I still can't believe it.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 11:40 AM PDT
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We traded Alderson and Barnes and we got 25 games of Sanchez and the lesser half of the Travis Ishikawa platoon.
The Red Sox packaged Barnes and Alderson clones (the clones are always slightly inferior to the original DNA subjects), paired them with a younger version of Jonathan Sanchez and got VMart.
AND Sabean got a new deal.
I guess if you go by the law of regression we should be due for Adrian Gonzalez for Conor Gillaspie, Merkin Valdez and Garko.
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Seriously man no could have seen F-chez getting hurt and missing that much time,
And the fact that Garko didn’t play was Bochys fault.
Freddy has averaged about 130 games a season in his career so its not like he had a long history of injuries. I know he was hurt before the trade, but our Dr.s cleared him as ok, maybe they should be fired!
Secondly the Drs. cleared his knee, he missed most of his time due to a shoulder. That’s called bad luck.
I hate our GM and by no means am sticking up for him, but its not like he traded Lincey for Harden, its over and done with move on!
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
130 games a season in his career isn’t very many… that means he misses 32 games a year.
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by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, if this site moved on from everything that bothered us about the Giants front office it would be really quiet in here.
Now, about that Mark Portugal contract…
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Oct 26, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did someone say Syndey Ponson?
or was that Damien Moss I heard?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a Damien Moss foul ball. Chump lined a shot into my glove that tore up the 15-yr old webbing.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 26, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait, they traded people? OH YEA!!!! i almost forgot
it is what it is, done with it
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, about that Mark Portugal contract…
HHHHHHHHHSSSSSSSSSS!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 26, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think Sabean didn't influence the Doc's decission?
He played immediately folowing the trade then sat out like 5 games with a bad knee, then he had the mysterious “shoulder” injury.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, he strongarmed the doctors to clear Sanchez? Why, so the trade would look worse?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, because he felt pressure to make a move
and he truly believed 40 games of Sanchez could make a difference.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 27, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if Sabean “influenced” the doctor’s decision, he basically said, “Sure he’s an injury risk and very likely could miss a good bit of playing time this season, thus making this trade look ridiculously stupid – and ME stupid by extension… But dammit, doc, you’d BETTER give him the okay to play, regardless of whether or not you think his body will hold up, or else!”
Yeah, I don’t see that happening.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see it going something like this
Doc: Well Mr. Sabean we took an MRI and did some range of motion excercises and it looks like he could take another 10-15 days to heal. We might be able to accelerate that with intense PT but there’s no telling for sure.We would typically recommend a player be moved to the 15-day DL if this were one of our players.
Sabean: 10-15 days? Could we be optimistic and hope for 8-9?
Doc: Like I said, Its always possible that response to treatments will surpass expectations.
Sabean: Well, whatever you write in that report make sure he’s healthy enough to be acquired. I don’t care if he needs to miss a handful of games we need his bat to stay in this thing.
Doc: Well that isn’t what we would recommend.
Sabean: Well you didn’t recommend a 15 day DL for Rich Aurilia either. If I were you I’d recommend the acquisition. Man, Conte never gave me this kind of crap.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 27, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So his shoulder “wasn’t” hurt?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 27, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From AP story on ESPN regarding Sanchez's injuries.
Dated 9/26
“Sanchez said he originally hurt the knee in Arizona just before the Pirates arrived in the Bay Area in late July and knew he likely would need surgery.”
From Baggs on 9/21:
UPDATE: The Giants just rang to the press box to report that Sanchez left with a "twisted" left knee. We’ll know more postgame.
And here’s the best I could find on when and how the shoulder was injured from USA Today:
“The shoulder has been bothering him since he felt it on a swing doing some early work in the cage, but played through it for two weeks. During a game at New York during the Giants’ recent road trip, it became too painful to swing.”
So he played with it for two weeks and it just got that much worse after two weeks? All this time playing with a knee that he was told in Pittsburgh would need surgery? Sounds mysterious to me.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 27, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry that shoulder injury thing was dated 8/25
He played every AB of the Mets series that ended on 8/17. That article said he played through it for two weeks, that means he first felt pain on or around 8/3. He was acquired on 7/30 with a knee that he knew needed surgery. Somehow he passed the physical, and 4 days later gets a mysterious shoulder injury, plays through it for two weeks then proceeds to miss 30 of the next 42 games, including the last 12 of the season which were admitted by the Giants to be a result of a re-injury of his knee.
The shoulder thing was total BS and Sabean covering himself because he panicked and traded for an injured player because it was the best he could do, because he’s a retard.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 27, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just kind of surprising
that anyone would buy the line about his shoulder when Sanchez knew he needed surgery before the trade and had it performed as soon as the season was over. He missed 32 games and you’re blaming it on a shoulder? He had knee surgery on 9/30!?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 27, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So when I google "Freddy Sanchez Shoulder" all I get is stuff about his previous shoulder injuries
Only one article I found mentioned his mysterious 2009 shoulder tweek.
Here is an AP article from March 2008.
Recurring shoulder pain worries Pirates’ Freddy Sanchez
Posted 3/21/2008 6:18 PM | Comment | Recommend E-mail | Save | Print | Subscribe to stories like this
By Alan Robinson, AP Sports Writer
BRADENTON, Fla. — Second baseman Freddy Sanchez felt pain Friday in his surgically repaired right shoulder, a major setback that may force him to begin a second consecutive season on the Pittsburgh Pirates’ disabled list.
Sanchez didn’t make any throws while playing six innings of a 5-1 exhibition loss to Cincinnati, only the second time he has appeared defensively this spring. The pain occurred when he threw between innings and during pregame warmups.
“I’m very concerned now. I was hoping after the first day (in the field Wednesday) that this day would be easier, and I’d be able to work through it a little better. But it kind of seemed like it was worse,” Sanchez said. “It’s got me concerned.”
Sanchez received treatment after playing, and the Pirates’ medical staff will re-evaluate his condition on Saturday – when he is scheduled to start against Tampa Bay. Sanchez doubts if he will play.
“I don’t feel like I could,” Sanchez said. “I’m giving it all I can out there and trying to play through it, but it doesn’t feel right. It felt a little different today, the more I threw I got worse. … It’s not good.”
Sanchez wasn’t pulled from the game, he said, “Because I wanted to play through it and see what would happen if a real ground ball got hit to me.”
Sanchez, the 2006 NL batting champion and one of the league’s most consistent hitters the last two seasons, had what was described as minor shoulder surgery during the final week of last season. The 15-minute procedure was designed to repair a joint problem that caused Sanchez to receive periodic shots of cortisone last season.
At the time, the Pirates said Sanchez could resume normal work outs in less than two months. But the two-time All-Star infielder’s shoulder hasn’t felt right since camp opened last month, though there was no suggestion until now he wouldn’t be ready for the March 31 opener in Atlanta.
Sanchez feels fine at the plate – he was 1-for-3 Friday and is hitting .364, mostly as a designated hitter. The shoulder pain occurs mostly when he throws the ball.
“It’s just frustrating,” said Sanchez, who began last season on the disabled list with a knee injury but bounced back to hit .304 and drive in 81 runs in 147 games. “Even if it was a little better than it was a couple of days ago, it would be a different story, but …”
I guess it could have been a shoulder injury though, he certainly has a history.
Man there are a lot of people who want to sign this reanimated corpse for 3 years? What have you learned from Dave Roberts?
Hope you guys like you 50 games of Manny Burris at 2B in 09.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 27, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
F-chez?
Really?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
Only have one arm, due to surgery, and didnt want to type the whole name.
I know I’m lazy
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. F works
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 26, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis!!
/ ducks
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 26, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember him getting solid reviews
for his CF defense.
I guess that is in the Lost and Found in Fresno along with Fopperts velocity, Damon Minor’s power stroke, and Todd Linden’s…everything.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has the physical tools to be a good CF… just, well, not so much the instincts.
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by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The classic hardware vs. software dilemma.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it Rick Monday . . .
. . . who once described some player as a ten-million dollar airport with a forty-dollar control tower?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I don’t remember that one!
