There is no way that the Giants can seriously be interested in Scott Podsednik
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 2:10 PM PST
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PrintIn the movie Contact, Jodie Foster is shot through a trans-dimensional wormhole to speak with an advanced civilization, and she finds out that she’s actually an alien and her dad was some sort of intergalactic racehorse-stud, seeding the galaxy with his superior alien genes. I can’t remember exactly how it went. I saw it at a party in college, and the sound was low. But one part I do remember was the first time she saw how beautiful the other galaxy was – her response was, "They should have sent a poet. They should have sent a poet." It was just too beautiful for words.
If the Giants actually sign Scott Podsednik, I’m just not sure what I can possibly write. But I can’t just say, "They should have sent a poet," because I’ll have to write something. There’s no way I can write something about a Podsednik acquisition and still feel adequate as a writer. It would be the Berlin Wall falling down for a foreign news correspondent; it would be the moment I’ve been training for throughout my career, and there’s no way I could live up to the pressure.
It would be an unreal acquisition. It’s the kind of deal that has failed Brian Sabean again and again and again. Podsednik:
- is a player in his mid-30s
- is coming off a season that was much better than the seasons that preceded it, which should be a red flag when trying to gauge his value
- plays a position with multiple internal options that might even be preferable if there wasn’t a huge salary difference, which there would be
- has limited value to an offense because of his complete lack of power
- has an on-base percentage that’s only above the league average when he’s hitting for a high batting average, which isn’t the case more often than not. That’s why he’d kicked around the waiver wire before last year’s surprising rebound
If the Giants got Podsednik – hell, if they’re even looking at the guy for anything more than a fourth outfielder job – it would be too hilarious and sad for words. They’ll need to send a poet. It would mean that Brian Sabean really, really, really believes that he doesn’t need to change his philosophies in order to build an offense.
Giants rank in runs scored
2005 – 15th out of 16 teams
2006 – 11th out of 16 teams
2007 – 15th out of 16 teams
2008 – 15th out of 16 teams
2009 – 13th out of 16 teams
It takes a magically stubborn man to look at that and say,
You know what, screw all of you, I’m right. I’ve just been unlucky. The key to building an offense is marginally talented, mid-30s players with speed, declining range, and limited on-base skills. The Dave Roberts debacle was an anomaly. Scott Podsednik will help us score runs. I’m right. I’ve acquired the right players year after year, but they’ve screwed me over. Not this time, bub. Podsednik will help us score runs.
I especially love the idea that if Podsednik came up through the Giants’ system, he never would have gotten a shot.
Sorry, Scott, but we’ve signed Tom Goodwin for several million more than you would make. You understand, I’m sure. But we just don’t know a thing about you. If you had some sort of history of success in the big leagues, sure, but you can’t build a history of success in the big leagues until you play, but we aren’t going to play you until you have a history of success in the big leagues. It’s a shame that there isn’t a way to interpret minor league numbers like we can with spring training stats, but that’s a project for the next millennium.
There’s no way that Sabean can honestly look at a starting outfield of Velez/Podsednik/Rowand – you know that’s what would start on opening day – and think, yeah, that’s comparable to the rest of the league. That’s an outfield that’s going to score more than the other teams. We’re moving up to the top ten in the NL, baby. There’s no way he can justify that outfield without sounding like a KNBR caller.
Well, if Velez hones his skills and performs better than he ever has in the upper minors, and if Podsednik repeats his career year at the age of 34, and if Rowand hits like he did in Philly, I mean, we’d be unstoppable, so the upside is off the charts.
Maybe it ‘s a bogus rumor. Maybe they’re looking at him on a one-year type deal to be a fourth/fifth outfielder. Maybe they’re using the rumor to get a better deal with Mike Cameron. Those maybes all make more sense than the actual rumor. So, even though I’ve been burned over and over again by the organizational philosophies of Brian Sabean, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. There is no way the Giants are really interested in Scott Podsednik. It would be the move of a man who thinks he can succeed by building an offense the same way that he built the last five bottom-feeders. It would be insane.
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I would throw rotton fruit and vegetables at Brian if he makes this deal.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions
Rotton, dude!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
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only with a British accent can you rhyme “anti-christ” with “anarchist”
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 10, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Not even then.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
Which British accent?
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by satyricrash on Dec 10, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
A rotten one.
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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I’m fine with him over Velez unless whatever we pay him means we can’t sign others
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Why would he play over Velez? Velez in left, Podsednik in center, and Rowand in right. Which of those three do you seriously think would sit for Schierholtz, Lewis, or Bowker?
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
Still high on Schierholtz?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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Over Velez or Podsednik? Absolutely. In general? No.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I thought you were saying Podsedni would be blocking Nate from being Great.
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I don’t really believe that whole “super small ball” thing that has been talked about by Baggs and whoever else. I’d believe that Podsednik would start in LF, Rowand in center, and Bowker or Nate would still have the first crack at RF
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
i'd put my money on this
Sabean knows that Velez/Torres isn’t a legit leadoff/lf option, he’s just been blowing smoke until he can get better options. We don’t like it, but what’s he gonna do, come out and say the team is fucked? no. he won’t. Unfortunately, he thinks Podsednik is the solution.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 10, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
It’s doubtful, at least in my mind, that Sabean would have Bowker OR Nate in right field. I’d bet on Jermaine Dye or someone else Sabean wrongly trusts to man RF.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Dye would be LOL-eriffic in RF at Mays Field
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
ideally, Bowker would play only in LF, but that would leave VROOM out of the lineup and the Brass can’t have that b/c speed is a requirement for a leadoff hitter.
You’re right that Sabes probably doesn’t think Nate or Bowker are everyday players and is looking for someone to play RF in their stead. I am no longer confident that Dye will be that guy b/c it seems that the team isn’t willing to sacrifice any defense to upgrade the offense.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
That would be a clusterfuck of OF's
Pods
N8
Fred
Bowker
Torres
Rowand
Velez
And the 3 best (Bowker, Nate, Lewis) will get a combined 0 AB’s
I’m like 80% sure that Lewis won’t be on the 40 man roster when the season starts
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
That's probably true
But I’m still in a fantasy world where we have him and Frandsen and Velez is gone
I’m 40% sure that Lewis won’t be on the 80 man roster when the season starts.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
I’m 120% sure he won’t be on the 0-man roster when the season starts.
(Did I do that right?)
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I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
just setting up a blockbuster trade
as soon as some team agrees to take Rownad, Torres, Velez, and Fred in a trade.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
LOLFRED
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
He is NOT a CF. If you sign he is a LF and leadoff guy. At the right terms it could work well. Think Pods leading off
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So, a shitty version of Fred Lewis leading off? Yes, let’s pay more money for that. What are we, the Astros now?
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Seriously, what the hell makes Podsednik even as good as Fred Lewis, let alone better?
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Great
He can not get on base right away and end the suspense.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
I know you like “table setters” but Podsednik is not the guy.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
every year
from the beginning of time to the end of time, the atoms that will, do and were Barry Bonds are greater than those of Scott Pods
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by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
nah
that doesn’t sounds like us.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 10, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
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But we were happy about Nick Johnson last night…
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by Johnny Drama on Dec 10, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, what the fuck?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions
That's what I've been thinking
Dave Roberts, but a year younger, and a worse hitter. And a worse defender.
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so, just pay him more money!
What’s the problem?
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Roberts, the 2 seasons before we signed him:
2005: .275 / .356 / .428, 2.1 WAR, -7.1 UZR
2006: .293 / .360 / .393, 3.4 WAR, 8.5 UZR
Podsednik:
2008: .253 / .322 / .333, -0.4 WAR, -3.3 UZR
2009: .304 / .353 / .412, 1.7 WAR, -1.4 UZR
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Roberts was playing in Petco.
Which made his much better hitting look somewhat comparable.
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He hit .300???
He must be good then. Sign ’em GINATS BRAZZ!
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
Well put
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
RED SIX IS STANDING BY, YOU ASSHOLE!!!
SIGN HIM!!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 2:35 PM PST reply actions
I lol’d
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Dec 10, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t believe he would really be interested in Podsednik. I mean, he makes utterly zero sense.
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I really don’t understand how so pissed some people are about Velez leading off, but then when there is a guy who comes along who can be a better option, people are also pissed?
Sure, Bochy might trot both Podsednik AND Velez out there in the same lineup, but lets wait and see about that. I still don’t think they’d both start at once.
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I don’t see how Pods is better. Also, he shall be vastly more expensive.
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How the heck is he a better option? He’s 34 years old this year and from 06-08 he hit a combined .252/.322/.353.
Even last year, when he was “good”, his OPS+ was barely higher than Velez’s.
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Plus wasn’t he caught stealing twice in that one game-playoff between Detroit and Minnesota? DNW DNW DNW
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Probably because that was a fluke season, and even in that fluke season, he wasn’t actually better than Aaron Rowand, who I think we all agree was pretty lousy this year.
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I’m not saying Lewis should or shouldn’t be on the team, but the fact RIGHT NOW is that Lewis likely WON’T BE ON THE TEAM. Forget about Lewis!
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And this is why we’re angry. We’d rather pay more for a older and worse player.
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Because 09 seems pretty flukish?
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You did see Bochy manage last year, right? Anyways, the people pissed off about it don’t want either starting since both are terrible and not even the best option that is already present on the team.
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Making management decisions based on what players tell you they’re comfortable with is pretty stupid.
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Meh, no. If Lewis doesn’t like batting leadoff and won’t do well because of it, don’t have him do it.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
Lewis's career line hitting leadoff
.275 / .349 / .440
Why, that’s virtually identical to his total career line.
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But he had a sad while he did it, so clearly it doesn’t count.
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equal WTFs for Lewis and Bochy on that incident.
If I were Bochy I would have told him to man up and set the motherfucking table.
I like Fred Lewis, but he’s not the kind of player who should have opinions on how he contributes to a major league team.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
This
Tell him he’s leading off or he’s not fucking playing. Who knows, maybe that’s what happened.
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I think a Lewis/Torres leadoff platoon would be neato
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Un-terrible idea, limited to the guys we already have.
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Say, that’s a capital notion.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
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Bochy’s comments were bullshit anyway.
Fred Lewis probably stated his preference to hit lower in the order. I highly doubt he just up and said he didn’t want to bat leadoff.
by NateEveryday on Dec 10, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Also
I’m betting that mostly came in May, when he was struggling mightily in general. Correlation, causation, etc.
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And he was likely taken out because he SAID HE DIDNT WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE. If he can change his attitude about it then thats one thing, if he is opposed to it then its another
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Why must there always be one?
One person who makes ridiculous arguments and refuses to move off of them? WHY?!?
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It also means that he was pretty a pretty friggin good leadoff hitter during all non-2009 years.
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That’s the problem. If the kid wants to play then he needs to shut up and play. Getting a lot of PAs is a bad thing now? This is more directed at Fred than you, Helmy
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t Lewis sit on the bench for basically June through September?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
Well, yeah. My point was that you shut up and play, and when you play you still keep it shut about where you are playing.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
because even though Velez is a pile of crap, Scott Podsednik is worse. It’s actually amazing.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Honestly neither one should be on a ML Roster
but if we are forced to have one then i’ll take the younger, cheaper, in house option.
I guess I don’t like the fact that both of those guys could get a significant amount of PAs
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
He really has no clue
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions
I think I've worked out Sabean's logic
Sabean once tried to sign Carlos Lee for an obscene amount of money. Scott Podsednik was once traded for Carlos Lee. Therefore, Scott Podsednik must be really fucking good.
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What’s it like, being in his mind?
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
He will own us in 2010 if he signs there, i mean, it has to happen
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
Was Bob “Walk-Off” Howry really that bad? He seemed like a league average reliever that simply appeared worse because of the quality performances of BW, Romo, and Affeldt.
He wasn’t bad.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
He got more crap than he deserved. But he deserved some crap.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Bob Howry
Not as bad as you’d think
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I'm assuming Whiteside will get injured
and Posey will prove himself for 5 games. Then Bochy will consider it a fluke and Posey will sit on the bench again.
A 5-game series against AZ?
And Posey has walkoff hits in all 5?
You’ve gotta admit that would be pretty dang flukey.
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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
We need to bring him back...
…especially if Lewis is gone. Someone needs to be The Problem™.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions
I appreciate Grant's if's in his fan post
but Sabean already expressed his interest. It doesn’t matter if he signs. Sabean already expressed his interest. He already revealed his preference.
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If this is true
Someone else is going to have to finish the Prospect List, because I’ll be quitting this team until Sabes is gone.
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t want to sound dramatic, but I would rather be stabbed in the throat than eat this crap
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Was there ever previous hot and heavy for Podz by Sabean?
He’s got a history of missing on a guy, then getting him a few years later. He seems to get fixated.
Like with Randy Winn
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Hideous, knive-involved...
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
So the only issue I have is
If we don’t sign someone like him, who hits leadoff? Velez? Yeeeesh.
I don’t get the big hubbub about HAVING TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO “LOOKS” LIKE A LEADOFF HITTER HIT LEADOFF.
Hit Rowand leadoff again. Hit Bowker leadoff. Hit ANYONE who can manage an OBP over .330 leadoff.
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I agree about the OBP, but I’ve always felt that having speed at the top is important, and that’s definitely something we are lacking right now.
plenty of speed
unfortunately it’s used to walk more quickly back to the dugout after making an out
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
So, our whole bench. And out of this group, I’d say only Torres is good base-stealer. The other ones have some speed, but don’t have the timing or can’t gauge what the pitcher’s going to throw.
I dunno, I just always thought that’s an issue with the team, especially when the park is built for gap-to-gap hitting.
Podsednik should be a bench player too.
Fast guys who can’t hit belong on the bench.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Not true
if a fast player can get on base even with a low BA he can be useful.
Everyone knows the Giants need either to score more runs or prevent more runs. The pitching improved dramatically in allowing fewer runs in 2009. Now the offense needs to be picked up. Having a couple of tablesetters and speed guys to race home from first on a Sandoval double or 3rd on a sacrifice fly will score additional runs.
Both Velez and Torres are not the everyday answer.
Podsednik’s had an above-average OBP once in the last four years.
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players don’t work that way.
If a guy has a really good year when he’s in his late 20’s that’s one thing. Nobody just suddenly gets better at 34 years old, though.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
HE FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
I know you're joking
but the fact that he is literally the ONLY player to ever do it just underscores how it never normally happens.
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Well there’s also the fact that Barry was already one of the best players in baseball in his age 33 season. From 1990 (when he was 25) until 2007 (when he was 42) his worst year he had a .924 OPS. For reference Sandoval put up a .943 this past season.
Yeah
he was pretty OK I guess.
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Even if you accept the idea of goo trajectory, here’s his OPS+ by season, 2005-present:
2005: 86
2006: 75
2007: 73
2008: 67
2009: 98
To me, that looks like a general decline punctuated by a dead cat bounce.
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That’s probably a better assessment of Podsednik’s career path than “good trajectory.”
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It’s what would happen if Nick Johnson were to be signed.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Nice.
Just make sure you tell everybody to duck.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
In 2009, the same season he had a flukey BABIP.
But even without the BABIP, if you have a player in his mid 30s who’s been declining for some time, but then suddenly his offensive numbers shoot up one year, do you really expect that to be repeated?
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And like I keep saying
EVEN LAST YEAR, he was worse than Rowand, Torres, AND Winn in terms of WAR.
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if a fast player can get on base even with a low BA he can be useful.
It is really a shame that Podsednik can’t.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
On this board being able to hit usually = a quality offensive player overall. Adam Dunn is a good hitter.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
do you grade all hitters the same? I do not. I believe in run scorers, run producers, defensive players, stars, HOFers. Pods is a tablesetter/run scorer we can use. Sandoval is a run producer.
He can set tables on the way back to the dugout.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Pablo eats the utencils as well!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
How often does one set their table? Once or twice a year? Otherwise just grab your damn fork yourself.
"It's too late now."
And this is why you evaluate offense incorrectly
When you get focused on cliched roles, you miss the point of hitters actually being good or bad.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
me likey some good base running on this club.
Funny thing how everyone has no problem with Torres career yet trashes Pod as a bum
Torres is cheap and acceptable as a backup.
Podsednik is going to be overpaid and if we sign him he’ll be a starter.
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Torres is a better player, and he’s practically free.
He’s a plus defender in CF, that makes him one of the ten best defensive outfielders in baseball. He’s just as good a baserunner, too. The jury’s obviously out on Torres’ offense but, Podsednik’s offense is a pretty low bar to get over.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
They both had flukey seasons in 2009...
…and Torres was worth basically the same WAR as Podsednik depsite having about a third as many PA.
I don’t think anyone here seriously regards Torres as anything more than a fourth outfielder. That having been said, there’s a good chance he’ll be more valuable in 2010 than Podsednik.
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Actually Pods’ career year was in ’03.
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He didn’t have a fluke year with regard to defense and base running. I will allow that his offense may have been a fluke, however, given that he is younger and has never gotten more than a handful of MLB at bats, there’s a chance that it isn’t a fluke. I’m dead certain that Pod’s offense last year was a fluke.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
"I will allow that his offense may have been a fluke"
Really? That’s like saying that Velez might not be the next Ichiro.
Torres never got a reall chance in the majors because he was really bad in the minors. For, like, 8 years in a row. His first, and only, good season was when he repeated AAA for the 5th time. His MLB numbers (in about 400 PA’s) are terrible.
I was promised lasagna.
Right, that was probably weaker sounding than I intended. Torres probably had a flukey year with regard to offense, but his defense and baserunning are for real.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I pretty much agree with this
But I still don’t know that Podsednik will be better than Torres next year. Which is sad.
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If we were talking about signing Podsednik to a minor league contract as a possible 4th outfielder, nobody would be complaining.
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I swear I would.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I would probably complain about it as well….heh
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
I said nobody would be complaining.
Don’t make me send groug over to give you the murder stare.
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I would
but I whined about Uribe getting the same sorta deal and that worked out OK.
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Hell yes I would be
It’s idiotic to pay someone externally for a role that one of like 9000000 other players, each with at least SOME degree of upside, could fill at least as well, if not better.
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So you’d say it was idiotic to sign Uribe and Torres to minor league contracts last year?
Anyway, I withdraw my statement. Clearly I have underestimated the complaining capacity of McCovey Chronicles. It will never happen again.
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Uribe was completely different and I think most people were scratching their heads at the Torres decision.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I remember a lot of people being angry about signing Uribe.
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I wasn’t.
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Me neither. I advocated signing him the year before and got chewed out.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I was “meh”.
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I was, too.
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I don’t remember my feelings, probably negative, but at least he filled a need. We have mediocre OF’s coming out of our ears. Adding Torres then or Pods now didn’t make a lot of sense.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I was incensed when we resigned Vizquel instead of signing someone like Uribe, so even if Uribe had sucked, it was still fairly defensible context.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I was pretty meh about it.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 10, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I was
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Uribe is a shortstop, and apparently our best options at short, non-Renteria division, were Burriss and Bocock. I was okay with that kind of depth for so little money. Especially considering it was expected he’d be a backup.
Podsednik, however, has a very similar and very replaceable skillset to many other players in our organization. And at least with a younger player, you have a greater opportunity for better production, especially over the long term. I’d take that over Podsednik any day.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Those were minor league deals
I didn’t hear that part about Podsednik.
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
My comment, to which you replied, said:
“If we were talking about signing Podsednik to a minor league contract as a possible 4th outfielder, nobody would be complaining.”
I, in turn, was replying to wilriv21’s comparison of Pods to Torres.
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by EliminateMe on Dec 11, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Whoops, my bad EM
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Already have it, number 2 in baserunning in 2009. That can only get better with Molina gone.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Well, Torres is a bum too. He’s just a cheap bum that we could dump at anytime.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. Diversity is not really that important. Nine Miguel Cabreras is better than Eight Miguel Cabreras + a decent traditional leadoff hitter.
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OMG!!!!
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Good idea
Build a wall so Podsednik cant get on to the field!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Kill two birds with one stone!
Or maybe just injure them.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe we can take the money we saved by not signing anyone good and use it to build a decoy stadium.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
And yet, he’d still hit like Cabrera #5 if you just put him in the lineup.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
BUT HE DOESNT FIT MY PRE-ARRANGED ROLES FOR HITTERZ!!
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This is incorrect. Pods is not a tablesetter. He does not get on base.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Are you kidding me with this?
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I didn’t define “being able to hit” as having a high BA.
But for the last fucking time Scott Podsednik does not get on base very well. In fact, I’d bet real money that he would post a similar OBP than a Velez/Torres platoon.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
that's the thing
It’s built for gap to gap hitting. Not gap to gap popups or groundouts or strikeouts.
I like fast guys too, and I’d rather have guys that can run (cf. Nate) than not. But none of them are very good at stealing 1B (and none of them as you say are much for stealing the other bases).
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Velez should not try to steal bases. He was 11/16 this past year, and that’s actually a little better than his career success rate. He may be fast, but he’s not quick. It takes him forever to get going.
He TWICE led the league in CS. That doesn’t inspire confidence in his ability to steal.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Podsednik, you mean, not Velez.
Though Velez can’t steal for crap, he just hasn’t have the opportunity.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Yes, I was talking about Velez, but Podsednik is also a bad base-stealer. He’s more prolific than Velez though: 30/43 last year (~70%).
Which is less useful than never stealing a base. The general threshold for base-stealing to be a plus is 75%, so he was close and it probably isn’t a significant difference. However, that means his base-stealing is production-neutral.
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Yes, I’m aware that this base-stealing activity was unproductive at best. Perhaps my tongue-in-cheek use of the word “prolific” failed to accurately convey that.
I wasn’t disputing what you were saying. I was just trying to point out, for the benefit of others, that his base-stealing is unproductive.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Figgins does other stuff, though.
Like get on base, and play defense, and play a position where he’s actually a decent hitter. .
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Not impugning him, merely noting a fact. It’ll be interesting to see (does Wakamatsu adhere to SABR conventions under Zduriencik?) if his steal attempts go down next year.
Lethargy
It has me
It’s also helpful to note that SB% (as well as SBA and SB) doesn’t account for all of the times he ran or all of the good that his speed can do the bases.
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Yes. I didn’t mention that but knew about it.
Like Fred Lewis, who had good EQBBR without many steals at all, except more.
Lethargy
It has me
Why does reality have to be so complicated?!
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This is correct – fast ≠ base stealer.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
Speed is nice but it’s not essential.
If you’re signing people like Podsednik or playing Velez every day just to get speed, UR DOIN IT RONG.
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if you're signing Pod or someone
to sit on the bench, play defense in late innings, and pinch run, you’re totally doing it right.
However, I think the limit on that kind of guy on a roster is one.
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
we have one
Torres. And he’s a pretty good one too.
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Speed is less important than competant baserunning
Rowand should absolutely lead off over Velez. Better OBP and not as dumb.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
Also, lesser chance of grounding out weakly with runners on base.
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but but....VROOOOOOMMM!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind Rowand in the leadoff spot again
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If we sign Nick Johnson
Would it be a good idea to hit him lead off-like the moneyball A’s did with Jeremy Giambi?
Yeah he's the pitcher from Toronto right?
He would be better in left than our current options!
by Johnny Drama on Dec 10, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Poor Can of Corn
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, what’s this about Can of Corn and Matt Holliday’s junk? This is getting scurrilous!
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Oh man, this post is bumming me out…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 2:43 PM PST reply actions
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Your last sentence perfectly sums it up, “It would be insane.” This explains all the bad offense over the last several years. Our front office is insane and we are doomed to watch it screw up the roster again. With the excellent pitching on this team, this should be a great time to be a Giants fan…
Again - how about trading Cain for Fielder
And then signing a guy like Sheets or Bedard to round out the rotation. Of course, if Bumgarner were ready this would be an easy move. I guess all this talk of the Giants great farm system will materialize in a few years. Of course, I hope Lincecum is still here. The other approach could be to make this trade and then go with a sure thing like Lackey. It stands to reason that if hitters demand more to come here to play then the pitchers would demand less. Thus, trade for Fielder who while he is more expensive than Cain is only a 2 year deal and thus less risky than Holliday.
Hey, I don’t necessarily believe hitters want more to play here, but I hear it so often I want someone to ask the person saying it to explain why pitchers won’t play for less if they come here.
by ErodCal on Dec 10, 2009 2:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
THIS IS THE BEST IDEA I'VE NEVER HEARD OF EVAR
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Yes!
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 10, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
I lol’d
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Dec 10, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY THEY ASSUME THAT THIS TRADE WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN? ANYONE? SOMEONE TELL ME THAT SOMEONE IN THE BREWERS FRONT OFFICE WAS ALL LIKE, “IF ONLY THE GIANTS OFFERED US CAIN FOR FIELDER WE’D MAKE THAT TRADE IN A SECOND”
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I READ IT IN A BOOK. IT IS A GOOD BOOK AND I FACT CHECKED IT MYSELF. THIS PARTICULAR PART WAS IN THE FOOT NOTES OR THE END NOTES I CANT REMEMBER YOU TRY FACT CHECKING A BOOK ALL BY YOURSELF BUT WITH THE HELP OF A TRAINED COMPUTER
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I think it is absurd to assume any trade would go down without ever hearing anything from EITHER side about if the trade is even possible or not
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That’s all rosterbation is, there’s nothing wrong with it in a general sense. The problem with Fielder for Cain, is that it has been suggested here over the last 2 years probably 100 times.
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Pitcher discount
Hey, I don’t necessarily believe hitters want more to play here, but I hear it so often I want someone to ask the person saying it to explain why pitchers won’t play for less if they come here.
Yeah, I don’t buy it either. It’s not like power hitters line up to sign with Colorado. I like your counterargument.
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PODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sabean LOVES him!
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 2:51 PM PST reply actions
That would be a hell of an infomercial
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Man, I'm disagreeing with everything you say today!
I love that movie.
For Your Consideration was a big let down, though.
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haha just compared to Waiting for Guffman and Best in Show, this one wasn’t quite as good. I had high hopes for it. And yes, For your Consideration was also a let down.
See, we can agree!
Also, pardon me for playing devils advocate with this Pods/Velez/Lewis stuff!
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
I’d probably rate them:
1) This Is Spinal Tap
2) A Mighty Wind
3) Best in Show
4) Waiting for Guffman
5) For Your Consideration
#2-#4 are largely interchangeable, though.
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ohh yeah see
This is Spinal Tap
Waiting for Guffman
Best in Show
Mighty Wind
For Your Consideration
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
+1
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
YOU EAT YOUR DEVILED EGGS!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
FYC sucked
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Wow signing Podsednick would make absolutely ZERO sense. We’ve got a load of LHH fourth outfielders why would we want another one? Especially as he’s worse than the ones we have. When we suggested that Velez was going to be the starting LF i thought that was as bad as it could get but somehow we’d considering signing someone who’s actually worse!
Velez CHONE projection: 716 OPS
Podsednick CHONE projection: 696 OPS
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and just for fun:
Winn CHONE 677 OPS
Rowand CHONE 725 OPS
Torres CHONE 707 OPS
Schierholtz CHONE 775 OPS
Lewis CHONE 742 OPS
Bowker CHONE 789 OPS
Podsedniks CHONE projection is the same as…wait for it… Renterias
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I guess that means he is good enough to start.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
So naturally the two best projected players, Nate and Bowker are going to split at bats while Velez starts.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
actually 3 best
Lewis is 3rd not Rowand.
To be fair… the Giants’ plan is to:
a) start 4th best hitter (projected in CF)
b) split LF with the 5th and 6th best hitters
c) split RF with the best and 2nd best hitters.
Throw away the third best hitter.
(all assuming no Pods)… Winn I just threw in there to demonstrate he might even be worse than Pods.
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I left out Rowand and Lewis
Rowand’s going to start no matter what, and for an unknown reason, Lewis is hated. I just meant the two with potential who they would actually play.
Besides, an OF of Lewis/Nate/Bowker? Blasphemy.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
This is the worst time of the year
When you have a barely functioning retard for a GM.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
by marcello on Dec 10, 2009 2:57 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
=5
GINATS WAY
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
That's insulting
Sabean isn’t that smart.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
What an asshole for taking a better job and advancing his career
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
more money. Higher profile
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
I’m just thinkin, Notre Dame… he’s going to do terrible the first year due to Weis’ recruiting, then prollyw ill get better, but Notre Dames a joke
So if he does well and they get better, it will no longer be a joke…
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I think it would be funny if we entered next season with Mark DeRosa and Scott Podsednik as our only additions. Really though, it would be funny. I wouldn’t even be that angry.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Giants Baseball
It’s Funny!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
PLAYS WITH LOL'S OF FIRE!
LMAO SPIRIT!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
I am so angry.
Really, I’m not even joking, I’m just pissed.
Remember how, like, you got a D on your report card and your Dad came home and he was so mad that he wouldn’t even raise his voice, he’d just inform you of your punishment in a sort of ominous whisper? That’s how I feel right now.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
(whispers) son, turn on the Giants game
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I never got a D on my report cards.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
One semester in high school, I managed to get 1 A, 1 B, 1 C, 1 D, and 1 F.
I didn’t take high school very seriously.
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I quit in 11th grade. Never looked back.
It had no effect on my academic career.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
The coveted cycle
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
I got a 2, 3, 4, and 5 on my AP tests. I wanted to take the Chinese AP test so I could get a 1, but that would have been another $80.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I got it in English in 5th grade.
We had one English assignment all trimester, which I turned in late. That was the entirety of the grade.
My parents and teacher didn’t like the “small sample size” argument.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Sorry, but Giants don't go anywhere with Johnson or Cameron - need Fielder or Holliday
I just don’t trust Johnson to play more than 100 games a year and figure he’d replicate Ryan Klesko with a lot more walks (and yes, I know walks are good), but not much else. Ande Cameron would be nice even if it meant moving Rowand to Left, but that isn’t much of an improvement on Rowand and Lewis. So I think the Giants need to go for it and Cain and Fielder are under club control for the same amount of time. So it is just the money difference. But if you pass on Johnson and Cameron the money is there. Fielder just adds so much more and if it doesn’t work out at least they try’d something gutsy. Now if you don’t think the Brewers would do it then that is a whole other issue. I wouldn’t do it if I were the Brewers.
oh, you're serious.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Sorry
Yes, you are.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 10, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
You
Are
Wrong
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
How do you figure that Cameron + Rowand is not that much better than Rowand + Lewis?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Fuck it
They should all wear red rubber noses and floppy shoes when they take the field next season.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:27 PM PST reply actions
The Giants can ressurect the bullpen car and the team can all pile out of it to start the game.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Bring Rusty back
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
That you FP?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Would rather listen to FP all day long for the entire offseason than sign PODS
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Where’s the trombone?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
That would be terrifying.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
VROOM VROOM!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
anybody kick the tires on that one?
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Dec 11, 2009 4:56 AM PST up reply actions
I would rather
watch Renteria try to play everyday and hit 2nd, watch F. Sanchez fall apart into tiny little pieces, watch Whiteside catch 4 days a week, watch Zito pitch Opening Day again, watch Rowand bat 5th all year long, you get the point..
Than sign Podsednik to any type of deal,
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions
by the way, I just learned how to properly spell Pods’ name, and I hate myself for it.
Fuck you Brian Sabean.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Stupidly stubborn Sabean
The thing that drives me the craziest about Sabean is his stubbornness. I’m convinced that as a former scout he’d rather ruin the team than to admit that advanced stats are important. The sad thing is that good scouting should be complementary to good analysis. It doesn’t even take advanced stats to know most of the guys he likes are garbage. It only takes about ten seconds of scanning each player on Baseball Reference. That should’ve been enough to alert him to Zito’s decline, Rowand’s outlier year, and many others…
Baseball-reference.com is for fancy pussy-boys who want to use STATS to make an argument! You want to use stats? Go fuck yourself! REAL baseball men look at grit ratings!
/Sabean
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I’d probably be more intimidated if I wasn’t so busy laughing at your goatee, mini-mullet and turtleneck…
Velez
Sanchez
Posednik
Sandoval
Rowand
Ishikawa
Renteria
Whiteside
It’s going to be a fun 2010!
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I might be willing to watch that team if the Giants make ticket prices equivalent to tickets for the Fresno Grizzlies. Maybe.
+1
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
For me it wouldn’t be about the money. It would be the 3 hours of my life completely wasted.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 10, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
It would be like watching 6 episodes of South Park. Hilarious yet pointless.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
at least you don’t come away from South Park pissed off, though.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 10, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
If you watch 6 episodes, there is a good chance you will be.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I look at that lineup and my first thought is “Poor Pablo!”
My second thought is “Poor us…”
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Yeah, if I were Timmy and the Giants signed PODS, there would be absolutely no way I’d consider a long term deal.
Just sayin.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Something just occurred to me
Never mind all the baseball-related reasons that the Giants should not sign Podsednik. Think about this: If the Giants sign him, we on McC will have to stop calling Rownad “Scott.”
No
Aaron = Scott
Scott = Pods
(or Podsy if you’re Bochy)
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Lord, he’ll probably just call him Posey. Then Gerald will never get to play.
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 10, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
I usually don’t listen to Ol’ Bolderskull, but I seem to recall hearing “Garky.”
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Forgot his fave, Geno!
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Forgot his fave, Geno!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
But what about his fav, Geno?
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he forgot him!
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I noticed this problem as well. So if Sabean signs Podsednik, he better trade Rowand, because you can’t have two Scotts on one team.
Fun fact
The ’07 Giants had 3 Scotts – McClain, Atchison and Munter.
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The 1995 Giants had 5 Marks.
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77. Not too bad for the mid 90s!
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That's 67-77, though
Strike year.
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Munter :-(
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whatever, just seems silly to even bother talking about Pods or Kouzmanoff
as if it would even matter. Even Johnson or Cameron. Just way too little for this team. Is the rule here to stay on point – so all you can do is crack jokes on Pods. And write the F-word or LOL a lot.
Much more fun to dream big and take a chance and fail They’re not winning in 2010 or 2011 anyways.
so you would rather delude yourself into a ridiculous trade than try to discuss the most reasonable route to success?
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by UnleashTheGore on Dec 10, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
FUCK YOU
LOL
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not opposed to something big, but the small changes could be enough. Don’t forget that the Dodgers are afraid to spend money this year and that we’d have a playoff rotation of Lincecum, Cain and Sanchez. We definitely need more offense, and we have some pretty big holes, but they can be filled decently with what’s out there…
This guy smells like Purple Row
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Like Jergens and despair?
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a much better tagline than “A Colorado Rockies Blog That Never Surrenders Purple Pinstripe Dreams.”
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Like fine wine and aspen trees.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
PURPLE PINSTRIPE DREAMS!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
OK
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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GET THE FUCK OUT LOLOLOL
No, seriously… your ideas suck and have no backbone to it. So quit insulting everyone’e intelligence.
/LOLCat
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
You know what would also help? Lewis for Pujols
But that aint gonna happen either. So its easier just to save some time from worrying about what you really want, but isnt going to happen, and just focus on reality.
Reality is there is a player with a .400 OBP out there in FA that plays a position of need for us. Hope for him.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
Dream big? Really?
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
This way he can kick the tires at the same time!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I hope they washed it thoroughly first
Shopping carts are notoriously filthy.
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that's flavor!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
I think it goes without saying that the kind of people who would use a shopping cart as a grill generally tolerate nothing less than the very highest standards of hygiene.
According to Bubbles?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Tomorrow, man. What kind of dope fiend be talking about tomorrow? Tomorrow ain’t shit. Today, Johnny, today.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I’m surprised by how many McCoven recognize references to a random Canadian tv show!
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The rest of us are making references to The Wire. I’m sure none of us know what you are talking about.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
hmm
Well, there’s a character in the show I’m thinking of called Bubbles, and I think Johnny Disaster otherwise reciprocated a reference to Trailer Park Boys I made earlier. Your quote sounded like something from Trailer Park Boys too, but oh well!
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Yes, someday I aspire to be as cool as Julian.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
The Bubbles I'm talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqg4aF1q6fk
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Huh.
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by rotorueter on Dec 10, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Julian, Bubbles and Ricky
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Enough heat will sterilize anything.
< insert TWSS joke here>
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 11, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Needs less efficiency.
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Am I the only one who thinks that is kinda cool?
