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So LOL at me for selling my car

As many of you know I live, work and attend school in Philly. When I moved to Philly I, decided to live in the safest neighborhood I could find, the issue is that it also the highest tourist attraction of the city, Olde City. The Betty Ross House, Penns Landing and Benjamin Franklin House are about 1 block away (all in different directions), the liberty bell, constitution center, independence mall, the federal mint, the national Reserve, federal court, Carpenters Hall, Franklin Square and Washington Park are all within 7 blocks as are other sites like the 1st and 2nd national bank and other early central hubs of the government. All these sites mean one thing, lots of tourist and little parking, therefor no street parking for residence. So I sold my car rather than pay $200 each for parking and insurance.

I thought being carless in the city would be fine, as I lived next to a subway station and I would sign up for Zipcar and save TONS of money. WRONG about zipcar, but that story is for another time.

Last night I watched the Phillies and went to bed, expecting to wake up, walk my two dogs and go to work event free. Again, I was WRONG. And about 850,000, minus SEPTA workers and families, people probably felt the same way. SEPTA's, the local transit authority, largest union has been threatening to strike since the beginning of the world series. Both sides said all weekend that the talks have been moving along and that "only the issue of wages" was really a debate now.

Last night as I went to bed I thought TWU, the striking Union, wouldn't strike. I wake up and find out the are striking and started striking at 3:50 this morning. I mean WTF, right? I am on fence as far my view of unions go. I know that if they didn't exist workers would be abused but I also don't like the picketing they do when contractors hire non-union workers.back to TWU, why would a Public Transit union strike at 3:50 in the morning, with little or no warning to public? If they want people on their side they need to be courteous, as it is the union, not SEPTA that will get a black eye from strike, this time. That will dwindle public approval and support and eventually lead to a NO vote on future tax measures regarding SEPTA. That could hurt union members future pay.

One group of people enjoying this? Taxi drivers, for me it is about a $15 taxi ride to work. According to google map, I live 3.2 miles from my place of employment and school. I walked it this morning, about 55 minutes, and couldn't find one open cab for the first 35 or so minutes.

Bottom line. I am fucked for the near future. Why is it not illegal for public transit unions to have a full strike? And what are your views of unions? Has a union ever fucked you over, or benefited you?

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Public sector workers should not be allowed to unionize

In the private sector, Unions can play a role in making workplaces safer and bargaining fairer.

But people who are paid with taxpayer dollars should not be allowed to unionize. It makes no sense. Why do we allow an organization to exist whose only purpose is to get more money out of taxpayers?

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

these people make $25/hr after 4 or 5 years…to drive BUSES! OK, I know they also drive trolleys and other vehicles but come on! they pay 10/month for health care and their pention isn’t to shabby and they want a 4% pay reais/year!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You do realize that is about $52,000/year gross based on 40 hours/52 weeks? I’m not sure about Philly, but living in San Francisco comfortably is not real easy as a single person on that wage, I couldn’t imagine trying to raise a kid making that much. Also, the raise of 4% mostly covers the rate of inflation so it isn’t much of a raise at all.

However, I do think unions who strike right now are really dumb. Unemployment is high, people are taking pay cuts/reduced hours to stay employed, etc. Now is not the time you are going to garner much public support for your cause. If I were them, I’d negotate a short term contract (2-3 years) and hope things have improved by the time negotations begin next time. (Note: this is just general talk, I have no idea of the Philly situation and specifics)

by AngelWillSaveUs on Nov 3, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I do realize that. Philly is much cheaper that SF. I pay 1075/month for a 1000 sqft loft, in one of the most expensive areas, and about 70 dollars a month in electricity. I know 52,000 grand a year isn’t a lot but for the line of work they do its more than fair.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 3, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

FYI, NYC bus driver make ~26-27 dollars/hr

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 3, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So you feel they are overpaid? What’s a fair wage?

by AngelWillSaveUs on Nov 3, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well not more than 25/hr

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 3, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

$52 million a year is actually a lot. Why don’t you go buy the Marlins?

by quincy0191 on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“Why do we allow an organization to exist whose only purpose is to get more money out of taxpayers?”

This is pretty much every interest group. Any that makes demands on budgets or on policies. The other big chunk of groups just advocate for tax cuts (usually without laying out were budget/program cuts should come from and so are equally reckless.)

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by kennv on Nov 3, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Except the interest groups are, well self-interested.

These are government workers- they are nominally ‘public servants’.

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by dregarx on Nov 3, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

American workers have a right to organize. The problems with government employees unionizing really comes down to 2 things:

First, strikes. They shouldn’t be allowed to.

Second, and this is a bigger problem, is that collective bargaining is supposed to pit management against labor, with each side representing the interests of their respective sides. A problems with public employee unions is that they often have a big hand in electing government officials (through campaign contributions, “issue ads”, GOTV efforts, etc.) who then sit on the other side of the negotiation table. They often are basically just negotiating with themselves, which creates a real problem/conflict. That’s a reason a lot of government employees really have great benefits and pay, early retirement and ridiculous pensions (and when we start seeing these pensions go bankrupt, taxpayers are gonna bail them out, too).

