Hows Bout Marcus Thames
by bobojones on Nov 13, 2009 9:17 PM PST
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The Tigers have released Marcus Thames, and after looking at his numbers I can't get it out of my head that he could be a perfect fit here. Here is where my love is coming from. A career average of a HR every 15.3 plate appearances. That my friends is crazy power. Better than anyone that is being talked about, Nick Johnson (35.0), Mike Cameron (28.1), Matt Holliday (23.9), Adam LaRoche (23.8), Jermaine Dye (22.2), Jason Bay (21.1), Russell Branyan (17.2), whoever.His pure power numbers match up with people like Howard, Pujols and Fielder. He's legit. Plus, as someone who is coming off an injury season, he should be amazingly cheap. We're talking in the $2-3 million with only a 1 or 2 year commitment range, those are Juan Uribe afterthought type numbers. In 2008 he hit 25 HR in 384 PA. And last year before he got relegated to a DH against lefties roll, he hit 9HR in 139PA (15.4, right on average). I just can't imagine how someone who started last season as the regular 4 or 5 spot guy in the Tigers lineup would not be a massive upgrade for the GIants. Am I crazy for thinking this should be a no brainer type move. I know the basic reason not to sign him. Veteran guy who will be 33 and is not a great fielder that Bochy might play even if he's a disaster. But just the thought of having real power to back up Panda with almost no risk, wow. Someone talk my out of this are get on my bandwagon.
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There's more to baseball than home runs
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Nov 13, 2009 9:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You forgot W-L record.
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 13, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow this comment looks retarded without context.
I meant for pitchers.
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 13, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were talking about quarterbacks.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Nov 14, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I WANT WINNERS
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 14, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I WANT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WIN!
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Nov 14, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I WANT PEOPLE WHO HAVE AND WILL WIN!
Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.
by I'm_a_Man on Nov 15, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
.306 career OBP
104 career OPS+
-9.5 career UZR/150 in the OF
no thanks
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Nov 13, 2009 9:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Welcome to the big leagues, son! Proud McCoven parent of future rookie of the year, Gerald "Buster" Posey and RL mom to future HOFer Henry! ;)
by GiantsFanInExile on Nov 13, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Minor League Contract With Spring Training Invite Maybe.
Anything Else:
HELL NO!
by giantsrainman on Nov 13, 2009 9:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I Agree With This Comment
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Nov 14, 2009 7:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it again
GRM for GM.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Nov 14, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m really starting to get startled by how much I’m agreeing with GRM this off-season. It’s weird.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
by cornball on Nov 15, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He has been converted
say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan
by say hey nation on Nov 16, 2009 6:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
The last three seasons, he got out in more than 70% of his at-bats.
That’s Bengie-level there, that is.
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 13, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
so what you're trying to say is...
he is the perfect cleanup hitter
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
by j14 on Nov 13, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GIT R DUN SABES
You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...
by dregarx on Nov 13, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Thames on a cheap deal he had that ridiculous streak last year when every hit he had was a home run for 10 hits in a row
by 49erEmpire on Nov 13, 2009 9:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
These posts just keep popping up. And this is still only november. By the time the offseason ends we’ll have 6,037 posts suggesting possible outfielders to acquire.
Adopted Giant: Henry Sosa
by raisingcain on Nov 13, 2009 11:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And we’ll still end up with Velez and Winn.
by quincy0191 on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Any active player with even a modicum of power at any point in his career will have a Fanpost written about him. I’m looking forward to reading the Fanposts about Jeff Keppinger and Gary Sheffield.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 14, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheff’s bat speed is still insane for an old dude though. Probably be a great batting coach someday if he chooses.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Nov 14, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
now now.. this is only #6
It just seems like 666.
by Merope on Nov 14, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Idea for new Fanpost
“How about SHUT THE FUCK UP!’
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 13, 2009 11:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Whoa there....
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Nov 14, 2009 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
that was a bit harsh, but all all these Posts are annoying
#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
Adopted Father: Tyler Graham
Official McPokeMaster
Registered Velezbian and supporter of Fredemption
by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 14, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"How abBout SHUT THE FUCK UP!’
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Nov 14, 2009 12:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“Hows Bout STFU”
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 14, 2009 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Nov 14, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Giants should just sign every free agent and released player on the market. Every player that doesn’t make the 25 man roster should be sent to Fresno. This will prevent all the other teams from improving and guarantee the Giants a playoff spot. The payroll will be bigger than the deficit, but at least it’s not my money.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Nov 14, 2009 5:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not had an OBP over 300 vs. RHP since 2006.
For the right price and if he was serious about playing 1st base then maybe. Still think the odds of Johnson doing good things is way better. Same goes for Branyan and Delgado.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 14, 2009 8:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
My only memory of Marcus Thames was when he crushed 2 HR’s off of Lincecum in that one game.
by xanthan on Nov 14, 2009 9:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
he homered in his first ML at bat off Randy Johnson in Yankee Stadium.
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 14, 2009 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at that game. The HR to center was really impressive.
Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.
by j14 on Nov 14, 2009 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if you click the Thames link, you get to see this picture.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 14, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Matt Holiday says " You’re using the wrong head for that!"
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 14, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a neat trick. I don’t think umpires would approve of that though.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 14, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's gonna leave a mark...
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
by nvsfg on Nov 14, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you click on Nick Johnson link you get this picture
Matt Downs . The Kevin Frandsen of 2010 !
by nvsfg on Nov 14, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no, and I'll tell you why.
He pronounces his name “TIMS” and not “THAYMES”
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 14, 2009 9:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not a big fan of the English, eh?
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
by JakeS on Nov 14, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I also dislike Shawn Figgins
not really, but I am joking.
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Nov 14, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could live with him as a platoon partner for Ishikawa or one of our many lefty outfielders.
by Dan from NM on Nov 14, 2009 11:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
lol no
Still in despair.
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by Zetsuboushita on Nov 14, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What about and I am just throwing it out
what about Richie Sexon. He is like a poor man’s Adam Dunn
He hits for low average but he hit a lot of homeruns in short time0
Its worth a shot give him a minor league deal
He has something to prove, and if he ends up not producing just release him
The Giants got nothing to lose and everything to gain
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas
by Mike Fox on Nov 14, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t he, like, retired? He’s been out of baseball for nearly two years.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
by JakeS on Nov 14, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with you if this were five years ago.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 14, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Dunn is a poor man’s Adam Dunn.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Nov 14, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you’re a sick man 8th grader Mike Fox
by sfoakbay on Nov 14, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am losing hope for the next generation.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Nov 14, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, wait it’s you again! Seriously dude, I know they haven’t made a baseball game as good as MVP 05 yet but I’ve got to tell you, rosters are significantly different these days.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
by JakeS on Nov 14, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In my MLB 09 game, Aaron Rowand hits 30 HRS a year, Emmanual Burriss has a .350 OBP, and Pablo Sandoval barely keeps it above the mendoza line.
by AndrewWK on Nov 15, 2009 1:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They instituted the Designated Hitter rule in the National League? How did I miss that?
by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 14, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Isn't Thames defense awful?
We have a guy with very good power. His name is John Bowker. I think he should at least be a platoon partner with Nate, if not a starting OF
Grab Some Pine Meat!
by Gobroks on Nov 14, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
torres is the best choice just triple his starts and see if you think Bowker schierholz or any other outfielder we have is better
I am serious check it out
456 abs 18 hr 69 rbis 18 sb 123 hits 90 runs, the only thing bad would be his strike outs he would have 135 strike outs
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas
by Mike Fox on Nov 14, 2009 10:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have an even better idea
Take the Opening Day results, and multiply their stats by 500. Then assume that each player will perform to those results. Hey guys, Pablo Sandoval is going to hit .500! With no home runs and no RBI! And Bowker’s going to draw 500 walks and strike out 1000 times! Rowand’s going to swing at 1500 sliders that are two feet out of the strike zone….
Now I’m sad.
by quincy0191 on Nov 14, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny you should bring up Torress.
Age 25 season Torress is 220/263/298 in 70 ISO ( SLG –AVG) 185 PA’s.
Bowker in age 25 season 194/ 247/ 373 with a 179 ISO (SLG-AVG) in 73 PA’s. Bowker -because we are talking about such small sample sizes – had only a slightly higher rate of making outs but more than double the power of Torress. Advantage Bowker.
Nate’s age 25 season 267/302/400 with a 133 ISO (SLG-AVG) in 170 PA’s. Nate had a higher contact rate. Nate produced a outs at a significantly lower rate than Torress and Nate had almost 90% more power. Advantage Nate.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 15, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And Give me a break
come on every post no matter if it was bad or good you have been dogging me for everything
I am new to this go easy on me
I mean you don’t have to be so harsh
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas
by Mike Fox on Nov 14, 2009 10:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Think about what you’re saying. You can’t honestly think that if you tripled Torres stats that’s what he’d put up, can you? That would be pretty neat if it worked like that, but it just doesn’t, for obvious reasons.
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Nov 14, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about?
It totally does. Take a sample of any hitter’s stats over x ABs, and then multiply it by y where x*y=500. You can perform a similar procedure if your stats are over a certain number of games, plate appearances, etc. For example, Barry Bonds hit two home runs on Opening Day 2002. Barry Bonds played in 143 games in 2002. As expected, Barry Bonds hit 286 home runs in 2002, breaking the single-season record he set one year previously by 213.
by quincy0191 on Nov 14, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Were you being sarcastic
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas
by Mike Fox on Nov 14, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Barry Bonds hit 286 home runs in 2002.
by quincy0191 on Nov 15, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, extrapolation
Lovely
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Nov 15, 2009 12:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I think most people have to understand that before they begin to get regression to the mean.
/sets teeth and gathers patience’s about himself.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 15, 2009 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a exTARPolation!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Nov 16, 2009 8:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No I understand not just by that I am just showing what it could be in that range
I am also just showing how better he is now than the other possible outfield choices.
The stats will probably be lower knowing our luck but still better than Lewis, Shierholz, Bowker, and Velez
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas
by Mike Fox on Nov 14, 2009 10:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
SERIOUSLY
+reply. IT’S RIGHT THERE.
by quincy0191 on Nov 14, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i know
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas
by Mike Fox on Nov 14, 2009 11:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THEN WHY DONT YOU USE IT?!!!?!!
AHHHHH
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 15, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and Idk if you were being sarcastic
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq Chuck Norris lives in Texas
by Mike Fox on Nov 14, 2009 11:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If you know
how to reply, then do it.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Nov 14, 2009 11:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol dude, you replied to me in the other thread… you can do it for other people too.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Nov 15, 2009 12:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you keep reply failing, I’m going to assume you’re trolling.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Nov 15, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Fox
I really think people are a little too harsh on you, and I feel for you because of that. However, you should also take the hint and work on your grammar, and research at least a small amount before throwing out your opinion on what the Giants should do.
Either way, it’s the internet, and people will always give you shit for anything, so don’t take any of it personally. That is, if it bothers you in the first place :P
by beagle on Nov 15, 2009 1:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, there’s that and the whole lack of “netiquette” thing. Most people don’t just barge into somebody’s house, classroom, or place of business and start blithering. So why do it on an established blog? Common courtesy suggests that maybe you get to know the place a bit, there are rules (both written and unwritten) – figure out the ambiance of the place (well thought out posts, grammar, spelling, and sarcasm rule the atmosphere around here) before you start to post.
Posting on McC (except for game day threads) is more like turning in a term paper than passing notes to your buddy the next aisle over. Yes, it’s smuggy and elisty but considering the stupidity and vapidness of most of the rest of the internet we kind of like it this way.
by Merope on Nov 15, 2009 7:29 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
BAH!
I have not seen anyone even reading him the full roit act yet let alone tear him a new one.
I like the fact he is not getting intimidated or acting out in uncivil manner. Constantly trying to use the reply button is the least the guy can do. In fact I would rate it as more several times more important than using spell check. To repeatedly choose to not use reply is like someone sitting down next to you, chew with their mouth open and then they lean closer to you to talk –while chewing – breathing crumbs all over your face. Not cool.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Nov 15, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't see anything wrong
As blogs go this is a pretty prestigious one, and I don’t see any problem with the established posters being critical of stupid ideas. The court of public opinion is what keeps this place from becoming the comments section of Youtube for the most part, if you say something dumb people will and should tell you it was dumb.
Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar
by JakeS on Nov 15, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HAI GAIZ IM NEW HERE TOO MCC BUT IM ONLY IN 8TH GRADE CAN YOU TAKE IT EESY ON ME O I C A +REPLY THING RITE THERE WAIT IM SUPPOSED TO USE IT O OK LETS TRIPLE TORREESSS 2009 STATS HE IZ AN ALL STAR ALSO BENJI MOLINA IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS TEEM AND FRED LUIS SUCKS REMEMBER GUYS IM ONLY IN 8TH GRADE SO CHILL
by sfoakbay on Nov 15, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rather have Jonny Gomes if we want an all or nothing at the plate, crap in the field type player
by microwave donut on Nov 16, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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