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Bill James 2010 Projections -- Part Two: Pitchers

Hitting? That's the bad news. That's opening up the pantry after not eating for a week and finding nothing put potted meat ("Now with partially defatted beef fatty tissue!").

Pitching? That's the good news. That's after you take the potted meat and put it on a delicious, flaky Ritz cracker and swallow it whole, trying to ignore the gag reflex that comes immediately after smelling the unholy processed chum, plugging your nose as the smooth puree slides down the back of your throat, but, oh god, some of is still stuck to the back of your throat, and you can't hold back as you retch violently before passing out. You wake up three days later with an IV sticking out of your arm. A nurse offers you a delicious, flaky Ritz cracker without potted meat on it. You take it. Hey, it's pretty good. It's all buttery. That's the pitching.

But it isn't likely to be as good next year. There was a little bit of luck running with some of the pitchers. Like, oh...

Star-divide

 

The clutchest pitcher in the world until he poops out the horseshoe. Affedt had a fantastic year getting the dealer to bust when he was standing on 11. That's probably not going to keep happening, but he's still a fine pitcher. He almost made up for Renteria. Almost.

The cluchest p...hey. Cain wil probably have another Cain year, complete with an ample supply of blown saves by his relievers, mathematically impossible run support, and diplomatic post-game quotes. Prince Fielder's projection has him at a .967 OPS, which gets me thinking, but I'll hold on to that kernel of thought until my week-long series on Cain-for-Fielder.

 

Both sides are right. Howry is still a worthwhile reliever with a good strikeout/walk ratio, but he was absolute murder on close games last season. Did he tense up in crucial situations, or did he just have an odd distribution of poor performances? Yes. But it isn't much of a gamble to bring him back if he wants to return.

 

That looks like a worthwhile addition to the bullpen, but I'm not sure the Giants need Randy Johnson on a roster with Jeremy Affeldt and Dan Runzler. If that reads like a familiar sentence, it's probably because I wrote that sentence over and over in 2001.

 

If it makes the Reds feel better, Drew Stubbs is projected to be something like Aaron Rowand but $12M cheaper next year. That's something.

 

Aaaaaand suddenly I'm a little suspicious of these projections. I mean, I love Joe Martinez. Everyone does. Your mom thinks he's nice. He'd probably hold a door open for you if you were carrying groceries. And he might be a good long man, or even a back-of-the-rotation starter, with the ability to put up league-average ERAs. Heck, that might start next year. But I wouldn't predict it just yet.

 

Another reliever who is likely to poop out a horseshoe. Heckuva year, and another astute bullpen signing by Sabean, but he isn't a 3.00 ERA kind of pitcher. Did you know he was second on the team in relief innings? Weird.

 

Another reliever who is likely to poop out a horseshoe. Heckuva year, and another astute bullpen signing by Sabean, but he isn't a 3.00 ERA kind of pitcher. Did you know he was sixth on the team in relief innings? Not so weird.

A starter with an ERA over 4.00? How brutish and gauche. Lost in the Penny madness of the last month was the fact that he wasn't striking out a whole bunch of hitters. Small sample sizes are in play a little, but he wasn't exactly Lincecum in Boston, either. At the right price, he'd be a fantastic option. I'm thinking he's going to get three years and much millions, though. That's probably not a good buy.

 

Uh, okay. I'm as big of a Romo fan as anyone, but this seems pretty danged optimistic (assuming the innings pitched is too low). Then I remember Romo's PECOTA comps before last season: Keith Foulke, John Wetteland, and Jeff Reardon. Just pulling this from my nether regions, but I'd wager that those are three of the 100 best relievers in the modern era. Romo doesn't allow a lot of homers, he throws strikes, and he gets a fair amount of swing throughs, so that seems to be a recipe for projection convection. Still, this seems pretty optimistic. The top four relievers for 2010 by ERA, according to these projections: Joe Nathan, Mariano Rivera, Jonathan Papelbon, and Sergio Romo.

 

By now it's probably clear that these projections are in the context of a low-run universe, so there are a lot of semi-shiny ERAs. Still, I'd take this season by Sanchez. It would be measurable progress.

 

Maybe we could get Russ Ortiz back. Valdez is like Felix Rodriguez without the command, which is to say, not much of a reliever until he develops good command.

 

Wilson's second half: 33 innings, 38 strikeouts, 12 walks, one very unfortunate home run allowed, and a 1.64 ERA. I'm usually not a big seasonal splits guy, but he really seemed like a different pitcher after the All-Star break. For the BABIP wonks, it's comforting to note that he wasn't very lucky at all (.301 in the second half). This is probably the most pessimistic projection of the bunch.

 

Maybe the reason we can't sign Jermaine Dye to an eight-year deal is because we have Zito. So let's enjoy Zito's league-average stylings, and forget about the contract. Besides, complaining about Zito's contract is so '08. It's all about Rowand these days.

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AWWWWWWWW YEAHHHHHH

WHERE MY ROMOSEXUALS AT?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here!

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Present.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got a huge Romorection that cant be tamed

Felicitations, malefactors! I am endeavoring to misappropriate the formulary for the preparation of affordable comestibles. Who will join me!?

by MetalFaceDoom on Oct 28, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m currently dressed up like all the Village People at once in honor of him!

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by Goofus on Oct 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could Romo become a starter again?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d prefer to keep him as a reliever. He would seem to have enough pitches to start though.

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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I’m reluctant to rock the boat with Romo too, since he’s been awesome so far and I don’t want that to change. But like you said, he’s got enough pitches to start, and in general starters are more valuable than relievers right?

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Oct 28, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. He has the arsenal to start. However, I would think that he wouldn’t be able to start for a whole season at this point. Maybe 3/4 of a season and a full season the next. Not a bad option to have, though.

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by Giant among Angels on Oct 28, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, he hasn’t been a full-time starter since short season ball.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not so worried about the transition as far as his stamina is concerned (assuming it’s done over the off-season). He’s still pretty young.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curve

Might not hitters begin to pick up Sergio’s curve as a starter?

by sharksrog on Oct 28, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven’t looked into it much but my impression is that Romo has more pitches than your typical reliever.

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Oct 28, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

6

Is what BP says at the beginning of this year. Things probably haven’t changed much.

Four-seamer, change, slider, curve, splitter, sinker

You wish you were named Frederick Deshaun...

by dregarx on Oct 28, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arm angles. From what I can tell, Romo gives a lot of different looks with each type of pitch. How would one see the pitch fx data for his release location? Link?

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by Giant among Angels on Oct 28, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sharksrog!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

welcome back!

yeah, I feel the same way about his “frisbee slider.” It might get pretty hittable the second time through the lineup.

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Oct 29, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are Jermaine Dye fans called Dyesexuals? just wondering.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dyeslexics?

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol yes

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by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dyeks?

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by ringleader3 on Oct 28, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

wrecked.

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by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what what

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Oct 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cain was 14-8, FWIW

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And I'm a dumbshit, FWIW

Projections. Duh. Anyone got a spare brain for me to transplant?

"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.

by hairball on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I got it from this lady named Abby something.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Cain will hit more than 21 home runs.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else see Romo as the closer by next year’s All-Star break?

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, if BJ Upton is on the team, Romo will be the closer by default

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson would have to blow up.

Literally blow up.

Like “KABOOM” blow up.

by deuce deuce on Oct 28, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His Guitar Hero blows up with him playing it?

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he plays guitar? thought that was Zito

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

May I recommend “The Life of Brian”?

Blehhh!

by Giant Homer on Oct 28, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, i kinda liked that show, filled with sarcasm, but yes, guitar hero, i did like that game for a while, but then it became old

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

also filled with douche-casm, but ya

Blehhh!

by Giant Homer on Oct 28, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think that was the point… so whatever, i’m not the one that really thinks of him as THAT big of a douche

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found this to be strangely hilarious.

Sometimes, there's a man...well, he's the man for his time and place.

by I'm_a_Man on Oct 29, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did too. i couldnt find the right place to post it though…

Please refer to username

by SabeanPlusBochyEqualsEpicFailure on Oct 29, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a couple of years, maybe. Wilson could get expensive once he hits arbitration.

For now, though, the job’s Wilson’s.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he hits arb this year…did I think wrong?

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by Goofus on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well then.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Oct 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

but should he?

Probably. Wilson should be traded.

He won’t be, cause Sabean WAY overvalues the position of closer.

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the past I’ve been against trading Wilson because he was Armando Benitez Contract Redux Insurance. Now that he’s up for arbitration, I dunno.

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Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only reason to trade him is cost

one should be able to find ample cheap replacements, and can deploy those millions elsewhere, where there are fewer chances for cheap replacements.

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Closer

Would anyone trade Brian Wilson in a package that brought a true cleanup hitter?

by sharksrog on Oct 28, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a heartbeat.

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why on Earth wouldn’t you?

Schadendodgerfreude 2009! (CHECK)
Schadenyankeefreude 2009! (______)

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 28, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday

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by Giant among Angels on Oct 28, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly. Maybe even Runzler.

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by Giant among Angels on Oct 28, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I have my potted meat on a Triscuit? I would prefer a Triscuit.

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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by bigboneded on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

LOL ZITO … wait

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s strange… we’re supposed to laugh, but for some reason, I don’t want to.

by deuce deuce on Oct 28, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, well, what you just said did make me laugh a little, yea zito!

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s too painful to laugh.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That projection for Zito is stellar. At least compared to my expectations.

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by marcello on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, wait

Do these projections not include ERA or anything of that ilk? The only categories I’m seeing are IP, H, HR, BB, SO, and W/L..

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Check the wide screen option. I think your images are getting cut off.

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s the first time I noticed the wide-screen option. I’m not the quickest apple in the haystack. Thanks.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must be talking about computers, but I can’t figure out why it’s in a haystack….

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, how do you set the wide screen option??

by joethejet on Oct 28, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Upper right-hand corner of the page, below the Search box.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, there it is. Thanks!

by joethejet on Oct 28, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind, ERA shows up if I open the images in a new window. For some reason it’s getting cut off for me in the thread.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only smart people see the ERA column.

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In fact, I see two ERA columns.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drunk already?

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by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering how crazy-optimistic Bill James projections usually are, that seems awfully pessimistic for Affeldt.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Slightly, but who knows what will happen. I’m projecting a flawless year of 2 strikeouts per outing and 0 runs given up

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Affeldt was awesome for the Giants in 2009 but he has some concerns. Mostly his BB/9 which was 4.48 walks per 9. I also wouldn’t expect him to be a 60%+ GB% pitcher next season either.

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, his LOB% of 86.4 is absurd.

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beano Runzler

With Runzler on the come, might Affeldt not be a trade possibility as part of a big bopper trade? Would anyone trade Matt Cain and Jeremy for Ryan Braun ( who sadly probably isn’t available)?

by sharksrog on Oct 28, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but for the last three years running, his ERA has been at least 40 points below the projection. That would also be his worst WHIP since 2006, and 22 points worse than it was this year.

I wouldn’t notice it so much if it weren’t for the general optimism of James projections, like I said.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m honestly not a big fan of these projections, but they make for good offseason fodder.

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn’t crazy-optimistic hitting projectings lead to awfully pessimistic pitching projections?

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, it thinks Zito will have his best ERA since 2006.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Despite having a worse walk rate and a very-slight worse K rate than he had this year.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

very-slightLY

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t understand. How could both ne optimistic? Are they done in a vaccum with no knowledge of the other? If the batters get better, more runs scored batted in, and the pitchers get better allowing less runs, WTF happens to those runs?

Do they get flushed down the toilet with my runs?

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure why y’all still think the hitting projections are still optimistic. I think there was a big adjustment to the projection system from last season.

by Grant on Oct 28, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t it think Edgar Renteria would have an OPS over .700?

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Giants hitting projections looked realistic. Last year’s Schierholtz projections almost made me wet myself.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It pretty much saw every single player in the lineup improving.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Oct 28, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It must factor who the hitting coach is into the equation.

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad he's gone

Now I can go back to hating everyone on the 1989 A’s.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was always fond of Rickey.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ricky says; Ricky appreciate you being is fond of Rickey

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…who, I recently learned, played his Little League ball about 3 blocks from where I currently live. WHO WANTS TO TOUCH ME?

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the stories you tell, I’ll pass

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve told some strange stories here in my day, but I’m not sure which ones would make you want to touch me!

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one where you dislike bananas.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Oct 28, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d think people would be more concerned about physical contact with me if I’d gone on about how much I love bananas.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you hate banana bread?

y/n

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I avoid it, but I accidentally had a bite a while ago and it was pretty awful.

I love pumpkin bread, though.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You make me sad. I made some awesome banana bread this past week with chocolate chips in it.

BUT I GUESS YOU WOULD HATE IT TOO

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering you hate everything, I’d expect you of all people to understand!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BUT HOW CAN YOU HATE BANANAS?

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The texture is slimy and gross and they taste sickly-sweet.

I’m more okay with plantains, since they aren’t nearly as sweet and cooking changes the texture a bit.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FINE, SHUT THE WORLD OUT!

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DAMMIT

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was biding my time.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PUMPKIN BREAD

i need to make some. still.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just found a recipe for peanut butter and pumpkin bread. It sounds awesome.

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a place two blocks from us that makes great pumpkin bread. And great other stuff, for that matter. mmmm.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trader Joe’s has some awesome pumpkin spice, I guess it’s cake, in the stores right now. yummy!!!

I recently came across this recipe for pumpkin bars that I’m going to try before the weekend, sometime, maybe.

by Merope on Oct 28, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bought their Pumpkin bread/muffin mix the other day, I’m gonna give it a shot.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A shot of what? Rum?

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds pretty good

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by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you hate banana-nut bread?

NO

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walrusman doesn't

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by groug on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Rickey prior to that series. I also believed that the world was fair & just up until then. Shit changes.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HES WHITE!

Must be Crawford uncle or something

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It pretty much saw every single player in the lineup improving.

Except for Velez, Molina, Uribe, Sanchez, Torres, and Sandoval, I agree completely. How dare the system factor in a 50 point slugging jump for a 26-year-old first baseman and a dead cat bounce for Winn and Renteria. How fraudulent.

by Grant on Oct 28, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dead Cat Bounce

sounds like the crunkest new dance all the hep cats are jivin’ to nowadays.

C’mon y’all/
Do tha Dead Cat Bounce!/
Do tha Dead Cat Bounce!/

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 28, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhh, I’m not sure what you’re so upset about, but:

Torres had 170 PA’s in 2008, so I don’t see how that counts as a player in the lineup. But, anyway, the projection do have him significantly improving from his career line. If you’re comparing to 2008, well, you shouldn’t. It’s 170 PA’s. I didn’t think of Uribe as a starter, but I guess he did end up with over 400 PA’s. He’s going to be bad again, and the projections did recognize that.

The rest are projected to repeat what they did last year, which I would consider very optimistic for Molina, and I guess decent for the rest. So it’s not as bad as I made it sound, but still.

In any case, until we see what they project the run environment to be, or what they think the average NL hitter will hit, or at least until we see projections for some other teams, I don’t think we can learn too much from this.

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by Cookyman on Oct 29, 2009 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhh, I’m not sure what you’re so upset about, but:

Calmer than you are.

(…wasn’t upset)

Molina’s slugging dropped by a bunch, so I wouldn’t put him as a repeat. My main point was that a lot of the players remained the same, which isn’t the same as everyone improving. The only real improvements were Schierholtz and Ishikawa, which are understandable because of their ages, and the dead cat bouncers.

by Grant on Oct 29, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The increase in OBP would make up for the SLG.

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:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Oct 30, 2009 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is my question

if the hitting and pitching projections are scaled to the same league run scoring environment (and why wouldn’t they be?) then the Giants stand to win about 90 games by this projection.

Which seesm… I dunno… rather fanciful?

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by zenbitz on Oct 28, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Affeldt did awfully well considering he was pitching with a horseshoe up his butt

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by Goofus on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez and Zito all with non-losing records? NO. The universe Giants offense will not allow it.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Oct 28, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

how much different were they compared to last year

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The universe Giants offense Brian Sabean will not allow it.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where’s Runzler’s love?

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 11:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Runzler doesn’t need Bill James’ Projections.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT

Currently raining in upper Manhattan according to a post on Raindogs.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s suppose to clear up before the game starts.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol selig

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by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Selig is dead to me!

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next year: World Series starts in January, hosted by the no-longer-domed Twins.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2010 World Series featuring the Twins and Cubs.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True fact

I once attended a game at Wrigley Field where it snowed during the pre-game warmups – in late April.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True Fact: I had snow flurries at my College Graduation…in MAY!

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Box score

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200504230.shtml

Total LaTroy Hawkins clusterfuck. It was my first time seeing Neifi after the Giants finally dumped him. I heckled him something fierce, and he pissed me off by going 3-3. :(

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just checked his career stats. He was with the Gianst for less than two years! It seemed like so much longer

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was amazing to see how much Cubs fans hated him. Maybe more than we hated Armando. The first baserunner he gave up, the whole ballpark was screaming for blood.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember his return to Wrigley after he had been traded to the Giants, and the fans were all over him. I felt kinda bad for him.

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the other hand, I was at Armando’s first game back in San Francisco after getting traded, and I joined in on the fans getting all over him, and I didn’ t feel bad for him.

My wife was shocked – she’d heard me ranting and raving about him for some time, but she assumed that was just me being over-the-top. Little did she know.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was different

Giants fans are cool!

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Little did she know.

This is the most ACCURATE statement in the history of the world!

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RAGE

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren’t the Twins outdoors now? for next year?

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the Yankee weren’t considerate enough to drag them back in after they took them behind the shed to…

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, expect delays in April thanks to snow, how great and smart, not sure how often it rains there during the summer, probably not as much as it does in the midwest or the east coast

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait

is MIN not the midwest?

And as to how much it rains…those 10,000 lakes don’t fill themselves.

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i woulda thought MN was North, yea i guess it is midwest

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is any part of America considered the North any more?
Regions I can think of:
South
Mid Atlantic
North East (Includes New England?)
Midwest
West
Pacific North West
West Coast (or California, could be included in west)

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alaska?

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by scout6 on Oct 28, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ALASKA! yea i’ll say the pacific northwest

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone name the guy who sang “North to Alsaka!”?

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

I have that song on a country compilation, and I still couldn’t remember the guy’s name.

Johnny Horton. Huh. He also sang “The Battle of New Orleans.” And I also did not know that “North to Alaska” was done for a John Wayne movie of the same name. The things you learn from wikipedia….

by taliesin on Oct 28, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Cash recorded a bunch of songs about Alaska. They’re on a recently (posthumously) released double-disc set called Personal File. It’s stuff he’d recorded and kept in the safe in his home office.

“Saginaw, Michigan” is a song about a guy who heads off to the Alaskan Gold Rush to prove himself worthy of a girl’s hand.

“When It’s Springtime In Alaska (It’s Forty Below)” is self-explanatory.

“The Cremation of Sam McGee” is a well-known poem he recorded as such; no music. It is epic win.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 28, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Saginaw, Michigan” is by Lefty Frizell. Or at least that’s the version that became popular.

But of course Johnny Cash rules in any case. I may have to check out that comp.

by taliesin on Oct 28, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the whole thing is his recordings of other peoples’ stuff; some by other songwriters, some by random folks that mailed their efforts to him.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 28, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Johnny Horton

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t peek, I swear.

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Oct 28, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

JOhnny Horton

Why couldn't McCovey have hit the ball just three feet higher??

by tobias on Oct 28, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True that, i honestly can’t think of anything called north

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Canada.

HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?

:-) :-) :-)

by Cookyman on Oct 28, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of southerners seem to consider everything not in the southeast to be “the north.”

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, so San Francisco is the north

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

In the south, I’m seen as a northerner. I tell them that my hometown is actually at about the same latitude as the capital of the Confederacy.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, that is actually pretty damn funny. Well here there are people that think and do believe that you can cross a bridge into LA

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that the bridge that Sarah Palin was talking about? The bridge to no where?

Rehashing a joke I made previously

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's second hand so I can't vouch for it

But I once heard of someone flying into LA to visit a family member and hopping into a cab and asking the driver to take him to a restaurant that was recommended to him in Santa Rosa.

It’s hard for people from the east coast, and especially the northeast, to appreciate how big California is.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, that really sucks, people just don’t get it, plus there are just a ton of people that believe that every city or town is in or around LA

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My second cousin in Boston thinks NH is sooooooooooooooooooo far away! Its about 45 minutes.

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The people who have really amusing ideas about distance are Brits. When I was in the UK, we stayed with a family friend in a tiny village only an hour or two outside of London, but they considered it very far away and most only went there once a year. The family friend commuted into London a couple of times a week and was considered very eccentric for it.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Says a lot about LA’s restaurants. (Sorry Lucques
and AOC—you know I love you.)

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by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

back east you can’t swing a cat without crossing 3 state’s borders.

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is the New Hampshire state sport iirc.

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by scout6 on Oct 28, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I’m pretty sure it’s slaloming through moose on a motorcycle without wearing a helmet.

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by cornball on Oct 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are extremely elitist down there.

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by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Southwest: Texas- or at least the Western part- and the Four Corners states.

Northeast definitely includes New England. There ain’t much more northern or easterly than New England. The question is whether it includes New York, or if NY is Mid-Atlantic, or if NYC (possibly including Long Island) goes one way and upstate goes the other.

I say file AK, HI, PR, Am. Samoa, etc under Other.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 28, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It rains quite a bit in Minnesota during the summer. Lots of T-storms, too.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I was in Minneapolis in June 1998, I was amazed by how hot and muggy it was.

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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, true. It is, you know, summer in the Midwest. It tends to be hot, muggy, rainy and buggy all at the same time.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND IT SUCKS WALKING TO CLASS

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s why they invented cars.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can’t park close to campus, it takes me bout 20 to 30 mins to walk to class

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I wasn’t addressing your situation specifically, just that if there’s any justification for the automobile and the internal combustion engine, it’s weather in the Midwest. Good lord the weather sucks here.

Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.

by cornball on Oct 28, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, the weather does suck in the midwest, and that contributes to the obesity that is seen throughout the south and the midwest

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

they fry everything and mayonaise is considered “light”

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you sure made some poor choices in your college selection.

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is code for “you suck”

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, Miami ohio is a good school

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how ’bout actually going there instead of hanging out here morning, noon, and night

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

verrrry funny, good thing is, i’m havin fun and getting good grades

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my bad! actually, MCC will look very good on your resume

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, joining a frat, having a minor, and a major

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don’t get me started on the frat

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Puck Fike

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 28, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHERE U AT!?!?!?! U DED DAWG

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whenever I look at a resume with frat listed, I more interested in who actually did the work

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/I’m

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You need a new recruiter.

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it took me a lot just to get into the fraternity, you have no idea

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so many elephant walks

so many bottles of everclear chugged

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 28, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So much for the afterglow.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But, daddy gave me a name

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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Oct 28, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what was the sticking point? Giants fan? mccoven?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your future’s so bright…

by Merope on Oct 28, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

especially since i have a major that suits me and is not in high demand

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

we old people will laugh at the song reference you missed

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmmmmmm, what is it?i can’t think of it

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, “My Future’s So Bright.” It’s by Timbuk3. Probably came out about the same year you were born. It was a big hit in the late 80s.

by taliesin on Oct 28, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…have to wear shades

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez thank-you. Obscure reference for the loss I guess.

I have to admit my favorite Timbuk3 song
 is “All I Want for Christmas”

by Merope on Oct 29, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure it's a good school

but with shitty weather.

there are plenty of good schools and good weather.

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to grad school in Chicago, so I have no room to talk about this one.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and there are plenty of good looking girls

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure

but you can’t see them. They are all bundled up in 6 layers of clothing all winter.

It’s so cold, that you could have a girlfriend for 3 months before you realize she’s fat.

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha! so true! except for when the spring and fall are here, those girls look so nice

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is whats nice about Isla Vista, there are no illusions!

Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?

by TexasRanger on Oct 28, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just illnesses

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well those ain’t exactly an illusion either!

Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?

by TexasRanger on Oct 28, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just a beach full of charred couches

Please hit better, Randy Winn.

by oldjacket on Oct 29, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, that’s a lot longer than I’ve ever had a girlfriend!

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True jcb9 facts

I’m 29 and haven’t yet gotten a license.

This will change soon, but anyway.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m guessing you’ve lived in a lot of metro areas?

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I went to high school in the suburbs, but my grandmother (who I lived with) wouldn’t let me get a license because having a teenager who drove in the house would’ve raised her insurance premiums. Then I was really poor for a couple of years. Then I lived in New York and Chicago and Oakland.

In between, I spent a year in Amherst, MA, and I started learning to drive there. Got a permit, only had to learn to parallel park before I could take the test. But then we moved to Chicago before that happened.

The tales of my moving seem to come up a lot lately!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re like grandpa jcb9. Tell us a story!

I figured, since owning a car in a lot of metro areas is pretty useless and frustrating.

by xanthan on Oct 28, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We did own a car for a while in Chicago, but we never used it AND it was breaking down. And it was a decade-old Geo Prizm with dents. We ended up selling it for a cool $100.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’ll probably end up loving having a car. I didn’t learn to drive until I was 22. Now it’s hard for me to go back to public transportation. I do it (I live in SF) but I always wish I had my car instead.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Oct 28, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Enh

My family didn’t have a car for a year when I was in the fifth grade – I loved it and decided then I didn’t want to have a car when I grew up. I’ve never really changed my idea about the damned things.

And FWIW, my wife used to drive EVERYWHERE – when we first met, she used to drive three blocks to get to work – but she’s been really happy not having one for the most part.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’ll just have to come back to SF. That way you’ll have a choice about having/not having a car in the future.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Oct 28, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s funny— a Geo in Chicago. talk about a short shelf life.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the Few, the Proud...

I was so happy when I ditched my car. I biked around Sactown (2009 Kings FTL FT82L!) for a year, and then moved to New York. I love public transit and hate driving.

Schadendodgerfreude 2009! (CHECK)
Schadenyankeefreude 2009! (______)

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 28, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But I was coming from Montana, at about the same latitude, where it was very pleasant. Of course, Montana is at a much higher elevation too. but at the time it was a bit of a rude awakening to step off the train.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sir, are talking about the formation of cumulonimbus clouds over a region that is covered by water, which causes clouds to form, and when you have that mix of cold air and warm air from the gulf you get thunderstorms

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, you ARE doing your homework…

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It nice in philly, (nice is a relative term!) lite drizzle/no rain at all hopefully this system is moving upwards to NYC

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who will emerge as Mr Novermber?!

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this some sort of calendar?

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Men of McCovey Chronicles

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s only one November.

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Merkin Valdez has been a big disappointment thus far.

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

/slider that doesn’t slide

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He just walked me.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha LOL you for not hitting a homer

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/gives up extra inning Grand Slams

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/arm falls off

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/breaks down weeping

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/screams in anger

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/straightball

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I LOVE THE RUSS ORTIZ TRADE

BY GETTING TWO YOUNG STUD PITCHERS FOR OVERRATED ORTIZ, SABEAN HAS ENSURED SUCCESS FOR YEARS TO COME!!!!

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s among the league leaders in Puns Above Replacement, though.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Oct 28, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds like a mischtake to me.

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Must had been a Velezian Slip

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baseball Player Brings Down Bay Bridge

  according to reports, deficient Aybar is the cause

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i thought it was a down Tom Cable

by PiKAgiant on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or a faulty Usain Bolt

"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.

by Goofus on Oct 28, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cracked Rod Barajas

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

 at all of the above. I’m at a hipster coffee shop in the mission and looking around, I think I’m the only one here has smiled in a long time.

by TwoBagger on Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why are you the one smiling? (and not the others…)

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/oops, now I see why you are

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Readin’s for rich people!

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by scout6 on Oct 28, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but if the other slackers are already in the city, why the sour puss’s (or some other plural form of puss)?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

pusses

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Muddy’s?

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pecking order of hipster-est coffee shops in the Mission goes:
Four-Barrel – uncomfortable seats, no wi-fi, surly ass servers, and coffee that goes through your bowels faster than a bar of soap
Ritual Coffee – awesome mugs, but always packed
Atlas Cafe – far too many aspiring screen writers, but killer ginger lemonade and russian tea-cakes
Philz House of Java – sadly the best cup in the city, but man, so many loafers

My preferred Mission java shops:
Maxwell’s House of Caffeine – awfully amazing music, allows dogs, and good cheap beer
Cafe Trieste – in my former end of the Mission / SOMA , but best food and good live music
Cafe Petra – quiet as a library, best coffee shop to actually get shit done if you can stand the dentist music
Church Street Cafe – similarly good working environment, smells a bit less than Muddy

My favorite coffee shops in the city?
On the Corner – darn good coffee, actually genuinely nice people, clean leather chairs, and fucking games night on Wednesday with cheap beers. Also, they let in dogs.

Momi Toby’s – their penchant for playing Marquee Moon aside, best thing to a nonchalant French Brasserie I’ve encountered, killer overpriced food and good cheap beer on tap.

Runners up:
Farley’s, Cafe Soleil

by grape on Oct 28, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atlas!

Because as much as I despise them as a whole there are some stunning hipster chicks, a high percentage of which frequent Atlas.

by TwoBagger on Oct 29, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/doesn’t get Lincecum/Reds joke.

Is it just because Stubbs was drafted before Timmy and was underwhelming? The same is true of a few others in that draft too. Hochevar, Reynolds…

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

pretty sure that’s it

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants

by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa

Just clicked the link in your sig to the 97 giants. How the hell did JT snow ever OPS .898 (99 points above Kent).

I’ve always had it in my mind the Kent was the superior hitter, but damn.

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…898-789= 109!

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 points:

1) 109!

2) this is why I’m a political science major

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2) this is why I’m a political science major

Follow in the foot steps of the wise one, GHW.

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean GWB

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was a History major, actually.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Referring to the not being able to do math thing.

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he was a technologist

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

/slowly glides out of the room

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Oct 28, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fluke year.

And Kent was just starting to get good at that point.

"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always find it hard to believe that Snow hit 15+ homers for six years.

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and three of those season he played in the Stick!

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snow was a decent hitter in his prime

That and a slick glove = Giants’ favorite. I will never forget him earning his “Vanilla Cream” versus Blownitez…

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

slick glove?

vanilla cream? blownitez?…

whoa

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Oct 28, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I witnessed Snow hitting a Grand Slam at the stick back in 97.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll hold on to that kernel of thought until my week-long series on Cain-for-Fielder.

If you can get 3:2 on a headline of "Giants Pitcher Assaults General Manager" at some point this year, take it.

by esseffgeez on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OT: How about Eric Byrnes?

I don’t know how willing the Dbacks would be to deal him in-division, but it’s not looking likely he’ll play the last year of his contract in AZ.

Wasn’t too long ago he was an .800 OPSer with 20 homers.

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 28, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

a world of no

A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.

by wjackalope on Oct 28, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rest In Peace, Byrnes's career

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Oct 28, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It might be the end of his baseball career, but it’s only the beginning of his radio career!

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol not enough of a buffy nerd

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Oct 28, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

… apparently not… (?)

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I shouldn’t have expected you to get that. It’s from the musical. Some of the banter pre-Spike’s song, which was called Rest In Peace, had the line “A world of no.”

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Oct 28, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, well you do know that episode from front to back.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he could replace Bip

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

Potential offensive upgrade in LF is what I was thinking.

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 28, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. It would greatly offend me if he were in LF for the Giants.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by scout6 on Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap, dude, he’s had an OBP under .275 for two straight years now. He hasn’t played more than 85 games in that same period. He’s been hurt. He’s been sucky. And he’s only getting older.

I can almost guarantee that he would not be an offensive upgrade anywhere, unless he came in to play catcher.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No thanks

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH DEAR SWEET GOD IN HEAVEN NO.

"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket

by scout6 on Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whazzup with yo ’puter? I must know.

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing yet

i’m dragging my heels

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Oct 28, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve heard that clicking them works

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh dear me, I completely misinterpreted the word ’puter there.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I recant

mea culpa

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 28, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

save yourself!

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

wait one more year, and then Sabes will sign him to a 3 yr/8 per contract. Discount!

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve got all kinds of fear that the giants will try to get him

by DrStankus on Oct 28, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To replace Ralph?

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But yoo gaiz… Favre Byrnes plays for the love of the game! Favre Byrnes is like a kid out there! Favre Byrnes is just out there havin’ FUN!

Schadendodgerfreude 2009! (CHECK)
Schadenyankeefreude 2009! (______)

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 28, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to add to the chorus. NO.

The really sad thing is that acquiring Byrnes would almost certainly be a big hit with the talk-radio branch of Giants fandom.

by taliesin on Oct 28, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard-nosed, gritty gamer who plays the game right!

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by Natto on Oct 28, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Byrnes?

I would like a guy who mashes lefties and can play a decent outfield but then again, Sabean could just sign Reed Johnson or someone like that for that role.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Oct 28, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lefty masher for platoon purposes with Fred

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Oct 28, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The deal would include a fungo, bag of balls, and autographed BLB card

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Oct 28, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, on the bright side, all that food I just threw up won’t be making me fat.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For Those Wondering This Adds Up To A Team ERA Of 3.51 Which Beats The 3.55 Of 2009

The 5 projected starting pitchers (Cain, Lincecum, Penny, Sanchez, and Zito) combine for 402 earned runs in 1015 innings for a rotation team ERA of 3.56 which beats the 3.58 of 2009. The 9 projected releif pitchers (Affeldt, Howry, Johnson, Martinez, Medders, Miller, Romo, Valdez, and Wilson) combined for 197 earned runs in 521 innings for a bullpen team ERA of 3.40 which also beats the 3.49 of 2009.

Who says the Giants can’t match 2009’s run prevention in 2010? Not Bill James that is for sure.

by giantsrainman on Oct 28, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bill James Kool Aid

coupled with the 4.43 runs scored per game projected….

I can haz it?

FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 28, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…equals 162-0!!!

We’re so there. Eugenio for MVP!

You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean

by bgunn on Oct 28, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do I suck at adding or does this project 92 wins?

The very bad man traded my son...So now I'd like you all to meet my new son, Ryan "Aaron" Garko...Dammit it's just not the same!

by boonitez on Oct 28, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

But I wouldn’t put too much stock in it. It also projects 79 losses. (By my count.)

by taliesin on Oct 28, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe that it projects high for playing time by design.

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.

by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan "McCovey" Howard

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

new thred

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

why don’t my links post?

well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan

Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!

by greatgiantfan on Oct 28, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don’t post them in the subject box

We're all basically Pedro Feliz.

by SF Pete on Oct 28, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs


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