Yet Another Open Letter to the Giants
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 15, 2009 11:59 AM PDT
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Eugenio Velez cannot hit left-handed pitching. He was unable to hit left-handed pitching in the minors, and he's been unable to hit it in the majors. Considering this, and considering that he isn't Ryan Howard against right-handed pitchers, he should not start for the Giants at any position.
Also, Velez's second half wasn't as good as you think it was.
Sincerely,
McCovey Chronicles
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FUCK THIS TEAM
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
can we all sign your post-script, Declaration of Independence style?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
/signs name 10 inches tall
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 15, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Just to make sure King Neukom can see it
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
But, Velez/Torres…such a great leadoff man!
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Oct 15, 2009 12:02 PM PDT reply actions
VROOOM!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Holy crap! Look at Howard’s splits!
vs RHH 319/395/691/1086
vs LHH 207/298/356/653
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
Well, look at Werth. He is the anti-Howard
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really. A 770 OPS with good defense against righties isn’t the same as Howard against lefties.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
Look again:
Werth vs
RHP256/348/457/806
LHP 302/436/644/1080
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap! The Giants’ really do judge players solely by small sample size. 21 plate appearances in July and he’s great to them? No wonder Buster’s done.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
would you rather have velez or molina batting cleanup?
/shudders
Les Plack = more chicks
Dingerz.exe League Champs 2009- The Rile Rods...managed by yours truly.
by Headhunter Rollins on Oct 15, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions
I like these letters. Please tell me you’re simultaneously forwarding these to the Giants front office at the same time.
Simultaneously, yes. At the same time, no.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Um, I’m sorry but I heard that Eugenio Velez is a cornerstone of the team and a future star.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
VROOOOOM!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
More hits than strikeouts nerds
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
NO, 76 HITS 55 STRIKEOUTS
DON’T YOU FEEL STUPID
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Prediction:
Velez is going to have 2 hits in all of srping training and will start the year in Fresno
Please please please please please.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Fred Lewis who?
"The big thing people say to me is, 'Why don't you ever smile?' Well, I'm too interested in trying to beat somebody right now to smile." Will Clark
"I'm close to six feet, I like to think." The Freak.
I believe the ??? stands for “bunts”.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, its the name of our catcher next year. Bochy has yet to decide if its going to be Chris Coste, Steve Holm, Eli Whiteside or Crash Davis. We will know shortly
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Steve Wholm?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice !
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
Not true for the casual fan. Velez has great entertainment value based on his looks alone. I’ve seen him referred to as a Black Abe Lincoln, Count Chocula, Somalian Pirate and others that I cannot so easily recall.
Besides, how many MLB rosters have guys that actually take a step backwards before running to first?
The sixth tool in player evaluation. “Runs backwards before running forward…but pretty fast while doing so.”
by E Ticket on Oct 15, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
I will admit that Speedy McFuckup is a great nickname.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
Yeah, but you really can’t beat Baron Pickoff Von Ironglove
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
He kind of reminds me of Andre Rogers, the old Giants ss from the late 50s. A very nice athletic kind of guy who could hit somewhat sometimes, but a guy to whom baseball seemed about as fluent and natural an endeavor as a troll fucking a boulder
by E Ticket on Oct 15, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Brilliant
a guy to whom baseball seemed about as fluent and natural an endeavor as a troll fucking a boulder
If not for the no swearing policy at Niners Nation, this would totally be my new signature.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
fuck niners nation
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 15, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
(joking, i love it there. sorta)
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 15, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
ou don’t find it completely insufferable?
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
(I kinda do)
pretty much go there for the GDTs because everyone yells at me for talking about niner games here, and there’s some McCers over there
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 16, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
fuck *nation. It’s a lazy and overused moniker.
BTW, anyone know who was 1st to use it (sports-wise)?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
RED SOX OF COURSE!
/giving generic ESPN answer
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I obviously had forgot about you and your username. We cool?
/avoids fight at or near ballpark
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
For some reason this had me laughing uncontrollably
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
you’re not allowed to swear? Whoops! Now that dude getting on me for saying ‘HOLY MOTHER FUCKING SHIRT’ makes sense.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
It’s funny, you’re not allowed to swear there, but the ratio of retarded douchebag to normal person is unbelievably high. Conclusion, swearing leads to better communities.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
i totally fucking agree with this shit
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
That’s part of the reason that not swearing is so important over there.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
no swearing in non game day threads
and the community there is 1/10000000000000000th as good as it is here. I think it’s more to do with football people and baseball people more than swearing. But IDK. This place is unlike any other community I’ve seen, so there ya go
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
I seem to remember you having my back in that thread.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Football does not encourage intelligent discussion. It’s almost total resistance to any kind of useful statistical measures is a good indicator of that. Things are getting a little bit better though.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That said, NinersNation often surpasses my expectation for intelligent discussion, and the work that Fooch does to include STATS as an accepted and acceptable part of the site is admirable.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I always assumed that the blog authors’ style/personality would dictate what type of community would form, but NN dissuaded me of that notion. Fooch is a calm, intelligent, and well reasoned person, but so many people there are illiterate fucksticks.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
Word. Fooch is awesome. Too many of the people on there though… Not so much.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I think the community will even out over time. NinersNation right now is kind of in that “15 FanPosts a Day” phase that we had, what, a year or two ago. As (IF) people there become more comfortable with their status in a community of posters, they’ll probably put more effort into trying to uphold the quality of that community.
At least, that’s my hope. We didn’t have the benefit over there of the slow-burn growth that McCC had at the beginning. But I think Fooch does a good enough job and is bringing in good enough people to help him with content and moderation that it will eventually pay off.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally
I think stuff like FO is bullshit. I have no problem with looking at the game a new way, but I don’t buy that they’ve figured that new way out yet. They’ve done some good stuff, but a lot of what I read doesn’t seem very reliable.
i think it’s mostly the nature of the game- it’s pretty hard to tabulate a sport that has 22 moving parts on every play
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 16, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Bullshit how? I agree that FO has its limitations and does some things that I don’t really agree with, but I honestly don’t see how it’s not the most reliable statistical hub for the NFL.
It’s the best in a substandard group, yeah, but that’s not the point. Give me something better and I’ll start paying attention to that.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 16, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t have the stats like FO does, but it’s got much better analysis of the game and FO’s stats are really arbitrary anyways. They also have apparently zero predictive value.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
they might have zero predictive value
but if they do, so do all NFL stats. I think the first step is to establish “value” stats before you even worry about prediction.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
I don’t know why BL doesn’t like it, but the biggest question I’ve had was someone saying that from 6 yards out of the end zone, a team is expected to score a touchdown. I’ve seen enough Niners games in recent years to find that a questionable statment, and I understand that’s somehow taken from DVOA. Too many of the things I’ve seen people say regarding DVOA make me furl my brow.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
it's not rocket surgery
take all NFL plays since 1998 or so (when they started producing play-by-play logs).
Count the number of times a team was on it’s opponent’s 6 yard line.
Count the number of touchdowns they score.
Divide the 2nd by the first and you will get the the % of time a team is expected to score a touchdown from the 6.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Also, he’s entertainingly unpredictable.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Frandsen's impact, finally felt!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I don’t understand this team and I don’t want to even try.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 15, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions
because the giants actually are not aware of all these things
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Because they are making you realize that Brian Sabean’s brilliance in roster construction is so immense that you will never be able to surpass it as long as you live. You may spend your time learning about baseball, and you may spend your time trying to grow as an observer and fan, but you will never be able to match Brian Sabean. If baseball is the one thing that you truly love, you’ll never be truly great in any sense at it. There is nothing more that you can do here to be great, and there is no knowledge or skill you can acquire that will make this better. The baseball world has passed you by, and you know it. It’s a crushing symbol that you’re not young anymore and that you may have wasted your life pursuing something you will never have, because Brian Sabean has it already and will never give it up.
That is why these letters are depressing you.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 15, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I COULD TO DO BETTER!
I would sign Adam Everett, Dye, Blalock, Alex Cora and Craig Counsell.
Suck it, I suck at GMing NERDZ!
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to think of Bork as like the character in Memento with the following tattoos:
4. Benji Molina C
E. Velez once went 17 for 45 in a 10 game span
Kevin Frandsen does not respect you
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Oct 15, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't believe his lies
I FEEL SO COOL!!! I get these references now!!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
He’s really not that good against RHP either.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 15, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions
Mr. Sabean
basically don’t start velez, winn, lewis, schierholtz, frandsen, renteria, rowand, garko, ishikawa, whiteside, bowker, burriss, or anyone from the minors not named after a flower. Can’t you just provide an entirely new outfield, a new first baseman, resign uribe and let buster get a gazillion ab’s.
As soon as Charlie Daisy, Randall P. Buttercup, Marvin J. Petunia, and Harold Chrysanthemum reach the majors, we’re going to be a badass team!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Harold Chrysanthemum
On-base MACHINE!!!
Anagram of "suck it Russell Martin" = TRUER SKILL: SCUM STAIN
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 15, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting
You hate cheap, home-grown players (Lewis, Bowker, etc.) AND expensive free agent signings (Winn, Rowand).
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Pretty insightful article from Baggs re: Carney
"At some point, guys have to take responsibility for not doing that. That’s one thing I stressed to the guys – Step up and be responsible for yourself. Guys at the big league level, by the time they get there, should know how to do that stuff – move runners, get a guy home from third with less than two outs. If guys are learning that at the big league level, it’s too late. A major league player should not be as poor at it as we were in my two years.
This pretty much sums up this organization and makes me incredibly sad at the same time.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 15, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions
Having known Carney, he is a great guy and would make a good manager or minor-league hitting instructor. His knowledge of hitting is just incredible. Plus, he has an awesome ’stache and is legitimately hilarious.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Carny Lansford would make a good manager
As soon as he learns how NOT speak his mind, NOT give honest answers, NOT say that players are responsible for their failures, and NOT preach a good approach at the plate he’ll get hits chance
by NateEveryday on Oct 15, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I genuinely feel bad for Carney. I always thought his philosophy was the right one, but he had nothing to work with.
The greatest architect in the world can’t build the Sistine Chapel with a heaping pile of shit.
Anagram of "suck it Russell Martin" = TRUER SKILL: SCUM STAIN
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 15, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
They could build a Sistine Pile of Shit.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
cant. stop. laughing
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
This is exactly what is wrong with the Giants organization. This should be taught and drummed into players from their earliest stage of development and all throguhout the organization. The mandate has got to come from the top. This is basic for developing hitters.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
Please stop with these
Brian Sabean is akin to a treatable form of cancer... just get rid of it before it kills you
Velez shouldn’t even be on a Major League Roster. Forget his hitting, he is one of the worst fielders I’ve ever seen. Plus he doesn’t have a natural position.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
twss
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Velez E, SIRM
That would look kinda cool in a box score.
Anagram of "suck it Russell Martin" = TRUER SKILL: SCUM STAIN
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 15, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
FiRM?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
this was a bit of a strech for Velez
because usually he has his head up his own ass.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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PARPG- Indy post-apocalyptic roleplaying game currently in early planning stages.
Velez is Fred Lewis 2.0 without the walks
It’s amazing how bad Sabean is at learning from his mistakes.
Last year at this time Sabean was convinced that a 27 year old outfielder who was always too old for his league in the minors, always bad defensively, always struck out too much, and, although fast, never learned how to use it should take over the easiest position in baseball to find an offensive improvement
by NateEveryday on Oct 15, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You underrate Lewis, but yeah, this is exactly right, and Eugenio has an excellent chance to become next year’s official scapegoat as Fred was this year.
I didn't mean to come off like I hate Lewis
in fact I bet he would have had a much better year if they just made Lewis the lead-off hitter this year instead of trying their genius plan of making him more aggresive and thinking that he’s a power hitter,
Why they thought a guy who never hit more then 12 homers in the minors, and was always old for the league he was playing in was gonna be a power hitter is beyond me.
by NateEveryday on Oct 15, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe they evaluate players like my dad does:
he always tells me that fred “just LOOKS like he should be good”
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
well, he IS black.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Plan for success
1. Fire Carney Lansford
2. ???
3. Profit
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
4. Put on the homer sign
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Not sure I agree
Ricky Henderson he is not, but I love watching Velez play. And he seems to do pretty well in the clutch…well, not all the time, but there’s spark to this kid. I’ll never forget Velez landing on his hip at second, and with just one out needed to win (Wilson blew it), he refused to leave the game. I also no longer believe in Schierholtz, mostly because I was at game 3 when he struck out in the 9th with the tying run on 3rd against the Rockies.
Here’s on pennant winning 2010 line-up
LF Velez
2B Sanchez
3B Sandoval
RF Jason Bay
1B Nick Johnson
C Buster Posey
CF Aaron Rowand
SS Juan Uribe
It’s simple!
LF – Andres Torres/Eugenio Velez
2B – Freddy Sanchez
1B – Pablo Sandoval
RF – Jermaine Dye
C – Bengie Molina
3B – Juan Uribe
CF – Aaron Rowand
SS – Edgar Renteria
Bench – Matt Downs, Eli Whiteside, Fred Lewis, Nate Schierholtz, Ryan Garko
SP – Lincecum, Cain, Zito, Sanchez, Penny
RP – Wilson, Romo, Affeldt, Runzler, Medders, Valdez
by Grant Brisbee on Oct 15, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
BAN YOURSELF
Anagram of "suck it Russell Martin" = TRUER SKILL: SCUM STAIN
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 15, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Um, you have Bengie one spot to low
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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He has Bengie five spots too high. Wait for it to sink in.
My adopted son Matt Downs . Ranked as the 24th best prospect in the Giants farm system by Baseball America !!
Wow that lineup just screams Bochy
is it too early to start complaining that the guys on the bench are better then the ones starting.
by NateEveryday on Oct 15, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah
No way does Lewis come back. And Bochy would way rather have Ishikawa’s defense than Garko’s hitting.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
yeah, after lewis’ outburst, he’s got as much chance as LOLfrandsen
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 15, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
ADVENTURES IN RIGHT FIELD
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 15, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This is just mean
All too accurate, however. What’s going to be interesting to hear next year at this time is what Sabean and Neukom have to say about their 82-80 team. How will they explain why they were once again unable to field a team that could score 700 runs.
I think it is much more likely we will see...
This in LF… He fits the mold: over 40 (check), can’t play defense (check), PED (check)…
Disqualified
He likes to walk too much
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
ffffffffffffffffffff
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Clutch (ignoring for now whether or not he has it), does not take him from a shitty player to a good player. It takes him from shitty to less shitty, which doesn’t really matter because you still have to explain the skid marks.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
So, you believe in Eugenio because he had a gritty play where he insisted on playing hurt, and you gave up on Schierholtz based on one at bat.
Hey, Brian. Nice to meet you.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Also of note
Playing hurt is usually dumb. It hurts the team in the short term because you’re less effective, and it hurts it in the long term because you’re at a higher risk for a worse injury. So much for being a team player; it turns out you’re just a selfish jackass with hyperactive desire to be tough.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
So really bengie would be..
An awesome great catcher that is a team player and a great gamer who deserves a 10 year contract for 100 million. Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BORAT STYLE.
F U Nerd
All professional athletes play hurt. That’s a Goddamn fact of pro sports.
It’s up to the management to decide who plays and who does not and they may do so for whichever reasons they feel like.
F U Nerd
Is this really necessary? Can’t you make a point without insulting the person who you are replying to?
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 17, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah. That’s just being childish.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 17, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That's truly BASEBALL, Bitches!
Grown men paid to play a game for children.
As you have been hoisted upon your own petard, please enjoy the itchy splinters.
Stay Classy
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 19, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
omg
Jason Bay in AT&T Park right field
omg
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
Uh, yeah
I let that go, but obviously the speedy platoon guys Velrres would have to man RF in that scenario. But even when Torres was in there that would be at best an average defensive OF, and when Velez was out there… oy. Well, it would have comedy potential at least.
