Why Tim Lincecum Should Win the Cy Young
by Grant Brisbee on Nov 16, 2009 3:16 PM PST
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What, you want more? Chris Carpenter missed a month and gave up six earned runs to the Giants, which is a sin so egregious he should be ineligible for next year's award as well. Adam Wainwright had more wins, but Lincecum's middle name is LeRoy, so those two equally important pieces of information cancel each other out.
Another reason that Lincecum should win is that he had to pitch every inning with the knowledge that if he gave up a run, he had to rely on a ragtag collection of non-hitting misfits to score two runs. If he gave up two runs, he had to rely on the same bunch of offensive null sets to score three runs. After giving up a bloop and a sacrifice bunt, he'd look at the runner at second and think, damn, if I give up another hit, that's one more run that our offense will have to score. I'd like to think that as he looked at the runner on second, Aaron Rowand waved at him. But that's just the poet in me. Point being, Lincecum pitched under more pressure because his offense stunk. Is that a valid reason? No, but it makes me feel better, and the abacus twiddlers agree that Lincecum was the most valuable pitcher in the NL, so I can always hide behind appeals to authority that I'm not sure I comprehend.
Maybe Lincecum winning another Cy Young will cost the Giants an extra two million clams. Maybe. But I've watched William VanLandingham tease us with potential. I've listened to the KNBR lines burn up after good games from Jamie Brewington, Allen Watson, and Ryan Vogelsong. I've watched hundreds of games featuring the close-but-no-cigar promise of Russ Ortiz and Shawn Estes. I've watched Joe Nathan build the bulk of an unlikely Hall of Fame case in a different uniform.
Tim Lincecum is it. He's the one we've been waiting for. He might have two Cy Youngs in each of his first two full seasons. He's it. I don't care if winning seven straight Cy Youngs costs the franchise eleventy billion dollars. I watched Noah Lowry disintegrate into a fine powder. My double-album of odes to Jerome Williams, Jesse Foppert, and Kurt Ainsworth seems kind of silly now. Merkin Valdez is still a freaking question mark, 27 years after the Giants acquired him. But we have Lincecum. That makes up for a whole hell of a lot.
So I support Tim Lincecum's candidacy for Cy Young. He makes America better. You like America, don't you? Also, every time a Giants fan roots against Lincecum in the hopes of a lower arbitration award, Tommy Lasorda's bosom tingles with mirth and delight. You have a choice. But you don't have a choice.
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I have a sinking feeling that he wont win
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SCIENCE
He won’t win it but he should.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 16, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions
HOW MANY DOLLARS????????
"Snow woulda had it!!!"
Has decided to put all his "In this thing" energy to being in the Shark Tank and the Big House.
I don’t like how it loops.
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What a lovely visual
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Nov 17, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
The last time I bought a copy of the Chronicle was when Lincecum won the CYA last year. So, to support local print, the writers should do the right thing and give Lincecum the award.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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The Lincecum CYA Economic Stimulus
That was the last time I bought the Chon also.
Gary Darling, go DIAFF.
by The Enchanter on Nov 16, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
The voters making the wrong selection for another award shouldn’t give you hope that they’ll make the right one here.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Different set of voters. Not that that should change your hope, but they aren’t related.
by positiveuphemism on Nov 16, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
I do not want
Lasorda’s bosom tingling with mirth and delight.
Please, please, please BBWAA, Vote Timmy!
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
Tommy Lasorda is the Antichrist
by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Nov 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST reply actions
It will be a closer vote than last year, but I see Timmy winning by, say, about three grams.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
token weed reference
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Nov 16, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Toking
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and so can you
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Nov 16, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
must i spell it out for you
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Nov 16, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
let’s try that again…
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Nov 16, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
One mor etime?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
it's working for me
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
works for tim too
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t understand why a Giants fan would root against him getting it again to (possibly) save money? It just does not compute. Go Timmy!
by AngelWillSaveUs on Nov 16, 2009 3:52 PM PST reply actions
It’s the same instinct that makes some people want the team to lose games (in an already lost season, mind you) in order to have a better draft pick.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 16, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
I bet if you could rank people by how competitive they are, you could get a pretty good read on whether or not they are the ‘lose games for draft pick’ sort.
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
If it was the difference between having a 72-90 and having the 16th pick with good FA and Draft classes and being 70-92 with the 15th pick in the same year I would willingly give up those two wins.
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 6:40 AM PST up reply actions
NOT A COMPETITOR
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by bondslegend on Nov 17, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
From an MLB article
The current field doesn’t have any members of also-ran rotations as compelling as Lincecum, who went 18-5 for a San Francisco team that was 50-78 in everyone else’s starts in ’08 and had 59 more strikeouts than anyone else in the league.
