SBN Awards: NL Manager of the Year
by Grant on Nov 9, 2009 4:22 PM PST
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| Rk | Manager | Team | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Jim Tracy | Colorado Rockies | 24 | 1 | 2 | 125 |
| 2 | Tony LaRussa | St. Louis Cardinals | 3 | 7 | 10 | 46 |
| 3 | Fredi Gonzalez | Florida Marlins | 2 | 6 | 5 | 33 |
| 4 | Joe Torre | Los Angeles Dodgers | - | 9 | 2 | 29 |
| 5 | Charlie Manuel | Philadelphia Phillies | - | 3 | 5 | 14 |
| 6 | Bruce Bochy | San Francisco Giants | 1 | 1 | 1 | 9 |
| 7 | Bobby Cox | Atlanta Braves | - | 1 | 4 | 7 |
| 8 | Bud Black | San Diego Padres | - | 1 | 1 | 4 |
| 9 | John Russell | Pittsburgh Pirates | - | 1 | - | 3 |
Go ahead. Ask me if that's my first-place vote for Bochy. The answer is after the jump!
No.
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no
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA
by kennv on Nov 9, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Whoever gave that vote should ban themselves.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 9, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me, or is it becoming more and more evident that Bobby Cox is one of the great managers of all time? That team is consistently in contention, even with huge turnover of players, and he’s shown that he can do well with veteran teams and with young-ish teams.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a fan of his in-game managing, but the Braves have been consistently amazing, and he deserves some of the credit, I’d think.
by Grant on Nov 9, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
was he the GM in the 90’s too
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 9, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Late 80’s. The former Royals GM from the George Brett days was the Braves GM during the 90’s.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 9, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And he still is the undefeated champ in wife-beating.
My season is “best” when the Giants win the WS- “good” is when they finish above the Braves. This was a good year.
Don't worry, nothing will be allright.
by rcrusoe on Nov 9, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And he still is the undefeated champ in wife-beating.
32-1 record with 15 KOs!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wait, there’s a defeat in there. I didn’t think this through.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
I feel terrible for laughing. At a howie joke. Damn.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Nov 10, 2009 4:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Phenomenal spousal abuse knowledge.
Runner up goes to Tony LaRussa and his consensus national championship in managerial DUIs.
by Ed Jew on Nov 9, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Could he be our era's Connie Mack?
Like Grant I am not always a fan of his choices by darn if there is not a coherent rational to the risks he chooses to run.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 10, 2009 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about the 2nd place vote?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Nov 9, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
PR love for Boch?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Nov 9, 2009 4:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s got to be it. No one in their right mind would put any of those guys anywhere near this list.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 9, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could understand a vote for Russell. Bochy, not so much – even from an outsider’s perspective, what did he do that was helpful?
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Nov 10, 2009 6:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His team outperformed expectations
to most people that = managerial success
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Nov 10, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RAY RATTO APPROVED.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by scout6 on Nov 10, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL SOMEONE
Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE
by CB30 on Nov 9, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
who did you vote for?
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Nov 9, 2009 4:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tracy, Fredi, and LaRussa, in that order.
by Grant on Nov 9, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You bastard
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 10, 2009 1:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lolwut
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Nov 9, 2009 5:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I despise Bochy, BUT
If the Giants made the playoffs I think there would be a strong case for him being the manager of the year.
Yes, he poorly managed often, but no one at the beginning of the year expected them to win this many games, let alone make the playoffs.
Of course, they didn’t make the playoffs, so this selection is stupid.
Let's bring the...
by Swager on Nov 9, 2009 5:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If the Giants made the playoffs it would have been in spite of Bochy.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by scout6 on Nov 9, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THIS
he did more harm than good
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 10, 2009 1:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your logic
is not.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Nov 10, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying it’s the correct choice, but he would have been a top contender.
Rxmeister is right. The award is basically the "Manager of a team that was supposed to stink but turned out to be pretty good." award.
Let's bring the...
by Swager on Nov 10, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Bork
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 9, 2009 5:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Manager of the year is a joke of an award
It is all based on how your team did that year and very little with the manager’s decisions.
by nofreetime on Nov 9, 2009 5:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Manager of the year is stupid. And I know this is NL, but if I was voting, the only manager I’d ever vote for is Soscia. The Angels seem to outperform their pythag every single year, and that’s basically the only thing I’ve ever seen that could convince me a manager is actually making a tangible difference on W-L…
by Missing Barry on Nov 9, 2009 6:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder who the sad sack was that voted for Bochy. Maybe it was the Washington Nationals’ blog person.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Nov 9, 2009 6:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Probably the guy from the Padres blog. They seem to like him over there.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Nov 9, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m voting for Charlie Manuel’s hunches. Charlie Manuel gets my third place vote.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 6:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is this a series?
Will there be an SBN ROY, MVP, Cy Young, etc?
-n00b
by goGSW24 on Nov 9, 2009 6:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Only as long as Grant can meet the minimum required one word after the jump to post a front page story.
AND NO FILLER GRANT! I’M TIRED OF SEEING THIS CRAP:
“1”
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 9, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The manager of the year award should be more accurately renamed as “Manager of a team that was supposed to stink but turned out to be pretty good.”
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Nov 9, 2009 6:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much. I should have given more consideration to Cox, but Tracy did do a good job of working around that pesky “more talented outfielders on the bench than the Giants have in their organization” problem.
by Grant on Nov 9, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but Tracy did do a good job of working around that pesky "more talentedoutfieldersplayers on the bench than the Giants have in their organization" problem.
Fixed
by NeifiChicken on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOLWUT
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 9, 2009 7:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tracy--manager of the part-of-a-year
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Nov 9, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OT: Note to Niners
…..Watch Steelers. Play like Steelers. Win games.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Nov 9, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Step 1
get ben roethlisberger, troy polamalu, james harrison, casey hampton, and their offensive line.
That may take awhile
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 10, 2009 1:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who let Ray Ratto vote?
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 9, 2009 7:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t believe you.
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 9, 2009 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
JIM TRACY IS DUMBER THAN A BAG OF DOG SHIT, PURPLE ROW
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Nov 9, 2009 10:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
After having Clint Hurdle, Tracy probably seems like Earl Weaver.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 9, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I vaguely remember some dumb game this past summer vs. the Rockies with Tracy and Bork entangled in a pinch-hitter-on-deck decoy duel that, I think, Bochy ended up putting over on the eventual “Manager of the Year”. Whatever it was, it was so dumb, like decoying with Fraddy Sanchez, who limped out tot he on-deck circle and used his bat to prop himself up – whatever it was it was that obvious. We were sure have remarked at the time in the GDT about how dumb Tracy must be to get tricked by god damned Bruce Bochy.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Nov 9, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I remember that
It was fun.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 9, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to think about that game
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Nov 9, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now I remember the rest of the game. :\
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by Natto on Nov 10, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BAD GAME MEMORY.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by scout6 on Nov 10, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THAT'S WHY I SAID "SOME DUMB GAME", GUYS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Nov 10, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHY MUST YOU TORTURE US?!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Nov 10, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I don’t know. /admires manicure like movie villain
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Nov 10, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not pro Bochy by any means (that double switch in the first Dodger’s series when he brought in Velez in LF for Lews with the winning run on 3B pissed me off to no end) but are we really to the point where if you vote for anyone other than the McCovey Groupthink you should ban yourself?
by tyrannoman on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 10, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well
in this particular case, the “Groupthink” is pretty much anyone but Bochy. I mean there’s no real consensus MCC MOY, I’ve seen like 5 other names in this thread alone
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by Viliphied on Nov 10, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Xeifrank, is that you!?
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by jcb9 on Nov 10, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yes, it’s been that way for quite some time. Just plain Internet messageboard dynamics. Not really important.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 10, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just drop the manager of the year award. Managers don’t do crap. Or just give it to the manager who’s team most outperforms their pythag.
by Missing Barry on Nov 10, 2009 8:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he will be listed next year in the manager of the year but Tim Kurkjian is reporting that the Nationals will Jim Riggleman will be named manager of the Nationals taking off the interim tag from 2009.
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