Bad karma to gloat over the McCourts?
by Giantsfan4life on Oct 28, 2009 10:23 PM PDT
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As a Giants fan, and as moral human beings, what should be our attitude be towards the personal difficulties of other people? Even when they're funny? And are happening to Dodger execs? Like, how should we react to the McCourt divorce filing? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/10/highlights-from-the-jamie-mccourt-divorce-papers.html
I mean, Jamie McCourt was a Dodger executive. And surely a 32 grand monthly clothing allowance earns some kind of WTF reaction. Or eleven K for 'personal care.' Or 400 dollars a night for dinner for two? Five days a week? And 8 hours a day exclusive use of a private swimming pool? Geez, lady, what do you do in there? Wouldn't your skin get all wrinkly? And really, what was your job with the Dodgers? For which you were paid 2 mill a year? Advance scout? Fungo bat coordinator? Matt Kemp's personal cougar?
It's all great stuff and it's FTR funny. Does that mean we can gloat? Or will our amusement over the misfortune of others lead to bad karma, possibly involving a pulled hammy for Panda, or worse, a Molina re-signing?
Hell, no, I say. I say we gloat. They're Dodgers. Anything bad that happens, they deserve.
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eh
I’d say its fair to laugh about it because its getting more and more ridiculous as it goes along, but gloating about it would be in bad taste. Laughing because this dumbass wants a gajillion dollars a day for vending machine snack money and another bajillion to support her teaspoon collection is a lot different than laughing at Dodger fans because their team owners are having marital problems. I think it’s fair to laugh at them as a ritzy dumbass former-couple, but not as Dodgers. Basically the details of their divorce are pretty funny, but the main fact that they divorced is not. And I dont think it’s fair to say the Dodgers deserved that.
The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!
by boonitez on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Any time you enjoy the suffering of others you are creating bad karma.
by positiveuphemism on Oct 29, 2009 12:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"suffering"?
Contrast this “Lifestyles Of The Rich And Famous” courtroom drama with the plight of the oppressed in third world nations or the agony of the parents of the returning dead from our gallant excursion in Afghanistan and you might rethink that assessment.
I think the McCourts will survive.
(I know, I know – “Long sentence is long.”)
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Oct 30, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if the parents of those dead soldiers are rich, f-em. Right?
Enough hookers and blow will cure any psychic wound, especially when enjoyed aboard one’s personal jet.
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by Bhaakon on Oct 30, 2009 3:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't get lighthearted about that hole of a foreign policy move.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Oct 30, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As military blunders go, Afghanistan is pretty low on the historical totem pole. Hell, even Vietnam was barely a blip by historical standards. You’ve really got to take the long view on these things, or you’ll just end up pulling your hair out, and, at the end of the day, comparing tragedies like baseball cards is a pointless procedure. An ugly divorce can have a much bigger emotional toll on an involved individual than some war that they have no personal connection too, tragedy is personal and relative.
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by Bhaakon on Oct 30, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Divorce =/= burying your kid. Divorce frequently has no psychological damage; often, both parties want out. You’d be hard pressed to find many people who want their kids to die.
And this is the same reason why their divorce is really completely insignificant in light of larger problems, and why we can enjoy it.
by quincy0191 on Oct 30, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I’m sure their child(ren) want out, and will therefore suffer no psychological damage.
I must have also forgotten that any emotional trauma not involving a death is negligible.
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by Bhaakon on Oct 30, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their children are grown, and probably won’t suffer any psychological damage. From what they’ve been saying neither of them will either. And of course there can be emotional trauma without death; torture certainly fits that bill.
But are you serious, satirical, or mentally retarded? You’re comparing divorce to death. Yes, both can be traumatic, but we’re talking two totally different scales of traumatic here. I think maybe your perceptions are a little wacked, because you think that we should compare the war in Afghanistan to all of history (yeah, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, and Napoleon totally lived in comparable times) and you think that divorce is the same as death (I mean, it can be, but only in very rare cases, and there’s no reason to assume anything like that since both parties seem pretty pissed at each other; it’s not like either one of them is crying their eyes out over this).
by quincy0191 on Oct 30, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lest we forget, the Giants largest shareholder (by far, if the rumors are true) died this season.
Even if her heirs are agreed on continuing or increasing their level of commitment to the team, it’s going to be tougher for the front office to persuade a group of equal owners to move in the same direction instead of just one. To many cook/chiefs/bosses/etc. is rarely a good thing, never mind the potential pitfalls of mixing business and family. I still haven’t heard much of a response from ownership (or much inquiry from the media, beyond one question from everyone’s favorite nigh time expatriate Chicagoan-cum-KNBR talking head which Neukom didn’t really answer) as to how the fluid ownership situation is going to effect the team’s plans.
I’m just saying, the Giants aren’t that far away from being in the same boat as the Dodger seem to be now, or the Padres were a year ago, with respect to the owners’ personal lives interfering with baseball operations.
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by Bhaakon on Oct 29, 2009 1:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
"Those that drink the Kool-Aid, please leave the room."
by Kitspool on Oct 29, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping that the McCourts come out of this happy and healthy, and that the Dodgers org is harmed in the process.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Oct 29, 2009 7:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As a Giants fan, and as moral human beings, what should be our attitude be towards the personal difficulties of other people?
See, this is where your analysis gets off track. These are the Dodgers we’re talking about. They’re not people. This story is hilarious, and hopefully it derails the Dodgers and crushes their fans. BEAT LA!
by Missing Barry on Oct 29, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the original definition of Karma as defined by most Eastern religions, it’s an idea that what goes around comes around because if you do good to those around you, they’ll do good for you and the world will be a better place. It’s been bastardized in the West as a sort of heavenly retribution for any evil act. So no, it’s not bad karma, unless you were planning on getting the McCourts to dogsit for you anytime soon. In which case, i’d make sure your dog gets his/her shots.
Also: hehe suck it Russell Martin and related executives!
"Snow woulda had it!!!"
Has decided to put all his "In this thing" energy to being in the Shark Tank and the Big House.
by beat_la_25 on Oct 29, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck the Dodgers. I want bad things to happen to them, and this qualifies. I suppose laughing about it is in poor taste, but I’m sure as hell enjoying it.
by quincy0191 on Oct 29, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve met their son, and I don’t think anyone deserves this kind of shit being played out in the press about his/her parents. So yeah, I’d say that this is in poor taste. Normally I’m a huge fan of schadenfreude, but I’d say this crosses a line.
by speckops on Oct 29, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair, it only crosses a line for you because you’ve met them. That humanizes them. As just photos/Dodgers fans, I can easily pretend they aren’t people… :)
by Missing Barry on Oct 29, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically, Hitler and Stalin were also people. You can’t truly hate something that lacks choice: a falling piano crushes a pedestrian because of gravity, a shark devours a surfer because it’s an unreasoning killing machine, a zombie stalks the living because of their insatiable hunger for delicious brains. Dodger fans are different, they understood their error and still willingly embraced the dark side, that’s the very definition of evil. To deny the essential humanity of a Dodger fan is to absolve him of responsibility for his sin.
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by Bhaakon on Oct 30, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happiness at the misfortune of others?
That IS German!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
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by natteringnabob on Oct 30, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slow zombies, or the other kind?
Schadendodgerfreude 2009! (CHECK)
Schadenyankeefreude 2009! (______)
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 1, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It is fair to gloat
Because when multimillionaires who laugh at the rest of us all the way to the bank, have their human failings, its ok, even healthy to laugh. When else can you laugh at them, not during a death, or a health tragedy. A little split-up among the elite is fair game, especially when they own the dodgers.
by bradleybear on Oct 29, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. The economy is in the tank, people are starving, soldiers are dying in needless wars, and we have to feel sorry for these rich pricks who don’t know what to do with all of their money? McCourt’s wife was screwing her DRIVER!! If he wasn’t so rich, his wife wouldn’t have a servant to commit adultery with. Last year they brought some 20 million dollar condo and still had money left over to sign Manny Ramirez. Boo fucking hoo.
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by rxmeister on Oct 30, 2009 5:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you this
Those of us out here in Anaheim are laughing our asses off. With several local newspapers recording the demise of the Criminal Empire that is Dodgertown, it’s enough to celebrate. Angel fans definitely don’t have the history that the Giants/Dodgers have, but we hate them just as hard.
This same article has been sent to me by 7 different people and I’ve reread it every time.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-plaschke30-2009oct30,0,4256482.column
The only magic number now is #34
by Teixeira Who? on Oct 30, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No offense, but that was a typical fucking Plasche article. He’s such a toolbag, and doesn’t know shit about baseball. I can’t wait for the little shits like him and Lupica to lose their jobs already.
But yeah, fuck the Dodgers!
by Missing Barry on Oct 31, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
None taken
I just have to savor that article. I hate the Dodgers so much I don’t care who wrote it. But yes, he is a tool bag.
The only magic number now is #34
by Teixeira Who? on Oct 31, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate some good ol’-fashioned Dodger hatred, but this article is one step above incomprehensible.
The McCourts are bad for investing in the farm system, employing a surly pizza server, and having Snoop as a fan?
Um…
what?
Schadendodgerfreude 2009! (CHECK)
Schadenyankeefreude 2009! (______)
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Nov 1, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's more the awful atmosphere
If you’ve ever been, it feels like you’re entering a minimum security prison. Honestly, how many stadiums have a 30 man brawl opening week? The McCourts would rather invest in the farm system rather than shell out the big money for an ace and a better chance to contend. As for the Snoop reference, I don’t follow it much myself.
The only magic number now is #34
by Teixeira Who? on Nov 1, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, cross out the second "rather"
The only magic number now is #34
by Teixeira Who? on Nov 1, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish they would STOP investing in the farm system; all their good players are from the farm system. I’d like for them to go after a big ace; that’s worked out so well before (Schmidt, Darren Dreifort, Kevin Brown).
by quincy0191 on Nov 1, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re rich Dodgers. Fuck them.
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by El Person on Oct 30, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This thread needs this link
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by achiappanza on Nov 3, 2009 11:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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