Not even this year’s Lincecum, whose numbers aren’t as eye-popping — although he definitely is back in the campaign.
Tom Singer, Professional Moron
WHAT. THE. FUCK? HOW? How are they not as eye-popping? They are more eye-popping in EVERY FUCKING WAY except W-L.
That said, I don’t think the voters can stay away from the Carpenter feelgood jerk fest. It makes the columns too easy to write.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Ha, I just read that and had the same reaction. The article goes on to say he had a better ERA, more strikeouts and less walks. This guy is an idiot.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Nov 16, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
once your eyes have popped
it’s harder to pop them again.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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Well, it's official
Wins are dangerous and will pop out your eyes. Kids, stay away.
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Nov 17, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, I don’t particularly like America all that much. Tim should win the award.
Still in despair.
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have you tried America on weed?
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Nov 16, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
I'm Cuban B!
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by NuschlerFace on Nov 16, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.. you’re cool.. and FUCK YOU, I’m out.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
Tommy Lasorda is the Antichrist
by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Nov 16, 2009 7:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Looks like Jon Stewart and Scott Rowand.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Nov 16, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Because he's Timmy!
How many other five foot nothing guys can pitch like him?
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
If the Cardinals split the vote, Timmy wins. If not, then he comes in second. I suspect Timmy will get about 25% of the 1st place votes and the majority of the remaining 2nds. I can’t see many people voting both Cardinals ahead of him. As such, I think Timmy wins a close vote.
Also, the BBWAA voters seem to be doing a better job in recent years of selecting the right guy for whatever award. This may be me speaking from my bottom but hey..it’s an internet post…whatever!
by positiveuphemism on Nov 16, 2009 4:30 PM PST reply actions
we share so many of the same memories.. lol
I agree with you totally timmy is the one.. I really thought Jerome Williams was going to be successful… and i pray somehow Noah Lowry makes another attempt.
Jesse Foppert was my guy. The SF native with the blazing fastball, shuuto and filthy splitter. I saw him last year at USF and had to restrain myself from sobbing and asking, “GOD, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU, MAN?!?!”
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
I still remember going to his first or second start in the majors, excited to see the radar gun light up…
I don’t recall seing a single pitch travel faster than 89, maybe 90. I also remember looking for information on why the hell the kid wh supposedly threw 97-99 could barely, if at all, break 90. The only thing I ever found was some chowderhead telling us they sometimes juice the radar guns in the minors.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Same here. I went to a game he pitched against Minnesota where he hit 90 just once all night. He went 5 innings and gave up 4 runs, and that was with excellent outfield defense by Cruz and Grissom, and JT doing his usual thing at 1B. I went home depressed and unable to understand how the best pitching prospect in all of baseball could have a slower fastball than Kirk Rueter.
I still don’t know what happened to Foppert but whatever it was (and I’m not trying to incite any freakouts), I hope that it doesn’t happen to MadBum.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Seemed pretty obvious at that point that the TJ was hovering on the horizon. His velocity really should have raised more red flags in the organization then it did in the first half of that season. My theory was he overthrew in ST trying to turn everybody’s head before he was good and stretched out. The damage was done and it was just a matter of waiting for the shoe to drop.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
My double-album of odes to Jerome Williams, Jesse Foppert, and Kurt Ainsworth seems kind of silly now.
Not as silly as your upcoming Christmas album, “I Still Think Kevin Fransen Will Have a Successful Major League Career”.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
Carpenter is better – F
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
Tommy Lasorda is the Antichrist
by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Nov 16, 2009 7:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
the vote was made before said pot episode
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Nov 16, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
but that would’ve been the clincher for me!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Nov 16, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
I think he’s implying the writers are bitter because Timmy doesn’t share.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
You;ve just won the CYA, what will you do now?
… a holiday in Cambodia.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA
My mother was recently visiting and going on about needing the new Pol Pot album.
I’m like:
1) Wha—?
2) Some Asian-Brit punk group?
No, some guy named Paul Potts. Mom drops “s” from time to time.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
maybe
the giants would hit better if they had a gun at their backs for a bowl of rice a day
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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I imagined him smiling while he waved.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
I cracked up so much, I had to read it to my wife. Who probably ignored every word of it. But I heard me read it, and laughed again.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Could've been worse
He could have referred to Lasorda’s tingling loins.
Or painfully itchy rectum.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
Or blackened heart of evil and empty soul.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." - Willie Mays
Tommy Lasorda is the Antichrist
by tommylasordaistheantichrist on Nov 16, 2009 7:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I was at that VanLandingham game
For a brief spell I would go to about a game or two a year, and it seemed like I always saw him pitch. The first 3 or 4 times, he was stellar. Took a no-hitter into the 8th in LA even.
The last time I saw him pitch, however, he got lit up by LA at home, and that was pretty much his career.
BTW, no way Carpenter doesn’t win, as much as we doth protesteth.
Anagram of "Edgar Renteria" = IRATE NERD RAGE
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Nov 16, 2009 5:31 PM PST reply actions
Vanlaunchingpad?
He seemed to have such talent and he kept the ball down, missed a lot of bats for a bit, then, all of a sudden he either couldn’t find the plate….but when he did, it never reached the catcher’s glove
pfft...
I’d like to see Carpenter & Wainright dominate the National League high as a kite.
"It's too late now."
But why would anybody believe that Jack got a bowl cut? How can somebody who is bald all the time possibly cut his nonexistent hair into a bowl shape?
That commercial is fundamentally flawed.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
Imagine Jack with an Afro...
If Bochy coached the Warriors Bengie Molina would start every game at PG.
by cybermaldonado on Nov 16, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
OT:
HOLY SHIT MIAMI, damnit, lost to Kentucky on a last second jump shot by John Wall, DAMNIT! does anything ever good happen here at this school other than the damn parties and girls?
it was an Ayn Rand joke, a poor one.
But it still contained more humor than her books or an average cohort of her adherents.
BE MORE SELFISH!!!
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Nov 17, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
John (Vander) Wal
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
You’re my Vanderwahl.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 16, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Wall will be in the NBA one year from now.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
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I’ve heard that he’s got the internet goin’ nuts!
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Nov 17, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Late
But I’d think this guy was pretty good for Miami:
"I think I realized after the second or third punch, I should have taken his helmet off sooner." - Ryane Clowe
Proud member of the "Re-Sign Marleau" Club
Fools and Sages
Should win. Won’t win. Sun will still come up the next morning.
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by Giant among Angels on Nov 16, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions
Unfair advantage:
The other candidates actually get to pitch against the Giants.
Alternate universe average Lincecum performance against current Giants lineup:
9 IP, 2 hits, 1 BB, 29 strikeouts (includes 7 K’s on wild pitches and 4 swinging strikeouts on pitches which struck the batter), total pitch count of 93.
It works
With the hitters who don’t strike out all hitting into double plays….can you say Aaron and Bengie (although I have to think they could strike out too).
Oh wait....
That wouldn’t add up right for 9 IP.
Well, I did say Alternate Universe…
Er… this person here sees a third Cy for Tim in 2010, but also believes that the pressures of getting to the big leagues and having to deal with a drug scandal are equal. Really? It’s a thoroughly mixed-up article, with an irrelevant question for a headline. I’m not rec’ing it, but … third Cy?
/participating
by The GD Batman on Nov 16, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
As I said in the related fanpost
Anyone who votes no is a puppy killer. There I said it.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
HOO-RAH!
I’m fired up. Feel like going to LA and kicking a grocery store display of bums-laden-budweiser-paraphenalia to smithereens now.
AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
It's stupid for a Giants fan to ever, under ANY circumstances
root against their player getting accolades. Unless it’s like “puppy killer of the month” or something.
Tim should win, and fuck da haterzz
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Thanks to roger
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Those are the people who think it will cost the Giants money when it shouldn’t even matter to them.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
Some of the people who don’t want Tim to win the Cy Young.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
Agreed, honestly, i hope Tim wins the Cy, but if he doesnt, he’ll for sure get one or a few more or alot more in the future. Plus you’re right, it’s not OUR money, so people should stop caring about how much WE’LL pay, because WE don’t pay, it’s the team that pays, so it’s really not our problem concerning the money
We do pay – every time we go to the park or buy merchandise.
But it’s more about production on the field per dollar spent… theoretically, the more efficient a team is at spending, the better the product on the field. Since the Cy Young award doesn’t improve the team but does cost them money, it will lower the payroll efficiency of the team, which is why some people aren’t as excited for Timmy to win as others think they ought to be.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, seriously.
I never saw anyone getting pissed off at how many MVP’s that Barry Bonds got.
I know people are concerned about the possibility of him getting $20+ million per season… but don’t you think he’s kind of worth it? I’d rather them not spend that kind of money on a pitcher… but if they did, he better be good, and the fact that he came up through our system and has been here from the start is a good thing. Winning those awards is gonna bring people to the park. It’s going to sell jersey’s, and that = revenue for the team.
He is 1000000000% worth it
“Timmy Day” is basically a holiday for all of us. We love to watch him. He’s the best pitcher in baseball and he’s like 25. Pay him whatever he wants and keep him here his whole career. He is a once-in-a-generation talent.
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by bondslegend on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
he might get more money if he wins it
but what if because he doesnt win it he wants to go somewhere that will get him WINS
it’s the scariest thought ever
MattCainsAHelluvaDrug: /douses elbow in kerosene
/ignites
That has just scared me.
Nightmares of Timmy in another jersey.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA
i raise you this
Lincecum agreed to plead guilty to a lesser infraction and pay a $250 fine as part of a standard plea arrangement with the prosecutor’s office in Clark County, Wash. But Judge Darvin Zimmerman has requested that Lincecum make a court appearance Dec. 22 before he considers signing off on the agreement.
The judge might be motivated to make a high-profile example of Lincecum to deter other young people from marijuana use.
If the judge refuses to accept the plea deal, Lincecum’s two misdemeanor charges for possession of a controlled substance and possession of drug paraphernalia with intent to use — each carry a maximum of 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.
MattCainsAHelluvaDrug: /douses elbow in kerosene
/ignites
by Tim LinCyYoung on Nov 18, 2009 4:02 AM PST up reply actions
Anyone with TWO capital letters in their middle name deserves to win! I want two capital letters in my middle name…=(
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
Anyone know how it’s pronounced?
Lee-Roy (like Cliff Lee and Roy Orbison) or
Lehr-wah (like the French Burgundy, and similar to Habs goalie Patrick Roy)
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
leh-ROY
I think. At least that’s how they’d say it in the Philippines.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
That’s what Tim’s dad said it’s pronounced like. Or was that sharksrog? Same thing, I guess.
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In the bushes outside the Lincecum Family Compound, with his trousers around his ankles.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Timmy doesn’t have the money for a compound yet. Sharksrog is probably outside Tim’s Mission Bay condo with his pants down …
… which means he blends in with most of the other people on that street during the day.
... null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time
Right here!
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/11/16/1160365/why-tim-lincecum-should-win-the-cy#25748503
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VIVE LE ROY
I mean it’s LEE-roy, as in Brown. Vive Jim Croce too!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
How in the hell did Wainwright become a Cy Young candidate?
Seriously. Relievers turned starters should just be barred.
And a surprisingly huge K total too
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by bondslegend on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Like Russ Ortiz!
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Chad Billingsley!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Joba Chamberlain!
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
John Smoltz!
Starter turned Closer turned Starter
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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I like America... but I won't if Lincecum doesn't get the award.
The “win” stat is one of the dumber stats for a pitcher to have. Lincecum had 3 games where he pitched at least 7 innings and gave up 1 run or less. On an average hitting team, those could all be wins, not to mention an August 12th game were he went 8 2/3rd’s and gave up 2 runs.
If he was on a team like say, THE CARDINALS, like Wainwright and Carpenter, you could assume that some of his games were he wasn’t as sharp, say an Aug. 7th game where he went 7 innings and gave up 3 runs (2 earned). You could tack on 3 to 4 more wins if he’s on a team like that…. So on a good hitting team, he could have had 18-20 wins. On a great hitting team, 21 or 22 could have been easy with the numbers he had.
AND DON’T GET ME STARTED ON CAIN’S W-L RECORD. HE HAD 8… COUNT THEM… 8 GAMES WHERE HE GAVE UP LESS THAN 1 RUN AND DIDN’T GET THE WIN. And a couple more only giving up 2 runs. Dude, on a good hitting team, he could have maybe had 25 wins…. or come close.
That’s not to knock the other guys win-loss records, but it should be the last stat looked at when deciding who the best pitcher was this year, because so much of that stat is based on your team performance, and not your own.
I’ve missed MCC.
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by zodiac_chiller on Nov 17, 2009 10:16 AM PST reply actions
David Aardsma blossomed into a great reliever over the past year. Another pitching talent who didn’t work out for us. Just saying
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
by lincecuminyourface on Nov 17, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions
Yeah, the Giants suck at developing pitching talent.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 17, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Though be fair, pitching is the toughest (i.e. riskiest) position to draft and develop.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Chasm.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Not if you’ve been following the Giants for a while.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Pitching development is arguably the only real strength of the current Giants organization.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not arguing it. Current being the key word.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
Lars was using the present tense…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Nov 17, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, and only because I do this to everyone...
SO YOU ARE NOT SAYING!!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 17, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Just announced
Greinke wins AL Cy Young in a landscape.
by Duelling Brandos on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 AM PST reply actions
LOL
Was he mowing the lawn when it was announced?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 17, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Marquis de Sod.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 17, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t want to think of what the Marquis de Sade would have done with modern lawnmower equipment.
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120 Days of Sodom
Never looked the same to me.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 17, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Nov 17, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
win
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by bondslegend on Nov 17, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
yes
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 17, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
this made my day
MattCainsAHelluvaDrug: /douses elbow in kerosene
/ignites
by Tim LinCyYoung on Nov 17, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Correct
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Landscape?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
With mountains and streams and sheep at his feet.
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
If Jonathan Sanchez ever wins the Cy Young, it will definitely be in a Manscape.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Could do without the imagery, Howie…
If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
You’ll thank me later.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
He really deserved that new walkway.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
I think the new retaining walls look amazing.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Sweet
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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WTF is up with Jon Miller picking Verlander?
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Nov 17, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
He’s a rebel.
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TEH KZZZZ
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by bondslegend on Nov 17, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Also, WTF is up with the Cy Young Predictor?
It has three pitchers above Timmy. And one of them is Broxton?
VB: Victory Bonus is a 12-point bonus awarded for leading your team to the division championship (pro-rated based on the current standings).
- hah, I lol’d.
F. the Lewis.
by calpolynate on Nov 17, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
sad thing is that they usually pretty close to being right
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Verlander finished 4 places higher than they predicted, though.
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Talking about winners
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
The only time they were wrong (I’m discounting relievers) since 202 was the 2003 NL CYA when Eric Gagne got it
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
DAMN YOU, GAGNE
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Well, this year it had Felix Hernandez winning, not Greinke. Greinke was second, though.
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Mr. Technical!
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
It overrates relievers.
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It would be absolutely retarded to think that Wainwright would be ahead of Carpenter.
Lucky Giants shorts from Target > Jobu
Why?
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
because he posted better numbers in every category except for wins and BB.
Also, from a pitching perspective, it would seem to me that “losses” should be more equally weighted with wins as it stands, “W*6-L*2” seems a little imbalanced
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Wainwright had a better K rate FWIW
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by bondslegend on Nov 17, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
And more IP.
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by a lot
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by bondslegend on Nov 17, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
I never said he shouldnt
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I thought Felix had it sewn up
He had a pretty damn good season too considering the M’s offense aren’t anything special, but then again Greinke pitched for the Royals.
But let’s be blunt, one of them redbirds will win the NL CY…
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Nov 17, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I have proof
Tim has convincingly won every poll I have seen, and I now have proof positive he will win.
MLB.com has a two-minute video on the Cy Young competitors. Tim’s 30 seconds in the video was easily more than anyone else.
Is that proof, or not? And right from MLB.com itself.
Here's hoping
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by bondslegend on Nov 17, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
I’m more angered by the adult missionaries who ask these boys to go out and do this stuff. Let them be kids!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
+1
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I blew up on two missionaries during my finals week one year. I have rage issues
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t hate them, I just want my Sunday in the park to relax!
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Rage Cage Fight
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Well, yea, they just came to our apartment and were like “what’s your religion?” “are you happy with it?” WHY WOULD I NOT BE HAPPY WITH MY RELIGION
Tell them you are into the Dark Arts and would be thrilled with it if you could just find a nice virgin for your next sacrifice… and then add… “Oh by the way, what are YOU doing on the next full moon?”
HAHA, i’ll do it Merope, thanks for the idea, next time i see them on the street or at my place. LOVE IT
I tried to post this once and it disappeared, it’s probably now floating around on the Operation Panda thread or something!
Anyways, taking a more rational approach, the Freedom From Religion Foundation offers what they call “non-tracts.” Once when we had some exceptionally pushy Mormons coming around I ordered a few of the “sample packs” and the next time they came to the door I said “I’ll read yours, if you read mine.” They never returned.
"Are you happy with it?"
Not really sure if I’m using it right. I admit I never read the owner’s manual. The reception is fuzzy at times. Just not sure if I kept the receipt.
"It's too late now."
Unfortunately, since you opted for the self install option, I cannot help you at this time. Jesus loves you.
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Once, when I was visiting my parents’ house, some Jehovah’s Witnesses came to the door. They asked if I studied the Bible every day. Since my parents read scripture and discuss it every night at dinner, I answered that I did. They left very quickly.
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I’ve found that stopping them and saying, “Listen, you’re not going to get anywhere with me and I really don’t want to waste your time” tends to work pretty well. Sometimes this confuses them, at which point simply reiterating that talking to me will be a big waste of time tends to do the trick. You can only be confused so much when somebody very plainly gives you a 0% chance of success.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yea, good idea actually. THey’ll just give up and go to the next door after that, they just assume everyone is just so nice, but when you be upfront with them and bitch em out? they’ll be surprised
Well, there is also the fact that I legitimately don’t want to waste their time. It’s a big fat waste of my time, but allowing them to continue to talk to me when only I’m aware that it’s completely fruitless is also me completely wasting their time. And I don’t like doing that.
