10-min news segment on AnVil legal case

Could someone provide a quick translation or recap?

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Nov 22, 2009 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

FREE of charges

Absolved of the crime

by wilriv21 on Nov 22, 2009 4:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Are You Guessing (Hoping)?

Or do you speak Spanish well enough to know?

by giantsrainman on Nov 22, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I do not however asked my mother who is fluent in spanish and she said Villalona has been absolved of the crime.

I know enough to get a pina colada and a lady.

The heading “Angel Villalona libre de culpa” roughly translates to "Angel Villalona free of fault.

Adios

by wilriv21 on Nov 22, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Could This Not Just Be Civil Which We Already Know?

Could not the criminal charges still be pending?

by giantsrainman on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I asked that question and she said he is free of charges and fault. With that in mind would expect him to be getting a visa soon. Maybe we can coin him a new nickname? How about OJ ?

by wilriv21 on Nov 22, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The hawt newscaster said “el joven sale libra de toda culpa,” which I’m pretty sure means ‘the kid was freed from all guilt.’ It sounds like he got off.

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Nov 22, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Si

by wilriv21 on Nov 22, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

There was probably a better choice of words than your last six.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Nov 23, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

How 'bout

“He used bonus to get off”

by wilriv21 on Nov 23, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Still sounds dirty.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2009 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Would anyone like a banger in the mouth?

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That reference is lost on howie

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Nov 23, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess here in the states you say ‘a sausage in the mouth’.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Nov 23, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Have you lit up any fags lately?

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Nov 23, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No, we just say "sausage">

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by Natto on Nov 23, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I KNOW RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Nov 23, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh ResDog, you blowhard.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Nov 23, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I just blue myself.

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by Natto on Nov 23, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

ll be your wingman. Even if it means me taking a chubby, I will suck it up!

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Nov 24, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

if he's found free of guilt

in a civil suit, there’s no way he would be found guilty in a criminal one.

Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 23, 2009 3:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Are you sure?

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OJ being a prime counter example.

As a fan I’ve never faced a situation like this. It seems like there’s a likelihood that he made choices that led to a man’s death, but I can’t with 100% certainty that he pulled the trigger. It is possible that he was fingered simply b/c AV was the most wealthy and famous person there. We will never know.

if he’s reinstated and begins to live up to the hype, how would you feel about supporting Villalona as a Giant?

by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Nov 23, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OJ WAS FOUND GUILTY IN A CIVIL COURT!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

But Not Guilty In A Criminal Court!

The point that is being made makes the mistake of assuming DR civil courts are like US civil courts with a lower standard of proof then a criminal court. If the civil case was dismissed in a US civil court it would indeed be a reasonable assumption that there would be almost no chance of a guilty finding in a criminal court. However, apparently in the DR this is not true as many times false charges are filed in both courts just to attempt to get money from the one being charged. This money has now been paid. If the criminal case proceeds and he is convicted then and only then should we believe that he is guilty. Otherwise we should jsut believe that this was all about the money.

by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I believe murder charges are filed whether or not the victims kin approve

Are the results of Civil Suits are inadmissible in criminal court? Also he OJ doesn’t fit what he said

if he’s found free of guilt

in a civil suit, there’s no way he would be found guilty in a criminal one.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I Am Not Sure Where You Think We Disagree?

Maybe you should re-read my comment above and tell me where you think I got it wrong not where you think SLFTO or WTM got it wrong.

by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t agree with the civil and criminal courts being associated in America, especially for capitol offenses.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The You Did Not Understand What I Was Saying

I am talking about the burden of proof being different. If the lower standard of burden of proof found in the civil courts is not be met then how would it be reasonable to expect that the higher standard of burden of proof found in the criminal courts would be met?

by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m thinking in terms of the family/victim being paid off.

I agree with what you said in terms of quality of evidence.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The Question Is - Bribe Or Extortion?

Frankly we have no idea which applies and boht appear to be common in the DR.

by giantsrainman on Nov 23, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Get him the hell out of there and don't look back.

"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry

by victor frankenstein on Nov 23, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You might not be 100% certain OJ pulled the trigger, but if you go back and read about all the evidence against him, I think you’ll find you can be certain beyond a reasonable doubt…

by Missing Barry on Nov 23, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

BUT THE GLOVE!!
IT DIDN’T FIT OVER ANOTHER GLOVE!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If Chewbacca lives on Endor, then you must acquit!

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Nov 23, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m certain that OJ was a murderer. I was referring to Angel in the second paragraph. I failed to make myself clear.

I only brought up OJ as an example that one could be found guilty in one of the trials and not the other. I guess this is the opposite of what’s mentioned above, but still I think it’s possible for one to be found guilty in a criminal trial even though they settled civil charges with the family.

Back to Angel … I really don’t think they had much of a case beyond eyewitnesses many of which are no longer in play.

Check out this link.

http://dominicanbaseballguy.blogspot.com/2009/11/angel-villalona-update.html

Blog of a grad school student who follows Dominican baseball. I don’t know how accurate his info is, but if it is the prosecution really wouldn’t seem to have much to go on.

A couple things I found interesting.

1. The writers point about extortion in the DR being rampant and the payoff not necessarily being a sign of guilt.
2. Can’t find the gun and can’t even prove Angel ever owned a gun
3. Seat fight as the only motive

Seems like a pretty difficult case for the prosecution by American standards at least.

by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Nov 23, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m 100% certain that OJ did not pull the trigger since he used a knife to kill those two people.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

With my limited Spanish, that’s how I understood it as well but ????

If all the charges were really dropped against him, wouldn’t it have been reported as such by now?

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Nov 23, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Organization and efficiency values:

Dominican Republic<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Giants<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Everyone else

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Mental note to add in last will and testament:

Please do not bury me with a Kangol on

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 22, 2009 5:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

You’ve got to look good.

Bay City Ball

by xanthan on Nov 22, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Top hat it is, then.

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 22, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

With or without the monocle?

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 22, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Check the avatar =========>

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 22, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I’ll take that as a ‘with’.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I want a Box back coat and a stetson hat, (John D, that is)

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Nov 23, 2009 7:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That man could play.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 23, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

if we were to be do a top 10 songs OT post, that one would be on mine.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Nov 23, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I prefer a pint of cold hard booze with my Stetson

Bleeding orange and black since 1987

by TehGreekStallion on Nov 23, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Why can’t our newscasters be that hot..

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Nov 22, 2009 5:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

they can be if they are Latina or Asian

by wilriv21 on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

ahem

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Woah. That’s not Dan Rather.

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Nov 22, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ay dios mio!

by Ed Jew on Nov 22, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Move to LA

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Nov 23, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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by Natto on Nov 23, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

At first, I was like ‘WTF is Cheech doing moonlighting as a lawyer in the DR’?

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 22, 2009 10:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I really hope this is true.

I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.

by The Thrill on Nov 22, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Still not sure

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/other_mlb/view/20091116victims_family_asks_judge_to_drop_angel_villalona_case/srvc=home&position=recent"

I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.

by The Thrill on Nov 22, 2009 10:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

That’s old news. This segment seems much more recent, and is presenting new information.

Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball

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by haverecords on Nov 23, 2009 12:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The video is from around the same time as the article, but the AP story was fairly late to get out, compared to things posted here, and latin media, so it still may be newer. In any case, the language of ‘libra de toda culpa’ seems contrary to the ap report.

Prospective parent of new pick, Zack Wheeler. Projectable Righty stolen from the braves. Of course, I stalk my son's myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zackwheelerbaseball

"Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one."--Brian Wilson

by haverecords on Nov 23, 2009 12:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Huh

If you thought I learned something in four years of Spanish class, you’d be wrong.

by kimmyg on Nov 23, 2009 2:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking the same thing!

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by NuschlerFace on Nov 23, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He claimed suffering from the Battered Batters Syndrome

Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 23, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

A few details

The problem is that even though the family asked the judge to drop charges the prosecutor is determined not to let it go and now that Angel´s visa has been rejected, I am not sure what we can expect from him this winter. In reference to the phrase libre de toda culpa, which does translate free from all guilt, that was used from the video it was mentioned by the reporter but what was said was that the family of the person who was killed will not be going after Angel and will not be assisting in any investigation persued by the prosecutor. So the government will have to continue with the investigation without the assistance of the family who simply made a statement saying that Angel was not the murderer. In all likelihood the whole case will probabably fall by the wayside with the deal that was made…however will Angel get a visa if he is not officially declared innocent?

by jbpeterson on Nov 23, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs