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Observation: Where are Sabean’s detractors when he speaks at FanFest? I never hear booing or challenging questions. Are they standing in line for Polish sausages when he talks?

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought that was Haft’s job. Even if Haft thinks Sabean is a genius, he gets enough letters from the fans to ask Sabean some of the tough questions he gets asked.

No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you

by rxmeister on Oct 20, 2009 4:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

much-improved Eugenio Velez

Sigh…

I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 19, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

VROOM!!!!

Now with less Suck!

Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.

by daveinexile on Oct 20, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haft’s answer to the first question is ridiculously uninformative.

Q: How can the Giants improve their offense?
A: The Giants must improve their offense

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2009: The return of Los Galacticos!

by Useful_Idiot on Oct 19, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This one was my fave. I don’t mind any of these players really, but it was hard to get past the writer’s first sentence. And then the “Good job, Brian” and Haft’s pithy response took it to another level of LOL worthiness.

I think Sabean did a great job with his Spring Training invitees this year, and that might have been the biggest factor in us having a winning record. Juan Uribe, great player with a lot of pop, not to mention his presence in the clubhouse; Eli Whiteside, great game-caller with a little pop, too; Andres Torres, perfect late-inning defensive substitute with tons of speed; Justin Miller, great middle reliever but unfortunately got injured; and the same for Brandon Medders. Good job, Brian.
— P. Donati, Foster City, Calif.

Once in a great while, an e-mail like this one arrives.

by esseffgeez on Oct 19, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

These Q&A’s seem to get worse and worse.

Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's

by Giant among Angels on Oct 19, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little pop? I guess in the sense that he has a very, very small, almost microscopic amount of pop

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster

by jponry on Oct 19, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hit a home run once… or twice?

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Oct 20, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is this pop of which he speaks? The stats do not back it up.

Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.

by GiantPain on Oct 19, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eli’s pop is less stats-y, more fizzy sweet.

by esseffgeez on Oct 19, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pop

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Oct 20, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“a little pop” = .393 SLG in the minors – and a .325 SLG in 2008 in the freaking PCL.

Also, we’re totally giving Juan Uribe a multi-year deal and he’s totally going to return to being Juan Uribe as soon as the ink dries.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 19, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

From amazing dumpster treasure to 3 year pit of disgust. He WILL go back after this flukey season. Please please let my fear be irrational.

by Giant Voodoo on Oct 20, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Medders was injured?

Oh , right. Got a pinched nerve in his neck watching baseballs fly away.

Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.

by victor frankenstein on Oct 20, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, what do you want?

Medders was a cheaply signed middle reliever who posted a 3.01 ERA, respectable strikeout rate, and gave up fewer HRs per 9 innings than Matt Cain. I don’t know what more you could ask for unless you expect Cy Young winners pitching the 6th and 7th innings.

Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).

by EliminateMe on Oct 20, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this one
Three suggestions in need of your feedback: 1. Would an offer of Jonathan Sanchez, Travis Ishikawa and Kevin Pucetas be enough to bring us Adrian Gonzalez? 2. Would an offer of Brian Wilson, Joe Martinez, Fred Lewis and Bowker be enough to bring us Diamondbacks catcher Miguel Montero? 3. General manager Brian Sabean was at his best when he had Ned Coletti as his assistant, so why not hire Kevin Towers in the same capacity, given his nose for talent and ability to trade?

Massive underpay, Massive (unnecessary) overpay

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by Speedforthewin on Oct 19, 2009 10:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

General manager Brian Sabean was at his best when he had Ned Coletti as his assistant

He was “best” then because that’s when he still had Barry Bonds.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 19, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

An article on Rotoworld pointed this out:

Miguel Montero: .294/.355/.478 in 425 AB
Chris Iannetta: .228/.344/.460 in 350 AB

29 points of OPS, and yet Montero is a breakout, and Iannetta is a disappointment.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Oct 20, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, b/c Iannetta had OPS+ from 2008 was 127 while it was 105 this year.

Montero went from a 94 OPS+ in 08 to a 112 OPS+ in 2009.

Not saying one is better than another, but when talking about breakout/disappointments baseline is important.

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 20, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but I get the feeling that Montero is going to be overvalued relative to Iannetta going forward.

Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...

by rotorueter on Oct 20, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For example:

Going into this year if Tim Lincecum and Greinke both posted a year line of: 3.00 ERA, 200K, 220 IP

one would be a disappointment and one would be a break out

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 20, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh geez

How is number one a “no way” but number two as “absolutely no way” ?
 

C’mon Haft…

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Oct 20, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was already suggested…I think…

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 20, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not trade Bumgarner for some banger stud?

This may be the dirtiest-sounding thing I’ve ever seen.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 19, 2009 11:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Link

"It's too late now."

by ResDog on Oct 20, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the comments

We should actually build from within, Posey etc. but that would probably mean taking a step backwards in 2010.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 19, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, one more complaint
I’ve indeed supported Sabean more often than not. I believe he has performed admirably overall. Check the record. Some of his trades and free-agent signings haven’t helped the Giants much. This could be said about any GM who stays on the job as long as Sabean has.

Yeah, uh, I am checking the record, and it says the Giants are 382-427 in the last five years, that they haven’t made the playoffs since 2003, that they haven’t won a playoff game since 2002, and that they’ve had either the worst offense or close to the worst offense in the game for five years straight despite having Barry Bonds for the first three of those years.

Of course, it his last mailbag, a reader claimed that, aside from Joe Mauer, every single starting catcher in the majors had at least 350 minor league games as a catcher, which proves Buster Posey isn’t ready. Of course, that’s not true – there are at least five or six other guys with under 350 minor league games as a catcher, including some of the best in the game – but Haft apparently didn’t bother to check – he just agreed with the guy and said his points made perfect sense.

Chris Haft is either a shill, a dimwit, lazy as hell, or all three.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 19, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

they’ve had either the worst offense or close to the worst offense in the game for five years straight despite having Barry Bonds for the first three of those years.

They didn’t really have Bonds in 2005.

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by groug on Oct 19, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough. Two of those years, then.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Despite agreeing with you overall I’m going to cling to one of my last fading memories of unmitigated, unadulterated hope as a Giants fan and point out that we did indeed win a playoff game in 2003. Thanks Jason.

My Bucardo is better than yours.

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by Roger on Oct 20, 2009 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, you’re right – I’m confusing the 2003 NLDS with the 1997 NLDS.

Anyway.

Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis

by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WIN - OR ELSE - NOW!

Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.

by victor frankenstein on Oct 20, 2009 1:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Know what I'd like to see?

Grant send an email to Haft’s inbox refuting Sabean and Bochy’s “Better situational hitting” them with his most recent post ("Giants Organizational Philosophy). I have a feeling such an email would become one of Haft’s “I received several emails similar to yours.” Yeah, like all the emails he gets are from dimwits who have know idea what they are talking about. There have to be SOME intelligently written emails. But, because the inbox’s purpose is to make Sabean and Bochy not look like idiots, those logically negative emails don’t get a response.

by Squire_Boone on Oct 20, 2009 7:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I get the feeling that he chooses the worst ones or the dumbest questions not necessarily to make Soybean look good, but to make himself look smart by comparison.

Bonds stands alone.

Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 20, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haft responds to individual e-mails also

I traded a few with him last year.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Oct 20, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did that go?

Did he offer a different side than he does in the inbox? Or, was it the same?

by Squire_Boone on Oct 20, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it was just general questioning like “How does Tim’s new pitch look?” and stuff like that. Nothing really critical about the organization.

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Oct 20, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parrot

Haft’s a parrot.

by Giant Voodoo on Oct 20, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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