division.

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, who knows, but like i said, not getting my hopes up

by PiKAgiant on Dec 16, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Deserve...

ain’t got nuthin’ to do with it.

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn

I half riders bloque.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:11 PM PST reply actions  

Dude, i feel the same way, isn’t that weird? i got the same thing… i’m tired talking about a giants offseason filled with NOTHING

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Im tired of writing this comparative essay

..and Ive written….2 lines

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh…. well in that case, yea, that kinda shit happens to me all the time too. You just get bored and can’t think of anything, usually i listen to some good music, get a latte, and chill and just write anything that comes to mind… But if you’re doing a comparative essay, FUCK THAT

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya, I also have 3 tests tomoro

fuck me

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i feel for youse, nothing like the olden days when a kid could get by on youthful charm and wit until, well, grad school!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

yea well…. times have changed, haven’t they? FUCK SCHOOL

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit, dude i’m not sure how much this site would help you on that then

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Not unless anyone is really good at Bio, has recently read Huckleberry Finn, or speaks fluent Spanish

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

oh my god, wait, that’s not just the paper…

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats what my tests are on

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yea, i figured, all i know about huck finn is that it was racist i believe, right?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh, ya. Kinda, its complicated.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember taking an exam on it in high school, and i had to read it, but i just said fuck that, since it’s a long book

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

ugh; back to school for you, pika

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

College, not school… in college, NOBODY CARES ABOUT HUCK FINN

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

’specially the ones destined to be mopping floors for the USGS

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

if i ever get there… i am smarter than you think sir… not necessarily in english

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

there’s a good essay in there somewhere

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be one ridiculous paper

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm trying to think of a scenario

That would involve all three.

Did Huckleberry Finn have the Spanish Flu?

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 15, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

“Biological and Spanish Influences in the Writing of Huckleberry Finn”

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

/shoots self

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

well done

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

An Evolutionary Look at the Spread of Spanish Mating Behaviors among Rafters on the Mississippi River

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

No no no. Huck was killed by the Fantom in 1898, only to be resurrected by a Navajo shaman in 1905 and given the powers of Coyote.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, seriously ...

… I’m a semi-expert on Huck Finn.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

care to analyze the events

between pages 75-150?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Chapters please, I don’t have the book nearby.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a picaresque.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

spoiler

Sancho Panza did it in the study with the crowbar

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That scene was surprisingly obscene.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Not for Twain.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this high school level? Because I did pretty well in AP Bio last year.

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

DBacks signed Abreu

when the hell was this?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

Oh

Tony Abreu. Came over in the Garland trade.

My mistake

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Abreu re-signed with the Angels.

Unless the Dbacks signed Tony Abreu

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Its Tony, from the Garland trade. I just saw something about Abreu on the D’backs. Sorry about that.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

get crackalakin’ on that homework, son

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

ICWYDT

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

there are many—do your homework!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

oh shut it greatgiantfan

last final is thursday and i’m done until then, so for 3 weeks after that, you cant say JACK!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It is not difficult at all

JACK!

See? really easy!

JACK JACK JACK JACK!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

UR CROSSIN THE LINE BUDDY!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS LINE?

OR THIS LINE?

His name's Clayton, not Danny.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 15, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Ummmmmm da one on da bottom!!!!!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

Not sure how this works, but it sounds dirty.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

oh snap, yes it does!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

you’ve got a long way from getting out of mom’s basement

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

or was that jcb9?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really, the door is just a couple feet to my left.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

ain’t had no fun
jack, jack, jack, jack, jackin’ around
ain’t had no fun
(where it at)
it’s down, it’s down, it’s downtown
but if it’s alright with you
and if it’s alright yes I will
and ya it’s alright with you
and if it’s alright yes I will
and if it’s alright
and if it’s alright
c ‘mon now and if it’s alright
and if it’s alright
and if it’s alright
and if its all,
all right with you dear
ah c’ mon babe, go ’head
to the kill

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by Juan Primo on Dec 15, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah…JACK!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Favorite XBOX 360 game and or sports game for that system today… Mine is madden 10, NHL is sick too

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:32 PM PST reply actions  

CODMW2 FTW!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, yea my friend plays it all the time… i’m more halo myself

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we talking all time or this year? Xbox 360 exclusives or multiplatform?

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

360… just wondering since that’s what i got, plus we’ll go with just this year

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You played LFD2 yet?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

not PLAYED IT, but seen it played yea, that game is fucking crazy, also pretty funny

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks sick

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

No

I blew all my money on MW2

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

eh, good choice anyway, since COD is awesome, plus online play is sick

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya

its crazy with all the customizable stuff now. And poeple keep finding glitches, so I got into a couplrb games today with unlimited ammo, where you never had to reload your gun, and you could just fire off noob tubes like a machine gun.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

pffft, that just sounds too easy, like shooting fish in a barrel

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

not when there are 12 people rapid firing noob tubes. Your screen never stops shaking. Its fun for a while.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT IS AWESOME! i’m not into it as much as sports game or halo but that’s still pretty neat

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not me, I never tube. i hate it

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not me, I never lube. i hate it

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It just feels like im cheating, ya know?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

HA! yea that shit sucks on Halo

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

L4D2 is awesome

It’s L4D1 but crammed with twice as much awesomeness.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

i want it

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

My parents wont buy me video games

But i made some money carrying Christmas tree around on the Alhambra Valley Tree Farm

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh nice! god idea to make some money!!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

ya

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Btw, you are Nattochan, right?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

No idea what you’re talking about.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Dont mess with my head, I have tests and stuff tomorow.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Batman: Arkham Asylum

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I need to play that game, it looks absolutely crazy

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I just finished it

And now I’m running around by myself looking for the Riddler’s puzzles. I’ve never done something like that on any game before. It must have been good.

