handful of "puzzle piece" options
Garrett Atkins, Nick Johnson, Adrian Beltre, Chone Figgins, Mark DeRosa, Xavier Nady, Eric Byrnes, and Khalil Greene, are all guys MLBtraderumors.com has highlighted as free agents for this year, and I expect the Giants to take a look at all of them if they hit the open market without vested interest from their current teams. It seems pretty likely for all of them.
These are the kinds of players who could help this team if they were picked up under the right conditions (ie. Greene and Byrnes get minor league contracts like Uribe did last year). I really would like to see Giants pick up somebody like Jason Bay or Matt Holiday, but their cost seems prohibitive when Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Brian Wilson are due raises, and this team really should be looking a couple years down the road to when Baumgarner and Posey are solidified as contributors.
For discussion, which 1-3 of these players would you most like the Giants to sign?
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ahem
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/11/5/1117567/lukewarm-stove-the-beginning
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 5, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
also
that thread’s doesn’t appear serious at all
by coicoy on Nov 5, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know where you’re getting that notion considering there’s a mile-long thread about Garko alone.
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by Natto on Nov 5, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no offense to you. It looks to be epic.
by coicoy on Nov 5, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me
This thread won’t be that serious either.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
by marcello on Nov 5, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Go Monty

Actually probably belongs in the Timmy Weed thread
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Nov 5, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My offseason wishlist:
Chone Figgins
BJ Upton
Carl Crawford
Mike Cameron
Scott Podsednik
Rick Ankiel
Xavier Nady
Mark DeRosa
No particular order, but if the giants pick any of the above mentioned, while avoiding the “destined to fail” list (Dye, Matsui, Damon, Beltre, Guerrero, N.Johnson, M. Bradley), I might just let Sabean back into my good graces.
That being said, though, anything I say should be taken with a grain of salt…I was excited when the giants picked up T. Shinjo….
by AndrewWK on Nov 5, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
DNW:
Figgins (too expensive), Podsednik (too old/not an upgrade), DeRosa (too old/expensive/overrated), Ankiel (not an upgrade)
Would be okay with if it’s not a long, expensive deal:
Cameron, Nady
Want, but won’t get:
Upton (Rays won’t sell low), Crawford (more likely a 2010 midseason trade; otherwise we give up too much)
Also, Beltre, Johnson, and Bradley are perfectly acceptable signings. I don’t want Beltre because his loss of power scares me, but I can see where he’s an interesting idea (if he can put up power numbers again he’s a great player). But Johnson and Bradley both represent sizable upgrades in our biggest deficiency, OBP, in positions that are semi-open, and bring a little power to the table as well. If we picked both of those guys up I’d be a happy camper.
by quincy0191 on Nov 5, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Id like to politely disagree with most of this:
Figgins – I guess we’ll see how the market develops, but I’d have no problems with a 30-36mm 3 year deal.
Podsednik – Had an average over 300 and an obp over 350. He stole 30 bases and played catalyst for the white sox all year long. He could be 50 years old as long as he’s putting up numbers like that. Obviously stay away from a long term deal or a lot of cash. But bring him on, if he doesn’t pan out we’ve got a half dozen mediocre kids to take his place.
DeRosa – His versatility makes him valuable for the right financial deal. He also quietly put up decent power numbers. You’re right though, he’ll most likely want way more than he’s worth.
Ankiel – 08 Ankiel, I agree. But a return to 07 form would be a huge upgrade. Again, an incentive laiden short term deal. Make him compete with the kids for a slot in the starting lineup.
Beltre – Beltre is a joke of a player. He’s been a thorn in the side of Seattle and before that LA for years. Last year’s line of .265 8 44 .304 are comparable to Ishikawa (.261 9 39 .329) whom he would be replacing for way more money.
Johnson – I think we’re all a little OBP-struck with Johnson. He’s definatly the best of my “destined to fails” and prolly doesn’t deserve to be there. I’m just not sure how much of an upgrade he really is and if he’s worth the money when it could be spent upgrading in a more significant way.
Bradley – Bradley for Rowand? There’s a reason why teams give Bradley away. He’s a cancer, and I’d rather the Giants not spend next season distracted by off field antics. Rowand, though not the strongest player, is a stand up guy and strong clubhouse presence.
by AndrewWK on Nov 6, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is like a greatest hits version of the ESPN talking heads.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
by marcello on Nov 6, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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by Natto on Nov 6, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol taking up 50% of available space
by sfoakbay on Nov 6, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kruk is one of only two ESPN talking heads who isn’t a Yankees fan.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Nov 6, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK.
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by Natto on Nov 6, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You watch ESPN after the World Series. Everyone but Kruk was giddy about the Yankees title. I say one of only two because Berman is a Giants fan.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Nov 7, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t watch ESPN, but when I used to, Kruk always talked about his Phils. I am sure he was just down that his team lost the WS.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 7, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And everyone else was so damn giddy. I turned to MLB Network and they were fair.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Nov 7, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just wondering what that had to do with the subject at hand.
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by Natto on Nov 7, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s just picture of John Kruk.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Nov 7, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 7, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I give up
This website is always going off on different subjects so I did. I know you don’t like me much. I don’t care. (You don’t comment like this on some people who do this)
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Nov 7, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't not like you
I’m more amused than annoyed. marcello mentioned ESPN talking heads, so I just posted the first one that came to mind.
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by Natto on Nov 7, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know why some people think Figgins is going to get a short deal. And at $12M a year, he’s Rowand II; a typically okay player who’s had two great years and is hitting free agency after the second one. I’d like to avoid a second Rowand contract, personally; Figgins isn’t worth what he wants or what he’s going to get.
Podsednik is basically an older version of our glut of young outfielders. If, as you say, we can replace him, why not do it and see if one of our young guys is serviceable? I think Schierholtz can hit .300/.350/.400, just like Podsednik, with better defense and for less money. Bowker can definitely hit that, likely a lot more, with mediocre defense and for less money. Lewis is the same. Why sign an older version of something you’ve already got?
DeRosa is going to get a deal that’s way better than he’s worth. I don’t even want to look at him; he’d force Pablo to first, he’s not that good anymore, he’s getting quite old, he’s too expensive. That’s three more reasons than are necessary to stay away from DeRosa.
Ankiel would be a decent minor-league signing, but he’ll get a better deal than that. Giving a contract and a starting job to a player who hasn’t really proven he’s all that good doesn’t make a lot of sense; the Giants don’t have the money to gamble like that.
Your Beltre argument confuses me. We should take a chance on Ankiel returning to his 2007 production, but we can just ignore Beltre’s 2004 production? Beltre’s been a far more consistent hitter than Ankiel, and his defense alone makes him a decent signing. Like I said, I don’t really want him because he would push Pablo to first and eliminate the Johnson possibility, but he’s a good player and would be an upgrade for this team.
Johnson’s got a career OBP of .401, so last year’s .426 wasn’t a fluke or anything. He’s produced good power numbers in the past, and his injury history would likely limit him to 1-2 years at $6-7 million per. A player who addresses our two largest needs, OBP and power, at an “open” position, on an affordable deal is a good idea. Worst case scenario, we lose $12 million over a couple years and Garko plays first. We’ve had worse scenarios play out.
Bradley is basically Johnson II in the outfield, pretty much the only other open position. Giants fans and the Giants front office probably won’t care about his attitude, and if the players get too upset about it they can go take a money bath to calm down. The media would probably hate him, but they hated Bonds, too, and he worked out pretty well. I don’t know if Bradley is the best idea, but you can’t get rid of a contract like Rowand’s without taking some risk. Worst case scenario, we cut Bradley and play Schierholtz/Bowker for league minimum or close to it and save $15 million. Those two guys can definitely match Rowand’s offensive production and probably improve on his defense.
by quincy0191 on Nov 6, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
except when looking purely at talent between figgins and rowand, figgins is clearly better. but when you combine the contract he’s going to get, the position he will be playing, etc. he isn’t worth it.
by sfoakbay on Nov 6, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t say Figgins is clearly better in talent at all. Figgins is 32 years old and has been worth 11.6 WAR over the last 4 seasons. Rowand was 30 years old and had been worth 16.8 WAR over the last 4 seasons. I’d say Rowand was better at the time he signed than Figgins is now as well as being younger.
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by GiantFan on Nov 6, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, true maybe
rowand was coming of a career year in a bandbox and sabean overpaid for him
by sfoakbay on Nov 6, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but Figgins is coming off a career year and Sabean (or who ever ends up signing him) will overpay him.
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by GiantFan on Nov 7, 2009 12:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My offseason wishlist
Mike Cameron
Nick Johnson
Matt Holliday
No Molina
and a PS3
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Nov 6, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take the no Molina but an XBox 360.
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by SFGuy on Nov 6, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Similar to my wish list.
1) Holliday
2) Mike Cameron and Nick Johnson
Marlon Byrd and Adam LaRoche would be possible alternatives to Cameron or Johnson.
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by GiantFan on Nov 6, 2009 7:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And a pony.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 6, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A Wizard and a unicorn
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Nov 6, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jessica Alba
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Nov 6, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and her twin sister… They’re triplets, man!
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by JRPhillips on Nov 6, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My list
1. Nick Johnson- however I would keep Ryan Garko for occasional starts against lefties and for frequent starts when Johnson is hurt.
2. Xavier Nady- should be cheap, although if Boras wants to play games forget about it. I’ve read a very impressive list of shortcomings about all the potential FA leftfielders out there, but I think fans are forgetting that the plan right now is a platoon of Velez and Torres. That’s the definition of shortcomings. I don’t realistically see us signing Bay or Holliday.
3. Brad Penny- Sabean is being stupid if he doesn’t think he needs another starter. One month of Joey Martinez is going to make him rush Mad Bum up here, and what if Mad Bum’s velocity doesn’t come back? When you’re trying to cover massive lineup holes with generic band aids, you really can’t afford to have a fifth starter who gives up five or more runs with every outing. You fortify the pitching, not throw money at hitters who represent marginal upgrades.
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by rxmeister on Nov 6, 2009 6:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
So if you keep Garko and sign Johnson
You must be willing to let go of Ishi. Some people around here, and on other boards would burn some fuses over that one. I’m totally fine with it. Ishi is a pretty good platoon 1B, actually no he’s not. He’s a great defender who forgot how to take walks once he became a San Francisco Giant and will never hit for power in the bigs. I’d be thrilled to watch the Ishi lovers flail when he was waived because the Giants couldn’t trade him.
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by Cody_ransom on Nov 6, 2009 7:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a great defender who forgot how to take walks once he became a San Francisco Giant and will never hit for power in the bigs.
All that said we as tied for 4th in OPB among the Giants with over 50 PA’s. I am not invalidating your conclusion just remarking how freaking’ fair this team has fallen in the INF.
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by daveinexile on Nov 6, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t say he’s forgotten how to walk, he’s walked at a similar rate with the Giants as you’d expect. His BB% are as follows over the last three seasons:
2009 (Giants): 8.3%
2008 (Giants): 8.9%
2008 (Fresno): 7.3%
2008 (CT): 12.6%
2007 (CT): 8.9%
2007 (SJ): 8.6%
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by GiantFan on Nov 6, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t want Nady because he isn’t actually good. He had a good season but aside from that he’s not really an upgrade over what we have.
Don’t want Penny either as he’s likely to be too expensive. I’d sooner we try and find a couple of undervalued pitchers on the scrapheap (the next Penny) and spend the money on offensive upgrades.
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by GiantFan on Nov 6, 2009 7:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Xavier Nady is not better than a platoon of Eugenio Velez and Andres Torres? On what planet?
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by rxmeister on Nov 6, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Nov 6, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he may be better than Velez, but better than bad doesn’t mean good.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Nov 6, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well he’s a worse player than Lewis (although he’s obviously not going to be given the chance). It’s not that our internal options are great it’s just that Nady isn’t either. Aside from his one good year he’s averaged 0.8 WAR per year (obviously discounting last year). Bowker, Schierholtz, Velez/Torres are probably not far off that level and don’t cost money to acquire.
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by GiantFan on Nov 6, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Earth, 2009.
Seriously, though. Not only is Nady a one year wonder coming off a serious injury, he’s been a poor defensive outfielder for most of his career. Enough so that Torres’ defense might actually give the scrub platoon a slight edge.
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by Bhaakon on Nov 6, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nady was pretty good in 2006 too, especially compared to the production we have gotten out of left field. I think he’s one of those players who took awhile to find himself after all the hype when he was a kid in San Diego. I saw him play a lot when he was with the NY teams and believe me, he’s a massive upgrade over Torres/Velez. Of course you have the health issue with him, so getting him cheaply with an incentive laden contract would be the way to go. I know the Mets traded him in 2006 at the deadline because they were desperate for a starter and a reliever after Duaner Sanchez was injured in a cab accident and spent the next two years trying to get him back. The guy’s a good ballplayer when healthy, although I know he’s a free swinger and we really shouldn’t be looking at those type guys after the past few years. Still, it’s not like he would be replacing Barry Bonds. It’s Eugenio Velez, people!!
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by rxmeister on Nov 7, 2009 6:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Xavier Nady career OPS+: 108
Fred Lewis career OPS+: 102
Granted, Lewis has a much smaller sample size, but he plays much better defense. And of course, both are much better than Eugenio Velez.
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by Natto on Nov 7, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is amazing. It seems like everyone is universally against Sabean’s tendency to overpay for veterans who represent a marginal upgrade over any younger player we already have, or any player who could potentially prove to be better.
And then I see people saying their wishlist includes Eric Byrnes, and I think… What the heck?
And most everyone would prefer we not overpay for anyone over the age of 30 for too many years or too many dollars. And then I see the suggestion that they’d be okay paying 31-year-old Chone Figgins 30-36mil over 3 years, and I think… Yikes. Really?
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by JRPhillips on Nov 6, 2009 10:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oof, apparently I failed to notice that Chone will be 32 when the season starts. 12mil for a 35 year old Chone Figgins? I’d really rather not!
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by JRPhillips on Nov 6, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chone. I can’t get over that spelling.
