Open Grammar, Punctuation and Spelling Rant
by koel on Oct 15, 2009 6:04 PM PDT
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Granted, English is a difficult language with confusing, inconsistent rules. It is our language, though, and we need to respect it and use it wisely. Posters and would-be posters, you will find that your message may be taken a little more seriously if its intended audience can actually read it and understand it. Coherence is the first step. Even if your message can be read, if you write like a dolt, people may assume that you are a dolt. Your potentially eloquent defense of Bengie Molina’s offensive value thus may fall on apparently deaf, uncaring ears, and you don’t want that to happen. Don’t complain to me that life isn’t fair.
Disclaimer: I do not claim to be all knowing on this subject. I do not have a degree in English, and I make plenty of writing mistakes myself.
At any rate, a few of my pet peeves:
· Apostrophe abuse: Resist the temptation to insert apostrophes when using the plural form of words, but also remember the exception: “its” is the correct possessive form. Don’t ask me why. I don’t know why, but that is the way that it is. Just learn and apply.
· Your and You’re: It’s not that hard. One means “you are” and the other refers to something that belongs to you.
· Should of/ Should have: Sure, they sound similar when you contract these paired words, but what sense does “should of” make? None, obviously.
I have plenty more, but now it’s your turn. Have fun. I hope I didn’t include too many typos.
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Oh man. I’m grading essays for one of my old high school teachers right now
I could write an essay of my own about this subject.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 15, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
And it’s even worse now that texting is so widespread.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 15, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and auto correct spellin and grammar
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by say hey nation on Oct 17, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s worse than worse are those people that have auto spellcheck and don’t use it. I’ve taken some online classes, where all work is posted in a bulletin board type format. Oh my! The typos!
by Merope on Oct 18, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, and auto spellcheck only catches misspellings-- not words that are WRONG but correctly spelled.
“Why, yes, I do like the opera, as a matter of fart.”
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 18, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but these were typos… they weren’t words- in any language.
by Merope on Oct 18, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what drives me crazy…a person I work with can’t spell. I have a whole stack of calendar pages with Thursday spelled Thrusday, the other day “He ate a cracker.” became “He aet a cracker.” and today we had the gem: child x was home sick today with a caught.
Waaaaaah!!!
by Merope on Oct 15, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tchrs cannt spel!
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 16, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds more like dyslexia than just poor spelling.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what drives me crazy?
When someone applies the grammatical standards of scholarly essays to a communication format that’s about one step removed from txt msgng.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 15, 2009 6:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It’s more than one step… fairly complicated concepts get thrown around at times, between dick jokes and recipes. Face it – it’s a written medium. Our only indication of the quality of posters’ thoughts is the quality of their written communication. If your post reads like a text from my niece, I will consider your post with the seriousness I would give to her texts… having said that, yes, it is possible to be too persnickety.
Plus it’s just fun to make fun of other people’s innocent mistakes.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
K, more thn 1 stp.
closr 2 txtng thn esay, tho ;)
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 15, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I want to agree with you completely,
I have trouble with the line “our only indication of the quality of posters’ thoughts is the quality of their written communication”; it seems to me that if you understand what’s written,whether in text style of formally, you can then evaluate the quality of the posters’ thoughts.
I think we are somewhere in between texting and formal writing in any case.
by FreshStart on Oct 15, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sign me up.
Function over form.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m all for function over form only so long as bad form doesn’t obscure good function. It doesn’t always, but it definitely can.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lyke lol!
Agree with you. Its weird this is a thread. You should of said this earlier. Your a genius!
~me
by vincerelli on Oct 15, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When someone applies the grammatical standards of scholarly essays to a communication format that’s about one step removed from txt msgng.
Your right. Poster’s make mistake’s. Should of known better.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 16, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Misty water-colored memories....
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2006/9/7/161518/9157
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am happy to have, it appears, sparked such warm and fuzzy feelings.
by koel on Oct 15, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As you can see, I also remember that fondly.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Notes on Grammar
Do not use an apostrophe solely because you are making a word plural.
I wasn’t going to post in this diary, but then I saw a commercial that did that, and it pissed me off. It was “The Manning’s are ready for football season.” I wanted to hurt someone at ESPN (I mean, you know, besides Joe Morgan and John Kruk and Stuart Scott and all the people I already didn’t like at ESPN).
I’ve grown up a lot since before dinner, when we last talked.
by groug on Sep 7, 2006 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I remember that, and it pisses me off again.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 16, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agreed with you!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 17, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no memory of writing any of the things I posted on the thread. Apparently I was drunk. But still passionate about the that/which distinction.
by Evan on Oct 16, 2009 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Accroding to rcseareh at Cambrdige Univetsiry, it dseon’t matetr in waht oredr the lertets in a wrod are. The olny imroptant tnihg is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rihgt plcae.
The rset can be a ttoal mses and you can slitl raed it wiuhott prlboem. Tihs is becuase the hamun mnid deos not raed erevy lteter by itlesf, but the wrod as a wlohe.
by Missing Barry on Oct 15, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Consideration for your readers
It is much more difficult to read a garbled mess than a well thought out sentence.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t read it without problem, and most misspelling problems are actually words that people spell with the wrong letters. Which doesn’t apply in the least to the “research” you’re citing. You have to know how to spell the words to be able to read them out of order. Step one: spelling. Step two: reading a jumbled mess.
Spelling matters.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like how you using “citing” like it was a serious comment on my part…. :)
by Missing Barry on Oct 15, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might have fallen in. It seemed like a perfectly earnest comment at the time.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say I thought that thing I linked to was pretty interesting the first time I came across it. To me it seems the small words are just as easy to read whether they’re misspelled or not, but the big words are a little more difficult. Either way I think it’s still interesting how we read things….
by Missing Barry on Oct 16, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever played with the Stroop Effect stuff? Also very interesting.
by Merope on Oct 16, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
English degree mumble mumble mumble mumble…
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only teasing; up above, you were serious about the subject, but here (in an earlier post, I gather) you sort of dismiss it. Just kidding around. Probably a bit angry at you for making me thing about you puking in that other thread.
by FreshStart on Oct 16, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha. No, I really just have a long-standing crusade against the English Major as Grammar King idea. It’s useful to the major and you’re expected to have a basic understanding of how to write, but most English majors haven’t seen the inside of a stylebook since high school. English majors don’t study grammar. They study books. Big difference.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Our English Department (I teach history at a university of sorts) imparts some of the worst writing advice imaginable.
by FreshStart on Oct 16, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh! I have one.
You really should only use one space between sentences.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
y 4?
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA
by kennv on Oct 15, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a convention that comes from a need to increase clarity based on the limitations of early typesetting technology. Typed media has long since advanced to the point where it’s easy to distinguish punctuation and spacing using a standard single space. The entire utility for the rule has been out of date for decades. At this point it’s nothing more than an arbitrary standard that mostly just stands to confuse people, if we’re speaking in practical terms. And the standards of written language should function in practical terms. Most of them do, even, oftentimes, when they seem strange.
In short: There really is no need for it.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I don’t care if Missing Barry does it. For reasons cited in another thread.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do it too.
But I’m trying to stop.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 15, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer two spaces at the end so I’m sticking with it.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 16, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I was in the rosterbation thread for a moment.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though I’m an editor and have m fair share of pet peeves, a baseball blog seem like a reeeeally weird place to be anal about such things.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
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by cheno on Oct 15, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Weird that this post seems to be getting so much opposition from the blog that spawned this and this.
Among others.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Grant never deleted that second diary.
OMG WHY AM I CALLING IT A DIARY WTF
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 16, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, a lot of people were really fighting hard to have that comma removed. A lot of people were wrong.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS
..is my current pet peeve: people who can’t spell “whoa.”
Or, for that matter, “yeah.” “Ya” is vaguely Scandinavian, “Yea” is King Jamesian, and “Yah” isn’t anything.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 16, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who man, calm down!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 16, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"ya" ticks me off
i’m cool with “yea” as slightly drunk (i’m looking at you pika) posters have popularized it.
by sfoakbay on Oct 16, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Devil lives at 666 Yah Weh.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Specifically on a baseball blog, a team re-signs a player (with hyphen), it does not resign a player. That one always bugs me.
by Steve on Oct 15, 2009 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is what bugs me and it happens a lot.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 15, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just e-mailed someone on this topic. But he didn’t get the point, so I resent it.
by Grant on Oct 16, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
e-mail with a hyphen? What is this 1990?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That reminds me… I need to go find my cross colors jeans and pick up Who Framed Roger Rabbit on laser disc.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 16, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what if it is? Huh? What then?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The we prepare early for the Y2K meltdown. Also buy stock in Apple, Dell and Google
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by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or get a copy of this (advertised in this very thread, on this very site):
"/>
Though email, website, and other tech terms are very open to debate as to there spelling.
:~)
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then it must be Hammer Time!
I still believe in Bowkermania.
by rightcenterfielder on Oct 16, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The power of kitty compels you!
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 16, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here we gooooooo!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 15, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mario?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s-a me!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 16, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Mario has a speaking role these days (in a limited sense, sure). Isn’t it about time that Link opened his stupid mouth? I’m tired of all his lame grunting.
Man, if I was in charge of Zelda, that shit would be awesome.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he’s the classic mute protagonist!!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/is playing Twilight Princess on gamecube
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He comes off as a real prick. Everybody is trying to talk to him and he’s like “Yeah, I’m too good to talk to you. I won’t even say text words to you. Suck on that.”
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a bigger problem in Half-Life
Alyx Vance falls in love with Gordon even though he (you?) never say a single word. Sure, he’s an awesome alien butt-kicking man-god, but you never hear him respond or react to anything. He’s pretty much emotionless. Unless that’s just she’s looking for in a man.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shin Megami Tensei is similar. At least the Persona series. I haven’t really seen how the other Megaten games play.
Although it doesn’t bother me in those games.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fool has a Gravity Gun. That’s enough to make anyone sexy/
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Oct 17, 2009 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tipping My Cap...
…to the brave koel, whose name is oddly not capitalized, for his quixotic undertaking.
I have but a single request to the English-speaking world. Please learn the difference between the words “lose” and “loose.”
That is all.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Oct 15, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know the word “Quixotic” actually comes from the surname Quixote, after Cervantes’ character Don Quixote? It’s actually a word that describes the character. When you say something or somebody is quixotic, you are literally saying that it is “like Don Quixote.” I fucking love that. I love language. Man, that’s so cool.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also of note: The word “boobies” is etymologically older than the word “boob.” :D
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(This is probably because of the birds, but it still makes me happy.)
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This reminds me of an episode of Survivorman. Les Stroud caught a young booby and ate it. He mentioned that he was eating booby breast, which was pretty funny.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 15, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you prefer your boobies “brown,” “masked,” “blue-footed,” or “red-faced”?
by FreshStart on Oct 16, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as they’re feathered, I’m not complaining.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted about a week ago that lose and loose really grinded my gears
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once in a while I write “losed”, notice that it looks wrong, and then stare at it for a minute before figuring it out.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 17, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Using “literally” to mean figuratively, and using “irony” to mean sarcasm.
by Louis XVI on Oct 15, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The irony thing bugs me a bunch.
No one knows what that word means anymore.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 15, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way.
Everyone knows what it means now, nobody knows what it used to mean.
Don’t you love speaking a living language?
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 15, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I like feeling that I’m better than others (actually, I do like the living language idea, except I feel like the definition of irony shouldn’t be subject to it).
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 15, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your definition of irony was obsolete before you were born.
Isn’t it ironic?
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 16, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you think?
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definition of “irony”: Ain’t this a pretty shirt, all clean and irony and everything?
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 16, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lelaina: Can you define “irony”?
Troy: It’s when the actual meaning is the complete opposite from the literal meaning.
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 16, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alanis Morissette really pissed me off with her colossal misuse of “Irony” (which was really just tragedy in her examples)
by FreshStart on Oct 16, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to post this but figured I’d be ridiculed for missplelling Alanis Morisette.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except, as has been pointed out before, it was ironic that she named the song “Ironic” because none of its examples were ironic.
by David Arnott on Oct 16, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, of course. I mean, how do you think she came up with the title?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's a piece of low-hanging fruit at this point
I hesitated before posting, knowing that the whole world now engages in harmonized vomiting when it hears that song.
by FreshStart on Oct 16, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
‘Harmonized vomiting’ makes me think of Ferris Bueller’s Day Off when he is playing a song on his keyboard using barfing noises.
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when people use “irony” for things that are just coincidences.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 17, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its ironic that you thought that b/c I was thinking the same thing
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 17, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mostly don't like the verb 'to fail'
being used as a noun (‘The fail was epic!’), or as an adjective (‘that was epically fail’).
Also, I don’t like the word epic being thrown around everywhere.
Stupid internet, providing me with income etc
by bobnothing on Oct 15, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like grammar
I like grampar, too.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 15, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
by jctGamer on Oct 15, 2009 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yum.
I sometimes actually think that a lot of those typos are on purpose. Like it’s some kind of industry marketing thing. Can’t be authentic if you don’t have typos! Sometimes I think that. Most of the time I don’t.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pot Stew sounds good.
I’ll have the kind with rice noodles.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol @ nabe ryouri = pot stew
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Oct 16, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like number 25.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 17, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re brutally honest.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 17, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its the freakin internet
Half the posters are high, or drunk, and as long as others have a chance of comprehending the post, it is good enough. The more drunk I get, the more incoherent my posts are, and the more likely I am going to post, at least until I conk out completely on the floor. Go have some garlic fries.
by bradleybear on Oct 15, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
More incoherent than usual?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 15, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Half the posters are high, or drunk
I think that by and large that probably doesn’t represent the participating audience here.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m high and drunk.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 15, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See what I mean?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but I don’t see what marcello means.
Not at all.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 16, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LULZ
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
more like two-thirds.
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Oct 16, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously: the ridiculous mistake of "then" for "than."
Once again, “than” is used in comparatives, such as “X is better than Y.”
“Then” is used when laying out a sequence of events, such as “we did X, then Y” or a logical relationship, such as “if X, then Y.”
And I am now in my 3rd year of owing McCC the cleaned up grammar & usage guide based on the thread cited above by HowTheyScored.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 15, 2009 11:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone knows the grammatical difference.
It’s just a typo. And, if you’re like me, you tend to read what you wanted to write and not what you actually wrote.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 15, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people really do not understand the difference.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. You'd be amazed.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy...
You folks understand the utter shock of stepping from a social network site’s Arizona chat room into this? Or pretty much anything MCC has running. Gawd, the contrast!
It is, as they say, to laugh. I love it!
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The best thing about the internet is that it gives everyone a chance to express their views in whatever format they like and independent of the worth of their ideas.
The worst thing about the internet is that it gives everyone a chance to express their views in whatever format they like and independent of the worth of their ideas.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 16, 2009 5:33 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I would rather be the mayor then Howie
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 5:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, your gonna say that makes to much cents. But it dont.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if you were the Mayor, then you’d be dealing with some serious self-loathing issues right now.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, yes, you're right.
Second, how did you know? To what are you referring?
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 18, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather be the mayor then Howie
Wouldn’t you be unhappy with yourself for producing this sentence?
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 18, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why in that order?
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that's the sequence I'm following. I'll let you know how it goes.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 18, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She must have kissed some one some time. Or she would not be your gramma!
/ ducks!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 16, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I already made that joke!
Although, I notice that nobody cared about it when you posted it, either.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 16, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been bust for shameless recycling and reusing! Again.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 17, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
May I have a cheeseburger?
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 16, 2009 6:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not with that attitude.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is it , that "it is what it is"?
Where was I when I was where I was?
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 16, 2009 6:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This might help answer some of your questions.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
riot
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
get over it, already
we don’t come here to be grammatically correct. we have to do that at work/school/what have you. we come here to discuss food, video games, and once in a while baseball, and we don’t feel like proofreading our sentences here.
it’s one thing if you can’t even read what someone’s writing, but if it’s clear and easy enough to read, then just get over your pet peeves. there are different things that irritate all of us, but we aren’t forcing others to conform to that.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 16, 2009 7:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s one thing if you can’t even read what someone’s writing, but if it’s clear and easy enough to read, then just get over your pet peeves.
But grammar makes things clear and easy to read. Nobody is asking anybody to be perfect. Typos happen. Some people can’t spell. Some rules are too obscure to be realistically adhered to. Big whoop. It’s not a matter of proofreading. Proofreading catches mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes. Again, big whoop.
But the whole idea that a basic command grammar and style is secondary to clarity is very weird to me. Your own ability to communicate demonstrates exactly those skills, even when your keyboard is sticky or your index finger only wants to hut the y and never the t.
Now, I’m not advocating holding some kind of sitewide clinic. I’m just really surprised that so many people here are going, “What!? God damn! Don’t tell me how to write! I’ll write how I damn well please!”
It’s just a grammar thread. We’ve had them before. The antagonism in this specific one is very weird.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the whole idea that a basic command grammar and style is secondary to clarity is very weird to me. Your own ability to communicate demonstrates exactly those skills, even when your keyboard is sticky or your index finger only wants to hut the y and never the t.
The thing is, a lot of people (including myself) have good ideas that are thought-out, however they lack typical grammar skills. Should this give their comments any less clarity, if, say, they don’t capitalize their letters or use your instead of you’re? Yes, it’s going to be annoying for those who have good grammar skills to look at “your” when they intend to say “you are”, but don’t you immediately know what they meant to say, and go on with the post?
I realize we’ve had grammar threads before, and that’s actually what kind of annoyed me even further today. The regulars have discussed this not only with its own fanpost, but within 75% of the other threads, there is someone policing it and making comments. It’s annoying, is all. We get that many of you don’t like bad grammar, but for a lot of us it’s not some light switch you just turn on and go, “OK now I’m going to use proper grammar.”
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 16, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re demonstrating a perfectly fine command of the language. It doesn’t happen that often here, but there are some posts that really are semi-literate at best.
I think anything that even begins to approach the command and clarity you’re showing in your comments right now is more than enough to get by without complaint. I’m not a big fan of jumping on typos or misspellings, but I do think there is value in being at least semi-literate.
I think where this FanPost failed was in the introduction. By issuing a statement of purpose that calls out (without using names) members of the community, it became a personal thing instead of just a discussion of a topic. I honestly don’t think there’s anything wrong with just talking about this stuff. Some of us find it really interesting. And if you know that your comments can be read without inducing vomit, there’s no reason to take anything like this personally. And if you don’t know that about your comments, then maybe you should take a look at your skills.
I guess I’ve just been approaching this thread as an OT thread about a subject that interests some of us. I can see how it reads at the beginning as an entreaty to the community to suck less, and I can definitely see why that would be taken poorly. I just don’t see the point in being self-righteous about it from either end.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I should just stay out of threads that irritate me :)
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 16, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It never really occurred to me that it could be fun discussing grammar for some people.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 16, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I’m all for calling out threads that irritate you. If you don’t call something out that you don’t like, then you’re likely to keep seeing it. I’m also all for standing up for threads that don’t irritate you. We were just on two different sides of that this time.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then...
If you don’t call something out that you don’t like, then you’re likely to keep seeing it.
…I’m calling out STATS.
Drop that shit NOW.
lawl
(What I think the abbreviation “LOL” would sound like if spoken as a word)
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The post was meant to be light-hearted, not self-righteous. I am not calling out anyone.I did mean to provoke discussion.
by koel on Oct 16, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I try to mix in bad grammer on porpoise some times.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
helL i don’T eveN capitalizE thE firsT letteR of everY sentecE worD
SEE WHAT I DID THEY’RE!
by sfoakbay on Oct 16, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can deal with just about anything, but I really flip my lid when people don’t use serial commas in the titles of their FanPosts.
So screw you, Vampire Weekend. I care, and I’m not ashamed.
by Grant on Oct 16, 2009 8:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I second the motion to flip lids over the non-use of the serial comma.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ADORE THE SERIAL COMMA
..just like Bausch and Lomb, Stearns and Foster, Simon and Garfunkel, and She and Him; all huge serial comma fans.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 16, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So screw you, Vampire Weekend. I care, and I’m not ashamed.
I don’t see a list there. I do see a reason for a pause by the reader.
/confused
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 16, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG...
Dave! You did it!
No spelling errors!
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/hand raised
What’s a serial comma?
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 16, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its when someone, who usually wants access to your money, beats you over your head every time you awake from a coma
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a comma found only in Alpha Bits cereal.
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the same as an Oxford comma.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(squinting at HowTheyScored)
Please, Sir, let us call it by a descriptive and factual name (the serial comma) and not by some cutesy phrase that is jargon at best and tendentious at worst.
Good day to you.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 18, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Open Grammar, Punctuation, and Spelling
Open Grammar, Punctuation and Spelling
The first sentence has a serial comma.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh
You definitely need serial commas then.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
by marcello on Oct 16, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT ITS NOT A SENTENCE
IT DOESN’T HAVE A PERIOD AT THE END
by sfoakbay on Oct 16, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last comma in a series of three or more (the comma directly preceding the final conjunction).
I went to the store, park, and convention today.
The serial comma is the one after park. Some people don’t like to use it. In 95% of cases, though, it allows for greater clarity. There are examples where it hurts clarity, but they are by far in the minority.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it’s not ALWAYS the final conjunction.
I like to each an apple, a snack bar, and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch.
But you clearly already get the point.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember being asked in an interview for a Tech Writing job my thoughts on the
serial comma and I had never heard the term before (this after being in the industry
for 10+ years).
They thought me sketchy. They were correct. They offered me a job anyway.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gunnbsketchy
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 16, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the comma used in series.
When presenting a serial list of more than two items, it is normal to use commas after each item: “John, Paul, George, and Ringo were among the most famous people of their times.”
The issue is the comma after the next-to-last item (“George” above): some people don’t put a comma there. That debated comma is called the serial comma or, because they advocate its use, the Oxford comma.
In simple series like that above, omitting that comma is just a moinor silliness; but when the members of the series are more complex, the lack can cause outright confusion—see the Wikipedia article (which is diplomatically wishy-washy on the subject), or the somewhat better article at About.com.
The obnoxious custom of omitting that comma almost certainly derives from journalism, where the tiniest space saved in a newspaper column is precious—journalism has many sins to answer for.
Of course, the easy answer for series with compound or otherwise complex members is to use semicolons instead of commas (in which case the final one is always provided).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Oct 18, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw you Grammar Nazis!
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Oct 16, 2009 9:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“No grammar for you: 1 year!”
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 16, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
Screw you, Grammar Nazis!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grammar really should be lowercase there.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless that’s the name of our traveling minstrel group!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh GOD! Natto has had a sex change!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only the G should really be capitalized in God, there.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How difficult is it to learn English, as compared to say German, or the romance languages?
And but so, I reckon English poses some obstacles to syntax/spelling/grammatical proficiency which, otherwise, folks wouldn’t stumble over.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 16, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For non-native speakers, English would definitely be more difficult than the Romance languages. I’m not sure about German because I’ve never studied it.
Spelling can be so arbitrary in English that even native speakers get confused doing it. Grammar’s not exact standard, but at least rules apply generally and not arbitrarily. I studied Spanish and spelling makes a lot more sense than English, though it does have gender in words which is odd. I’ve also studied Mandarin – if you look past the impossible character system (they really should switch to that pinyin alphabet officially), its grammar is actually much easier than in the Indo-European languages because you don’t have to worry about subject-verb agreement.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
by Yoyo on Oct 16, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spelling isn’t arbitrary in English. It’s just culled from so many different other languages (not just German, Arabic, Greek, and Latin, but also old and middle English… among other) that the roots and rules are easy to conflate. There really is a history to the way most every word in English are spelled. Most examples of words that do have a spelling that isn’t rooted in this way are actually spelled phonetically. So they would be the easy ones.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh… atrocious grammar there.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not arbitrary, but it’s not consistent either. Languages that have consistent spelling tend to be languages that were standardized (orthographically) in the modern era.
