LOL Zimmerman wins Silver Slugger over Pablo

by tobias on Nov 12, 2009 11:57 PM PST Comment 92 comments

MLB Managers and Coaches once again fell prey to the siren song of DINGERZZ and RIBBIEZZ. Proof, once again, that chicks dig the long ball.

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Zimmerman had 8 more home runs and 16 more RBIs than Pablo.

However...

* Pablo had 11 more hits than Zimmerman (189 - 178)

* Pablo had 7 more doubles than Zimmerman (44 - 37)

* Pablo had 2 more triples than Zimmerman (5 - 3)

* Pablo had 38 points higher batting average than Zimmerman (.330 - .292)

* Pablo had 23 points higher on-base percentage than Zimmerman (.387 - .364)

* Pablo had 31 points higher slugging percentage than Zimmerman (.556 - .525)

* Pablo had 54 points higher OPS than Zimmerman (.943 - .888)

Pablo destroys Zimmerman in those last four stats. It's not even close.

I mean, OK, it's just the Silver Slugger. But, wow... as jaded a guy as I am, I'm still kind of stunned by the level of ignorance here.

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That’s really a bizarre choice. Zimmerman might be the best overall 3B, but that’s with defense taken into account.

For just the bat? Sandoval easily should have won it.

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by jponry on Nov 13, 2009 12:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Make up vote for the GG, I guess.

Yes, I know they voted for this crap weeks ago.

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by Bhaakon on Nov 13, 2009 12:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

didn’t Zimmerman win the GG though?

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by jponry on Nov 13, 2009 12:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Damn

was sure I read someone whining about him not getting it.

Er, maybe it was Grant completely leaving him off his MVP ballot.

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by Bhaakon on Nov 13, 2009 12:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s a shame as Sandoval was definately the better offense player last year. It’s a shame for the players that post-season awards are judged by such poor methods.

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by GiantFan on Nov 13, 2009 1:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

zimmerman's HR, RBI and R value were much much higher than sandovals.

by HOLDEMUPGoldenStateOfOppression on Nov 13, 2009 1:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hooray for counting stats.

by DesertFox on Nov 13, 2009 7:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Fool of a Took!

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by hairball on Nov 13, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

East Coast Bias!

by GiantFaninDodgerLand on Nov 13, 2009 2:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

You can’t even make the good team bad team argument here because the Giants’ won 88 games and the Nats were a joke. It’s further prove that there’s too many people voting that know nothing about baseball.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Nov 13, 2009 5:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

For example:

Giants edge Bears in ugly fashion

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Nov 13, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We DO play baseball in November!

by Missing Barry on Nov 13, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

10 runs – how ’bout them Giants?!?!!!

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Nov 13, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I was willing to suspend disbelief to a point

I could believe that the Giants are still playing baseball after the World Series is over. I could believe that the Cubs grew up, moved to New York, and played the Giants. I could believe that the Giants actually beat the Cubs, a legitimate contender.

But I cannot, under any circumstances, believe that the Giants won a game by 10 runs. I call shenanigans.

by quincy0191 on Nov 13, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

well

it was 10-6, but yeah, scoring 10 runs? LOLWUT

by sfoakbay on Nov 13, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What does it say that the voters were the managers and coaches?

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by SFGuy on Nov 13, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What do you think?

(Which is more than they do.)

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by owlcroft on Nov 14, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

RIB EYES!!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 13, 2009 6:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

At least he was the second best hitter at 3rd...

Pablo Sandoval		34.9	
Ryan Zimmerman		27.4
Mark Reynolds		24.6	
David Wright	        21.4	
Casey Blake		13.5	
Chipper Jones		13.4	
Martin Prado		11.5	
Jorge Cantu           	7.9	
Kevin Kouzmanoff        -1.6	
Andy LaRoche            -1.9	
Pedro Feliz	        -15.5	
Emilio Bonifacio	-21.5<pre/>

Based on Fangraphs bating value
Batting - Park Adjusted Runs Above Average based on wOBA

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by say hey nation on Nov 13, 2009 6:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Good point...

That David Wright didn’t win has to be considered an upset. Sure, he only had 10 dingerzz, but…DAVID WRIGHT!! He batted .307!! If Wright had won, sportswriters and Mets’ fans would’ve become OBP converts for the day (TOPS AMONG THRID BASEMENS!!!). I can almost imagine them even citing his 27 stolen bases.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Nov 13, 2009 7:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The evidence was there; you didn’t need to hit voters over the head with it.

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by Goofus on Nov 13, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe the voters were scared that Mexico would join the war on the side of the German/Austrian-Hungarians/Turks, or that folk musicians would start playing electric guitars, if they didn’t give the award to the Big Z.

Or maybe they were just stoopid.

by SnowLeopard on Nov 13, 2009 7:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Anti-Hugo Chavez Bias

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Nov 13, 2009 7:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

My Two Jokes

The Zimmerman Telgraph, and Robert “Bob Dylan” Zimmerman.

Get it?

by SnowLeopard on Nov 13, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t believe in Zimmerman.

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by groug on Nov 13, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The dream is over

What can I say?

by SnowLeopard on Nov 13, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I regard this as proof that having a better offense around you makes you seem like a better hitter.

At least Zimmerman is a pretty good hitter.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Nov 13, 2009 7:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Also, playing in a park that doesn’t destroy HR numbers from your primary side makes you a better-appearing hitter.

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by cornball on Nov 14, 2009 7:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I was listening to Home Plate on XM last night. The hosts got into a pretty good discussion about Pablo last night. They and most of the callers agreed that he should have won the SS over Zimm, just as he should have been voted into the ASG.

He’s not a household name yet, but he’ll get there soon. Needs more dingerz, probably.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Nov 13, 2009 8:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

what a joke

A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.

by wjackalope on Nov 13, 2009 8:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

It's ok

The Panda will just win every award next year.

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by Natto on Nov 13, 2009 10:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

This

His name's Clayton, not Danny.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Nov 13, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Carlos Zambrano had more home runs than Randy Winn. :(

by Natto on Nov 13, 2009 10:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

CLEANUP HITTER!

by quincy0191 on Nov 13, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

BOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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by satyricrash on Nov 13, 2009 10:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

You Forgot That

Pablo has 15 more pounds than Zimmerman (245 – 230), despite being 4 inches shorter (5’11" – 6’3").

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by Azantor on Nov 13, 2009 10:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

LOL FAT

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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 13, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

rubinesque

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by Headhunter Rollins on Nov 13, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

BODY BIAS!!!

by Merope on Nov 13, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Zimmerman: All Star
Pablo: NOT AN ALL STAR

Vote closed.

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by scout6 on Nov 13, 2009 11:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I BLAME CHARLIE MANUEL!

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by djp4cal on Nov 13, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Pablo had 23 points higher on-base percentage than Zimmerman (.387 - .364)

Pablo lost because he cheats the game

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by Gobroks on Nov 13, 2009 12:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

/tears down his Sandoval posters

by Natto on Nov 13, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s because Pablo was linked to performance-enhancing bamboo

by quincy0191 on Nov 13, 2009 1:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

They give out the Gold Gloves to good hitters, maybe they’re just trying to be fair and give the Silver Sluggers to good fielders.

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by JakeS on Nov 13, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Considering that Sandoval

Played 1/5th of his games at a position other than 3rd base I’d say YES they got the SS awards right.

by AthleticsReign on Nov 13, 2009 2:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Uh… ok.

by Natto on Nov 13, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t you understand? That’s totally his fault.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 13, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What was his fault is obviously

NOt convincing the committee to allow him to be voted in as the SS at the catcher position.

by AthleticsReign on Nov 13, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And which committee would this be?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 13, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You’re right. He played 1/5th of his games at a position other than third base, so he shouldn’t win the SS for third. But he did play three games at catcher, so he should win the SS for catcher.

by quincy0191 on Nov 13, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL... you're joking, right?

I mean, this is ONE time that THIS GUY HERE (points to self with thumbs) isn’t falling into the SARCHASM, OK??

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Nov 14, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The coaches and managers that

Vote on the award silly….jeez.

by AthleticsReign on Nov 13, 2009 3:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

ur dum

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 13, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And your ugly so I guess we are even?

by AthleticsReign on Nov 13, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

by Natto on Nov 13, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I would much rather be ugly than dumb.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 13, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Especially on the interwebz when ugly people are pretty hard to spot but dumb ones stick out.

by quincy0191 on Nov 13, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sooo you actually...

admit that you are ugly? I commend you Sir for being a pioneer for your kind. I’d actually rather be dumb than ugly. I mean how many dumb people do you know? I could probably rattle of a dozen right now. But how many ugly people do you actually know? Both are subjective of course but ugly is at the very end of the spectrum. How many Ugly people do you know that actually have a happy life?

by AthleticsReign on Nov 13, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You’re weird, sir.

by Natto on Nov 13, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed... that am I.

by AthleticsReign on Nov 13, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No, im not ugly. But thats really more of an opinion. And I cant prove it without posting a picture.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 13, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That sounds like something an ugly would say...

When you follow up your statement with an open ended response, that casts a negative light onto whether you believe your attractive or not. Based off this we can rule out your definitely not a looker or hot by any means. Which leaves you being ordinary. Not attractive not ugly just you… congratulations.

by AthleticsReign on Nov 13, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs