The Giants have no alibi: He's Uggla
by Grant on Dec 11, 2009 12:36 PM PST
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The worst thing about the offseason -- other than that minor detail about there not being baseball to watch -- is the amateur general managing. And, yeah, I'm as guilty as the next guy, but if I have to hear or read one more person say something like this...
Nick Johnson? Eight home runs and 62 RBI? Oh, yeah, another Ishikawa. Sabean is such an idiot! Get Jason Bay!!!
...a piston will snap inside my brain, and I'll shoot up a Kinko's or something. I welcome the Sabean-directed anger, but it's for all of the wrong reasons. It's like walking out of Red Planet or Mission to Mars and saying, "Man, that movie sucked! Why did it have to be set on Mars?" Yes, it did suck, but your reasoning is idiotic. And it makes me want to punch things. Excuse me while I punch things.
This isn't to suggest that I'm better than these fans. I'm only suggesting that I'm smarter. Also, better.
So when someone comes up that almost everyone can agree with in theory -- Dan Uggla, a guy who can hit in the middle of the order without the other team giggling -- that should be a good thing, right? If the difference were between a free Uggla and a free Nick Johnson, well, there might be some spirited debates, but everyone can agree that there's a wee difference between a free Uggla and starting Jose Castillo.
Ah, but this Uggla is not free. The Marlins will want some young players in return. So with Pablo Sandoval and Freddy Sanchez able to play a couple different positions, it would make more sense to concentrate on the players who can be obtained through free agency, right? It's the Lenox Financial of roster moves! Keep the minor leaguers, especially considering that either Uggla or Sanchez would have to play out of position.
Then why do I want Uggla?
Everyone has one. Some are better at suppressing it. I thought I was. But I see that Uggla is a perennial 30-homer player, and the gland starts a-pumpin'. Logic is taken over by chemistry. And I want Dan Uggla on the San Francisco Giants as long as it doesn't take a prospect who will eventually be a good, cheap player. I have a secret list of all of the prospects who will turn into good, cheap players, so I reserve the right to be outraged in five years.
There are very good reasons not to acquire Uggla. He's not a good defender at second, and he'd be an unknown at third or, gulp, in left field. He'll cost the Giants a prospect or two. His patience is improving, but his contact skills will keep his production down.
It'd sure be nice, though, if the Giants backed into a lineup with Posey improving on Molina, Uggla improving on Ishikawa, and Sanchez improving on Burriss from last opening day. There's still a chance that the Giants do something stupid even after acquiring Uggla -- "Hey, this team doesn't have a true leadoff hitter with speed! They'll revoke our membership at the Ol' Timey Roster Construction Club! Quick, to the Crappy Transaction Cave!" -- but I'd like a real middle of the order, please. Uggla would be a start.
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But aren’t all FedEx Kinko’ses now FedEx Offices?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. And while there are still places named “Kinko’s” in San Francisco, they do not have copy machines or photo printers. They do, however, have plenty of shrink-wrap.
by troymccluresf on Dec 11, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
WANNA COME WITH, HOWIE?
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Nah… shrink wrap is probably the last thing I need.
Do they, uh, happen to have any of the opposite of shrink wrap? I think it would be called grow wrap.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Those vacuum thingies …?
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Is there any chance of trying Uggla at first?
has he ever played there? just wondering
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well sure
I’m just saying, if we did end up getting Uggla and not Johnson – would it make sense to keep Pablo at 3rd, Sanchez at 2nd, and play Uggz at 1st – or would it be better to do Uggla at 2nd, Sanchez at 3rd, and Pablo at 1st?
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If we got Uggla
I think it would make the most sense to put him at 3rd or 1st. He player 228 games at third in the minors, so he’s probably just as good(or should I say bad) there as he is at 2nd.
But, I got to say, with the Giants interest in Uggla, Mark DeRosa, Orlando Hudson, and possibly bringing back Juan Uribe, Sabean really jumped the gun in signing Sanchez. I know he only resigned him to save his own ass so it didn’t look like he wasted Alderson. But, we probably would have been just as well with Uribe at third and Uggla at second, and for much less money
by NateEveryday on Dec 11, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
OR
Pablo – Black Hole – Uggla – Johnson
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Yes we want Uggla and Johnson
BUT, We know Sanchez will play either 2b or 3B and we know Pablo will play either 3B or 1B. We also know that the solid lock for the 2010 lineup is Rentarrhea in the 2 holes, and at SS. This means if we got Johnson, clearly he can only play 1B, Pablo would have to play 3B, which would mean Sanchez would have to play 2B which leaves no place for Uggla other than the OF which Grant was the first to speculate on (I have not heard it reported from any Giants beat writers, national hacks or otherwise). So, I don’t see how we can have both unless Uggla moves to LF, which would surprise me.
"…this thing which tells time."
Why are we not trading Rentarrhea for Bradley?
It seems to me this is the easiest and most dramatic lineup improvement we could make.
"…this thing which tells time."
my guess
that would require the cubs wanting renteria.
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
They are dying to unload MB and can't find a taker.
You don’t think they would trade MB’s 24 million for Rentarrhea’s 9?
"…this thing which tells time."
I just can't see them not accepting that.
It would be a huge salary dump, and we would add a player who woould be our second best hitter in place of our worst for 3 mil this year. Still money to sign Johnson and trade for Uggla.
RF MB
SS Sanchez
1B Johnson
3B Pablo
2B Uggla
C Posey
LF Bowker
CF Rowand
Sure you take a chance with Sanchez at SS, but it’d be worth it IMO.
Sabean is a bitter, prideful jackass for not calling Chicago about Rentarrhea for MB. I hate him.
"…this thing which tells time."
Milton Bradley leading off???
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
He put up like a .380 OBP last year
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Just seems like an odd choice. Like you pointed out, the OBP would make it work
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Would like the Giants to make a run at Bradley but was hoping to dump off Rowand or another salary If Reneteria goes and Cubs eat some salary the Giants still need to fine another SS. Maybe the Jays trade the newly signed Alex Gonzalez if they pick up Erick Aybar from Angels in rumored Halladay
I see about 93 DINGERZ there
RF MB
SS Sanchez
1B Johnson – 8
3B Pablo – 30
2B Uggla – 25
C Posey – 6
LF Bowker – 12
CF Rowand – 12
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Oops..forgot the 1st 2
RF MB – 18
SS Sanchez – 6
1B Johnson – 8
3B Pablo – 30
2B Uggla – 25
C Posey – 6
LF Bowker – 12
CF Rowand – 12
OK, so about 117
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
and if Posey and Johnson hit more, it could be close to 130
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
if they give him 550 PA, he could hit 20+ HR.
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I went like this
RF MB-18
SS Sanchez-8
1B Johnson – 10
3B Pablo – 30
2B Uggla – 30
C Posey – 12
LF Bowker – 18
CF Rowand – 15
141
Bowker would need 600 AB which we all know wouldn’t happen and Buster would probably need 450-500 which is highly unlikely.
Truth is either Sabean doesn’t really want to upgrade the offense, or he is just too stubborn to make changes that would really improve the team, because, except for the 2011 year on MB these are all pretty much payroll neutral moves when you compare to last year.
"…this thing which tells time."
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, we’ll be “in this thing!”
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Renteria, Lewis & Rowand
I do believe that the Giants can trade Rowand for Bradley which gives the Giants more pop, puts Torres or Velez in CF and leading off, puts Bradley in the 5-hole, Sanchez in the #2, Nick Johnson if we sign him at #3, Schierholtz at #6, SS #7 and Posey #8. This is all pretty easy and the only thing then would be if they could get Uggla for not too much, then they should get another starter instead of Johnson. Throw Renteria and Lewis in any deal where necessary, but get them and Rowand off MY TEAM. If we get rid of Renteria, then we have to figure out SS….there are some options out there better than Renteria, but no Giants SS prospects are ready for 2010 and probably not 2011, either…2012 is another matter, as they have some options down there. Unfortunately, I think Bocock will always be overmatched offensively and Burris, as well. I also think that all the Giants young players who have worked with Meulens will improve under his watch. Rowand & Co. are probably not going to be more patient. Unfortunately, as great a guy as Carney is, he rubbed a lot of young players the wrong way and they tuned him out and never was able to get in synch with guys like Rowand, for whatever reason. I have seen over the years that some hitting instructors don’t adjust themselves to what the player is capable of, so they don’t listen, or the overhaul doesn’t work. The Charley Lau/Walt Hriniak methods are good for some and not others, depending on body type and natural movement. And some hitters just won’t listen to anybody…or particular instructors approach them in the wrong way. Nobody could get Bo Jackson to shorten his stance and use his hips….or bunt, but if they had, he would have been the greatest hitter of all time because he had quicker wrists than Boggs, Brett, Mays, Aaron, Gwynn, or anyone else I have seen, yet because he was so strong and started his swing so far back, unable to use his hips, he couldn’t adjust to pitches like the others so he struck out too much.
Short compact swings with great hip rotation, leaving the ability to keep the hands back longer is the best swing (can you say Barry?)! Schierholtz and others need to learn a little about that and as a result they have the opportunity to be “free swingers” with smaller strike zones and better ability to adjust and lay off bad pitches….exactly what Meulens preaches. Will that make Ishikawa a good enough hitter? Afraid not.
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Rowand for Bradley
cut Renteria
Bocock and Burriss suck
Carney was bad hitting coach.
Bo Jackson could have been best of all time
Scheierholtz, Ishiwkawa not so much.
In short:
Duh
Duh,
Duh,
Huh?
Wut
Duh
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….if he learned to bunt.
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Makes sense.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Bo Jackson
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by natteringnabob on Dec 14, 2009 7:09 AM PST up reply actions
I only got this far
I do believe that the Giants can trade Rowand for Bradley
But why would they want to take on an extra year of salary? It’s not like Rowand is a desirable commodity. I’d much rather take MB for Rentarrhea even if it meant paying every penny of MB ’s 2011 which I believe is 12 million.
"…this thing which tells time."
Are you asking why would the Cubs want to take on an extra year of salary? Bradley’s contract is like $15M less than Rowand’s.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Rowand has 3 years left
MB 2
Roughly the same annual salary.
I don’t understand the point of your question. Do you think the Cubs want to add contract years in a trade of Bradley?
"…this thing which tells time."
I was under the general impression that the Cubs would be interested in a Rowand for Bradley deal but that sabes isn’t into it. So with that in mind, when you said this:
But why would they want to take on an extra year of salary?
I wasn’t sure if you had the contracts reversed or if you thought the cubs wouldn’t be into it. Now I see you don’t think the Cubs would be into it.
BTW, Sabes described that trade as addition by subtraction.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
I’ve never heard anything about the cubs interest in Rowand other than messageboard speculation. I don’t think the Cubs would want Rowand for Bradley. Why would they? Maybe if the Giants sent 5-6 million with him.
Rentarrhea is worse and would make the trade a salary dump for the Cubs. Makes a lot more sense than Rownad.
"…this thing which tells time."
from our point of view
rowand for bradley is awesome. it’s pretty good for them too, as cubs fans are absolutely sick of bradley and want rowand’s gritty gamerness. of course, as giants fans, we know all about his veteran savvy
Wait a minute...
Aren’t you the “I’ve had 186 players tell me how great my baseball knowledge is” guy?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Just so you know
I have been a baseball "insider" having interned with counsel for the Mariners, having represented player, having had 20 good friends who played, including All-Stars, I have scouted and had a passion for baseball for about 50 years-and I am a few away from being 60. I have had two players tell me that they never met ANYONE-in or out of baseball- that knew as much as I do about all aspects of the game….I don’t, in fact, agree-there are quite a few who know more, but the players I have known over the years always paid me high complements about my knowledge and that I just considered them regular guys….as a result, I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed
Anyone who has studied the game knows that a rookie catcher breaking in and taking the position full-time is rarely successful. Most young catchers get two full Septembers before they are full-time, add to that the fact that Posey wasn’t a catcher until late in college, and you create an extraordinarily high level of stress on him to perform up to his clippings as a rookie. With proper nurturing, I have little doubt of his eventual stardom. He has Johnny Bench TYPE talent (not saying he is another Bench, but has that range of talent-big hands, strong arm, hit for power and probably better average than Bench). He has the ability to play defense because of soft hands, etc., but time will tell. Molina brings the 1st choice of team that signs as well as sandwich pick if offered arb…I think he will resign 1 yr. w/ 2 options.