English just needs to be standardized. I nominate the Mayor to do that.
by FreshStart on Oct 16, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’ll anger hoards and hoards of historical linguists! Can you handle the wrath!?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They found Hussein. I think they can find you.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They find you if you hide in bunkers but if you stick to the caves you should be ok.
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn’t find Hussein. They found his avatar.
by FreshStart on Oct 16, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howie
….."you’ll anger “hoards” or “hordes”??
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 16, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly, I meant something about a specific episode of that show “hoarders” that dealt with an obsessive compulsive historical linguist. Geez, get off my back.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/now off back/
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 19, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hate pinyin. Yay for characters!
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Oct 16, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate both with the fury of 100 suns
Wade-Giles FTW!!!! Screw you, nonsensical communist romanization!!!
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 17, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Chinese ever drops characters (which it never will because we’re hardcore traditionalists), I’ll be angry. Chinese grammar is pretty darn simple.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Oct 16, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chinese can’t be expressed phonetically in writing while maintaining much clarity- too many homophones.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 17, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yoyo is just homophonic.
….sorry
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 17, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
homophonicphobic?
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 17, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found German pretty easy to learn, but it’s related to English, so that may have something to do with it. I’d be curious to know how someone with a different background feels about it.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that really bothers me is when people don’t break up giant blocks of text.
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Big block of text is big block of text.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Paragraphs are the only thing I find completely necessary….
by Missing Barry on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find SBN annoying for not allowing indentation (easily)
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s really an internet thing. Since the tab button scrolls links in browsers instead of causing indents, indentation doesn’t work online.
It’s why FanPosts default to hard breaks between paragraphs instead of soft breaks. Heck, it’s probably the reason that hard breaks even exist.
It is also the bane of many an essay-reader.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the Formatting Guide:
For this affect: Indented paragraph Tipe this: p(. Indented paragraph
Does it work? I’ll ask Preview.
It does.
p(.p(. I’ll try two.
Fail.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pew(.pew(.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
I wonder if you can apply css styles.
TEST
Sweet it works!
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another test
Suck it Russel Martin
weeee!!
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The title line got you!
/Teach me…Please?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
<
p style=“font-size:24.0pt”>Your text here</p
>
Couldn’t find a better way to post the HTML without the browser reading it. But you can take the ‘<’ and ‘>’ and add them to the beginning and end respectively.
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can also do “font-size: Xem” (where X is a variable standing for a ratio… 2em would create a font twice as big as the default… 3.5em would create one three and a half times bigger. You can also scale smaller. I prefer em for some reason).
in-line coding is also really useful to know for all this crap. Unless you like having line breaks everywhere.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have seen on the interwebz that em is the way to go. It’s cool because you can define the default and then use em to go bigger or smaller from there.
Unfortunatelyl, I don’t get to use a lot of styles at my job. It’s all about functionality.
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even without the title line, you can only make the text so big before it gets cut off. SBNation is not friendly to big fonts. Which is probably wise.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
UR 5
Seems to work in preview without cutting off. Let’s see what happens when it is actually submitted…
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
doh!
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHY DON’T YOU JUST TRUST ME?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard that before.
/rubs scar from when he woke up in a bathtub filled with ice only to find his liver had been removed.
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you didn’t trust me then, either. At least, not until the anesthetic kicked in.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Making me buy it back via eBay was kind of a dick move though.
Mustache. Grow one. - Steve Balboni
by jhiat00 on Oct 16, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if you had been more grateful in the first place I might have been more inclined to sell it to your directly. You were asking for that bidding war, my friend. You’re just lucky liver_lover05 had set a cap to his auto-overbid.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit
I once saw a titanium Colnago bicycle with a Buy it Now! price of $1200 on it (deal!) and I foolishly and naively thought I could bid on it and snag it for less.
And THAT , my friends , was the day I found out – the hard way – about autobidders.
It went for something like $1275. D’OH!
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSH (heard)
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
5, but big for ur age.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SBNation is not friendly to big fonts. Which is probably wise.
Or < blink > blink < /blink >
Can you imagine what threads would look like if the blink or marquee tags were supported?!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nowidontknowaboutallthatexactlyiwouldputparagraphsatacleannumbertwointermsofthingsifindcompletelynecessary
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should of/ Should have: Sure, they sound similar when you contract these paired words, but what sense does "should of" make? None, obviously.
I ‘spose you don’t like “shoulda.”
