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"The squad consists of catcher Omir Santos (Mets), first baseman Travis Ishikawa (Giants), second baseman Chris Getz (White Sox), third baseman Gordon Beckham (White Sox), shortstop Elvis Andrus (Rangers), outfielders Chris Coghlan (Marlins), Andrew McCutchen (Pirates) and Nolan Reimold (Orioles), and pitchers Tommy Hanson (Braves) and J.A. Happ (Phillies)."

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not a great year for rookie 1B, huh

also LOL @ Santos over Wieters

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Nov 25, 2009 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Does 1B ever have a great rookie? Isn’t that kind of the place where adequate defenders elsewhere go when they can no longer adequately defend? IE, not very many good prospects are brought up playing first, right? (Howard and Fielder are the only ones I can think of)

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 25, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Teixeira and Helton, too.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Nov 25, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Will Clark was one.

For that matter, Willie McCovey.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Nov 25, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The following players have won the ROY as a first baseman

1947 – Jackie Robinson (huh!)
1950 – Walt Dropo
1958 – Orlando Cepeda (NL)
1959 – Willie McCovey (NL)
1971 – Chris Chambliss (AL)
1974 – Mike Hargrove (AL)
1984 – Alvin Dark (AL)
1987 – Mark McGwire (AL)
1991 – Jeff Bagwell (NL)
1992 – Eric Karros (NL)
2001 – Albert Pujols (NL)*
2005 – Ryan Howard (NL)

Bob Hamelin is the only ROY-winning DH.

  • - Pujols mostly played OF and 3B as a rookie, but he did play 43 games at 1B

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Nov 25, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

So a few, mostly people who are to thick to be mobile.

Kinda surprised by Tex.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 25, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

1984 — Alvin Davis
Alvin Dark was ROY in 1948 with the Boston Braves

by GiantFaninDodgerLand on Nov 25, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was a typo. And then because of the typo I put it in the wrong place. oops!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Nov 25, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

No way. Al Davis is way too old for that to be true.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 25, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa

So it wasn’t a typo!

Alvin Dark was a shortstop.

That was really confusing.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Nov 25, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking around the majors it appears that the following starting 1B spent their rookie year as 1B:

Casey Kotchman
Derek Lee
Joey Votto
Todd Helton
James Loney
Prince Fielder
Ryan Howard
Adam LaRoche
Adrian Gonzalez
Travis Ishikawa
Nick Johnson
Paul Konerko (split with other positions but 1B most innings)
Ryan Garko (1B/DH)
Billy Butler (1b/DH)
Kendry Morales
Justin Morneau
Mark Texeira
Jason Giambi (1B/3B split in first season, strictly 1B in second)
Carlos Pena
Chris Davis
Lyle Overbay

That’s 21 out of 30 that came to the majors as 1B, plus Albert Pujols played 43 games at 1B his rookie year (55 at 3B and 78 in the OF).

My Bucardo is better than yours.

A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

by Roger on Nov 26, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I was wrong!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 26, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, he still had his rookie eligibility? That surprises me somehow.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 25, 2009 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

Sure, why not.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 25, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

So, how does this affect his arbitration numbers?

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 25, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

He’ll get $650,000 rather than $450,000.

"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings

by SFGuy on Nov 25, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

NEEDS POLL!

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 25, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Childhood Baseball Card Memories

Does this mean he gets one of those little yellow pictures of a trophy in the lower right hand corner of his baseball card photo next season?

by VidaWantsYourCar on Nov 25, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

Yep

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 25, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

first thing I thought of too

Gary Alexander, maybe? That’s the only Giant I remember with one.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!

by natteringnabob on Nov 26, 2009 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Robby Thompson had one. I think I still have that card in my baseball card binder (which is at the bottom of a box in the closet).

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Nov 26, 2009 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

No love for the kid from the A’s I guess

by m34josh on Nov 25, 2009 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

How can you expect someone to remember anyone from the A’s?

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 25, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think they’re still talking about baseball.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 25, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The band that is playing in the Super Bowl.

"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings

by SFGuy on Nov 25, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Tommy can you hear me?

... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time

by shanghaijim on Nov 25, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Ishikawa!

Props.

co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA

by kennv on Nov 25, 2009 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

Videlol

The embedded video in that link mentions Topps has selected 16 future Hall of Famers in their 51 years of teams – “so these players’ future are looking bright.” Good guys.

co-dad w/AfDC of
Ishikawa, the Topps Rookie All Star Team's First baseman. Does he get a chance in 2010?

by kennv on Nov 25, 2009 7:24 PM PST reply actions  

To be fair the percentage is not 16/(9*51).

Since you have play 10 years in the bigs to be eligible for the HOF and be out of the game for 5 years. So the its more like 16 out of 36 years of team and that is still overestimating b/c of the players with 10+ years (A-Rob, Griffey, Shieffield as a SS!, Alomar, I-Rod, Knobloch, Bagwell, Kent, Lofton, Moise Alou,)

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 25, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

wat

Chris Dominguez: Bringing dingerz back to The Bay (In a while)
SCIENCE

by CB30 on Nov 25, 2009 11:57 PM PST reply actions  

this was my reaction. then i thought “wow, the other rookie 1b must have sucked this year.”

by quincy0191 on Nov 27, 2009 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Same here.

FREE BUSTER POSEY

by djp4cal on Nov 29, 2009 1:11 AM PST up reply actions  

/slider at Travis’ back foot

WHY IS BOCOCK?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 27, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

/Rowand swings

Desirous of Matt Holliday and Dan Uggla since 2009.

by GiantPain on Nov 29, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

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