Yes, a lot of public employees do difficult tasks (police, firefighters, teachers) but they’re often compensated far beyond what they’re worth.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 3, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

another big problem

rank and file getting elected to union posts and then fishing for management jobs

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by natteringnabob on Nov 3, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know of a single teacher, firefighter, or (most) cops that are compensated far beyond their worth.

As far as unions trying to elect government officials, isn’t that exactly what anyone who wants to affect policy change does? I’m pretty sure Lockheed, General Dynamics, Proctor & Gamble etc try to ensure their views are heard by those in power.

In my experience, most public sector jobs aren’t competitive in a straight wage situation, but do offer superior benefits.

by tyrannoman on Nov 5, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol Ralph Nader

  I’m doing zip car now. I’m definitely not saving as much money as I thought. I’m basically just not visiting my parents as much.

Sorry about your ordeal.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I actually love Ralph Nader

I’m a libertarian type, so some of his political views are pretty meh, but he’s dead on in his assessment of the two parties.

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Nov 3, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Ralph Nader too, I was just laughing at SHN embracing his status as the Ralph Nader of MCC.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Nov 3, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone search the internet for a bank worker’s union that is active in the United States. You will be the hero of millions of employees that are not allowed to unionize.

WHY IS BOCOCK?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

powder keg

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Nov 3, 2009 11:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

are you gonna put a counter on it during your upkeep?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Nov 3, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Build a bike

Probably get to your destination quicker. Refer to car vs. bike chase in the movie Quicksilver starring Kevin Bacon.

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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 3, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Except that the subway takes about 10 minutes to get to my destination other wise I would have had a bike a long time ago

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Union plumber here.

All I know is that my union saved my ass, but is now an anchor chained to my ankle.

    I took a job as a $6/hr laborer (Intel was building the first of three semiconductor fabs in the early 90s) and fifteen years later my wage is $30/hr. Which would be GREAT if I was actually earning that…but it’s a recession and this is a right – to – work state and I personally have no “buddies” to solicit work from and yadda yadda. But while it was good I began raising a son, and I’d be lying if I said I could have handled it all just fine on minimum wages.

   I can not and will not refute what a solid wage and amazing benefits are available to unionized workers yet I fully understand the term “profit margin” and how it’s destroying America as we grew up knowing it. I’d leave it but no potential employer looking at my fifteen year union resume thinks that I wouldn’t go back if something opened up.

   I’d be happy to take a pay decrease – I live pretty frugally – but I also know of others who bought big during the boom years and are suffering because of it. It’d be difficult to persuade them to…but time will tell. I myself am taking a non union job tomorrow – I’m sure I’m not the only one – which removes the problem of hitting the pension for hardship loans while lying to Arizona about it (UI benefits)

  I think your transit strikers must feel pretty good about their chances. I understand the unions on the East coast has been in place for an awful long time, and they have a pretty good grip there. Wholly different animal than what’s out here.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Nov 3, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Unions are a mixed bag.
As a teacher who specializes in the 3-5 age group I would make about $10-15 per hour with little or no benefits in the private [non-unionized] sector. In a unionized school district I make twice that and get full benefits.

Then again, how many teachers are there who should no longer be teaching, but they are protected by the union.

And yes, I agree, this is NOT the time to be going out on strike. When we were put to a strike vote last year I voted no.

by Merope on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Private schools require less education, however. Not agreeing or disagreeing with you, just adding that wrinkle to the cost equation.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Our tax dollars support public transit and various other government agencies. Union within government agencies seems like a strange idea to me. The end result is tax payer paying more money for the same services?

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW

by jctGamer on Nov 3, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Nov 3, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I feel your pain

When the NY MTA went on strike a few years ago I was kind of screwed, but luckily it didn’t last too long, and luckily it was right around Christmas, so I was able to get the heck out of dodge for vacation. Hopefully this doesn’t last too long in your neck of the woods.

I won’t even get into the union thing… positives and negatives abound, but when I think of the MTA and how unhelpful some of its employees are I cringe. And what’s up with the Philly subway? You have to swipe your card when you want to leave? Big WTF.

by sakbaum on Nov 3, 2009 4:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

LOL YOU

i know pretty much zilch about unions, but the SEIU has cool t shirts

by sfoakbay on Nov 3, 2009 4:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

3.2 miles ain't nothin

Methinks you should invest in a bike

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by stealth snail on Nov 3, 2009 7:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Could imagine it’s going to get too cold to walk or ride a bike in Philly soon.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Your commute = a little more than a 5k

Buy some running shoes! I personally wear Mizuno myself.

A bike would be less sweaty, even better if you have a place to stash it safely.

On a related note, I’d give my right eye to be able to work 5000m from my house.

by Ed Jew on Nov 3, 2009 7:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

One quick side note: I work and attend class in West Philly until 9 at night two nights of the week. Its basically a no walk zone outside my campus

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 3, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wear your Carlton Chronicles tee shirt.

Bike.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Nov 3, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was in the grocers union when I was in college—it was a good gig.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

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by greatgiantfan on Nov 5, 2009 5:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs


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