Tim Lincecum Wins Cy Young
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 19, 2009 11:01 AM PST
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PrintNovember 19, 2009From: The BBWAA
To: The World
Re: Cy YoungTim Lincecum is better than everyone else. Please make a note of this.
Two full seasons, two Cy Youngs. That's two more than Juan Marichal. One more than Orel Hershisher, Eric Gagne, Fernando Valenzuela, and Mike Scott, all of whom can eat hot death.
Tim Lincecum: Cy Young Award winner. Again. You'd think that we'd be jaded because he won it last year. Nope. Still pretty danged exciting. Congrats, Tim.
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YES!!!
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis. To pass the time during the offseason I decided to try my hand at blogging about photography and music.
by j14 on Nov 19, 2009 11:02 AM PST reply actions 44 recs
Ya put the Boom Boom into my heart!
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Nov 19, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Rec'd
This is correct in a variety of ways.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I like how the SF on Tim’s head changes.
"Vhet ere-a zee oodds Booster Pusey ifer pleys fur zee Geeunts?"
"He-a vun’t pley unteel he-a gets sume-a mejur leegooe-a ixpereeence-a."
Looking back, the 2 hours it took to make that were very well spent.
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
WOOHOO
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 11:02 AM PST reply actions
Suck it, Russell Martin.
Why the hell not?!
by younghutch on Nov 19, 2009 11:02 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
SUCK IT
Russell J Martin
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
One of the few to have appreciated Cap'n Jax. Do well in NC, get that 8th seed!
Conductor of the "We're Back!" Bandwagon!
YOU KNEW THE WHOLE TIME? AND YOU DIDN’T TELL US?
FUCK YOU!
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:03 AM PST reply actions
Grant, in all seriousness you should post the losing story for fun.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
No losing story. I frantically put this up after the Twitter thing from the CSN guy.
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 19, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
TIMMY!
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
SAD FARM ANIMAL BAND!!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 19, 2009 11:03 AM PST reply actions
Weed for everyone!
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 19, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Weed then Choco Tacos!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
That is the proper order.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Real pros eat choco tacos laced with weed
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Real pros lace their weed with choco tacos.
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 19, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
This is going to throw the AZ Snakepit moralists into such a rage.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 19, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
The wins stat has become obsolete.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Accidental Genius!
THE BEST KIND!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
YESSSSS
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
so… um… we are the champions, my friends. we’ll keep on fighting til the end. we are the champions, we are the champions, no time for losers cuz we are the champions of the world.
also… EVERYBODY DANCE!!!!!!!
"Snow woulda had it!!!"
Brandon Graham for President.
Pickles can definitely be the VP.
Hammerzeit ist die beste Zeit!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I believe you're going for
natürlich
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Timmy Wins! Everyone Dance!
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Nov 19, 2009 11:04 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Just got out of a meeting
And all I can say is: WOOT!
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
I believe this is appropriate
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I’m a n00b, and am not exactly sure how to/where to find them. But if I could, this is where I would insert the “Und now is the time on Sprockets when we dance.” GIF.
z
LOL
1st 2nd 3rd Points
Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants 11 12 9 100
Chris Carpenter, St. Louis Cardinals 9 14 7 94
Adam Wainwright, St. Louis Cardinals 12 5 15 90
Javier Vazquez, Atlanta Braves 1 3
Dan Haren, Arizona Diamondbacks 1 1
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:05 AM PST reply actions
WAYNRITE WUZ ROBED
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Not really. Basically shows that about 40% of the voters still think “WINZ” are everything, and half of them think that WINZ are overrated.
People who don't like pot smokers
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 19, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Or people who
want to protect the sanctity of the game of baseball and not sully give it’s awards by giving them out to dope smokers.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 19, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
TEH MARIJUANA IS EVIL!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 19, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
The pot thing came after they had already voted, and that would be a stupid fucking reason anyways.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
True.
and, true.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 19, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
But there are people who think Bonds shouldn't be in the HoF
and I am sure a decent number of them are BBWAA members.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 19, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Really though, it is indefensible
and those writers should be publicly mocked for their lack of intelligence.
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 19, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
watershed moment
you have to figure that keeps going in favor of “overrated” from here on out
and this is the lowest number of wins ever for a cy winner, right?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
BUT I DONT WANT TO LOOK LIKE A HOMER SO I’M VOTING FOR SOMEONE ELSE
F. the Lewis.
by calpolynate on Nov 19, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
How is it that Wainwright got the most 1st place votes? LOL.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
Vazquez vote was for second
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Keith Law was the voter. His reasoning: wins are over-rated, the Cards’ infield D was redonkulous, and innings pitched.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
....Javier Vazquez??
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
but not the best
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
He got 1 second place Vote
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Keith Law?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
haha i like the one first place vote for vasquez. nice.
"Snow woulda had it!!!"
Brandon Graham for President.
Pickles can definitely be the VP.
the formatting is fucked. He got a second place vote
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
wow
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe people who really love innings pitched.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
WHERE’S JORGE DE LA ROSA??
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Thanks for that
Now I don’t have to go look up the voting.
Yeahhhh Timmeh!!!
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Nov 19, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
LOL Snakepit
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
by shanghaijim on Nov 19, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
oops
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
LOL SNAKE PIT
Still think Haren is better than Lincecum?
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 19, 2009 11:05 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Awesome. Andrew WK is crazy. And where is Andrew WK?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
So awesome
A whole lifetime of no Giant Cy Youngs, and now two in a row. I could get used to this!
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
another no hitter next year?
C’mon, Sanchez! Make it a perfecto!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
/still hates uribe
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
JUAN URIBE
AS I SUSPECTED
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Nov 19, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
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Who was the Raider wide receiver who did the Carlton dance as his touchdown celebration? It’s my favorite td celebration of all time.
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t watch anything with the Raiders.
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Someone needs to make this one with less frames
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Correct.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Adam Wainwright finished third with 90 despite getting the most first-place votes with 12.
WTF voters
Nobody likes money
Lord, that’s a lot of images already.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
I only have about 3 b/c the VA blocks them all
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
where can I buy this VA
sounds handy
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Nov 19, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Not until after arb
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
wow, is the BBRAA finally starting to get a fucking clue?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 19, 2009 11:07 AM PST reply actions
Not in terms of who was actually the best pitcher in 2009. This should have been similar to the Greinke vote.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Can someone explain WPA? I noticed on fangraphs that Carpenter is ahead of Lincecum using that stat:
WPA: Starters
Zack Greinke 6.07
Chris Carpenter 5.41
Tim Lincecum 4.26
Justin Verlander 4.19
Adam Wainwright 3.60
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
Tim Carpenter had a very good statistical year. Arguably the best.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
Almost as good as Chris Carpenter and Tim Lincecum.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
WPA isn’t that great for pitchers, especially starters. Here is a basic overview.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
it’s Win Probability Added, a leverage based stat. So if you hit a homerun in a close game, it adds more WPA to the game than in a blow out.
There’s not much reason to use it for starting pitchers.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Not really
WAR, 1st and 2nd in each league:
Greinke – 9.4
Verlander – 8.2
Timmy – 8.2
Vazquez – 6.6
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I guess you’re an “only FIP matters” guy. I don’t get that — the award is specifically about rewarding a guy for what he’s done, not what he would have done in a world of perfect abstraction.
Well
if a guy’s defense fucks him over, that’s not his fault, but he could easily get negative marks for it.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
If you think a pitcher has no effect on the defense, yes.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
There is some interrelationship.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Just like Zach Greinke who purposefully pitched for flyballs at home, and yet had a lower FB% there than on the road.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
So you admit there is some effect.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
for some pitchers, yup. It’s pretty rare, though.
Barry Zito is probably one of them.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I’m not 100% sure what you’re driving at, but if you’re asking whether or not the pitcher plays defense, yes he does. Just not very often and the spread of talent isn’t that great.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I think he’s driving at whether pitcher can have some control over their BABIP.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I'd like to know this too
I’m signing starters for my dynasty league and could get him cheap
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
he’s getting slightly overpaid for last year, especially considering in our league it’s QS/ERA/K for pitchers. In a perfect scenario he only helps in 2 of those categories.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Fucked if I know
I doubt he’ll have another season this good, but I’d guess he’ll retain some of the improvements he made.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
BBRAA?
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Eastern rite, or Latin?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Baseball Riders
The underground fetishist awards voters.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Schulman must feel like an idiot. He tried to be objective and most people still who actually were thought he was wrong.
His article made quasi-sense
But he really should have weighted IP and K’s a lot more!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
This
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Nov 19, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
YEAH TIMMEH
When’s the press conference?
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
2PM, streamed here: http://bit.ly/3roR1X
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
i fucking love tim lincecum
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Probably NL Central writers
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
FUCK YEAH!!!!
oh lord I’m so freaking happy for him its freaking amazing. I was so nervous that carpenter was going to beat him but NOPE! Again the greatest won!!! fucking a I’m so excited
please giants...don't make me cry like I did in 02....
Well Timmy...you make me cry tears of joy.
The BBWA DID SOMETHING RIGHT!~
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
TIMMY!
First repeat winner since Randy Johnson’s last win in 2002!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I hate how ESPN tries to hard to be clever
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Oh dear… all sorts of Photoshop magic can be used to insert other players and animals doing horrible things to Timmy.
by Every6thDay on Nov 19, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
'Taint No Joke: Lincecum Wins Cy
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 19, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 15 recs
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Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
You could spin it and say he’s executing a roundhouse kick, perhaps to Suck It Russell J Martin’s head.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Someone please photoshop this.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Hmm
“Both Bay Area writers who had votes, myself and Paul Gutierrez of the Sacramento Bee, placed Lincecum second on our ballots behind Carpenter” – Sir Henry
Sacramento’s part of the Bay Area? I think not. That’s twice you’ve fucked up, Henry—and it ain’t even noon yet.
"El once, chico. Eleven."
Schulman was going to exclude the Sac Bee from the Bay Area, but didn’t want to seem like a homer so he accepted the designation.
by Every6thDay on Nov 19, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
I hate that people who are professional writers, alleged to be the best at crafting the written word, do not know that they are using the reflexive pronoun incorrectly.
DIAF, illiterate monsters.
People have issues with using the word ‘me’.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
this is true
School teachers gave people such a complex about using ‘me’ when they should use ‘I’ that they just started using ‘myself’.
However, this should be “Paul Gutierrez of the Sacramento Bee and I”
Since when is Excramento
part of the Bay Area?
I guess it’s part of the Giants fan base…
"…this thing which tells time."
by Cody_ransom on Nov 19, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
His knowledge of judgement is as sound as his vote in this matter.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I think he was just trying to say the two Giants beat writers that get a vote.
I miss Nick Peters.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Sacramento wishes it was part of the bay area.
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Sacramento really wishes that rent was so high that half of the people in their 20s still live with their parents.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Timmy: High Above the Competition
I was hoping Wainwright and Carpenter will split the voters and they did, parting the way for Mr. Lincecum.
Win the inning.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090928&content_id=7202256&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
SUCK IT STUPID GUY WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT
The present field doesn’t have any members of also-ran rotations as compelling as the 2008 model Lincecum, who went 18-5 for a San Francisco team that was 50-78 in everyone else’s starts and had 59 more strikeouts than anyone else in the league.
Not even this year’s Lincecum, whose numbers weren’t as eye-popping — although he definitely deserves a place back in the campaign.
Not even this year’s Lincecum, whose numbers weren’t as eye-popping — although he definitely deserves a place back in the campaign.
wow i suck
by kingofthacove on Nov 19, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Cool.
Downside: This is going to cost the Gigantes a boatload of cash.
Bay? Forget it.
Holliday? Nope.
I for one welcome the addition of Marvin Benard to this years lol-up!
FACEPALM.
Giants were not going to sign either of those guys anyway. The Giants are not going to win a World Series in the next 2-3 years, either. Who gives a shit what they spend their money on? Better it be on one of their few good players than on the also-rans they’re itching to sign.
by Every6thDay on Nov 19, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
It wasn’t like Tim was going to get only $4 million before this announcement. He was going to make a boatload of money one way or the other.
by deuce deuce on Nov 19, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, but when he is a FA the Giants won’t need to up their payroll as much to keep him. His FA value is the same as it was before his second CYA. A 2nd CYA only increases his Arb value
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
So, then, zero chance the Giants try to sign him to a long-term deal to control costs?
by Every6thDay on Nov 19, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
A long term deal would benefit the Giants and Tim as his pay would be guaranteed. He has 4 years of arb, why not do a 3 year deal for 38 mil? 10/13/15?
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
I doubt this award would have added much to his arbitration pay increase. He already won one in his first full season and his stats have been amazing as is.
This, plus
I don’t care. Consecutive Cy Youngs is going to stick with us a lot longer than impact to the Giants payroll. If they had demonstrated historically efficient use with money I might feel differently.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Nov 19, 2009 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
If they had demonstrated historically efficient use with money I might feel differently.
/falls down
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 19, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Also
It’s great to hear Kruk again.
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+109
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
I like cats. Wings is the greatest show of all time.
Tyler Graham is my favorite San Jose Giant because he has smart balls.
by Norm Median on Nov 19, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
YES YES YES!
i sprinted out of econ after the story broke! WOOT
Woohoo!
I’m in class right now and haven’t been paying attention for the past half hour because this is clearly more important than my education. Go Timmy!
by kimmyg on Nov 19, 2009 11:21 AM PST via mobile reply actions
The press conference would have been held earlier than 2pm, but Timmy’s currently sitting on the couch with his roommate, eating his 3rd bowl of Lucky Charms and watching “Yo Gabba Gabba!” reruns.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
eating his 3rd bowl of Lucky Charms and watching "Yo Gabba Gabba!" reruns
Is there something wrong with that? /puts bowl of cap’n crunch under table
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by shanghaijim on Nov 19, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously. I turned my radio off as soon as Krukow hung up.
by troymccluresf on Nov 19, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Wheeee, my Cardinals-loving cousin is pissed. :)
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hahaha my friend too!!!!! i’m enjoying it tremendously.
"Snow woulda had it!!!"
Brandon Graham for President.
Pickles can definitely be the VP.
I just beat him over the head with WAR. :)
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Aha moment
THAT’s what it’s good for!
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by shanghaijim on Nov 19, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
They won’t be sad for very long. Everyone knows who’s going to win the MVP.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
MARIJUANA!
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I'm sure it has been said...
BBWAA Guy 1: You know, Lincecum has some pretty nice numbers.
BBWAA Guy 2: Yeah, but look at all these wins by Carpenter and Wainwright.
BBWAA Guy 3: Oh STFU, if Tim pitched for St. Louis he’d have had like 27 wins and another 40 K’s from everyone swinging for the fences hoping to get runs on the board.
BBWAA Guys: ….
BBWAA: Tim Lincecum has won the 2009 Cy Young Award.
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Done.
Oh, you didn’t mean lighting a baseball on fire?
Crap.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Am I the only one that thinks the Giants would hit flaming baseballs better?
Besides FrankenVelez, of course
SUCK IT Henry Shulman
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/19/SPVT1AM41R.DTL&tsp=1
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/19/SPVT1AM41R.DTL&tsp=1
by DFAAurillia on Nov 19, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I quit. Go to sfgate sports page and read the morons article
by DFAAurillia on Nov 19, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
and this guy too
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder if the fat has infiltrated his brain
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
OH NO NOW LINCECUM WON’T BE CHEAP ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!
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SEVERAL MILLION! OMG WUT?
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Schulman’s post was just stupid; this actually makes me angry. Yeah, baseball players are overpaid. So are most professional athletes and celebrities. But saying that winning the Cy Young is bad because it costs money is just the epitome of money over skill. And I don’t like that.
I skipped lunch today when I heard that Lincecum won the Cy Young, because I knew that I now have to save up money to keep Timmy in a few years. Oh wait, it’s not gonna cost me a dime. Now would Henry Schulmann stop pissing on my parade?
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by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
And his blog name is retarded
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Now, I might have voted on previous polls that I didn’t want him to win it for the sake of the Giants payroll…but screw it man, I’m happy. Good for Tim. Good for the Giants. Good for Giants fans. May another 4 Cy Youngs follow. I’m not Missing Barry so much right now…
I'll always miss him
because we could see him (almost) every day, and we have to wait 5 days to see timmy. But the feeling of excitement is the same watching either of them.
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
First Slovenia and now this!
Yeah! Go the little guy!
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA
Wait, what about Slovenia!?
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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
THey qualified for South Africa?
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by shanghaijim on Nov 19, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, is this a soccer thing?
Here I was thinking they succesfully invaded Russia or something.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I’m just guessing.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 19, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Actually this is sort of close
They beat Russia in a two game playoff to go to the World Cup.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA
Maradona did a similar thing, and some people somehow consider it one of the greatest goals of all time. Makes no sense
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by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Will Carrol’s ballot: Wainwright, Lincecum, Haren
Explanation here: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9782
And fuck whoever this was, probably Russel Martin:
Lincecum looked more hittable. “I’m still convinced that deception is a big part of what Lincecum does,” another said, “and that unless there’s a new wrinkle, people are starting to figure him out. He’s still good, his [stuff] is still good, but comparing him to Wainwright? Wainwright was just a shutdown guy this year.”
Innocent until proven guilty...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Nov 19, 2009 11:35 AM PST reply actions
Lincecum was more hittable – which explains why Wainwright had almost twice the HR rate and a higher WHIP despite almost the same walk rate.
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by jcb9 on Nov 19, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
he looked more hittable, except well having the lowest BAA and dominating in strikeouts.
by kingofthacove on Nov 19, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
ALL antics!
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Nov 20, 2009 7:23 AM PST up reply actions
DECEPTION DOESN"T COUNT HE CHEATS!
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
“He was the least hittable this year, but he might not as unhittable in the future!”
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
perfect
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
ALSO
As far as a process for voting, Ring Lardner hardly imagined this way of doing it, and I’m not sure it’s ideal, but in a season where I only saw one of these players live (Lincecum, in Cincinnati), I feel that I have to make the effort to see as much as possible.
I was at this fucking game, and it was Lincecum’s worst start of the year. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Wait…he’s in Cincinnati. An AL Central city. He never saw Carpenter and Wainwright. And he says he thinks he has tho make the effort to see as much as possible?
Okay.
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He says:
Again, as I’m in an NL city (Cincinnati chapter), I vote for NL awards.
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chasm?
Uh, the Reds…
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by shanghaijim on Nov 19, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
NL Central but your point stands
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 19, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
I loved the reaction when BP got into the BBWAA. Nerds are finally in! Except they gave the votes to the two most saber clueless people at BP. Carroll and Kahrl have no fucking clue.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
I’m really not sure I understand a STATS website having columnists who don’t seem to understand or use STATS in their analysis…
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Caroll I get, because he’s the injury guy.
Kahrl’s analysis is really bizarre and convoluted.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Its based on how it makes him feel.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
thats the problem.
/ducks
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Look who’s on the hog in the back!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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The part at the end
wishing he’d put Jair Jurrjens on the ballot instead of Haren made me question why he even put the WAR3 numbers in the article.
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 19, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
For real
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Nope. First one said something like that but then it says “another said.” Thought the same thing at first.
Innocent until proven guilty...
by AngelWillSaveUs on Nov 19, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
That just makes me think that hitters still don’t understand Lincecum and that’s a good thing.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 19, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Dumb-ass!
Channeled my inner Red Forman there.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I guess we'll be seeing this again next season.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 11:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
What Next Year Might Be Like
“Thank you, thank you. It’s really great to be here again, same as last year.
What can I say? Bitches love me cuz they know that I can rock.
Roll up a fatty fo’ dis pimp daddy, Fuck Yes, Suck It Russell Martin… and…
(Lincecum’s head jerks to the left slightly as he abruptly ends the sentence. He holds a baseball up as he begins to tremble, his eyes widening)
Now bring me a truck full of Choco Tacos or I swear to god I’ll kill every last one of you."
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
The Great One with a bunch of faded losers in the background?
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by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I just got in from shooting for my journalism project.
FUCK YEAH
Aside from sheer jubilation of being a fan, the voters made the right choice, with Greinke and Lincecum. I suddenly have faith in the world again.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 11:40 AM PST reply actions
I was the same
Until I saw the votes. Timmy got lucky, the writers are still clueless. And if the people at BP who vote can’t even get it right, there is still a long way to go.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
OMG WINZ was still a factor then?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Basically, if Wainwright had gotten to 20 wins, it would have been a complete blowout win on the scale of Greinke or worse.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
The Bartolo Colon factor strikes again (aka, win 20 games and you get the CYA)
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
I thought the Bartolo Colon factor was after you win the CY you gain 100 pounds and disappear from baseball?
Unless you’ve got the metabolism of a Freak.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 19, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Usually involves looking like Grimace.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
What a resemblence
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Appears so, unless darts were the main factor, which is possible.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
So awesome!
Break the bank, Timmeh.
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by GiantsFanInExile on Nov 19, 2009 11:40 AM PST reply actions
lol what
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
rec’d
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Nov 19, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Tickle Me Pablo!
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by NuschlerFace on Nov 19, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Because they’re Gary Radnich is a morons.
FTFY.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Considering how often he tries to make himself out to be Mr. KNBR
I don’t fault you for your error in any way whatsoever.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Quick Poll!
Least favorite KNBR personality (this may have been covered in detail, but i’m pretty new here, so cut me some slack.
My vote: Fitz and Brooks
Hah, I like Damon Bruce.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, so you’re the one.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I should clarify.
I like laughing at how angry he gets.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
and PiKA
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
pika IS damon bruce, though
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
That's great
but I don’t live in minnesota! SUCK ON THAT
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
fargo
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
WHAT WHAAAAAAAAAT
yeah I’ve only ever been to SF once in my life. My dad FTW
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Was gonna say, the Damon Bruce debate starts anew.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I like Bruce because he does exactly what he says he's going to do.
He rants and doesn’t let anyone get a word in edgewise. He tells you practically every single night that he’s going to do exactly that, because his show isn’t like a typical radio call-in show.
I see his show like a sports radio version of Real Time with Bill Maher, in that he may occasionally let dissenting viewpoints speak, but only when he allows it. Otherwise he is going to control the conversation for the entire show.
Radnich does the exact same thing but acts like he lets anyone say whatever they want. He’s quicker to cut people off than anyone on that station with the exception of Ralph.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
It’s true. Mr. Bruce is excellent at being an inflammatory assbag.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Radnich
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Radnich doesn’t really enjoy sports, and he’s a starfucker, but I enjoy his show.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
Hard to decide between Fitz and Brooks and Radnich.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Nevermind, it's gotta go to Radnich.
I don’t usually feel compelled to turn off the radio at any point during the Fitz and Brooks show. There may be moments where I don’t really listen because I couldn’t care less, but Radnich actually gets me to switch off.
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by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
yup
fitz and brooks might not know tons about sports but at least they seem like good guys and like they’re having a good time. I cant listen to Radnich
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Radnich is hilarious. His sarcasm is through the roof, and until you realize that, you’ll think he’s terrible.
by aaroncallagher on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
This is sarcasm, right?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Fitz and Brooks are my favorites. Least favorite: Radnich. Damon Bruce is ignorant but at least he’s entertaining at times.
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by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
he’s a morons, and he’ll always be a morons.
I actually would rank Radnich #2 on my KNBR host power rankings.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I like Murph.
Mac is a brick.
The Fitz and Brooks show is entertaining, but it gets pretty facepamly when they talk baseball.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
I always love it when somebody calls another person a moron the wrong way.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
And his shirt is just gleefully appropriate for this thread
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by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
that has to be totally staged—too good to be real!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Nov 19, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite (as a UCLA alum)
Is that the U$C parking lot outside of the Mausoleum had a “Scholorship Parking Lot” (why, I have no idea).
We laughed for a long time.
I’m not following…
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Radnich is a legend in his own mind
and I get so tired of OT drivel about his family, Da Mayor and his TV gig that I often switch to KCBS on my way to work. His only redeeming value (to me) is his trivia knowledge. Conversely, I like Ralph & Tom the best. I’m never up early enough to hear the morning guys. Fitz & Brooks are the least knowledgeable (IMO of course) and they seem to rely on guests more than the rest.
As for Damon, I usually agree with what he says, but how he says it grates on me… we aren’t in Chicago for God’s sake! I think he’d shine doing a show like All Night with Jason Smith: non-stop opinion for 4 hours with an occasional phone call and the obligatory “ESPN Analyst” thrown in to keep it interesting.
On that note, where do you stand with Jason Smith? I love him, but lots of friends are on the other side of the fence.
I'd like him a lot more
if he didn’t remind you once every 30 seconds that you’re listening to all night with jason smith on espn radio and espnradio.com
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS
OMG I’M SO HAPPY :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
…and he did it even with Fred Lewis in LF for a big portion of the year!
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions 11 recs
Joan approves
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by shanghaijim on Nov 19, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Is it just me
shouldn’t this be green? Fucking awesome
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
My guys!
Obligatory, “I have those guys on my fantasy team” post.
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by GiantsFanInExile on Nov 19, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
srsly?
god damn
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
snap
I just have Timmy.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
me, too!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 19, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
me too
and in an effort to repeat myself, I also had Carpenter and Lee. In a 12 team league. Yeah, it was pretty much a landslide year.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Nov 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Awesome
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Congrats to Timmy on his 2nd Cy Young! After a painful two hours subbing on the phones at church for my mom (200 calls asking if they were getting a Thanksgiving basket – no, I don’t have the list, I can’t tell if you’re getting a basket… if you get a confirmation call, you’re getting a basket… no, I don’t know when you’d be getting a call – you get the idea) , this is just the news I needed.
Everything else in the world may be about to fall down around our ears, but there is baseball, so I am happy.
1. Gratz to Timmy.
2. Will Carroll’s third place vote for Haren wasn’t nearly as well thought as his first two, and he outright states he’s been second guessing it. While probably would have ended up taking Jurrjens, I don’t think he gave Carpenter proper consideration for it at all (completely ruled him out because of the innings pitched).
3. I am really interested in hearing Keith Law’s explanation of his ballot, since Vasquez had a great year, but wasn’t in the range of the four pitchers discussed and I’ll be extremely interested in why he doesn’t think Carpenter was in the top 3 pitchers in baseball.
4. That still would have left Carpenter with somewhere between 95-97 votes, so Timmy would have still won based on the ballot splitting.
5. Which brings up my last point. Cain’s fade down the stretch was a BIG factor in Timmy winning the award, since all it would have taken would have been a couple of “well Cain was pitching better than Lincecum, so I’ll give him second and Lincecum third” to lose enough votes for Timmy for Carpenter to win. Funny how these things work.
6. Now can we work on getting his preferred nickname of Seabiscuit to the general public?
Brett Pill - .302/.359/.849 at the graveyard for hitters known as Dodd, .996 fielding percentage led all EL 1B (so much for his 'defensive issues' that someone posted'), probably should have been EL MVP (finished 2nd to Cleveland's top prospect), and nary a staff mention on MCC outside of Minor Lines and almost no fanposts!
Vazquez was second in the NL in WAR this year, fwiw. But, on the other hand, that’s based on his FIP and he always underpitches his FIP, so…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Yeah, Law should be writing an interesting article after this to explain why WAR trumps everything.
And I’d actually be interested in seeing the secondary stat breakdown for the top three pre- and post- All Star break, since I do think Schulman and Baggs have a point about Lincecum’s post-ASB performance. (I presume that’s why Paul Gutierrez of the SacBee had him second as well, so the Cards fans can take some comfort in that while they can condemn the West/East Coast bias, there was none for the writers in the Bay Area.)
Anyone have access to what all three of those compare on the more interesting statistical analysis pre- and post-ASB?
Brett Pill - .302/.359/.849 at the graveyard for hitters known as Dodd, .996 fielding percentage led all EL 1B (so much for his 'defensive issues' that someone posted'), probably should have been EL MVP (finished 2nd to Cleveland's top prospect), and nary a staff mention on MCC outside of Minor Lines and almost no fanposts!
I don’t get how they have a point about his post-ASB performance. He had a 2.67 ERA.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
That’s why I want to see the secondary stats of all three post-ASB.
Brett Pill - .302/.359/.849 at the graveyard for hitters known as Dodd, .996 fielding percentage led all EL 1B (so much for his 'defensive issues' that someone posted'), probably should have been EL MVP (finished 2nd to Cleveland's top prospect), and nary a staff mention on MCC outside of Minor Lines and almost no fanposts!
Baggs always finds ways to let me down
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2009/11/19/lincecum-wins-second-consecutive-cy-young-award/
Maybe next year he kicks it up another notch — and becomes a big-game pitcher in the second half.
ugh
Yeah, this is awful
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 19, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I really want to like Baggs but he will say some really dumb stuff like this or the Moneyball post where he “explained” what Moneyball was really about. Still might be my favorite.
by chilibean_3 on Nov 19, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
But hey, Lincecum was a better pitcher than the previous year. The four complete games tell you that. The improved WHHIP tells you that. The lower ERA tells you that.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Kill yourself, Baggs.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Am I missing something?
He missed that one start but he had some clutch fucking starts down the stretch for the Giants.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
His ERA was a little higher in the second half.
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But still under 3… lol
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m guessing his entire perception is based on the two bad starts he had in the second half(LA start and Cincinnati start).
and that the second half is really like the 3rdm 3rd of the season so one game has more effect
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Baggs isn’t the only one. I saw Chron Live highlights this morning. Mr. Amy G and the Hankster were talking smack about Timmeh’s post-ASG performance as well. Both of them voted Carp, Tim, Wainer…partly because of winz and ERA but also based on their opinion that Timmy faltered down the stretch when the Giants were still in contention.
Could. Not. Believe. It.
And to think that these guys get paid to watch the team everyday.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Wow, why are people such morons?
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To the gulag with your mr. amy g and hankster
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by zodiac_chiller on Nov 19, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
There’s no pleasing some people.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I remember someone during August saying that Tim wasn’t carrying his weight… he had like a 1.6 ERA in his last few starts but only 2 WINZ!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=linceti01&year=2009&t=p#half
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=linceti01&t=p&year=2009
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Oh for the love of Gof
I like Baggs but pointing out Timmy was 7-7 in the second half without going behind the numbers is ridonkulous.
