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Help spread the word and join our Facebook group to keep the A's in Oakland where they belong and out of Giants territory. We are now at over 13,200 members and counting!!

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Please don't forget to click on the link to sign the petition at either the FB page or the link provided below and remember to PASS IT ON by clicking the "Suggest to Friends" link at left, and invite everyone you know to join us. Help us keep the A's in Oakland! This information will be used to present to Major League Baseball and team ownership, so we can show them the strong grassroots support for keeping the A's in Oakland.

http://letsgooakland.com/

 

"Twenty years ago, the San Francisco Giants and Oakland A's faced off for baseball's biggest prize. But today, the players — on the field and in the front office — have changed, and so has the prize: Now it's Bill Neukom vs. Lew Wolff competing for the city of San Jose.

With a three-quarters vote, baseball's owners can terminate the Giants' territorial rights to the South Bay and let the A's move to San Jose. But first, a commission appointed by Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig is studying the A's stadium options. That committee met Thursday with San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed and other city officials who've been assembling plans for a privately financed $489 million ballpark.

Still, many say the decision over territorial rights really lies with Selig, a college fraternity brother of Wolff's who encouraged the developer to invest in the A's.

However, Selig's committee may conclude that a move to the South Bay would make the most money for baseball's owners. MLB teams participate in revenue sharing, where the wealthiest teams end up supporting less lucrative ones like the A's. Team boosters are certain a move to the more demographically affluent San Jose would lead to higher ticket sales and end the team's taking subsidies from the revenue pool.

The Giants also are fighting to hold onto that affluent South Bay fan base, as well as the profitable advertising deals, sponsorships and club suites the team has secured at AT&T park with high profile Silicon Valley companies.

The Giants said that without revenue from Silicon Valley, the team "couldn't afford the stadium it plays in, which was built without a public subsidy and is heavily leveraged." Giants Senior VP/Communications Staci Slaughter: "Obviously, our financing is tied to our sponsorship revenue, our ticket revenue, and we have certain goals we have to hit. And if you have a large share of your sponsors coming from that area, that's a critical part of the equation."

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/131639

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no one cares

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Nov 11, 2009 4:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Elitist

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 11, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Gary Radnich

…Wait, that would be “nobody cares”, wouldn’t it?

Well, I care! Deeply! What are we talking about?

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Nov 13, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no

Adopted brother of Jason Jarvis.

by j14 on Nov 11, 2009 4:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Changing the World: One Facebook Group at a Time

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Nov 11, 2009 4:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

isn’t this like the fifth time you have tried to drum up interest in this cause around here?

by FluLikeSymptoms on Nov 11, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

pretty sure that GIANTS BRASS is already all over this.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Nov 11, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hi! I’m OAKLANDathletics. You may remember me from such irritating fanposts as: “Help us Keep the A’s in Oakland and OUT of Giants’ Territory,” and “Help us Keep the A’s in Oakland.”

by ryanmiles on Nov 11, 2009 4:35 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Just what I was thinking.

The next thing that came to mind was something about a broom picture (too soon to joke about that?).

"Well, um, actually a pretty nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I don't know, I don't know if we'll have enough time."

by Azantor on Nov 12, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 11, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yay, lamebook!

by Hamed on Nov 12, 2009 3:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Internet petitions always work

Look at how Chris Cohan was ousted as owner of the Warriors a few years ago. Oh, wait…

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Nov 11, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t Oakland Giants territory before that A’s moved in? GTFO! and settle somewhere for more than like 10 years. BTW I hear San Juan, Puerto Rico is a GREAT baseball town.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 11, 2009 4:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Having a team in Puerto Rico would be kinda cool, but the novelty would probably wear off quickly.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 11, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets experiment with the A’s!

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 11, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear Kansas City wants a slightly more competitive team. The A’s could move back there.

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Nov 11, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tijuana is another option. I hear the potential owner has a lot of cash he has to launder.

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 11, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The A’s would be a poor choice for that.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Nov 12, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

undestroy Shibe Park

Philadelphia can be the luckiest city since Hiroshima and Oakland

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!

by natteringnabob on Nov 13, 2009 7:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a generous guy...

let them have Sacramento. Or Portland even.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Nov 11, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

satyricrash would not be pleased.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 11, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WHEN AM I EVER???

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Nov 11, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PLEASE HIM NOW!

The baseball Satanist

by thehavenot on Nov 11, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 11, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please Please Me!

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 11, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NOT Sacramento. I don’t want to be stuck watching those muckity-mucks 160 something games a season!

I don’t watch basketball…but if I did I’d be stuck with the flipping Kings: Warriors games are blacked out here (which from what I hear might actually be a good thing) I don’t want some network schmuck deciding that my team is now the A’s just because they moved to Sacramento.

by Merope on Nov 11, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HEY!

They’ve won two whole games this season!
And are getting killed tonight.
Sigh…

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Nov 11, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

last time i was in portland the newspapers seemed to indicate that they’re having a hard enough time keeping the beavers in town.

by FPTV on Nov 11, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they’re not very smart.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Nov 11, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no stadium

Beavers moving across the river (presumably across a dam they build) to Vancouver WA.

I hope they change their mascot back to the Mounties, to maximize the fail.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!

by natteringnabob on Nov 13, 2009 7:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL @ the “Home of the _____nd Athletics”

say hey nation is the Ralph Nader of McC.-Xanthan

by say hey nation on Nov 11, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Image in funny as hell even without the whatever that is.

Wrecked.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Nov 12, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Admiral Ackbar

Position Supreme Commander of the Rebel Alliance Fleet
Homeworld Mon Calamari
Species Mon Calamari
Gender Male
Affiliation Rebel Alliance, New Republic

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Nov 13, 2009 7:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this is still awesome

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Nov 11, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love this

"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings

by SFGuy on Nov 11, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

It’s the Notre Dame Athletics.

"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings

by SFGuy on Nov 11, 2009 6:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The girls high school in downtown SJ?

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Nov 12, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs


Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Nov 11, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Noob

My Spheal already evolved into a Walrein

by quincy0191 on Nov 11, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I Am the Walrein

Coo Coo Ca Choo

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 11, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's "goo goo ga joob", doggone it

By the way, did you know that Paul is dead?

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Nov 13, 2009 7:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But he’s the Walrus!

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 13, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh man OH MAN this makes me laugh so much

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Nov 11, 2009 4:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

laughed my way through a reply fail

YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL

by heimy25 on Nov 11, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As I remember it, this has been tried before AND we were insulted with the “Giants have no titles” bull crap.

"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings

by SFGuy on Nov 11, 2009 5:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Almost 12,000 members!!!

That’s like every person that attended an A’s game since 1990. WOW. Keep up the good work.

I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.

by The Thrill on Nov 11, 2009 5:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

and it’s like 1/100th of the people who signed up for the group to get that guy to turn his house into a pirate ship.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Nov 11, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If each one of them gives a dollar

they’ll have $12,000 to pay for a new stadium.

None of the western alternatives that are mentioned for the A’s have any money for a stadium, nor real estate markets vibrant enough to generate redevelopment/sales taxes that usually pay for recent stadium projects and bonds. The A’s have no money to throw at the Giants to get them to go along. Oakland will not vote to pay for a new stadium.

Other than that, they should have no problem.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!

by natteringnabob on Nov 13, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh god,

Again? Really?

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Nov 11, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

hi

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Nov 11, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I know why us Giants fans want the A’s out of San Jose, I just can’t figure out why it matters to an A’s fan.

by Missing Barry on Nov 11, 2009 8:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you’d think they’d welcome that. Larger market, more $$$, maybe they’d actually win something!

But as an SJ resident, no thanks.

by quincy0191 on Nov 11, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, good luck with that

I still believe in Bowkermania.

by rightcenterfielder on Nov 11, 2009 8:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

/waits until tomorrow when the OP responds to each taunt.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Nov 11, 2009 9:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

/still waiting

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Nov 12, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But I want the A’s to move to San Jose…

Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club

by jwizzle241 on Nov 12, 2009 1:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

no

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 12, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no x 2

We already have minor league baseball in SJ.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Nov 12, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Boo!

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 12, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, you don’t.

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Nov 12, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe if the fans of your team went to games…

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Nov 12, 2009 7:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

They’ll just go to games on Facebook instead.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Nov 12, 2009 8:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“Help spread the word and join our GetOuttaMyFacebook group…”

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Nov 12, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kinda hope they land in SJ.

Being raised there i know that they’ll get a lot of support from the city just like the Sharks

by thecity23 on Nov 12, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Boooo!

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 12, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Shark City

sounds a lot better than Athletic Supporter City

Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard

by SoFa King Mike on Nov 12, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome, he’s back.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by scout6 on Nov 12, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The A’s in Tijuana would guarantee the Mexicans declare war on us for crimes against humanity.

It's always Noonan somewhere.

by sectionop92 on Nov 13, 2009 12:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Only if the Raiders move there.

"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings

by SFGuy on Nov 13, 2009 1:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to me if SJ isnt smart enough to keep the As out....

they’ll just wind up getting what they deserve.

Plotting the ultimate demise of Gore51 (never met him, I dunno he could be swell) so as to adopt Kyle Nicholson.

"I don’t know much about sabre-stats but there’s nothing better than white tea and poptarts first thing in the morning" - tk

by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Nov 12, 2009 2:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If the A's moved out of the Bay Area completely...

…that would make my Giants season tickets more valuble, right?

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Nov 12, 2009 3:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

LISTEN TO LARS HES AN ACCOUNTANT

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Nov 12, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This makes no sense. Wouldn’t a GOOD A’s fan want the team to get out of that shit hole of a stadium they have now and into anything better? As a Giant’s fan… I’d much rather travel down to beautiful San Jose than into shitty Oakland to see the Giants play them in Interleague… anything but that stadium.

by zuma420 on Nov 12, 2009 6:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I like Oakland because it's cheap.

Also, moving the A’s to the Bay Area’s biggest population center will hurt the Giants in the long run.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Nov 12, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not only it SJ the biggest city in the Bay, that could seriously jeopardize our Silicon Valley money. The A’s moving to SJ would be bad.

by Missing Barry on Nov 12, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

We’d probably lose the most accessible minor league affiliate.

VAE PVTO DEVS FIO

by Bhaakon on Nov 13, 2009 1:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Get on that Facebook page NOW, people!

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Nov 13, 2009 7:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How about the Oakland Giants?

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Nov 14, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not only it SJ the biggest city in the Bay

It’s also the 10th largest city in the country (and in the running for most boring).

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Nov 13, 2009 8:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It reminds me of Smell-A.

WHY IS BOCOCK?!

by Lars The Wanderer on Nov 13, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love LA—but only for 2 or 3 days at a time.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Nov 13, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You have a dysfunctional relationship with a major metropolitan area.

Utter frustration and futility.

by Johnny Disaster on Nov 13, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

beautiful San Jose

They’re moving to Costa Rica? That’s the only beautiful SJ I ever heard of.

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."

Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!

by natteringnabob on Nov 13, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough… San Jose isn’t that beautiful… but it’s better than Oakland.

I still don’t see Giants fans becoming A’s fans because the team moved to San Jose.

by zuma420 on Nov 13, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually just burned my giant’s hat and bought a Christmas green A’s hat because I was so excited about them moving to San Jose!!

Go A’s.

Go Jack Crust!!

Hip Hip Hooray!!!

Look at me wearing batting gloves and waiving a stupid ass flag in the bleachers!!!!

I have finally accepted the fact that I will never win a McCoven award.

by The Thrill on Nov 13, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

White cleats!

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 13, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WHOOOO

GO……uhh………

/doesnt know anyone on the A’s

#1 threat to America: Pandas
Also, Tim Lincecum
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Nov 13, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

GO RICKEY HENDERSON??

"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings

by SFGuy on Nov 14, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In your defense, neither do A’s fans.

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory

by Natto on Nov 14, 2009 12:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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