If they are completely aware that their time is being wasted and still insist on wasting it, then it’s just my time that is being wasted and they probably deserve a door to the face.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Good point, it really is also a waste of their time to try and get me to convert or at least consider their beliefs.
But you know dude, as the Dalai Lama kind of said, believe in whatever God you want but don’t try to convert people and live life, and stop being angry with what others believe in. It was something like that i think
Conversion has been a big part of not only Christian tradition but also that of other religions for thousands of years now. At one point it was simply a necessary part of keeping the faith from dying out. Why do you think it’s so incredibly important to Mormonism even today: it was a late-developing sect with a world population that remains small.
I don’t begrudge these people for supporting their church the same way that people have always supported their churches. I just don’t want them bugging me any more than they have to.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
And I’m not trying to excuse the conversion / missionary process of everything. It’s been the cause of some of the ugliest moments in civilized history. But when it comes to these people… I don’t know… door-to-door visits just don’t ring of 15th century colonialism to me.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, i see what you’re saying, perfect explanation actually of how Mormonism was a late-developing sect, i’m just all, believe in your faith, and if others think it’s a great belief then go for it, but how often does one believe that this visiting of peoples homes would help convert people to other religions
I recently heard an interview with a younger evangelical leader who’s been very critical of the traditional missionary practices like door-to-door preaching, revival meetings, etc., because he doesn’t think they do a good job in the long term – while some people convert, they rarely stick in the faith. His argument was that evangelicals shouldn’t worry about trying to convert people, but rather try to be a good example and hope people would follow.
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His argument was that evangelicals shouldn’t worry about trying to convert people, but rather try to be a good example and hope people would follow.
Also, have babbys.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Not saying he said that. I just like the word babby.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Unless you’re a Shaker.
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Dr. Moon says
stadium conversion FTW!
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by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
I was trying to remember where I heard it and couldn’t, but that sounds right.
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Last weeks This American Life… The bait and switch episode.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
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Jesus
plainly gave his followers the commission to preach to people, and while he was on the earth that is all he did. He went door to door throughout the land, and the last thing he told his followers to do was to follow his example and make disciples.
Just sayin. Now the WAY certain religions FOLLOW that command is up for debate. But it’s plain that part of following Jesus is preaching.
That’s my religious rant for the day, and probably forever since it’s a touchy subject.
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True enough
Though he also told his followers to leave their families and give up their possessions.
In any case, I do understand the missionary impulse, but I also find it annoying in actual practice. So I can see both sides.
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Symbolical
he didn’t literally mean for them to become destitute, obviously people have to care for the people they love. His point in saying that was that possessions and things like them should be a means to an end, not the end themselves. A life spent chasing possessions is a life wasted, as many many many many many rich people have found out.
People need money to care for themselves and their families, but what Jesus taught was that money should never become the sole focus of your life.
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You can interpret it that way, sure. But it really is a matter of interpretation and tradition. Which is, of course, true in every tradition, religious or secular.
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To a point
but when you look at Jesus’ ministry in context it makes it a little easier to figure out what he was about.
Anyways, like I said I know it’s a touchy subject, but I also know that the vast majority of religious leaders have given “faith” a really horrible reputation. They do not represent the bible in the way they live or even the things they teach.
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Well, some of the Old Testament figures had personal lives that would put Jerry Springer guests, let alone televangelists, to shame, but I do know what you mean. :)
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Good point
but the world was a much different place back then. It’s difficult for us to imagine a world where those sorts of lifestyles were accepted, but it’s difficult for me to imagine someone enjoying a meal of cow brains, and somewhere in the world I’m sure that’s a delicacy.
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Well, often it wasn’t tolerated, at least by the true faithful – David and Bathsheba, for instance.
I rather like that type of moral ambiguity in the Old Testament, though, as an outsider to the tradition.
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David wasn't killed though
he was forgiven because he demonstrated repentance. Well, his kid was also killed because of it so he didn’t get off scot free, but yeah.
I didn’t mean so much that as I meant the multiple wives thing and some of the other stuff in the old law. It was crazy.
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The baby of Bathsheba? I thought that was Solomon. Or was there another child before him? That wasn’t covered in the SuperBook cartoon about it.
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Their first child died of illness as a baby.
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David’s whole family was pretty messed up.
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Though not as much as….shit, I can’t remember who it was. One of the big Old Testament patriarchs. When he was an old man, his daughters got him drunk and snuck into his bedchambers to have sex with him so they could bear him sons. That was a bit of an eye-opener in Bible as Lit class.
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Lot
They were in a cave.
/ends subthread
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That's right
I almost said his tent. The memory is hazy, obviously. This was when I was an undergrad, about 8 years ago.
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Lot
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You still going to make that fall recipe / foodie post. I don’t want to step on your oven mitts.
Thread is up
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/11/17/1161981/mcc-recipe-swap-food-talk
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You’re right, it is a pretty touchy subject, that’s why i like to stay away from it and just say, hey believe in what you want and enjoy, because in the end, why do people believe in a God? because what’s everyones biggest fear? Death, and what happens after, at least that’s what i was taught in my Philosophy class. So yea, be happy with your religion
Wellllll that's part of it
another part is what happens before death, and feeling good about yourself and others. Religion does that for a lot of people.
For example, if one followed the bible’s counsel they’d never have a hangover or an STD, 6th graders wouldn’t be pregnant, etc.
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if one followed the bible’s counsel they’d never have a hangover or an STD, 6th graders wouldn’t be pregnant, etc.
Well, I wouldn’t go so far as the pregnancy thing. If everybody followed the Bible’s counsel… maybe. If that particular sixth grader followed the Bible’s counsel… maybe. But that’s moving into a very weird area of discussion for me.
Certainly, it ideally acts as a guide for an individual to lead a good life as a good person, and – philosophical questions about a doctrine of works aside – if an individual follows that counsel, then that individual will ideally in fact be leading a good life as a good person.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Which is also true of a good number of other faiths and doctrines, I should add.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
I run into enough atheists and statheads who want to preach at me to change my beliefs to know exactly how annoying it is to be missionized.
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Atheists can be among the worst, yes.
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As always it’s a certain kind of person. I know a couple of confirmed atheists who are very respectful of me, and interested — academically, sociologically — in religion. But then there are the occasional people who are essentially loudmouth holier-than-thou preachers about it, which kind of defeats the purpose of the atheism.
As for stats, I just can’t do math, so I won’t waste anyone’s time.
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this
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Well one more thing
Jesus also taught that living what you preach is important- which is why I laugh at all the hypocritical religious leaders who act like they’re following Jesus while at the same time doing whatever they can to make money and fornicate wildly. Obviously they are not actual followers of Jesus, since they are completely missing the point of his ministry.
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SO YOU ARE NOT SAYING!!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 17, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
There’s also the doctrine of the messianic secret (mostly in the Gospel of Mark), where he plainly tells his followers not to say a thing about him.
Do you really believe we can know anything about “jesus of nazareth” from reading the bible?
he didn’t write it, you know.
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by The Gene Hackman on Nov 17, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Well
Moneyball wasn’t written by Billy Beane, but it gives some pretty good insight into how he runs a baseball club.
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let me put it this way….
One year later, how accurate is Sarah Palin’s account of the 2008 presidential campaign?
Mark wrote his gospel (by far the earliest) some 40 to 70 years after jesus supposed ministry.
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by The Gene Hackman on Nov 17, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t disagree with the assessment that the Gospels have some pretty serious problems if viewed as historical documents (and it’s also worth mentioning that the Gospel leaned on most heavily by evangelicals is the last one to have been written). But I don’t think it follows that they can’t have insight into their protagonist because they weren’t written by him.
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And actually, I think authorship is probably not as strong an argument as the issue of how the Gospels were selected. There are a number of Gospels that were written and widely read and followed in the early church, but never made it into what we know as the Bible for largely political and doctrinal reasons, and many of them present a very different portrait of Jesus than the canonical Gospes. The Gospel of Judas got a lot of attention recently, but there are others, like the Gospel of Thomas.
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So, do you think you could know how BB runs a ball club if Moneyball had been written like the Gospels? Like, 7 different versions of Moneyball… written 100 years later (after decades of oral tradition) in a language that BB doesn’t speak? Some versions where he owns up to being a GM, others where he seems to deny being a GM?
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by The Gene Hackman on Nov 17, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Enh, just the first example that came to mind.
Like I said, I don’t really disagree with your point. Just the argument you were using to get there. What’s most relevant, I think, is the timeline, the political wrangling, etc., not the fact that the Gospels weren’t written by Jesus.
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OK but I only ever argued that no one can rightly discern: “Jesus intended for us to do THIS” or “Jesus would have done BLANK” from reading the bible.
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by The Gene Hackman on Nov 17, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Fair enough.
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glad we agree
Too bad jesus was so illiterate or we could have a much clearer idea of what he wants us to do/be.
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by The Gene Hackman on Nov 17, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
We’re not selling robes here!
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by ResDog on Nov 17, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
IIRC
he told them not to say a thing about him after his resurrection, and that was so that they didn’t freak people out.
