Short Season prospects - who's next to emerge?
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 11:14 AM PDT
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PrintI think it's a consensus on this board that our prospect pool in the upper minors isn't especially deep. The Cal league team is loaded and most everyone is familiar with their roster with many on the board have actually seen SJ games. The Augusta team was light year's behind the 08 squad from a talent standpoint and then you come to the frontier of the prospect map: the rookie leagues.
What I'd like to ask the board is this if you had to focus on the lowest three levels (S-K, AZL, DSL) and pick out certain prospects as big risers next year, who would they be and why?
Here are my three.
1.) Edward Concepcion - props to AngelWillSaveUs (that handle makes me sad.) In July he posted his AZL scouting report leading in with "Concepcion is NASTY" He went on to refer to 96-97 MPH heat with a change and a solid curve. When the AZL league BA chat happened the writer went on to say more or less exact same thing. According to BA he was mid 90s and touching 98. May eventually hit 100. Developing curve and change. He's posted FIP's the last two years much lower than his ERAs (3.98 and 2.76 as opposed to 5.43 and 4.47.)
I think if there's any prospect that's going to go Thomas Neal on our system it's this guys.
He does have to prove a few things. He didn't even average 5 IP a start last year, so he has to go deeper into games. His ERA has to fall in line with his FIPs of past years. He has to survive his first big jump in competition going to the Sally league.
Certainly will be a big challenge for Concepcion, but I think he's got a solid chance to jump onto the national prospect radar.
2.) Hector Sanchez - I've been reading this board for a little over two years and just about when I started following it there was this legend being passed around. This story was about the chosen one: a young venezuelan who could miraculously turn four unhittable pitches into something called a "walk" in which he was able to go to first base unimpeded. I know it sounds crazy. I was skeptical. But it turned out the legend was true and he's kept walking ever since. His BB% of 11.9, 14.5, 11.5 at age 17, 18 and 19 are very impressive.
Having no idea what to think of a developing player with an actual plan while going up to bat, I figured that Sanchez was a Daric Barton type. A guy who didn't really have the D to play anywhere sufficiently and didn't have enough power to make up for it. Then BA comes out with their AZL prospect review indicating that, "his strength is his defense." That he threw out 45% of runners stealing and "is a good receiver that blocks pitches well."
If Hector Sanchez is a solid to plus defensive catcher that drastically alters his prospect profile.
He supposedly has a bad body, but we're used to Bengie, so he'll seem like Rainer Wolfcastle.
This is a guy that this board has been fond of for quite awhile. If reports of his defense are accurate, we've got another solid catcher propect coming through our ranks.
3.) Ariel Hernandez - This one's pretty much a complete shot in the dark. I had been real curious about this guy due to his age and early success. Aside from stats I have a really hard time finding any information about the DSL players. One thing I did find about Hernandez is that aside from Rodriguez he was the Giants only other 6 figure Latin American free agent signing of '08. I'm assuming it was a low six figure deal, because I don't remember hearing about it, but this certainly gives me hope that he's got a real nice arm. He's also 6'3", so plus future velocity doesn't seem unlikely to me.
He had three real tough starts (15 ER in 14 IP) in the middle of the season, but when he was on he was pretty solid. In his other 40.1 IP, he allowed 25 H 11 BB and 7 ER with an FIP of 2.93.
Hernandez isn't likely to have a big stage any time soon, so he'll likely be under the radar for quite awhile. I'm very interested to read the first scouting report on his stuff, but due to his signing pedigree, age and size, and pretty solid production; he's potentially a pitching prospect to watch out for.
So what short-season players do you think we'll move up the rankings next year?
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I really like all three of the guys you mentioned as potential fast risers in the organization. I’ve been a supporter of my son for almost 3 years now. I look for him and Concepcion to make the jump to Augusta. Hernandez could start off in the AZ league and move up to SK or Augusta late in the season. My additions:
Kendry Flores was a 17 year old pitcher on the DSL team. I look for him to show up in the AZ league next year. He was, by far, the best pitcher on that Dominican team and is very young. No idea about his stuff, but the numbers speak for themselves: 66 IP, 7-2, 2.18 ERA, 45 H, 24 BB, 57 K, 1.05 WHIP.
Ydwin Villegas is another young, athletic, Venezuelan SS following in the footsteps of Ehire Adrianza. His D doesn’t draw the raves that Adrianza’s does, but he does get some love for the glove and some praise for his bat. Put up a .302/.345/.352 line with a 9/21 BB/K ratio in 159 ABs. 12/15 SBs as well. Just turned 19 at the end of the season.
Jose Casillas is a favorite of mine who has fought injuries, but has mid-90s gas with a great sinker (around 65-70% GB rates).
Other pitchers to watch from the SK team are Chris Gloor and Jeremy Toole from this past draft.
Of course, other draftees who have yet to make their debut include Zack Wheeler, Tommy Joseph, Brandon Belt and Mathew Graham.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
You’re right on Flores. His numbers are better than Hernandez across the board. I was surprised to find out about Hernandez signing bonus so I included him. Flores is at least as deserving.
I saw S-K play, so I’ve seen Villegas and Gloor.
I saw Gloor in relief and he was pretty impressive. If he gets in better shape I wouldn’t be surprised to see his stuff bump up a bit. If not, I think we should make him a loogy and see him take off. In 18.1 IP in relief Gloor had a FIP of 1.51 and a K/9 of 11.3.
Villegas was pretty impressive as well. Seemed to have a good idea of how to play the game. I didn’t see a laser arm but the range was there and I can understand him having a positive defensive reputation. He had two hits while I saw him and had a nice, balanced compact swing from each side. I don’t think he’ll ever have much power but I can definitely see why the Giants brass would be high on him.
Both Jose Casilla and Stoffel look very promising. I saw Stoffel pitch and I was definitely impressed.
I’m not sold on Toole. I was really excited when we drafted him b/c BA’s draft report had him flashing mid 90s heat with a plus bender when right. I haven’t seen Toole so I can’t say one way or another but I cam remember certain posters that had seen many S-K games that have been more impressed with other pitchers. I just don’t think he’s flashed the type of stuff he did at times in college.
In addition to the debuts mentioned, I’d also include Barrios and Fuentes. Should be interesting to follow them as well.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
100% agreement from me.
Gloor had some sort of shoulder injury in college and told me that he lost velocity after that by 3-4mph. I agree he looked very promising too. Next year should be very telling.
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I was thinking about the lower level pitching prospects. We certainlyhave some talented relief pitching prospect (Casilla, Stoffel, perhaps a guy like Jose Valdez) and we definitely have some talented guys (Wheeler, Jorge Bucardo and Graham) who seem to be big innings eaters in the making.
A lot of our pitching talent in the lower minors is kind of in that nether region between starter and relief prospect.
Salsbury (4.2 IP per start)
Cameron Lamb (4.1 IP per start)
Concepcion (4.1 IP per start)
Gloor (4.1 IP per start)
Westcott (4.1 IP per start)
Toole (4 IP per start)
It will be interesting to see which of these guys can consistently pitch another inning or two and firmly establish themselves as a starting pitching prospect.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 23, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Gawd I love talking prospects in October.
Thanks so much for this, always nice to read about guys just about to be noticed.
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 21, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions
This is a guy that this board has been fond of for quite awhile. If reports of his defense are accurate, we’ve got another solid catcher propect coming through our ranks.
Excellent. We can finally move Posey to DH to save his body.
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He means too much to us as the bullpen catcher.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really
Posey will come up in 2011 and his 6-year service time will expire in 2017. For the Giants, that’s barely enough time for Sanchez to get prepared to play catcher at the ML level – maybe everything breaks right, but we can’t expect he’ll be ready without at least 1,000 minor league games catching.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
No problem
Just keep Posey in the minors until 2013 and Sanchez will have two more years to prepare.
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I have not seen him play but I look at Ryan Cavan and wonder how his glove is. A SS the walks more then he K’s (alright be picky and make me state it is only by 1 walk) with 241 ISO. Yes, at 22 he is probably a bit old for the NWL but his line and position makes me real interested and if he can field he could raise rather quickly.
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I agree with you on Cavan. The power and plate discipline is a pretty nice package if his defense is adequate.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The defense is adequate though not spectacular IMO. He has a decent arm and decent range but not going to amaze anyone with the ability.
I think Dan Cook is one to watch. He’s not overly flashy either but has a ++ arm and very good range. Not a ton of power but he hits the ball hard and for average. I mentioned here before that he reminds me of a good Randy Wynn type player.
I also like Casilla, the dude is legit. I look forward to seeing what he has as he moves forward but for the most part he was lights out here in SK.
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This was a post I was hopping you would chime in on!
You seen a fair ammount of these guys and us who have not but are now Jonesing for a reason to stay positive thank you.
That out of the way please let me ask you do you think Cavan might end up over at 2nd as he climbs or does he have a fighting chance to stay decent at SS in for the next level or two?
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Cavan seems to take a bit of a lazy path to the ball and depends on his arm too much to get guys out. If you’ve seen Schoop you’ll know what I mean. Lots of plays at first seem much closer than they should be.
I could see him more effective at second, he does actually have pretty decent range but he’s no Omar.
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He’s from San Mateo! Home grown players ftw!
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by MetalFaceDoom on Oct 21, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, I didn’t know much about him, but that is a pretty impressive line from him this year. I wonder where they’ll start him next season.
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I like our draft more than I did in June.
The Wheeler, Joseph and Stoffel picks all seem solid. I’m very inclined to right off Dominguez, but maybe he makes some serious adjustments.
The late signings of Walls, Belt and Graham gave us a nice boost.
Cavan, Crawford, and Biery all had promising offensive debuts and we’ve added some quality later round arms in Gloor, Toole, Westcott and Salsbury.
That’s a pretty decent haul considering we didn’t have extra picks.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t initially realize how impressive that .241 ISO is.
Here are some other top ISO in the Giants farm system:
John Bowkr .254 at FRE at age 26
Thomas Neal .242 at SJ at age 22
Ryan Cavan .241 at S-K at age 22 (6/28/87)
Roger Keishnick .234 at SJ at age 22
Chris Dominguez .222 at AZL at age 22
Brandon Crawford .219 at SJ at age 22
Buster Posey.214 at SJ at age 22
Ray Duran . .196 at DSL at age 20
Matt Downs .191 at FRE at age 25 (his career high was a .199 ISO at S-K at age 23)
Buster Posey .190 at FRE at age 22
Chris Dominguez .188 at S-K at age 22
Ryan Rohlinger .187 at FRE at age 26
Jesus Guzman .186 at FRE at age 25
Josh Mazzola .171 at AUG at age 23
Darren Ford .163 at SJ at age 24
Drew Biery .158 at S-K at age 23
Joel Weeks .157 at S-K at age 24
Sundrendy Windster .155 at AZL at age 20
Juan Martinez at S-K at age 22
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
If Crawford can learn to not strike out, he’ll have a good shot at being totes awesome.
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It was at a much lower level while only being 6 months younger, but Cavan struck out almost half as frequently as Crawford did in SJ while walking almost twice as often (% wise.).
I’m pretty sure that Crawford is much better defensively, but I think there’s a decent chance that Cavan proves himself to be the better hitter.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s going to have to start at San Jose next year if he really is going to have a shot at ~making it.
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I still think a .241 ISO and 15.0 BB%, even considering his age, is pretty impressive for a SS.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
So you think Augusta and a possible mid season move would be too conservative?
Don’t get me wrong I would love to see him get aggressively moved up but I have never been able to guess-estimate how the Giants’ Front Office will do their assignments ahead of time. ( Yes, I been thinking of adopting him for a bit now.)
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by daveinexile on Oct 22, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Considering Chris Domingez ( .222 ISO in 40 PA’s the AZL) posted a .188 ISO in 197 P.A.‘s ar S-K this year Cavan’s posting in 233 PA’s (from either middle infield position to be honest) has me very interested.
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by daveinexile on Oct 22, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I was pretty shocked.
I could be mistaken but i believe Bowker is the only other Giants minor leaguer to both walk as frequently and hit for as much power (using ISO) as Cavan.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 22, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Julio Izturis had a nice season
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Another batting prospect with an eye.
I’m encouraged that many of our top lower level hitting prospects already treat walks. I don’t have a lot of faith in our organization to teach that trait.
Both Izturis and the Bucardos seem to have to prove it at every level. I would assume that in large part due to power and velocity issues.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the front office has abandoned the idea that they can teach plate discipline and are simply signing and drafting guys who have it already. There have been a number of guys introduced into our system in the past few years who show strong tendencies in this area.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
I think this is the way we should’ve went long ago. I think plate discipline is the most difficult skill for many hitters.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 22, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know; I’d rather draft raw talent and try to develop it. Bowker’s clearly proved you can learn plate discipline. I wouldn’t assume that all guys can, and I wouldn’t assume that all coaches know how to cultivate it, but I’d say the guys who can squeak by on pure talent are the ones that are most valuable to me. Because if you can teach them skills, then you’ve got a beastly player on your hands.
I just have serious doubts aboit prospects learning plate discipline in our system.
I hope I’m wrong as there player in our system that would be pretty stellar if they only had plate discipline.
Take Roger Kieschnick for instance. The lack of walks are holding him back to an extent. He’s a very useful player if the walks come up enough to compensate.
This year Kieschnick would’ve needed 29 more BB to have a BB/K ratio of .5. My understanding is that .5 is the bottom of where you’d like a hitter to be.
The aditional BBs would raise Kieshnick OBP to about .375, thus making his high K rate much more excusable. Can Roger improve his plate discipline? I certainly hope so. It would be a good sign for the Giants organization from a player development standpoint. .
But I believe that this is the hardest adjustment for some guys to make. I have this unfounded hypothesis that there is a certain personality often found in deliberate hitters that work the count. I think finding guys with those traits should be part of our process in targeting amateur hitters.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 23, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the plug. My first ever scouting discovery! After I saw him I’d follow the box scores when he pitched and doubted myself a little because his performance wasn’t matching up with the stuff I saw. Glad to know that BA saw the same things. Do you have a link to that chat?
As for Sanchez, the bad body reputation is exactly right. That is probably why I didn’t really notice him at the game I went to although he did have a few hits. He’ll be one to watch.
As for the name, I thought about changing it but I’m going to wait until it works itself out. Hoping he’s found not guilty and gets his life back on track.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
It’s premium content and my password expired after the draft. A poster on the sfgiants.com posted comments from the chat. Scroll down to see the comments on Concepcion.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Dr. B is alive!
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He’s a cult celebrity on that board.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish he'd come back
He always had good info and insight.
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I agree.
Was there an incident? I remember him on this board plugging Jason Heyward prior to the 07 draft (that would’ve been nice.) Then he was gone some time thereafter.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it was also arround the time Dairies became fan post and we had to claim names and such. If your busy it can be a hassle. And once out of the habit a web site can stay out of the loop for a while.
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He made the switch over
Or, at least, he claimed his name. This was the last thread he posted in.
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If he doesn’t start 2010 in AAA, then management are a bunch of vindictive dicks.
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A few guys to add
None of these guys are unknowns, except maybe one, but still interesting.
Chris Dominguez – Tons of power and surprisingly quick (at least steals wise), given his size. Definitely needs to ratchet up the plate discipline.
Jorge Bucardo – Strikeouts, groundballs, and decent control. Sign me up. I’ve read that scouts think he can add velocity too (FWIW).
Jason Stoffel – Just a relief arm, but could move fast and his intro to pro ball was stellar with 19 K’s and 1 BB in 20 IP.
David Quinowski – A guy to root for who is actually interesting on his own merits. Here’s hoping the Giants jump him up a few levels to see what he can do.
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I’ve always like Quinowski because of his last name. Not many guys have made the majors with a ‘Q’ last name. My last name begins with ‘Q’!
I’m hoping he gets sent to AA. Maybe you’ll get a chance to see him pitch (is Richmond near you?) next year.
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Yeah, Richmond is close to me. I’ll be going to a few AA games next year, hopefully. Maybe meet up with Roger.
Nice
It should be a pretty interesting team with most of the SJ team transported there.
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Nice to see Quinowski bounce back from injuries. He was pretty solid during the playoffs here in SJ. Not overpowering stuff, mid 80s, but had good location and got everyone out.
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My son and I thank you for the kind words.
He tells me that he routinely hits 87-89 with the fast ball. He seemed to have gotten better as the season progressed here and basically attributes it to more innings worked=better stuff as the season progressed. The times he got hit hard he said his arm felt like a noodle from being up and down in the pen prior to coming in.
I anticipate he will be in SJ to start assuming of course the organization keeps him.
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I really like Jorge. I was kind of surprised he didn’t make the NWL league top 20. His FIP might indicate some degree of luck but I was very impressed with his performance as a 19 year old.
Dominguez looked real awful the one night that I saw him, but he might have more raw power than anyone in the organization. Definite boom or bust type, but I’ll be pleasantly surprised if he can revamp his swing and approach as much as I think he needs to.
Stoffel is real good and will move quickly.
Don’t know much about Quinowski aside from what Rich has posted.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve heard a pretty wild variation on Jorge’s fastball. I get the sense that it’s upper 80s now, but he’s still pretty much a string bean so there’s good reason to expect additional velocity.
As Marcello pointed out his ability to get both Ks and groundballs at that age is pretty impressive.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I posted this in the NLCS gamethread, but figured I would throw it here too since you guys seem to know your prospects
Don’t know much about him, but this is from the very credible Jorge Arangure
Hearing Wagner Mateo may sign within next couple of weeks with San Francisco. Nothing final, but it’s looking like he’s headed to the Giants
Mateo of course was the 16-year-old kid who signed with the Cardinals for $3.1m but had his contract voided because of vision issues
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OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE
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Also
We talked a bit about him here, and this is a short summary of him from back in May:
Pros: Mateo is what scouts like to call a toolshed: some have projected him to own five plus tools. He put on quite the show in batting practice, as you can see in the video. One swing sent a ball over the wall in center field, an easy 400-foot shot. Mateo’s game isn’t just power, as he utilizes his plus speed on the basepaths and in the field. His arm has also shown improvement, grading as a 60 on the 20-80 scale with the display he put on for scouts at the event.
Cons: He can rely on his speed too much in an attempt to make up for the areas where his instincts fail him. His bat is impressive in batting practice, and he showed solid plate coverage in the game against advanced competition (Team Canada), but he’s still a free swinger with a bit of a hitch in his swing in games. One scout suggested that Mateo will fail early in his pro career at the plate, but contends that he’ll be able to make the adjustments and become a big-leaguer in the end.
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sweet
what about that eye problem though? Must not be TOO serious for the Giants still to sign him. Hopefully contract isn’t too much
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I’d love for the Giants to be the team to give Mateo a second chance.
I’d have to think the price has come way down and you’ve got to love the idea of a kid with that kind of talent and a chip on his shoulder.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk is going to love him.
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I’d be pretty psyched if that was true.
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It seems legit; MLBTR thinks it’s good enough to post (so I would imagine it’s not just random speculation) and considering the Giants almost signed him the last time it make sense. Now if only Villalona turns out to be innocent…
Apparently Mateo is playing in a WWBA tournament in Florida this weekend on a loaded team that includes Jameson Talleon and Josh Sale. The Giants will most assuredly be their in mass.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Sanford’s K rate, but I don’t see how he’s in the same league as Casilla or Stoffel.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s the scoop on Jose Valdez? He supposely threw hard before his injury. Is the velocity back?
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 21, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions
In addition to all those already named (and I think everybody knows I’m a big fan of Bucardo and Casilla and am very interested in Villegas, Sanchez, Concepcion and Izturis), I’d name a couple other potentially interesting guys from the DSL team.
Carlos Willoughby and Rey Duran were both a little old for the DSL for my taste, but both showed offensive potential. Willoughby was league MVP and posted a .466 OBP as a 2B, Duran I believe led the league in HRs and also posted a nice secondary average.
Flores appeared to be the class of the pitching staff, but relievers Armando Paniagua and Franklin Noel posted the best K rates. Noel’s numbers were particularly interesting: appeared in only 9 games (none starts) but had 27 IP, a 0.00 ERA, 0.67 WHIP, 29k to 6 bb. At 19 he too was a little old for the league, but those numbers are interesting enough to keep an eye on. The previous year he’d posted 50 K/22B in 51 IP.
All that comes with the caveat that DSL stats are pretty close ot meaningless. And of course I’m exciting to see the full season debuts of Wheeler, Joseph, and Graham.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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All that comes with the caveat that DSL stats are pretty close ot meaningless.
I know BA did a study of successful players coming out of the DSL and reached this conclusion, and I’m not questioning it, but I just wonder if anyone knows why this is?
Hoping to see the Flying Squirrels next year.
Still the loving, adoptive father of Hector Sanchez. And who doesn't love switch-hitting catchers with power and patience?
Like the complex leagues, I think you have two major issues: 1) there’s just a huge variance of ability levels across the league; and 2) there’s a huge variance of developmental age levels — lots of 16, 17 year olds all the way up to 22 or 23 year olds. It’s really not that far removed from a high school or JC league — except with much more raw quality of play because a lot of the kids have never played organized ball before.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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There's some minor league kid named Posie or Posey or something like that...
From what I heard he has some great tools but lacks the gamertude and veteraness that is crucial for catchers to make it in the big leagues
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