Ryan Garko not tendered a contract
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 10:22 PM PST
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Help me out. Pick the most reasonable option. Did the Giants...
a. judge a player on 100 at-bats. Like, they honestly, truthfully thought that 100 at-bats were enough to change their minds about a player, or
b. not really scout a player they acquired in a trade for the third-best pitching prospect in their system
Because it can't be both. The Giants might have been excited to acquire Garko, only to watch 100 at-bats -- which included a lot of hard-hit outs, mind you -- and think, oh, this guy isn't a major leaguer at all! Never mind the previous 1500 at-bats; I don't know what pimply faced intern recorded those in-game events, but they shouldn't be trusted.
Or they traded for a guy because he was one of the only players available, and they were horrified when he showed up with a looping, pop-up machine of a swing. "I thought you said this guy was good!" "I didn't say that, you said that!"
According to Extra Baggs, the Giants have a contract offer out to Adam LaRoche. That's swell. All things being equal, I'd rather have LaRoche over Garko. That's not the choice, though. The choice is between LaRoche and Garko carrying a suitcase filled with $15M to $25M, which is probably going to be the difference between the two players for the next two years.
This, combined with the idea that Eugenio Velez might start in left field, means that Brian Sabean and Bruce Bochy really believe that it's a good idea to form lasting opinions based on random stretches of at-bats. I suspected as much, but the confirmation stings. Garko's slump happened to come when he was first acquired. Failure! Horrible specimen of a player! Velez's hot streak came when he was recalled from Fresno. Rapture! He's figured it out!
Once again, I have to look around to see if Rod Serling is narrating my life as I type this. I don't mind the non-tendering if it means the Giants will improve the team. I'd rather have Nick Johnson, even if he'd cost a lot more extra scratch. But what I mind is that nothing should have changed between acquisition and non-tendering. Nothing. If the Giants thought Garko was good enough to give up a top-ten prospect in July, they sure as hell should have thought he was worth $1M or $2M in December. A handful of at-bats shouldn't have changed anyone's mind.
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Yep.
+1 to everything
this is an embarrassment.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
+some unreasonably large number because I agree so very hard.
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by can of corn on Dec 12, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
I can only hope the reasoning behind this move is that the options for improving at first base via free agency are better than any other infield spot. Granted, it would be nice to see that 15-25 put to use and still have Garko at first, but if the best option is to use that cash to make Garko a better player, I can get behind that.
To be honest, I’d prefer to see Garko gone and Nick Johnson manning the corner than Garko at 1st and one of two former White Sox (take your pick) scampering about the China Basin grass.
can I interest you in Adam LaRoche
unable to field his position because his pockets are full of gold coins and he’s carrying a gigantic sack of bearer bonds?
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by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:42 AM PST up reply actions
Shrunk
I thought the sacks of Barry Bonds shrunk….oh, you said Bearer Bonds
The Giants knew what the options for improving at first base via free agency were going to be when they traded for Garko. Nothing has changed about how good of options Garko and these guys are. If they thought people like Johnson or LaRoche were superior to Garko at the time, they never should have traded for Garko. Period.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
If you’ll recall, they had to ‘go for it’ because they were ‘in that thing’.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
that’s not true, either. Lot’s of things change during the season, especially with players available for trades. Johnson was clearly going to be a free agent , but it would’t have shocked me to see LaRoche sign a two year deal during the Braves’ exclusive negotiating window, and it did shock me to see the BoSox tender Kotchman a contract. It is always a fluid situation and to approach it as otherwise would be foolish.
So the whole difference in the situation is that LaRoche might not have ended up as a free agent and that’s the reason they’re non-tendering Garko now?
Johnson and LaRoche didn’t cost a whole lot to acquire. They probably could have been had for Scott Barnes. If they wanted those guys, they should have traded for them in the first place.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Seriously
LaRoche took a minor league pitcher not as good as Barnes and a Latino version of Brian Bocock for the Red Sox to acquire.
Johnson took a minor league pitcher not as good as Barnes to acquire.
if they wanted those guys, they should have just traded for them at the time.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Shoulda done alot of things, in retrospect. Truth is, what you should have done is completely irrelevant, unless you take some sadistic joy in saying i told you so.
Garko was not good for the giants. He did not fit well within the organization. He is a good player and I wish him luck elsewhere, but I am glad he was not tendered a contract so the giants can focus on improving the position, which is still the weakest infield spot.
by fantastical on Dec 13, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
If he’s a good player, why did he not “fit” well? He’s a first baseman, which has been a position of need for years.
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I’m not a member of the team, so I can only guess as to details. Maybe the move from AL to NL was a bit jarring, maybe his personality didn’t gel with Bochy’s, maybe SF isn’t where he wanted to play, who knows.
I agree that it’s a bummer we gave up a pitcher for him and got very little in return. Such are the risks of midseason trades. Now is not the time to stubbornly hope he makes a rebound, unfortunately. I’d rather see the team take a chance on someone else who has a greater chance of producing.
by fantastical on Dec 13, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
maybe his personality didn’t gel with Bochy’s
There is starting to be a decent sized list of under 30 year old team controls players whose personality has not gelled with Big Head. To date none of these guys are world beaters but they certainly would have provided the Giants with equal, if not better, production for less cost than Big Head’s over age 32 favorites. At some point perhaps it is the manager that needs to be taken to the wood shed and not the young players.
As for not being stubborn and hoping for a rebound there is some truth to that. Of course there are a lot more reasons to think Garko would rebound then Fred Sanchez yet we both know where the team of Bochey/Sabean decided to place their chips. Sabean better have doozey of a move lined up and inked for 1st base in 2010 or this is looking a lot like the 1970’s Giatns.
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Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with your first paragraph. If the manager is preventing players from playing well, he needs to go. Look at the difference Jim Tracy made when he replaced Clint Hurdle. Many players on the Rockies came out and said Hurdle’s confrontational attitude played havoc with the team’s chemistry.
Now, I don’t expect every player and every manager to get along perfectly. With the exception of Lewis, Frandsen, and Garko, Bochy’s track record is pretty damn good. Like it or not, he’s the team’s manager for the next year or two, barring a horrible start to the season. I’d like to see one of the minor league managers get a chance with the big club soon, but Bochy’s the guy right now.
As far as Sanchez goes, resigning him was definitely a gamble. However, it seems a much safer gamble than Garko would have been. Sanchez is an NL player who, when healthy, was hitting well in clutch situations for the giants. I’m more confident of him having a good 2010 than Garko.
by fantastical on Dec 13, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
So when was the last time Sanchez was healthy, 2007? If that is the case he is the health risk of almost of Nick Johnson scale. He is going into his age 32 season, a time when most players also reduce their play time even if healthy, and derives all his production from being agile enough to defend well and with his batting average.
Kelsko is at least on the under side of 30 ( so he does have chance to have break out year), has a MLB track record of better OBP & ISO and can hit LHP well. Also there is better bet his body can handle 1100+ innnings on the field than Sanchez.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
I think Kelsko is Kelsko+Garko, but it’s a stretch.
I’m not expecting another 2006 from Freddy, but I still think he’ll produce at a respectable major league level. Plus, if you are going to holler about how Garko shouldn’t be judged poorly off of a small sample size, you shouldn’t do the same for Freddy’s 100 SF at bats.
That is twice today I typed then posted Klesko and meant Garko. Definitely need more coffee.
An ways I am not "hollering" on Small sample size here. I am actually "hollering" on a larger sample size. When was the last time Fred Sanchez was healthy 2007? That is significant sample body there.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
I’m not wild about Freddy Sanchez. However, I saw one of two options:
1) Keep Garko, non-tender Freddy, give up prospects in a trade for Uggla.
2) Keep Freddy, non-tender Garko, pay a free agent to play 1st.
It appears the organization chose route #2, and I’m glad for it. The giant’s farm system is the strongest aspect of the organization right now, and I’d rather not see it further mined. I mourn the loss of Alderson and Barnes, and have faith in Bumgarner and Wheeler to pan out into major league hurlers.
Option 1 is a red herring of a choice. There are, and were, a lot of other options for 2nd base beside Uggla or Fred Sanchez. And that has been covered very well elsewhere on this site.
The rub here is the that a gamble involving $12MM on an older player that has done well for a full year just once in 3 years is considered far smarter and more likely to pan out than a $2-3MM gamble on a under 30 year old whose skill set is not on the 25 man roster. That should trip off a lot of warning lights in fans head.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
You make a good point. All I meant by those two choices is that the team didn’t seem to have room for both Garko and Sanchez and still make a solid middle of the order improvement without going all out for HolliBay.