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
I do too
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I cant help but not freak out about this.
If we sign him, ill freak out then, but its just too depressing to worry about something like this before it actually happens.
Its the same thing as getting super super pumped about ‘maybe the giants could sign Mark Teixera’ “We’re gonna get him. We’re gonna get him! We’re gonna get him!”
And then you are let down big time when it doesnt happen.
Its just not healthy. Wait until something happens before you get angry/excited.
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
more like SHWING! AMIRITE?
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
more like FAP
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Great.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
That’s funny. My neighbor has a Cadillac symbol on his Chevy Silverado. I think he too is from Jalisco
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, think of a less ridiculous trade - Wilson/Sanchez-Upton?
Or is it better to talk about Rowand for Bradley. How aobut Renteria for Burrell? Actually we win that one, which is really sad. But my point is either we discuss marginal free-agents or trading flops for flops? Seems like a waste of time. I know Pods isn’t better than Lewis but in Sabean’s mind he probably is. And I know Kouzmanoff might hit 20 homers (yay, replace the ones gone with Bengie), but might not walk 20 times. It just sucks I guess.
Your becoming hopeless and pessimistic. Progress.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
You’re discussing PODS and KOUZ.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:50 PM PST reply actions
The Press Conference for the PODS signing would be the absolute LOLest thing of all time. How could Sabe’s keep a straight face?
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 3:53 PM PST reply actions
Sabean: And so with great pleasure I introduce the Giants 2010 starting CF, Scott PodsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN YOUR FACES. But seriously, I would like to introduce the Giants 2010 starting CF, Jermaine Dye!!!!!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
But we’ve been down this road before and where did it get us?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Amazing memories that we will always cherish, despite the lack of a championship?
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
If only there was a way to collapse the space-time continuum between 2002 and 2009…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Seriously.
As soon as Bonds leaves, two aces and a good no.3…Pissed.
"…this thing which tells time."
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Dec 10, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Greatest CF of all time!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Greatest CF of all time!
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Is that a 71’? Got me a Willie Mays and a Willie McCovey from that set.
They’re beut’s.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
I guess it’s a 1967 Topps #236
http://www.checkoutmycards.com/Players/Baseball/Juan_Marichal/406382
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These pretzels are making me thirsty
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Depends when you were born.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Krukow wasn't a full-time announcer until the mid-90s, I think
So I hope not!
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Willie pics
must be rec’d when posted.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS!
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
You know what's really incredible about how much we've talked and freaked out during these winter meetings threads?
The Giants haven’t even made a single transaction yet.
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WTF SABEZ SNYDER WILL BE THE NEXT MATT PALMER
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Amidst all the chatter
I seem to have missed this. Which one?
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ah, okay.
I’m sure he’ll fullfill the proud tradition of Kim Batiste, Felix Escalona, and Luis Perdomo.
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remember when the A's took Ben Copeland, put him on the DL, paid for half of his salary
and gave him back to us when he came off the DL?
That was awesome.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
I see we lost Ben Snyder and Brian Horwitz, too.
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Someone from the Rule V I believe, check that thread.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
I know
Just to annoy you.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
I thought this post on Extra Baggs summed it up nicely:
Murk says:
December 9th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
None of this means anything, yet I can’t get enough. Keep it coming Baggs!
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Dec 10, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
The kind Grant attended.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
LOLOSER!!!!!!
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explains why they were watching a Jodie Foster movie! BURN!
(that makes no sense)
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'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
The kind Grant John Hinckley Jr. attended.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
If the idea is to replace the Velez / Torres platoon...
then it actually makes a bit of sense, as a reliable lead off hitter would be a good thing, and it hopefully wouldn’t keep them from still getting DeRosa or Johnson, depending on the length (one year) and amount (not much) he signs for. But if the idea is to have him and Velez in the lineup together most of the time, or they offer some ridiculous three year – twenty million deal, then all I can say is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
by crazedcrustacean on Dec 10, 2009 3:58 PM PST reply actions
SCOTT PODSEDNIK IS NOT A RELIABLE LEADOFF HITTER DAMMIT.
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that's OK
Mark DeRosa isn’t a first baseman
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Ok wait a second
There is no concrete evidence of an offer to Podsednik from the Giants. Just reports that he is being considered. No evidence as to how seriously. Perhaps he is being talked of as an alternative to a Velez/Torres platoon in the leadoff spot. Perhaps he is being talked of as a cheap 1 year acquisition. Perhaps Sabean had too much wine wednesday night and made idle speculations that the media took far too seriously. Wouldn’t be the first time.
I know man
Seriously. Imagine what this place would be like if Sergio Romo was DFA’d
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Three offers out.
Pods is suspected to be one, by someone who was at the meetings and had his nose in a cornucopia of unseemly places.
"…this thing which tells time."
If you are referring to the Baggs article, he says that more than one offer has been made, and he “believes” they went to DeRosa, Johnson, or Podsednik, but it can’t be confirmed.
There’s also the possibility of hushed up talks with a catcher, or a pitcher, or someone like LaRoche, or Cameron, or Dye, or…
Podsednik is one possibility on a list of unconfirmed offers. Hardly anything to freak out about.
I think the mere fact that Sabean has expressed documented interest in Pods is something to Freak out about.
"…this thing which tells time."
Expressing interest is also a way to find out whether or not he would be the right fit for the team.
In what way is he (or might he be) the right fit?
What is Sabean going to find out that would speak louder than the facts Grant laid out?
"…this thing which tells time."
Well...
I’m not saying he will find anything.
It’s just that, with the hyper media attention surrounding the meetings, Sabean (or anyone in the giants organization, funny how Sabean’s always the goat) could say “what about [some dude]?” If it’s overheard by anyone, it gets circulated until Baggs tweets “PODSEDNIK ON GNIATS RADAR SCREEEEN.”
Not saying that’s how it went. Just saying it could have been a name dropped in a conversation and gone no farther than that, for all we know.
So of all the names
why would Baggs have chosen those three. He’s a good writer, he’s not just going to make stuff up. From all the evidence he gathered, (maybe that included number of mentions, or number of confirmed contacts, or maybe further information that was told to him off the record) those three guys sounded like the most likely. That’s why he named them. He didn’t pull names out of a hat. There’ve been a dozen names connected to the Giants, and come to think of it these three are specifcally names that Sabean has not outright denied talking with like Holiday, Bay, or dampened expectations on like (insert catcher here) or Beltre.
"…this thing which tells time."
He’s one of the few names linked to the giants that Sabean hasn’t denied. There’s still the very likely possibility that offers have been extended to players not yet sniffed out by the media.
It just seems silly to freak out about the possibility, however remote, of an unremarkable signing. Podsednik will not save the giants, nor will he doom them.
nor will he doom them.
The logic behind the acquisition will doom the offense, just as it has for the past five seasons. That’s the reason for the freakout. Dave Roberts didn’t drag down the offense on his own, but an entire offense built by the guy who thought Roberts was a good idea wasn’t fun to watch.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Dave Roberts+Randy Winn ~ Eugenio Velez+Scott Posednik
Famous quote about the definition of insanity? Nearly, except the new players are even worse.
Lethargy
It has me
I can’t remember the last time Grant personally responded to so many replies. I’d stay out of his way.
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I don’t like you very much. I hope they bring back the Llama guy instead.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
He’s looking into my office right now, gyrating his hips, making devil/metal horns, and talking above his love for eggnog lattes. I don’t think you know what you’re wishing for.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
You and your boss are like when Captain Kirk split into good and evil halfs, and then it turned out the good part needed the evil part or else he sucked.
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by jcb9 on Dec 10, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
MCCOVEY CHRONICLE MODS OUT OF CONTROL
SOMEONE ALERT PR!!!!!
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LOL, brilliant!
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Mind and media work far too quickly together, far outpacing the subject they address.
You freak out over the potential of something, which is really nothing.
Take a walk, get some sleep. If the giants sign Podsednik, don’t worry about it until ST. It’s better to just hope he has another good year until then.
It’s the traditional ignorance-is-bliss debate. Ignorance is never the way to go.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
No...
It’s more of a glass of water thing. Because either way the knowledge is the same.
I don’t really consider what I’m doing stressful. I’m complaining.
Stressful: writing term papers, fighting with your wife, being behind on your bills. Complaining about your dumbass GM isn’t even in the same building.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I read that as “fighting term papers, writing bills, and being behind your wife.”
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
I read that as “fighting term papers, writing bills, and being behind your wife.”
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t really consider what I’m doing stressful. I’m complaining.
Stressful: writing term papers, fighting with your wife, being behind on your bills. Complaining about your dumbass GM isn’t even in the same building.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I read that as “fighting term papers, writing bills, and being behind your wife.”
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t really consider what I’m doing stressful. I’m complaining.
Stressful: writing term papers, fighting with your wife, being behind on your bills. Complaining about your dumbass GM isn’t even in the same building.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
TRIPLE POST WOOHHOO
Term papers blow
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
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Go easy on him, he is stressed out.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Go easy on him, he is stressed out.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder what Grant read this as?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I read that as “fighting term papers, writing bills, and being behind your wife.”
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
I read that as “fighting term papers, writing bills, and being behind your wife.”
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Oh.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I read that as “fighting term papers, writing bills, and being behind your wife.”
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t really consider what I’m doing stressful. I’m complaining.
Stressful: writing term papers, fighting with your wife, being behind on your bills. Complaining about your dumbass GM isn’t even in the same building.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Pitchers get Silver Sluggers and Gold Gloves too. Seems perfectly even to me. I guess your argument is that pitchers face a larger pool of competition for these boobs minor awards than hitters do, but so what? Hitters face a larger pool of competition for the MVP than pitchers do for the Cy.
Who says the Rookie of the Year is the MVP for rookies? Every year we hear the explicit argument that the MVP is not a Player of the Year award, that "valuable" doesn’t mean "best." So obviously voters approach the two awards differently. And since there’s no rookie award just for pitchers, there’s no reason to make them ineligible for this one.
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Fair enough. But when you’re nerdy enough to be on a Giants-themed site on December 10th, you find things to bitch about. That Podsednik is even an option to start is something that’s definitely newsworthy.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
For reals. I find this the most newsworthy Giants newswise in quite a while.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
The problem is that all signs point towards him not having another good season next year. I am sure this Podsednik crap won’t happen, but heck, it’s the off season and the Caribbean leagues aren’t on TV.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think he's right.
Just relax and try to enjoy it. Your back will get all dirty and you’ll definitely be sore for a while, and all your self respect will be destroyed, but really it’s gonna happen, so don’t create unnecessary anxiety for yourself.
"…this thing which tells time."
Ya. Shut up.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Ya, shut up!
/hides behind Grant
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
/hugs Grant’s leg
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
That’s not creepy at all.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 10, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Instead of kicking tires, can we kick Sabean to the curb? Please?
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 10, 2009 3:59 PM PST reply actions
NOt for 2 more years
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 4:02 PM PST reply actions
reply failure, epic one, FTW
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Something to share
So, a few hours ago I got back from the Winter Meetings. This morning, when I attended the Rule 5 draft, Sabean and Colletti sat next to each other and socialized the entire time. They were probably the chattiest two GMs I saw, and they were the only two execs from different teams that sat together during the entire event.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
FELLOWSHIP
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someone needs to make a photoshop of Sabean as Gimli
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Gollum.
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He’s a fool of a Took, goddamnit. How many times do I have to explain this to you people?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Ned did help us out with Pierre.
Sabes owes him one.Maybe that’s what this whole Podsednik thing is about.
"…this thing which tells time."
Hi there. I love you. SQUIRREL! Hi there.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
boom-chika-wow-wow
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brown chicken brown cow
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Thanks to roger
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Didn’t think you were into that, dude.
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im not your dude, pal
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NO
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
NEIN
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
NO (spanish)
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
NYET
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
No vest today?
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, there was a vest under the jacket. He must have been chilly.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
He's got to keep everything close to it.
Even Agent Ned
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
it looks like Sabean is reaching his arm around the back of Colletti’s chair :’)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Totally.
Not pictured: Sabean pretending to yawn and outstretching his arms.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
BTW That’s Frank Robinson on the far right.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Obviously!
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It looks like an old white guy. I need a better camera phone.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Definitely either Frank Robinson, Isaac Jaffe, or an old white guy.