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by jcb9 on Dec 11, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He interned with Counsell.
And he’s at least 55-60. And it took me like 12 minutes to get throught the first paragraph (if that is what you call that collection of words and random punctuation marks).
"…this thing which tells time."
Council>Pods?
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Truly the highest form of epicness.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
By the way
The “just so you know” thing was his fifth comment on MCC.
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mb is a douche
i’d rather see the gmen in last than him in orange and black
by Change Up on Dec 11, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s pretty silly.
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Yes it is.
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lol um no
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I wouldn’t go that far about last place… but Bradley is an asshole.
I’m not interested in having to root for him.
I dunno
I’ve rooted for assholes before. Some I knew were assholes before the rooting, some revealed themselves after.
Only a few have risen to the point where I couldn’t have them on the team, and they were also non-performers. Pierzynski, Benitez, whiney Molina
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to be fair
bradley had a perfectly good reason to argue that one. mike winters was the asshole in that incident
Is Mike Winters still an ump? He shouldn’t be.
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To be honest
He was kinda right in all his incidents. It doesn’t make his actions justified, but there really aren’t any A.J.-punching-Conte-in-the-balls type of incidents. The main bad things he did:
- Getting pissed at Mike Winters – like you said, while it’s an obvious overreaction, Bradley had a perfectly good reason to be pissed. Winters is the one who should have gotten most of the crap.
- Getting pissed at Cubs fans for yelling racist things at him. This one is on the Cubs. Or, to be honest, it’s MLB’s fault. The Cubs have absolutely no reason to try to tame their fans – what are they going to do? Stop selling beer? Revoke season tickets? Ban fans from the stadium? All these things things would just cost them money. MLB needs to start fining teams for their fans’ behavior. There’s a similar system in soccer, and it sure made teams care a hell of a lot more about how their fans act.
- The announcers incident. This is worst one, and Bradley’s behavior was inexcusable. But seriously, how come no one talked about the announcer?
Lefebvre said, from what he remembers, that he was complimenting Josh Hamilton and how he’s been accountable for his mistakes and said “it doesn’t appear Milton Bradley has done the same thing in his life.”
I mean, seriously, WTF? He basically compared him to a heroin addict on TV, for absolutely no reason.
I was promised lasagna.
That was the Royals announcer, right?
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 13, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
let me clarify. Velez/Torres, Rowand, Nate is embarassing. Rowand, Bowker, Lewis I am fine with.
No one here gets out alive.
I could get excited about that.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 11, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
apparently everyone thinks ATT right field is too complicated for FLEW’s brain.
No one here gets out alive.
arches, man! crazy!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Lewis has his flaws, but range isn’t one of them, and that seems well suited for our RF.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
this
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
yeah man i agree. just being sarcastic about how everyone thinks ATT right field is a mystery only conquered by really smart outfielders like randy winn.
No one here gets out alive.
Sorry, I should have been more clear
I realized you yourself weren’t disparaging him.
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that’s an interesting thought. I think Schierholtz, Bowker and Lewis could all play RF, but lewis is an interesting option.
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
nate is
all around better than lewis. he’s proven himself better in the bigs too than bowker.
nate is all around better than lewis.
not really
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a very excited plus sign.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
You dig?
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Lewis: 3.9 WAR in 1048 AB
Schierholtz: 1.4 WAR in 506 PA
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Truly your logic is irrefutable!
IRREFUTABLE! I mean, you said it. So it’s true! Who needs “supporting evidence”? Fuck that shit, I say.
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Embarrassing?
You are embarrassing. Does anyone realize that Schierholtz has been pressing because he has NEVER been given the opportunity to know he will be in the lineup with any regularity?
I agree that he needs to limit his strikeouts and be more selective so that he is not swinging at balls in the dirt, unless he can be like Pablo and actually hit them, but this is a guy who, given a real opportunity will give you .280-.300, 18-25 and 85-100. His minor league stats are very good, AND the biggest difference with him in his jump is that line drive hitters usually improve at the major league level IF they can hit breaking pitches. Nate is a pure line drive hitter with power and he doesn’t have an uppercut swing like many left-handed hitters. Make no mistake, he is very strong and has good power, he just doesn’t lift the ball all that much…or didn’t in the minors. He also is an above average outfielder with great speed and range and an incredible arm. It is possible, however, that the Giants’ treatment of him has ruined him (they have a history-it took Torrealba 3 years away to develop, and the list of players damaged by their handling with the Giants goes on as long as I remember, which is way too long).
Can't put Nate in the lineup every day.
No idea what he will do.
Not enough ABZZZZZZZ!
Don’t know what the rest said. The human eye is only capable fo focusing on 20 characters at a time.
"…this thing which tells time."
Every day
150 games….and then we will know what he will do….my bet is that it will read something like: .284/.340/19/86-depending on where they bat him and I think if he gets comfortable and confident, by the time he is 30, it will be more like .305/.385/25/95…can we live with that with his defense and his speed and his arm? All-Star would be possible but the G-men will have too many contenders in 4 years if they keep all their pitchers and Posey is who everyone believes he is.
Never happens
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, a guy who never walked more than 35 times in an extensive minor league career is definitely a good bet to have an OBP of almost .400.
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I’ll go ahead and say it, Schierholtz is not good.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
He doesn’t have enough pitch recognition to hit that well over a prolonged period of time.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Off your backfoot.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Not enough ABZZZZ
Rumors of poor soldierness inhibit additional ABZZZ
"…this thing which tells time."
.284/.340/19/86
To achieve that line Nate would need to walk in about 8% of his PAs. His career high, in the majors and minors, for BB% came in 2008 in Fresno (his second year there), when he managed 5.7%. I can’t envision a scenario where Nate suddenly acquires that level of plate discipline. (The 19 HRs would also represent a career high, BTW.)
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
I know nothing about you, but saw Schierholtz play quite a bit in the minors and am pretty sure he can be a very good ballplayer….no HOF, but All-Star caliber.
Just so you know
I have been a baseball “insider” having interned with counsel for the Mariners, having represented player, having had 20 good friends who played, including All-Stars, I have scouted and had a passion for baseball for about 50 years-and I am a few away from being 60. I have had two players tell me that they never met ANYONE-in or out of baseball- that knew as much as I do about all aspects of the game….I don’t, in fact, agree-there are quite a few who know more, but the players I have known over the years always paid me high complements about my knowledge and that I just considered them regular guys….as a result, I sometimes still can get insider info and I am not a dumb or average fan.
Molina is needed
Anyone who has studied the game knows that a rookie catcher breaking in and taking the position full-time is rarely successful. Most young catchers get two full Septembers before they are full-time, add to that the fact that Posey wasn’t a catcher until late in college, and you create an extraordinarily high level of stress on him to perform up to his clippings as a rookie. With proper nurturing, I have little doubt of his eventual stardom. He has Johnny Bench TYPE talent (not saying he is another Bench, but has that range of talent-big hands, strong arm, hit for power and probably better average than Bench). He has the ability to play defense because of soft hands, etc., but time will tell. Molina brings the 1st choice of team that signs as well as sandwich pick if offered arb…I think he will resign 1 yr. w/ 2 options.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
yes
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
THE LEGEND CONTINUES
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Dec 11, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
tl;dr
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
It's only 9+ lines
I guess Twitter really does define the current era.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
If it was someone who's opinion I was interested in, I'd bother reading it
also, it’s a huge block of text. Not easy on the eyes.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
He is also a hitter who is completely unable to recognize a breaking ball from righties or lefties.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
but but but
best defense in MLB
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 11, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
You restrained yourself from using the “P-word” there at the end. Good job.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions
Prostate?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Provolone?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Perestroika!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
P-Funk?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Persnickety.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
prognostication
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Plethora
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
Official McPokeMaster
Registered Velezbian and supporter of Fredemption
by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Pyogenic
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Piezoelectric
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Phosphorylation
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Phenylketonurics
I swear to god, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Dec 11, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Alkaptonurics
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'm all for Uggla
over every other player I’ve seen the Giants connected to all offseason. Get r done!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 12:42 PM PST reply actions
Are there any indications as to who we might give up? As long as it’s not Bumgarner, I don’t really care.
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
GAMESIX ENDORSES POSEY FOR UGGLA
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
RED SIX IS STILL STANDING BY!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I WOULD ENDORSE THIS SIGNING
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
BONDSLEGEND ASKS SABEAN TO SIGN JOHNSON
Sabean replies, I think there’s only room for my intials
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by Goofus on Dec 11, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
this should be green
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, fuck you
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
But well played
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Goofus, you are one s(l)ick puppy
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
/makes scrambled eggs and lobster
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'm uncomfortable with the line this discussion is taking
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Uggla over Johnson, even if it does cost prospects
Younger, consistent (lowest OPS in his 4 years is 806 and has played around 150 games in each season), and has no injury history to speak of.
Ideally, we could get both. But if I could only get one, it’d be Uggla.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
since one is a free agent and one is a trade, there should be no reason getting one would prevent us from the other.
No one here gets out alive.
A self imposed Payroll might make this an either/or choice if were the team Big Head would play them doesn’t.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 11, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
But it’s all about whether the Giants have the balls to say that Rent should not be our everyday SS or not. Otherwise, we have too many infielders.
Unless, of course, we try the Uggla in LF experiment.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
The LF thing I go back and forth on. This is fly ball staff after all and we definitely don’t have infield d to be expecting Pitches to routinely get outs on grounders and Uggla’s range is not exactly encouraging.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 11, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Isn’t Uggla’s biggesnt problem handling sharp grounders? I wouldn’t get many of those in LF.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Tease me with talk of Johnson or Uggla at 1st all you want.
With the first 3 moves of the Giants this offseason I am convencied if Sabean bows to his Dingers Gland it will be to bring in Olivio at C and Jacobs at 1st for 40+ DingerZ!!! next season. Of course this being a Sabean Giants team those 40 + DingerZ!!! will be accompanied by 65 Bid EyeZ. But that is a just an unfortunate side effect of sub 310 OBP in the 1 & 2 spots of the order.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
I really want uggla
but i feel like uggla would allow sabean to to get off the hook about garko. “We really wanted to keep him but we had a full infield and needed some flexibility so there was not room for him on the roster” sort of thing. Getting a good player shouldn’t justify releasing garko. Sorry about that rant im just really upset that garko wont get tendered a contract
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions
It was a great July showing to save his job, now wasn’t it?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 11, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean could include Garko in the deal to free up the roster spot.
I would fine with that if it saved another prospect being included.
by VizquelQuest on Dec 11, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Great idea.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
yeah but
Garko is not getting a large arb award, and is young and decent – could be the kind of player FLA is looking for, if they want a position player at all
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
he could include a moldy cheese sandwich
too, but I doubt it would sweeten the deal. You are talking about a player THAT THE GIANTS ARE PLANNING TO NON-TENDER.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Pablo at 3rd, Sanchez at 2nd, Johnson at 1st and Uggla in LF.
1 Rowand CF
2 Sanchez 2B
3 Johnson 1B
4 Sandoval 3B
5 Uggla LF
6 Bowker/Scierholtz RF
7 Posey C
8 Renteria SS
Yikes
I’d rather just play Sanchez at SS, Uggla at 2nd, and someone who can move in left.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Great minds!
I think you’ll go far, kid.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I’d be really inclined to see if Sanchez could play SS and put Uggla at 2B. I’d do (just about) anything to get Renteria out of the everyday lineup.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
SS
I agree, has there been anything in the past to prove that Sanchez can’t play SS?
by panda revival on Dec 11, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
What about Johnson leading off?
Didnt Boston do that a couple years ago with Youkilis because of the crazy OBP?
Johnson
Sanchez
Sandoval
Uggla
Bowker
Posey
Rowand
Renteria
I like that more then Scott personally
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
“What about Johnson ____ing off” is a pretty useful sentence template.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
What would we be willing to give up?
Kieshnick for Uggla? Is that enough? Kieshnick & Noonan for Uggla? Too much? I’m trying to figure out what the consensus is.
Not sure what to do about my screen name at this point...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Dec 11, 2009 12:50 PM PST reply actions
They probably want pitching first and foremost
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
So if it’s not Madbum and we can’t deal Wheeler, who would they want? If Runzler really is our #5 prospect, I guess they’d zero in on him?
Runzler + Noonan?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I would hope that’s the ceiling on talent level. Can I trust Sabes to negotiate lower than that?
Probably not.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I hope we keep Runzler, dude is nasty. I remember when they brought him up last year watching him pitch the first time, I sat up in my chair and was like “WTF?!”
F. the Lewis.
Dude was fun to watch in San Jose
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Runzler did a great job last September, but I would still be OK with trading him for an offensive upgrade.
I am pretty “meh” on relievers in general.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
There’s talk that if he dangles long enough with no biters that the Marlins might go for a couple B pitching prospects because they’d rather have something and have Uggla off the books. His trade value will only lower as the season moves along.
I dangle plenty long, but I’m never looking for biters.
His trade value will only lower as the season moves along.
Maybe, maybe not. We don’t really know what Uggla’s value is at the moment. If someone else swoops in tomorrow and trades for him, his value is established. His value could also go up as the trade deadline approaches, depending on different team’s needs.
The point is, the more teams that want him, the more his value will increase.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Dec 11, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. 2 full seasons verse 1 and a half seasons doesn’t change value so much.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Im fearful of runzler being part of it but id do it. Would HATE to do Neal.
Could see Keischnick and maybe Sosa? Craig Clark?
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Best offer
should be Tanner and Adrianza. Anything better than that and we should walk.
Ideally, we’d go something like Juaquin and Garko.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
Uggla Johnson
Would be a nice addition to the Giants, but the terms makes me imagine howtheyscored naked.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
You’ve made me legally blind from that visualization
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Howie looks pretty good naked.
(And yes, I have seen him naked!)
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
I thought he likes the lights off
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
To clarify this for everybody, I only did it because I needed your opinion on something.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
A kundis?
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Shhhh
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Couldn’t decide on the mangina, huh?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
There’s an app for that.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Only can happen if
Uggla plays LF, Pablo plays C, or Rentarrhea is traded or benched and Sanchez plays SS.
"…this thing which tells time."
... like renteria?
Sanchez is probably at least as good defensively as rent.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
50% of BLB's brain is a dingerz gland
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 12:51 PM PST reply actions
Enlarged dingerz gland could result in having to go more frequently.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn't a going problem
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Here is what happens when you take that hollistic crap
to cure a over active dingerz gland
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions
SIDE EFFECTS INCLUDE PURPLE PINSTRIPE DREAMS!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I do feel like my DINGERZ gland might be influencing my opinion on Uggla.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
im super "meh" on him
but like everyone else, I’d be down if the price is low. I guess I don’t care about DINGERZZZZZ as much. Maybe I should see a doctor about my shrunken gland or something.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously my enthusiasm for Uggla hinges on whether or not he’ll cost Thomas Neal.
If yes, GET THE FUCK OUT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Your NEAL gland is showing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Just curious, do you think there is a high chance that Neal will be more valuable in the future than Uggla is now?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
In a vacuum probably not, but for one year of Uggla yes
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
I thought Uggla was under contract for two years, but I appear to have been wrong.
Though I can’t believe this hasn’t been noticed: Uggla has Bonds’ old agent, Borris.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
But I think not considering that is how prospects get over-valued.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Make sure they order a PET scan for that.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Do girls have the same kind of DINGERZ gland?
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Long Ball gland.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
oh that’s why they dig it!
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
aren’t long balls just ovals?
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Dec 11, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
My dingerz glad hasn't developed yet
If a guy hits, 45-70 HRs are a year, I’m excited, but to me the difference between 25 and 30 HRs a years doesn’t seem that great.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I can only trust a guy who hits 73 dingerz in a year
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Well, we don’t have anyone on the roster that’s going to put up 25 HRs, so someone capable of giving us 30 HRs gets me randy.
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 11, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
A Mr. Sandoval would like to have a word with you.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Somebody forgot about a street walking panda with a heart full of napalm
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
It shouldn’t.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Fixed
It shouldn’t. better not
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Hell no it won’t.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Frandsen.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
It is a Kool aid flavor that is currently banned in the club house.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
You spelled Niekrool-aid wrong.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
No, He’s our starting All star SS
I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken
by joeytothelimit on Dec 11, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Are you Brian Sabean?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
I wasn't insinuating it SHOULD...
taking into account who our GM is I was just implying it might.
by Into the Void on Dec 11, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
I knew it!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
It won't
It’s already be stated the Marlins don’t want Bumgarner and the Giants won’t give up Sanchez. Take your pick from the rest.
Think I remember seeing that too. Now just no Neal or Runzler.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
No.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Dan Johnson
I can has both!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions
The decathlete?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Depends what you call a "choke"
Dan “choked” before Barcelona, but won a gold medal in Atlanta. Dave only won a bronze in Barcelona
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I can’t remember who the other guy was, but I do remember all those Reebok commercials featurung the two
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
Some shoe company that is sewed togther by little pinko commie kids
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently so. Something I learned today: Dan O’Brien is of African-American and Finnish heritage. Well, since his name is O’Brien, that makes perfect sense.
Kinda of like the big Swede on the Sharks, Douglas Murray?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
If the difference were between a free Uggla and a free Nick Johnson…
I think the difference between the two might be a free Nelson Mandela
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Aung San Suu Kyi!
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Happy New Year
For Aung San Suu Kyi, my dear
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
Barry Bonds was crack for my dingerz gland
Adopted father of the prettiest player in the organization, Nestor Rojas.
Until Johnson and Delgado are off the market, I’m not really down with Uggla.
Better offense, without giving up talent, you know.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Better at being broken.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
No worries. It will be none of those. Come April we will be looking at a Olivio , Jacobs & Panda hart of the order.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
I’m totally on board with this as long as PODS is in too.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
We can play Arms Jr a couple days a week and we will be 1/3rd of the way to being the Royals!!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
OJ makes sense
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Dingerz or not, Uggla’s career SLG is just good, nothing special. He got it over .480 once in his career. His OBP was never that good either. He’s definitely a good player, but I really don’t think people should treat him as some great slugger.
I was promised lasagna.
Does he need a BLB OBP to be great?
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
i think he means barry lamar bonds obp
Garlic fries 08
by operation carrot on Dec 11, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Uggla’s OBP is not going to hurt our lineup.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, a career .344 is a pretty respectable OBP.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
He’s a pretty damn good hitter for a second baseman, but we really need to be comparing him to 1B, since that’s who he would be bumping out of the lineup.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Was trying the quick estemate formula in my head. Obviously not a good idea.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
OT
but for an assignment in my AI class this year, I trained a neural net to calculate an approximate wOBA from BA/OBP/SLG, so when we start the community projections, I’ll post wOBA values for anyone who wants it for theirs.
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Don’t work yourself too hard there over Garko, he’s basically gone already.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve never thought much of Garko. I also think Uggla’s more likely to hit close to his career numbers than Garko.
I’m just trying show that the upgrade from Uggla, though real, is pretty marginal.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I dunno, it might be all positional value, but Garko has been worth 0.8, 1.5, 0.5 and 0.8 WAR per year so far in his career. Uggla has been in the 2.5-4.5 range every year.
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Garko loses about a win per year in positional value. Uggla gains about 2.3.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
he gains a full 2.3 WAR solely for positional value?
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I’m pretty sure that’s 2.3 runs above replacement.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Garko’s are right, though. That’s about 1.5 wins in positioning.
Garko is also a really terrible defender, so there’s that.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I break players down into everyday players, table setters, run producers, all stars.
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brian sabean is a total moron
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Well, again
He was 9th among 2B in wOBA this year. 5th last year, 14th in 2007. Good, not great.
I was promised lasagna.
wOBA isn’t park adjusted, is it?
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nope. There’s also not a bunch of 2B that can get into the top 10 consistently, so if you did like a three year average he’s be, I dunno, 6th or 7th.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
He's no great shakes
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Neutralized to the 2009 AT&T Park environment, Uggla’s career SLG becomes .496.
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Hanley says bullshit.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Hanley’s SLG goes up about 10 points if you do this.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
totally kidding.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think anyone here is
just that he hits DINGERZZZZZZZZ and we haven’t had someone who can do that reliably since lamar left. Also, he’d be like the 2nd best hitter on the team.
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no.
2 good hitters = more runs. Doesn’t matter if one is a “tablesetter” or not.
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Lies!
Then what would they use to eat the post-game spread?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Does Garko have any trade value at all at this point...
since another infielder will bury him even deeper?
Whole world knows they can sign him Sunday morning for almost nothing.
"…this thing which tells time."
He didn’t have much trade value six months ago — Scott Barnes isn’t a top prospect or anything. And since then Garko has (a) sucked, and (b) gotten more expensive.
Scott Barnes isn’t a top prospect or anything.
/throws something heavy at sabean
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i don't think garko is some amazing player
but it’s unfair to describe him as someone who has sucked since his trade to the giants considering:
(a) bruce bochy
and
(b) brian sabean
If they get Uggla, I don't think they'll get Johnson
unless Sabes is willing to eat Renteria’s contract and just put him on the bench while moving Franchez to SS. But then they still might need a OF and let the rest of the remaining OFs battle for the spot not taken by the new guy.
Win the inning.
The thing is
Thanks to Pablo and Franchez’s versatility, Renteria could actually function as a utility IF, which wouldn’t be awful.
He could play SS and you could shuffle the rest of the infield so that anyone who needs a rest could get it.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Yup
I’d like a healthy Renteria in the utility INF role. He’d probably give us more than we ever expected from Uribe and we’re paying him anyway.
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but LOL Dodgers:
5. Dodgers: It appears the storied franchise may sit on the sideline as the McCourts duke it out this winter. They will need to find two starting pitchers at some point, but they may have to do it on the cheap. Pineiro would help, but at this point, there’s a chance they may suffer the indignity of having Washington outbid them for someone they want.
unfortunately, the Dodgers have a better excuse.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2009 1:21 PM PST reply actions
LOL HEYMAN
He thought Santana deserved the Cy Young award in 08 because “he pitched in New York”.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yes! #2!!!!
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Retarded GM is retarded.
Even if they eventually get Uggla, they’ll have to figure out how to rework their defensive alignment to fit two second basemen (with Freddy Sanchez being the other).
"…this thing which tells time."
LOL F.Sanchez!!!!
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
This part annoys me
They continue to wait in the unrealistic hope that power-hitting Dan Uggla will be non-tendered by the Marlins
I dont really think anyone thinks we are doing that. But Heyman makes it sound like its fact.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Heyman is kind of a moron.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Since the winter meetings I started following him on Twitter for updates
but that sentence alone makes me want to drop him.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
I did the same with some scout I was following on there (forget his name)
I dropped him because on the night of Dirtys no-no he wrote that the last pitch wasnt a strike.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
great minds
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no kind of
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Brian Sabean
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You should see him in the sack!
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Speaking of that
You should really let him out now. He is going to run out of air.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Just a little longer though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
If I had 1/10000000000000000000000000 of your talent
I’d be 20x better than I am now.
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Nah
just jealous. I really want to be good at drawing but I’m just not. Don’t have whatever gene you need to be artistic.
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Where’s Kevin?
I swear to god, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Dec 11, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
needs moar paparazzi shirt
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Who the fuck cares what that dumbass thinks?
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I am seriously scared about this trade
…But mostly because we haven’t heard about potential players involved, which scares me because it might be Neal.
This is my best case scenario:
LF Fred Lewis, 1B Ryan Garko, RP Steve Edlefsen and 2B Nick Noonan for 2B Dan Uggla
There. I said it. Garko may be in the package because he replaces Ross Gload as a right handed bench bat. Lewis may fit with Florida because it’s possible that they will move Coghlan back to 2B, his natural position. As for edlefsen and noonan, that’s the hope, not the expectation.
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Please take Noonan.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Or they can just wait until Sunday and sign Garko for nothing.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
But then there’s no guarantee that Garko signs with them. Garko would be a toss in in any trade, so it may be a moot point
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think it's Neal
Sabean spoke very highly of him in his MLB chat and seems to be in the Giant’s future plans. I would be very surprised if that’s who we trade.
Also, the Marlins want two pitching prospects in return for Uggla.
I’m guessing Pucetas as he’s close to be a MLB pitcher and probably somebody from AA.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
maybe Pucetas and Joaquin
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
I believe this is where a Scott Barnes might have been handy.
I guess the question is do the Marlins consider Pucetas a pitching prospect?
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Quick, someone forward them our community prospects list from last year!
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See…TOP 10 PROSPECT
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
RIP RYAN THE BIG SADOWSKI
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what is the AAA Fresno starting rotation in 2010?
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
NOOOOOO! The Horror! The Horror!
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I guess show them his numbers at AAA last season
It’s solid but he’s no ace and maybe a #3 starter at best. How about offering Valdez? People tend to fall in love with a pitcher that throws 98-99 mph.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think Pucetas is going to be a #3 starter ever.
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#5 starter at absolute best, I'd say
More likely a middle reliever.
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Shh..don't tell the Marlins
Just say he’s like the huskier version of Matt Cain circa 2005.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Play hard to get
Marlins’ GM: "Hey Bri, how about adding this Kevin Pu…Pussy..tuss kid?
Sabean: “No, no no no no. You kiddin’? We see Placentas as our Matt Cain 2.0, we even traded Alderson because of Kelvin and you want me to throw him in for Uggla? C’mon man.”
Marlins’ GM: “B-ri, Dan is an all-star 2B, we’ll have to have Kevin to make this happen.”
Sabean: “Can’t do it. Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can’t do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win.”
Marlins’ GM: “Umm, okay. I guess we’ll..”
Sabean: “Alright, alright. My toes hurt from all these tire-kicking but if I HAD to include Keith Placebos in the deal to get it done — I’ll do it. [sigh]”
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Just as long as he doesn’t include Madison Rosinbagger, I will be happy.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Don't worry, Rosinbagger stays put
Sabean: “Guys, great news! We got Uggla!”
[All Giants’ pitchers cheer]
Brian Wilson: “So boss, who did we trade for him?”
Sabean: “Good vibrations, B-Wezzzz. We gave up a pitcher by the name of Timothy LeRoy, can you believe that? Says on my roster that he was a 2006 draft pick but I’ve NEVER heard of him!”
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
lol
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That seems like a lot for Dan Uggla.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 11, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
The approach i’m taking is that Sabean will undervalue Lewis, Frandsen and Garko in any trade because they are as good as gone. as a fan, I view those 3 as not even on the roster because BS and Bochy don’t like them, so it’s a sunken cost in a trade
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
VROOOM
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Getting concerned with SF dealing away too much pitching. The draft has not been replenishing as much either
Yeah I wouldnt want to do Clark. I really like him
Tease.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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It’s like when that character took that dude’s advice to be celibate for six months on Bones.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
My head is still spinning from the conjectured logic of Sabean choosing to re-sign Sanchez while ditching Garko.
One performed poorly in small sample size due to small sample size
The other performed poorly in small sample size due to injury which is a nagging concern
So… keep guy with a nagging concern.
Two injuries right?
Wasn’t it both his knee and his shoulder?
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Non-tender deadline
When do teams have to offer a contract or non-tender a player? If Johnson or Uggla is a Giant by ______, will Sabes hold onto Garko? I don’t really get the point of non-tendering Garko, couldn’t he be like an even worse defending Doumit-type utility player. Positional Flexibility!
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Tomorrow
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More importantly, where are your pants?
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I stole them
I got tired of looking at Howie naked.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for your opinion on that, by the way. I think that of the options you described, the second one is probably the best way for me to deal with it.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
OK...
For some reason HTS linked to this thread at the end of the Podsednik thread, and it really confused me.
I was promised lasagna.
Grant had been linking to his new threads from the bottoms of the recent epically large threads, so I just put it down there in case anybody was just keeping that tab open without checking the site the way I usually do.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
SI Winners and Losers
2. Giants: The worst-hitting team in baseball announced through continually cantankerous GM Brian Sabean that it didn’t have the funds to play for Holliday or Bay, which ought to be real encouraging news for Tim Lincecum, the freakish talent who could only manage 15 wins due to a lack of run support. They continue to wait in the unrealistic hope that power-hitting Dan Uggla will be non-tendered by the Marlins (he won’t be) and haven’t really seemed to figure out how to field an offense to match the pitching talent they’ve assembled. Even if they eventually get Uggla, they’ll have to figure out how to rework their defensive alignment to fit two second basemen (with Freddy Sanchez being the other).
He thought the D-backs were winners.
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Heyman sucks
Reminds of that slick haired guy (Paulie?) from the Sopranos
The worst-hitting team in baseball announced through continually cantankerous GM Brian Sabean that it didn’t have the funds to play for Holliday or Bay, which displeased my sponsor and friend, Scott Boras, who is handing me a hot lead wrapped in $100s under the table as I’m writing this.
Haha, I forgot Jon Heyman was Scott Boras’s boyfriend. It all makes sense now.
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Now I picture Heyman as Mink and Boras as The Dane from Miller’s Crossing.
“Jeezus, Sabes? Why would you say that? Jeeeeezus, we ain’t even been talking! Jeeeeezus!”
wait… wouldn’t that make Sabes the Smart one? He’s more like Leo.
Tom would be agent Ned, I guess… Mr. Inside-outsky like some goddamn bolshivik taking his orders from Yegg central.
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Brian Bocock
since he has to be “protected” on the 40man
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I think Sabes has to be Johnny Caspar. I can just picture him getting fed up in negotiations and saying he’s sick of getting the high hat.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Runnin' things.
It ain’t all gravy.
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LOL HEYMAN
He thought Santana deserved the Cy Young award in 08 because "he pitched in New York".
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Well, it’s a hard place to pitch!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t get how we can be the second biggest loser of Winter Meetings. We didn’t do anything and the Holliday/Bay announcement seriously came like a month ago.
And the Astros are one of the winners? WTF????
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They signed a lot of players!!! Bold!!! Leadership!!!
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Ed Wade= GM of the century!
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
If only that they had good players they needed to trade away…
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I know everyone wants Uggla and Johnson but instead how about Uggla and Cameron? I know the Giants are interested in both and it would be a great way to improve our offense
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
Well if they do get Uggla then Cameron suddenly makes more sense than Johnson. But actually Cameron and Johnson makes sense also.
If
Kelley Johnson’s non-tendered LOL F.Sanchez even harder.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:01 PM PST reply actions
Trade Hope
Ryan Garko & Eugenio Velez for Kelly Johnson-The Braves need a cheap stopgap 1B until Freeman is ready and Johnson is like a good Velez. I know it’ll never happen but I can dream.
jeeze
why not throw in Zito and Rowand while you are at it.
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ESPN Rumor Central
UPDATE: FoxSports.com is reporting today that progress may have been made Friday in trade negotiations between the Marlins and the Giants.
Could left-hander Jonathan Sanchez, a name long-attached to Florida’s interest, be part of a trade for Florida, and might that prompt the Giants to go out and look for his replacement?
Adding Sanchez could make Josh Johnson a little bit more available, and could have the same impact on Ricky Nolasco, who is also arbitration eligible.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
If the Giants trade Sanchez, then they will absolutely have to go out and look for his replacement.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
they might just go into next season without a 4th starter, you don’t know.
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Pucetas and Martinez 4 and 5, duh.
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Teehee, 69!
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yankee won the WS with 3 starters
Sabean thinks he can do the same as Giants’ top 3 pitchers are better!
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
chasm
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please, don't.
Uggla for Sanchez is almost as dumb as Cain 4 Fielder
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
It’s dumber
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Makes Cain for Fielder look smart
Srsly, Sanchez upside>>>>>>>>Uggla upside, and costs way less, and throws no-noes
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
And the Giants have other options instead of Uggla, but don’t have the pitching depth to make Sanchez expendable.
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not much depth there. One injury and you’re rolling with the Ramon Ortiz express.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Do we still have Matt Kinney?
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We’ll always have Matt Kinney.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Really, contracts considered?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Fielder is the better player. Fielder will cost more. Same age. Fielder is probably less likely to get injured, on account of not being a pitcher. Both signed for two years.
Whatever. I wouldn’t do it, but It’s close. I don’t see what’s so dumb about it.
I was promised lasagna.
I don’t see what’s so dumb about it.
I believe the answer to this depends on who replaces Cain in the rotation?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Dave Bush
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Just so I understand this
Are you saing a Fielder in the hand is worth a Cain in the Bush?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
No, but a Johnson in the Bush...
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Plus they don’t make an operation Fielder that will keep that guy from eating his way out of an early retirement.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Every year I think that he will turn into Moo Vaugn. He keeps surprising me.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
He’s only 26
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, man, the Mayor is gonna have a cow.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
I thought the Marlins already stated that they were not expecting anything like Bumgarner or Sanchez?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
The two year Scotty PODS deal will be announced sunday, immediately following the Uggla trade to dampen the blow. Don’t worry about it.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
The option will vest if Scotty PODS ends the year with a OBP below .300!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
That’s why I’m going with a 2 yr, that options guaranteed to vest.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, gotta be Cainer!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
not that Sabean’s not capable of supremely dumb crap, but “No you can’t have Bumgarner, but here, how about Jonathan Sanchez.” does not sound like his particular brand of dumb crap.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I feel like they wouldn’t really want Sanchez anyway. Isn’t he arb-eligible too?
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
good point
FLA wants to deal with as few arb cases as possible. Like they are allergic to them.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Or less than Barry Zito, Aaron Rowand, and Edgar FAILeria
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Could I eat a box of Cheez-its in 10 minutes? Could the Mariners move to Oklahoma City and become the Lightning? Could a beached whale smell like daffodils? I don’t know, but a lot of things could happen.
I’d settle for a couple of no-no’s this season from Tim & Matt.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
SHIT THAT'S FUCK
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Not seeing much fire behind this smoke.
I’m a lot more okay with trading Sanchez for a bat than most — if you think he doesn’t still have a lot of flameout potential, you’re kidding yourself, and having a whole rotation of above-average pitchers and a bad lineup is a really stupid allocation of resources if you ever want to make noise in the playoffs. Nothing’s easier to acquire in free agency, especially short-term, than a credible fourth or fifth starter. Trading an arm for a bat is absolutely something we should do.
But not this arm for this bat. Actually, even that swap isn’t outrageous in a vacuum… the key is, not this arm for this bat in this context, where the Marlins don’t have any real leverage. We shouldn’t have to put Dirty on the table here.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
FFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
Of course if they wanted to do Uggla and Johnson for Sanchez and Bumgarner I’d be on board.
I suppose technically the could, assuming they weren’t very big, were flight-capable, and weren’t in there long enough to suffocate.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Ricard Gere is a member of McCC?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Uggla in LF
The more I think about it – defensively – the more comfortable I am with it. Looking at the LF other teams run out there, he’d probably be slightly below average to average but not abysmal or horrifying. I can live with that to get his bat in our lineup.
What I don’t know is if he’ll lose almost all of his value in the position change. By WAR, how much will his value drop if he’s a LF instead of a 2B? 10 runs? One full win?
But, one thing that pretty much overrides every other consideration for me is the fact that Velez/Torrez will not start in LF for us. However, IF we sign Johnson to play 1B and trade for Uggla and put him in LF, I’d still have to pray that Velez/Torres wasn’t our starting RF.
Fuck, I hate rooting for this team sometimes.
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How much worse could he be than velez?
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Exactly!
Better way to sum up my thinking – he’s replacing Velez in both the lineup and the field – not any of our (extremely relatively) more valuable hitters in the IF (again, assuming we sign Johnson).
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Yeah
Uggla/Johnson would be a homeless man’s Holliday/Johnson. But it’d still make me happy
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also a reply fail!
That takes some skillz
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Yay! I have internet at my house now. I’m not sure I want Uggla unless he’s a salary dump for lesser prospects.
I would love to see the reaction if it was Dan Uggla for Brett Pill and/or Brock Bond.
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A few months ago when I predicted that, GRM said there was no chance of that happening. So you must be wrong!
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Still Could Not Happen
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
wilriv would flip out
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why he is not in contention to start in LF and Pill be the starting 1b is beyond my pay grade. Jax should be the backup catcher
The idea is to improve on last year’s offense.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Jpons is getting sassy.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
On the other hand
I’m sure he’s thrilled about Tony Pena Jr.
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A computer without internet is pointless
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Second time today: LOL YOUNG
My family had a computer like 3 years before we ever had an Internet connection.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Well yeah
but I mean in today’s world. I didn’t have internet until I was like 13. Lol wow yeah, that’s young. Just sayin.
I AM NOT SAYING
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And the first time you signed on, someone propositioned you for pics, amirite?
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I WAS JUST CURIOUS!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
My family didn’t have the internet until I was in High School. And once we did, it was slow slow we could play entire games of Solitaire while pages loaded.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
I remember when we first got dial up I put my friend’s home number in because I knew he had a modem too so I thought our computers could talk to each other that way.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Why didn’t I think of that!?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Same here.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I think my parents first got online in the late 80s through work. I first started getting online from home circa 1991. Which I remember because it was the fifth season of TNG, whee – the first thing I did on the Internet was read Star Trek Usenet groups.
/wonders how many of the young hooligans here don’t even know about Usenet.
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It's all about the torrents now, baby
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Or, actually, magnet links
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pfft
google mediafire+album name
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
whoah
never heard of that one. That’s pretty crazy.
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alternate options
blogspot, megaupload, rapidshare (for dire situations)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
So okay. What is tumblr?
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Idk. What the hell is Google Wave?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
idke!
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Same here.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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me too
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
we're thinking of using it at work
it sounds like a good platform for inter-departmental communication
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I saw a youtube video about that…looks like it would be useful for that
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by Speedforthewin on Dec 11, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
A mini blog
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Isn’t that a blogging tool?
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I hate rapidshare
but yeah, it works in a pinch.
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LOLD
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If the Internet didn’t exist when you were in high school, and you graduated at the age of 18, that would make you about 60.
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Well, arguably
But the first proto-Internet connection was made in 1969.
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I think the term Internet dates back to sometime in the 80s. Before that there was ARPAnet.
BBSes aren’t quite the same thing.
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Probably because only five people, all in academia, were using it.
I don’t think commercial access to the Internet was available at all until just about the end of the 80s.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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I used email in the late 80s (in college). Very, very few people were using it back then. You needed an equally nerdy correspondent.
When I was in high school desktop computers were things like apple IIe and the good old Commodore 64.
In college the programming language we learned was BASIC and some LOGO. Computer nerds took more exciting classes like FORTRAN and COBOL.
I took 6502 assembly
in junior high. I don’t think I really “got it” though.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
I remember a friend trying to load a program from cassette tape onto a Timex Sinclair from a Walkman and somehow causing a small blow-up in the battery compartment. Good times.
by non sequitur on Dec 11, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
I remember the days when 9600 BAUD was FAST.
/old man
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I had a 300 baud modem
connected to a C64. FidoNet!
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
The very thought of a person like that terrifies me. And I’m 24.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
As a 23 year old
I couldn’t agree more.
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Also 24 and in total agreement.
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+24
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
/raises hand
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
oh wait
I read that wrong. I thought it said “I wonder how many people on here ever had to use dial up”
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
me and dial up
go way back
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I bet Graham never did
isn’t he like 18?
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Alexander Graham Bell?
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CRACKALAKA
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17
But my parents are 50 unfortunately, so I was unlucky enough to experience it during the early years of my internet escapades.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
LOL YOUNG
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o_0
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
I did, actually.
I haven’t forgotten, don’t worry.
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Mike Fox is pretty young, I think Ramah is an 8th grader.
sfoakbay is the youngest regular poster, hes a freshman in high school.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Dammit, I feel old now.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if they’ve ever used wired Ethernet.
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they’ve probably only used their phones
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They are young enough to probably never seen a typewriter or a record player. I’m old enough to remember 8-track players.
"meh"
Why do people always assume kids have never seen a record player?
Of course we have because you keep showing us one.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I recently got myself one of those USB turntables. Supposed to rip your vinyl to MP3, but I just use it to play records.
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Why didnt you just buy a record player? Wouldnt that be cheaper?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
It's good to have the option to rip I suppose
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Well you could illegally download the songs for free
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
that’s what I would do personally. But I’m LOL young
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True
that’s why you don’t get caught.
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Thats why I always do it on a friends computer
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
I does my heart good to know there’s still people who know the true meaning of friendship.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Not anymore! The record companies have stopped suing individuals who make downloads.
Lethargy
It has me
WE WIN
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if you do that
you don’t get all the great pops, scratches, and static that made the LP experience so wondermous.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:39 AM PST up reply actions
One year during the first week of school – before we switched over to cd’s – we pulled out a record, and one of the 4 year olds was heard to gasp “Look at the BIG CD!!!!”
Theyre 4, they probably dont know what a I-Pod is either.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
you should see my 2 year old niece work an iphone.
She knows exactly what icons are games for her, and how to look at pictures and movies, especially of herself and her baby sister.
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I'm not sure why that sounds wrong
but it just does.
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it makes one feel old.
She’ll be amazed at how well her two yr old niece is able to handle her Google Brain Implant.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Man, I can’t wait for that. Google’s Human OS.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Plus ca change, plus ce la meme chose
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I’m 19 and I have owned a record player for three years, but just to be cool and ironic (not really I found a 500 lp record collection in the street containing virtually every classic)
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Dec 12, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
There was a football player at BC who would go dumpster diving with his granddad and says that’s how he got his record collection, too. Are you Jamie Silva?
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My dad used to have an 8-track player in his old Nova but I am too young to remember when they were actually used regularly.
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I have driven around listening to Janis Joplin on 8 track in a 66 Thunderbird.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
I own an 8-track player. It doesn’t work. But it’s a great paperweight.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Thay are alright, I prefer Atmosphere.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
lol
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I’m young and I just bought a lot of vinyl. In fact, I prefer record players to iPods, so.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
WEIRDO
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NO U R
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
HIPSTER SCUM
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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MUSIC SOUNDS BETTER ON VINYL, DAMMIT.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
NO U R
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 12, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
t0taly
liek whats a desktop d00d
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I’m afraid to ask, but how many people here actually learned to type on a type-writer?
/raises hand
"It's too late now."
and I
I knew the typing teacher, and when I walked into the classroom he told me to sit at one of the selectrics at the front of room instead of the rows and rows of Underwoods at the back D:
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:42 AM PST up reply actions
Not me, but when I write I do my best with the software I have to create that typewriter feeling. I want Cormac McCarthy’s manual typewriter; he’s finally donating it to charity or something.
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I didn’t learn to type on a typewriter but I used one quite a bit in Junior High. My family didn’t get a computer until I was in 8th grade so when I couldn’t get a ride to the library or go to a friends house I had to use the typewriter. At least it was electronic.
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I learned on a Brother Word Processor
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
wilriv?!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Dec 12, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I walked out of a typing class that used typewriters in junior year.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
Me. 105 wpm with 96%+ accuracy, baby. But that was a long time ago.
by non sequitur on Dec 11, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
I even knew
how to count tabs and columns, how many pica lines on a sheet, etc.
Such knowledge now wasted, but also forgotten. Like trig.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
Wait a minute. I think it was more like 95 wpm at my peak, not 105. Sometimes I exaggerate my typing skills to impress the ladies. Though this strategy has never been especially effective.
by non sequitur on Dec 12, 2009 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
1 inch = 6 pica = 72 points
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 12, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
It’s like a porn collection without any of the porn.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
O CONGRATULATIONS
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Dec 12, 2009 2:24 AM PST up reply actions
What is Garko’s contract? Since it’s obvious that Sabean won’t utilize him does he have any trade value?
Garko doesn’t have a contract.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants have probably been shopping him since October.
Or at least I hope they would have been.
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NO TRADE VALUE
DUE TO LACK OF TALENT BY PLAYER
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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I am walking on the edge of the sar-chasm here….
by AndOnTheDrums... on Dec 11, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Travis needs a year off.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
OT
Packing is a pain. Earlier this week, I packed books: 21 boxes. Now packing CDs, because I’m an old man who still owns physical media. I would say I wish it was over, but in that case we’d be in Florida already.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Norco’s and cold beer really help.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
I feel your pain. We had a bunch of books to move, too. I like physical media, too, but damned if I didn’t think about getting a Kindle for a second.
I also do this.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I do it too
DAMNIT
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my wife really starts ragging on me for reading too much when it’s moving time.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I have a lot more books than my wife
But I packed all of them, including hers, so she really has no grounds to complain.
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I have literally 500+ LPS and that shit’s heavy. Heavier than books. And I have lots of big texts too. I don’t care for CD’s, they scratch too easily. There’s no way around a move though, unless you want to give retards big bucks to fuck all of your shit up.
Call Sabes.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
My medical text-books are ridiculous. Robbins’ is 1200 pages. Harrison’s is almost 2000. Cecil’s is 1000+. And that’s just three books.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I know right!
Robbins:
“Take two asprin and call me in the morning” (in 1200 languages)
Harrison:
“Doc, it Hurts when I do this.”
“Don’t do that.” (in 1000 languages)
Cecil:
“Eat less and and exercise more” (1000 languages).
Now you owe me $90,000.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Fine!
/opens wallet
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
moving to FLA sounds painful, all in itself
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
At least he’ll still be able to call it soda.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Better think twice in south Florida.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
I don't even know where any of my CDs are
yeah yeah, LOL YOUNG. But seriously- like 35 GBs of music on my computer would just be way too many CDs
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Moving = lame
Especially when you don’t have help.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Jorge Cantu?
….may be coming available shortly
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
I’d rather the Giants be in first place than see that douche in the orange and black.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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? Me too
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
lol this
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OT:
But Hot Stove Season really reminds me of all the baseball lingo I hate: big bat, pop, professional hitter, etc.
I'm doing research on prospects for our dynasty draft
and I can say that I agree with you. That crap is really getting annoying.
“He doesn’t have the tools, but all the kid does is WIN! He’s a BASEBALL PLAYER”
Me: yeah, I’m not drafting him.
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I was listening to MLB on XM today while coming home from work and Rob Dibble was talking about Garrett Atkins and how he might get non-tendered. He was like “The kid has pop and plays a slick 3B”
I wanted to run my car off the road.
They just say shit
they have no idea if it’s true, but they say it like it is. And everyone thinks they’re good because they say it with such authority and THEY USED TO PLAY SO THEY KNOW EVERYTHING.
I really hate TV ANALysts.
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I don’t know if you’ve ever heard XM’s MLB coverage but their shows have really gone downhill. They have this guy ‘Jody Mac’ that works with Dibble and I swear he has the most annoying voice ever. It’s even worse than Ralph’s voice. He sounds like he’s eating a sandwich while talking with a head cold.
Jody Mac used to be a WFAN guy, I think.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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The only time I will ever know anything about sports talk radio is WFAN. I used to listen all the time when I was in middle school and living in Jersey. Then when I was in NYC for college I listened every now and then out of nostalgia.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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When I was 11 I loved Chris Russo because he seemed to be the only other person on the east coast who liked the post-1989, pre-1993 Giants!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I love his rants about the 02 WS
so cathartic to hear someone get worked up about my team.
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During that World Series, I was splitting my time between my room in Manhattan and my now-wife’s house in Connecticut. YES was simulcasting that show on tv in those days, and I came across it flipping around after Game 5. Mike Fransesca goaded Chris Russo into guaranteeing the Giants would win.
/sobs
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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God
everything was so awesome during the NLCS. I had just finally gotten my PS2 back from being fixed after like a month THE DAY kenny lofton put us in the WS. HOW COULD FATE RUIN THAT
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Nah don't have XM
but I believe it. I’ve gotten to the point where I really don’t need someone else to tell me about baseball on TV. I much prefer to come here or somewhere else on the internet. They just don’t have a clue what they’re talking about, and they’re annoying to boot.
I guess the radio’s a little different, since a lot of times you’re trapped in the car. But yeah.
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There are few TV/radio baseball analysts that I care for. Steve Stone is probably one of my favs. You don’t hear him much anymore.
Seriously
I was thinking about this the other day for football- there isn’t a single team on fox that’s any good. Then I thought about baseball…and other than Miller, every other national announcer is either “meh” or downright annoying.
Gus Johnson should just call every sporting event ever.
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And it's even worse for analysts.
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GUS JOHNSON
BATISTA WITH THE CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH
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Would be awesome
if you haven’t heard him calling Stokely’s catch from earlier this year, you need to. It’s so epic.
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Gus Johnson is totally boss. He makes the NCAA basketball tournament magical.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
He is what an announcer should be
he rises to the occasion in big moments. A huge part of what makes a sports moment memorable is the CALL that goes along with it
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Not better than Garko at first, not good enough to justify moving Pablo from third.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
he plays first
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
…………and?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
and I mis-read your reply
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
no problem.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
didja ever get that beachball fixed?
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Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
No. Of course, every time i bring it in to the Apple Store, it runs perfectly with no problems. They offered to take it and analyze it in depth or something, but they said it could take up to 10 days and I’m in the middle of a million things at the moment, so I’m going to let them have it after it’s done, if I can’t figure it out on my own. (We’re going to try testing something by running it off of an external hard drive, then re-install Snow Leopard again, etc etc)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
All macs except hers
I just got a new one and will not hear anyone say anything wrong about them. God damn this thing is brilliant. Literally. The screen is amazing.
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This one was amazing until like August. And the one I had before this lasted me six years. But this is disappointing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah, that's lame :(
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my dvd combo drive in my macbook pro (new)
stopped working after a couple of months. LIke SERIOUSLY dead. LIke you stick a CD in there and it just… sticks… you have to shake the thing to get it out again.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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No doubt it was your fault
MACS ARE PERFECT I CAN’T HEAR YOUUU
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:( man that sucks.
sorry to hear it.
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If you need to get a new hard drive
get carbon copy cloner, it will backup your current one to an external, then when you put the new one in you can use migration assistance to transfer your accounts and settings. It’s awesome. And FREE
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Sweet
thanks.
I’m also convinced that if I give it to them, they’ll keep it for 10 days and then be like “LOL IT’S THE HARD DRIVE” and I’ll be like, “YEAH I SAID THAT WHEN I CAME IN.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
but if the problem is software then that will get transferred as well
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
I’m only getting a new hard drive if the problem turns out to be the hard drive.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
TWSS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
True
but I’m 99.999999% sure it’s not, because I’ve had the same problem, except my hard drive just exploded instead of continuing to work.
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but the beachball thing is a very common symptom for mac users…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
No it isn't
everyone gets them from time to time, but not over and over again.
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YOU ARE WRONG
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Ok
typing it in caps doesn’t make you right.
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/hrumph, i thought it did
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Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
It's true that a lot of people get beach balls
but it’s not a super common event, like it doesn’t happen ALL THE TIME. If you’re constantly getting beachballs there’s something wrong. Usually they happen because you overloaded the CPU/memory by doing too much crap at once.
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lol people who still boot from hard drives
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Dec 12, 2009 2:38 AM PST up reply actions
you have an ssd or something?
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by bondslegend on Dec 12, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
X-25M REPRESENT
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Dec 14, 2009 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
that’s a good plan, remove the variables.
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve found the beachball issue to be related to the wifi connection most of the time. I usually disable wifi to get the beachball to stop. YMMV
F. the Lewis.
Beach ball still occurred on airplane w/ no wifi connection as well as at hotel w/ airport turned off.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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If I were to bet
I’d put 100 on the hard drive. But I could definitely be wrong.
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I’m guessing that’s probably going to be it. Not sure how I could test it on my own to make 100% sure.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah it's tough to diagnose
I’m guessing you’ve ran disk utility to check if it’s OK? If it says the drive is OK then it might be something else…
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Yeah, I did a few times.
I figure if we run it from the external hard drive, we can find out if it’s processor or not.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Good idea
if it is, you get a new computer right?
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Yeah, I got AppleCare, so they should give me a new one.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Whoa, AppleCare. Rolling in the benjamins I see.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
I think Apple Care only costs one Benjamin
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Depends on what you buy
for mine it would have been like over 300 i believe.
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I got the educational or whatever discount, so it ended up not being too much more than the list price in all.
Also, I didn’t actually, you know, really buy it myself…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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dang i gotta get in on that action
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SCHWEEEEET
applecare FTW. Though I’ve never actually got it on any of my stuff :O
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On my last three computers, the only time I ever needed AppleCare was with the current one, to replace the battery. Happily, that’s the only computer I had AppleCare for.
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Yeah
I’m living dangerously. I just hope that if something goes wrong I can fix it myself, and so far that’s been working.
I’m sure I’ll get in trouble with it one day.
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Pass
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Jonny Gomes
He is going to be available right? 28 years old, .879 ops if RF or LF. His Babip is average around 300. 20 HR in 281 AB isn’t too bad. I don’t really know about his defense though.
DH-style defender
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Suspect D, but I’d co-sign that one.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
ties don’t win ballgames
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
hey, 925?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
WTF!!!!!
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
No 707, No Good.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Awwww, I’m old.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
I know that
But I’m also turning 30 soon, so I’m at least getting old.
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I still remember when we got those PSA booklets in 2nd grade explaining to us that Oakland was going to get 510.
Man, I feel old now.
Well, the split was in 1991
And I would’ve been in the fifth grade then. So please don’t call yourself old!
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925 was in 1998
And check out what Wikipedia just taught me:
The number was formed by taking 415 and adding 510 which equals 925.
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Alhambra HS class of ’91!
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Nice!
Im Alhambra class of ’11!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
There’s a GOB/Steve Holt joke to be made here, but I was a hopeless virgin throughout high school. :)
I’m going to go down for Coach Bruder’s memorial next week.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Oh ya?
You run?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
I did
suffered a back problem senior year track season, which derailed my collegiate career.
I ran X-C and track all 4 years and was captain my senior year for X-C.
Now, I just try to do enough yoga so that I can ride a bike.
My advice? Don’t get old. :)
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Right, ill work on that. I was gonna run, but I went with Water Polo instead. My dad was a really good runner and wanted me to run though.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yup, where you go?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
In my HS years, I was in SoCal
Pasadena High School class of ’83
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Then how you know Alhambra was the Bulldogs?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
I lived in Martinez for about 2 years before I moved to Danville
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Nice!
Where in Martinez?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Correct
and the Martini, and the home of John Muir, and home of the now famous Martinez beavers
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Martinez beavers?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Ask Graham.
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Some beavers built a dam in the creek that runs right through downtown. It like a beaver damn in the middle of downtown Martinez
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
In the Virginia Hills area on Reliez Valley Rd
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Cool, I had a gyro from a Greek place by there for dinner tonight.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortunatley
I live in Martinez
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
Where am I?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
No, but that would suck
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
I remember being 415, then 510 and finally 925.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 12, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
I know that, and I’m 20
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
dude coached my little league baseball team at the local batting cages, wouldn’t mind seeing him in a giants uniform
by atxgiantsfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
has Dayton Moore ever made a move that actually looked good on paper?
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Drafting Hosmer, yesterday? I recall most people being pretty high on him around draft day.
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He was pretty bad last year and a lot of the shine has worn off.
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as always
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methinks timmeh would be passing something else
by atxgiantsfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
mmm prepackaged ice cream treats.
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Waffle cones are delicious
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Cinnamon waffle cones: the only thing better than waffle cones.
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all i can say is thank god the giants didn’t sign him
that was keeping me up at night
by panda revival on Dec 11, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Can you imagine what could go down in a Royals/Astros trade?
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
They would both be fighting to lose it
it could get epic.
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Hopefully they would find a way to include the Giants
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
DINGERZ!
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 11, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Barometer on F. Sanchez-Alderson Trade
One quick way to determine who won this trade – if Giants and Pirates wanted Uggla, who would get him if Giants offered F. Sanchez and Pirates offered Alderson. Maybe Alderson has already been offered to the Marlins for Uggla in the past and they didn’t want him. But it seems he might be enough now and they would hang up the phone in a second if the Giants wanted a straight up F. Sanchez-Uggla trade. If I were the Giants I would love that trade and even pay 1/2 F. Sanchez’ salary.
On the Kendall note, I guess Neyer will be blogging about it soon. I wonder what he thinks?
Nah
because they want pitching and not hitting.
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MAYBE THEY SHOULD JUST TRADE CAIN 4 FIELDER
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
OT--A's ballpark
that article in the paper today about Oakland proffering several sites for a new A’s ballpark was very refreshing to hear.
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via MLBTR:
Gammons said that Jason Bay “does not want to play in San Francisco, pure and simple,” in spite of the fact that the Giants would be willing to offer Bay the five-year contract that he is apparently seeking.
wat
yes, the ball moves around the bat here
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
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WELL THEN FUCK YOU OVERRATED PIECE OF SHIT
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 13 recs
yeah, i agree with this
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Gammons said that Jason Bay "does not want to play in San Francisco, pure and simple," which is all the better because the Giants weren’t going to offer him 5 years anyway but we’re just doing this now because we like it when Sabean gets all pissed off about us saying things that aren’t true about him teehee.
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The major upside to this is maybe they’re willing to spend some money?
I would’ve been okay with Bay on a 4/60.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
I seriously don’t think the Giants have made any sort of offers to Bay or Holliday nor are they interested in doing so.
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ugh
I hate Brian Sabean.
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I've thought for a while
That Sabean saying he’s not interested in Bay isn’t true. I think he really is. GMs say they’re not interested in people all the time when they are.
And I think Bay still has a good chance of ending up in SF. 5/70.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I’m disappointed they showed no interest in Holliday but I didn’t want Bay a month ago, I don’t want Bay now and I definitely don’t want Bay for 5 years and $70 million.
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by jponry on Dec 11, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This
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Didn't say it was good or bad
I’m just saying I think the Giants have a lot more interest in Bay than they’re letting on.
Bay could be gotten for 70 million, but I don’t think Holliday will go for less than 100.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I think they have about as much interest in Bay as they did in Sabathia last year.
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Cue Sabean media freakout in 3...2...
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You missed the point of this post
Dingerzzzzz gland
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I'd be ok w/ Bay
but not at 5/70. 4/48 I’d probably do, or maybe 3/40.
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yeah that's way too much.
Which is why I don’t mind not signing him.
What I don’t get is the apparent complete lack of interest in Holliday.
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Honestly, it seems to me like it’s completely predicated on the muffed play in the playoffs.
I saw an article that said he was a well below average defensive player the other day.
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HOW
How can people be so stupid?
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Because nobody ever watched the rockies while he was there
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The lack of interest in Holliday
Comes from the fact that Bay will sign a contract worth ~ 60-70 million.
Holliday will sign one worth 100+
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
so?
he’s worth it.
I mean come on, the dude has been worth an average of OVER 6 GODDAMN WAR PER YEAR over the last 4 years. It’s not outlandish to think he’d still be providing at least 3 WAR at the end of a 6 year contract.
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honestly
Johnson
Sanchez
Holliday
Panda
Bowker
Rowand
Posey
Rent
That lineup with our pitching staff would make us easy division favorites.
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negative, ghost rider
in the field, sure, but Bowker would more than make up for it w/; the bat
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Bowker is an average fielder at best in LF
And he’d be worse in RF.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
not really
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or rather, not much.
not nearly enough to make up the difference between his bat and Nate’s in any case.
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Yeah and according to that guy up thread that knows shit about baseball, he’s close to Holliday as well. So we don’t need Holliday if Nate plays Everyday.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Big Spender, huh?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Gotta spend money to make money
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I concur
Rec’d
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HOLLIDAY
JUST SIGN HIM. JUST DO IT.
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THIS
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YEAH
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loading up on ex-Pirates may not be a winning strategy, anyway
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
DING DING DINGGGGG
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ERZ!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Of course Jason Bay doesn't want to play in SF
Every player only wants to play in Boston, the holy temple of baseball.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Allow me to have a Yankee-fan moment and say, well fine then I don’t want him either. He should want to be a Giant and have the honor of playing for such a historic franchise.
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
wtf
does gammons know. And if I was Bay’s agent, I would fucking sue Gammons if this was true.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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He’s only covered them for like a gajillion years.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Looks like one of those PBS guys who tries to get you to make a donation in between shows
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Wait
what is his proof? All this sounds like to me is a guy from boston (Gammons) who thinks everything on the west coast sucks and that no one would ever want to leave BAHHHHSTON to go there.
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He hates puns
Couldn’t stand the prospect of Bay-by-the-Bay gags for the next five years.
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That’s funny. We don’t want you either
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of clubhouse leadership, Gammons said that Marco Scutaro’s ability to mentor Jose Iglesias was a factor in Boston signing the former Blue Jays shortstop. Another reason was that Scutaro had a clean bill of health, unlike Mark DeRosa, who Gammons said the Red Sox were “a little bit cautious” on signing due to his wrist problems last season.
Mark it down. We sign DeRosa and him and Sanchez spend half the year on the DL
heh...sigh...fuck...
GiantsGM I know you guys are still angry about Vlad. Can a 34 year old Mark Derosa, and an Uggla for J.Sanchez+Neal trade heal the wounds of 2004?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 11, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Uncool.
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yum
dungeness crab for dinner!
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The secret ingredient is dung!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
I’m too lazy to eat crab.
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So eat soft-shelled crab.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
A-fucking-men
so much work.
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It is
But it’s delicious and worth it.
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I’d rather work that hard for lobster.
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I enjoy it. I especially like it when it’s actually a whole crab and I have to separate the whole thing, brains and fat and weird looking guts and all.
Not being sarcastic either. It’s fun.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
For rending and dismembering I prefer Costco chicken.
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Mmmmm
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to each their own
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Fuck that
My subjective opinion is better than yours!!!!
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no mine!!
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You both are wrong.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
That does it, it’s four in the afternoon, I’m gonna eat cereal.
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I hope you eat it off the top of your head.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
I DONT GET IT IS THAT A SLUR MEET ME AT OYSTER POINT 1:45 AM
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Actually, I was just watching Futurama last night.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
And for not very much food either
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+1
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Congratulations. I’m going to McDonalds
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
WTF?
What’s with this shit? We have one of the best pitching stafffs in all of basball and arguably the most loyal and committed fanbases in all of sports. We have one of the nicest ballparks in the country and our franchise has a history of being a contender. If our park is seriously that intimidating to these fuckin punk ass, over rated, pieces of shit excuses for athletes then fuck them!
It's not even bad for RHH
Gammons didn’t say he didn’t want to come here because of the ballpark. It just sounds to me like Gammons is employing the ECMB
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ITS BECAUSE OF TEH GAY
Julian Tavarez!
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Yeah, but Massachusetts has gay marriage. It’s a real bind.
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Maybe he hates the g…ulls.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
There are a lot of them.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
irl lol
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A history of being a contender? The Giants have made 7 playoff appearances in the 41 seasons they’ve played in San Francisco. Zero in the last 6 seasons. Ugh.
Thing C
Well, they were one of the winningest teams in baseball from 1997-2004 or so.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Wang
Giants should sign him after we trade Dirty for Uggla.
Sabean’s working too hard on a PODS deal at the moment.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Too Bad the White Sox Signed JJ
cuz Sabean could have brought home a Johnson, a Putz and a Wang. He did bring home a Pena
I just hate hearing that shit
I can understand not wanting to play for the royals or pirates but come on…are they scared of it being cold in the summer?
If he’s worried about the ballpark, why is New York City all abuzz about the offer the Mets made Bay yesterday? That park will be worse for him than ATT. What the fuck does Peter Gammons know anyway? When was the last time he broke a trade or free agent signing? Check out MLB trade rumors. No signing has been broken by him ever.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
OT
Tiger Woods is taking a break from golf.
http://web.tigerwoods.com/news/article/200912117801012/news/
FREE BUSTER POSEY
SHOCKING
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He is taking a break from that as well.
by out machine on Dec 11, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
OH SNAP
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
win
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I’d like to see him try!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
IRL LOL
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Focusing on your family is the right thing to do. Interestingly enough, I am still able to work while I do so.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
This whole thing just makes me shake my head
what a dumbass. As long as people keep seeing guys like this get busted and thinking “well, glad it’s not me!”, we’ll keep hearing stories like this. It would be nice if people in that position (super rich, awesome job, hot wife, etc…) would realize that yes, they can indeed fuck it up.
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I’m taking a break from Tiger Woods
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Dec 11, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s really becoming as bad as the summer-long hourly Favre updates.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
but this is at least kind of newsworthy. The guy is one of the most famous people in the world, and he REALLY fucked up. I can see why people are interested in that. I don’t see any reason why anyone cares about Favre.
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I actually see it the other way around
Don’t get me wrong, I hated the Favre updates as much as the next guy. Yet, that’s at least sports-related. This is someone’s personal life, and there really is no place for it on ESPN, other than maybe one news story when it originated.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
The whole fascination with the personal lives of celebrities is pretty lame imho.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
IAWTC
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yes
Can we here more about the personal life of GRANT FRISBEE
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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My co-worker was at LAX a couple nights ago dropping his inlaws off at the airport and witnessed this . Click the Axl Rose video. He’s one of the people in the background.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not talking about ESPN strictly I guess
though they were the only ones freaking out about Favre I guess. so yeah.
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There was a time when all the news like this would make me feel really disillusioned about marriage and honesty and whatnot. Now… Eh. I’m practically used to it.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone who sets a famous person up as a role model gets what they deserve IMO
they’re not any better than the rest of us, they’re just good at (insert skill here).
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I want my imaginary son to grow up to be like Tim Lincecum.
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long haired hippy stoner?
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Yes.
I wonder if he dances the hippy stoner dance.
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Warms up with hacky sack.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Well, Jon + Kate broke up, so what else are we supposed to watch?
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meh. too wholesome. That New Jersey thing?
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hi-larious.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
You and a lot of people!
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What New Jersey thing?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Ah. Some reality thing?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah. A bunch of stupid 20-somethings in Jersey getting drunk and looking like complete asses.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Also, highly offensive to Italian-Americans,
who protest the rampant stereotyping and use of the word “guido”. Some people are so upset at the negative connotations that they have sent death threats.
/sigh
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well, they ARE complete d-bags
which is what makes the show so hilarious.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
and a waste of my time
but i have to admit, it’s slightly hilarious watching those douches fuck up their lives
I've never seen this show,
but it sounds like a rehash of jackass or the tom green show
I swear to god, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Dec 11, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
no
more like the real world, but totally full of mooks.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
like Real World
but up the douchebaggery by about 1000000000000
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
I love that show.
Drinking game – drink:
Every time you see a piece of Ed Hardy clothing
Any time anyone drops the f-bomb
Any time people are making out
Whenever someone fist pumps
Whenever someone calls themselves a Guido or Guidette.
You get smashed.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
For some serious LOL’s check out Seagal’s new show. Epic.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
my wife made me turn it off five minutes into the first episode. It bothered her to see him so old and fat.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
The ego is as just as bloated as the midsection.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
He looks like a zombie almost. Very bloated.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 12, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Still don’t really care.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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For now, Jack Nicklaus's records are safe.
Wilt Chamberlain’s, too.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Random sadness
The Flight of the Conchords tv show is no more.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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There will be no season 3.
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they just wanted to do something special
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 11, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, but at least they didn’t plan on dragging it on like the Simpsons. I think shows go a little stale after a few seasons. I hope Dexter ends after the next season.
SPOILER ABOUT THE OFFICE ALERT
But I thought this week’s episode spelled the end of the show, then the revelation made me think not. Kinda lame, since that show should probably end soon too. I love it, but I can see it going downhill quickly
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It’s still great, but it’s been going down hill since Jim and Pam got together. I think the marriage episode was when I realized, “damn, this show is just not the same as it once was”
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
marriages and childbirth are often clear signs that the writers have run out of ideas. They are often cheap ploys.
the shows are never the same after.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
The real problem is that you lose a great source of tension between main characters. You have two with a big issue and then you resolve it and have to find new issues that aren’t as rich. The same thing happened on Scrubs once Turk and Carla got married. Plus, every show has done married people issues. They’re all the same.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Romeo and Juliet was just a Tristan and Isolde ripoff.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Indeed. Also, Tristan and Isolde is the best love quadrangle in the history of literature.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
For sure
I thought they might end it before the baby came, but obviously not. I think it’s going to crash and burn after the birth episode.
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WHAT
THE
FUCK
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I'm not crying
I’ve just been cutting onions, I’m making a lasagna for one.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 11, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
I’m the pretty prince of parties
co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?
it’s business time!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
If that’s what you’re into!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Being lewd with two dudes with food
Well, that’s if Stu’s into it, too.
I swear to god, if i see another 'DOYERS' license plate, I'm gonna scream.
by Classy_Argonaut on Dec 11, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
It’s no wonder – they have to basically write a season of material and an album’s worth of music, shoot it and have it live up to the quality of the first two seasons, all on a TV schedule… it’s a fantastic amount of work.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Season 2 wasn’t as good as 1, but I still liked it a great deal.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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I thought the songs weren’t as good in season 2, but that the storylines were better thought out and funnier.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I didn’t like what I saw of Season 2, anyway.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Porkins potential?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Kinda like the old one amirite?
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WHEEEEEEEEEE
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by Natto on Dec 11, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 17 recs
im literally laughing out loud
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
that’s hilarious.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
ahahaha
BRILLIANT
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
So it’s a metaphor for the Giants’ 2010 season and beyond?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
What is the lady next to Uggla looking at and why is her hand reaching across him like that?
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is it bad that this is where my mind went immediately as well? Like literally… before I even noticed the terrified kid in the front.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 11, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
DID HE MAKE THE GRAB?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
lol
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Splendid
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
this is so totally awesome
literally LOLing
by GrooveGiant on Dec 11, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
This is great on so many levels
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Lol from Twitter:
mccoveychron: Source: Giants/Uggla talks heating up, “like when you urinate in your snow pants after being stuck on a chairlift for two hours.”
mccoveychron: Source: Giants/Uggla talks cooling down, “like minutes after you urinate in your snow pants after being stuck on a chairlift for two hours.”
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
/follows
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you haven't been??
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haha
GiantsGM :Gammons said that a FA does not want to play here, and I was nervous until I found it was Jason Bay and not Tony Pena Jr. backing out. whew!
OT
So should I be excited about Avatar? I can’t really decide.
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Eh.
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no
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
technology marketed as entertainment
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
....
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
is that Lars?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Dec 11, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
It’s his cousin Lars Lars.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Weeza in deep goofus dis time!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
meh
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
You like 3D?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
ive only seen Toy Story and it seemed a bit distracting
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently James Cameron has been working on it for like 7 years or something ridiculous like that.
by GrooveGiant on Dec 11, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avatar/
/just saying
hm
sounds better than I was thinking…
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
ya, it apparently has Titanic potential, in that everyone was pretty convinced that one was going to flop, too, until it actually came out.
Personally, I dunno… I feel like even if it actually is good, they’ve overpromoted it way too much. Whenever I see that many commercials/endorsements for a flick, I pretty much write it off as being bad without even waiting for the reviews.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 11, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
So if this deal goes down, and Ugglas go down easily, I depend on all of you to make quality puns about his name.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions
You insisting on “quality”?
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Okay
Amusing.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 11, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
“There were other offers, but I’m a Kansas City Royal now,” he said. " Dayton and the Royals called me the first day [of free agency]."—Kendall
Other offers included the Giants 3 year/15 million, but Kendall said fuck playin’ in SF.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 4:44 PM PST reply actions
TOT MOM
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Perception of the organization
maybe the perception is that it is incompetently run.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I posed this question to my buddy who has some insight into what players think, and this was his response:
It’s cold, ball doesn’t travel like it does in the other parks, and they see current sf players with shitty stats in a big ballpark.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Which explains why most of our hitters did better at home than on the road this year!
Well, some of them I can think of did, anyway. I don’t know if it’s a majority.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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I’m not sure the average major leaguer is going to be a sophisticated number cruncher… but still, they ought to be able to understand that shitty players = shitty stats and not blame the ballpark I suppose
In a way, it’s an example of the subtle damage that comes from signing marginal aging vets – the perception is that it’s not the suck, it’s the park.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think it’s also that guys don’t want to play with shitty players as teammates.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
But choco tacos and starlets and weed! And Cain!
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Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 11, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
mmmm
smoaky borbon
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 11, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Hitters park..
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
just shut up
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New rule of thumb
Anything that wilriv and GRM agree on is probably a bad idea.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
LETS TRADE BARRY BONDS OF THE 2010S GUYS ITS SUCH A GOOD IDEA
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OMG LINCECUM IS ON THE ROIDS????? I THOUGHT HE JUST SMOKED DRUGS!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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There is no reason for that. wil never disrespects anyone (at least that I’ve seen).
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Nah he's cool
it was meant more for the idea of trading Tim. He keeps saying that over and over and it’s scaring me. Our team’s GM IS Brian Sabean, after all.
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WE MUST STICK TOGETHER DURING THESE TRYING TIMES!
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Barry Bonds hit 73
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+1… and management likes to trumpet the notion that it’s tough to hit here because it helps keep the “Holliday or Bust!” crowd at bay… no pun intended.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Dec 11, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody wants to play for the Niners or Warriors either. Just great being a Bay Area sports fan.
He's not retired...THANK YOU!
Clements, Smith, Harris, Lewis disagree with you
Niners have no problem attracting FAs.
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
By and large, I think free agents in any sport will go where the money is. There are minor exceptions… sometimes guys really want to play in a certain region of the country or want a shot at a championship before they retire. But mostly, money talks and we’re living in an age of DUMB Bay Area GMs.
(I haven’t given up on McCloughan yet… dude gets one more year at least, but otherwise I don’t even think this is up for debate… unless you’re a Sharks fan, I guess).
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by Smoke on the Water on Dec 11, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
I actually think that hurts SF
as a potential place to play because the taxes in California are insanely high.
It may hurt SF as a place to live… but that’s why so many athletes make their offseason homes in places like Arizona and Florida. They can dodge at least some of those higher taxes that way at least.
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by Smoke on the Water on Dec 12, 2009 2:22 AM PST up reply actions
Nevada
and Washington St. (Timmy) too.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 7:44 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure they can’t dodge taxes that way. For work done in California (ie playing for the Giants), they’re going to owe California income taxes. I guess if they legally reside in some other state they can avoid taxes on other kinds of income (investments or whatever), but I should imagine for a MLB player the vast majority of their income is going to come from their paycheck.
I live in California and work for a company in Illinois – the taxes I pay are for California, not Illinois. Of course, when I work I’m not physically in Illinois, so maybe that changes things. There are also some places with commuter taxes.
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Have heard a player pays taxes based on where the game is being played. So say you are SS Elvis Andrus and you play for the Texas Rangers you then pay Texas taxes for 81 home games. Texas has no personal state income tax however you would pay California taxes for a 3 game set with the Angels in Anaheim. Anyone know differently?
Also a player is paid his salary only during the months April thru September. So if Andrus has a salary of $600k he would then get paid $100k for April, another $100k for May, another $100k for …… $0 for November etc
I have heard the first part about the taxes for where the game is played. Not sure how that works for off days. I’m also not sure about the second paragraph.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
I think the niners' problem goes beyond the GM
he’s done a decent job of bringing in Talent. Smith, Gore, Davis, Lawson (meh), Willis, Staley. His only terrible first rounder was Balmer, and there’s not enough evidence either way on him yet. Also, the guys taken after him weren’t exactly stellar.
The coaching is the problem. They need some sort of continuity on offense- as much as I don’t like Raye they should bring him back next year. With the team as currently constructed + a semi decent pass rusher and another OT they would be pretty good.
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by bondslegend on Dec 12, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Did you know that if you do a google search for “San Francisco Giants” that MCC is the first result?
We win!
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I am not getting that.
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I guess if you use strict filtering then MCC is #1. Which is funny, because you would think that explicit language would banish this site to the nether regions of the search results.
Using moderate filtering or no filtering, I see the official site #1 and MCC #2.
Thing C
doesn't work for me on any setting
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I was just joking btw.
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I figured
But he agreed with you!
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Also, I wonder why it appears I've never visited sfgiants.com
If you’ll notice, it’s in my bookmark bar!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Question for the broader McC:
Is there any particular reason that Adam LaRoche doesn’t attract as much interest from the McCoven as Nick Johnson? I know NJ is an OBP fiend, but LaRoche compensates with his slugging and they were worth an identical 2.4 WAR last year. LaRoche is also slightly younger, and lacking NJ’s injury history.
I’m not arguing in favor of one or the other, but is there some big reason (other than OBP) that I’m missing as to why NJ is so coveted and LaRoche so ignored?
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
grougthink
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Dec 11, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
I would welcome a LaRoche signing at this point. He’s more platoony than Johnson, and may want more yrs/$.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
True, he does have somewhat big splits
But he hits better against righties, so it’s not as big of a problem.
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I have nothing against LaRoche. I assumed that Johnson would be cheaper precisely because of his injury history. Also, .400 OBP, but as you say LaRoche gets much of that back with SLG. If LaRoche were the same price he might be preferred.
Adding, some people have argued against LaRoche on the grounds that he always starts slowly; and it is kind of weird. OPS+ by month, career:
Apr 60
May 88
Jun 92
Jul 116
Aug 124
Sep 116
I don’t know that I’m that worried about it, but there it is.
Atkins will play 1B til Jul
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
For me it's because I want OMGOBP
but LaRoche instead wouldn’t make me hurl myself down the stairs or anything.
Also, I have NJ on my dynasty team and want to root for my fake guys in real life, too.
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NJ has better rate stats
LaRoche usually just gets more PAs. Not sure how to weight injury risk.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned this yet.
LaRoche’s lefty. His power numbers are going to drop at Mays Field.
The same will happen with Johnson, but a higher proportion of his OPS/wOBA production results from OBP rather than SLG, so he is less affected.
The main reason for me is that I think you can get Johnson on a 1-year deal but not LaRoche, and I want good payroll and roster flexibility for the strong free agent market next offseason.
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It has me
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 6:12 PM PST reply actions
Im back from taking a nap, eating a Golden Oreo, and fighting my dog.
Giants do anything?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 6:26 PM PST reply actions
Clean your room
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YOURE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!!
I HATE YOU!!!
I WISH I HAD NEVER BEEN BORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
My parents dont let me out a lot. And they caught me drinking, which explains me being on here every Friday and Saturday night for the past 2 months.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
owch
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Ya.My sister never went partying or anything and did super good in school and went to Cal. Im not her however.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
WHY CANT YOU BE MORE LIKE YOUR SISTER
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Whatever
Im just tryin to get away from my parents as much as possible
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
No, but I was thinking Oregon might be nice.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
You could wander the highways and get an empty bus in Alaska.
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I read a book about someone that did that.
he died
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
that kid had some issues.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Well, to be fair, his guidebook didnt mention the potatoes were poisonous.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yeesh, apparently all potatoes can be poisonous. I thought that was an urban (rural?) legend.
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Does that include French Fries?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
eventually, yes.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
This doesn’t count the potato-based extrusion-formed frozen strips, does it?
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In a rare fit of saying something that wasn’t completely full of shit, John Maynard Keynes said, “In the long run, we’re all dead”
Water is deadly in sufficient quantity.
Hell, it’s easier to murder someone with water than with pringles.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Duck preferably
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
Really, that would be nice, and it probably wont cost much more than a UC, if at all.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
I have about 10 friends from high school at Oregon. Tons of Bay Area people there.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
Sick, its really beautiful up there too. Cold though.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
From what I’ve heard, it’s basically like the same kind of weather where I went (Humboldt St.) but a little bit colder.
Although a buddy of mine has been bitter all week on facebook because he has to walk to class in single-digit weather.
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heh heh Humboldt heh heh WEED timmy Dude
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f' sho
Parents just don’t understand.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Except
In this show Will doesnt want to move away from his parents, but they want a better life for him. He loves his mom very much and misses her. This is an incorrect comparison.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
glad to see that they teach a class in ancient television at the ol’ school.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Shows still on like every night. I know the theme song by heart, extended edition too.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
A+, man.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Fail
It’s a song
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
That show isn’t affiliated with the song though.
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FA or trade?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Thats pretty exciting
or I imagine it must be for Cody anyway.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 11, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
I guarantee the following
- The Giants never made any kind of offer to Jason Bay
- Jason Bay never said he wouldn’t play in San Francisco
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 6:45 PM PST reply actions
Id be willing to bet it was 100% ECMB
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I'm not so sure on the first one
I think the giants are more interested in Bay than they’ve been letting on, to be honest.
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I agree
In fact, I think that this could have been put out there by the Giants. Gives them something to take to the fans as an excuse for not pursuing the high dollar free agents.
Which is an incredibly stupid idea, but I think we can all agree they got some stupid.
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And avoid the network Sunday at 5 PM. They are replaying game 3 of the 2003 NLDS game vs the Marlins.
"meh"
WE’RE IN THIS THING!
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The parent’s just need to tell those kids to fuck off and deal with not watching their stupid shows.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
APOSTROPHE!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t use dirty catheters!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 14, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I'm in this bitch
like a 100 dolla bill, y’all
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
/shift-A
I’m not reading through a thousand comments, so can someone give me the condensed version of this thread?
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions
Lars saw howtheyscored naked.
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Well, I didn’t expect to hear that.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Well, who hasn’t?
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panic
rage
joke about a penis
This is like every thread
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
And crabs, don’t forget the crabs
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I will never forget. They…were…everywhere.
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by Iwantwinners on Dec 12, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I didn’t miss much, then.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
not true!
this is the essence of being a giants fan, especially around here.
It’s like you’ve lost a day in your life
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Well, content-wise, I didn’t miss much. But you pretty much are correct.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
Mikki Moore is a starter for this team. That about sums it up.
by Into the Void on Dec 11, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU
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by shanghaijim on Dec 12, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
he’s the worst. I can’t listen to him for a second.
So incredibly stupid.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I’m sure not.
They have plenty of idiots on there already though.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Ugh. Don't get me started on Peaches.
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eh. THe guys he was paired with are pretty unlistenable on their own too.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
not even close
DB in a landslide of lameitude.
The other night I had to go get Xmas tree lights and turned him on since Tony Bruno was preempted… he went on and on about how he was going to Indiana and a bunch of dillhole college bars there and the wonders of Bloomington. Even when he’s not saying something stupid about baseball he’s just irritating.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe he won’t be able to find his way back. I’ve always felt his schtick was more suited for the midwest.
I honestly believe the only reason he got the job is because his voice sounds like
Larry Kruerger’s
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 12, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I was never an enormous fan of Krueger… but I didn’t despise him. If I was still awake after a Giants night game, and Krueger was on afterwards I didn’t lunge for the off button on the radio like I do now when Bruce is on.
ditto
I didn’t go out of my way to listen to Krueger but he didn’t make me cringe.
And given my druthers I’d druther still have Krueger on the radio and let Felipe resign in high dudgeon.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 12, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve always felt his schtick was more suited to drunken frat boys
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 12, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Pika!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
I just got back from seeing Invictus. Pretty good movie, though it is really heavy on the slo-mo shots. Good music, awesome story, and a few good rugby moments.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I kinda expected a lot of slo mo
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I started getting bothered by it towards the end. That and the sound-mixing at the end isn’t very good. Still, most people probably won’t notice and it doesn’t really detract from the movie.
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BaseballProspectus.com
Worth the subscription fees?
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 11, 2009 9:47 PM PST reply actions
Depends on who is paying for it. I get it as a Christmas gift every year. I wouldn’t spend my own money on it, though.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
GUPPIES MIRITE
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
They're 6 months early
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by bondslegend on Dec 12, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
109 new posts FTW
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facepalm, mainly for the first part
There’s much work to be done, but with the departure of Bengie Molina and (apparently) Juan Uribe, the Giants have lost 36 home runs and a ton of positive influence in the clubhouse, particularly among the Latino guys
"meh"
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Bruce Jenkins: kind of a moron.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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“kind of”?
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I think the a is just in the wrong place there
it should be
Bruce Jenkins: a kind of moron.
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Rec
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by bondslegend on Dec 12, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
And a very special one at that.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 12, 2009 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Recently he was talking about his HOF ballot and he mentioned that Blyleven was close but not on it.
I WILL CUT YOU, BRUCE JENKINS. STOP BEING SO FUCKING STUPID.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
He is a member of the BBWAA?
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 12, 2009 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
Cantu again
kinda ticked me off that everyone is dissing Jorge Canut out of hand because he’s no better than Garko, but I’m comparing them statistically now, and Cantu is a year younger than Garko and has produced a lot more. Even though I would like to see Ishikawa given another chance, Cantu appears to be a good fit for the Giants if he does become available.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
Canut Cantu
and, if I recall, he was available last year and what a difference he could have made!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Dec 12, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
I will continue to dis Jorge Cantu. Thank god we did not trade Durty for him last year.
Hack, hack clank.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Garko’s OPS+ by year:
2006 (partial season): 114
2007: 119
2008: 101
2009: 103
Cantu:
2004 (partial season): 111
2005: 112
2006: 80
2007: 79
2008: 108
2009: 105
Cantu’s hit a little better the last two seasons, but but the difference is very small. Overall Garko has a small edge.
Defensively, Cantu’s been a little bit better at first base than Garko (he was awful at second and third), but it’s a bit of a small sample – he’s played 198 games at 1B, and only started 136 games there.
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