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Mr. Sabean, Mr. Bochy I have something I'd like to say

 

Even though Sabes and Boch say they don't have contracts, it's highly likely that they will be brought back for another year, and though I wish I could be wrong, my dreams of their release have for the most part been shattered.

I know there have been multiple posts about what we need to do for this offseason, but I've been hoping to put in my two cents about what we should do and though you're probably thinking, what can a 19 year old girl possibly have to say about this? Well as a SF Giants Superfan since the age of 6 I have their best interests at heart.

First of all like thousands of people before me have said, we need to get a big bat, preferably two (one to be a clean-up hitter, the other to work later in the rotation). The fact that we had pretty bad offense, finishing last OBP, 13th in runs scored, and 14th in slugging % really says something. The whole point is that too many times we've had people on base with the go ahead run on third with or the tying man on 1st or 2nd and we've blown it.

Second, I have some (modest) suggestions.

 

  1. Please, please, please get rid of Edgar Renteria. I know he was "injured" all season and that's why he hasn't been able to produce this year (or last year) but honestly. He will probably not get better. He's already in his mid thirties and is getting older and for the most part, we don't become more athletic and agile as we get older.
  2. Figure out what to do with Rowand, because he's killing me. Don't get me wrong, Rowand is a good fielder. He does well out there but the dude cannot bat for shit. Let me rephrase that, for the most part Rowand can bat when we're winning, but when we need that bat he swings at the two outside pitches and watches the one right in the strike zone.
  3. Randy Winn...right field...excellent batter? No...but my hopes that Winn will be gone by next season are realized, however his inability to bat should have earned him the bench (not like he was that great of a fielder either), possibly subbing him in at the end innings, but we can't change the past.
  4. Torres seems to be promising, if he can be consistent and repeat this end of season success that he had, start him out there.
  5. See where Ishikawa is at and place him out there accordingly. If his batting steps it up (which I kind of hope for) play him, if not find a 1st baseman...preferably one that can bat.
  6. Bengie Molina...good catcher but I'm sorry the guy has to go. He's getting older, is out of shape and sometimes I'm scared he won't make it to first on a single. The guy can't run, even though he has the 20 home runs, he's not a clean-up hitter and really doesn't play small ball well. Especially for a guy his size squatting so long is probably not good on his knees. I say let him get his free agency, let him go to another team (besides is he REALLY worth what he's going to want us to pay him? Let's be honest, the guy is going to want a lot of money) and let Whiteside and Posey catch. Posey is promising and the only way the kid is going to get better and get to major league level is by playing him.
  7. Tim Lincecum...arbitration...lock him up...NOW
  8. Get a great hitting coach. No not necessarily to teach them how to hit (though they could work on getting the ball in the other direction) but to teach them some plate discipline. Barry Bonds had some of the best plate discipline I think I've seen and it was insanely effective. The guys swing WAY too much at balls they shouldn't be swinging at. They swing at all the away and high balls and get lucky. If they had better plate discipline, the amount of walks we would get would be enormously better than this year. Pablo Sandoval led the team in walks and that guy swings at practically everything. Now Sabean says that we need a batter that can compliment the free swinging...no Sabes, we need to stop that bad habit of swinging at everything and get a batter who can teach these guys to be somewhat picky with pitches.
  9. Though it's not likely we could afford it, take a look at soon-to-be free agent Matt Holliday (who will probably stay with St. Louis if Pujols takes a little less money) and Jason Bay and see what we can do with them. I think Freddy Sanchez won't be too bad if he stays healthy (which is an issue).
  10. Give Madison Bumgarner a chance, see what the kid can do and work accordingly. Same reasoning as Posey, he's not going to get better if he doesn't get the chance to play and learn from his mistakes. Actually just start playing the younger guys. They aren't going to get better if they don't play consistently. Playing once a week or once every two weeks is not consistent enough to get these guys into playing shape.

Sadly I doubt that everything I dream will happen. But hopefully Sabean and Bochy will get some kind of clue and do what's best for the team and the franchise. I think they can do it! I mean it's not like Sabean has the reputation for picking and overpaying past their prime vets that are either injured or who fail at the plate or just crap in general...and it's not like Bochy will consistently play vets who prove to not do much for the flailing offense and only play the young guys in the last few games of the season....


Oh wait.


So what do you think? Am I totally off base here?

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by ACgiant97 on Oct 7, 2009 8:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NOW!!

Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.

by satyricrash on Oct 7, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m still not sure what I believe regarding changing hitters’ approaches. I do think it’s partly natural and if you want patient hitters, you have to get them or teach them very early. However, I remember reading in moneyball that the A’s told their prospects they had to increase their walk rates, and they did, although I don’t have the stats, but maybe it is possible then.

And a quick note re Bay: His terrible fielding might not be as problematic if we were able to start torres in cf (not sure if that’s what you were suggesting) b/c then torres could help with balls in the gap. Besides, his hitting would be especially valuable to this team, with his power and nice obp.

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by raisingcain on Oct 7, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to finish that thought (had to leave in the middle)

If you trust torres’ stats from this season, there wouldn’t really be a problem giving him a good number of starts in center. Unfortunately, we all know rowand’s not going anywhere, and I really don’t have that much faith in torres being good enough to start in 2010. The defense and speed are nice; the bat worries me. If average-fielding rowand is in center, that does make bay less attractive, imo.

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by raisingcain on Oct 7, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the bork!?!

by koel on Oct 7, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well put

The only part you were off base on was the part about Randy Winn not being a great fielder. And I wish there was anything at all we could do with Rowand, but alas, I’m sure all the other teams that strike him out on sliders into the backstop are very aware he’s not worth his contract. Same with Renteria. Really all we can do is let him play and see if he rebounds, unless we’re really willing to release him and eat 9 mil. And I also think we should let Garko start at 1st and see what happens. I have no faith in Ishikawa’s bat.

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Oct 7, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seconded.

On the Garko part mainly because if the management thought enough to trade a nice arm for him they better have enough guts to use him even when he isn’t going well. If management is already sick of Garko what the heck were they doing trading what they did for him and way are they being extended again?

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Oct 8, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of new and intriguing ideas

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Oct 7, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There must be a newsletter to which we can subscribe...

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Oct 8, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Girlz on the Internet?!

/hi-fives

Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)

by tk on Oct 7, 2009 10:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we’ve had people on base

I must have missed that game.

Randy Winn has actually been a fine RF in AT&T, which is saying a lot about his D. AT&T RF = not easy.

I have personally had enough of Ish. Will he have a breakout year offensively next year? Not likely No.

Your point about the hitters going to the opposite field is true, for the most part. Pablo, Freddy Sanchez, Lewis, Rent all know how to go to the opposite field. Rowand on the other hand, is absolutely horrible going to the opposite field. If Scott would learn to go to RF then we would be complaining a lot less about the hole in his swing when it comes to sliders from RHPs. Maybe he’d foul a few off and then get a pitch to drive to LF. If he doesn’t prove that he can go to RF and change the his scouting report the we are in store for much, much, much more of the same.

Here is a Rowand Spray Chart for this year:

The marks in the OF somewhat contradict my point, but notice the damage wound to the left side of the INF. A lot of those were rollovers on outside pitches that could have been something driven to the right side rather than a 47 hopper to the 3B.

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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

agreed and i swear I don’t know how many times where we’ve had guys on base that could have tied & extra inning(s)/won the game and we’ve blown it. Especially in the last few starts its been frustrating when it’s happened

please giants...don't make me cry like I did in 02....
Well Timmy...you make me cry tears of joy.

by sanfrankid on Oct 7, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note: Obviously the chart is only at AT&T. I couldn’t figure out how to get it to display it for all games.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Oct 7, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how much of the IF blotch is due to him rolling over on offspeed stuff.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Oct 7, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed with point.

Freaking awesome to see small spray chart posted that is legible! How did you manage that and get it to post?

/ shows his youth when people still watch black &white movies on TV

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Oct 8, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just screen captured the image. uploaded it in flikr, and used it here.

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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Oct 8, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if only we could find a way

to get rid of the opposing teams’ shortstop. Rowand would bat .450.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 8, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/ pageing Robert DeNiero’s charater in The Fan.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Oct 8, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You lost me at number 4. A weak hitting, fully replaceable, 30+ commodity who plays a position where we have some of the most roster flexibility on the entire team… and we’re actually CONTENT to just stick with him? I can’t do it. I can’t. I don’t care how many times xanthan says he’s intriguing.

Also, to number 5.: Uh… Garko. Dude’s a better hitter than Ishikawa and we have him under control.

And for number 10.: We don’t have to rush Bumgarner. He could sit all year, start for the team in 2011 and still be younger than Lincecum was when he made his debut. /doesn’t check math there.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 7, 2009 10:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I could quibble with some other points and I could agree wholeheartedly with some other points, but it’s not as fun to do those wishy washy sorts of things.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 7, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get you, but I’m saying Torres at the end of the season was actually putting up somewhat decent numbers. Maybe it looked better b/c the offense was done by the end but a couple of HR in a game. I’m saying that if Torres can be consistent and keep up the bat (which I know maybe I’m asking too much) he should play. I’d rather have him in the line-up than Rowand personally but maybe it’s just my hatred for Rowand coming through. As for Garko I can see your point. And for Bum yeah I know he’s still crazy young but Sabes wasn’t even really open to the idea of letting Bum play which I think if you let him play a little, (not necessarily one of the starting 5) but relieving here and there and just getting experience would be beneficial. In no way do I think he’s ready to start but give him some playing time and it’ll help in the long run.

please giants...don't make me cry like I did in 02....
Well Timmy...you make me cry tears of joy.

by sanfrankid on Oct 7, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the plan is to make Madbum a starter, then he should be starting somewhere, probably in AAA. I think the back-and-forth between starter and reliever hurt Jonathan Sanchez’s development, and I’d rather not see the same thing done to Madbum.

By the way, what’s the proper possessive there? Is Sanchez’s correct?

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by neurofarm on Oct 7, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

and I agree.

using MadBum in the pen is probably not really going to do much to advance his secondary pitches, which is what he sorely needs right now. He should either be starting in the majors (not ideal) or in Fresno (this one.) But the bullpen is not the place for a future starting pitcher who needs to develop his breaking stuff/changeup. He can get by on just his fastball out of the pen – we can’t let that happen.

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by jponry on Oct 7, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carried! ( neurofarm first, jponry seconded).

As for The President ( Madison) don’t rush him. He will get the MLB level to stay when he masters a couple of his non fastball pitches. Tell then they just have work him and keep him form injuring himself.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Oct 8, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in a good mood. I'll go ahead and cover the rest of your points.

I won’t be convinced by anybody about Torres… even as just an “intriguing” guy. I think he’s a great bench player, and I think there is an overabundance of evidence to support that.

However, the point about Garko is only half-fold. His offense is perfectly adequate, but it’s not the wonderful stuff that first basemen are made of. It is better than Ishikawa but they trade some of that back on defense. The real points in his favor are that he’s cheap and we have control of him for a few years. First base is an area where we should be able to improve if we want to, but Garko’s track record is good enough that I wouldn’t throw a hissy fit if we didn’t.

I would throw a hissy fit if we didn’t at least TRY to improve on Torres (or Torres / Velez, to be more specific).

I agree with you in principle on 1 and 2, but Renteria / Rowand are two guys I’m just accepting. They aren’t going anywhere, and they’re probably starting. Rowand can be a pretty seriously bad player sometimes, but he averages out to a guy I can accept when I take a step back. Renteria is frustrating to high hell, but I really just don’t know what can be done about it given the long track record of Sabean not to appreciate sunk costs.

I liked Winn, but I’m glad he won’t be back (fingers crossed!).

I’ll throw a fit if Molina is back. Sadly, it seems like they want him. There really is no good reason to go into 2010 with anybody but Posey as the starting catcher, and I hate the fact that these people seem to think otherwise.

I would like very few things more than a long-term contract for Tim Lincecum. Even if it does go to arbitration, I’d be pretty pissed if they lowballed him when they’ve given out contracts like Zito’s, Rowand’s and Renteria’s all so very recently.

The hitting coach is probably pretty negligible, in my opinion.

And as for number 9, I stay STRICTLY away from rosterbation if I can help it in any way. Me and rosterbation, we don’t mix. It’s like masturbating, but masturbating that involves the entire Giants roster. And I’m just not comfortable enough to deal with that.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 7, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I posted this on some other thread the other day, but if you take Andres Torres’s minor league MLEs for 2007-09 and add them to his major-league stats for 2009, you get a line of .245/.306/.402. That’s three years worth of stats, so it’s safe to say that that’s who he is. (But note that these are conservative MLEs; other systems would give him better numbers.)

The average MLB center fielder hits .271/.333/.423. That’s ten to fifteen runs better than Torres’s stats. So the question is, how good is Torres with the glove? I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that he’s ten to fifteen runs above average as a fielder. If so, you’re getting an average player for $500k. Forget about “intriguing” — that’s a good move on its face.

by Evan on Oct 8, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Torres won’t be getting most of his starts next year in center, will he? Realistically, the team is still committed to Rowand as an everyday starter in center. I’m sure this doesn’t make a HUGE difference, and I would hate to ignore platoon considerations, but even then… and I mean, I’m not saying that Torres was a bad acquisition. I think he was a good acquisition, and I like having him on the team.

But making a verbal commitment (for whatever that’s worth, I know) to not try to improve on a 32-next-year-old perfectly average (optimistically?) centerfielder with very limited major league experience who isn’t costing you money to sit on the bench is very frustrating to me.

When I look at roster flexibility, I see C, 3B, 2B, SS, and CF as positions where the team feels like they simply won’t be making significant moves. Then, 1B should be a position they’re looking to improve, but history says they won’t. So the only places where I see the roster having any real flexibility this offseason – sadly – is the corner outfield. And I simply don’t see how Velez or Torres, both of them hitting their ceilings as average players, should be accepted as guys who should be handed one of those spots.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 8, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For me, projecting Torres is mostly useful for deciding how much of Aaron Rowand’s salary you’re willing to eat to move him. I’m convinced that Torres is 95% as good as Rowand, and quite possibly better. So if I can get anyone to take Rowand off my hands, even if it costs up to $6 million a year in sunk costs, I’m going to do it.

Assuming Rowand stays, though … I do think RF is basically a second CF at our park, so starting Torres in right wouldn’t be the worst idea in the world. But I agree it should be a fallback position.

by Evan on Oct 8, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely, Evan. Trading Rowand would be worth whatever salary relief we can end up with. Torres would be fine as my starting CF (as would have Rajai Davis, but that ship has sailed), and I’d even give Lewis a look there, or maybe even Velez. And Clay Timpner can handle the defense there – so we’d have some options without The Gamer.

"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009

by Lyle on Oct 8, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When it comes to defense vs. offense, Timpner is where I draw the line. Torres is a .360 OBP player in AAA, with some power; Timpner is around .320, with none. There’s just no way he can field well enough to be worth a roster spot.

by Evan on Oct 8, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

about davis

i really don’t think he is going to be putting up the offensive nimbers that he;s putting up this year, but he can still be slightly average offensively and have the WHEELS and defense and be an average major leaguer…
kinda like torres!

by sfoakbay on Oct 8, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

VROOOOOM!

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I’m pretty much in total agreement there.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 8, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/ stamped agreed

No if only we could get the front office to go along and not, at the last moment, trade for Juan Pierre to man Center Field.

/ repeatedly bangs head on desk

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Oct 8, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Garko. His offense used to be perfectly adequate. For the last two years, he’s been pretty bad. He might rebound to the .290/.360/.480 hitter he used to be, but I’d call it a longshot.

by Evan on Oct 8, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Renteria

you should also consider that SS is a very difficult position to replace. That’s why we ended up with Renteria in the first place. I think it’s probably best to hope for a little bounce back, and slowly take PAs from him with Uribe if he continues to show he cannot play.

It’s not a good solution… but other ones go down the Bocockian path.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 8, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

so much this

by sfoakbay on Oct 8, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beware of the Torress/Uribe trap. These are the type of players that if properly used are huge assets to their team: even post season AL teams. However if improperly used things get very, very bad and managements tend to not dress what ever underlining problem they are covering up for years running.

 Over all well presented points. Welcome aboard. No, I am not interested in cleaning the basement but thanks for asking. ;)

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Oct 8, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Torres may be a useful fifth outfielder, but nothing more.

by koel on Oct 9, 2009 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m glad to see another GIRL ON THE INTERNET here, though I don’t really agree with several of your points. I do kind of parrot Howie on Torres… I think he’ll be a fantastic bench player but I think we’ll be sorely regretting it by June if we go into next season with him as a starting player.

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by jponry on Oct 7, 2009 11:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

But Torres/Velez is our leadoff hitter!
All sarcasm aside, anyone but Rowand in the leadoff spot.

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by cain1rstballothof on Oct 8, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You k.now I'll even take Scott there.

It is darn hard to GiDP in the #1 hole. Basically though I agree Scott should only be allowed out of the 6-8 spots when he is on a hitting rampage.

That’s it! Katie bar the door for this 79 win team is star crossed! And I am loving it.

by daveinexile on Oct 8, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he takes up

the 6th THROUGH the 8th slots.

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 9, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't about starting Torres...

He’s better than Velez though.. And I definitely like him on the team.

by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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