Padres to hire Hoyer
Still no female GMs, thanks god! Next thing you know they'll let them run for president or something.
Anyway, I wish the Giants would do something like this. Who knows if he'll be a complete failure, but at least there would be some hope around this place for awhile.
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I guess Kim Ng isn’t good at interviewing, or something.
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by Kitspool on Oct 21, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We should SWOOP on her to groom her as the successor to Sabes.
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by Natto on Oct 21, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or we could hire outside of the organization and find someone who doesn’t think like Sabean.
by Hobbes2d on Oct 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…she is outside the organization.
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by groug on Oct 21, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.
by GiantPain on Oct 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you don’t understand. Outside. Get it?
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by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Natto said groom her as a successor to Sabean, that means she would then be inside the organization.
by Hobbes2d on Oct 21, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 22, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s because Ng really stands for “Not a GM”.
The lowercase G is what throws people off.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
question
What is Ng’s role, exactly, with the Dodgers? I’ve heard her name bandied about a lot over the past few years and am just curious… does she have a defined area of expertise or is she more of an all around Assistant GM-type in LA?
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 21, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stealing from the Red Sox front office is a good strategy
they seem to have somewhat of a clue there and aren’t a bunch of old timey baseball dinosaurs.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I never knew Steny was a baseball man.
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by groug on Oct 21, 2009 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This was my thought too.
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by jcb9 on Oct 21, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given his experience, he could really whip a team into shape.
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by leftymalo on Oct 22, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A majority of the team, anyway.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 22, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good move.
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by rotorueter on Oct 21, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Oct 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Hoyer seems like a good future GM candidate. Ng will get her shot eventually.
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by jponry on Oct 21, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ng will get her shot [to get back in the kitchen] eventually.
I mean, come on. She’s a woman, how many tires has she ever kicked?
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 21, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides
we all know the Padres can’t risk the cooties factor
by Giant Voodoo on Oct 21, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re called lice.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…and they’re nothing to be ashamed of.
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by rotorueter on Oct 21, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ng will get her shot eventually.
I hope you’re right, but I don’t know if that’s true. Baseball is a boys club and hiring her as the GM would certainly ruffle feathers in any team for the mere fact that she is a woman. Sadly, her sex makes it a risky move, so it would take extremely progressive ownership.
I also wonder why so many people feel strongly that he is such a great candidate. I have heard she is a great negotiator and wonderful o nthe administrative side, but I’ve never heard her named tied to player acquisitions, draft strategy, etc. I think in many ways her sex helps her as much as it hurts her. If she were a white man, would people be consider her “overlooked for jobs” this often? For that matter, would she get this many interviews if she were a white man?
I don’t know the answers to those questions, but I think they are fair
by NeifiChicken on Oct 21, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pascarelli was saying last week that they’d already decided on Hoyer for the job, so I pretty much assumed the Ng interview was just a PR move to show how progressive they were (or a kind of voluntary “Rooney Rule” move).
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by Roger on Oct 22, 2009 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The old boys are racist, too.
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by rxmeister on Oct 21, 2009 7:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s pretty disgusting.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that
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by jponry on Oct 21, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Dave Stewart talking about having issues with racism when he was an Assistant GM, too.
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by jcb9 on Oct 22, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't his fault
That was just the Atkins diet talking.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 22, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute. Women like baseball? We can vote? We can wear pants? Where the hell have I been?
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What are pants?
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by howtheyscored on Oct 22, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howie doesn’t wear pants.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 22, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well in all fairness with legs like his why should he?
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by daveinexile on Oct 22, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KLaw answered a question about Ng in his chat today by saying “if it was Ken Ng instead of Kim we wouldn’t be hearing anything about him”…or along those lines.
by WTF on Oct 22, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The first male, asian GM would still be a pretty big story.
Also, it’s impossible to know. It’s conceivable that “Ken Ng” would already be a GM by now, what with the impressive resume of being a part of some high-quality FOs.
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by rotorueter on Oct 22, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim (Bryan, TX)
With Jed Hoyer (apparently) taking the SD job, why does Kim Ng continue to get passed over for the top spot? Or is it a case of her being a high profile candidate due to her gender that all of her interviews gather more attention than other multiple interviewees?
Klaw
Let me answer that with another question: Why should Kim Ng get a GM job? The qualifications of GM candidates are almost completely unknown to even serious fans. Yes, you’ve heard of certain candidates, because they’re touted by friends in the media. Ng gets even more publicity because of her gender; Ken Ng wouldn’t get half the same press, even if he was precisely as qualified as Kim Ng is. The only GM candidates fans can adequately assess are former GMs, because on the rest, you don’t have enough information. In many cases, I don’t even have enough information.
by WTF on Oct 22, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that doesn’t seem quite fair. plenty of male assistant GMs out there get plenty of attention as possible future GMs (Forst, Antonetti, Hoyer, etc.)
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by jponry on Oct 22, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colletti was another back when he was with the Giants.
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by jcb9 on Oct 22, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get what he means though. Those people receive attention but why? He’s saying that even to well educated fans and people like himself it’s pretty hard to distinguish how qualified even assistant GM types are.
It’s generally pretty tough to find out just how much responsibility these people have in their respective front offices and if their particular job experience makes them a qualified GM candidate or not.
by Hobbes2d on Oct 22, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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