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 16, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Should’a’
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least “shoulda” sounds like it could be a lazily contracted “should have”, while there is nothing to say in defense of the senselessness of “should of”.
by koel on Oct 16, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? “Shoulda” sounds more like “should of” than “should have” to me
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 16, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Could be” is generous, perhaps, but the “a” in “shoulda” could come from “have”, which at least contains the letter “a”, unlike “of”.
by koel on Oct 16, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I just meant the way it sounds, although I suppose that “coulda”, “could have” and “could of” all sound alike is what is causing the problem in the first place so never mind
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 16, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relevant Weird Al video
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i just got done grading 120 9th grade essays and you are saying what i have thought and felt many time (with them). i, too, am annoyed by many mistakes that are done over and over. however, there is a difference between formal code and informal code. mccovey chronicles definitely fits the definition of an informal site, so i think the code should be informal. a bunch of guys waxing about their favorite team isn’t the place to quibble about conventions of english. i, for one, refuse to use capitalization because it is quicker and easier this way. i also take liberties with punctuation when (as is the case often here) there is a competition to post as quickly as possible.
i grade papers for a living. therefore, i think i get to say that if it doesn’t bother me, it shouldn’t bother anyone else.
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Oct 16, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
a bunch of guys waxing about their favorite team
a bunch of somewhat guys would be more accurate.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fransvestites?
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Oct 16, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does not capitalizing really go faster for you? I’m too the point where I’m so used to it that I’d actively have to think about not capitalizing to do it…
by Missing Barry on Oct 16, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’s the reincarnation of e.e. cummings.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 16, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone lived in a pretty brown house
with up so many little things brown
whose no one and whatever i don’t remember this poem off the top of my head and doing this brown riff is neither clever nor sensical and it is not even one of the ones of his that i like
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it definitely goes faster for me
screw capitalization
by sfoakbay on Oct 16, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s hope you are right, because if you are wrong…a shitstorm is coming for you, my ungrammatical friend.
by FreshStart on Oct 16, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not capitalizing stuff can make you look somewhat lazy, but misusing “your” and calling someone a “looser” tends to make you look dumb
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 16, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look dumb? To whom?
Let me axe you dis…do you judge a post for both content and delivery – delivery being broken down into different components such as formation of salient or pertinent points…yet dismiss the validity because the spelling sucked? Would the poster in that case be regarded as “dumb”?
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, not meant as harsh as it looks. And sort of ot. Yet , still...
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuzzy words reflect fuzzy thoughts.
The “aw, you know what I mean” defense is one of quite a number of shoddy defenses typically offered by those who cannot or will not trouble to express their thoughts with care. Even if one’s audience can understand sloppy language, the sloppiness nevertheless acts as a sort of “speed bump” on the road to absorbing the intent of that language. Moreover, there is a sort of “civility” argument: offering thoughts in poor language is like offering a meal on chipped, mismatched plates.
On-line assistance is not hard to find: at the usenet group alt.usage.english are numerous folk who will usually reply to queries in minutes.
And there are clear, relatively simple books available for those who care enough to pursue these matters. For usage, there is Wilson Follett’s Modern American Usage (get the original, not the one “updated” by someone else); for grammar, there is George O. Curme’s English Grammar (get the shorter “College Outline Series” edition). Each is available used for a pittance.
Remember that language is thought: even speaking only to ourselves in our own minds, we use words—the reason we can typically only remember back to age 3 or so is because that is when we typically acquire language. So when we express our thoughts in language that is sloppy, it suggests that those very thoughts are sloppy.
Anyone can make the occasional technical mistake—though grammar and usage both are a good deal more logical than some think—but fundamental errors of conception, such as singular verbs with plural subjects or vice-versa, show a less than firm grasp on the matters being spoken of.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Oct 16, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Still in despair.
"Use the stencil! Do it!"
konakona:「つかさに教われと...なんか非常に負けたような気がする。」
Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Oct 16, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember that language is thought
It’s hard to remember something that you don’t know in the first place. I’d say most people don’t think of language in this way. I know because I teach grammar and it usually takes a while to get my students to deduce this fact.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 16, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought is language is thought . . .
I have found that the “no memories prededing language” condition, which virtually everyone has, is helpful in clarifying that without words, we have no thoughts as the term “thought” is usually understood. Meditation and mystic states are means whereby the language-using left hemisphere of the brain is, in some way, sort of temporarily shut down, allowing direct access to the non-verbal right hemisphere—which is why subjects find it impossible to describe such states afterwards. (That’s an oversimplification, but it gets to the base idea.)
People who don’t realize that language and thought are synonymous will often be sloppy with both.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
by owlcroft on Oct 17, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you can’t clearly say what you mean, it’s clear you can’t mean what you say.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 17, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do believe that you have won this thread sir.
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 17, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"So I signed Michael Tucker instead of Vladimir Guerrero."
“Aw, you know what I meant. They’re both black, right?”
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 18, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not supposed to be dialogue. I probably should’ve cut the quote marks between ‘Guerrero’ and ‘Aw.’
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 18, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait.
Now I’m really confused.
Should I have used ‘single’ or “double” quotes in that self-reply?