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And who’s the young lady next to him? Please don’t tell me it’s Manny Ramirez.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Sabean giving his next instructions
to agent Ned
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He's not only the GM, he's also a client
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Secret decoder ring
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
should’ve sat next to Ed Wade, could’ve got schooled.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, they really are
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dynamic giants are dynamic
Just realized how nearly every position is in flux right now:
1b: Garko, Ishikawa, Johnson, Pablo?
2b: Sanchez, Uggla?
3b: Pablo, Beltre, DeRosa, Uggla, Kouz?
SS: Rent
C: Posey?
LF: Velez/Torres, Pods, DeRosa, Bowker, Rowand?
CF: Rowand, Cameron, Damon?
RF: Nate, Dye, Bowker, Rowand?
/sigh
F. the Lewis.
Hah. Renteria, the only sure thing in the lineup!
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
HE PLAYED HURT!!!!
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Giants FO has their shit together.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Posey @ SS
Garko @ C
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by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. And Yes.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Dec 10, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
actually
he superglued his fingers to his glasses.
and that’s not a shirt… it’ a tattoo
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Seriously, every picture oh him is in that shirt.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
SI’s Jon Heyman tweets that the Mets offered Bay four years and about $65MM.
My god. That’s Rowand money!
fucking fuck
Why can’t we just top that? Please?
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I wouldn’t top that, but I would think hard about matching it. He’s from BC. SF is a lot closer. Maybe he’d rather not be 3000 miles from home facing NY media pressure.
True. We should match offers for Bay and hope geography helps.
Adding a bat like Bay makes us infinitely more tolerable.
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bay area ties?
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, I usually just spend fives.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
win
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Bay doesn't clank
He actually made 0 errors last year.
He just has a small range, so he doesn’t get to many balls. He plays the ones he gets to quite well though.
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Ah, Rich Aurilia c. 2000-2001.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
He doesn't clank
But he does plop and thud and sludge… (if that makes sense).
BTW, small range is worse than not catching a small percentage of the balls you get to.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
not necessarily.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Obviously depends on HOW MANY balls you drop (TWSS)
but overall range is probably the best thing a fielder can have
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
If you put Torres in CF
It doesn’t matter who you have in RF or LF. Andres tries to catch everything anyway.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
You can save money on having an inner outfielder, too.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
Mets just offered Molina two years.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:12 PM PST reply actions
ISWYDT
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
That's virginity, Bitches!
I can’t remember exactly how it went. I saw it at a party in college, and the sound was low.
HOKYSMOKES IS BACK!!
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YAY
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I know it's completely "meh"
But thoughts on getting Washburn as a 5th starter? Just wondering what people think or if there are other suggestions on who we should bring in….
Doug Davis is out there too.
Those guys are all acceptable based on the cash.
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Washburn will get a two-year deal, I’d think, and this is a perfect year for one-year stopgaps. Pass.
by Grant Brisbee on Dec 10, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Mmm chicken tenders.
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So non-tendering a player is simply sending him to bed without any dinner?
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Florida plans to tender a contract to Uggla by Saturday’s midnight ET deadline. If the Marlins had to, they could find a way to fit him into the 2010 budget. However, even if it reached that point, look for the team to continue monitoring the trade market.
The general feeling is the Giants will end up being the team pulling the trigger on an Uggla trade.
hmmmmmmmmm
Every update sounds like the Marlins are getting more desperate to trade him, and the Giants are becoming more interested.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Props to Sabes for actually standing pat for once….now please just dont give up anything good for Uggla. The Marlins have little leverage.
Yup
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
/nods
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
You are forgetting about the cost of doing business
where in sabes world every trades demands a great prospect
To be fair, Sabean does have to negotiate with himself and phantom competition in addition to the other team’s GM.
Florida GM: Brian you know we have another offer out there for Kevin Frandsen and Pucetas so you’re going to need to give better prospects
Sabean: (forgetting that was him who made the offer) Son of a bitch! Ok Neal and Runzler!
And so on and so on until he trades MadBum
Sabean on Zito’s agent’s voice mail: we’re willing to offer you four years at $15 million per year.
The agent gets the voice message, but is in a bad cell phone spot for a couple of hours. Before he can call back to ask for maybe one more year at a similar yearly salary…
Sabean: Fine, you wanna play hardball? Seven years and we’ll double the money!
7/40
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
?
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Dec 10, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Repost!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIJeXQuAo-w
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rec'd
Best Luso-American singer since… well, I guess he’s it.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
as soon as the trigger is pulled on Uggla, Pods will be announced.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
That would be so evil
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I will swear if this happens
A lot
All over McC
and outside
On the bright side, I’d have more time for other stuff since I wouldn’t be following the Giants for an extended period of time (… yeah right)
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McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
AND I SWEAR
BY THE MOON AND THE STARS IN THE SKY
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Man, I forgot about that shitty song.
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For whatever reason, that song popped into my mind even though I haven’t heard it in years.
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I don’t even remember who sings it.
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Oh duh. Boyz II Men
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"haven’t heard it in years"
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I think they were called All 4 One or something like that.
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Wait, you’re right. There were many male R&B groups in the 90s.
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And they all sounded pretty much the same.
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Like the Giants OF.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Rowand, Lewis, Schierholtz, and Velez really don’t have distinctive singing voices.
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John Michael Montomery originally. All-4-One after that
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Dec 10, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
It's not like I play that song when I'm with my lady friend or anything
/runs away sobbing
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Last time I heard that song
I slow danced with a boy at the 8th grade Valentine’s Dance.
omg cooties
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
They’re called lice.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Podsednik
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Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
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That’s what kids get at the dances these days.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
HPV
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Kids get that at Rainbow Parties. They don’t go to these “dances” anymore.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
That song is cheesy and terrible
But there’s just something about it for like 5 seconds where I get mushy.
And then we change the song.
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GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Gross
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At first, this MLB Trade Rumors blurb about Stark’s latest article was funny:
Dan Uggla, Francisco Cordero, Luis Castillo, Lyle Overbay, Kerry Wood, Kyle Farnsworth, Gary Matthews Jr., Juan Pierre, Jose Guillen and Eric Byrnes were all being shopped this week.
Like, really? Teams who have players with awful contracts are trying to move those players? I don’t believe it!
And then I realized that Rowand wasn’t on the list, and that made me sad. Not funny. Sad.
Good soldiers are good soldiers
You don’t trade them. Besides, Rentarrhea was injured last year.
"…this thing which tells time."
Good Soldiers
I know its used as a joke around here anyway, but I always get an extra good laugh at that. You know who gets called “good soldier/marine” in Iraq? The 19 year old PFC you make pour diesel fuel in the giant pot o’ poop and then stir it for a half hour with a stick while it burns.
Thing A
Confirmed
PODS seeking two year deal!
Sabean only MLB GM besides Ed Wade that would consider.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 5:15 PM PST reply actions
I’m not gonna say I’ll stop following the Giants if Sabes gives Pods a 2 year deal.
But boy, I would think about it.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Having lived through multi-year deals for Neifi Perez, Mike Matheny, Bengie Molina, Michael Tucker, Armando Benitez, Mark Portugal, Edgardo Alfonzo…
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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I think this would top all of them.
Except Neifi. Oh god, Neifi.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
His 2002 was one of the worst seasons ever
.236 / .260 / .303
-44.4 Batting -12.3 Fielding. -3.1 WAR.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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…and then we gave him a 2-year motherfucking contract.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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This would top Neifi. In 2003, you could sort of make the case that the team needed a good-glove utility infielder. But this team already has FOUR lefty corner outfielders who are about as good as Podsednik.
oh god
is Podsednik really a lefty? I didn’t even realize.
if we’re going to sign an OF, it should at least be one who can hit LHP well.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
and oh god
He’s a worse hitter against LHP in his career.
He is completely, utterly pointless.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
It’s not TOO bad of a split. Which is more a commentary on the fact that he sucks generally than his being good against lefties.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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It is pretty remarkable, isn’t it?
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
I just can’t think of a single way in which signing Podsednik makes sense.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I can honestly say that I don’t remember a single person who made that argument at the time.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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That’s because McC hadn’t been invented yet. Now you can find people making multiple fanposts about any dumbass idea one can imagine.
There was alt.sports.baseball.sf-giants, though. They were braying of Sabean Blood.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Different demographic, I imagine.
Seriously, though, that team started Durham, Aurilia, and Alfonzo at the infield positions. Aurilia was coming off a terrible year and was never a particularly good shortstop. Alfonzo was a little injury-prone. Durham was 31 and would soon become injury prone.
It was a horrible decision, yes, but I can sort of see the logic in it.
PODS is a major-leauge talent
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splelelling faleyour
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
The White Sox had Scott Podsednik arond last year, but Cowley says they haven’t offered him the two-year deal he wants. The Royals and Tigers are also unwilling to give Podsednik a second year at this point.
You gotta do something with that money we just freed up from Dave Roberts contract running out
Enter Brain Sabean…
Duh duh duh!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
You had me at “In the movie Contact…” Made me picture Jodie Foster encountering Brian Sabean at the other end of the universe, both looking equally confused. Alternatively: “I took this form because I wanted to aggrieve you.”
FUCK SPACE, LET'S DRINK!!
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
PODS will drive a man to do that sort of thing. With regularity.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
SPACE FUCK! LET'S LEVITATE!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
SPACE FUCK! LET'S GLOBULATE!
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
I've gotta admit
At first I thought it was more funny than anything serious, PODS name connected to Sabean, but now, it’s too real to be disinformation.
I sincerely hope I’m wrong about this one, until tomorrow…
Sabean, you sir, have truly blown my mind.
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by cain1rstballothof on Dec 10, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
Sabean, you can do stupid things!
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Dec 10, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
On topic LOL
rec’d
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
IT STINKS
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
Yes. yes it does.
( recced)
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Dec 11, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
http://nintendo8.com/game/593/major_league_baseball/
Awesome!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
You use z and x to do that
then control to change from IF,OF,C, and P
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“Booooooo!”
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by satyricrash on Dec 10, 2009 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
In other news
Five more days and I’m unemployed!
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joy
The move is coming up soon, yeah?
I start my new job as a trainee swim instructor Saturday morning. Someone will be compensating me to impart wisdom on children. You should all fear for the youth of America.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Baron: “LOL BREATHING!!”
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
SWIM TO ME OR YOU WILL DROWN
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
That’s what I tell all of my patients when they are non-compliant.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Obama snubbed the King of Norway today.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
It’s just as well. I poisoned the lutefisk
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 10, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
this just in
no one noticed
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
OT:
Boy, The Lovely Bones is getting canned by critics.
Does anybody else have a hard time believing in Morgan Freeman as Nelson Mandela?
The Princess and the Frog is getting what I would call surprisingly good reviews.
Anybody seeing any of these?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
Hard to see through the tears.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
Guess which one I’ll be watching!
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Your obsession with Morgan Freeman is borderline unhealthy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
His voice is Jon Milleresque!
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I need to see Invictus.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Yea i wanna too
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Who else are you gonna cast as Mandela? I mean, Freeman has all those years in the joint in Shawshank to draw upon.
Malcolm X’s nickname.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Plus, apparently Mandela said a long time ago he wanted Morgan Freeman to play him, if ever a movie came up. (Must have watched the Electric Company.)
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
I was not aware of this.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
it's got 100% on RT
but only 5 reviews so far.
I refuse to believe it’s any good.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I also refuse to believe it’s any good. So redneck Americans go out to a new frontier and kill blue-skinned Native Americans by using technology?
Yawn.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
And dinosaurs. They also have robots.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
I just don’t care about Avatar. It looks loud and overblown. zzzzz
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
I am amused by this.
Now, I love some loud and overblown movies, but this one doesn’t appeal to me beyond its loudness and overblowness. I need a reason to go to the theatre for this, and I haven’t uncovered a one.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Dec 10, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
glad to know
I’m not the only one…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Dec 10, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
First negative review!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously?
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I mean, it looks alright, but not Oscar-worthy.
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At an early critics screening, it got extremely positive buzz as a golden globe contender for best picture.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
I read the script while I was in high school. And you’re god damned right I’m seeing it. Terminator 2 and Aliens are two of my favorite movies. Sure, Titanic sucked, but hell with that. This has robots, dinosaur things and machine guns.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
robots, dinosaur things and machine guns
What more do you need?
