Angel's VISA Revoked

Not his credit card, and not really that surprising

2 months ago m34josh 22 comments 0 recs |

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One of these years I might go through the Spanish language stories on this for nuggets as I did before, but it’s a non starter right now.

He either gets acquitted or there’s no chance of him returning to baseball in the US; an unresolved major criminal case outstanding in your home country is generally considered appropriate cause to not allow someone to enter your country on a work visa.

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by HaroldS on Nov 13, 2009 5:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If only the Giants had some other

good, young-ish first baseman who could step up as a prospect where AnVil couldn’t/didn’t …

by SnowLeopard on Nov 13, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

say hello to Chris Dominguez or Tommy Joseph if you want even younger assuming they move him to First Base

by 49erEmpire on Nov 13, 2009 5:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Yah

And then there is HaroldS’ sig line.

by SnowLeopard on Nov 13, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

American Flag On Top of Light Tower Power

Check the sig

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 13, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

People are always poo-pooing players like Brett Myers for unspeakable acts in society. If Villalona is convicted, good. I don’t want someone like that on our team. I’m pretty sure if he was an American player and that happened in the states, there would be more outrage. Good riddance.

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by dw4848 on Nov 13, 2009 6:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

^innocent until proven guilty, eh?

by zuma420 on Nov 13, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Even in the US, defendants often rot in jail waiting for trial, and generally aren’t allowed to leave the country/state/locality.

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by Bhaakon on Nov 13, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Even in the US, defendants don’t get bail when endicted on murder charges, and generally aren’t allowed to leave the prison

by m34josh on Nov 14, 2009 3:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The article says he offered to pay the family 140K to drop the charges. Innocent men don’t usually do that.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Nov 14, 2009 5:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't go that far

The Dominican Republic’s judicial system is very different from ours. For analogy, if you tried to pay off a cop directly in the U.S., you would most likely get handcuffed. In Mexico, it is common practice to pay off authorities whether you are guilty or not.

I’d say your assumption applies more to the U.S. than the D.R., he might be paying the family off because he knows how especially unfair the system can be there.

by Giant Voodoo on Nov 14, 2009 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Let us be honest. Even in the US big corporations and the very affluent sign agreements transferring money without admitting guilt all the time. If looked at strictly as a business choice: loss a year that gets you closer to the MLB ( currently 450K -500K a year wages) the 140K spent to get closer to that pay day ( let alone free agent pay day) is gamble worth takeing.

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by daveinexile on Nov 14, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I know we all had visions of Angel Villalona leading us to the promised land, but I think we might be guilty of bending over backwards for him a little bit here. Yes, things are done differently over there, but if he were a player on a different team, (or Bengie Molina) we would all just dismiss him as a rich guy trying to buy his way out of a murder rap.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Nov 14, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I am not bending any direction here. I am just calling a spade a spade and calling out the assumption that nothing shady happens legally here all.

As for the incident itself I’ll wait and see.

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Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Nov 14, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he is trying to buy his way out because he's guilty

Or maybe he’s a 19 year old who was recently on top of the world and is now scared as hell and desperate to get out of a situation that, whether it’s of his making or not, is pretty horrible.

We really have no basis for knowing either way.

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by jcb9 on Nov 14, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly. All I know is the whole thing makes me sad. For him, and for the young man who died.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Nov 14, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t really buy the “scared as hell” excuse here. If he has 150K to pay the family, you can bet he has one of the best if not the best lawyer in the Dominican Republic. If he paid the family money, that means his lawyer advised him to do so. The problem with this is if he’s now acquitted, there’s always going to be doubt whether he’s innocent or bought his way out of a guilty charge. There’s also the chance that the government doesn’t return his visa and allow him to play ball here. I’ll be interested to see how the Giants’ handle it. I think the only way to save Angel’s career here is not only an acquittal, but the subsequent arrest and conviction of the real murderer.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Nov 15, 2009 5:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs