Torrealba, who turned down a two-year, $4.5-million deal from the Rockies, is expected to receive an offer soon from the clubs that have called about him, including one from the NL West. I haven’t pinned down the NL West team, but the Giants make a lot of sense since they are expected to lose Bengie Molina and need someone they can trust if prospect Buster Posey needs more Triple-A seasoning.
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Scaredy cat!
I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.
by The Thrill on Nov 22, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd be okay with that.
Although he’s no Gregg Zaun.
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by jwizzle241 on Nov 22, 2009 10:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
His website isn't as cool!
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 22, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RUSH!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Nov 23, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bleh
It’s hard to envision a situation where Posey isn’t at least as good as Yorvit from day one and much cheaper.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t be up in arms.
Give -peace- Ryan Garko a chance.
by GiantPain on Nov 22, 2009 10:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well… CHONE has Yorvit 17 runs worse with the bat than Posey over 150.
So I could be legitimately angry if Sabean spends money on him.
Lethargy
It has me
by dregarx on Nov 22, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
it’s easy to envision a situation where he struggles for a couple of months, just because. Maybe he has the flu or pulls a hamstring. Or maybe he has a hard time adjusting to curve balls. Whatever.
I don’t know that Yorvit is the answer to all questions, but at least Botchy won’t bork him into the cleanup spot every game. Right?
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, he’s not coming here.
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by Natto on Nov 22, 2009 10:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wish I had your confidence.
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Nov 23, 2009 6:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YES NO MOLINA YES YES YES FINE FINE FINE FINE
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Nov 22, 2009 11:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
YOUR CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS BROKEN
also, +1. If it’s not molina, i’m happy.
"Snow woulda had it!!!"
Brandon Graham for President.
Pickles can definitely be the VP.
by beat_la_25 on Nov 23, 2009 7:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bengielitelight!
Fixed.
Lethargy
It has me
by dregarx on Nov 23, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’ll never happen.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm.....
He turned down 4.5 mil over 2 years? 2+ years and 4.5+ million on the books worry me. that means posey makes his debut sometime in 2013.
by funkydelivery on Nov 22, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think theres a chance that Sabean gives a different vet catcher a 2 year contract instead of just bringing Bengie back
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Nov 22, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie would make more in one year than Yorvit would make in two.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Nov 23, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
strange
but true
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Nov 23, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yorvit wants out of Cololrado. Reports have surfaced accusing Dinger of inappropriate advances…
by Merope on Nov 23, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
so they get rid of him, make one of the worst trades in baseball history to get his “replacement”, then re-sign him when he’s older and not as good as when they let him go. Giants Way!
You’d think someone would have brought up the irony in this situation before me. But nope, I am the first one who’s ever mentioned it. Ever.
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by bondslegend on Nov 22, 2009 11:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They Got Randy Winn for Him And Foppert At The Trade Deadline In 2005
Any way you cut it this was a good trade for the Giants and had nothing to do with the AJ trade.
by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 12:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that's why he's the first one who's ever mentioned it. Ever.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Nov 23, 2009 5:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See I'm actually not
that was irony!
(and that was sarcasm)
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by bondslegend on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
because if they kept Torrealba to be their catcher they wouldn’t have felt the need to trade for another one.
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by bondslegend on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but if you look at the Torrealba trade on it’s own, we won that trade. Acquiring Winn was a good move.
by Missing Barry on Nov 23, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Twas indeed
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by bondslegend on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Both AJ And Torrealba Were Giants For All Of 2004.
Torrealba was not traded until 2/3’s of a season after AJ was non tendored by the Giants. AJ was aquired in trade in 2003/4 offseason and non tendored in 2004/5 offseason while Torrealba was not traded until the 2005 trade deadline. These transactions had absolutely nothing to do with each other.
by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
presumably if the Giants felt that Torreabla could be the starter they wouldn’t have traded for AJ.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Nov 23, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is my point
but I don’t profess to have any deep understanding of baseball. I just thought it was funny.
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by bondslegend on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You Specificly Said "Replacement"
AJ never replaced Torrealba he replaced Santiago and was later repaced himself by Matheny. Torrealba’s role was as the backup catcher before, during, and for a while after AJ was a Giant. AJ never “repaced” Torrealba period.
by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well …maybe if they had kept Yorvit… they wouldn’t have drafted Posey.
by Merope on Nov 23, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GAH
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Nov 22, 2009 11:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I doubt it. There’s no way he gives a catcher a multi-year deal after he’s basically said that he doesn’t want to give Bengie one.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Nov 22, 2009 11:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that said
he’s probably a lot more amenable to the idea of being a backup than Bengie would be
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Nov 22, 2009 11:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They Why Did He Turn Down The Rockies Offer?
Nobody is going to pay him more to be a backup. If the Giants sign him it will be for him to start 2010 as the starter but with the understanding that he will likely end 2010 as Posey’s backup. This would likely be more playing time then he would get backing up Ianetta in Colorado from opening day on.
by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 12:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is how I see it as well. Yorvit starts out, but everybody understands that Buster is on his way, probably sooner rather than later. Of all the FA mistakes Sabean could make (and HAS made over the years) this isn’t even on my radar.
Officially disinterested in any outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
by Lyle on Nov 23, 2009 5:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree..
while Buster may indeed be physically ready,he may not be mentally ready. I’m not sure that you want to put that much pressure on him begining the second week of February 2010.
If it’s a one year deal, and you make Bolderskull sign an agreement in blood that Buster will get at least 50% of the playing time, this could work.
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
by nvsfg on Nov 23, 2009 8:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if Boulderskull signs such an agreement, there’s so much space up there in his noggin that it would take over half the season for all the correct synapses to fire in the correct order to allow him to realize what he’d signed.
Officially disinterested in any outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
by Lyle on Nov 23, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Officially disinterested in any outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
Undecided about the new sig.
/Wendell cries
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
by nvsfg on Nov 23, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NV
I should correct that to “Officially disinterested in any HIGH SCHOOL outfielders from the state of Mississippi.”
Let’s see….Arturo McDowell, Fred Lewis, Wendell Fairley… yeah, I’m still not interested.
Officially disinterested in any outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
by Lyle on Nov 24, 2009 5:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Bengie’s a lot more expensive. But 2/$4.5M is really expensive for a backup catcher. What is Yorvit thinking? I can’t imagine he winds up with a better deal than the one he turned down.
by taliesin on Nov 23, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yorvit Sometimes Makes Strange Decisions.
A few years ago he backed out of a deal with the Mets that would of paid him more then the deal he got with the Rockies. Seems he wants and needs to be comfortable with his role and or environment and he is no longer comfortable with one or the other in Colorado just like when he got cold feet about joining the Mets. For whatever reason he may just be more comfortable with the environment he expects in SF and may again be willing to take a lessor deal for this comfort.
by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like he has a mind of his own and doesn’t just listen to his agent’s “Go with whoever’s offering you the most money” advice. How weird.
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by Goofus on Nov 23, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's not what happened
it was the Mets who backed out, saying he failed the physical because of his shoulder. Yorvit filed a grievance against the Mets that has yet to be settled.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Nov 23, 2009 2:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If the Giants were to sign Yorvit, I think it would mean that he’ll start the season as the starter with Gerald coming up no earlier than July. I agree with jponry that he would be more amenable to being a backup.
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by SFGuy on Nov 23, 2009 12:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It bothers me
That we’d be paying Torrealba over 4M for, if everything goes according to plan, at most 3 months of starting. Paying backup catcher 2M+ a season would be another in the long list of reasons why the Giants can’t have nice things.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Nov 23, 2009 1:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Considering the team’s history of prospect washouts, especially in terms of hitters, doesn’t it make some degree of sense to take out a $2 million insurance policy? We all expect very goodness out of young Gerald, but there does remain that possibility that he doesn’t meet expectations.
I’d be okay with a low cost deal for Torrealba. More than 3mil, I’d be extremely disappointed.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 23, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have two respoonses to this
1) If Posey does indeed wash out, I;d like to think that he got, at the least, a full year of opportunity. In other words, we wouldn’t need “insurance” until next offseason, because Posey would be starting through his struggles. Of course, considering Posey’s age and promise, it would really take several seasons of sucking to completely disabuse us of his prospect status.
2) The only “insurance” Torrealba brings is that we’d have a really bad starting catcher instead of a replacement level one. I’d much rather spend that money at another position, one where it will benefit the team whether Posey starts or not. IMO, improving the team around Posey is better insurance than payiung alot of money for some schlub who we wouldn’t want to start anyway. If the Giants get Posey “insurance,” it should be someone making close to the league minimum on a one year deal. The Henry Blanco Memorial catcher caddy, if you will, not someone who will be payed like he should start, and will probably be somewhat miffed if he doesn’t.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Nov 23, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Respoonses is my new favorite word.
And I basically agree with both poonts.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a thing for dooble vowels.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Nov 23, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
boobs
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by Natto on Nov 23, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You win this round.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Nov 23, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2009 6:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting. Good points all around.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 23, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t mind having Torrealba if he came at the right price. If he’s turned down a 2 year $4.5M then he presumably won’t be as i wouldn’t want to pay him more than that (and i’m not sure I’d go that high).
There’s quite a few catchers out there and there’s not a huge amount of difference between then so I’d try and get one to a reasonable deal. Zaun would be the best of the candidates if we could sign him.
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by GiantFan on Nov 23, 2009 2:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
bleh
Best option is probably Zaun or Kendall, but I’d even rather roll with Posey/Whiteside than spend 5 mil that could be going to Nick Johnson or Mike Cameron on Yorvit.
Thing A
by sam23 on Nov 23, 2009 4:04 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
+1
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 23, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Yorvit, but they need a backup catcher, not a starter. Since he’s already turned down a decent contract offer from the Rockies, I’m going to assume that if the Giants’ top that, he’s coming in as the starter. As said before, that’s way too much money for a backup catcher. Then again, it’s half of what Bengie makes, and no way Bengie will come back if the Giants’ already have another catcher signed.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Nov 23, 2009 5:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If the giants are the nl west team they are talking about in this report, they better not offer yorvit a contract until Molina gets a new contract. What happens if we sign yorvit and them bengie doesn’t get the multi gear deal he’s looking for so he accepts arbitration. Now we’re stuck with two overpayed catchers.
by travis j bagdad on Nov 23, 2009 6:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If they sign Yorvit is there really any chance Bengie accepts arb to compete with Yorvit AND Buster?
Thing A
by sam23 on Nov 23, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants Are Not Signing Another Catcher Until Bengie Rejects Their Arbitration Offer
There is just no way I believe this could happen before then. The Giants will offer Bengie arbitration on December 1st and he has until the 7th to accept. Sometime after that is when the Giants will possibly sign someone like Torrealba.
by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I maintain my irrational love of Steve Holm.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Nov 23, 2009 6:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Steve Holm!
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are a good man.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 23, 2009 8:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sez the Rockies are looking at Brian Schneider to replace Yorvit … I’d rather just sign Schneider.
by Evan on Nov 23, 2009 6:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well Yorvit is the better hitter although Schneider is probably the better defender. Depends on their relative prices.
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by GiantFan on Nov 23, 2009 7:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies seem to think Schneider will be cheaper, since they’re allegedly kicking his tires because they can’t afford Yorvit.
Schneider has the advantage of being a lefty, which will make him better suited to share time with Posey.
by Evan on Nov 23, 2009 7:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And actually I’m not sure Torrealba is the better hitter. Schneider over the last three years has hit .240/.324/.347 while playing in extreme pitcher’s parks. Yorvit has hit .262/.322/.382 while playing in extreme hitter’s parks.
by Evan on Nov 23, 2009 8:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Schneider has put up park adjusted wOBA of .293, .320, .300 for the last 3 years whereas Torrealba has had park adjusted wOBA of .333, .313, .313 for the last 3 seasons.
It sounds like they’re kicking the tyres on Schneider to see if he’ll be available cheaply as Torrealba turned them down but there’s no guarentee that he’ll be any cheaper.
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by GiantFan on Nov 23, 2009 8:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure that he’s still bitter about the Matheny signing.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Nov 23, 2009 7:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah no kidding
First Sabean trades for Piersynkski when he could have just signed a cheap backup up for Yorvit,
then after the A.J experiment was over he signs Matheny to a 3 YEAR DEAL!
Then Yorvit is traded away a couple months into the season.
And, now Sabean has the best catcher in the minors and so Yorvit would know that he would just be a stopgap guy.
The more I think about it, I just can’t see how the Giants would seem like a good fit for Torealba, at least from his own perspective. Of course Sabean will probably pay him twice as much money as anyone else would, so I shouldn’t try and think to hard
by NateEveryday on Nov 23, 2009 7:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Yorvit had requested a trade. He must have felt pretty Frandseny.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Nov 23, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of can't believe Sabean & Co (Twiddle Dee Enterprises) would bring back Yovit.
He was involved in a more than one very pivotal personal decisions during the post ’02 Giants’ was deemed inadequate every time. To bring him back on a contract greater than what the Rockies are rumored to have offered would be a huge heaping helping off crow for Twiddle Dee Enterprises.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 23, 2009 9:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait for Sabean at the press conference
“We just couldn’t resist signing a catcher who hits almost .300. Guys like Yorvit are really really hard to find. And after watching Posey in Arizona, it was clear that he still needs a year or two in Fresno, so a two year deal with an option for Torrealba seemed like a safe bet.
We as a team are just lucky that Yorvit was still available in this market and he actually wanted to play in are ballpark.
by NateEveryday on Nov 23, 2009 7:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think you nailed it
Don’t forget that Manny Burriss was penciled in as the starting SS for 2009, until he looked bad defensively in the AFL. Then they panicked and signed Edgar Renteria. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Posey’s struggles in the AFL this year have convinced them he’s not ready.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Nov 23, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason, this reminds me of an old Dilbert, where the pointy-haired boss is holding his staff meeting, and reading some announcements…
“There will be no raises this year, due to declining profits for the company.”
“Next, the company is doing a great this year! Good job to you all!”
“Um, Carol? I thought I told you to put another line item in between those two announcements.”
I just feel like this could be Sabean.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 23, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, was that your flashforward too? Just like mine!
Officially disinterested in any outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
by Lyle on Nov 23, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
:-(
I don’t like this team anymore.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 23, 2009 8:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Always look on the white side of life
doo-doo, doo-doo, doo-doo, doo-doo
Give -peace- Ryan Garko a chance.
by GiantPain on Nov 23, 2009 8:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dudes, Giants did not make an offer
The poster speculated on that.
I think a much better bet would be the Dodgers. Yorvit is no starter, he is a backup, but a backup who can play a lot games too. Ausmus is in his 40’s and they just let him go as their backup. There is also worry that Martin might be being worn out at C, that they might move him to 3B to rest him more, which means that they need to play the backup more. Yorvit has played more than backup with the Rockies for most of his years there.
Also, another better bet is the Padres. They don’t have a full-time starter but a young guy who is probably going to share a lot of playing time with the backup, like they did in 2009. Blanco was the guy previously, but perhaps they want an upgrade? In any case, he’s no longer under the Padres employ, plus he’ll be 38 next year while Yorvit would only be 31. Hundley is young but wasn’t that good in the minors (certainly not like Posey) or in the majors the past two years. They need a strong backup who could possibly start if Hundley does not improve in 2010, or worse,
Those two are much better bets for giving Yorvit a two-year contract, than the Giants.
All you people are doing are showing your bias against Sabean.
Neukom: sign up Sabean for another two years!
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Nov 23, 2009 8:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
SABEAN BIAS!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 23, 2009 8:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SABRMETRICS wBIAS
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 8:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Nov 23, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t hotlink large images!
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by SFGuy on Nov 24, 2009 1:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t trying to hide my bias.
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Nov 23, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither.
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Nov 23, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can of bias!
Officially disinterested in any outfielders from the state of Mississippi.
by Lyle on Nov 23, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder who this post is addressed to. The link said some NL west team is after Torrealba and suggested it might be the Giants. We discussed it and everyone said it doesn’t seem like a good fit but it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Somehow this reflects a bias against Sabean.
by Evan on Nov 23, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah wonderful
We hadn’t been accused of anti-Sabean bias in awhile.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Nov 23, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/crosses legs
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Nov 23, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
/sees more bias than she wanted to during the leg cross
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And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
by can of corn on Nov 23, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL SMALL BIAS!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 23, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lars can’t even cross his legs because the size of his bias gets in the way.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a tripod.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 23, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More like a quadruped.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t USED to be biased against Sabean, but… Maybe if he didn’t make lousy free agent acquisitions after lousy trade, I’d be less biased against him.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 23, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The more I read this, the better it gets. The Dodgers are the logical destination for Torrealba because he’s a backup, not a starter, and they’re looking for a backup. Also, they might be looking for a starter instead, and Torrealba can also be a starter! I don’t know how you dudes can be too blind to see that.
The Padres are also a logical destination for Torrealba because they’re breaking in a young catcher, so they need a veteran backup who might have to play a lot if the young guy isn’t ready. But the Giants make no sense for Torrealba, because our situation is nothing like that!
And furthermore, any discussion of a rumor linking the Giants to Torrealba is clearly a sign of anti-Sabean bias! Because Brian Sabean would never do something like, uh, sign a veteran free agent! No way! C’mon, sheeple — think for yourselves!
by Evan on Nov 23, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OGC IS OUR LORD!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s an unfortunate acronym.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Open Geospatial Consortium?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For the betterment of society.
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Nov 23, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MONEY SHOULD BE FREE!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 23, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THEY STILE MY DOG!!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Real footage of Sabean at the GM meetings a couple weeks ago!!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 23, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
STICK IT TO THE MAN
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Nov 23, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Reality has an anti-Sabean bias…
by Missing Barry on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
nice
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Dodgers sign a guy linked to the Giants
can it be Jermaine Dye? Plz.
by Gobroks on Nov 23, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ohmygodyes.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Nov 23, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to be biased for Sabean. Sadly, his inability to construct a bad offense (remember, this offense is mind-bogglingly terrible) precludes that. So I am stuck with my bias going the other direction.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Nov 23, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GINATS BIAS!!111!!!
GITRDUNN GINAS BIAS!
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Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna make a joke about how to prevent this. Then I realized it was in bad taste and that I would probably get a visit from DHS.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 8:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Guy Guys. This is all trivial.
ESPN’s number one story right now. Charlie Batch to have wrist surgery!
by DFAAurillia on Nov 23, 2009 8:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was shocked
to see his name in the paper… Is Eric Hipple or Joe Gilliam his backup? Sheesh.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Nov 23, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So what you’re saying is that he might end up being ourvit after all!
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 9:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
by esseffgeez on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ourvit, ourvit, ourvit again
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Nov 23, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t see a reason to sign a C to a 2 year deal. I like the idea of bringing in a cheap guy to start the season – I’d like us to delay Buster’s arb clock to keep him away from Super Two status, so the concept makes sense. I just don’t see a logical argument for it to be more than a 1 year contract. The guys gonna get relegated to backup status for the 2nd half of the season (at least), paying a backup C money is not money well spent, and if Posey has problems it means we can reevaluate the situation again next offseason and decide if we should go for a real C instead.
by Missing Barry on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
For some sentimental reasons, I like Yorvit, but not more than 2 years 4.5 mil. That makes me not like Yorvit. I would be ok rolling the the great White/Posey hype next season and save that 5 mil to go get someone we really need, like Johnson.
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by scout6 on Nov 23, 2009 10:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You can get a lot of Johnson with 5 million.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 23, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ISWYDT
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
by esseffgeez on Nov 23, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I want me some johnson
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Nov 23, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wait..
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 23, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and you wonder why people think you are “THE” openly gay poster of McC
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 23, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s obviously all just to make molina get all sensitive and think we don’t want him so he declines arbitration and we get picks from the mets. genius work by sabean if you ask me.
FREE BUSTER
by TimLincecumIsGod on Nov 23, 2009 1:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
http://chrishaft.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/giants_eyeing_torrealba.html
don’t know if this was posted yet btw, but it seems that it is the giants who are interested.
FREE BUSTER
by TimLincecumIsGod on Nov 23, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just shows Haft’s bias against Sabean!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Nov 23, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.
Lead story on the team page, pic of Yorvie in a Giants uniform, confirmation by his agent about the Giants’ interest…looks like this is happening.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
by esseffgeez on Nov 23, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn. Haft is now saying it
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 23, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Haft-baked ideas" indeed!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Nov 23, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haft's update really doesn't make sense
If the Giants are going after Yorvit, they have to be offering better than 2 yrs 4.5
Why?
With that kind of commitment, and Bochy on board for 2 years as well, I am certain that Posey gets minimal playing time. This, and the AFL B.S. tell me that the Giants have no idea what to do when a genuine hitter prospect falls into their laps. Jeebus, it almost makes me think it’s a good thing we haven’t had any of those, all these years!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Nov 23, 2009 4:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I guess so, if you’re willing to pay for designer baby clothes.
Personally, I don’t think the kid knows the difference.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to signing Ivan Rodriguez to a 1 yr deal to mentor Posey?
Did that plan just kinda go away
by Gobroks on Nov 23, 2009 5:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We’re most likely just ticking the tyres on all of the available catchers and am sure we’ve expressed interest in him as well. Just because Torrealba happens to make it to the press doesn’t mean that we’re only looking at him.
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by GiantFan on Nov 23, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
by Norm Median on Nov 23, 2009 5:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is not a good idea. Next.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Nov 23, 2009 7:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
is it possible....
that sabean is just kicking the tires here and doing his due diligence. remember, next year we need to just have a more reliable 1-5 whether its with a velez-torres platoon in left, sanchez, sandoval and then 2 other hitters 4-5. (i’ve heard him describe this scenario 25 times since the end of last season and can’t believe velez is actually penciled in as our lead-off hitter in left field).
by mark30perq3 on Nov 23, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Torrealba the tapper
He taps the plate everytime he wants the pitcher to come in with a low pitch. How dumb is that. Forget Torrealba, be thinking Jessica Alba.
by bradleybear on Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We should have resigned Benito and kept Nathan
period.
by bradleybear on Nov 23, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
bringing this doofus back makes no sense whatsoever. good riddance. probably throw $60 mil / 5 years at him like scott rownad.
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Nov 24, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, what did Torrealba ever do to you?
by Missing Barry on Nov 24, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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