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Of course the Dinosaucers had all three in one.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
I still find myself humming the Dinosaucers theme song from time to time. No idea why it had such an effect on me.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
No idea why it had such an effect on me.
Sheer awesomeness.
Also, if you have the ability to create a melody around the word “Dinosaucers”, I think it will inevitably be catchy.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
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Does anyone else actually remember these toys?
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Of course.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
The dinosaur transformers of course being the peak of all things awesome.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
BEAST WARS TRANSFORMERS ARE BEST
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
WTF DOOD G1 FOREVER
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Hell yeah
I had the cartoons on VHS and everything. Youngstar, Rasp, the Rulons, brainboxes…Dino-Riders was the sh!t.
Zincecaingarnerchez (Zins-ě-keyn-gahrnər-chez)
1. A five-headed monster that turns grown men's legs into jelly.
Looks like this movie is all hype machine. I want to see it, but i strongly believe it will be no where near as good as they are trying to hype it up. I may just wait till it hits DVD. Not a must see in the theatre at all.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I really want to see it in 3D, which pretty much requires the theatre.
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You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
OT: 3d movies
To date of the new 3d i have seen Coraline, and Toy Story/Toy Story 2 and I think one or two others and I am really not too impressed by it. Nothing seems to jump off the screen, its more of the depth in the screen as it looks like you are looking down a hallway or something.
What do the rest of you think?
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I actually prefer 3D effects where the depth is rendered into the distance and not toward my face.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
I am not knocking the tech, I am just not sure its worth an extra $3 a person
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
I heard it really depends on the movie, and that Avatar was pretty much designed with 3D technology in mind from the start.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Sounds like your soul died a while ago. I suspect Pod People.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
The previews don't even tell you what the movie is about
It looks like a Michael Bay movie only more colorful.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Michael Bay /= James Cameron
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
True
Anyways, I just watched this trailer, and I must say I’m actually a bit interested now. Every trailer I’ve seen on TV has been garbage, they all made it look like a generic Michael Bay film.
That said, it is a sort of generic story. Guy infiltrates society, falls in love with a woman of the society (I’m guessing here, but that part isn’t necessary), realizes his side is the bad side and helps the people he betrayed. I’m guessing she dies, but the society is saved.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
James Cameron does movies like an engineer. It’s all construction and working parts. It’s his greatest strength and his greatest weakness. Yes, I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
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Yeah, Piranha 2 was like looking at a blueprint for crap.
Zing!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
I blame the Italians.
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Look given the current geopolitical climate, all European countries should have a seat at the table. Except those fucking Ities, I hate them Italian bastards, know what I mean.
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I guess this makes some sense.
I basically really like the guy because of the following reasons:
1. While the movies are usually pretty good, the movies are almost always fun.
2. His repeated use of strong female protagonists who are attractive in a “normal” way. No muscle-headed lesbians, but no blow-up-doll-with-a-gun types.
3. He manages to utilize special effects in epic and groundbreaking ways, without it being fake or gratuitous.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
I will agree with your points about his previous movie.
Although I have a feeling that with avatar you could argue the special effects may be a bit gratuitous.
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I suppose it could be said that the whole point of Avatar is to further special effects; I think he’s stated his goal is to transform motion capture as a filmmaking technology. It’s like a giant R&D experiment!
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I guess, but in that regard, Melies’ Trip to the Moon could be considered the same thing.
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And Star Wars.
You gonna start ragging on Star Wars now?
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My main problem with him
Is that, for the last 15 years or so, I’ve found his characters uninteresting, his plots predictable, and his films generally lacking in re-play value. Also, if Avatar is half as preachy as the trailer, I don’t think I could stomach it.
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I’m pretty much in agreement with you on this. He has a great box of ideas and techniques and they work really well. He very rarely reaches for anything outside of that box and that’s why Aliens was so different from its predecessor, but was still an awesome movie.
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frankly I just can't watch the previews/commercials with a straight face.
"…this thing which tells time."
Definitely want to see Invictus. That was some game and some time period, and I’ve always been interested in South Africa.
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my South African friends
couldn’t stop laughing at the accents in the preview.
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This happens from time to time. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was sort of laughed off in mainland China because the two main stars were not Mandarin speakers. Personally, I think people should just get over stuff like this and judge the film on it’s really merits, like how many boobs are in it.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Dec 10, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
It was a lot better than listening to the Cantonese dub.
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Human boobs?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Well, it could be like that scene in Total Recall. The line is classic, “Makes me wish I had a third hand!” Doubly awesome that he really did have a third hand, or his second one was fake and the third one being an alien/mutant thing. Awesomeness all around.
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I haven’t seen Total Recall.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
Blood, beasts and breasts
The Joe-Bob Briggs school of movie criticism.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 10, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
I met him at a 24 hour horror marathon in 2001—-one of the coolest and most approachable “celebrities” I’ve ever met.
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Definitely seeing The Princess and the Frog, return to hand drawn animation with stories that will bring a return to the late 80s early 90s movies.
I think Morgan Freeman makes a great Mandela.
Not heard anything about Lovely Bones
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I wanna see The Princess and the Frog, but that’s about it.
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 10, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Everytime I see an ad for Avatar
I immediately think of Fern Gully. In fact, I’m pretty sure it is Fern Gully just with renovated graphics and no Robin Williams
Robin Williams was in Ferngully?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
the bat. he rapped.
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Oh
Rapped.
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Fern Gully is one of my all-time faves
great childhood memories of that one
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One of my teachers worked on Fern Gully.
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Wow that's pretty awesome
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
An Engineer at my job is South African and he is super hyped about the movie. He lived there when the movie took place and told me a great story about it. He is very proud of their achievement and what it meant to his country.
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I’ll be seeing Invictus. Princes and the Frog is a maybe. The other one is a no.
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I’d like to see Invictus. Haven’t heard much about TLB, but i’ll see anything Peter Jackson’s involved with. Also, the wife is a huge Disney fan, but thinks any “princess” movies past the originals are sacrilege.
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I think we may have forgotten to look at the other hand
If this keeps Brain Sabean from giving Dye 3/21, then I am all for it. With Sabean, it is all about the lesser of two evils.
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Dye will sign at a discount price to be with his old friend Pods. You can never have too many crappy outfielders.
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Hometown discount
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That would be clanktastic! I can’t wait.
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Sabean is concerned mainly with weevils.
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unbelievable!
we went into the winter meetings thinking johnson and/or uggla, and we come out with podsednik? wtf is going on here?!?!
Pods hasn’t been signed.
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i know
but it sounds like we’re the only team who has offered him a contract and that scares the crap out of me.
by speedyt72000 on Dec 10, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
My friend said the Tigers offered a contract/are showing strong interest too.
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so . . .
I’m almost finished with my term paper: my finding was that even though UZR is a significant predictor of runs prevented, players have high UZR scores are not compensated higher than players who are similar in all other respects of the game.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
So, defense is underrated? Or is it UZR that’s underrated?
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Under compensated, I should say.
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defense is basically compensated by a player’s ability to play a position, but not his ability to play that position better than other players at that position.
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Cool! Though that seems slightly hard to believe. Even if only 10-15% of teams are utilizing that kind of data, that has to be higher than it was 5-10 years ago. Did you do any historical trend-type research?
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it's probably
the same thing that happened with OBP in Moneyball. They aren’t being paid higher, because the 3-4 teams which actually pay attention are exploiting the market inefficiency
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There’s also a risk element involved that isn’t there with OBP. My data showed that UZR declined pretty rapidly with age, whereas OBP is actuall positively correlated with age.
Basically if you want to pay for a guy who’s a 1 win defensive player at 28 years old, there’s a decent chance that he’ll be only a little above average by the time he’s 30.
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Yeah, I think MGL has said that his research has shown that defensive ability peaks fairly early on and steadily declines from there.
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I can dig up the chart, but I was very impressed. I think it’s very strong evidence that UZR is actually measuring an athletic ability.
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That’s pretty cool.
Of course, there are the outliers, but it does seem to suggest that you shouldn’t count on continued great defensive ability from guys over 30.
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The mainstream critique of UZR is that it doesn’t take things like jumps and positioning under consideration. It would make sense if that were true—-UZR could be slightly undervaluing older players who have lost some physical ability, but are mitigating some of it with smarts.
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I’m not sure if it’s undervaluing them so much as failing to distinguish between two skills that probably age very differently. Barry Bonds probably would have racked up fantastic UZRs in his youth on sheer athleticism. In his old age he was doing pretty well, but mainly on positioning and craftiness.
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I’m confused. Are you saying that craftiness IS reflecting in UZR, or isn’t?
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anything that allows you to turn a ball into an out that another fielder wouldn’t is reflected in UZR.
But say that you had a 25 year old who was ahead of the curve on positioning, but didn’t have great footspeed. UZR doesn’t distinguish between him and his faster, sloppier brethren.
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I could see thatit doesn't take positioning into consideration, since the "zones" are static.
But jump is a component of range. If you can measure range, then knowing what portion of a player’s range is jump vs. top speed is a bit academic.
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The mainstream critique of UZR is that it doesn’t take things like jumps and positioning under consideration.
Who says that? UZR measures outs. Jumps and positioning are part of making outs.
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I read it in the most recent issue of Baseball America.
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I don’t think that it’s completely wrong though. Imagine if an IF had an extreme shift on, and the hitter poked one through the whole on the left side. It would ding the 3B for something not really his fault.
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Well, depends on how you define “positioning”. I think rotorueter meant that positioning doesn’t affect UZR’s, which is obviously not true, because that’s part of making outs. If anything, it takes positioning too much into consideration, by ignoring how much luck is involved (like IF shifts).
I think the scouting consensus is that positioning is a repeatable skill. But I also think everyone would agree that some luck is involved, so the question is how much. Like a high BABIP for hitters – it’s a lot of luck, but there is some skill involved, and we should regress according to that. After 100 PA’s of a .350 BABIP, we assume it’s all luck, and expect a .300 BABIP going forward. Same after .300 PA’s. After 600 of .350 BABIP. we still expect a heavy regression, but acknowledge the player might have some special talent. Our projection is say, a .315 going forward. After 2 years, it’s up to .325. Only after 3-4 years we can safely assume that the player can really keep a .350 BABIP. We need to do something like that with UZR. Right now we can’t. So that’s a problem, but not one that would lead to undervaluing good positioning.
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The problem with positioning
is that I was under the impression that it is often dictated from the bench, particularly on the infield. And I don’t just mean shifts, I mean minor adjustments.
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Ah yes, this was the other part of the critique! Some players benefit inordinately from savvy coaching instructions.
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Counterargument
That may be true in other aspects of the game. It’s why teams have coaches.
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what it does do
is “penalize” a player who has been given subotimal positioning “x” by his coach. But I don’t think this is a flaw.
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It could be that irregularity of the first few years of the graph have to do with sub-MLB quality defenders either getting weeded out or moved down the defensive spectrum.
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that’s plausible. There are essentially two populations of baseball players: those that are done by their 27th birthday and the rest of them.
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I would also generally assume that the graph overrates old players.
Let’s say we have a league with three 25 year old OF’s. One is a +15 fielder, one is a +7, and one is a -10. So the average 25 y-o OF has a UZR of +4.
5 years later, they’ve all declined by 5 runs. Now one is a +10, one is a +2, and one is a -15. So the average 30 y-o OF has a UZR of -1 .
5 years later, they’ve again declined by 5 runs. Now one is a +5 , one is a -2, and one – well, theoretically he’s a -20, but that’s just so terrible, he’s not playing defense anymore. He’s either retired or a DH, depending on how good his bat is, but in any case he has no UZR. So the average 35 y-o OF has a UZR of +1.5.
By these results, 35 year old OF’s are 2.5 runs better than 30 year olds, when in fact we know they’re 5 runs worse. It’s basic selection bias – the worse you are, the lower odds you have of continuing to play. It’s true for anything, not just defense (though with defense it’s even more pronounced because players can move to easier positions or DH). If you’re 37 and still getting regular playing time, odds are you are way more talented than the average player.
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In your third example, the second guy would actually be a -3.
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Yes, the other aspect is that guys will slide down the defensive spectrum as they get older. A lot of prime CFs probably decline to league average, then are shifted to corner, providing a temporary dip in their decline.
I might come back to all this stuff later with a more robust dataset and try to make some actual model of defensive aging, with position changes and all that mixed in.
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“providing a temporary bump in their UZR” would be a better way to phrase that.
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What I learned
27-30 makes the graph look like it’s flipping the bird.
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whereas OBP is actuall positively correlated with age.
Becuase high OBP players stick around longer, or because players improve their OBP skills?
Or both, probably.
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Yeah, I’m guessing there’s a selection bias in there. If that were the main part of my paper, I would throw some fancy truncated model at it.
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my salary data ran up through last year. There was a decent sized movement in the compensation of UZR in 2008, but it still wasn’t very far from zero.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Huh. If Viliphied’s statement above is correct, then I wonder who is taking advantage. I have seen documents in the Clippers dugout stressing things like FIP, so I imagine the Indians are one of them. Perhaps the A’s and the Red Sox after that.
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Makes sense, what with the awesome OF last year, and the Figgins addition.
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Term paper? Aren’t you old?
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Lots of us old people go to school.
Just you wait, one of these days you’ll be old and looking for a new career path.
Nyah nyah, I never had a career path to begin with! I’m still on hold for my first real job ev0r!
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I have someone in her 50s in one class
And a dude with a kid in another.
Point being: you’re not old for a grad student.
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He’s the backup
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What the hell?
I completely forgot they were playing! Losing 3-13 is embarrassing. Still plenty of time, though.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
They’ve just completely disintegrated….. hehehehehe it’s almost as good as watching the dodgers get creamated by the worst team in the league.
I read that as “creampied” and not as “cremated”. Interesting.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
You need a woman, and fast.
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No. She can be slow. Really.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
Oh my… they’re losing to this!
B. Quinn: 5/15, 81 yards.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
lulz
B. Quinn: 6/19, 90 yards
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 10, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck you all!!!!!!!
These pretzels are making me thirsty
by NuschlerFace on Dec 10, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
This is the like the closest thing the city of Cleveland has come to a championship in years!!! lol
(hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes)
by KrazyKrabMeat on Dec 10, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
He’s going back to Cincy for the holidays and will get to go to Cincy’s last home game, he’s pretty excited about that. So long as their playoff performance this year is nothing like their last one….
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amazing
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
holy shit, the steelers actually lost
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Brady Quinn apparently thought he won the super bowl.
by Into the Void on Dec 10, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
hey
he doubled his teams win total FOR THE YEAR
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I have to give it up to Brady Quinn for one thing. Even though his team is terrible and his stats are terrible and he is terrible, he really doesn’t turn the ball over very much.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
TRADE ALEX SMITH FOAR HIM MIRTE
AT LEEST HIS HANDS R BIGGUR
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
But Alex Smith has also turned into a quarterback who rarely turns the ball over!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I've never once understood the "alex is a bust" camp
I’ve been pretty “meh” on him because he got injured and there’s not much you can do about that. And now it looks likes he’s not just “OK” but is actually good.
In short, suck it, haters.
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Grant’s totally about to make you a mod for that.
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did the fans tear down the goalposts?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Dec 11, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
What the heck is going on with that division? If someone would have told me before the season that both the Ravens and Steelers would miss the playoffs, I’d have thought they were nuts. But that’s how it’s looking.
Shyeahhhh no kidding
srsly, wtf. The NFL is impossible to figure out this year.
The one thing you can take to the bank: No FUCKING way the Vikings are the 3rd best team in the league. Everyone saying that is retarded. Other than that, I really don’t know what’s going on, especially in the AFC. It’s possible we get 2 west teams, only one east team, and only one north team. Crazy.
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Great
just read the whole thread, now i can do my homework
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 8:19 PM PST reply actions
lol wow
i just finished it too. BUT NO HOMEWORK FOR ME SUCKERR
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I like the idea.
Could be like the Cheeseheads, but for the Giants!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Melanoptera, the lost Gorgon sister, tried her hand at modeling.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
BAT IT AWAY!
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by satyricrash on Dec 10, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
90% of british housewives
can’t tell Whizzo butter from a dead crab
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
So, we still haven’t done anything, huh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I ate some waffles.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
I ate some pie.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 10, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
I had chili dogs for dinner
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I watched a little YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACJ9M1JKwjQ
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Oh and I had a chile relleno.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I made sausage & lentil stew.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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I ate bibimbap for lunch and sat at my desk not teaching for most of the day. 1.5 hours til the end of the workday. Did I mention that it’s Friday?
So you see jponry, we have done plenty of stuff.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm glad we all had productive days.
we had beef stew, btw.
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I drew a sexy picture.
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Pics or it didnt happen
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I’m still working on it.
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You draw your own porn? Cool
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
Natto will survive a nuclear holocaust!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, I’m not R. Crumb.
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;)
post pics
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Nice
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Dec 11, 2009 2:23 AM PST up reply actions
Not enough tentacles.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
hey baby
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
I had 4 beers and a cup of wine at a faculty welcoming party
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I folded my laundry and watched a few episodes of Dead Like Me.
George was not sailing that one-person boat by herself. Seriously. She’d never sailed before in her life!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
I got a new computer w0000t
and turned 22. That was meh.
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't Sabean Learn His Lesson?
Can’t believe that Sabean is even considering Podsednik, let alone possibly offering him a contract… Didn’t Sabean learn his lesson with Dave Roberts? Podsednik isn’t even as good as Roberts was when he signed with SF, and he did absolutely nothing for the Giants, actually probably hurt the team more than he helped in the long run. Mike Cameron makes a little sense, because he’ll hit us 25 homers and play about as good a center field as you can. Think Pedro Feliz of center fielders but with more speed and patience. Not sure if they could financially pulI it off, but this line-up would be a huge improvement, and not too far out of the realm of possibility I think. They’d just need to bump payroll up about 8-10 extra mill, but I think it could make them a contender. Plus you’d get to keep the pitching staff in-tact.
Rowand/Torres/Velez LF/CF
Sanchez 2B
LaRoche 1B (2 yr., $17.5 mill + 3rd year mutual option)
Sandoval 3B
Dye RF (1 yr. $8.5 mill + team option)
Cameron/Nady CF/LF (1yr. $8 mill/2 yr. $15 mill)
Renteria SS
Posey C
Probably wishful thinking on the contract projection, but they’d have to be in that ballpark I’d guess…. If they could pull something like that of, their 6th place hitter would be better than pretty much everyone they trotted out last season not named Pablo Sandoval and at times, Bengie Molina. I’d say that’s an improvement on what they’ve had the last 4 years.
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/
LOL to 17.5 mil to Laroche
LoL to 8.5 mil to Dye
LOL to 2 yrs 15 mil for Nady
You had me at Pods sucks and lost me everywhere else
This
Just another comment where I think to myself, “Oh thank god, another person with common sen…oh my. Wait…it gets worse? And worse again? WTF?”
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I was going to write something, but this pretty much sums it up.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
JERMAINE DYE?
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so naturally, he will probably be the future GM of the Giants
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Comments
Lincecum won his 2nd straight Cy Young. Congrats to all you SF fans. Tim reminds me of Mark “the Bird” Fidrych.
Fidrych’s career K/9 rate: 3.7. K/BB rate: 1.72. wheee.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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Now having watched the video
THIS IS THE STUPIDEST MAN EVER WTF.
Some highlights:
- At one point he says something about “Barry Bond”
- Everyone is a stud and a gap-to-gap-hitter
- He thinks a 3 year contract is short term
- At one point, when saying he doesn’t want to give these guys long-term contracts, he says he might give a long-term deal, 5-6 years, to some of them, like Jerry Hairston Jr. or Mark DeRosa.
- He calls Andres Torres a “nice young player”
- He admits Rowand’s stats suck but still thinks he was a “really nice” signing because he’s a gamer.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Its like watching a Bruce Lee movie.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 6:38 AM PST up reply actions
The guy hit uhhhhhhhh 21 RBI’s Uhhhhhhhh I mean home runs
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 6:36 AM PST up reply actions
you probably should have waited...
to link your blog until you gauged peoples reactions to your “idea”
Wrong wrong wrong wrong
You’re wrong.
Those are, for the most part, terrible ideas for signings.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
IS HE RIGHT OR WRONG!?!?!? I MUST KNOW
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Why do we keep penciling in Rent at SS?
I know he is getting paid a lot of money, but isn’t that the position where we can find the most improvement for next year? All these “upgrades” over Garkokawa and our outfielders seem okay but marginal. WHY NOT REPLACE THE GUY WITH THE 66 OPS+?
Realistic options only
Did you not hear that Bochy and Sabean were both given extensions?
Admit a mistake? Nah. He already used that up with Roberts
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'm with you
Playing lousy expensive players does not ever result in a salary refund somehow. The only explanation I’ve seen that makes sense, and it doesn’t just apply to the Ginats but every team saddled with a bad contract, is that the only thing that makes the rich person that signs the checks madder than seeing money spent on a lousy player is money paid to a lousy player that rides the pine.
I guess it’s like catching the butler taking a nap on the divan, instead of making crumpets from scratch for afternoon tea. They don’t like overpaying the butler, but they really don’t like paying for the nap.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Well, this cheered me up a little:
The Marlins are eager to move Uggla, their All-Star second baseman who has been on the Giants’ radar for months. A major-league executive familiar with the Marlins’ thinking said Uggla will be tendered arbitration on Saturday and could be traded by Monday or shortly thereafter.
The executive said the Marlins are aware the Giants wouldn’t include Jonathan Sanchez or Madison Bumgarner in a package for Uggla but remain interested in continuing talks.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
BOOM TO THE POWER OF BOOM
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure it's been discussed before...
Any thoughts on what it would take to get Uggla? Who would you give up and who would you not give up?
To be honest
The names that have thrown out have been so wide ranging that at this point, I have no idea at all what it would take. The only thing we’ve seen, which is promising, is that the price seems to have been dropping, and fast.
Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.
I would not give up anything good at all. In theory I wouldn’t even give up Lewis, but since the organization considers him expendable, that would be my top offer: Lewis and some C prospect(s).
They want to dump a fair-market value contract; I see no reason they should expect much of anything in return.
I don’t know what it will take but I know what the Marlins want – young, close to major league ready arms. Presumably, that’s why the Giants and Orioles are being considered here.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
So Runzler
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
People have noted how the Marlins seem increasingly “desperate” to get rid of him. In normal world that should mean the price goes down. However, this is baseball, and the Marlins and Sabean are involved, so I have no idea.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
good
still leaves Neal, Wheeler, etc however.
Wait it out Sabes
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Marlins want pitching. Wheeler cannot be traded for some months, but could be a PTBNL. That would be dumb, but frankly I doubt the Marlins want someone that far from the majors. Pucetas, Martinez, Joaquin, and Runzler would all seem like guys that could be dealt.
If im the Marlins
I think I would rather have Wheeler than Martinez
But your right, I forgot he couldnt be traded.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe something like Martinez + Joaquin?
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I’m okay with that. And I’d get half-dibs on Uggla.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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Wheeler cannot even be a PTBNL at this point. A PTBNL must be traded tot he new team within six months, and Wheeler’s contract will not be a year old in six months, making him ineligible to be traded.
Just no Posey (won’t happen), Bumgarner (won’t happen), or Neal (worried it might).
Bizarro Sabean at work.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Shit, I’ll probably regret saying that.
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by Giant among Angels on Dec 10, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Good.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 10, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
RADAR!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
The executive said the Marlins are aware the Giants wouldn’t include Jonathan Sanchez or Madison Bumgarner in a package for Uggla but remain interested in continuing talks.
In a PACKAGE?!?!?!
Either the Marlins are shameless, the think Sabean is tremendously stupid and actively seeks to destroy his team, or that Package also included Rentarrhea and Rowand.
WTF
"…this thing which tells time."
Don't panic
I am sure Sabes would poke holes in the package so they could breathe.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions
Children. Now individually wrapped.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 8:02 AM PST up reply actions
Once that thing pops, the kid’s eyes are gonna sting like hell
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
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by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
FUCK AND YEAH
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
I just showered, sorted my mail, got pissed off at my cousin, decided to not be pissed off, danced around the house, and washed the dishes.
