This guy gets it

Wow, it's interesting to see an outsider put down into words pretty much everything we at McCovey Chronicles are hoping for. We are not alone.

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Eh, that’s not really what I’m hoping for.

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by jponry on Nov 20, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The parts about what we should do with the parts we already have is good but is saying “The Giants should sign one of the two best free agents on the market!” really that wild a thing to say? You could say that about any team in baseball.

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by jponry on Nov 20, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Not the Yankees

The Yankees should sign both of them.

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by groug on Nov 20, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

NOW you’re talkin’.

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by Johnny Disaster on Nov 20, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and they will

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by rxmeister on Nov 20, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That commentary certainly was in my face.

by chilibean_3 on Nov 20, 2009 3:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I’m really hoping Schierholtz improves on his .302 OBP. He was doing OK before the DL time, after which he didn’t play regularly.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Nov 20, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Don't hold your breath

He walked about 5% of the time in the minors.

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by jcb9 on Nov 20, 2009 10:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He also had OBP’s around .360 his last two seasons in the minors. If we get half that, he’d be acceptable. And really, he’d just have to not slump to .267 to attain that.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Nov 21, 2009 2:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That was almost entirely sustained by BA though. I think the full season stats on Nate (just as with Velez) are a pretty good snapshot of what we should have expected from him. The issue of his irregular playing time causing his numbers to go down, though, is really a macguffin. It was his PH numbers that caused his stats to look as good as they did last year.

As a sub Nate hit .339/.354/.435
As a starter he hit .247/.288/.390

It seems entirely likely to me that sticking him out there every day down the stretch would have made his overall numbers more putrid, not less.

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by Roger on Nov 21, 2009 7:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, keep in mind our AAA team is a pretty nice place for hitters – stats in the Pacific Coast League inflate batting performances.

by Missing Barry on Nov 21, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He advocates playing Lewis in right field.

Which makes for TWO bad reads.

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by multiphasic on Nov 20, 2009 3:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

umpbump's comments

It’s pretty obvious the writer of the article on the Giants doesn’t really follow them with any regularity. Fred Lewis has a pretty sweet swing, but his defense is awful. I’ve seen him in right field and he looked completely lost and his approach in left field is not much better. I don’t have the answer in how to improve his fielding.

If you looked at the stats, Garko seemed like he would fit in, but then if you watched his presence at the plate… it was not very impressive.

As for signing Bay or Holiday ( I don’t think he wants to come to AT&T anyway), I say forget them. I know what Sabean said about not trading, but I would keep the door open for any opportunity.

I think Neukom is going to have to bump it up a little, maybe not over 100 million, but over 90… I know what they’ve said, but they have the money. Let’s just spend it more wisely than we did with Rowand and Zito.

The team needs two more with good to high on base percentage with some punch. I know there out there. The question is; what will it take to get them?

Sign Penny, just use some imagination in writing the contract.

by Buzzword on Nov 20, 2009 3:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

oh noes...

/ducks and covers

by Merope on Nov 20, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it resumes…

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by Giant among Angels on Nov 20, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ugh, the non-sarcastic Fred Haters are making there way over here now? Do you know what kinda of fielders LF and RF are populated with? Bums like Carlos Lee, Raul Ibanez, Adam Dunn. Lewis might look terrible fielding, but with his speed, he’s actually above average. (That said, I do have hesitations throwing Fred in RF at AT&T)

by Missing Barry on Nov 20, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously, I have reservations whenever someone new tries to play out there.

by Merope on Nov 20, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So You Want To Re-Sign Randy Winn?

by giantsrainman on Nov 20, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t trust him when he first took over the position either.

by Merope on Nov 20, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Although Cruz looked pretty slick out there.

by Buzzword on Nov 20, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Remember te Bonds-Benard-Burks outfield?

I don’t recall much bitching then.

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by Bhaakon on Nov 20, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You don’t remember bitching about Bernard’s defense?

My Bucardo is better than yours.

by Roger on Nov 21, 2009 7:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure, and his contract too.

After his hitting fell off.

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by Bhaakon on Nov 21, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

In 99 And 2000 (When we also had Burks) Not So Much.

2001 and later absolutely.

by giantsrainman on Nov 21, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I wish the Giants would just trade Lewis, so I never have to hear the pro/anti FLew discussions again.

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by Useful_Idiot on Nov 20, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Neither He Or You Get It.

by giantsrainman on Nov 20, 2009 5:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The Lewis vs. Schierholtz Conundrum

The whole Lewis v Nate thing is pretty fascinating and the answer always seems to come down to defense. Stats people seem to think that Lewis’ defense is not bad but Giants fans who watch the games think they’re nuts.

Personally I think the debate is more about a fan’s values. Lewis is undoubtedly more talented and athletic. But he just doesn’t seem to care. Schierholtz might not be able to tell a fastball from a slider but he’d probably give his first born to be able to.

As a fan I put so much feeling into my team that I become enraged at players who don’t care. That’s why watching Lewis flounder makes me sick.

by Change Up on Nov 20, 2009 6:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

the answer always seems to come down to defense

I can’t agree with that. Lewis is a proven hitter at the MLB level, Schierholtz is not. Also, keep in mind the “stats people” do watch Giants games, too, we completely understand where fans are coming from with Fred’s defense. He makes mistakes all the time and will generally do things regularly that drive a fan crazy. I don’t blame anyone for disliking that. It’s just frustrating because the normal fan doesn’t even give thought to what makes Lewis above average – because it really is the fact that his peers are really, really bad. When Lewis takes a terrible route to a ball – most of his peers could take a perfect route, and they’d have the same chance of getting there as Lewis after his figure-8 path. These guys are bad. Good hitters who are bad at defense get stuck at 1B or corner OF. This is a very important point that many fans just don’t think about when they see Lewis drop a routine fly ball.

by Missing Barry on Nov 20, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol projecting

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by jponry on Nov 20, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Stats people seem to think that Lewis’ defense is not bad but Giants fans who watch the games think they’re nuts.

I don’t.

Personally I think the debate is more about a fan’s values. Lewis is undoubtedly more talented and athletic. But he just doesn’t seem to care. Schierholtz might not be able to tell a fastball from a slider but he’d probably give his first born to be able to.

a) So you’d rather have a dumb, bad gamer than a good player? Hi, Brian.
b) “But he just doesn’t see to care.” I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: baseball isn’t our national pastime: coming up with vague, unsubstantiated reasons to bash Fred Lewis is.

c) “As a fan I put so much feeling into my team that I become enraged at players who don’t care. That’s why watching Lewis flounder makes me sick.” HI GUYS MY COMPLETELY UNSUPPORTED AND SUBJECTIVE EVALUATION OF THE MOTIVATIONS OF A MAN I HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO = PLAYER ANALYSIS.

Fucking a. I don’t mean to be rude, despite the RAGE meme, but this is a terrible comment.

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by jcb9 on Nov 20, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 20, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs