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What about Coco Crisp?

 

He turned 30 a month ago, and he had an uncharacteristically poor season in his limited at-bats last year, but he is a career .277 hitter who is capable of stealing 25+ bases and hitting 30 doubles a year. Plus, since his BABIP last year were at career lows, it should make him a bargain well within the means of the Giants. He could be our leadoff hitter and starting center fielder, pushing Aaron Rowand to right and moving John Bowker to left. That would make our outfield a lot better, considering that he is the second best fielding CF in the league in terms of UZR according to statisticianmagician.com, and even Terry Francona said Coco was ‘the greatest center fielder I’ve ever seen'. That has to be a good thing. A 1 year deal along the lines of $3 mil each year would do this offense good. If Coco ever joins this lineup, and assuming Nick Johnson also signs, our lineup would look something like this:

Coco Crisp-CF

Edgar Renteria-SS (Sabean said Rent would be a lock to bat 2nd)(also,ugh)

Freddy Sanchez-2B

Pablo Sandoval-3B

 

John Bowker- LF

Aaron Rowand- RF

Nick Johnson - 1B

Buster Posey- C

Pitcher's slot/ Fred Lewis- DH (for AL away games)

(Post Edit: Many of the comments state that they don't want Coco, but I'd really like an explanation as to why he's such a bad choice. Plus, if anything, he's better than Scott Posednik.)

Poll
To Coco or not to Coco?
Yes, please! For Christmas, Sabean!
45 votes
no.
87 votes

132 votes | Poll has closed

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Over Pods? Yes.

These pretzels are making me thirsty

by NuschlerFace on Dec 11, 2009 8:23 PM PST reply actions  

Coco Crisp

OK in milk. Terrible dry. Do not want.

Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo.

by Lyle on Dec 12, 2009 7:17 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah we need to sign

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!

by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Kinda looks like Timmy.

... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time

by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

In general? No.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Dec 11, 2009 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

I’ll give him credit for having a cool name.

by deuce deuce on Dec 11, 2009 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

No.

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Dec 11, 2009 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

Now that I’ve read the post, I noticed you have Johnson batting 6th. This confuses me. And when did Sabean say Rent’s a lock to bat 2nd?

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Dec 11, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

yahoo team reports

"Lisa, Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson
"Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa?" - Bart Simpson
"Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer." - Will Rogers.

by Ramah71 on Dec 11, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Never trust yahoo. Jeff Passan is a dumbass. Everything I’ve seen hints at Sanchez batting 2nd. And I don’t like him because he’s a bad hitter. While he is an excellent CF, it’s not worth it to add him to play CF and push Rowand to a corner OF position. That would diminish what little value Rowand already has. It’s not worth it to add a crappy-hitting good fielder to force an also crappy-hitting but mediocre fielder to a more valuable offensive position. I’d definitely prefer Crisp playing center over Rowand, but we’re stuck with Rowand. I’d rather improve the lineup than the OF defense.

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Dec 11, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

“Manager Bruce Bochy said he’s thinking about a lineup that begins LF Eugenio Velez, SS Edgar Renteria, Sanchez and 3B Pablo Sandoval. “It’s not etched in stone that he’s our No. 2 hitter. It’s nice to have that flexibility with him. I think he’d be a pretty good 3 hitter,” Sabean said." – from yahoo

"Lisa, Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson
"Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa?" - Bart Simpson
"Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer." - Will Rogers.

by Ramah71 on Dec 11, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

tbh

i trust espn more than yahoo

by sfoakbay on Dec 12, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe he did say that. But he had to been referring to as the Giants stand right now.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I read this last week, at some point.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

he also called Sanchez “Sanchy”, in that quote, which made me want to punch him in the face.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Dec 12, 2009 6:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Calm down, Rxy

Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo.

by Lyle on Dec 12, 2009 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Cokie!

Crispy?

The possibilities are mind-numbing.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!

by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

he’s got Johnson batting 7th. If we sign Johnson and Renteria starts the year hitting higher in the order than him I’ll throw a fit.

Thing A

by sam23 on Dec 12, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Same.

"Lisa, Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson
"Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa?" - Bart Simpson
"Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer." - Will Rogers.

by Ramah71 on Dec 13, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

why not, though?

"Lisa, Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson
"Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa?" - Bart Simpson
"Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer." - Will Rogers.

by Ramah71 on Dec 11, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

unless

 rowand for bradley… then yes. i know…. never happen

by giantdonkey on Dec 11, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

What the matter with Coco?

He’s a bum!

Signed,
AT&T Bleacher Bums

by Ed Jew on Dec 11, 2009 9:24 PM PST reply actions  

Hey Ed, you need to change the link in your profile. You’re no longer District 4 supervisor since….the troubles.

Disfrute Los Gigantes every day at www.leftymalo.com

by leftymalo on Dec 11, 2009 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol

by Tim LinCyYoung on Dec 11, 2009 9:53 PM PST reply actions  

Nah

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Dec 11, 2009 10:11 PM PST reply actions  

If Natto sez Nah

then maybe they should kick the tire etc

Crisp is a great defender however your terms are way too lenient Offer a short term inexpensive deal.

by wilriv21 on Dec 11, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s cute.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Dec 11, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

17

I saw there were 17 comments and thought someone was helping me count!

by Merope on Dec 11, 2009 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

Anything to lend a hand!

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 12, 2009 12:54 AM PST up reply actions  

As soon as I saw the title, I wondered what the count was up to.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 12, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Shouldn't this be Merope's icon?

Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo.

by Lyle on Dec 12, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

18… 18 craptacular rosterbation threads! A-A-A-A!

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!

by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I know it's the monocle

but it looks like the Count caught a roundhouse right.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Dec 12, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Domestic dispute.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

no, he’s just classy

Thing A

by sam23 on Dec 12, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking about that earlier today. Didn’t get too far with the thought though.

by Merope on Dec 12, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it might be an improvement on an overexposed black cat photo….

Officially disinterested in any high school outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Proud adoptive parent of Sergio Romo.

by Lyle on Dec 14, 2009 2:37 AM PST up reply actions  

No thanks, he’s really a 4th OF now and we’ve got plenty of those. I don’t see him being an improvement over what we’ve got.

Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!

by GiantFan on Dec 12, 2009 2:26 AM PST reply actions  

Not a horrible idea

The problem is that his entire value is tied up in his defense, which has fluctuated over the years (UZR) between slightly above average (0-5 runs) to excellent (15-25 runs). Which one would we get?

Also, don’t know the nature of his injury last year, but he only played 41 games.

That said, if that’s what it takes for us to not sign Pods, hell yes.

Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?

by tedfordfan on Dec 12, 2009 5:04 AM PST reply actions  

Not only his defense,

but also his above-average speed, which allows him to steal 25 bags a year and leg out 30 doubles and 5 triples annually. Couple that with solid switch-hitting, the fact that he’s played in the AL for the length of his career (think Brad Penny transformation), and his defensive excellence & versatility (he switched to left field when Grady Sizemore emerged), and you can see why I defend Coco’s case so fiercely.

"Lisa, Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson
"Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa?" - Bart Simpson
"Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer." - Will Rogers.

by Ramah71 on Dec 12, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah cuz AL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NL

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 12, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

But the defense, especially as an outfielder, is likely to decline significantly now that he’s in his thirties. Pass.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Dec 12, 2009 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Needs tons more PODS!!!!

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 12, 2009 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

Nothing against Coco -he’s a good player – but we could do better.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Dec 12, 2009 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

and worse. /looks at Podsednik

Thing A

by sam23 on Dec 12, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If Errant Throwin’ was already gone and the contract a 1-2 years in length?

 I would be fine with that. In all other case he would be about as useful as a case of crabs right now.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 12, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

Dungeness?

I could eat a case of Dungeness…

by tyrannoman on Dec 12, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

As for me, I wouldn’t be fine with it even then.

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 12, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

 Not the perferred solution, IMHO, but say $6-7MM between him and Torress for CF in 2010 . Yah, I could get happy with it.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 12, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Expectations of Schierholtz or Lewis doing well in CF sate me.

Lethargy
It has me

by dregarx on Dec 13, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I think lewis is very under rated in Big Head’s world but I can not imagine him doing well in CF in the NL West.

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Dec 13, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Post Edit

A 3yr/$9M deal is too long/too expensive. Possibly a 1+ for a couple million. Would love his defense and speed.

by wilriv21 on Dec 12, 2009 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

Maybe 1 year @ $2mil with a vesting option for $3mil based on plate appearances…

by tyrannoman on Dec 12, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Edited!

"Lisa, Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson
"Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa?" - Bart Simpson
"Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer." - Will Rogers.

by Ramah71 on Dec 13, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

An OF of PODS, Covelli, Geno, and Torres.
Major VROOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!

Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.

by cain1rstballothof on Dec 12, 2009 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

they get to play 2 innings each

by wilriv21 on Dec 12, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Major VROOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!

and

Colonel KlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanK!!!!!!!!!!

by Merope on Dec 12, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you cuckoo for Coco Crisp?

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2009 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Covelli Crisp is his real name

"Lisa, Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson
"Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa?" - Bart Simpson
"Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer." - Will Rogers.

by Ramah71 on Dec 12, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Cuckoo for Covelli Crisp doesn’t really roll off the tongue though.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmm

You might want to change your password, Ramah71. I think Brian Sabean hacked your account and started posting under your name.

by Sigualicious on Dec 12, 2009 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

I’m not sure Brian Sabean knows where the on button on his computer is…

"Lisa, Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins, and eskimos." - Homer Simpson
"Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa?" - Bart Simpson
"Make crime pay. Become a Lawyer." - Will Rogers.

by Ramah71 on Dec 12, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

"To start, press any key"

“Where’s the any key?”

"meh"

by SFGuy on Dec 12, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

OT, but is anyone watching All Time Games on MLBN? This San Diego v Colorado game was one of the most exciting I’ve ever seen.

by tyrannoman on Dec 12, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

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