Matt 28: 19,20 is pretty clear on the assignment he gave his followers.
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I see your Matt 28:19-20 and raise you one Mark 8:27-30.
It’s “pretty clear” only if you prooftext.
Many theologians will argue that you cannot find evidence of the divinity of Jesus in the Gospel of Mark.
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by The Gene Hackman on Nov 17, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Well
the bible is meant to be taken as a whole. You can make it seem like a contradiction by selecting certain verses, but as a whole it is in harmony. It IS pretty clear based on Jesus’ life and his teaching and the people that followed him during his ministry that if you want to follow him, part of that is preaching to others, and that preaching is a very LARGE part of that.
I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind, I’m just sayin what I believe after my (admittedly relatively short) study of the subject.
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I dunno
While most religions accept converts, a lot of them don’t have anything like the missionary tradition of Christianity. A lot of religions make it difficult to convert.
There are some that refuse to accept converts altogether, but they’re mostly small, local religions like the Druze.
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Well, I wasn’t trying to lay a blanket. I just didn’t want to be like “OMG TEH CHRISTIANS”.
On a visible level, it is obviously the Christ-based faiths that are doing a lot of it. But I don’t believe it’s a claim they make exclusively.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
The missionary command as recorded in (I’m not sure but all four?) gospels is a big part of it. Another part is how it became the authorized religion of the late Roman Empire, and then a key aspect of the nation-building of European states and eventually their colonial ambitions.
Of course, some would say (I have said, half-jokingly) that Mormons aren’t Christians … although gosh, that whole interplanetary thing of theirs is kind of cool. Cylons!
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I tried that. I finally had to blow up on them after like 6 times.
What worked really well, was when I was a teenager I happened to be cleaning my shotgun on the porch when I saw them drive down the drive way. I took of my shirt and put on the overalls from the work I did that morning and acted all white trash with my shotgun and some shotgun shells next to me. They never showed up again.
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by say hey nation on Nov 17, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Well, if you let them know that they’re wasting their time and they still insist on pursuing things, they’re just asking to get yelled at.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
before the Cal game a couple of weeks ago
a trio of slightly hippieish kids (mid 20s or so) came up to my sister and law and me and asked “do you need any physical healing?”. I, rusty from living in SF where we’re all going to burn in Cotton Mather’s special place, was surprised when the question wasn’t “spare some change” or “would you like to sign this petition against Prop 8”.
My sister in law didn’t miss a beat, immediately asking the younguns if they wanted to go to a free vegetarian dinner. For some reason the krishnas never approached me in Berkeley, it was always the “do you want to go to a bible study” folks. She apparently was frequently approached by the krishnas; I guess there’s a crew for every demographic.
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by natteringnabob on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Mormon boys? in pairs? in short-sleeved white shirts, skinny ties and black nameplates? with carefully combed-flat hair and bright shiny grins?
send ’em my way please.
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With reading your posts over the year, I know what you are thinking.
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
love it
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DOZENS!!!
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I didn’t see you at the conference in Germany last year.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Turning a thread about Timmy into a religious discussion seems blasphemous
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Just wait until we get into Pokemon.
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Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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garsh, natto—so bold of you to be sharing your innermost with us mccovens…
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I picked Charmander as my first pokemon.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
And that is why you are not boyfriend material to me.
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But I’m cute, I’ll watch horror movies with you, I have glasses, I like art and comics, and I read!
This is so not fair.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that giant tattoo of Grant you have on your chest, with your nipples as his eyes, falls into the “bad tattoo” category.
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GROW A PAIR!
You Charmandar selector!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 17, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
But it’s HARDER to play the first parts of the game with a Charmander! You think beating Brock was some walk in the park? You think I had a lot of fun rolling out a fire type against Misty and her Starmie?
It takes a pair to select Charmander as your first pokemon. Anybody who doesn’t respect that decision must not respect themselves.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 17, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
C'mon
He is the second coming of Christy!
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What the hell do you think this place is?
Purple Row?
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by SoFa King Mike on Nov 17, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Grant
Please remember to post the farm animal band gif on Thursday. It was good luck last year.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 17, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions
That poor slave band!
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If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.
My bets on Carpenter
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 17, 2009 11:01 PM PST reply actions
JUDAS!!!
Schulman didn’t vote for Timmy
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hmm. on second thought, I don’t like the connotations of this post.
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by shanghaijim on Nov 18, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
i like how he didn’t write about the part where carpenter had incriminating photos of him
MattCainsAHelluvaDrug: /douses elbow in kerosene
/ignites
by Tim LinCyYoung on Nov 18, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
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