/ files aways for future reuse.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 27, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also heard he had the physical tools
to play football. He must have really sucked at football.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, i think he does have the tools, just has to put bat on ball
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bat on ball is going to help his D?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, but i remember a discussion here about how his D was not much worse than Velez, it was just at the time the error came
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The next Terry Whitfield! But with more K’s, more range and more laughs at teh end of that range!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 26, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously man no could have seen F-chez getting hurt and missing that much tim
Considering he was already banged up at the time the trade was made, and Keith Law (I think) had previously speculated that he might be breaking down, I’m going to have to disagree.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We miss a lot more Tim now too. :(
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if course, Keith Law thought that Alderson was a fair price for Sanchez, unlike most of us.
by tyrannoman on Oct 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason I brought this back up
is that it dramatically effects the offseason and the ability to acquire a player that would make a difference (not Garko or Sanchez).
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok
I agree with that but Alderson was not even a top 50 prospect and Barnes was in AAA, and not big name anywhere but here.
If this team trades Rowand for Bradley you’ll be more upset and angry.
Not right away but by midseason. Trust me!
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not a good argument – Alderson and Barnes were good trading chips and the Giants didn’t get enough value out of them (and they are now without many good chips that they can afford to trade.)
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says who
Us, the front office?
Maybe the rest of the league dosent hold ourprospects in high regard.
How do you know we could have gotten more?
Just because you belive it dosent make it true.
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outperforming older players.
Probably a pretty reliable variable when gauging prospect value. Just a hunch.
Barnes was younger than most SP in the Cal League and a top 7-8 pitcher in that league.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that was the best the Giants could have gotten for those two, they should have just held on to them. Perhaps you then keep those guys as depth later and trade Bumgarner or Sanchez instead – and you feel more comfortable doing so because you still have pitching prospects who seem relatively close to the majors in your system and aren’t just replacement level fifth starter types (Pucetas, Martinez.)
The fact is that the Giants had pitching depth, they traded a very good chunk of it and in return they didn’t get anyone who actually solves any of their problems as a team or is a long-term option. That’s a problem. We might be able to rebuild it – there are some good arms in the lower levels of the system, but they might not have value for awhile and the Giants still have a lot of holes on the major league team and very few resources/options to fill them.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seconded.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 26, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I Thirded it?
If I started the thread?
Razor thin margin for error without those guys. Anyone here trust Sabean with razors?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well played.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 26, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alderson was not in AAA
He was a 21 year old in A+, and one of the best pitchers (statistically) in the CAL League. What are you talking about?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry that was a typo I knew that.
If he goes on to be great you can get mad about it but miost guys in A+ never make it the bigs.
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So there is a 90% (?) chance that all it took to get VMart was
a younger version of J. Sanchez?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fwiw
I still wouldn’t have been that enthusiastic about trading Barnes, Alderson and possibly Sanchez for Martinez, because of his contract status and the fact that he would be confined to 1B only as a Giant (at least for 2009).
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's wrong with VMart's contract? Too short?
He’s certainly underpaid from a cost/production angle.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It ends after 2010 I think...
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ends after 2010.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere WalrusMan’s ears perked up, and he doesn’t know why.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
VMart
Ugh
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 26, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm..
You do realize that most if not all major league players played in A+ at some point before they reached the majors, right?
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by boonitez on Oct 26, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that but Alderson was not even a top 50 prospect and Barnes was in AAA, and not big name anywhere but here.
Um, I’m not sure where you get your information, but I’ll counter with this. They rank 25 prospects, then list (if I counted right) 25 more…first on that list? Tim Alderson (it’s alphabetical). I think that makes him a Top 50 prospect? Barnes was also an organizational Top 10, and we were widely considered one of the better farm systems in baseball before the season…
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So there is a 90% (?) chance that all it took to get VMart was
a younger version of J. Sanchez?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Barnes was in high-A, not AAA.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barnes excelling A+ and Alderson floundering in AA
at the time of the trade. Both young for their levels with good resume’s.
We’re all straight now?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you probably should have put that as a point of discussion in the actual post. You can’t assume that we know what you’re getting at.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you got a problem with an organic thread.
Things evolve.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Organic thread? You wanted to say something to elicit discussion about a problem the Giants will have, but then you failed to bring up anything relevant to that point. That’s not an issue of the thread being organic. That’s an issue of you not thinking about the words that you are posting.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone played Borderlands yet? It looks freaking awesome.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 26, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s sitting in my Steam account, waiting to be downloaded.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you’re not getting for the xbox then?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 26, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most likely not.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friend actually bought it for me on Steam because there was a four-pack deal. I could have gone either way.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS!
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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by cheno on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet. I really wish there was a demo so I could play test it for performance.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No mouse = sauce of fail.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
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by Zetsuboushita on Oct 27, 2009 4:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know. I have one.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OHHHH, ok then, nevermind, good deal
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/starts up online game
/gets called fag
/hates
/mutes
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what Parties are for.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I just like PC dedicated servers. And I have a lot more “PC friends” to play with.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
if I had friends to have parties with, why would I need video games.
Duh.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
XBL = my yearly quota of 14-year-olds
I think there is a WalrusMan joke in here somewhere. I’ll let you find it.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
honkytonkbbbw does online gaming!?
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he does actually.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gaming blows.
Typing messages on a baseball board all day is 100X cooler.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s possible to do both!
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by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure I’ll be getting it for PC. Need to see if it will run worth a crap first.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would play best on the PC. I’m not sure mine could run it.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I meant. Need to see if my rig can run it for crap.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap!
I think mine could if I upgraded my video card but that costs money.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should trade Tim Alderson for a new video card.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING BAY CITY BALL BRASS!?
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought so. Then I realized I’m going to hear this damn “ting-ting-ting” sound whenever I walk.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THE CARD IS JUST GOING TO BREAK IN A COUPLE WEEKS!
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
It is freaking awesome. Soooooo awesome.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which platform are you on? I need co-op buddies.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
360
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL XANTHAN HAS NO FRIENDS
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
Adopted Giant: the probably soon to be ditched but still awesome Fred Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, which character are you? I went generic gun guy, so I’m using Roland. I’d like to try sniper dude or Brick. I’m not sure the magic character appeals to me.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mordecai
The sniper was my first. I have him at level 26 and I have Brick at level 47 (powerleveled by someone else, didn’t get there myself). The sniper is fun, obviously a different style of play, and his special is awesome when you power it up (need to get to level 21-25 to really use it). Brick is just a tank.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 26, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord. I’m only a level 14, I think.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brick took like 2-3 hours of sitting in a game with a level 50 storming through the final area on his 3rd play through. The hard part was just staying alive.
I’ve put about 15 hours into my sniper. Getting to New Haven is key, because you can farm two item boxes there to really upgrade your equipment.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 26, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea there were video games set at Yale!
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like POISON Ivy League
AMIRITE?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That reminds me
Back in college, we played a ton of Counterstrike. One of the kids at my school decided to make a map that was set up exactly like one of the on campus dorms. We all thought it was awesome, because he did a pretty good job with it. Then, while playing, we realized we were simulating a school shooting (or at least that’s how it would be seen by over reactionary idiots [this is post Columbine, FWIW]). That ended quickly.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 26, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that probably wouldn’t have turned out well.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, if your school found that…my oh my… you wouldn’t have a degree right now
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recall reading an article about something like that happening. A kid modeled a map after his high school. Then some parents assumed he was using it to plan a school shooting and things got dumb.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MURDER SIMULATOR
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
The game is really fun with friends.
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by marcello on Oct 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s be clear on how the concept of “regression” works. Because something unusual happened in the past (let’s say some hitter had a clutch performance over some period), it doesn’t mean he’s due for the opposite to happen. Rather, in the future he should perform at his true talent level, and the bigger the sample of “true talent level” performance, the closer the average of the clutch past and normal future get to his true talent level. We can get into limits and such, but I think this brief explanation should be enough.
What that means for this example? We are not due an Adrian Gonzalez or anything like that – we should expect to get our “true talent level”, whatever the equivalent of that is in this example (I’m not really sure, it’s kind of a stretch of a metaphor), in the future.
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Duly noted.
I’m currently taking my first college math class since 1993.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry, you’re not the first to make that mistake, nor will you be the last. I just try to educate so we’re all on the same page…
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That 93 class was also my only college math class.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t you only need 1 math class in college? i’ve taken 2 but only need 1
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t need any math classes in college. Which was nice.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did have a few of those, yes.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine Arts.
Big time hippies. And Comm’nists.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had some communists, too.
"Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?" - sfgiants.com commenter or online porn ad? You be the judge!
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the first GIS result for 'eugene lang college students'
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s straight, i kinda think needing math is good… i’m a arts and sciences major but it helped, it was the easiest math i’ve ever taken
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t need any of that fu fu foreign language crap!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CRAP! lucky! gotta take 3 years of it, i need one more and i’ll take that next semester
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I get into PhD programs, I’m either going to have to learn one language really well or two moderately well. Which will be a challenge but I’m looking forward to it. I’ve always regretted never properly learning a language.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spanish is easy, and usefull.
Also very easy to learn Eye Talian or Portuguese if you know Español.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. But I may go in another direction – Mandarin Chinese, which is really hard in a lot of ways, but which I have some prior knowledge of.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually wish I took it, I was better at sciences and didn’t want to increase the difficulty of my semester
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I speak 2 whole languages
and parts of 4 more languages. Small parts some of them.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/jealous
Its the worse part of American education. We really need to diversify our linguistic skills in this country
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were a ton of languages offered at my high school when I was going there, but I think they cut a lot of them. Every other school only had three or four.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off the top of my head, we had
German (which is what I took)
Russian
Korean
Japanese
Chinese (Mandarin)
French
Italian
Spanish
Latin
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they had Tagalog for awhile. Not when I was there, but recently relative to then.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Oct 27, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More about requiring them and actually teaching and then re-enforcing them.
We had three or four at my HS I took spanish and I can say me llamo
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first high school I went to only had two – French and Spanish.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me guess. You moved in HS?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He blew up his first one.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were probably expecting me to. I was not on good terms with them.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some one threatened my Jr High with a bomb. They then moved us to the PE area and kept us there. 100 feet from the school.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did! Middle of tenth grade. I attended two high schools and also home schooled for a bit.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to two different high schools and that’s all we had.
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Oct 26, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My second high school also had Latin.
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By “every other school”, I mean schools in SF.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to a public high school.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My high school had:
Spanish
French
German (I think)
Swahili
Latin
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Oct 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, no Klingon?
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by jcb9 on Oct 26, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had Spanish and German. Only had enough German students to fill 2 or 3 classes.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 26, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swahili?
Intriguing
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol berkeley
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by groug on Oct 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just go live in another country for a year.
If you have 2 years of HS spanish, brush up a bit, spend a year in latin america you’ll come back fluent.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to Argentina, France and Spain
This spring/summer.
All for credit in my MBA.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH THATS COOL
should be alot of fun
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to study abroad for my degree. I’m eyeing an English teaching paid internship in Latin America.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 26, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
If you have 2 years of HS spanish, brush up a bit, spend a year in latin america you’ll come back fluent.
Let’s see…
- Two years of HS Spanish…check.
- Spend a year in Latin America…is 30 years in Phoenix/ 15 in construction a suitable equivalent? Many of my peers would vociferously say yes.
Fluency? Nah.
(No one’s mentioned “open mind” yet…)
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by victor frankenstein on Oct 26, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't work
Your vocab is limited to slang, construction terms (many of which are likely anglicized) vulgarities. Then you go home and speak english. emersion is the works because you have to figure out a way to say everything. You have to ask lots of questions and never give in to speaking english.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spoke Spanish for five years…as a small child. I need to learn it and fast before I go abroad. The funny thing is, I only have a year’s worth of college Japanese study, and learning Spanish in two years would still get me further ahead.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 26, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you'll pick up small parts of other languages like
Portuguese, and french or indiginous languages.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And as a fringe benefit,
the further you get from accessibility to Giants baseball the more sane you will be this time next year.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since it is probably a language for reading (rather than verbal communication), I’d pick the language with the most interesting books you’ve always wanted to read (again).
Myself, I’m interested in learning Spanish or Portuguese to get into Latin American literature.
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by kennv on Oct 26, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed out. Learning languages is fun.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only needed one because I didn't get past Geometry in HS.
Most people didn’t need them for a BA undergrad.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh well there ya go, that makes sense then
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got a degree in economics and could have gone through all of college only taking one math class…but then again that would have been crap liberal arts economics. I didn’t take any real math classes (tested out), but I did end up choosing to take a number of statistics/econometrics classes…
by Missing Barry on Oct 26, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am taking stats right now.
I should be studying for my final.
I am thinking about doing an independent study on the statistical analysis applied to advertising and marketing through new media.
Anyone know of previous studies on the matter?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
California State University made me take a math class before I could transfer.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 26, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
He avereaged 138 games and thats with playing 111 this year.
Not great but doable.
Im just saying lets not be Red Sox fans and continue to live in the past.
Move on.
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What was done in the past has compromised our options moving forward.
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by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT BELLYACHIN’ AINT BRINGIN EM BACK!!1
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Oct 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's cathartic.
And people seem to respond anyway.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And of largest amount of playing time he has logged in the last 2 seasons was the same year he posted a 292 wOBA. So yes let us not look at that past.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 26, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do agree
its something to do on a boring Monday
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what else is fun to do on a boring day? HOMEWORK! WOOHOO
by PiKAgiant on Oct 26, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
um.......i dont go to school
I have a job that I don’t go to cause I had surgery so I need somthing else.
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 11:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Believe it.
you know it to be true.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 26, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought this was gonna be a thread about you making the World Series.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
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The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
by cheno on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
3 parts October + 1 or more parts of November.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garko
If Garko does what Bill James projects (.282/.357/.453), I’ll have no problem with what we gave up for him.
He’s be only the second 800+ OPS player on the team and I’ll be really pizzed if Bochy doesn’t give him a chance.
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by Goofus on Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t like that trade. No sir.
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I hate BJ super optimistic crazy feel good projections!
by xanthan on Oct 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/BJ joke
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ ….
feel good…
projections!!
/ chortles
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 26, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
xanthan hates
A lot
/too lazy to update chart
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Oct 26, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What pisses me off about the Garko trade
is that we overpaid, but we also (probably) could’ve gotten Pavano as a thrown in, which would’ve been substantially better than the Martinez/Sadowski experiment.
Grab Some Pine Meat!
by Gobroks on Oct 26, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he'll do that in only 118 AB.
Bochy got a new deal, remember.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prepapre to be really pizzed.
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Oct 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
prepapre and prepare
"It's too late now."
by ResDog on Oct 26, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I missing something or are you saying that,
Barmes, Alderson and Dirty for V-Mart (I HATE THOSE NICKNAMES) would be better than Alderson for Freddy and Barmes for Garko?
I wasn’t a big fan of those trades but DAMN!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Martinez + (Penny - JSanchez) > Garko + FSanchez
How’s that for math?
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s worth noting yet again that, yes, Martinez went on a tear after moving to the Sox (and Fenway) but he wasn’t hitting much better than Garko at the time of the trade.
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by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Historical performance is also worth noting.
And Martinez crushes Garko in that department.
by Cody_ransom on Oct 26, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly, but while his performance 3 years ago is relevant, it’s not really that relevant.
I obviously think Martinez >>> Garko but not to the extent that he’s worth giving up Alderson, Barnes AND Sanchez.
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by jponry on Oct 26, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention Martinez’s value lies in him being a catcher rather than a 1B.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Garko IS just as good!
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by groug on Oct 26, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defen…what wrong guy…
sorry
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 26, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought CodyR was talking about Hey Joey not VMart in this equation. Your reading makes more sense.
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by kennv on Oct 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess if you go by the law of regression we should be due for Adrian Gonzalez for Conor Gillaspie, Merkin Valdez and Garko.
This will happen when Boras comps us for Zito. (Like, NEVER).
by KrazyKrabMeat on Oct 26, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
just because sabean could not foresee Garko's meltdown and Sanchez's injury!!!!
He gave up way to much future for a very tenuous and potentially expensive present. I thought it was a bad deal then and I think it is a bad deal now. Even if our former prospects never make it MLB, but indeed they will and somehow come back to haunt the giants in any and every way possible.
by bradleybear on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what meltdown
do you recall how many ABs he had?
by sfoakbay on Oct 26, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry
But I would much rather have Masterson, who has been used like the Giants used Sanchez early on (bullpen to starter back to pen) by the Red Sox. Nick Hagadone, who has much higher upside than either Alderson or Barnes, a LHP who throws in the mid to high 90s, with a plus slider. Yes, he was coming off TJ surgery, but he’s got great stuff and the profile to be either a legit ML closer or a frontline starter. He allowed a .167 BAA last year. Hagadone was the Red Sox 3rd ranked prospect last year and that was despite missing most of 2008 to injury. Before he got hurt he was a candidate to be brought up in September to help their bullpen.
Masterson was the 4th ranked prospect for Boston going into 2008, ranked only behind Buchholz, Ellsbury and Lars Anderson.
On top of those 2 highly touted guys, the Red Sox threw in Bryan Price who has good stuff but didn’t pitch very much at Rice, and is either a future rotation or back end bullpen guy.
Stop acting like the Red Sox gave up a bag of balls in exchange for V-Mart. I thought everyone was in love with Shapiro here anyway?
The trade that looks bad is Freddy Sanchez, not the Garko one. It’s not Garko’s fault he got hardly any playing time here, blame Bochy for that.
by Hobbes2d on Oct 26, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All this is agreeable. Red Sox gave up more for V-mart then the Giants for Mr. F and Garko.
Atlest that is the belief. We over rate our prospects and everyone on the planet over rates the Red Sox.
by skunk5150 on Oct 26, 2009 11:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Believe it
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 26, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what this means
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 26, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nerdy reference
For the English localization of this anime Naruto, they gave the main character the catch phrase “Believe it!”
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Naruto is too popular now to be nerdy.
Although, I’ve only seen when they’re all still young, and even then I missed some toward the end of that. I haven’t seen any of this older stuff.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t miss anything. The non-story filler at the end of the first part of the Naruto anime may be the nadir of television history.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 26, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I guess. I stopped watching the anime when it began relying on tons and tons of filler arcs. I only read the manga now.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear that’s the best way.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if I was going to invest my time in reading a huge manga right now, though, I’d pick up One Piece first. It comes way too highly recommended.
In terms of graphic media, I just finished up Y: The Last Man, and I’m waiting for Scott Pilgrim 6 and for RASL to make any real progress. In the meantime, I’m slowly catching up on my Hellboy.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 26, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, I love One Piece so much. Even in the anime when there’s filler, it’s actually tolerable. Have you heard about Dragon Ball Kai? It’s all the original DBZ episodes but updated to HD AND with the filler taken out! There isn’t much new animation, but they did make new opening and ending animations. I’ve only seen the first episode, but it’s already brought back warm fuzzy memories.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 26, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw you mention Dragon Ball Kai somewhere, but I didn’t know what it was or how it fit in. I might be checking that out.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 27, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that was on Facebook.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 27, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s also shorter from what I hear.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
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by Zetsuboushita on Oct 27, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering the filler was taken out, yes. It got pared down from 300 episodes or so to 100.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 27, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My understanding was that each episode was slightly shorter, but that was probably a misunderstanding.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Oct 27, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, it’s probably a bit of both, depending on the episode.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 27, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Naruto is too popular now to be nerdy.
Never heard of it, but from the look of that picture, I’m going to have to disagree. That looks pretty damn nerdy.
by Missing Barry on Oct 27, 2009 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A kid in my college wore the head thingy
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 27, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, ok. You couls also be up in a mansion somewhere in Wiscansin
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 27, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that I now know this. Fucking dubs. The だってばよ horseshit was bad enough, but “Believe it!” somehow manages to be even more obnoxious.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Oct 27, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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