I’m still trying to decide whether I like that one or Bioshock better…

The baseball Satanist

by thehavenot on Dec 15, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to try to get 100%, but I gave up finding the Joker teeth because I didn’t want to search entire areas again.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I did the exact same thing. I think I’m only missing a couple of them, but I have no idea which ones.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

A game i need to get next year, bioshock 2

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I bought this based off the last time I saw you mention it, completely worth it. It’s a pretty short game (I played through it in like a day and a half) but what’s there is really really good.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, like I said the main story took me like a day and a half to finish. There’s challenges and riddles and such that extend the replay value, though, and I ended up playing through again on a harder difficulty.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea,

That kinda sounds really fun, since i’m a fan of riddles and a good storyline. That’s exactly why i got bioshock, since there’s 2 or 3 different endings to the game, depending upon what you do

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The storyline is good, the voice acting is good, and the combat is really fun, so I’d definitely recommend it.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll probably make that a probable game to get next year

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They should make a FPS game where the targets are all POKEMONZ.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

They should make a Madden game where all the players are POKEMONZ.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That would get me to play a Madden game.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea for sure, they do have a fantasy type thing for madden i thought

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Pokemon Snap!

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I play NHL more than any other single game probably. It helps that the Avs are good this year. If you are willing to commit a decent amount of time to a game, Dragon Age: Origins is really good. I played the PC version, but I hear the big differences are just fewer enemies on screen at a couple specific points and no isometric view, so not a huge deal.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I really really want to play Dragon Age

But I know it’ll suck up all of my time.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the first playthrough will probably take you somewhere from 60-80 hours from most estimates I’ve seen (mine took 70 or so) and if you start playing it you’ll have to finish it. I want to start playing through it again but I know if I start I’ll have to play all the way through and I can’t really justify putting that much more time into it.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, I don't have that kind of time anymore

Also I just got Assassin’s Creed II. :/

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

You like assassins creed II? i heard it’s game of the year

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Haven't played it yet but looking forward to it

Amazon just shipped it today.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

oh damn, let me know whats up with the game, it looks pretty good

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard there’s a gay elf in there.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course if you think about it aren’t all elves switch-hitters.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

They are at crotch level all the time. It must be quite the temptation.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Those are halflings. Elves are the tall pretty ones.

Except the ones at the North Pole, but that’s a whole other fetish.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

… halflings.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, no play for them

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Good subject!

Here there ever been an openly gay video game character?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean besides Mario and Luigi.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Earthworm Jim

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Duke Nukem!

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Those two are brothers!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

What the hell is Grimace, anyway?

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Grimace is an anthropomorphic purple tastebud.[citation needed] Initially, Grimace was the “Evil Grimace”, with two pairs of arms with which to steal milkshakes. After that first campaign, the character was revised to be one of the “good guys”, and his number of arms was reduced by two. Commercials and merchandise generally portrayed him as a well-meaning simpleton, whose clumsy antics provided a comic foil to Ronald McDonald. The character was retained after the streamlining of the characters in the ’80s

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

How meta of them!

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a nurse where I work who is shaped very much like grimace. First day I saw her, she was wearing a purple dress.

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by DrStankus on Dec 15, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

a comic foil to Ronald McDonald...

wait
wut

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Joachim in Shadow Hearts: Covenant was pretty damn close to it.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

I suddenly have the urge to replay that game.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I just got

Arcanum and Planescape: Torment.

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

NHL is awesome, thanks to how good the sharks are, haha, but the be a pro thing is awesome

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Evidently, I love me some Beatles Rock Band.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

WTF

is the secret of Monkey Island?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Only one of the greatest games ever.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

A thousand times yes.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Dec 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds more like one of the greatest pornos ever.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure the game is older than you are, so I wouldn’t be surprised that you don’t know it.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt it, considering you cant adapt Super Nintendo games for the 360

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, it is possible…

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Not according to Flannegans Law of Physiologicalism

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Brannigan’s Law?

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

scout6, show them the medal I won.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

sigh

/points to howtheyscored’s chest

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

McCC Trivia: Kiff and I have the same last name. He spells it wrong, though.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Your last name is deviation of Kroker?

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Croker.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Well there you go then.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Howie’s species also reproduces in the very same way. Funny story actually…

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Natto found out the hard way.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

But in the end, we all learned a valuable lesson about Columbus Day.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

How does that make the game less old than you?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s an old LucasArts adventure game about a wannabe pirate attempting to make his name known throughout the Caribbean. It’s also hilarious.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

LucasArts used to have GREAT games

like this baby

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by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 15, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the greatest games no one played.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

the only bad thing about this game was that part in the woods where you had to place the sign in that EXACT spot in order to move onto the next part.

apart from that it’s so close to being perfect.

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by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 15, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

That’s the only puzzle I hated.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Which one is that?

full throttle and day of the tentacle bring back some awesome memories.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Grim Fandango

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Never heard of it

you know about scummvm, right? Or the other emulators? I love playing those old games. If you have a mac there’s a series of torrents on piratebay with a TON of old dos games formatted for mac. OMG it’s so great.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

play grim fandango any way you possibly can because it really is one of the best games. the atmosphere and story are amazing. not to mention the awesome soundtrack which you can listen to all the songs here!

http://www.grimfandango.net/?page=soundtrack

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by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 15, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I will definitely do it

I really wish they made modern versions of these types of games. People don’t have the patience for this stuff anymore.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny you should say that

www.telltalegames.com

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that's pretty awesome

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The new Monkey Island is fantastic.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

That’s how I play them these days. Grim Fandango can’t be played on it though since it uses a 3D engine.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there a way to get it on a mac?

I looked around with no luck so far

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, no

PC only.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

argh

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

should be able to

use VMWare, install windows and play it. Or else if you have an intel mac, dual boot.

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe I played a game called Escape from Monkey Island a long time ago. Not sure if it is related, but it was fun

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 15, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That was the fourth game in the series.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

that also looks interesting!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s an old LucasArts adventure game, the XBOX Live Arcade port is redone with prettier graphics and such. It’s awesome.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m such a fanboy of it that I bought the PC and Live versions, even though I have the original CD version. If I had an iPhone, I’d probably get that version as well.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, you kids nowadays

No appreciation for the classics.

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by groug on Dec 15, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Mrs. Pacman!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Babe

GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Dec 15, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Betty Boop!

but now saying that made me think of the scene in Saving Private Ryan, and now im sad =(

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

/post my halloween costume again

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome game.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s just sad.

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I read that last one as:

Marvel vs Capcom2: The Secret of Herpes

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, it isn't?!

I want a refund!

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Although New Age of Herpes would have been just as funny

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw, I miss Barry Zito on Twitter! I’ll ask him tomorrow.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

My graph is a bunch of sports games, Resident Evil 5, the Magic: The Gathering XBLA game, and Dead Rising. NHL almost catches your Beatles: Rock Band bar, which means holy jesus do you play a lot of Beatles: Rock Band.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re on Giant Bomb too?

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

How do you like Smackdown vs Raw? I haven’t played any wrestling games in a while and have been tempted to get it since learning about the storyline creation mode.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s pretty much the same game it’s ever been. I enjoy it enough to put it in every once in a while, but I was actually prety underwhelmed with the storyline creator. The premade scenes get repetitive fairly quickly, but I’ve seen where a couple of people still managed to do some pretty cool stuff with it.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Where’d you get that?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Giant Bomb

It’s an awesome video games site that does previews and reviews and collects video game info kind of like Wikipedia.
http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/natto/games/

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

so how’d you get that graph to come up?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

If you sign up for an account, it develops over time as you play more games.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

As far as posting it goes

I just did a screenshot of the page.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

wait, do i hook it up to my gamertag?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

where do i go to put in my gamertag?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Check under the “Achievements” tab.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

They also drink energy drinks and stay fat with candy.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Man

By this date last year, the Giants had:

- Signed Jeremy Affeldt
- Signed Bobby Howry
- Signed Edgar Renteria

That was like half of their postseason moves right there!

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

That would’ve been been for the best in one of those three cases!

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

signing affeldt, right?

by sfoakbay on Dec 15, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I cant say im disappointed we didnt repeat that.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Two of those signings were solid, and the third was defended by a lot of McCoven at the time (not me).

I’m not complaining about the inaction thus far, really. Although it is kind of frustrating in an illogical sort of way.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

NOW ALL WE’VE DONE IS SIGN A SHORTSTOP TRYING TO PITCH!

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Dec 15, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabean’s going to let it roll into January. He’ll occasional spew some shit like “we’re letting the market develope on these players ( Dye and Vlad), we’re not in a hurry to get anything done( bye NJ ),” and “we’ve got offers out there ( PODS ), they know what we’re interesting in doing (Sales).”

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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 15, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

2 out of 3 ain’t bad.

by sprdelfin on Dec 15, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s . . . too many of them.

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

Comments, I mean.

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Halfway done!

with my first page

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:45 PM PST reply actions  

FUCK YEA BUDDY!!!

only took you like hour and half

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Luckily its only a two page paper, and only the rough draft is due tomorow.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabes is wondering when the Rough Draft occurs.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

wow, well, get ready dude, college is 10 page papers… well, maybe not 10, but i’ve had a few 10 pagers, and the rest are like 2 or 3 pages

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ive done 7 before

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, those aren’t too fun are they?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Not so much

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

depends on what you’re writing about… Like i did a 10 pager on climate change

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Eeeeeeeeeew

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

When you’re a geography major there’s no ewww with climate change, pretty important shit

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Knowing that, I should probably keep my political opinions regarding climate change close to the vest.

