All-time favorite SF Giants: left-handed starter
by StickRat on Oct 17, 2009 1:25 AM PDT
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The second-base poll was as close as I had anticipated. I am surprised, however, at the outcome. Personally, I voted for Jeff Kent. Going in though, I had Robby Thompson picked to take it at 3:2. Kent actually had a massive lead early on, but Thompson closed the gap. I think it's safe to call it, but if anyone still needs to cast a vote, here is the link:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/10/8/1077582/all-time-favorite-sf-giants-second
The current second-base poll is as follows: Jeff Kent 50%, Robby Thompson 42%.
I am calling the pinch-hitting poll for Candy Maldonado, who received 19% of the votes. Second place was approximately a four-way tie between Felipe Crespo, Mike Ivie, Nate Schierholtz, and (write-in) Mark Sweeney.
Now, in honor of the Carlton Chronicles re-dux, this is the poll for the all-time favorite San Francisco Giants left-handed starting pitcher. To avoid ridicule, the imposition of over analysis, and the like, please vote for your FAVORITE player at each position. It doesn't necessarily have to be the best, meaning if Dan Gladden is your fave in CF, it's your prerogative to vote for him over Willie Mays. Regarding WRITE-IN VOTES ... PLEASE, when casting a write-in vote, check other on the questionnaire, then below title a comment with ONLY THE PLAYERS NAME. Any thoughts, statements, etc. should go in the body of the comment. Anyone else voting for the same write-in candidate, PLEASE respond to the previous player comment by titling your comment with ONLY A "+1". If you would like to clarify a "+1" comment, please include the player's name in the body of the comment.
This FanPost is reader-generated, and it does not necessarily reflect the views of McCovey Chronicles. If the author uses filler to achieve the minimum word requirement, a moderator may edit the FanPost for his or her own amusement.
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Woody, not very close
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SCIENCE
by CB30 on Oct 17, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Woody
Between ’99 and ’00 my dad and I had a run of 11 straight Giants games that just happened to be Rueter starts.
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by j14 on Oct 17, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WOOOOOOODYYYYY
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by jponry on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 17, 2009 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I probably would have voted for Woody if my last memory wasn’t of him being bombed around the park his last season. I voted for Vida Blue, because I remember the excitement of us acquiring an elite pitcher like that after Charles Finley attempted to unload his best players to the Yankees and Red Sox and the commissioner voided the trades.
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by rxmeister on Oct 17, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Voted Estes
As a kid the only Giants’ aces seemed to be older guys who threw junk, they didn’t even really look like baseball players…Reuschel, Burkett, Swift, etc…I lived in Connecticut and never got to see Giants’ games unless they played the Mets or Braves….I still remember the first time I saw Estes….
Estes was the first guy who was young would blow people away and strike people out…I loved him for it…I thought he was going to be our ace for years….
The meltdown was quick and severe (kind of like the Phillies 8th inning yesterday), but his 1997 season was pretty special to me…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 17, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Burkett and Swift weren’t older guys when they were Giants – Burkett was in his 20s and Swift in his early 30s. And while they weren’t dominant strike out guys, I wouldn’t classify them or Reuschel as junk ballers either.
I am fond of Estes, though. Prettiest curveball ever. Too bad he was such a headcase.
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by jcb9 on Oct 17, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll never forgive Estes for that hop off of second base in the 2000 playoffs. Never.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Oct 17, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 17, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right about Burkett
I guess he just seemed like he was older? His windup? I don’t know….Don’t get me wrong, I liked the guy…
I wasn’t a full fledged baseball nerd yet, groundballs weren’t sexy yet, ya know?
But, something got me excited about Estes….Maybe, it was that curveball….
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 17, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the other thing about Estes is that Swift and Burkett had been gone a couple years by the time he came up – we were coming off opening day starts by Terry Mulholland and Mark Leiter. And the team had been bad for a few years despite Bonds and Williams because we had no pitching, and then Estes came up and promptly had a really good year in 1997, which coincided with the first playoff appearance in eight years, so…
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by jcb9 on Oct 17, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hated Estes because he was a head case (and I hated him BEFORE that playoff game in 2000 when he went off the base). An infielder would make an error and he would shoot daggers with his eyes at that player.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 17, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah hell, you shoulda seen Gaylord Perry in his prime. He would just have a shit fit on the mound if anybody dared make an error behind him. It wasn’t just daggers out of his eyes, he stomp around the mound and shout and swear and pummel the rosin bag into pulp before he could get back on the rubber and throw a pitch.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
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by Roger on Oct 17, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…good times….
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 19, 2009 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t have said it better.
I was 14 and ’97 was an amazing year for him and the Giants.
by ben p on Oct 17, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shawn Estes was the first baseball player I ever paid attention to ever for any reason of any team. I took his fall from grace so badly I hardly cared for the Giants of 2002 and 2003.
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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 17, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woody
If Estes or Lowry had stuck around longer, I might have been able to justify it. But Rueter was just too cool.
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by groug on Oct 17, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly.
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Oct 17, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he have some ridiculous .750 win percentage for most of his career?
I dug that.
The Toy Story comparisons before the Series games were hilarious because of the actual resemblance
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by victor frankenstein on Oct 23, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woody narrowly edges out Dravecky and Estes for my vote.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Dravecky for sentimental reasons, but he was also awesome.
I’m also a fan of Lowry. Vida Blue was just before my time. Trevor Wilson always looked a goofy hick with his weird perpetual grin/grimace thing.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 17, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't like doing that "+1" thing.
So, uhhh… plus one.
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by multiphasic on Oct 17, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dravecky all the way
Vida was slightly past his prime when we got him. Rueter was good, not great. Dravecky could dominate. And then you add in his story – the cancer, the surgery, the unbelievable comeback, the injury, and then the amputation. My favorite of all time.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 19, 2009 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately every warm memory of Dravecky ultimately leads me back in the end to not so warm memories of Candy Maldonado.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Oct 19, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sure I have no idea of whom you are speaking….
; )
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 19, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zito…he taught me that Brian Sabean can’t be trusted with more than 2 million dollars. He also made me so mad that I went searching for a place to bithc about him and i found this watering hole of all things we hate about the Giants
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 17, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WOODY
someone needs to post a toy story pic. noah comes a close second, though
LOL ZEETS
by sfoakbay on Oct 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Lowry...
Although I almost regret it because Woody was a close second.
by AmorVincitOmnia on Oct 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Zito because when he is “on” he is my favorite pitcher to watch, I love his windup and watching his curveball snap through the zone
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 17, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lowry, only because I hardly remember Woody, and Zito hasn’t reached favorite potential.
by pwoper on Oct 17, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely Woody. The dude just always won, despite junky stuff. I almost voted for Vida, because I got to know him a little bit a few years ago, and he was just ridiculously cool. But I never saw him pitch, so Woody it is.
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by JRPhillips on Oct 17, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He also had a great opposite field hack. Bloops through the 6-hole FTW
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 17, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL ZITO
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by CB30 on Oct 17, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Zito’s got my favorite pitch.
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by cheno on Oct 17, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Vida. He was the first star (other than McCovey) that I remember.
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by SFGuy on Oct 17, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Atlee!
Growing up, there weren’t too many ballplayers who looked like me, so Atlee and Lenn Sakata were always favorites.
My pops used to fix his cars back when he lived on the peninsula. I have an autographed Atlee Hammaker baseball somewhere in my parent’s house.
On top of that, whenever the bases are loaded at an all-star game, you’re guaranteed to see Atlee. Not many Giants can claim that kind of notoriety.
/sigh
by Ed Jew on Oct 17, 2009 5:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dravecky
Was awesome upon arriving in SF. Pitched lights out in the NLCS, if not for some unforeseen events he would have been the winning pitcher in what would have been a clinching of our first pennant in 25 years.
He also came back from the tumor to pitch in 89 and not only got 2 important wins in August, but his re-injury and comeback gave that team a big boost.
And furthermore, he is my favorite because after he retired he was penpals with my older brother for a couple of years and was very nice enough to respond to many letters my brother sent to him over a 2-3 year span. He even sent pictures and a signed copy of his book and I thought that was extremely nice of him since it’s totally something he didn’t have to do.