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by cain1rstballothof on Nov 6, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Chould Chone get chigned, I chall be happy, unlesch a chowing of the contract reveals it to be more than three years long.
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 6, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was good for the first half, then you lost me.
by quincy0191 on Nov 6, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Darn. Dearth of (ch)’s in the second half of the sentence. How to remedy…?
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 6, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chabean chould chign Chone, cho our checond base is cholid offensively. Chanchez can chwitch positions to third.
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 6, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eliminate the “positions”, you can’t have that many non-ch words in a row.
by quincy0191 on Nov 6, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to think of pronounced like chonies all the time…
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chonies
…took awhile to change…
by coicoy on Nov 6, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would give Eric Byrnes a chance
This guy hit 286, had 21 hrs and 83 RBIs 2 years ago and he can still run as far as I know and he plays hard and tries hard and he has something to prove, prove he is still worth something. I think he is, I don’t know if we could get him on a minor league deal, I think we should try though its worth a shot, maybe he could come back in all star form. Or play ok even if he isn’t back to all star form you still have a guy who is willing to work his butt off to help the team. I love Marylon Byrd’s game too he would be a big upgrade.
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by Mike Fox on Nov 6, 2009 5:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Old, injury-prone player whose game was always based on athleticism and effort. Do not want, mainly because Bochy would have one of his vet-splosions, start Byrnes every day and bat him fourth.
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by cornball on Nov 6, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hometown discount
is why I like Byrnes.
If he gets treated the way Uribe was treated, and is played roughly proportional to his production and the relative talent, then he works. In other words, consider him like Velez last year.
by coicoy on Nov 6, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
young guys can get better
The bums gave up on Jason Werth, and he became a relatively good player. All those great stats and when I see how good they supposedly make Rowand, and then I see Rowand in clutch situations constantly choke, and have post allstar stats that suck, I wonder how good all the stats really are. Sometimes you can see something without the numbers, ie; Aaron Rowand, and you don’t need the numbers to see if he sucks or not. His fielding is not that bad, and considering that he is not exceptionally fast, his fielding looks even better, but I would rather have Andres Torres playing the outfield in late innings of a close game.
by bradleybear on Nov 6, 2009 11:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All you have to do is see Rowand swing at a slider to know how much he sucks.
by quincy0191 on Nov 7, 2009 12:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It took me witnessing 3 slidepieces in a row in the same location to realize this.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 7, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Byrnes has had a pretty long career, and been good for about 1 and 1/2 seasons.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Nov 7, 2009 8:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My top three are
1) Nick Johnson
2) Garrett Atkins
3) Chone Figgins
The way I see it, the Giants have options in the outfield while the infield lacks depth. All three of those guys could fit somewhere in the top 6, maybe top 5 hitting slots. The problem is that one of them will likely fill the CI need while individually not being able to fulfill all the Giants hitting needs. Atkins provides a bat, Johnson provides OBP, Figgins provides a better 1-2 hitter (OBP + speed).
The question I about Atkins is: What changed? Did the league figure him out, did he just have a bad year… or what?
The question I have about Johnson is: Will the Giants figure out how to use him for maximum effect?
The question I have about Figgins is: Who can advance him once he gets on base and does his thing? Pablo?
by coicoy on Nov 7, 2009 12:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
(note: this list is from the players I outlined above and is in no way exhaustive)
by coicoy on Nov 7, 2009 12:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Atkins might actually be a good reclamation project; if he’s willing to sign some crap deal so we can throw him away if he continues to suck then by all means pick him up. But you’ve gotta have the same reservations about him as Figgins and Nady: they had occasional freakish good runs, but you can’t count on that, and therefore you can’t build a lineup around them. As additional pieces they’re great, as building blocks they’re scary.
Johnson is a solid player if he’s healthy; he’s the kind of guy I can see plugging in the 3-spot and knowing you’re going to get consistent production. Of course, if he’s hurt you’re not getting much out of him, are you?
Personally I prefer the more consistent player; I’d go Johnson, Bradley, Cameron. If you get one of those guys there’s a good chance they’ll do what they’ve always done: hit. They all have issues (injuries, personality problems, age), but there’s two situations: they play well, or they don’t play. You’re not watching Bochy trot Figgins or Nady out there despite their Rowand-esque performance.
by quincy0191 on Nov 7, 2009 1:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My prediction of the off season is that every player that gets traded or signed by another team will produce a rash of fan posts saying we should have gotten that guy, while every player we actually DO get will be greeted by a rash of fan posts saying he’s a bum. I’m not sure if this is the nature of Giants’ fans in general, or because our GM is garbage. Probably a combination of the two.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Nov 7, 2009 5:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Optimism? We know of no such word
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 7, 2009 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we are large and contain multitudes
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Nov 7, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you say we are a Plethora?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 7, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yuck
Is that contagious?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 7, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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