Still no new Giants?
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Your rooms a little messy.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
AN UNFOLDED GIANTS SWEATSHIRT LYING ON THE BED IS DECOR
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Not until you wash your car.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
So you’re giving me a car?
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
Not until you wash your car scooter.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
I’d rather wash my ear.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Who's washing me?
I prefer soft smooth hands.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 10, 2009 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
I hear that’s howtheyscored.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll tell you I am giving you whatever you want.
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
/thinks, hard
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by shanghaijim on Dec 10, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Good News!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Dec 10, 2009 10:38 PM PST reply actions
if you got a contract extension
after assembling the worst offenses in baseball for several seasons, you wouldn’t be concerned either.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Non-Tenders
The non-tender deadline is Saturday December 12th at 11pm CST. Here’s a list.
Giants have Medders and Garko. The rumor has the Giants tendering Medders while Garko will be unemployed.
I can see Sabean kicking the tires on Dioner Navarro, Kevin Correia, Conor Jackson and possibly Garrett Atkins.
Later Garko
"It appears that Sabean is playing a game of chicken with Neukom wherein he elucidates the most outrageous things he could do as ML GM without getting fired." - cornball
WHAT AN AWESOME TRADE RITE GAIZ
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
BAY AREA TIES
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Count me in on Jackson
If he’s fully recovered from valley fever, a 2 or 3 year deal sounds good and I’m sure he will command less money than Nick Johnson. He’s been a solid hitter, still young at 27, relatively healthy despite that crazy fever and plays LF plus 1B (what the Giants desperately needs) so I don’t know why the D’Backs will let him go this easily.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Dec 10, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
isn't that a billion times better
than Podperson?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Dec 11, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Bork says happy hollidays!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysIzPF3BfpQ&feature=sub
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Dec 10, 2009 10:54 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Yeeeeesssssssss!
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Bochy made an appearance on last week’s SNL opening monologue. I think Andy Samberg played the part
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 10, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
haha yes!
http://www.hulu.com/watch/113234/saturday-night-live-blake-lively#x-4,cFull%20Episodes,1,0
At around 7:12ish Video is worth watching for Blake Lively’s cleavage alone
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
lol thank you
that’s awesome
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
The people who post it are apparently not from a fan site but from the Muppets company (Disney owned).
"meh"
WIN
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 1:29 AM PST up reply actions
Matt Cain on the KNBR Hot Stove League show (hosted this week by Dave Flemming):
http://www.knbr.com/common/medialib/201/77868.MP3
Apparently, Cain just got married.
"meh"
Congrats to him.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Dec 11, 2009 1:29 AM PST up reply actions
heard Damon Bruce talking the other night about how Nick Johnson wouldn’t help this team (something about dingerz and ribeyes) and that the team would struggle to just to make up for the loss of Bengie.
Thing A
Damon Bruce.
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Dec 11, 2009 5:19 AM PST up reply actions
On a related note, Gary interviewed the latest CSN baseball commentator.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Matt Cain is a good soldier. A damn good one.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
Now I’m imagining him stirring a giant pot of burning shit. Thanks a lot sam23.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Dec 11, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
What happened to Garrett Atkins the last two years?
He could be worth a one year flyer, his career away splits aren’t enticing, but he plays 1b and 3b and is right handed with a history of power. What are the contract rules on non-tendered players? Can they be had for a vet minimum? Also there’s no way Conor Jackson doesn’t get tendered, right?
"Don't trust anyone under the age of 30" - Brian Sabean
by Smotheredinhugs on Dec 11, 2009 5:20 AM PST reply actions
Atkins’ 2008 season wasn’t completely terrible at the plate, it was really only last year that was awful. His BABIP last season was 65 points worse than its ever been in any other full season and Bill James projects him to bounce back and put up another .800 OPS season. His glove is pretty bad no matter where you stick him though, and I’m thinking his high career BABIP had a whole lot to do with his home field. Signing Atkins to start at a corner infield spot would bum me out, but signing him to provide some depth or (Nick Johnson) insurance and a right handed bat off the bench would be fine with me. Anyone know just how bad would he be in leftfield? Bad enough that he wouldn’t be worth platooning with any of our lefty outfield bats?
I heard an interview with Josh Byrnes recently where he said Jackson will be with the team.
Thing A
On my way to work but had to post…
WE SIGNED TONY PENA JR
The Giants have signed Tony Pena Jr. — the shortstop-turned-reliever — to a minor-league contract, one major league source told FOXSports.com on Friday.
Pena would earn a base salary of $650,000 if he spends all of 2010 in the majors.
Once viewed as Kansas City’s potential shortstop of the future, Pena struggled offensively and moved to the mound midway through this year. He went 1-2 with a 2.33 ERA over 10 outings in the Royals farm system. (All but one was at Class A.)
Pena, 28, became a free agent after the season and is currently pitching for Aguilas of the Dominican Winter League. He is 2-0 with a 5.14 ERA in 17 relief outings there.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
"meh"
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Ken Rosenthal
Source: Giants’ talks for Uggla “warmer.” Dialogue continues, no agreement on names.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Because if there was an agreement on names, a deal would already be in place
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Dec 11, 2009 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
warmer= they're actually talking
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
They left the fucking sub-zero midwest. So the talks are warmer.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
jesus tell me about it
This is literally how it happened: it was like 50, then the NEXT FUCKING DAY it was like 20 below and snowing. I’m still recovering from that.
I mean, obviously it’s cold here, but that is ridiculous.
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Missing piece!
The Giants signed Tony Pena Jr. to a minor league deal worth $650K in the Majors, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Pena, 29 in March, logged over 2,000 innings in his Royals career as a shortstop, but is now trying pitching. He tossed 19.3 solid minor league innings this year, and is currently working in the Dominican Winter League.
I believe that’s Donovan McNabb.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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No, No, No its obviously Denzel Washington
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that’s Walter Koenig.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
That’s What Elin Said
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like Yu Darvish to me.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
HUGE aquisition by Sabes!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Dec 11, 2009 7:51 AM PST up reply actions
Tony Pena Jr.: possibly the worst hitter in the Major Leagues
2009: .098 / .132 / .118 in 53 PA; -3.1 Batting, 2.4 Fielding
2008: .169 / .189 / .209 in 235 PA; -24.9 Hitting, 17.4 Fielding
2007: .267 / .284 / .356 in 536 PA; -29.9 Hitting, 5.1 Fielding
2006: .227 / .261 / .341 in 46 PA; -9.4 Hitting, -1.9 Fielding
Career: -0.1 WAR, 150 K, 20 walks in 870 PA
Yeah, he’ll definitely make the roster. Fuck me.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
He’s a pitcher now, bro.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
When did this happen!?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
After he saw his stats as a hitter. ;)
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
from the quoted portion above
Pena, 29 in March, logged over 2,000 innings in his Royals career as a shortstop, but is now trying pitching. He tossed 19.3 solid minor league innings this year, and is currently working in the Dominican Winter League.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Ha, I suck
I just say Tony Pena Jr. and figured that was enough to freak out.
Looking in the minors, his numbers are indeed solid, but 19+ innings doesn’t mean that much.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Do Sabes or Boch owe his dad a favor or something? This signing just seems so random.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
It’s just a minor league signing for depth. He’ll probably end up in Fresno.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
And I like it, you can never have too many live bullpen arms.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Fair enough.
(Although, just to be bitter, the Giants didn’t seem to think so when they ditched Osiris Matos and kept Brian Bocock)
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’m still pissed they ditched Osiris Matos. He had solid stuff but pitched all of 26 mediocre major league innings.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Especially when they have at least a tiny bit of logged success.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
And now the royals have betancourt
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Also, LOL B-R sponsorship
After barely making it in ’08, we wish Tony Pena Jr. luck on his quest for a positive OPS+ in ’09!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Fuck me.
Since you are about to leave town, I agree!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
16 of the 18 top GIS results
For “Nick Johnson” “Porkins” are from McCovey Chronicles.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 8:57 AM PST reply actions
Yay, more catcher options
Though the Giants inquired about Detroit’s Gerald Laird, they are pursuing Torrealba on a one-year deal.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
If the Rockies are indeed offering Yorvit a 2 year deal, there’s no way he’ll take a 1 year deal from us, right?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
IDK, if we gave him $3m (or God forbid, more) and he knew he’d be starting at least the first part of the season, we might be a better option than CO. But I still have a hard time seeing him back in SF.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Colorado is offering 2/5.6M
I certainly hope we’re not going to offer 1/3.5
DNW this other Gerald:
Assets
Is a strong defensive catcher with a great arm. Also displays decent power at the plate and leadership qualities. Crushes southpaws.
Flaws
Can be a little too aggressive at the plate and has some trouble against righties. Struggles with runners in scoring position.
Career potential
A quality backup catcher, but below-average starter.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
We already have a string defensive catcher who cant hit.
Whiteside. DUH!
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 11, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
string=strong
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 11, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Noob reads
Press C to tab to new comments, Shift-C to tab backwards, X to mark as read, and Shift-A to mark all read.
The best: Z will simultaneously mark and tab forward, and R will reply to the comment that has focus.
Likes MCC much more now.
"…this thing which tells time."
the problem is that it’s so handy. I’m so used to doing this, that I find myself doing it on every site.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
you can use j and k to move forward and back, just like c and shift-c. I figured this out cause those are the vim and google reader buttons and i accidentally used them here
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Dec 11, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
OH MY GOD
I LOVE YOU. This site just got 100000000x more useful.
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously? What were you doing before, just scrolling manually???
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yup.
Scroll, reload, scroll, reload, wash, rinse, you get it…
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Dec 11, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
same
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Dec 11, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
I remember discovering it in the original FanPost they made about the change.
I was like “FFFFF I HATE THIS SO MUCH THIS IS THE WORST oh hey, does Z really scroll through new comments and mark them as read? and do new comments really pop up without needing to refresh? THIS IS AWESOME.”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I remeber I was relitively new
And that thread was when I first suspected you’re completely insane.
I was promised lasagna.
It took me a while to notice that too
For a long time, I was just trying to click on the names when new comment alerts came up.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Ha. My first day on MCC was when MadBum started for Timmy. I was doing the scroll/reload thing and it was out of control. I was like, “How the fuck are people posting and responding to each other so fast?”
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
lol WE R CYBORGZ
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by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not posting on her facebook! =/
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
TWSS!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
SIT ON MY FACEBOOK!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Add an H and we’re in business.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
If you insist...
SIT ON MY FACEBOOKH!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
SITH ON MY FACEBOOK!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
That’s what I was hoping for.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
MY FACEBOOK IS THE NEW MCC
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
PURPLE PINSTRIPE DREAMS!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
And by this I mean
Howie’s facebook is the new Purple Row.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Dec 11, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
low blow
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I read that as
lol blow
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
LOLCAINE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
LOLCAINE FOAR FEELDER
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
me too
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously. My Facebook might not allow swearing, but at least I keep the Jesus to a minimum.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
So does Bochy
He only gave Guzman what, maybe three ABs?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I wonder if PR has discussed us lately
Not much. A few of them actually like us here: http://www.purplerow.com/2009/12/10/1194552/winter-meetings-day-4-all-quiet-on#26953890
We are the Christian Missionaries to them
And most days, that’s okay.
by Muzia on Dec 10, 2009 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Huh?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I don’t get why they think we want the Giants to lose.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
All we really care about is making jokes and talking about lunch.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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WHINE AND CHEESE BLOG!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
WHINE AND CHEESE BLOG LINKED TO JOKES ABOUT LUNCH
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Dec 11, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Want the who to what now?
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
How did we make it 1200+ post into this P.O.D(sednik) debacle of an idea without a single Pick Of Destiny reference? What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is going on here, are we being becoming cultured or something? Of course this pick is made from something else the horned one left behind. No, I would not stand down wind of it if I were you.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
EEK DNW
I feel like I need someone from Purple Row to come over and do an exorcism.
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by shanghaijim on Dec 11, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
New Thread:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/12/11/1196567/the-giants-have-no-alibi-hes-uggla#storyjump
I don't know about that, to the groin.
Speed
Getting Podsednik would be something my dad and like-minded fans would love. “The Giants need to RUN in that ball park. It’s not a power park. They should get guys like the ’85 Cardinals.”
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
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