2-3mil for Garko or 6mil per year for Sanchez. Either way it’s a multimillion dollar gamble on a player producing as he has in the past.
To be fair, in 2006 Sanchez was one of best players in the league. He doesn’t have to repeat that performance to contribute.
No one here, that i am aware of is calling for Sanchez to repeat his 2006 season. But let’s be honest here the list of guys that have sudden carrer year before age 30 is a heck of a lot longer then the list of guys suddenly haveing a carrer year after age 30.
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Brain SabeanOranother.
How did he not fit well?
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He was fat.
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he forgot to hit
eleventy one home runs in a season
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
This is stupid
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by bondslegend on Dec 13, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
In no way did Garko "not fit"
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He didn’t do what he was expected to do, didn’t appear to gel well with the team chemistry.
I know you can’t measure team chemistry with stats, but it is a factor. Plus, it’s not like Garko’s SF stats help his case anyway.
I don’t think Garko is a bad player. I think he will have success elsewhere. I wish the best for him. I look forward to the giants signing a new, better, first basemen for 2010.
What is this based off of? Is there a report of Garko having disputes with other players?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
We’re all in a position where the best we can do is speculate as to the reasons behind the decisions of the team. I’ve heard he doesn’t see eye to eye with the manager, and given that such a complain doesn’t seem to be the norm, I believe the problem is Garko, not Bochy.
I know many people on this forum see things differently in regards to Bochy and Sabean. In the organization’s defense, I suspect that they wouldn’t have let Garko go if they weren’t close on signing a higher profile free agent.
I’ve heard he doesn’t see eye to eye with the manager,
Where did you hear this?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Highly classified source within the organization. I am not authorized to reveal more information at this time.
Niether has, Lewis ( evidently) nor Corriea, nor Frandsen, nor Hennessy. At what point does this stop being the underr 30 years fault?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
I’ll even take Cookyman’s point one step farther.
If Tim is so thrilled with Big Head why has he been staying year to year instead of getting some extra guaranteed money while he is under team control? Occam’s Razor would (simplest logical answer) is he have left the guaranteed money of the table because he wants the ability to leave should things not fit him. For a second year player to be even be eyeing the door like that is pretty damning.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 14, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
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is that you?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
lol ok
sorry, that carries zero weight with me.
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Boy
You’ve got to carry that weight
Carry that weight a long time
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Bruce Bochy’s a pretty nice girl but she doesn’t have a lot to say
Bruce Bochy’s a pretty nice girl
But his lineups change from day to day
I want to tell her I love Fred a lot
But MCC’s got a bellyfull of whine
Bruce Bochy’s a pretty nice girl
Someday he’s gonna make Velez shine, oh yeah,
Someday he’s gonna make Velez shine
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by jcb9 on Dec 13, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
holy inconsistent gender pronouns!
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The visual isn’t nice either.
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Why not?
I think it makes just as much sense that the Giants ditched a guy based on “gel”, “chemistry” and “fit” as the two options Grant listed. Was it the 100 ABs? Faulty scouting before trading? Or did Garko ask for more playing time and then accidentally say hello to Fred or Frandsen or something and get labeled a “bad soldier.” Even if you don’t believe Fantastical has special insider info, you can respect the explanation he puts forward.
Once upon a time I respected the Giants FO for their personnel decisions on character. Dump Livan. End AJ. But it all seems ridiculous now. Are the Giants making crap judgments on tiny samples. Or do they really think “bad soldiers” make bad teams?
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
Yeah, I'm sure that's why they got rid of him
but anyone who agrees with that is wrong. Im sorry, but if they don’t sign someone like Nick Johnson then this was a huge mistake. Garko is better than any other option they currently have on the roster.
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Agreed
. . .And then there is one other Garko issue: the guy is a horrible, horrible defensive player. Nevertheless, Sabean must have known that when he gave up Barnes.
Don't believe everything you think.
Yeah
this
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How did he not gel with team chemistry? He didn’t play well but he seemed to get along well with everyone and was doing Pablo’s workout plan with him a month ago.
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I hear he peed on Sabean's laptop
But since Sabean doesn’t know how to use a computer – how to “work one of those machines,” if you will – he never noticed.
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How did Sabean’s Laptop adoptive father react to this?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
I think that's xanthan
Who also introduced Butt Pee to the McCoven. So I’m sure he’s not too offended.
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which reminds me
I wonder: is there going to be another MCC adoption draft this offseason, or…?
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/signs up
/really wants to finally adopt a Giant
Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG
Last year it was run by WalrusMan
And he hasn’t been around much lately, so I dunno.
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I’ll volunteer to take over this year if need be.
…
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 13, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t really know how the actual adoptions work or I’d volunteer. Say hey would probably do a great job, seeing as how he’s a politician…. wait….
Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG
Last year it went by tenure on the site
There was a fanpost about it and everyone who wanted to do it was sorted by most comments.
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That,
coupled with Roger’s generosity, is how I lucked into PANDA POWER.
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LIAR AND A CHEET
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WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 13, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
We didn’t all go to Gudger College.
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and stupid
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 13, 2009 2:32 AM PST up reply actions
So does Sabes
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 12, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
My world is ruined.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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I fucking hate this team's FO.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 12, 2009 10:29 PM PST reply actions
That was dumb.
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LOL GIANTSRAINMAN
Bumgarner absolutely needs a year in Fresno.
A month ago, I never expected Molina to be back. But the way the Giants have clung to him, and even started Whiteside over Posey – and with Posey starting 1/10 and thus sucking – I’m increasingly expecting a stupid Molina contract extension.
I assume Garko gets non-tendered an Lewis gets dumped, yeah. Like I said, I forgot about Ishikawa. Maybe he’ll be back – the Giants seem to like to carry multiple first basemen.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up actions 0 recs
And Penny, I really have no idea.
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by jcb9 on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up actions 0 recs
No Way Garko Is Non Tendered.
by giantsrainman on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up actions 0 recs
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/9/28/1058951/predict-the-2010-opening-day-roster#21953992
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Nicely played
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by groug on Dec 12, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
like rain man
NAILED IT
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
Like this?
Cutting Garko Would Be Insane.
While cutting Medders and Miller would just be stupid.
by giantsrainman on Aug 24, 2009 2:51 PM PDT
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
doesn’t mean he was wrong, it just means he didn’t expect Sabean to be this stupid. If he was able to get Garko for a prospect, why couldn’t he tender Garko and then trade him and get something back? As for not seeing eye to eye with Bochy, neither do we. I guess the last straw for Garko was when Bochy benched him against even righties, moving Sandoval to first and playing Uribe at third. I guess it’s not the “Giants way” to disagree openly with the manager.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
correct that to benching him against even lefties
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
except, as I copy-and-pasted elsewhere, he also said....
No Way Garko Is Non Tendered.
by giantsrainman on Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up actions 0 recs
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yeah, I should have said that rainman was wrong, but shouldn’t have been. He assumed that Sabean had a brain and knew how to work the phone.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Clearly it was a simple typo...
…he meant to write “No Way! Garko Is Non Tendered.”
Punc, punc, punc, punc-tuation!
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by EliminateMe on Dec 14, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Looking at the post All Star break moves I am seriously considering rooting for something like a 4 and 30 start to the season. At least that would force some sort of house cleaning in the management ranks, right?
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LAWLZ YOU BLIND HATER
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I’m kind of getting sick of history repeating.
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History = Dumb fuck moves
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Getting a Snuggie
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 12, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
off-topic
My wife and I watched Sugar tonight. It was really good. And also sad. And I couldn’t help but watch it with Villalona in mind.
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It managed to be both good and unsatisfying. I bought it as one of my dad’s christmas presents, and I’m not sure if he’ll like it or not.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
/Yakkity Sax
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 12, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
win
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
LaRoche, for example, wanted a three-year, $31.5 million deal.
Good god no. This better not happen.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I'm not anti-LaRoche
But that would be crazy. Which means it’ll probably happen.
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HIs 2008 and 2009 numbers would’ve made him our second best hitter, behind Sandoval.
I’m not exactly in love with him, though. I’d much rather have Johnson.
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I think she said that
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 12, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
I seem to recall her mentioning something about this
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
not if she’s the Mayor of Houston. I guess this another place Jason Bay won’t play.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
I don’t remember her saying anything about Houston.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
yknow...
I’d take another JT Snow right now. He was overshadowed by some pretty monstrous bats, but he had his run of pretty damn menacing years. Good bat with a good glove makes for good panda support.