Noah Lowry would be 2nd for me. Couldn’t stand Estes or Woody.
by Hobbes2d on Oct 17, 2009 6:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing about Dave
We suffered from so many years of bad trades. I mean, you think Sabean’s made some doozies, I can’t even think of the last good one before…
Al Rosen traded Chris Brown and pitchers Mark Davis, Keith Comstock and Mark Grant for Dave Dravecky, Craig Lefferts and Kevin Mitchell. Davis did go on to win a Cy Young, but Mitchell won an MVP and Dravecky anchored that staff. As much as I hated to see Chris Brown leave (think Pedro Feliz in the early years), this one was highway robbery. And at last, we won one.
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by achiappanza on Oct 22, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zito
when he’s on it’s beautiful. when he isn’t it’s comedy.
by Tim LinCyYoung on Oct 17, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know Vida and Atlee were actually traded for one another. Is that the first time in these poles we’ve encountered that phenomenon?
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Oct 17, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or is there an “era” differential in the results? Vida Blue is one era, Dravecky another … then Woody over Estes, but between the both of them that’s the era I got into the Giants, the whole ‘97-2002 glory daze. And then there’s Zito.
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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 17, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s like that with anything.
Favorite OF: Willie Mays, Kevin Mitchell, Barry Bonds, etc…
Favorite 1B: Willie McCovey, Will Clark, JT Snow
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Oct 17, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s an era differential in every poll. The results are skewed towards more recent Giants. I voted for contemporaries in nearly every poll. The only one I voted for before my time was Juan Marichal.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 17, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The CF poll should be pretty clear cut.
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by Natto on Oct 18, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Dan Gladden in a landslide.
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by jcb9 on Oct 18, 2009 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WRONG
Ken Henderson
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 18, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, sarchasm and all, but I still have to point out that Kenny Henderson played LF for the Giants.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Oct 18, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LF
Len Gabrielson, anybody?
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 19, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The look
Ken Henderson and Chris Speier rocked the lamp black long before Will Clark did.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Oct 22, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kept a scrapbook as a kid.
Henderson had a small streak going. I know it got to eighteen games because by one pasted “Standings” I remember scribbling “18 STREAK”.
I also remember a picture of him looking at a bat he was holding.
Said bat, of course, having been lit on fire to wonderful effect.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Oct 23, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck that
Darryl Hamilton.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 18, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Diaz.
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by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There will be a face palm if anyone takes Marvin Benard or Aaron Rowand over Willie.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 18, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FIGHTIN HYDRANT
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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 18, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trevor Wilson signed my cap before Game 162 in 1993. I’m just wondering who else voted for him & why.
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by ResDog on Oct 18, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trevor Wilson
his grinny grimace over Woody’s funny ears.
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by kennv on Oct 18, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor Ron Bryant
0 votes.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 18, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wondered if anybody else remembered Ron Bryant. And the lesson we learned from Ron Byrant’s career? Stay out of the hotel swimming pool.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 19, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t actually remember him – I wasn’t born until 1980 – but I know the name.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same scrapbook as above.
A picture of Ron Bryant with a four foot stuffed bear.
Hell yes. 24 wins. His fifteen minutes.
"I don’t know why people feel the need to come up with reasons 'why' for everything..." - Missing Barry
by victor frankenstein on Oct 23, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
24 wins on an absolutely crappy team
I would vote Ron Bryant before I’d vote for Woody. And that’s not even voting for ’fro over ears. With modern medicine, Ron would have bounced back and had more good years… he was really a find.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Oct 22, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowry.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Oct 18, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know where Lowry even is these days?
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by Squeaky on Oct 18, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he vanished once Cookyman stopped being sad.
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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 18, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was probably the toughest group for me to choose from thus far. I had to go with Lowry, in the end.
/sigh
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by UnleashTheGore on Oct 19, 2009 7:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lowry and Woody
Can’t decide. I appreciate pitchers that field their positions well and they were both athletes out there. They could also both put the ball in play and get the sac bunt down…and that’s hot.
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by Goofus on Oct 19, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Watched Woody K 10 Cards in a 98. I remember being crushed when Dusty ran Livan out in game seven instead of Rueter.
That said, Shawn Estes is the man.
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
by woomikee on Oct 19, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Skewed to the more recent
Or else Mike McCormick would have a lot more votes.
by bradleybear on Oct 19, 2009 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know think Mike McCormick would have won a poll like this had it been held in November of ’67. He had some good years but he was never a fan favorite by any stretch. As far as one year wonders go both Billy Pierce and Ron Bryant were much more popular.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Oct 20, 2009 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob KNepper did some decent pitching while a giant
Nothing great though.
by bradleybear on Oct 19, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well, he was probably better than Vida as a Giant — certainly had the better year in ’78 which was one of only two bright spots and exciting seasons between Mays and Will Clark. I thought about mentioning him as well except 1) he was better as an Astro; 2) he totally trashed the Giants and San Francisco after he left and 3) as one of the leaders of the 70s era “God Squad” he was pretty outspoken about what a cesspool of iniquity he considered the Bay Area to be.
So: Good? Yes, decently. Favorite? No.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Oct 20, 2009 5:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting to hear he trashed the Giants and San Francisco considering he came back to the team in 1989 and 1990.
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by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing what a paycheck will do to motivate a guy.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Oct 20, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd almost vote for anyone from the 1978 team
They were such a breath of fresh air. I even liked Roger Metzger with his half-finger and Terry Whitfield with that crazy stance. Remember when Clark, Herndon, and Whitfield were all in the top 10 BA list? I used to love to open up the paper and see that.
"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino
by achiappanza on Oct 22, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember my dad talking about being at a game Bob Knepper was pitching when his wife was giving birth at the same time. Apparently, they put updates on his wife’s labor up on the scoreboard throughout the game.
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by jcb9 on Oct 20, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LH pitcher
Make it from the fifty’s forward and;
Antonelli, McCormick, or Pierce would put the poll candidates on the 2nd shelf.
by thehondohurricane on Oct 20, 2009 5:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vida Blue
With the Giants, he had an odd tendency to pitch better in even numbered years than in odd numbered years: good years in ‘78, ’80, and ’82, an awful ’79 season. One wonders what his career would have looked like if Oakland hadn’t given him 312 innings, with 24 complete games at the age of 21. But he still was a fine pitcher over a long career; just a little under a HOF standard, perhaps, but a very good pitcher.
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by Giantsfan4life on Oct 20, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vida was a joy
First guy I remember really demonstrating how a pitcher adjusts to losing the dominating heat. Isn’t he still the only guy to ever make the ASG as both a Giant and an Athletic?
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by achiappanza on Oct 22, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost voted for Randy Johnson
Randy Johnson and Steve Carlton are my all-time favorite LHPs, followed by Vida. Since Vida had a longer (and much more successful) stint with the Giants, he got my vote. However, I thoroughly enjoyed watching RJ pitch last season.
I really liked Knepper and Hammaker in their day. Both of them seemed to be on the verge of greatness, but couldn’t get over the top. Lowry falls into that same category IMO. I know Rueter is a fan favorite, but I remember him as a workhorse who could be counted on for a lot of innings.
And then there’s Zito… best curveball I’ve ever seen when he’s “on”, but a complete train wreck as a Giant.
by karl m on Oct 21, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Complete train wreck of a contract maybe.
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by Natto on Oct 21, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately for him...
his contract and his W-L record as a Giant are inseparable. I really liked him when he pitched for the A’s and I was excited when we signed him… until I saw how much we paid. There aren’t many guys who can handle the pressure that comes with that kind of contract… CC comes to mind as one who apparently can.
My “train wreck” comment is driven by a combination of his tendency to come unglued after giving up a few tough runs… what appears to be an inability to go more than 5-or-6 “quality” innings… AND knowing we’re paying $18m a year to watch him do so.
by karl m on Oct 21, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It helps when you have an offense that’s as awesome as the Yankees’.
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by Natto on Oct 22, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote Lincecum.
Even though he’s right-handed.
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by Whiteteaandpoptarts on Oct 22, 2009 6:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He only throws right handed to give himself a challenge.
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