Lethargy
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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, in my opinion, both sides have a great argument

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Climate Change: Pretty Important Shit

by PiKAgiant, B.S.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you, now i would like to begin by saying that everyone here including myself are contributing to the destruction of our planet…. BLAH BLAH BLAH

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

My methane gas outtake has definitely gone up in the last three days.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

you need to burn the off-gasses

like at a refinery

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

every so often, that shit blows up.

Ahh, the joys of living in a town with two refineries.

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by DrStankus on Dec 15, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

But what do you recommend for when I’m not in the bedroom?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHA! too good dude, +1

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Discretion?

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Baby Jesus Buttplug

take your fun with you!

http://www.divine-interventions.com/baby.php

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not comfortable with this.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

flex your power dude

zap away and sorry for offending.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t offended. I just don’t want Jesus in my butt.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You have no idea how much I want to make this my sig.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You don’t want to carry him with you at all times?

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

well to be fair

he probably wouldn’t be too crazy about it either

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Climate Change: BS

By PiKAgiant, Pretty important shit

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Dec 16, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Try writing a thesis.

by Merope on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, that always helps ones cause when writing a paper

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Most of my papers were 8 – 10 pages. My senior thingy was 20-40. My short stories were 10 – 30 (nobody appreciated having to read my 30-page story).

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

My Senior Thingy

a photo essay by Howie. Pages best printed in landscape

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re going to enjoy 20 pagers.

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait until the kid has to write a thesis/dissertation.

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by cornball on Dec 15, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Two page

Man, I could do those in my sleep.

Getting over seven was a big step. And over ten…ugh.

My 10th grade English teacher was a total dick…that probably colors some of my ire. He was caught diddling a gal who was one grade ahead of me, which resulted in his termination and divorce.

Fun times.

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by DrStankus on Dec 15, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya. I heard him. Forget what his name was. But i thought he was “diddling” someone who graduated in like 05

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

then there are two teachers diddling students there.

Cause she was class of 1990…which means she is old enough to be your mom.

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by DrStankus on Dec 15, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Gone With The Wind is on TV

I think it is funny that they include the breaks for the overture and intermission in the movie.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions  

Dude did you know in the book she had another kid first???

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait…what? Who had another kid? When?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Scarlett! In the book she had a son with her first husband.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The movie makes it seem like they got married and he ran off and got killed within a week. lol

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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 15, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea what that book is about.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

the south

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

the Mary Sue to end all Mary Sues

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The hell are you people TALKING ABOUT!?!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Shades of the color red.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m choosing to interpret this as you saying “The South” is the “Mary Sue to end all Mary Sues”

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, that kinda works.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It really does.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw Gone With the Wind: The Musical in London

it was about as good as it sounds.

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess the obvious question is: Why?

by taliesin on Dec 15, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

My aunt bought me tickets. She thought it was awful too!

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by jponry on Dec 15, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Frankly, my dear

[I love you! Let’s get married!]

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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but you have to tell my family and my girlfriend.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it is funny

that there are never intermissions in long films now. I stupidly drank a whole pepsi right at the beginning of the first Lord of the Rings movie; when they got to the damn scene at Rivendell with all the waterfalls I couldn’t take it any more.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Gods and Generals had an intermission.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Dec 15, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

ah fudge

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

Fudge is good.

His name's Clayton, not Danny.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 15, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

MMMM CHOCO FUDGE!!!!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

3/4 of the way done!

with my first page

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions  

so does terribleness too, apparently.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

unless you want to think like that

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Im a Giants fan.

Im pessimistic.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you already finished your first page.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

me too

with this gigantic thread… I need to quit my job so I can read this all day long.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck

I need winter break

good news: It is ugly Christmas sweater day at school tomorow.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

HA! oh and that’s the best thing about college! UGLY SWEATER PARTY!!!! coming back home friday, FUCK YES!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

What city you live in?

Outside of college I mean

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You go to Miramonte?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. Campo…I think you guys are pretty good at volleyball.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea… plus got the hot chicks that play volleyball… Used to be good at football, we played you guys at Alhambra when you had that outstanding RB

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Rutley, ya. He starts for San Jose State now.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Rutley BLEW US APART! and we practiced ALL FUCKING WEEK for the option, Rutley was a gimmicky back

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya

He was pretty damn good.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to Miramonte.

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

/doesn’t care

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by jcb9 on Dec 15, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

/thinks cares about high school still

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Hella ridiculously good water polo team.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Semi-OT: Strikeouts For Troops Party

So I’m going to Zeets’ shindig tomorrow. Any tips on how to comport myself? Aside from drinking a lot?

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 8:38 PM PST reply actions  

Just remember when you hit on a girl and strike out, you’re doing it for the troops.

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by groug on Dec 15, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Just got to let zeets know after that you contributed

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

OK. I’ll make sure to do that … after I hit on a girl

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

A giiiiirl

sssssssss

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Dec 15, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

/whispers not-really-secret knowledge about shanghaijim in groug’s ear

by Grant on Dec 15, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

But…but…then he can…hit on a boy…and not strike out!

Phew…saved that one.

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by groug on Dec 15, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t even know you could do that with flan.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

FLAN THIS SUCKA

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

He would be really drunk if hit on a girl.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2009 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

OKAY I GET IT YOU GUYS JEEZ

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by groug on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 AM PST up reply actions  

/forgets again

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by groug on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Ask him if you two can go canyon throwing sometime.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

is that anything like a zit?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

YOUR MISSION

seduce Barry Zito
break his heart
force him to reconsider his life choices and void his contract.

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Roger!

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by shanghaijim on Dec 16, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

that's too many comments

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions  

Especially for yet another day when nothing Giantsy happened.

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

We all could use some interesting

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

so, niners=playoffs? orrrrrrr warriors=John Wall?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

i turned on the radio just long enough to hear ralph utter “nba” and then off it went. plz don’t bring up that trash again!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The stars would have to align perfectly for the niners to make the playoffs. Losing to Seattle really hurt.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

oh well. there’s no downside to winning, so even if they win out and still don’t make it, they’ll be looking good for next year.

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they have a real chance to run the table the rest of the season. The Eagles are their only real competition for the rest of the way.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

They're not beating the eagles

the only plus to this week: I get to watch them in HD for the first time! For some reason our affiliate in FARGO is showing that game.

So I can see the suckitude like I’m on the field.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The cool thing about the NFL, anyone can beat anyone on any given week.

That being said, I do not think they will win either. But I will root for them to do so dammit!

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep! and my friend pretty much said the niners will win due to the speed of our secondary…. i donno man, 7 turnovers on a cards team that was clicking on O recently…

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

If they can lay those well placed hits consistently then there will be a lot more turnovers.

But the defense I do not think can perform that well. They were getting pressure on Warner with 3 man and 2 man rushes.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, look, if they put pressure on the QB good things happen for the D. Fitzgerald was basically invisible, and Boldin, same thing… Now they got Jackson, a speed guy, Maclin, a speed guy, and Celek a good TE, with an up and coming RB in Mccoy

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Here’s hoping. I would love for the niners to run the table.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

even 8-8 would make me happy

first .500 or above season in 7 years.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, this team is IMPROVING, and that’s all that matters

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this really sums it up for me:
There’s something about watching the 49ers look like a real football team that is hard to put into words. I mean, it’s been nearly a decade. Steve Young has been out of football for 10 years. During that time, we’ve only had three winning seasons. And those don’t even count because I said so.

Sure, I’ve watched plenty of other teams look like they belonged in the league. Between 1991 and 2004, the Bengals never had a winning season. THAT team has been to the playoffs since the last time the 49ers were any good.

The Houston Texans came into the league in 2002. They’ve never been any good. They have always sucked. Since they came into the league, they’ve won 46 regular season games. The 49ers have won 47 during that same period.

The Kansas City Chiefs are one of the worst teams in the entire league. They’ve won 9 games total in the last three years. Even they made the playoffs only four years ago. Their starting quarterback that season was Damon Huard. Let me give you a second to let that sink in. Damon Huard. Playoffs. Kansas City Chiefs. 2006. Damon Huard.

The Arizona Cardinals as a franchise have been to the playoffs twice since a strike shortened 1982 season. During that period – a period of 17 seasons – they’ve had four winning years. And one of those years they only won eight games. Their head coach was Joe Bugel for four years. That franchise was so inept that Joe Bugel lasted FOUR YEARS as their head coach. And they’ve been to the Super Bowl since the last time the 49ers were any good.

So when I look at the 49ers right now, and I see a team that plays like a competent football team, and I see them dominate the NFC Champion Arizona Cardinals on Monday Night Football in front of the entire nation… well, I have a hard time putting that into words. So instead of putting that into words, I’ll just give you the prediction scores.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The worst thing about the Texans bit is that the 49ers 47 wins INCLUDE their 10 win 2002 season.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Was just thinking the same thing.

Then i had a :(

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

wow, we’ve been THAT bad?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

7-9, 2-14, 4-12, 7-9. 5-11, 7-9

That’s our records since we’ve made the playoffs. Yup.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

GOD!

remember that 2-14 year? wouldn’t end

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Kept sayin to myself. Well we can win this one. We can’t lose this one. We aren’t that bad.

:(

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

No it looks like they did not play at all on MNF that season.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call by ABC

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Fun Fact:

SF only two victories that season?

Against the Cardinals.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

By overtime field goals, right?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yup!

and one of them came on a drive where Dorsey got a first down on a 3rd and like 25. They were so insanely lucky to win both games.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

GOD!!! those were the days….. TRUE NINER FANS

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what sports are about

and why I fucking hate bandwagoners. If you’re not willing to suffer the pain, you shouldn’t get to enjoy the winning.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Ummmm, tell that to Bengals fans, Tigers fans, and some giants fans out there for Bonds ONLY. Not sure you can say that about Steelers fans, 2nd favorite team right there, just a class organization

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That's another reason I hate the Vikings so much

there were VERY few vikings fans around here before this year. Fucking douchebags.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

THANK YOU! just ask, where were you guys last year

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

How accepted is it to have semi-dual fandom for NFL teams?

Trying to figure out if it’s OK for me to be a die-hard Niner fan and keep an eye on the Vikes, or if I have to stop liking MN.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends. Were you a Niners fan in the mid-Nineties?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, so true, i was a lions fan with Sanders, also when they had Harrington, i bought a Harrington jersey… But i like the Steelers and can appreciate them

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a toddler in the mid-nineties.

“The Catch II” is my first season of being old enough to pay attention.

I have relatives in MN and have followed the Vikings since about that time as well.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice, i mean, there can be one moment, one play, one player that can spark anybody’s interest in a team, that’s all there is

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

As a kid, I actually left the room and missed the play because I was so nervous. Saw the replays though.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It was one of the most exciting sports moments of my life. Suck it, Packer scum.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, then in that case, follow the— what the fuck there were toddlers in the mid-nineties holy shit.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

WTF.

"…this thing which tells time."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

WTF?
I was a toddler in the mid-nineties.

"…this thing which tells time."

by Cody_ransom on Dec 15, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Did I seriously screw up my math?

I’m guessing this is just disbelief/shock.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You younger than me?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

can I come over

is there any lemonade?
is Stone Phillips hiding in the kitchen?

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by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

1992. Is that younger?

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Same year, what month?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

February

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

September

So youre a senior? what school?

Im at Alhambra

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Gunn.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Heard of it. They were at a polo tournament I was at one time.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t say I’ve heard of Alhambra. But I am on Google Maps right now getting an idea of the location.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Its in Martinez. Youve probably never heard of that either though.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks like I was around that region near the end of the summer when I visited Caltech.

Does that sound right?

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont think so

Im not sure where Caltech is though. There is a town called Alhambra like an hour north. try searching Alhambra Senior High.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh. My google maps image came from googling ‘alhambra high school’. I was judging off martinez’s proximity to pasadena.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really close to Pasadena

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

OK. My sense of the map’s zoom was off a bit, I guess.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Youre in Palo Alto?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. I practically live on Gunn actually.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There are two Alhambra HS in California

One in Alhambra, CA, in southern california.

The real one is in Martinez, which is in the East Bay.

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by DrStankus on Dec 15, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends. What is your stance on Party Sex Boats?

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they’re a good idea on the surface.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

you’ll hate party sex submarines then.

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by DrStankus on Dec 16, 2009 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha, yeah. Both games.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm, maybe it was Arizona in mexico city? it was a nationally televised game where theyg ot BLOWN OUT

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That was in 05

jesus christ what an awful game. They scored 2 defensive TDs right away, and lost 35-14. JOSH FUCKING MCCOWN looked like Peyton Manning.

One thing I remember about the 05 team is that every week they made some 3rd string QB look like the league MVP

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHA! i still have to laugh about that, how pathetic, they had NOOOO DEFENSE! ahmed plummer!!!

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Ben Emmanuel!

Mike Adams! Mike Rumph! Holy shit the defense was awful. Jaime Winborn!

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, i can’t imagine a worse defense, if you can, NAME ONE RIGHT NOW

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever defense Matt Stafford threw 5 touchdown passes against.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Browns

but they looked really good against the Steelers for god’s sakes. When have the niners EVER had a game like that?

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The wookie defense

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

My wookie, I bent it.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lions this year

are pretty close. But I think the 05 niners pretty much take the title. They didn’t really have a single game where they were at all in any way impressive.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

who makes a 3rd string qb look that good?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Madden 05! I know that defense way too well.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That Niners team is the perfect one if you want to rebuild a team from scratch in the draft. I enjoy that kind of stuff.

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by dregarx on Dec 15, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh for sure, i used to trade players and all that shit every time

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I did it in madden 06

you at least get Gore in that one.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Some terrible analogies to a certain baseball team.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That was before I really watched them closely

but yeah, I remember looking at the scores every week and just being bummed. I had no concept of liking a good team.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL BAY AREA FAN

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

a lot of bay area fans have memories of the niners in the 80s and 90s, but I was born in 87 and always liked the niners, but never really payed close attention to football. So I missed out on all the good stuff. Same with the Giants. I watched in 2002, but that’s not exactly a great memory.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, i was born in 88, missed the glory years, saw Young play, heart broke when i watched that play when Young went down, i cried that night. Best giants memory was definitely getting Bill Muellers autograph

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

2002 sure was better than 2008.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2009 12:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

any year with Bonds > any year without him. I just wish I could have been paying attention back then as closely as now, it would have been even better.

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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember 1978/79

when they were 2-14 back to back.

First game I saw was 1980 when they came back down 35-7 at the half against New Orleans.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, it was depressing, and i really was pumped that Dorsey was playing since he went to Miramonte

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

2005

Niners had one of the worst offenses in the HISTORY of offenses.

Put it this way… the (SF) Giants have had an above-average offense more recently than the 49ers.
Just because here are their rank in offense by DVOA

2004 – 29th
2005 – 32nd
2006 – 23rd
2007 – 32nd
2008 – 27th
2009 – 22nd (so far… but approaching average)

That is futility.

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that sums it up pretty good

I started following this team closely in 2005. I’ve never seen them be anything more than a high school joke of a franchise with my own eyes, so this year has been pretty nice all things considered. They finally look like they actually BELONG on the field.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

God I miss the 80’s. Granted I was born in 85, but still.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL – I won’t give you guys the prediction scored, though. That’s privileged content.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. I think that is very possible, but I will be rooting for 9-7!

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Amen

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The San Francisco 49ers: Where mediocrity is progress!

That probably shouldn’t happen.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Dec 15, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Maclin's injured :D

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Possible return for this week

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

but with a torn plantar facia there’s no way he’s a “speed” guy.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, and when you match Brown on Jackson, both speed guys, and Goldson over the top? Willis on Mccoy? damn this will be good

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet Spencer is on Jackson

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Then put Brown on Maclin… yea, sounds good, how is the Eagles O-line???

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh

pretty good. Not great, not terrible. Better than ours (not saying much)

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Compared to the Cards? i mean, actually i shouldn’t ask that since the niners are pretty inconsistent with their pass rush

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably better than AZ's

Mcnabb’s been having a lot of time lately.

9ers rush is inconsistent, coming off a short week, and having to play really early. We’ll see what they’re made of.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, i think they’re carrying some momentum coming into this game off a short week also… They tend to not do well with longer time off

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's hoping

they tend not to do well when they’re not supposed to win. Or when they’re supposed to win for that matter.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

We will see dude, we will see

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I WANT WINNERS

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 15, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

but when’s the last time the niners won a game they weren’t supposed to win? A lot of people might say monday night was an upset, but it wasn’t. They’d already beaten AZ in AZ, and they always play the cards tough. The Niners never win when they’re not supposed to. And they never win when they need to.

That said, I can see it HD so you better believe I’ll be watching.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

More than half the experts on MNF said the Cards were going to win that game. Say what you want about “supposed to win” and all that, but every weekend is different, and that’s what’s great. This is a whole new week against Philly

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The experts on MNF are fucking idiots

like I said, most people would call that an upset, but it wasn’t. If they beat Philly IN Philly, THAT is an upset. Which is why they won’t.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Like i said dude, this is a wholllllleeeeee new weekend, and i’m not putting any expectations on this game at all, just cheer, and the outcome is what it is. Anyone really EXPECT the niners to get in the playoffs? if they do then let’s go nuts, but don’t get your hopes up for it

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, I'm with ya

so long as they show up it will be a fun one. The awesome thing this year has been that they’ve only been blown away in one game. That is a total departure from previous years.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

and guess what, that was the ONLY falcons win away from home

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

lol us

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, not that great… Only game of the year where i truly felt hopeless

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh

if Bly didn’t fumble that INT the game could have been a lot different.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, but boy, they really got their shit together after that didn’t they, little by little… may not have been great, but shit happens

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Young picked the Niners!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

HOMER

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The guy who actually knows the situation

THE 49ERS ALREADY BEAT THE CARDS ON THE ROAD GUYS. I wish people on TV knew something about the sport they talk about.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The Cardinals have been playing a lot better since then, and the Niners a lot worse.

Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Dec 15, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

No, they really haven't

the niners were terrible in that game. The defense was OK, but the offense was god fucking awful. The offense has been way better lately.

And the Cardinals can’t be consistent to save their lives. Anyone who thinks they can be relied on to win any singular game hasn’t been paying attention.

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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

You could say the same thing about the team that came within one miracle catch from winning the Super Bowl this year. Fact is, when they’re both playing their best, the Cardinals would win every time.

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by cheno on Dec 16, 2009 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Also add: They lose games with the worst possible timing.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

They play to the level of their opponents sometimes

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

50% of the country is getting the 49ers-Eagles.

"meh"

by SFGuy on Dec 16, 2009 12:45 AM PST up reply actions  

YEAH baby

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by bondslegend on Dec 16, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

which is lucky for me

because I’ll be in Vancouver, WA (near portland)… I didn’t really want to get up early and try to find a sports bar.

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

yep, i agree, basically niners have to win out… and the Dallas can only win 1, ATL must lose 1, and giants must lose 2… ALL ARE POSSIBLE

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, LOL Dallas, also Atlanta is possible. I just do not see the Giants losing to both Washington and Carolina.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s AT washington, primetime… and there’s one other game for them, who do they play?

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

At Minnesota in the season finale. I see the Vikings winning that one.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

They MIGHT lose to Washington, but Carolina???? their O has to come together for that one, panthers i mean

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck

I really don’t want to root for the vikings. God damnit.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

GOT TO DUDE, only way they can make it into the playoffs

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not think they will need your rooting to win that game. The Giants defense apparently thought the season was only 5 games long.

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

but I just don’t want to have to root for that outcome. Even last sunday night when them losing would have helped the 9ers I couldn’t root for them. I hate them so much.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, would helped them, would have been 1 game back instead of 2

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

ALSO

if Cards lose 2 out of 3 (har har), and we win out we win the division.
That would require the Lions or Rams to step up … oh and the Packers to win in week 17 when they have certainly clinched a WC spot.

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by zenbitz on Dec 16, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep all are possible…

by PiKAgiant on Dec 16, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

66 days…

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Pencil it in

April 28 – PHI @ SF
Halladay vs. Lincecum

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Dec 15, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

HEY WE AGREE ON SOMETHING!!!! also on the niners pass rush problems…. or lack there of now

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

hey, how ’bout that crabtree?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

MORE LIKE CASHTREE!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH LOLZ LULZ!!!! yea dude, he had a SICK grab yesterday

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

his hands were going for the ball, all the while he’s also positioning his body for the subsequent run—very nice.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, AND he’s making great routes and cutting at the perfect time to the ball

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Its his late hands movement that i really like about him. If defenders are playing him by trying to watch him, he often does not make a move to the ball till the last moment, it’s awesome.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, i can definitely see that, i saw it in that Houston game, plus he has that uncanny ability to just WANT the ball more than the opponent

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Somebody here called that one

I’m having a hard time remembering though. Maybe someone could remind me?

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK AND YEAH

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahmad Brooks is the next James Harrison

you heard it here first. Man that guy is a freak.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

WOW, that’s a strong statement… There’s just something about Ahmad Brooks that i really like, he has shown flashes lately

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Who was james harrison before he was "JAMES HARRISON"?

undrafted dude who nobody wanted. The steelers CUT HIM three times.

Brooks looks like he could be the same kind of story.

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by bondslegend on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Undrafted out of Kent State, and yea, he’s not having the same season he had last year, but still is crazy good for an outside LB or DE

by PiKAgiant on Dec 15, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

less then a page to go!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:45 PM PST reply actions  

This was a short thing you were working on, wasn’t it?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh lord, rough draft, two page paper! Give me 15 minutes.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, to be fair, Im posting on here, on facebook, listening to music and had no idea what i was writing about untill I actually started typing. I also took time off to eat dinner, decorate my christmas tree, and study for my Bio test tomorow

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

We’ve got to keep posting until Graham finishes his homework!

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t let the conversation die!

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t let the sun go down on me!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

We have a problem, Grant posted a new story on the front page.

JUMP TO THE NEW THREAD!

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Can I sing Elton John lyrics there?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Would it be the internet if you couldn’t?

"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball

by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Did he type it in invisible ink?

I dont see it

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Not until Grant posts a link here!

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks to some generous spacing and the fact that im tired and still have a bunch of homework

Im done!

Feel free to sleep.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:10 PM PST reply actions  

We are free!

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by shanghaijim on Dec 15, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

we all are Pedro-free

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Dec 15, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

2010: The Year We Freak Out About Backup Catcher Contracts

Assuming we can believe anything Brain says, and Posey is indeed going to start the year in the Lap of Luxury, why is anyone afraid to sign a catcher to a two year deal, if that is what it takes to get a decent one (whoever might be left)?

Surely none of these characters are going to command the zillions that will be thrown at the Pod Person, LaRoche, and all the other objects of fancy. It’s a relative pittance, and it’s a critically important position if this team actually somehow gets insanely good pitching again and manages to buck the 8 year small sample size trend of ML-worst offenses.

There is no one else on the roster to backup Posey next year either, assuming he hits the ground running (or runs the ground hitting) and is in there by July. There won’t be anyone else next year. If it means getting a decent catcher, I don’t see why a 2 year deal for a catcher is such a nightmare to people, considering all the many more realistic nightmares that really are haunting everyone here, all frantically posting about pokemonzz and term papers to forget the pencils Botchy is sharpening to write “4. Dye” on the lineup card every day next season.

And if, by some chance, Jackson Williams or whoever turns out to be the second coming of Ernie Lombardi, surely one of the extra catchers can then be traded to some other team who has an injury. Right? I just don’t see the backup catcher signing as that big of a disaster… IF a decent catcher is signed. For example, giving John Buck two years would have been absolutely fine by me, because I’d much rather watch him play for the first four months of the season than Whiteside or Ike Hampton or whoever will be run out there while Buster gets heat stroke in Fresno.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."

by natteringnabob on Dec 15, 2009 10:14 PM PST reply actions  

No me gusta cuando mi prosfesor de espanol nos da muy tarea.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:44 PM PST reply actions  

Lo siento, NERD.

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by scout6 on Dec 15, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

No entiendo esta palabra. Que significa “nerd”?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 15, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

giants

I made the point last post that the Giants only need two good hitters and then they are a championship caliber team. Someone pointed out that five good hitters are needed. I’d add that I agree that more than two players need to hit well. However, if you add Posey to the two players I think neeed to be acquired than that is three. I think F. Sanchez and Schierholtz have the potential to be quality hitters and would benefit from hitting in a better lineup.

I also meant that they need to get two really good hitters to surround Sandoval, not just Nick Johnson and Xavier Nady.

My point too was that you have to think about the Giants like it is an endgame in chess. Ryan Garko is just irrelevant in this way. The Giants are a threat to win the World Series now as long as they have Lincecum and Cain and especially if Bumgarner becomes like a third ace. They could win playoff games now without a really good offense. It needs to be substantially better than it is, but they’re out of rebuilding now. They don’t need to try to sign a lot of mediocre hitters just because they score so few runs.

I bet a better lineup would make current hitters more patient.

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