Yet Another Modest Proposal
It's silly season for baseball. Without any games of note, the idle mind turns to rosterbation. As the offseason progresses, it becomes more complex and convoluted. It moves from "sign six players for a combined $100B," to a four-way deal that uses obscure passages from the collective bargaining agreement to get Hanley Ramirez for Dan Runzler and 19th-century promissory notes from the Bank of New Amsterdam.
I'm as guilty as anyone. I'm just itching to write my "sign Nick Johnson" post. Today, though, should be reserved for wacky roster ideas. Try Ryan Garko at catcher. Move Sergio Romo to the rotation. Mike McBryde to the mound. Buster Posey to shortstop! Stuff like that. Is there anything you've been ruminating on for a while -- maybe last year you wondered if Eugenio Velez could be a left fielder, and, by gum, you wish you had spoken up -- but you've been too scared to acknowledge publicly?
This comes up because I'm convinced that Nate Schierholtz can become a major league center fielder. Heck, he can become a very good one. His UZR was off the charts in a small sample this season in right field, and he certainly passes the eyeball test. He's fast, has a very good arm, and seems to take good routes to the ball. Well, I think he takes good routes in right field; it might be a different story when the level of competition is being set by guys like Matt Kemp and Andrew McCutchen.
But if Schierholtz can be an average defender in center, he doesn't have to de-Giants his bat in order to succeed. If he plateaus at .290/.330/.440 -- not too wild-eyed of a projection -- he'd still be a viable starter. Not that any non-Rowand will start for the Giants in center until 2013, but it'd be a way to make Schierholtz a pretty dandy fourth outfielder. If he's limited to a corner spot, he's not nearly as impressive of a young player.
You can comment on the Schierholtz-to-center idea, throw in your own Thomas Neal-to-third idea, or you can just talk about what vegetables you find delicious or disgusting, which is probably why you even checked in with the site today.
And I think I've figured out a way to get Ian Kinsler for Merkin Valdez and Scott Barnes. I'll wait until right before the Winter Meetings to post it so the Giants' Brass keeps it fresh in their minds.
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Sabean’s too smart to get ripped off in that Kinsler trade. Yeah, like a .253 hitter is worth two hard-throwing young stud pitchers.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I like the idea of Nate in center.
Also I like that you are acknowledging that this thread will dissolve into a discussion of food.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Sorry, but this thread is non-soluble.
At least in water. If somebody brings some kind of oil to the party, I suppose all bets are off.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
NO! WATER BASED LUBE ONLY! DON’T YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE COMPOSITION OF CONDOMS?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
What is this “condom” you speak of?
by projectmayhem713 on Oct 29, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn reading comprehension.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Fred Lewis should try eating more cauliflower. I mean, somebody has to eat that stuff, and it’s not going to be me. We could also go crazy and give him playing time or something.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
LOL FRED!
He will not be a Giant in 2010.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 29, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing that’s crossed my mind is Marco Scutaro for shortstop. Edgar’s done, I expect Juan Uribe to become Juan Uribe again next year, and Lewis/Scutaro would actually provide good OBP at the top of the lineup for a change. Scutaro’s UZR has been a bit screwy the last few years, but he would hopefully be a defensive upgrade too.
It’s not happening, though.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Juan Uribe will be our starting 3B anyway.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I think the only Type A guy I’d go after is Holliday….
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I love brussels sprouts.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I’m a fan. I have an excellent recipe, too: roasted cornmeal-masala brussels sprouts. mmm.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
you best post that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I was planning on doing a recipes thread after the World Series ends. I’ll try to remember to include it.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Reminder to the king of OT threads: Pictures of your pets. We got two beagle puppies I need to show off.
"It's too late now."
the Solid Dog thread
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
ANTI CAT BIAS!
In this day and age, and on this site…
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
LOL CAT
s
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
Cats are dumb.
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When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2007/9/10/15304/7468
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Prolly needs and update at this point. Unless we just started posting on it again, heh
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
oh drr. Comments closed.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
We could definitely use a new one. That puppy’s over two years old!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still petless.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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read this as peltless.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
That’s okay. Chicks dig petless guys.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait… they dig kittens. Sorry, I always get that wrong.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
don’t forget puppies.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Blech.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
funny
that’s what I say when I SEE YOUR POSTS.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I just find brussels sprouts to be very finicky. It’s not that I haven’t had any good ones. It’s just that I so rarely do.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It is pretty easy to make brussels sprouts suck, unfortunately.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Roasting is by far the best way to cook them. Boiling sucks out the flavor and makes them slimy.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Plus then you can put tasty things on top and melt them, like breadcrumbs, or cheese.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
The only way I’m eating brussel sprouts (or broccoli) is if it’s covered in cheese.
"It's too late now."
+1
mmmmmm
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
broccoli is always good
except raw. blech. broccoli lightly steamed with some butter and black pepper
nom nom nom
I will never ever understand butter on vegetables.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
trying to think of where I wouldn't understand butter
coming up blank
Well, I honestly just don’t like the taste or mouthfeel of butter when it’s used as a topping (spread or otherwise) on anything, so vegetables would be no exception. It’s not awful or anything. Simply unpleasant.
Delicious and invaluable as an ingredient in things.
Gross to me as an unincorporated culinary element.
I guess sfoakbay never said that the butter was ON the broccoli (steamed WITH were his words), so I might have misread. I was actually thinking that he was using it the way people use butter on corn. Which grosses me out, too.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 30, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
There's a simple explanation
Clearly you must have been dropped on your head too many times as a child.
Butter is the Pablo Sandoval of food toppings. If you don’t like it, there’s just something wrong with you.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
Butter is the Pablo Sandoval of food toppings.
LOLFAT
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by howtheyscored on Oct 30, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I might try this. Any alternative to boiling them is probably a major improvement for preparation.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Roasting them with olive oil and garlic = aw yeah.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Roasting any veggie this way is the way to go. Through this method, I have discovered a hidden love of Cauliflower.
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
This technique also does wonders with sweet potatoes. I use 2 sweet potatoes, a whole head of garlic, olive oil, and seasonings like oregano, rosemary, etc. DELICIOUS. We call it sweet potato crack.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
do you slice the sweet potato thin? or dice them?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I slice them, when my wife cooks it she dices them.
I actually really like thick slices with this recipe. Gooey goodness. You just have to make sure to cook it long enough, though. Undercooked sweet potato sort of squeaks in your teeth and it’s really ooky.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Yeah, do you roast them on cookie sheet? Glass pan? Silicon mat?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
No. It wasn’t ooky! IT WAS BEAUTIFUL!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
I made mashed cauliflower a few weeks ago to see if it was a suitable substitute for mashed potatoes and it was surprisingly delicious.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
You are braver than I am.
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And I like cauliflower.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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It was seriously good! No lie!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
really?
i never liked cauliflower. or brussel sprouts. or onions. but every other vegetable is pretty much awesome
i love cauliflower, brussels sprouts and onions. omg i love onions.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
ONIONS! MMMM! EAT THEM!
seriously, is there anything that doesn’t go with onions? maybe chocolate…but that’s about it.
I tend to put the Green Mexican onions in most dishes I make
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s VERY suitable. My lass and I blended up cauliflower, red peppers, olive oil, and some spices and made a cauliflower hummus. Phenominal in wrap-form.
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
Did you boil it to cook it, then mashed it? I’m thinking about a hybrid of boiled and roasted together. Mash the boiled one, and then cut up the roasted and combine them together
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
This makes brussels sprouts the college coed of vegetables.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 29, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I had to use the Up feature for this to make sense, and it was well worth the trip.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
I had no idea that the “up” feature existed – I usually bypass that and go right for reply. Cool!
It's my blarg! Quick Pitch
And I tweet (more often than I blarg).
You know, according to Merriam-Webster, there are no male coeds. That seems like a pretty useless and antiquated definition to me.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
lulz
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Call any vegetable pick up your phone
Think of a vegetable lonely at home
Call any vegetable and the chances are good
That a vegetable will respond to you
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
ZAPPA!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
just like you hate Nashville Skyline???
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
If saying “Nashville Skyline is in no way better than John Wesley Harding” is hating Nashville Skyline, then I guess I’m guilty.
Also, brussels sprouts are way too bitter, which is like the exact opposite of Nashville Skyline.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
So brussels sprouts are more like Slow Train Coming, then.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Brussel sprouts = temporary christianity
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
temporary butthurt christianity
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Funny
That’s what jponry says when she SEES YOUR POSTS.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you didn't want me stealing your identity
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Funny
That’s what jponry says when she SEES YOUR POSTS.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I HATE POSTS.
FIND ANOTHER WAY TO KEEP YOUR CEILINGS UP DAMMIT.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Columns!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
I use a suspension system.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Please don’t talk about your sick bondage fetishes here.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
They’re not fetishes. They’re perfectly normal. I’d be happy to show you.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright, but I assure you – you’re missing out.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Buttresses!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
All of the above. Buttresses are awesome because they include butts.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Also there’s that new minor league affiliate, the Richmond Flying Buttresses.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
pretty sure that's
a Roller Derby team… except Richmond’s is the Wrecking Belles. Maybe Richmond, VA?
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Or flying buttresses
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 29, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I would mention some positions for Frandsen to play, but we all know he’ll never play anywhere on the major league team.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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he pretty much has to play for the Flying Squirrels anyway
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Setup Man.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
WACKY ROSTER IDEA: Bowker, Fred & Schierholtz should get the majority of the at-bats while Velez & Torres fight for a roster spot.
"It's too late now."
Related wacky idea: trade Velez while some of the stupider teams might still be fooled into thinking he’s good.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Is any team really that stupid? Other than maybe the Royals.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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The Giants are!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Velez for Neal!!! GIT R DUN GINTS BRASS!
by quincy0191 on Oct 29, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dayton Moore
seems pretty enamored of the VROOOOOOOOM!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Give me Kila. I’m done with this speed and defense thing. I wants some POWA!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Torres shouldn’t be fighting for a roster spot; he’s a great 4th OF. But yeah, Nate and Fred and John should be getting the majority of the OF starts that don’t go to Rowand. Except we might get Jason Bay, and at this point I don’t know if that’s good or bad.
Oh no. He linked to something. I’m afraid to click on it =/
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Yeah, I started out thinking Bay>Holliday for the price difference, but the defense scares me more and more every day. By winter I imagine I’ll hate Bay’s living guts and we’ll sign him for 6 years/$100M
Jason Bay has been worth 6.4 WAR total the last three years… Holliday was at 5.6 this year ALONE (and 6.2 last year and 7.9 two years ago).
If the Giants are going to pay out the ass for a FA OF, it really ought to be the one that’s actually a difference maker.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Me too. I was stupidly against it in-season but now I kind of wish we’d just gone all out for him back in June/July.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
I bet the price would’ve been too high – could’ve cost us Alderson AND Barnes.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 29, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
/erases McCoveys vote for jcb9, checks “The Hurt Locker” instead
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
AND Villalona
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
I got there in the final month of the season and am now in the “do whatever it takes crowd” on Holliday.
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
I was in that crowd as soon as the Giants season ended. And now I don’t think the Giants should commit that much money over what is likely to be 6+ seasons. Timmy, Matt & Panda need to get paid eventually.
"It's too late now."
Someone will just have to kill Zito and Rowand, thus freeing up money.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
Solution?
Dear Barry,
Pistols at dawn.
Signed,
AaronR
Dear Aaron,
Pistols at dawn.
Signed,
BarryZ
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 29, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rowand would just shoot 10 feet over Zito’s head.
/joke that made a lot more sense one year ago
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
Rowand would be hit. But would insist on returning to the team and starting.
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
Zombie Rowand in center.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
Fast Zombie Rowand, or Slow Zombie Rowand?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Considering Fast Zombie Rowand would be faster than Non-Zombie Rowand I’m betting Slow Zombie Rowand. Also, the 28 Days Later zombies aren’t really zombies, they’re just infected or something.
I’m no zombie expert, myself.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Infected with RAGE
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
This is true.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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I love the throwaway newscaster line at the end of Shaun that goes “Rumors that the epidemic was started by rage infested monkeys are reportedly bullsh-”
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
/beats Zombie’s with pool cue to beat of “Don’t Stop Me Now”
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Which, as any zombie experts knows, is pulled from jcb9’s ass.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
Dawn of the Dead remake zombies are fast zombies though.
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Only after he shot a bunch of bullets across a canyon.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
If the Giants are going to pay out the ass for a FA OF, it really ought to be the one that’s actually a difference maker.
Which, of course, isn’t Sabean’s way
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
SAY HELLO TO JERMAINE DYE AND/OR JOHNNY DAMON
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
“And” would be a travesty.
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Damon-Rowand-Dye OF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
SFGate/SFGiants posters suddenly wonder why the pitching staff ERA jumps up two runs.
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Nah, they’d just blame Fred.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
“Hello, Jermaine Dye and/or Johnny Damon!”
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
That wasn’t very funny. I think we need to work on our schtick.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
If we get Matt Holliday, then we’ll never be able to sign [a bunch of bench players].
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
2010 opening day LOLineup
1) Eugenio Velez LF
2) Freddy Sanchez 2B last-minute scratch due to unspecified injury
3) Jermaine Dye RF
4) Jason Bay CF
5) Bengie Molina C
6) Pablo Sandoval 1B
7) Juan Uribe 3B
8) Edgar Renteria SS
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Worked for Canada in the WBC!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I saw them play a game where they had a lead for a while!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Who pitched the game?
Jeff Francis?
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The only other Canadian pitcher I can remember off the top of my head is Rich Harden.
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Erik Bedard
Adam Loewen
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Or
Jesse Crain!
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that reminds me...
Who was that cool reliever on the Twins? Pat Neshek? WTF happened to him?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Injured....
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Oh yeah, Ryan Dempster is Canadian. And, uh, Gagne.
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I had to check the box score
It was Mark Johnson.
And by “for a while,” I mean they had the lead for about an inning.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I figured you were being sarcastic.
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I was (about anything working for Canada in the WBC), but when I looked at the box score I found I was even more sarcastic than I’d realized!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
They really did have Jason Bay in CF, though. Matt Stairs was also in the OF.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
*shock*
Yeah, agreed 100%. Although Victorino was pretty cool to the Jon & Kate family, so he went from -kajillion to (-kajillion +1) in my book.
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. – Emo Philips
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on Mar 7, 2009 11:51 AM PST up actions 0 recs
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At the time...
Oh, how things have changed. I guess he was still nice to the kids, so that’s good. Fuck the parents, obviously.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
it’s just need-based rosterbation.
Every time we make a deal where I think “well, that the first two years will be fine,” the whole contract ends up sucking.
Better than Jermaine Dye though.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
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Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
Related question
If Nate could play CF, Rowand becomes expendable.
Assuming we weren’t getting anything of value back, how much of Rowand’s remaining salary do you think we’d have to eat to unload him?
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70-100%
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
The only way I’d eat Rowand’s contract is if it’s covered in cheese.
/80% of GMs
"It's too late now."
If eating someone else’s brussel sprouts was all it took to get rid of Rowand (or Renteria, for that matter), I would be roasting some tasty sprouts right now.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
and roasted.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Have Bengie eat it
Before he leaves
Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.
I still think Rowand for Bradley is a good deal for both teams and should happen, even if we have to eat some of Rowand’s contract. The Cubs get a mediocre player for a problem player, we get a good player and we’re used to dealing with prima donna outfielders who knock the shit out of the ball. Stick Bradley in RF, Nate in CF, Bowker in LF and that’s a mediocre offense!
Too much sense
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Rowand for Soriano?
That was a suggestion at Bleed Cubbie Blue a few weeks back. Either way Rowand in Wrigley would be to their advantage (until he runs into the bricks).
Soriano’s contract is pretty horrible.
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You do know that if Posey actually did get moved to SS, we’d get Molina for 3 more years, right?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
Two Words
Jacks
Williams
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Not a catcher.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
So he’s technically played catcher, but he was drafted to play first base.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Good for you!
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
My crazy rosterbation is only if the Giants are set on having Posey start the year at AAA:
-Don’t keep Freddy Sanchez
-Re-sign Uribe for 2B
-Sign Figgins for 3B
-Sign Nick Johnson for 1B
-Have Pablo catch
Once they determine Buster is ready:
-Posey starts at C
-Pablo back to 3B
-Figgins at 2B
-Uribe at SS if Renteria still sucks, Utility if Renteria bounces back.
Beginning Line-up:
1. Figgins
2. Velez/Torres/Lewis (whoever they decide to play, I prefer Fred)
3. Johnson
4. Pablo
5. Uribe
6. Bowker/Nate
7. Rowand
8. Renteria
After Posey is called up:
1. Figgins
2. Velez/Torres/Fred
3. Johnson
4. Pablo
5. Posey
6. Uribe
7. Bowker/Nate
8. Rowand
Really didn’t put much thought into line-up construction but those would be the particulars.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 29, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
I still am not keen with the idea of jerking pablo around at many different positions. 3B to 1B is alright, but I don’t like the idea of jerking him between the corners and catcher.
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It's not suppose to make sense, this is crazy rosterbation!
I agree but I also don’t want them to a) bring Bengie back or b) spend actually money on a back-up when I think Buster will prove he is ready if they do start him at AAA. This would be only to get them through the first month or two, which I don’t think is as big a deal.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 29, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Is “Trade Sabean for an even-halfway competent GM” considered rosterbation?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
But, according to Moneyball, they can be traded for players. So, it could be rosterbation.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
I want to rosterbate right now, so the rules need to be clear on this. Can I trade Sabean + Sanchez for Beinfest? Please?
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Wait, we have 19th-century promissory notes from the Bank of New Amsterdam?
/mind splodes with the possibilities
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
Play rowand in left field
(bleachers)
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
That'll come in handy
when Howry comes in to pitch. AMIRITE?!?!?!!
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ZING!
/high five
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
The Orioles have declined Melvin Mora's 2010 option
Why do I suspect Sabean will be all over him?
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
He sucked and was hurt this year and has only had an OPS+ over 100 once in the last four years, and he’ll be 38 by opening day, but he had 23 DINGERZ in 2008!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
.340, in fact!!!!!!
(in 2004)
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Imagine if we had BOTH of them!
TWO POTENTIAL BATTING CHAMPS!!!!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
Then
We could play Mora at third, re-sign Bengie and make Pablo a utility guy (ala Mike Benjimen )!!!
Blehhh!
Also
Somehow the worst baserunner in baseball, according to BP. Almost a full win lost.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
Because Sabean wants OBP in the lineup now
At least that’s what he claims publicly. And seeing that Mora had a good spread in his OBP and BA about 4 years ago it would be Sabean’s MO to count on that kind of production next year and sign him to a stupid contract something like 3/25.
I was just playing around with lolineups and came up with this
1) Fred Lewis LF
2) Chone Figgins 2B
3) Pablo Sandoval 3B
4) Matt Holliday RF
5) Milton Bradley CF
6) Nick Johnson 1B
7) Marco Scutaro SS
8) Buster Posey C
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
I don’t hate it.
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Dude, Grant started the discussion by proposing Ian Kinsler for Dan Runzler and Merkin Valez! Now is not the time for strict realism!
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
For Scott Barnes and Merkin Valdez. Get your facts right.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Yeah, Runzler would be way overpaying.
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Well, I would find it rather impressive if Sabean could trade a player we no longer have. You know, in a kind of dada meets baseball kind of way.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
It’d be even better if he packaged the player we don’t have with a player who doesn’t exist, like Merkin Valez.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
I have a better idea:
1. Figgins 2B
2. Ramirez SS (Lincecum for Ramirez)
3. Mauer C (Posey+Bumgarner+Neal for Mauer)
4. Holliday RF
5. Sandoval 3B
6. Bradley CF (Rowand+cash for Bradley)
7. Fielder 1B (Cain for Fielder)
8. Bay LF
9. P
Rotation:
Lackey
Bedard
Wolf
Duchscherer
Zito
Opening Day payroll: $200M.
That lineup looks pretty legitimate, even if Renteria had to play SS.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 29, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Molina starting in WS tonight
Rooting as I am for the Phillies, I can’t help but feel yankee fan’s pain at having an underperforming slow Molina starting.
Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.
Is there any reason to believe, after watching the way Nate hit after the scouting report caught up to him, that he can actually maintain those numbers at the plate?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
I especially like the point in his SR that talks about throwing pitches right at him. Swings every time, even if he misses and the ball hits him!
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 29, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not have a little innocent rosterbation – improve the defense and get some OBP at the top of order…
Iwamura 2B 4.5
Bradley LF 9
Upton CF 4.5
Sandoval 1B 0.5
Beltre 3B 7
Bowker RF 0.5
Renteria SS 9
Torrealba C 2
Lincecum 10
Cain 4.5
Zito 18.5
Sanchez 3
Sonnanstine 2
Ish 1
Nate 0.5
Whites 0.5
Velez 0.5
Torres 0.5
Rohli 0.5
Wilson 4
Affeldt 4.5
Runzler 0.5
Romo 0.5
Joaquin 0.5
Medders 2
90.5
Yeah, had to trade Posey and whatever for Upton, Iwamura and Sonnanstine, but this is rosterbating, right?
Awesome.
Even in fantasy rosterbation threads that include 200 million dollar payroll suggetions, we still have Rentarrhea at SS because we know that it is beyond fantasyland to expect or hope that Sabean would make a change there. Besides he was injured last year and we haven’t seen the best of him yet.
Hmm....
I think I’ll wait for your “reasonable rosterbation” thread Grant.
Although I do like corn…
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
it’s absurd that the giants won’t even consider sandoval for C. yes, his bat could suffer a bit. but the value of having one of the better hitters in the league at C is insane. more evidence the giants FO has no concept of value.
so i propose four moves, 2 for me and 2 that would satisfy sabean and bochy’s grubby little veteran-loving hands:
sign nick johnson
move pablo to C for the first half
sign adrian beltre (cheap 1 yr with more expensive option/buyout)
extend sanchez
Lewis LF
Sanchez 2B
Johnson 1B
Pablo C
Rowand CF
Beltre 3B
Schierholtz/Bowker RF
Rentarrhea SS
Posey can join after a couple months and take half the starts at C, while Pablo rotates on the corners keeping Beltre and Johnson fresh. If Beltre doesn’t bounce back, Pablo can take over. When Nick Johnson breaks his tailbone or whatever, we have Pablo and a decent backup in Ishikawa.
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
Not that any non-Rowand will start for the Giants in center until 2013
Between you and the Yankees, Chief, this has been a depressing day for Frankenfandom.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Oct 30, 2009 12:45 AM PDT reply actions
lol @ batting fifth
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 30, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Torrealba should play first base. Maybe he’ll get some playing time then.
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