Let’s throw out the Cincy game and his four-inning start against the Dodgers, which is widely acknowledged as the worst start of his career. Here are the numbers of runs the Giants scored for him in the remaining 5 losses:
1.
2.
2.
1.
0.
Lincecum didn’t give up more than four runs in any of those games.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
Really, Baggs?
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 19, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, didn't see this coming
Big feather in our collective caps. Thanks, Tim—spark one up for me!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
KUIP on the air!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
The only year, besides this year, it was wrong (not counting when it says a reliever should win) was 2002 in the NL.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know why they don’t fix the closer thing. It’s like they overreacted to Gagne winning in ’03 or something.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
FUCK IN YEAHHH!!!!! FUCK YEAHH!!! YEAHYEAHEYAHYEAHFLAEHOIEAINEOINVOIEIOEOEIHIO
YES
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Man the other night I saw something on Mark Prior. Damn! He was good.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
That's from when he was drafted, right?
I remember one scouting report that praised him by comparing him to Scott Shields. Who’s a good pitcher, but…
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We drafted a reliever?!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Bill Neukom with the cheap weed jokes (in email to STHs):
“Tim is an exceptionally talented baseball player who has earned this high honor […] I also want to congratulate our entire baseball organization […] for the role they have played in helping Tim to reach this
high level of achievement.”
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There was some more KNBR personality hate.
by chilibean_3 on Nov 19, 2009 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
We found you another Bruce lover
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Keep them apart from each other.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
*wave*
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
just noticed your sig
absolute genius
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
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by victor frankenstein on Nov 20, 2009 7:38 AM PST up reply actions
LOL KLAW
“Do the Cardinals sell a pacifier with the team logo on it?”
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
The Cardinal blog is taking it really well. It seems they were expecting it.
by chilibean_3 on Nov 19, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
They’re a good blog.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
St Louis fans are widely regarded as good fans
so I guess this backs that up
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
Meh. I caught a lot of shit about Bonds by a Cards fan who loved McGwire.
by troymccluresf on Nov 19, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
I sprnt a night posting there during the playoffs, they are cool
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 19, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Quality of Fanbase
SF>>>>StL>>>>>>>>Everyone (Not NYY,BOS, or OAK)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BOS>>NYY>>>>>>>OAK
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Accounting for Cubs fans Fail.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I didn’t have the space to include them
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
WTF…..I am guessing that LA simply ranks so low, that they are not on the above diagram. They are seriously a horrendous joke of a fan base.
Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu
I am primarly on east coast so those are the fans I deal with:
Neighbor: Yankees fan
Brother-in-law 1: Is a Rapper and a Sox fan (want to punch that fucker)
A small amount of A’s fans in philly with the Billy Bean argument
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you Royals, Rockies, Pirates, Mariners, Tigers, and especially you, Dodgers...
For drafting Luke Hochevar, Greg Reynolds, Brad Lincoln, Brandon Morrow, Andrew Miller and Clayton Kershaw over Tim Lincecum. You guys have great scouts for pitching, really.
Thank you, Tim Lincecum, for choosing not to sign with the Cubs in 2003, and choosing not to sign with the Indians in 2005. We may adore you for your performance, but we fucking LOVE you for that.
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
I can’t help but notice one guy drafted before Lincecum who you left out.
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Two, actually. I just named the teams who selected pitchers.
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
I think there are three. Lincecum was picked tenth, yes? You listed six guys.
One just stands out.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
well, yeah...
how could we neglect to mention Bill Rowell??!?!!1
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
(yes, I'm being an ass on purpose)
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
BRANDON MORROW LOCAL TIES FTW
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I don’t think you can fault the Dodgers for drafting Clayton Kershaw
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Kershaw is "not tim lincecum"
so IMO it’s still worthy of LOL DODGERS
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
lolcomments from around the Internet
“Carp so deserved that award so much more than FreakWeed. Oh well at least the Giants payroll takes a hit.”
“I’m also hoping that these 2 Cy Youngs will cause SF to either give Lincecum a Zito/Schmidt/Wells sized contract or get him the F out of the NL West. Either way works for me.”
“Congrats Tim! Now go have yourself a celebratory smoke, LOL!”
“Maybe if lincecum concentrated on getting outs instead of strikeouts, he would have as many wins as Waino and Carp… Ask carlos beltran and brandon inge if wainwright can strike someone out… Dave Duncan teaches them its smarter not too…”
Oh god.
“Terrible pick: Lincecum was 1-3 with a 3.60 ERA in September. When his team needed him most, he pitched his worst.”
Oh god.
Internet comments are the worst thing, ever.
"I’m also hoping that these 2 Cy Youngs will cause SF to either give Lincecum a Zito/Schmidt/Wells sized contract or get him the F out of the NL West. Either way works for me."
I liked this one. Obvious dodger fan as he included Schmidt
"Maybe if lincecum concentrated on getting outs instead of strikeouts, he would have as many wins as Waino and Carp… Ask carlos beltran and brandon inge if wainwright can strike someone out… Dave Duncan teaches them its smarter not too…"
HES LIKE MATT CAIN!
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
TIM DIDN’T GET WINS BECAUSE OF HIS STRIKEOUTS!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
MLB.com comments are painfully bad
“Makes me sick too, with fewer 1st place votes than Wainwright and Carp, Potty still wins. Potty is a fine pitcher but definitely not the award winner this year. What the heck was MLB thinking? They must be high as well…”
Oh god.
“Another case of east and west coast bias. there is no way Linecum should have won the award. He would be the 3rd pictcher on the Cards staff. what a shame that the award was given to the wrong person. 15 wins? give me a break.”
If he’d been on the Cards, he’d have won like 22 games.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I already determined it would be 27-0 in 29 starts.
Also, at least 40 additional strikeouts from people swinging for the fences more to try to score some runs, since they’d have to try to keep up with Pujols/Holliday.
Never question the divinity of That Which Was Pulled From My Ass.
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Dude is getting his pitchers mixed up. He is clearly thinking about Cain.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Potty?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Apparently people in other parts of the country think smoking weed is a bad thing.
I don’t always fee this way but times like this I enjoy living in my liberal San Francisco bubble.
by troymccluresf on Nov 19, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
11 IS FEWER THAN 9!!!!!!
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LINCECUM CAN'T GET OUTS!!!!
WHIP:
Lincecum: 1.05
Carpenter: 1.01
Wainwright: 1.21
CLEARLY NOT IN THEIR LEAGUE!!!!
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Dave Duncan teaches them its smarter not too
Duncan apparently didn’t teach you word usage.
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Second year in a row, higher number of Ks then era
love that stat
Its funny because fuck the dodgers
EVER WON A CY YOUNG...
…ON WEED?
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 19, 2009 12:28 PM PST reply actions
WOOHOO
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 19, 2009 12:29 PM PST reply actions
Chris Carpenter was the best starting pitcher in the National League. When he pitched, he was the toughest starter to hit. That is why he won the league’s earned-run average title.
Adam Wainwright built the best season -– from start to finish—so he deserved the NL’s Cy Young Award this season.
But Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum got it instead, to the great agitation of Cardinal Nation.
What went wrong?
* Many baseball writers downplayed the value of actually winning games, since Lincecum won just 15 times with a decent supporting team.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Wait, that wasn’t a internet comment!?
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
holy fucking shit
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
He makes a really big deal about how Wainwright had more IP than Tim and how he went late into games.
Wainwright 34 GS 233 IP 6.85 IP/GS
Tim 32 GS 225.1 IP 7IP/GS 7.04 IP/GS
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
2 EXTRA GS!!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
8 MOAR IP!
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
ONE ADDITIONAL START'S WORTH OF INNINGS OVER TWO ADDITIONAL STARTS!!!!!!!!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
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The Waaahmbulance was seen speeding toward St. Louis this afternoon.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Jayson Stark hears that the Marlins were in serious trade talks with the Giants and Rangers about Dan Uggla.
LINCECUM FOR UGGLA
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Dave Cameron seems to think if the Marlins trade him, it’s going to be a pretty straight-up salary dump. I hope he’s right.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I have a solution
Uggla for Gold Glove!
by Giant Voodoo on Nov 19, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They said that about the Pirates and Freddy Sanchez
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK YOUUUUUUUU
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’ll need a picture before I can answer that.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Why did I imagine...
You saying “FUCK” all angrily, then suddenly switching to a Soulja Boy-style “YOUUUUUUUU”?
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
does this like, make me a bad person?
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
more like this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
what are YOOOU doing here?
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Nov 19, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
what movie?
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Sub-topic: the worst movie you've ever seen
I might have to go with It’s Pat!
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does Manos count
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
oh yeah, duh
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Troll 2!
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Nov 19, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Knowing with Nick Cage
holy shit.
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
in the non manos category
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t mind that one so much.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
really?
man I thought it was TURRRIBLE
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t mind in the sense that at least the plot line connected. I didn’t turn it off. Plus I am not spiritual or religious so I find shit like that funny.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I just thought everything was awful
the plot, the acting, pretty much everything.
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Recently? Probably Australia. Also, S. Darko (a spin-off of Donnie Darko without any real link to the first movie) was truly awful.
Damon Bruce.
/wrongSubtopic
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lol
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by zodiac_chiller on Nov 19, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Wicker Man
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
BEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
It was rather entertaining to watch. The theater I was in basically turned into MST3K about 1/4 of the way in
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
That's 2 nick cage movies so far
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Really? It was a ridiculous movie, sure, but how else was it suppose to be done?
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve never seen it but I think it’s on FX like every day. I always see the ad where Nick Cage is like
I FEEL LIKE MY SKULL IS ON FIRE
It was totally STOOPID but, I mean, how else do you make a ghost rider movie?
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Raising Arizona is one of my favorite movies
Also, he wasn’t that bad in Moonstruck.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
I need to get that on DVD. It’s been like ten years since I last watched it.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Raising Arizona was awesome as was Con Air, Teh Rock (I will take the heat) Family Man and Face Off
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Con Air/The Rock/FaceOff is one of the holy trinities of loud stupid action movies. It makes one want to punch walls and drive around with thrash metal blaring.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
What?!
Those are fantastic!
“Welcome, to the Rock!”
Yes! In the good way! I enjoy them all for being mindless and violent.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
True, but i don’t like current issues in movies, i just want entertainment.
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Leaving Las Vegas, yes.
And I also love Peggy Sue Got Married.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
I LOVE WILD AT HEART
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by victor frankenstein on Nov 20, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Cage IS good, though
that’s why his movies lately just make me go “WTFF?”
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And by the way, how bad was It's Pat?
So bad hat I just said it was the worst movie I’ve ever had despite the fact that it stars Dave Foley.
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I must have forgotten that, much like most of that movie. This is a good thing.
by chilibean_3 on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
He plays Pat’s lover, Chris, with a wig.
I watched it years ago on Channel 36 while home sick from work with the flu. It was not a pleasant day.
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Foley hasn’t made a lot of great career decisions.
by chilibean_3 on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Newsradio is still hilarious.
And now, I’d like to tell you aboot the Daves I know.
by troymccluresf on Nov 19, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, he has a pass for life from me for News Radio and KITH, but he’s been in some real garbage. I did like The Wrong Guy though.
by chilibean_3 on Nov 19, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Come to think of it, I think I’ve only seen him in four things:
The Good:
Kids in the Hall
NewsRadio
The Okay:
Dick
The Not Okay:
It’s Pat!
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Also in the depths of my Netflix queue.
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I'm, like, the only person who likes that movie
even the cast members hate it
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Hmm, I remember hearing good things about it.
The Kids themselves hate it, but that’s more because they were totally miserable and at each other’s throats during its production.
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NewsRadio is great success in my book, if not the ratings book!
Mark McKinney went on to create a Canadian show called Slings & Arrows which is supposed to be good. I haven’t seen it, but it’s in the queue.
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my brother swears this is the greatest series ever made
but he’s a big shakespeare nerd. I watched the pilot on DVD – it was good – been meaning to watch the rest at some point
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
that's what my brother said also
maybe over the holidays I’ll watch more of it
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Scott Thompson
had a one-man show that he was pimping on Conan years back.
“Well, the show starts out with me masturbating into a sock- or as I call it my dreamcatcher.”
Never could look at those things the same way again.
by troymccluresf on Nov 19, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
It really is a testament to Newsradio that is was that funny despite Andy Dick’s presence.
by troymccluresf on Nov 19, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Also, Joe Rogan is in it. I have a feeling I’m going to be in the minority here, but I love Joe Rogan.
I think he’s douchey (and apparently a lot of the crazy stuff Joe Garelli believed is actually stuff Rogan believes) but I can’t bring myself to really hate him.
by troymccluresf on Nov 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Saw him a few months ago in Pasadena. meh
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 19, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
also LOL Thora Birch.
she was in two of the better movies of that timeframe, and uh. . . that.
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I’m still kind of in love with her from Ghost World.
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Shame on you.
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Banned
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
But you shouldn’t be meh about it because it was really really good.
I don’t think you took that into consideration. Go consider that. I’ll wait.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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YOU, SIR, ARE COMPLETELY WRONG. IT IS NOT MEH.
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 19, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
I LOVE THAT MOVIE
IT’S SO BAD AND JEREMY IRONS HAMS IT UP TO THE MAX
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I LOVE HIM
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
but he doesn’t shout in everything, just when he takes these crappy roles for the lulz.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I could be wrong but I think Forrest Whitaker did Battelfield Earth right after Ghost Dog.
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I find Battlefield Earth to be a very entertaining film.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Oh lord, Battlefield Earth was so godawful.
Then he was Idi Amin.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
His has a interesting career path
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Ghost Dog is awesome.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Wow, though I am lower on Requiem than most folks
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
JEREMY IRONS WAS SCAR
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Tim Roth, Jeremy Irons and Gary Oldman all do roles like that from time to time.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
in the non-Manos category
it might not be the outright WORST, but my least favorite movie ever is Match Point
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Quite bad. I actually think Woody Allen is pretty crappy overall, though I do like Annie Hall.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Scoop was one of his worst movies
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Vicky Christina Barcelona was dull as shit. Not even Javier Bardem being hot could save it.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Vicky Christina Barcelona
The answer to the question, “How do you screw up girl-on-girl scene with Scarlett Johansson and Penelope Cruz?”
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Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever was pretty godawfully terrible.
At least those crappy horror movies we love to hate are funny bad. That was just a shitfest of epic proportions.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
An old Elen Degeneres movie called “Mr Wrong” (iirc). Men Who Stare at Goats was pretty high up there but probably due to expectations.
"It's too late now."
Was The Men Who Stare at Goats really bad? The trailers looked funny, but I haven’t seen any trailers since it opened.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 19, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
You know on the other end of the spectrum. A movie I can’t stop watching is “Mr. Brooks”
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by say hey nation on Nov 19, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
the patriot
actually I once out of curiosity rented “Test Tube Teens from the year 2000.” that was probably the worst ever.
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The Patriot has been dubbed the most historically inaccurate film ever.
And, yeah, it’s pretty bad.
/owns it
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Uh. Gladiator? Best picture? Srsly?
“I want to give Rome back to the people.” Too bad the Roman Empire continued to be ruled by, ya know, emperors.
There are lot of historically inaccurate movies
I’m not really into judgin which are the most inaccurate. I’m just saying that it has been dubbed the most historically inaccurate.
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Troll 2
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Pushing Tin wins on the difficulty multiplier as I was dragged there by my wife who has a John Cusack infatuation.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 19, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
One of the best gif's ever.
I need to find the Bill O’Reilly “Oh Fuck It” gif.
Five...Five Cutler...Five Cutler Pickoffs....
by Gabafnerhagen on Nov 19, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
me too
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by zodiac_chiller on Nov 19, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 19, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Rangers?
Wheres is he going to play?
third?
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Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 19, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
It is a glorious Timmy Day!
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 19, 2009 12:35 PM PST reply actions
timmeh
please…
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by zodiac_chiller on Nov 19, 2009 12:36 PM PST reply actions
lol
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by bondslegend on Nov 19, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Doubt you want this info
But here is what it says:
My NL Cy Young ballot was
1. Tim Lincecum
2. Javier Vazquez
3. Adam Wainwright
That’s it.
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WAR
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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Wins Above Replacement.
You can find a series of articles detailing what it is here.
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I really don’t know why people are making a huge deal about the Vazquez vote. FIP/WAR aside, if you’re not going to vote for Carp because of innings/GS, Vazquez had really similar numbers to Wainwright (and better in many categories).
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see, i’m not too keen on what WAR or FIP stands for in the first place, i’m pretty sure that’s the reasoning behind it, the only way i know Vazquez is good is from fantasy, and he was lights out most or every time
If you’re interested, you can read the articles I linked above, and ask any questions you like. There are plenty of people here who are willing and able to explain.
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Basically
Over what would be considered a freely available talent. These are approximately the guys you can have for league minimum each season.
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not as high as Timmy!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 19, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
at the bottom, it says
Want his rationales? Ya gotta be an ESPN Insider, friends.
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Whoops
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Lincecum was a no-brainer, and it’s disappointing to see that a majority of voters on the award whiffed on the easiest part of the three-part question. Lincecum led the NL in FIP (Fielding Independent Pitching) and WAR (Wins Above Replacement), both of which normalize a pitcher’s stats to account for the help he received from his defense, and he led both categories by wide margins. He also led the NL in VORP, which adjusts for park but not for defense, by a narrow margin. I understand that many voters are uncomfortable with these advanced stats, but Lincecum also finished second in the NL in (unadjusted) ERA, but threw 36 more innings than the guy in front of him, Chris Carpenter.
Carpenter’s innings total was the main reason he ended up off my ballot. He pitched extremely well when on the mound, but not well enough to close the value gap between him and the three pitchers I listed, each of whom threw at least 27 innings more than Carpenter. Both Carpenter and Wainwright received significant help from their defense, while neither Lincecum nor Vazquez could say the same.
As for Vazquez, he ranked ahead of Wainwright in the advanced metrics anyway, but I also gave him extra credit for pitching in the most difficult division in the NL, one in which he had to face two great offenses and only one patsy.
As for the win total of each pitcher: I ignored that, because, as I’ve said for years, it tells us nothing useful about how well the pitcher performed.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.