Who most represents that? LaRoche or NJ? Not Garko, from what I’ve seen (admittedly little).
Nominating “Panda Support” for the theme of 2010’s offense.
“pretty damn menacing years”? Enh. He was quite good in 1997 and 2004, but otherwise he was never anything more than an adequate hitter.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Granted, his power numbers took a dive after the team left Candlestick. But he got on base at a good rate, even through his worst offensive years.
NJ might actually be a pretty similar player to JT. How’s his glove?
I said JT Snow, except not as patient.
Which means “Like JT Snow, except without redeeming qualities at the plate”
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
if by "adequate hitter"
you mean better than most options on the roster or likely to be overpaid to be on the roster, then I agree.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
I’m pining for some adequacy right about now..
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
it HAS to happen now
because they let Garko walk, now having wasted last year’s bold and daring move to trade for him in the first place.
RETCON DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
Figgins is so much better than this guy and he wants more money per year and only one year less…please
by DFAAurillia on Dec 12, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't sign LaRoche
for a 3yr deal or 10 Mil per yr. He’s not that good…hell he’s not that much better than Garko.
Holy crap balls! That is a lot of money for a rather mediocre player.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
No
we’re getting DeRosa and podsenik. Fucking mark that shit down. God I’m fucking pissed today. The combo of the Giants and the FUCKING BULLSHIT VIKINGS GETTING EVERY FUCKING BULLSHIT CALL IS GOING TO MAKE MY GODDAMN HEAD EXPLODE. FUCK.
I FUCKING HATE THE FUCKING BULLSHIT VIKINGS.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 13, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Did you FUCKING mark that shit down, though?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
GOOD
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Grad school final term papers suck.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
If 2010-2011 is anything like 2008-2009 for some people, I would probably think back home with mom and dad.
"meh"
Yea, not sure if i’m going to be here in Ohio or Chicago… or back home in the bay area for grad school
Geography?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Good stuff
Hopefully I can be in Northern California for my Ph D.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
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History
We’ll see though. I might not end up going for the Ph D
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Prof
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I'm hopefully going to be starting on a PhD next year
English for me
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I pondered English a little bit
Because I like literary criticism. But at the end of the day, I couldn’t see myself doing that for the rest of my life.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I initially read that as you saying you liked literary theory, and I was going to stare at you like you were crazy. Theory was my least favorite part of grad school during my MA. Fucking incomprehensible for the sake of incomprehension fucks.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Theory = mostly terrible
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Ah, yes. I remember once reading that gobbledygook prior to a session of Post-Colonial Literature. Some time later, I bought a gun.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2009 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Yes it is.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
It’s about as hard as ever to get in to grad school these days. No jobs= everyone’s going back to school. I’m trying to get in to Ph.D programs (Physics) at the moment and am applying to schools considerably worse than I would have 3 years ago just because the competition is so intense. Good luck though.
To quote Billy Madiosn…“Stay here. Stay here as long as you can. For the love of God, cherish it. You have to cherish it.”
I miss college. This law school thing is hard work haha
by DFAAurillia on Dec 12, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
law school was my plan after graduation until I watched my girlfriend go through it. No thank you. Recently finding out she passed the bar was probably the happiest day of her life….the next morning she awoke hung-over to an email notifying her that she had to start paying her law school loan payments at the end of the month.
Thing A
Oh man, loan payments are going to be brutal. There will be a week of hang-overs after getting that letter.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Recently finding out she passed the bar was probably the happiest day of her life…
Someday I’ll tell you about the happiest night of her life
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
How does Goofus know your girlfriend?
I’d be askin’ some serious questions, dude.
Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo.
Goofus met her on the way to your mom’s house.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 13, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Finals or the sucking ass?
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not looking forward to grading two batches of 50 finals. Blech. It’s my own fault for how I design my courses though.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
I actually love finals time. I keep telling myself to study but I end up not studying at all and acing all my finals. Same pattern for the past seven years.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Dec 13, 2009 5:29 AM PST up reply actions
I would go to the New England Aquarium every semester during finals week.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Sounds fun. Finals week is definitely the least stressful part of the semester.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Dec 13, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
The thing about finals week
Is that it’s usually a week or two after term papers, which are the most stressful part of the semester.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Even though I got called out to the field three days ago, am still stuck out here 90 miles from home, it’s very cold and wet, it still beats finals any day of the week. So glad those all all behind me now. It gets better.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
Yea, also i think you wouldn’t have to worry about finals if you did well during the semester, you know?
+1. If you don’t know you’re shit by that point, you’re probably just praying to pass.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
The real world is better
You’re handed similar stressful activities, but they pay you instead of the other way around.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
But you can’t sleep in till noon.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
You cant show up drunk, or can you?
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Only if it’s Hennigens.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
SPOILER ALERT
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Luckily I brought an extra suit with me. We headed back inside Building 2 and I hit the bathroom for a quick change. Tim also changed, once we both emerged Tim thanked me and signed some autographs. What a down-to-earth guy for such a superstar!
Cain is gonna be jealous.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Like a hole in the head...
$100 bones says Tim had to light up a joint to calm his nerves after all that pressure to appease ESPN and their equipment wasn’t up to speed.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 13, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I can get bones for free.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
I was pumped to get to meet the man with the 100-mile per hour fastball.
I can’t remember the last time I saw Timmy throw 100 mph
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 13, 2009 2:40 AM PST up reply actions
Might have been more fun if they’d used Pat the Patriot instead of Minuteman Sam
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Dear Brian Sabean:
Please leave now. I no longer wish to have you anywhere near this team. All I can say is that you better have a deal in place for an upgrade that just hasn’t been announced yet. (It just makes me so mad, we’re currently planning on starting velez and renteria, and one of the few near average hitters we have gets released because he “fell out of favor” with the manager based on a couple months. God fucking damn.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on Dec 12, 2009 10:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
this
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 12, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
What you assholes don’t get is that Velez hit well in the first 100 at-bats of an easily marked transition. Garko didn’t. Y’all can go snuggle with your friend Garko, but the rest of us adults have an offense to build.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
9 Telltale Signs You’re Probably an Asshole
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 12, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
I come to terms that I’d be stoked on Velez opening the season as a starter IF it means no PODS. Please no PODS.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 7:21 AM PST up reply actions
I actually liked #6
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
And #8 is just plain true.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
I made friends with one of the guys who runs a Pakistani restaurant in the tenderloin. I kinda sympathize with #4.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 12, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
But this is a guy that hits three run HR's!
Remember that Bochy quote? But because he didn’t do it enough in his first 100 at bats he’s gone…
And honestly....
LaRoche isn’t very good against lefties. Garko is. And would only cost like $2 mil more max.
I mean, seriously…..?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Oh joy...
can’t wait for LaRoche to get off to his annual 0 for April start and then Bochy can sit his three years and 30 million on the bench for the foreseeable future. I’d rather go another season with Ishikawa at first than overpay for this loser…
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 12, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions
This is actually a serious concern. 30 million gone, one month in.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
LOL
Uribe over Garko LaRoche
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Tim fucking Alderson for 100 fucking at bats
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT WORTH AN EXTENSION. WHAT THE FUCK.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
OR SCOTT BARNES. WHATEVER
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 12, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
BOTH TRADES WERE STUPID
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 12, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
Nah. Wouldn’t have won the wild card without them.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
I hate you, Grant.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
What bondslegend said...
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
It's good to let the RAGE flow once again
I’ve been missing it a little. Fortunately i root for a team that gives me plenty of opportunities.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 12, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
And you live in the Great Plains….
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Nah that doesn't make me angry
the only thing that makes me angry about it is being around the fucking idiot vikings fans who actually think their fucking joke of a team is good.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 13, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
but you have to admit
at least they let half a year go by before bothering to do anything at all, making it that much stupider when they actually did it.
Just remember, at least they signed FSanchy to a nice contract, so there’s that. WOOHOO
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
Rough day for Jose Arredondo. First it was announced that he would have surgery and miss 2010. Then right at the deadline, the Angels decided against tendering him an offer. Matt Brown and Dustin Moseley were given their walking papers as well.
Harsh move by the Halos. Arredondo was really good in 2008
He might be a target for 2011.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I would love him on the cheap. Throws Threw gas
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Harsh, but understandable
Would you tender a guy who was going to miss the entire season?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
ha ha
he’s too tender to tender!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
where is the tenderness?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
sometimes women get woolly
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
I want to write this off as a series of poor decisions because the playoff race caught the team off guard, and it made people make hasty, unreasonable moves. But I doubt that any lessons were learned from all this by the people who sorely need to learn them.
funny
I thought at the time that although made a half-season too late, both trades were at least made with the idea that they would improve the Giants last year AND this year.
Sadly, that was horribly wrong. Maybe Barnes and Frandsen both ran over Sabean’s dog/wife/vodka bottle.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
So Goofus isn’t the only one with a dog that doubles as his wife and vodka bottle.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
That joke seemed funnier in my head
Sorry Goofus
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Whoa....
Didn’t realize I had written this back in the day…
Forget the young pitching in the organization and forget the presence of a teenaged slugger in Low-A; the Giants need the best player they can get. The other part of me is a positional scarcity guy. A team is better off with, say, Victor Martinez and Ryan Garko than it would be with Rod Barajas and Mark Teixeira. Normal, non-Giant teams can usually find a Ryan Garko somewhere, but a catcher like Martinez or Brian McCann is harder to find. I probably err on the side of “best player available”, but it’s close. A fortune cookie could change my mind if the fortune were worded well enough.
From my should we draft Posey? thread…
Just 52 comments on that one?
Whoa…
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This post has 100 comments
On a Saturday night on the topic of a below average player being non-tendered. This site has exploded.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
That’s why I can afford to drive a Corolla. Livin’ the dream, fellas. Livin’ the dream.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
What do you have to do with the site’s popularity…?
/flagged
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
You’re just using us to get click-throughs on ads for the revenue!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Did I mention that my Corolla has a spoiler? Yep, it’s an “S”-package Corolla — for the sporty, daredevil set.
I think of all of you as I top out at 90.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
You drive like
Barry Zito used to pitch
by Gobroks on Dec 12, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, Grant sure teed that one up
Nonetheless, well played.
+86 MPH fastball.
Bengie: Like an Aurilia kidney stone, slow-moving and tough to get out.
Speaking from personal experience
Having an above average season got me really in to Giants again, and caused me to seek out a Giants community. Last year, I could have probably named the major league starters, but I had no idea about the minors almost at all. I love what McC has given me… a drastic increase in fandom.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
The farm system gave me hope last season
This season, after the trades of Alderson and Barnes, Bumgarner’s late-season velo issues, Posey being in a little bit of a limbo, Gillaspie’s lack of power, Angel’s situation… I’m just like :-(
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Dec 12, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Look on the bright side though:
Neal and Runzler
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 12, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
A catcher to help keep Posey’s seat warm for two months!
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
/ holds envolope to forehead
Now batting lead off – Jason Kendell!!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
No, we will trade 2 of Craqwford, Neal and Runzler for him come mid season instead!!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
and bench Olivo
who will sign for 5/$50 milliion
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
The bad news is
Sabes will trade every single one of them for mediocre major leaguers with veteran savvy.
"meh"
And then release them after 100 at bats!
by GiantFaninDodgerLand on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 AM PST up reply actions
It’s tough to add something to that.
“He’s a college player who looks like he could be a good hitter! Awesome! But he might not work out! Not awesome! But that’s not a poor reflection on him because the failure rate of draftees is extremely high! Also not awesome, but not in a way that reflects poorly on Buster Posey!”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Probably to sleep with Sabean’s wife. So we won’t be acquiring him.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Imagine how pissed Sabean’s wife is gonna be when we cut Nick Johnson after 100 at bats.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 13, 2009 2:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
'Sabean's wife' GIS results
A large percentage of the results from from MCC.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
This is the #1 result for 'Bochy's wife'
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
did his head get in way of the camera?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 13, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Either that or he’s married to a deep, dark abyss.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Gaping
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
A woman was very concerned about the size of her opening
best joke ever.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Or hey, maybe he's married to the large hadron collider
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’d tap that
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 13, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
But...
…could you tap the back of it?
/ducks flying E*IUD
*Electromagnetic, duhh!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 14, 2009 1:25 AM PST up reply actions
Still not a sound idea to give him away for 100 at-bats.
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
Eh
He gave up way too many homers, but the fact that he kept his strikeout rate up is encouraging.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
NO ITS NOT
WHY IS IT ENCOURAGING WHEN ANOTHER TEAMS PROSPECT DOES SOMETHING GOOD
SHUT UP
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U BOTH R 5
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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U R ALL 5
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 12, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
R U
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 12, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Especially when you say
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 13, 2009 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
You know
I think there’s a third possibility, Grant, in addition to the Giants trading for Garko without scouting him or judging him based on 100-ish at bats:
Maybe they did know what they were getting, didn’t think all that much of Garko to begin with, but pulled the trigger anyway because they felt they had to do something so they wouldn’t look like they were sitting on their hands. They hoped maybe they’d catch lightning in a bottle because Garko seemed hot at the time of the trade, and then when that happened, they were just like, “Oh well, we kicked the tires and tried,” and then moved on.
Meh.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
But this option doesn’t allow for as much rage and finger-pointing. I vote no.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno, it makes me pretty rageful
Trading away a prospect because “you have to do something!!!!” is a pretty shitty way to run a team.
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oh, I see
Didn’t think of it that way. I wonder why Dad never let me run the company…
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
My theory
is that they were hoping Garko would instantly start tearing it up to help make the push for the wild card. When he didn’t, and were in the middle of the wild card race, they felt they had to go with the platoon situation in hopes of getting any productivity out of the position (hence why Pablo played so many games at 1B). Obviously short-sighted and a waste of resources but I really think they made the move in hopes of competing for the wild card and not just for appearances.
by Into the Void on Dec 12, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Pablo was playing first base because he tweaked his ankle or something.
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Ayep.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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That would make sense, if two days later Nick Johnson hadn’t been traded for a non-prospect.
I was promised lasagna.
supposedly the asking price from the Giants’ until the very end was Jonathan Sanchez.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
possible
as Garko is not really much of anything but depth.
However, the implication is that Scott Barnes was also worthless. But he would not only have to be worthless to the Giants (who should know him best) but everyone else as well… So maybe he is missing an elbow or something. On his throwing arm.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
C – John Buck, 1/$2M
1B – Garko, 2/$5M
2B – Kelly Johnson, 2/$6M
SS – Juan Uribe, 2/$7M
3B – Garrett Atkins, 1/$3M (clank)
LF – Jonny Gomes, 2/$8M (clank)
CF – Cory Sullivan, 1/$800K
RF – Ryan Church, 2/$4M
Better or worse run production than the 2010 Giants?
I don’t see nearly enough gamers there for it to be a viable major league team.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
1) Shit Sandwich CF
2) Turd Burgler 2B
3) Jack Shit LF
4) Johnny McNospeedordefense 1B
5) Giant Douche RF
6) Sven Norwegianheritagenight 3B
7) Dingle Berry SS
8) Yamid Haad C
More production than the 2010 Giants.
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by jcb9 on Dec 12, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
“Yamid” was the tipoff.
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Dude, you can’t TWSS your own post.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
My bad. I’m inexperienced with that gag.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 11:40 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, Sabes will do that to you.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 11:40 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I think I need a break from this team for a while.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 12, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Whoa....
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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Step away from the computer, Grant.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 13, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
Get in your bad Corolla and drive.
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by victor frankenstein on Dec 13, 2009 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
Does this mean his boss can take over??
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We’re here for you Grant. Step away from the computer. And the cocaine.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
The hookers can stay though.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Obviously. They perform a valuable service.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'MA BUY YOU A DRANK, OHH WHOA OHH, I'MA TAKE YOU HOME WIT' ME
I GOT MONEY IN DA BANK
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
shorty what chu think bout dat?
and i’ll be in the grey cadillac
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Don't forget the utility guy:
Pisa Crappe
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 12, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 12, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t find Amanda Hugenkiss.
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Phil McCracken
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
Voros McCracken
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Giant Douche! Giant Douche! Giant Douche!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Better.
Even more so if you put Cust in RF instead of Church too.
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I think Grant just set some sort of Internets record…
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 12, 2009 11:42 PM PST reply actions
It was too beautiful to do anything but watch. I had to write something at the bottom of the page. I hope I didn’t ruin it for anybody.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 12, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
This team is especially capable at breaking spirits and minds.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I like how the whole point of acquiring a player like Garko was to have him under team control for a few years…so he wasn’t “just a rental.”
Seriously
That was emphasized over and over at the deadline.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I believe the term “professional hitter” was also mentioned.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to who we’ll give up tomorrow for Dan Uggla.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Noonan for Uggla
I’d do that..though I admit I don’t know much about Noonan
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
This article has so much SabeanFail"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/27/SPVN18VRCR.DTL
A couple of my favorites:
“There’s definitely something to be said for experience,” Sabean said. “These games will only get harder. It can only help.”
Translation: Garko isn’t a rent-a-bat, and Sabean anticipates he’ll be a Giant beyond the immediate future.
“You don’t acquire a player like this to sit him,” Giants manager Bruce Bochy said. “He’s a veteran, proven hitter who’s going to provide some punch. You get a bat like this, it makes us a better lineup.”
hahahhahahahhahahahah
/sob
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
The essence of control
using it to give some dude a bus ticket after 100 AB. CONTROL DOWN THE STRETCH NERDS
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
People, you are missing the real story here:
Fred Lewis is not the problem. He’s got a mothafuckin contract, bitches! Well, yeah, he’s going to have circulatory problems from sitting on the bench so much, but, they tendered him.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 12, 2009 11:57 PM PST reply actions
He’s a ghost.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
I thought he wasn’t arb-eligible
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Oh crap, did I screw up…?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Regardless, I was expecting to hear about how Lewis called his agent from a Greyhound Bus Station in Anchorage, claiming Sabean was taking him to “get some extra BP”.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
Alaska Winter League
great for player development. Your 2010 Prudhoe Bay Roughnecks
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions
LOL, I work those guys.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
Even if he isn’t arb-eligible, they still have to tender him a contract, right?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I suppose, but they usually don’t announce if they tendered contracts to the league minimum guys.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Good point.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
That said
Fred has lasted longer as a Giant than I ever thought he would.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Giants’ M.O.:
1) Evaluate players incorrectly.
2) Attempt to change players to fit with said evaluation system.
3) Bench players indiscriminately.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
Ronny Paulino-C-Marlins Dec. 13 – 1:01 am et
Marlins agreed to terms with catcher Ronny Paulino on a one-year, $1.1 million contract.
Paulino hit .272/.340/.423 while playing mostly against lefties in the Marlins’ catcher platoon last season. The team is expected to carry on with the same alignment next year, which means that John Baker will continue to start against righties.
Hey, just think, we could have had Ronny Paulino at $1.1 million bridging the gap to Posey right now…
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4 Eva
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
2 years, 3rd year club option.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
At least he’s not Dayton Moore!
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Bar = low
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
Sabean one spot behind Jack Z. and Dayton Moore not being last. People are stupid.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
14 people have voted for Sabean as #1
5 people have voted for Ed Wade #1!
Of course, that’s compared to Epstein and Cashman, with 499 and 666 #1 votes.
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No way that Sabes is a better GM than Andy MacPhail.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
the longest tenured GM in baseball!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I still think that not trading Bengie last year, when we had Paulino, was one of Sabean’s worst moves ever. Arguably his worst. Everything else, you could see some logic behind it. Awful, twisted logic, but still. But this…I really have no idea what he was thinking. It would have saved money $7M, improved the farm system, and added a better catcher than Molina for 2009.
I was promised lasagna.
Because I often complain about that non-trade, but I guess you didn’t know that.
In any case, I don’t think either club ever confirmed it. What we know for sure is that the Mets and Marlins (and possibly Yankees) were interested in trading for Molina, and Sabean was reluctant to trade him because he wanted him in 2009: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/04/SPV611JSSA.DTL:
Sabean reiterated what he told The Chronicle last month, that he is not thinking of trading Randy Winn or Bengie Molina, who are signed through 2009, but if he can place a pending free agent such as Ray Durham, Vizquel or Aurilia on a contender, he might do it.
I can’t find the article that specifically mentioned Niese.
I was promised lasagna.
I didn’t know this, but that angers me more than the Garko decision
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 13, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
So I'm feeling depressed about the Giants, so I am going to go see this guy on Monday
I mean, it can’t hurt, right?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 13, 2009 12:19 AM PST reply actions
COME ON!
Have you tried Dr. Funke’s 100 Percent Natural Good Time Family Band Solution?
by troymccluresf on Dec 13, 2009 2:09 AM PST up reply actions
Needs moar TEAMOSIL
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Dec 13, 2009 5:38 AM PST up reply actions
The Garko/Velez Principle
is the same principle that keeps Schierholtz/Frandsen/Bowker, etc. on the bench or in the minors.
The baseball Satanist
Can anyone think of a celebrity equivalent to Sabean?
Sabean is someone who continues to get chances because of a move he made early in his career. He made one great trade (Williams for Kent) way back in 1997 and he was labeled as a genius. Since then he’s continued to make horrible signings/trades yet ownership does not fire him because he’s living off the Kent trade.
The best comparison I could think of was M Night Shyamalan. He burst on the scene with an instant classic, The 6th Sense, but since then his movies have progressively gotten worse and for the most part are pretty crappy. Despite this, he continues to make movies because of one stroke of genius early in his career
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Dec 13, 2009 12:39 AM PST reply actions
Btw I haven’t seen any Shyamalan movies haha. I’m basing my comment entirely off what I’ve heard from others
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Dec 13, 2009 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
Arnold Schwarzennegger.
Oh, I thought you said “movie”.
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by victor frankenstein on Dec 13, 2009 12:45 AM PST up reply actions
He’s also living off of what Bonds did for the team, even though Sabean inherited Bonds and considered him a hindrance.
To be fare, Sabean did pull off a couple of other good moves back in the day – the Burks trade, the Schmidt trade, maybe one or two others.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oh, the Nen trade.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
AND THE DRAFTING OF THE PITCHERS
HES LIKE RAIN MAN FINDING TEH PITCHERSES
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
He’s made a couple good trade and had just been a disaster for years. Therefore I feel the closest comparison is Eddie Murphy.
I made my comment without seeing yours, but clearly we are in agreement.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Eh...
I’m not really old enough to know the situation all that well, but it seems like back in the day Eddie Murphy was a comedy god. In the 80’s he was a major member of SNL, had two legendary comedy shows (Delirious and Raw), and was in a few comedy classics (Coming to America, Beverly Hills Cop, Trading Places.) Since then he’s tried to make family friendly movies and has been mostly awful. But for a significant amount of time Murphy was legitimately a genius, and then his career went down the pooper, whereas Sabean simply masqueraded as a genius due to one great move but has since been revealed to truly be a fool
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Dec 13, 2009 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
Sabean was really good once
The whole build-up from 1997 to the 2002 World Series was pretty awesome. There were a lot of legitimately great moves made to build that team. Very few of the players on that team had staying power after they left the Giants, but having the foresight to acquire guys like Schmidt, Santiago, Bell and Lofton is pretty incredible. And then things went downhill incredibly fast.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
This just shows
How much Bonds carried those teams on his back. The man was incredible.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 13, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
It’s true. Those teams wouldn’t have been very good if Kent was the only top hitter.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Mostly agreed
But I have to give the man a lot of credit for Burks and Schmidt. Both great trades.
Of course, he was also sowing the seeds of our current problems by completely neglecting the draft and the minor leagues back then.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
and I'm still irrationally angry at one of his early trades
Steve Reed (1.48 ERA with us that season) and Jacob Cruz (our top hitting prospect at the time) for Jose Mesa, Alvin Morman, and Shawon Dunston.
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I see what you did there
But Dunston had already been a Giant in 1995. And we got him again in 2001, so he would have links to the organization regardless.
Dunston and Terry Mulholland are the only guys I can think of who’ve had THREE separate stints as Giants.
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Not to go all Bill James here but take a look at the ages of most of the players he went out and got between ’96 and ’01. Look at the ages of the the players he sought out after.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Old and older?
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Kent, Snow, and Brain Johnson was acquired for their age 29 year. Estella was 25. Maine 30. Darryl Hamilton was 32. Burks ( the old player of that group) was in his age 33 season. All these guys had large amounts of playing time on their Giants squads. I was just a winter or two ago the front office was trying to tell us the 32 was young. When was the last time Sabean went after a postion player under 30 and just let him play? David Bell in 2001 and AJ 2004?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
How big is the list of quality free agents younger than 30? Unless a guy develops quickly it seems like players are close to 30 by the time the team loses control over them. And if they are any good, they usually sign a multi-year deal putting them past age 30.
No one here gets out alive.
A lot of those guys were not free agents and the main point here is these players were under 30 and brought in to play a large amount of time and committed to that course of action and followed through.
Since 2002 who else under 30 was brought in from the outside to play large amounts of time? Off the top of my head I come up with AJ, Joe Castle, Edgar Alfanso, Jose Cruz & Uribe. Did I miss anyone? ( 3 of those 5 were off the team before 2005 and only one was on the team for more than 1 season) Only 5 position players under 30 brought in to play that a large amount of time over seven seasons, that is roughly 84 roster spots for position players for a team that has gone ( is going?) through a complete rebuild. How can 5 out of 84 be explained other than the teams purposefully avoided those types of players.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
I agree with you. My point is that there just aren’t many of those under 30 types around to get through free agency or trade. If a team is trying to rebuild it should probably start learning how to be an expert in minor league talent. My guess is the Giants FO wanted to stay competetive enough to fill seats while trying to do a half-assed rebuild. But apparently wasting money on veteran players on the backside of their career has its downside. When you finally are competetive, you can’t afford to pay any real outside talent to compliment your home grown talent.
No one here gets out alive.
subtracting bonds
Giants were just average. So Sabean managed to create roughly a .500 leaving a farm system in 2004 that was terrible.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
I’m not sure if your list of good EM movies was supposed to be inclusive. If it was, it should have included “48 Hours”.
And yeah, he was on top of the world for a while and could do no wrong… until this
/pukes
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I’m really glad to see that video comes with high quality audio. I wouldn’t want to listen to Party All the Time in inferior fidelity.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Eddie Murphy’s music career: the Hollywood equivalent of Brian Sabean drafting hitters.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Wow I’ve never heard that haha. But is that really much worse than most 80’s music?
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Dec 13, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
It is.
The only positive thing you can say about the song is that the Rick James part is kinda cool. 80s music was freakin’ great. Of the decades during my life, I’d rank them as follows:
1. 60s
2. 80s
3. 70s
4. 90s
5. 00s
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I wouldn't go that far
But R.E.M., The Replacements, Blondie, New Order, Husker Du, Minutemen, etc. etc.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Sonic Youth, too, come to think of it.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Oh, shit, and The Smiths, The Cure, and Siouxsie & the Banshees.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Joy Division, Jane’s Addiction, G’n’r.
Blondie’s actually 70’s though.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
Well, they were making music in the 80s too
But their best stuff was 70s, yes, now that you mention it. Parallel Lines came out in 78.
Joy Division was done by May 1980.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Just saw New Order and noticed you forgot the roots.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
I love Joy Division!
I just didn’t include them as a great 80s band.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Echo & The Bunnymen, Church, The Cult, Patty Smith, Rockey from the Crypt, Fuckin’ 80’s blows doors.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
*Rocket
( one of my favorite band names of all time )
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Some more
Kate Bush, X, Bruce Springsteen, Spinal Tap (heh), Sinead O’Connor, Pixies, Cowboy Junkies, Throwing Muses. The Clash put out a couple of uneven but occasionally great albums in the 80s, too.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The Boss’ Nebraska album front to back is in my top 10. Crazy.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Paul Simon put out some of his best albums in the 80s
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Good call.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Sadly
That is what people mean when they say “80’s music.” I do enjoy the occasion when I get to run through (part of) this list when a budding music snob says they don’t like music from the 80s.
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
90’s have Jawbreaker & Built to Spill so they may win by defualt.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Goddamnit. I was enjoying the Passion Pit album so much, but now I have to switch over to Jawbreaker.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Passion Pit gives me nose bleeds
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Good nose bleeds or bad nose bleeds? Or did you find your dad’s cocaine stash?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
Official McPokeMaster
Registered Velezbian and supporter of Fredemption
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Im joking.
and since when are we not allowed to cuss?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Really? Oh, well I dont mind a warning. Chicks dig em.
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yah me too
I called someone a “fucking idiot”. Not a good move.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
he seems to be pretty clearly joking.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m banning him anyway, just to be safe.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Can I have a few last words?
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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Official McPokeMaster
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
Too late
You’ve already been banned. I also banned everyone beginning with a G to cover all the bases.
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I just banned Natto
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
thank god you didn't go with GuySF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
oh god, it's a xeifrank sockpuppet!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
THIS BEING BANNED STUFF IS GREAT!!!!!
I FEEL SO FREE AND INDEPENDENT!!!!
I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN BANNED YEARS AGO!!!!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
Official McPokeMaster
Registered Velezbian and supporter of Fredemption
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
IM ALREADY TRIFADED
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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Official McPokeMaster
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Adorable.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Sunny day
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
most of the good metal
is late 70s early 80s
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Run for the hiiiillllllls.
Run for your liiiives!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
you might think you are mocking me
but you are not.
Like A Rainbow!
In the Dark!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
WE will know for the first time if we are evil or devine
We are the last in line.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Ronnie James baby!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 14, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
He's the man on the silver mountain.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Dec 14, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
Does this town know how to rock?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
Eddie Murphy? Brilliant early on, shlocky dreck ever since.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Schlocky Dreck
your 2010 1B?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 8:03 AM PST up reply actions
Heck
Is “Shrek” dreck?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I’m not a big Shrek fan. Never got why it was such a big deal.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
BUT THEY MADE POP CULTURE REFERENCES!! THEY’RE HIP!!!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Shrek 1 & 2 are good, but they don’t really age well. I hate the character designs in them too.
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I always thought they were over-rated
But I did enjoy Shrek 1 and 2.
Shrek 3, on the other hand..
And now they’re doing another one?
The baseball Satanist
Yes
MAKE IT STOP
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I heard that they were making another Pirates of the Caribbean, too. Is that true?
Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG
There are whispers of ideas of it being about Jack’s adventures. At least no Orlando Bloom?
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With Shrek, it would be the second bad one. But this would be the 3RD BAD MOVIE IN A ROW!!!! How do they continue to make money?
Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG
Kids like fart jokes.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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LIVE ACTION COWBOY BEPOP!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 13, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
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Ted Theodore Logan
/Air guitar riff
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
I would like to think that Depp knows how much the last two sucked, but I might be wrong.
I was promised lasagna.
The next one is in production, it is called “On Stranger Tides” and is based (LOOSELY) on the novel of the same name. It will have Blackbeard in it and Captain Jack.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
If only it could have this one
RIP :(
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Chevy Chase
One season on Saturday Night Live where he was most recognizable because he never developed any characters, just got to play himself on Weekend Update, admittedly strong out of the gate on the movie career, but by Fletch 2 was over.
by VidaWantsYourCar on Dec 13, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
He is pretty funny in that show. The wife and I really enjoy it
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Community is an awesome show
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Last weeks was my favorite to date.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Me too
Anthony Michael Hall was hilarious. Plus, Christmas Troy!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yes!
“Do you always dress like your going to go work out?”
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
This too. That line had me rolling!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
You’re gonna want to use the whole word.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
“Did I just get Punk’d?”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
“Do not use the condoms. I repeat do not use the condoms”
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
“Football is in your blood.”
“That’s racist.”
“In your soul?”
“That’s racist.”
“It’s in your eyes.”
“That’s gay.”
“That’s homophobic.”
“That’s black.”
“That’s racist.”
“Damn.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I can definitely imagine Sabean drunk and coked out, passed out in his car.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Adam Laroche career averages per 162 games played: 274 BA, 26 HR, 834 OPS
Ryan Garko career averages per 162 games played: 279 BA, 20 HR, 792 OPS
Laroche’s superior production is totally worth the extra $20 million…
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Dec 13, 2009 12:43 AM PST reply actions
MARCELLO WUZ RIGHT
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Dec 13, 2009 12:47 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
I find fault with the trade more than anything. Garko was never really anything more than a clanky platoon 1B.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I don't mind non-tendering him
Except inasmuch as it confirms they threw away Barnes for a player even they don’t think much of.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Also
So far this off-season, the team’s big news include a non-tender, a Rule 5 selection, and a minor league contract for a guy who used to be baseball’s worst hitter and is now trying to be a middle reliever. I’m glad Sabean hasn’t signed a ridiculous contract or made a dumbass trade yet, but the lack of any movement is making me a little crazy.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah when the best player you've acquired probably won't stay on the roster all year
It’s been a boring offseason. But with Sabean involved that’s not necesarily bad.
Sabean DID say he was going to take his time this off season and not rush into signings like he’s done in the past. You can’t really knock it, because all the free agents the Giants’ could possibly use are still out there, but time is going to tell if he’s done the right thing here. GM’s often get fired with one year remaining on their deal, so there’s a good chance if he messes up this offseason it will be his last one.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
Attention Ginats Marketing
Your 2010 San Francisco Giants: Standing Pat
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:58 AM PST up reply actions
Deciding which bathroom to use
Your 2010 Giants
by Giant Voodoo on Dec 13, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
Ryan Garko is exactly the type of non-tender the Giants should sign
oh, wait.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 13, 2009 1:05 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Astonishing...and yet so predictable.
Every time I think I can’t possibly despise him more than I do, I find that I am wrong.
I still want Brian Sabean fired.
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
Isn't it just possible...
That Barnes isn’t a good prospect and we can do better than Garko on the free agent market?
Barnes was a top 10 prospect in BA last year
And he was having a very strong season for San Jose – sub-3.00 ERA and more than a strike out an inning. He wasn’t Steven Strasburg or anything, but he was a nice prospect, the best in our system after the big names of Bumgarner and Alderson.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
also
how about a throw-in from Cleveland? Is there some Ginats FO policy that mandates one player for one player in trades?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 7:59 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm sure Cleveland would've been okay to throw in Pavano
Maybe with Pavano we don’t suffer through the Martinez-Sadowski experiment and win some more games. Also LaRoche probably could’ve been acquired with Sanchez for a couple more lower tier prospects.
Unless its Nick Johnson or De Rosa, keeping Garko was the best option, given the $ that comes with La Roche.
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
Ick, DeRosa
probably a multi-year contract for a 35 year old coming off a season where his production fell off a cliff? No thanks.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
+1
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
+2
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Possibly
But here’s the thing:
Barnes still had/has a decent amount trade value
and
Garko would’ve been a fine backup/insurance policy for whomever Sabean decides to sign to play first. And he wouldn’t cost as much as other backups on the free agent market.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
LOL sfgate: not just for the comment, but for the recommendations
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
WE WUDINT BE SIGNING THEM FOR THEYRE DEFENSE
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
RIBEYES DUDE
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions
wait… seriously? This isn’t a joke post? I don’t have to go to MLBTR to confirm this, do I – because it seems like such a crazy ridiculous notion to actually have happened that mmy mind is like completely baffled and broken.
Seriously? We traded a top prospect so Garko could get into a slump for 1 month, then sit on the bench for 2? Seriously?
Seriously?
Grrrrrr…..
No Trade Value?
I just don’t get why we couldn’t sign Garko and eventually trade him. We could have at least received a Scott Barnesish player in return.
by GiantFaninDodgerLand on Dec 13, 2009 4:40 AM PST reply actions
Couldn’t we have just swapped Garko for Kelly Johnson last week if we were really that unhappy with Garko and the Braves weren’t gonna tender Johnson a contract anyway?
Thing A
LOL F.Sanchez!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 7:27 AM PST up reply actions
1 young starter + 1 top prospect = AGon?
The Red Sox and Padres have discussed an Adrian Gonzalez trade, but the two sides have yet to make any progress.
Gonzalez has let San Diego know Boston is his preferred choice, but former Red Sox GM and current Padres GM Jed Hoyer (with former Boston scouting director Jason McLeod in tow) is requesting Clay Buchholz along with top prospect Casey Kelly or Ryan Westmoreland. It’s not an unreasonable price tag, but it’s one Boston won’t pay — yet. Keep an eye on this situation.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
How would you now give up Buchholz and Kelly or Westmoreland for Adrian Gonzalez? That is an awesome trade.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I know, right? And with their depth and budget, it would be easier for Boston to give up that talent than say for the Giants to give up Durty and Posey. Seems very reasonable to me.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
The Sawx lack quality starting pitching.
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 13, 2009 8:18 AM PST up reply actions
But they have depth in the minors all over the place, including the mound. On top of that, it seems like very few people in Boston see Buchholz as a long-term answer.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I might be more inclined to give up Westmoreland than Kelly though. I don’t know how those two guys stack up, potential-wise, but It would be hard to give up two top starters for AGon.
BTW word is, Boston might deal Buchholz straight up, but are balking at having to add a prospect or two.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Buchholz for Gonzalez? HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHA! That’s rich. And I’m with you on Kelly, but they still have Bowden and a lot of other intriguing arms. Plus, they need a big, middle-of-the-order bat.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Epstein vs. Hoyer – should be fun to watch those two try to out-maneuver each other!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I now right, it pisses me off when I read “thats more than they want to give up.” WTF, you want to trade for a cheap, 2nd or 3rd best hitting 1st basemen in the league and you want to only give up one pitcher who only accomplishment is pitching a no hitter?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 13, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I can’t figure out why Bucholtz is so highly valued throughout the league. He’s never looked that great to me.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 13, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Bosox. AL. ECT.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
He got electroconvulsive therapy!?
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Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 13, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
and
he gets mentioned in every gammons column, so… he must be good.
NO HITTER!!!!!!!!
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by say hey nation on Dec 13, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously?
Go look up his numbers, other than ERA. Check out his minor league level summaries. He’s struggled in his major league stints, but he’s trying to break in in the AL East pitching in a terrible park for pitchers.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
His road numbers for the past few years are worse than his home numbers. He’s also 25 and hasn’t shown any consistency in the majors. For this and a top prospect, the Padres are willing to give up Gonzalez? That amazes me.
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 13, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
Gonzalez is a great 1B who is going to get very expensive in 2012.
His road numbers for the past few years are worse than his home numbers.
That doesn’t mean anything, but his numbers are just about the same home vs away anyways. The main difference being a .270 vs .340 BABIP and a couple of HR’s.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
If the Giants put a decent offer out there (it’s been said they’d go to two years for him) to Nick Johnson, you know +/- .5 M/yr from whatever other offers he’s getting, wouldn’t you assume he’d accept, being from Sacto and all. Wouldn’t he want to be as close to home as possible? Or is he not a Giants fan? I’m not saying hometown discount or anything, but when you’re talking 6-7 M/yr what’s .5 M for going home 82 additional nights a year and not having to rent/buy a condo in some shitwhole part of the country?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 8:30 AM PST reply actions
*shithole, whatevs, actually the whole country outside of CA is a shithole.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
garko
I think that they were just trying to win the wildcard by adding Garko.
If they had kept Garko and then not added anyone, that would be a bad move too. And why would you keep him, if you were going to add someone else that plays the same position?
I’d rather them try someone else. At least maybe this is an acknowledgement that they need someone with better pitch selections skills and can take more walks.
Maybe getting rid of Garko gives them more flexibility in that it allows them to potentially play Sandoval at first or third. If they had Garko, Sandoval would either play third or keep Garko on the bench.
I have been wondering if adding Jack Cust would be that bad. He walks a lot and hits homeruns.
This argument pisses me off so much. Especially since at the time, they talked up the fact that he was under team control for a few more years as a plus. IF YOU ONLY WANT HIM FOR TWO MONTHS, THEN PAY A TWO MONTHS OF GARKO PRICE, NOT A TOP 10 PROSPECT.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Cust belongs in the AL. I seriously think he’s the worst fielder of our generation.
I was promised lasagna.
And his baserunning can be molina-esque
If anyone can find the video of him falling twice during the rundown against the yankees I would be a very happy man
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by lincecuminyourface on Dec 13, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
The problem is even after they acquired him they didn’t play him that much. They actually chose to play a broken down Renteria instead of Garko against a LHP on more than one occasion. It’s not the individual moves that are the issue it’s the seeming disconnect between them.
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by GiantFan on Dec 13, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"If they had kept Garko and then not added anyone, that would be a bad move too."
Depends on who they add and at what price. Garko can be a productive first baseman at a cheap cost.
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My sources inside the Giants came through and I got the real story on the Garko non-tender. Turns out they wanted to keep him, but didn’t think there’d be room on the 40-man for Bocock if they did.
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by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
wait
was this from all your friends in the major leagues? Or your decades of experience as counsel to the Kenosha Krazykats?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
I HAVE CONNECTIONS INSIDE BASEBALL AND THEREFORE KNOW MORE THAN ALL OF YOU LITTLE PEOPLE COMBINED.
Merry Christmas, McCoven. YOU DRINK YOUR DAMN EGGNOG
My connections could beat up your connections
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An understatement, to say the least
DL: The perception of your organization is that it isn’t very statistically savvy. Is that accurate?
BB: I would probably argue that a little bit, because of all the information we get. We have a tremendous IT department that gives me all the information I need, all the stats I know, but with that being said, I don’t rely strictly on statistics or managing by the book. I still believe you use your instincts, go by your gut, and do what you think is the best thing to win that ballgame.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9847
WHO NEEDS INFORMATION WHEN YOU’VE GOT A SMART GUT
Osiris, Lord of the Dead, and... relief pitcher for the San Francisco Giants?
The stats, with the numbers, the commas, the columns...