I’z gunna kwit b4 i luze it totes, u no?
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 18, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point:
I hate Brian Sabean.
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 18, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It took me several minutes to decipher that last sentence.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 18, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly relevant
Anyone else think it’s hilarious that the L’Academie francaise has a body ‘in charge’ of the French language? Is made more funny that these people are known as The 40 Immortals? Is it downright hysterical that this fellowship was founded by Cardinal Richelieu?
Probably not, but it does amuse me.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Oct 17, 2009 2:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your misspelling of L’Académie française is hilarious.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 17, 2009 5:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re an unrepentant dick that no one will ever remember.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Oct 17, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, profanity… the last refuge of the obtuse.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
We are at war with Los Angeles. We have always been at war with Los Angeles.
Lowering the Quality of Internet Discourse Since 1985™
by S.F. Giangst on Oct 17, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what was your point, if not to be a dick?
by FreshStart on Oct 17, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s an interesting comeback, considering that I clearly know how to spell “L’Académie française” (stole that from your post) and did so successfully but for an accent and a curlicue. These are things that do not generally appear on American made keyboards. I deemed them to be not worth my time. It appears that you did not draw the same conclusion.
You are more obtuse than a speed bump. Carry on.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Oct 17, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the first strike of the brilliant.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 17, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just repent already.
Really, “unrepentant”?
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unrepentant
adj. Having or exhibiting no remorse.
Remorse is a synonym of regret, guilt, shame and self-reproach. As commonly defined, unrepentant simply means “feeling no shame.” It’s hardly an overstatement.
Also, ‘unrepentant dick’ sounds funny.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Oct 18, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I commit a crime and am called for it and refuse to admit or apologize then I am indeed unrepentant.
You posted , he pointed out a perceived error , you accused him of not admitting to a crime he had not been called for. The series of events just seemed odd.
Now if after he’s called a dick and still insists on his position then he’s being unrepentant – but in the above that hadn’t happened yet.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 19, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His dickitude is what has not been repented. I’ll admit a logical error, here; I assumed that he would not apologize for being a dick. This turned out to be the correct assumption, but was not necessarily correct at the time of my insult. I retract the adjective and leave only the ‘dick’ portion of my sentence.
I’ll insist into my grave that “You are a dick that no one will remember” just doesn’t have the same zing.
Someday girl I don't know when were gonna get to that place
Where we really want to go and well walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us baby we were born to RUNZ
-Proud Papa of Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Oct 19, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If language is thought
or if language is culture
or if language is expression
or if language is “living”
The French Academy is a brilliant example of social control. While some lingual and dialect variance does exist even within France, the state/elite control of the French language is often cited by social scientists as a key element in the creation of the French state and empire. An element that was “acceptable” then, but soon after the nationalist turn became an unacceptable means of (Western) state building – see Spain and its lingual and regional diversity for an example of several “nations” in a single state.
Immortals also get a sword. So that’s sweet.
co-dad of IshikaBOOM w/AfDC.
FIRE BOCHY FIRE MOLINA
by kennv on Oct 17, 2009 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never understood why some people are proud of their bad grammar. I do understand that at times you simply need to communicate your thoughts quickly, but so many get so defensive if they are called out on their mistakes. They act like it is their right to have bad grammar and that they come on the internet to let it out. We are not Youtube, we try to communicate with each other clearly and are all internet friends, so why not communicate in the clearest way possible.
Also good grammar is not elitism, or anyone trying to hold intelligence over anyone else, grammar just makes talking through writing that much easier.
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 17, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Row, row, fight the Powah
Grammar regulation is a tool of the bourgeoisie pigs.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 17, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let them eat cake, and COMMAS!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 17, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Standardized spelling is the opiate of the masses.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Oct 17, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i donno wut all this speeling and grammer stuff is about
i jus wanna tok about benji molena the best hiter ever!!!!!!!!!!!benji shuld be in the holl of fayme and if sabeen is smart hell sign benji to a three year contrackt and bochee too and i hope wine comes back to play right feeld becuz sheerholdz cant play worth crap but rowanz will get beter next year like he was in his eerly days with saint louise or philadelphia i think or wutever teem he playd on that had red unis and im pretty sure that pablo will win the tripel crowen next year and all you haterz will just have to SUFT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 18, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not filadelfia?
I like how, capitalization aside, you nailed probably the second-hardest word in that post (behind Schierholtz).
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 18, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Peacock , anyone?
Though my words they might be beautiful
Then again they might annoy…
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 18, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This also reminds me of a comment made by a woman who was a prostitute on a blog that no longer exists. She was on vacation in Hawaii once in a sightseeing boat. Whenever that bird was spotted, someone would call out ‘booby!’, and she would bust out laughing every time.
by boogalou on Oct 24, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I seem to have forgotten that I can’t hit reply, THEN sign in, or it ends up at the bottom.
by boogalou on Oct 24, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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