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OT: A Cry for Help

So, me and Mrs. Hairball are what some of you might call "Foodies", or food snobs, or something similar. We own a lot of cookbooks, spend far less frugally on food than other things in our life, eat seasonally and organic, blah blah blah, and WE COOK A LOT!

So it pains me to say the following:

I just found out that I'm allergic to garlic.

Star-divide

Like, what the fuck man? Garlic? You've got to be kidding me.

But I now have the little card to go in my wallet saying that I am "highly reactive" to garlic. I have eaten it nearly every day of my adult life. Obviously, I don't go into shock or anything. This is what you call a "delayed onset" type of reaction. But after years of thinking I was reacting to something else (gluten, dairy?) it turned out to be garlic that was screwing up my digestion and generally making me miserable.

So, my cry for help- anyone else here with this affliction? Any good substitutes that anyone is aware of? I may have to learn to love the stuff called "devil's dung"/hing, which seems to be the most popular substitution, but I'm curious about garlic chives, elephant garlic (not really garlic?), "society garlic", etc. I'm not reactive to onions, so there may be some hope regarding other members of the Allium family.

/feeling sorry for self

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Man, that’s rough.

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by SF Pete on Dec 11, 2009 4:54 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry hairball. That sucks.

by goGSW24 on Dec 11, 2009 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

I’m sorry man. How did you find out? An allergy test?

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by rotorueter on Dec 11, 2009 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

I’m also sensitive to corn and eggs, but not as bad.

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by hairball on Dec 11, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, you are giving me a bad sort of deja vu… for the last two months, also for medical reasons, I’ve been trying to make decent food without using eggs, corn, potatoes, tomatoes, beef, chicken and wheat (there’s more, but that’s off the top of my head). Which ain’t easy. At any rate, I feel your pain.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I needed to hear from others dealing with similar stuff.

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by hairball on Dec 11, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Try not eating soy… ugh… EVERYTHING seems to have soy in it.
No soy, no transfatty acids, no high fructose corn syrup.

by Merope on Dec 11, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch. You just described 50% of my diet.

by Into the Void on Dec 11, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Among other things… did I mention no dairy? It’s my wife on the restricted diet, but I try and cook stuff we can both eat. Tonight it’s roasted leg of lamb with roasted brussels sprouts, celery, onions, carrots, broccoli, potatoes (for me – I’ll have to separate them out after roasting) and rutebaga. We have turkey stock to deglaze tha pan and I’ll puree some vegetables with the jus to make gravy since thickeners tend to be disallowed. I might try making quinoa for a grain as that’s basically the only one that’s got the green light.
Tomorrow marks the end of the two month super-restrictive diet period and she can try basically one item a week, once, and then see how the reaction goes… if she tolerates it, great, if not we decide whether to just do without or try the desensitization therapy. We think it’s going to take like six months to figure it all out and get normalized.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I was hoping you knew about quinoa!

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by hairball on Dec 12, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

best of luck

sounds really tough, NO DAIRY?!?!?!

by sfoakbay on Dec 12, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to sneak cheese on the side…

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

shallot meet hairball.
hairball, this is shallot.

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by The Gene Hackman on Dec 11, 2009 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

+109

shallots are the perfect flavor marriage betwixt an onion and garlic…but better.

by tyrannoman on Dec 11, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to say shallot too

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by baetown415 on Dec 11, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I love shallots

Haven’t cooked with them much, but I imagine I will be.

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by hairball on Dec 11, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad uses garlic in every thing, and to good effect… not eating garlic sucks.

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by Ramah71 on Dec 11, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I really do like them better than onions or garlic. I also find them a lot easier to work with than garlic. No sticky residue on your hands after prepping them

by tyrannoman on Dec 12, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I was going to suggest shallots too, but you probably want to check with a professional – are shallots to close to garlic? will you still be allergic? Same for wild garlic or garlic greens.

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by kennv on Dec 12, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Shallot meat hairballs sound gross.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 13, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what my cat coughed up after eating my leftovers

And you’re right, the sound the cat made when harbling was pretty gross.

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by hairball on Dec 14, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Does it include wild garlic?

It’s sometimes called green garlic (though, other things are called green garlic a bit, too), and it looks a bit like a large scallion, except maybe with a bit of a purply tinge. The leaves, esp, are quite garlicky. I don’t know if you live in San Francisco, but they have them in Rainbow from time to time, and also at the Alemeny farmers market (which is generally awesome, anyway)

 I guess it comes down to what bit of it you’re allergic to.

Thank god it’s not all alliums, though! that’d be the worst.

I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does

by bobnothing on Dec 11, 2009 5:32 PM PST reply actions  

You can usually only get green garlic in the spring.

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by jcb9 on Dec 11, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah... I thought this, too

but I saw some in Rainbow a couple of weeks back, so I guess some farmers are growing it commercially.

Also, given a greenhouse, should be easy enough to grow ones own

I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does

by bobnothing on Dec 11, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm really not sure

I have a lot of work ahead of me to narrow stuff down, and since I’m currently on “elimination” mode, I probably have to wait a while before introducing the possible alternatives.

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by hairball on Dec 11, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

also - Ramps!

I can’t believe I didn’t think of that earlier. Though, I’ve never seen any in San Francisco. Super tasty, mind.

I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does

by bobnothing on Dec 11, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think so

green garlic is just garlic pulled before the bulb matures. Although green onions are distinct varieties bred (and or bombed with gamma rays etc.) to not produce a bulb at all, green garlic is literally unripe garlic.

Garlic can be grown in two seasons here, via spring planting or fall planting. So it could be that some growers are pulling up some of their fall planting to use for green garlic now.

I don’t know what garlic allergy really indicates though, so it could be that whatever acids etc. that concentrate in the bulb aren’t present in the immature form so you could eat it. But it’s the exact same plant.

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by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh jeez dude. If I was allergic to garlic, I’d just end my life.

I echo the suggestion for shallots above. They’re more expensive and have a sharper flavor, but it can do in a pinch.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2009 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

Ah Baron, you know just how to console a guy!

But it is pretty overwhelming, yes.

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by hairball on Dec 11, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit that’s fuck

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 6:14 PM PST reply actions  

:(

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by thehavenot on Dec 11, 2009 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

That sucks beyond imagining… I use garlic in just about everything.
Two things though – First, elephant garlic isn’t actually garlic (but in the interest of covering my ass, that doesn’t mean you aren’t allergic to it). Also, my wife has health issues where food allergies have become very important and there are apparently allergy desensitization treatments that allow exposure to the food without the allergic reaction.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 6:35 PM PST reply actions  

I've been told that it could go away over time and be re-introduced

And I’m super hopeful that I may be able to eat elephant garlic, which is apparently in the leek family more than the garlic family.

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by hairball on Dec 11, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Once, about 8 years ago, I ate some tuna salad for dinner, and woke up with my hands twice their normal size. I got tested and found out that, out of nowhere, I had developed such an extreme allergy to all types of fish, that I should avoid being in a room where fish are being cooked. A few years later I got tested again, and it completely passed. Now I eat tons of fish.

So there’s hope.

I was promised lasagna.

by Cookyman on Dec 12, 2009 7:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I think

you’ll be happier with the shallots than the elephant garlic, but YMMV. I don’t think elephant garlic tastes like much. I hope you’ll post a follow up at some point as this is interesting… I’ll be curious to see how you do with everything.

You could try the garlic fries at the ball yard… whatever that stuff is doesn’t seem to be garlic!

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by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:27 AM PST up reply actions  

my pour cousin just found out she’s allergic to wheat gluten, eggs, and corn. I don’t know how she does it.

by tyrannoman on Dec 11, 2009 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

I used to date a girl with the same thing but to top it off she was allergic to peanuts and also lactose intolerant. The best part about that relationship ending was that I could add some variety back into my diet.

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by j14 on Dec 11, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s a “pour cousin”?

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by The Enchanter on Dec 12, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry hairball. But I wouldn’t mind getting a “hairball is a vampire”-meme going.

I just put two and two together this week & realized I get an allergic reaction to our two new beagle puppies. I was getting red breakouts on my hands & knuckles and it finally dawned on me I let them lick my hands.

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by ResDog on Dec 11, 2009 8:01 PM PST reply actions  

Allergies suck!

And my co-workers cracked up that I’m a vampire as well, so yeah, I got that going for me! :F

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by hairball on Dec 11, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder

are all the garlic eaters here keeping vampires away?

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by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Mr. and Mrs. Hairball

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by RDreamer on Dec 11, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

I can guess this is from Twilight. I won’t ask who they are because I won’t know when someone tells me.

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by SFGuy on Dec 11, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

wow. How did you ever know that was from Twilight?

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by rxmeister on Dec 12, 2009 6:37 AM PST up reply actions  

team jacob! awoooo!

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by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Dec 14, 2009 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Hariball wears too much foundation.

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by oldjacket on Dec 12, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I would suggest you avoid pounding stakes into your heart as well. Just as a precaution.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

A giants fan and allergic to garlic

This combination has been thought to be mutually exclusive. You are now a write-up in a major medical journal. Giants fan exhibits allergy to Garlic. We are talking cover article.

by bradleybear on Dec 11, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

damn that really blows, garlic is hard to replace.

by Unitard on Dec 11, 2009 11:44 PM PST reply actions  

Can you still drive through Gilroy?

by Fresburg on Dec 12, 2009 7:10 AM PST reply actions  

True story:

I was born in Watsonville.

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by hairball on Dec 12, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too!

but I’m not allergic to anything….

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by goGSW24 on Dec 12, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

perhaps you haven’t been properly tested.

by tyrannoman on Dec 12, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Pajaro valley FTW!

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by hairball on Dec 14, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

+109!!!

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by goGSW24 on Dec 15, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, as a fellow garlic fan and food lover, you have my deepest sympathies.

Since you are already familiar with the reaction you have to garlic, what’s worse? Not having the garlic or the symptoms you get when you eat it? Is this something you can indulge in occasionally, knowing full well the consequences? Or do you have to forswear the bulb forevermore?

I’m just asking if this is REALLY the end of your love affair with garlic, or just a recognition that it’s a love affair that’s dirty and wrong and therefore even more awesome.

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by Skaldheim on Dec 12, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

+1

Seriously, after thinking I was gluten-intolerant for years, and sneaking bread all the time anyway, I know more than any man should about food infidelity.

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by hairball on Dec 12, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

well,

I’m not inviting you to Orthodox Easter, then.

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by oldjacket on Dec 12, 2009 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

That sucks, man. Garlic is delicious. If you’re looking for a silver lining, there could be one: sacrificing a dietary staple will likely force you to experiment with new foods and new flavors, and you’ll probably discover some cool stuff. When I gave up eating meat years ago, I had that experience. At first it was difficult, but not relying on the old comfort foods got me eating all kinds of different veggies and grains and whatnot to compensate. Maybe you’ll discover a love of shallots or some other food that you otherwise never would have known.

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by neurofarm on Dec 12, 2009 11:39 AM PST reply actions  

My Italian grandparents shed a tear for you.

For what it’s worth, shallots might serve as a rough proxy. I actually use them instead of garlic often because of the overuse of garlic during my childhood. I know they are in the allium family, but maybe you’d have less of a sensitivity?

I’d think of it more like you’ve been liberated from using garlic. It’s kind of a cheap way to flavor.

by grape on Dec 12, 2009 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

I bought some shallots today

Figure I’ll risk it.

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by hairball on Dec 12, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

God be with you, my son.

by tyrannoman on Dec 12, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

He hasn’t responded. I am scared.

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by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by say hey nation on Dec 14, 2009 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

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by hairball on Dec 14, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Aaaah bummer. When I need to make pasta sauce and have no garlic I use a half onion — saute it in butter (don’t cut it up) and then throw out the actual onion (I grew a ton of them this year, so I have them to spare) and what butter you have left kinda tastes garlicky … with enough basil and oregano.

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by tk on Dec 12, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions  

/laughs at discerning palates as he opens a jar of Prego

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by victor frankenstein on Dec 14, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

/muses on “flavor”

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by victor frankenstein on Dec 14, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

My dad use to judge people in the supermarket who bought canned sauce.

Good thing he lives across the country from me.

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by say hey nation on Dec 14, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I withered from his glare. I now avoid not only that aisle but the entire store.

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by victor frankenstein on Dec 14, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Its the tale of a forbidden love.

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by say hey nation on Dec 14, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

We buy the canned stuff and then add spices and whatnot to it.

by Merope on Dec 14, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Prego.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

That's pretty clever.

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by hairball on Dec 14, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

My mom is allergic to garlic, had to give it up at 40 or so. Yeah, a lot of onions and shallots.

I think I probably am allergic also, but it’s not bothering me bad enough (yet) to give it up.

by microwave donut on Dec 14, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

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