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
He is too busy playing flip cup right now.
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by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
flip- flip- flipadelphia
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If Garko would take an offer that was reasonable, I’m sure they would have signed him.
I also think that Garko was shown to be not very good in the clutch. How could anyone know that before trading for him? If they had kept him around and he wasn’t very good in the playoffs and pennant race again, that would have been the really bad move.
I really think the Giants are close to winning the World Series in the next three years. They have a great opportunity with Lincecum, Cain, and maybe Sanchez, and Bumgarner with Zito maybe making a succesful playoff start or two.
You complainers are still thinking of the 2008, 2007, 2006, and 2005 Giants. The Giants need like two good hitters and that’s it.
WORLD SERIES!!!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
You complainers are still thinking of the 2008, 2007, 2006, and 2005 Giants. The Giants need like two good hitters and that’s it.
If its was ’06-08 I would be a bit mellower about things. There would still be plenty of time to get the worse kinks out of the system. Now we are 1-2 years away from some major franchise shifting choices (Cain & Tim) and the management is doing their damnest to add kinks. They keep going along the track they have since the All Starr game and we will lose both pitchers and not have bucket of warm spit to show for it.
What teh Gaitns need isa manager and a GM that does not think peeing on electric fance is fun.
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by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Career clutch splits
2 Outs, RISP: .276 / .397 / .481
Late & Close: .259 / .323 / .410
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Also, LOL
You complainers are still thinking of the 2008, 2007, 2006, and 2005 Giants. The Giants need like two good hitters and that’s it.
Runs scored by year:
2009: 659
2008: 640
2007: 683
2006: 746
2005: 649
Uh, yeah.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
The Giants need like five good hitters and that’s it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Five Pedro Feliz's
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 13, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Barry, Moises, and Durham all had awesome years.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
He only played 98 games that year
But he was still worth 2.0 WAR, which is better than any Giants outfielder this year. 16.8 Batting, -4.3 Fielding.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Man, you’re right. I was unhappy with this move because I thought it was based on an overreaction to a small sample size, but if you’re right and they did it because of Garko’s 20 or so AB with RISP as a Giant, then it makes perfect sense.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Dec 13, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The Lewis Rib Eyes Trap strikes again eh?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
more
I also think the Dodgers are going to be significantly worse next year. The Giants don’t have to remake the whole team to make the playoffs.
Yes a 2005 Padres (82-80) NL West flag is theoretically possible. Of course the Bums have to have a greater melt down with their ownership. The Rockies have to be cold for most of the season and the Dbacks need to stay injured and had under budgeted that last one seems very possible at least).
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
lol
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Sabean said he didn't want a rent-a-player
I was pretty sure that he said that. Never mind that Sanchez was only under control for 2010 subject to an over-priced option that was tracking to vest. I guess we lucked out he got hurt, and I really thought that when he hurt it the last time we were surely not brining him back. But we did. Still, we essentially signed him to a FA contract that may even top what Lopez and Hudson get – yikes. And now Garko is totally gone so those trades were disasters – no help down the stretch and nothing for the future.
I would have much rather seen them stick with the Garko-Ishikawa platoon at first and also go cheap at second, then spend that money on Holliday or Bay. But at least their approach will probably lead to just a couple of 2 or 3 year deals that won’t work out instead of a really long one.
So...
we traded two of our top ten prospects for 1) a guy that has been dismissed after a little over 100 PA’s and 2) a guy who was injured most of the year and that we could have signed as a free agent at the end of the year anyway. In other words, we essentially gave Neal and Alderson away.
Neal?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
huh? Neal was considered a top ten prospect before he was traded wasn’t he?
by Into the Void on Dec 13, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Neal hasn’t been traded.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 13, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
We didn’t trade Neal, thank god.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I'm a dummy
I got Barnes and Neal confused. Too much whiskey in my cereal.
by Into the Void on Dec 13, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
They do look similar.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Whiskey and Milk do look similar.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
dear jporny
please use your time machine and post this next December, ensuring that such will still be true then.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
What's depressing
Is that the same damn pattern keeps repeating itself. Eugenio Velez has 100 good AB’s? He’s an all star! Fred Lewis sucks – cut him!
Ryan Garko is not a great player, but as the RH half of a platoon, he’s a very useful player. A team can afford to pay $2.5M to him, even if doesn’t kiss Bochy’s ass.
This team has no concept of how to conduct player evaluation. The fact that they’re more interested in hustle/grit/BS cliche instead of advancing is just depressing.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/sabean-strikes-back-non-tenders-ryan-garko
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Seriously, can anyone defend our brilliant GM?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Why would we need to?
/ tries to signs Sabs up for a Dick Cheney hunting party.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Well, the arguments in this topic appear to be that apparently they didn’t realize that guys who were ticketed to be free agents this offseason were, in fact, going to end up being free agents.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
There are free agents we think will be free agents and end up not being free agents. There are free agents that we think will be free agents and end up being free agents. There are non free agents that we think end up as free agents. And there are non free agents that we think are non free agents….
Ah F*&^ work let’s drink.
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Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
no
But, I’d like to see Grant write a satire piece on this, though.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 13, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
ftfy
But, I’d like to see Grant write asatirepieceon this, though.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
"I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed."
by natteringnabob on Dec 13, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t have a problem with the Garko moves in a vacuum. In the thick of a pennant race, Sabean traded a meh prospect to fill a position of need. That’s fine, it’s what he ought to be doing. At the end of the season, with Garko having flopped and now in line for a significant pay bump, Sabean cut him loose. Also fine. I’d rather have the GM accept that a move didn’t work out and then cut his losses, rather than try to keep justifying it.
But Sabean is liable to end up overpaying on both ends of the deal. Better players (LaRoche and Johnson) were traded at the same time for prospects that weren’t any better than Barnes, probably worse. And now Sabean will probably end up paying $8-10 million a year for a 10-15 run upgrade over the Garkokawa platoon, which is horrible for a team on a tight budget.
In sum, the Garko moves aren’t terrible, but they’re not the best moves that could have been made. And in the long run, that’s going to cause the team to drift behind the pack again.
Exactly. After a short period of looking like a solid GM again for awhile (last offseason), he’s now becoming extremely Dayton Moore-esque, making moves that are kind of okay/defensible on their own, but taken together, show a whole lot of WTF R U DOIN???
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
loldude
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
by esseffgeez on Dec 13, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Theese always make me smile.
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Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I’m sorry, is that Esperanto?
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From fangraphs
This move comes down to two things. Either Sabean and company have absolutely no plan to speak of, or this was their plan all along; shipping off their ninth best prospect – a left-handed starting pitcher with an impressive performance in a hitter friendly league – for what amounts to a month of plate appearances. I’m not sure which should terrify Giants fans more, but I’m leaning towards the latter. At least the promise of no plan is exciting and leads to unpredictably and spontaneous bouts of anger. That beats the heck out of a constant dull roar of anger because your favorite team’s front office considers long-term potential for extremely short-term gains an equal trade.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
That's well stated
Or, another possible explanation….. Sabean’s astrologist told him not to offer Garko a contract?
Thankfully I gave up trying to understand Sabean long ago or this one would be giving me another headache right now.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 13, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Well put extremely negative words. Brian’s making Ed Wade and Dayton Moore look brilliant.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
The REAL story:
Sabean overheard Garko saying he thought Frandsen was actually a really swell guy and deserved more playing time.
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Dec 13, 2009 11:56 AM PST reply actions
So is the “34” on the McC logo going to be replaced with a “23”?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions
OT
I am now 100% rooting for the Colts and Saints. I want 18-0 vs 18-0
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2 things would be accomplished
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Thanks to roger
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Aww, sad champagne…
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
That whole champagne when the last undefeated team losses really pisses me off.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 13, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Aaron Rodgers owners of the world, weep.
Jamal Charles owners of the world, do a happy little dance!
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Peyton needs to start throwing TDs to Reggie Wayne again. Those were cool.
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Damn the Mariners could get Bay?
Watch out for them next year.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 13, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions
Yes. M’s==competent GM.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
nah, a competent GM would make sure that a Bay signing would cripple their franchise during the length of the contract
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 14, 2009 6:34 AM PST up reply actions
Giants front runner for Damon?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 13, 2009 2:57 PM PST reply actions
If there’s one thing that the Podsednik deal has done to me, it’s that I would welcome Johnny Damon now. Because he’s not Scott Podsednik. Welcome, Johnny.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
The Champ Summers of 2010 Giants! Except the Champ had more power and OBP skills.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.