Lulz. No really, Eugenio Velez is not an adequate ML outfielder (check the stats) and never will be. Plus, next year will be his age 28 season. THIS is his prime and his prime is not good.
Joe Martinez: You are cool.
When it's all said and done, America will be remembered for three things: The Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Paul O'Neill, anyone?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/o’neipa01.shtml
As you can see, the classic Paul O’Neill did not emerge until he was 30 years old. During his Reds years, he was an Aaron Rowandish sort of player (albeit one who took BBs) and his minor league stats were hardly breathtaking.
O’Neill hit well from the second he made the majors.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
His overall line was above average for the late 80’s/early 90’s.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
Not really.
There was constant caterwauling from 1988 on about how O’Neill should be traded to make room first for Hal Morris (an OF prospect at the time), then later Reggie Sanders as O’Neill’s BA did a slow fade from a .270 to a .240 over that span.
Velez leading off? That is simple.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions
How to make a SUCK IT MARTINI
drink it with a straw, then punch the douche at the bar next to you
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I wondered why nobody was talking in the Posey letter thread anymore.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Grant is screwing all of us up today.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 15, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s trying to disorient us so we can’t go off-topic as often.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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You know, Grant, you really need to get off your high horse
Two reasons:
1) Brian Sabean gets smarter the longer he does this. In fact, you might even call him Brain Sabean (I almost typoed that, in fact).
2) You don’t work for a baseball team, which means you don’t know anything about baseball.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Brian has recently figured out that the PCL inflates hitting statistics
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
His next discovery
The Shreveport Captains aren’t our AA affiliate anymore.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
You forgot to capitalize the first letter of each word in your subject line.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
Also, Grant has never played baseball professionally.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 15, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, Grant: Did you talk to Bochy about this before writing it? How could you write something like this without talking to him first.
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
Dear Grant,
You are a nerd who knows absolutely nothing about baseball. You should have consulted with The Great Bruce Bochy before typing this.
Sincerely, Giants Brass
P.S. Would you like to see my savvy veterans?
Sporcle quiz I found that y'all should take
Name every Giants’ opening day starting player, 1990-2009.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Uh, I forgot the link, duh
http://www.sporcle.com/games/yankeessuck8991/SFGiants_Opening_Day
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
I didn't know Manwaring had a brother named Kirk
I really wish these quizzes weren’t timed.
Anagram of "suck it Russell Martin" = TRUER SKILL: SCUM STAIN
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 15, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh, I missed that
He originally had Brett Butler as Bill Butler, too.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
I got like 165. But somehow I forgot Marquis Grissom and Willie McGee.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Not as bad as me....
……I forgot about Shinjo.
/I should be banned.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
Did we all remember Rick Wilkins?
I did.
Anagram of "suck it Russell Martin" = TRUER SKILL: SCUM STAIN
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 15, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I do
We got him for Kirt Manwaring in mid-1996. He was really good the rest of the year. Then he was horrific in early 1997, and then we released him.
I’m hopeless.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
Type in “notbarrybonds”.
Anagram of "suck it Russell Martin" = TRUER SKILL: SCUM STAIN
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Oct 15, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
i got em all!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 16, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
137
Woo 86th percentile!
Bleeding orange and black since 1987
by TehGreekStallion on Oct 15, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I got 124
I couldn’t for the life of me remember who was the 1B in 2007. When i found out, I almost fell out of my chair because (a) I had forgotten, and (b) the fact that he was actually a starter.
And for some reason I forgot Not-Notgardo Alfonso.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 15, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I failed. I forgot Winn and Renteria.
Must have been suppressed memory.
Not only is this lineup a real possibility
but is also incredibly right handed. From the 4th spot down is all right handed.
The only lefty’s are switch hitters.
I know AT&T can be rough on left handed power hitters, but the Giants might want to be smart and get 1 or 2 lefthanded guys for their lineup.
I know it seems like a signature Sabean signing, but Carlos Delgado seems like a good fit this year. He probably wouldn’t stay healthy, and he sucks defensively, but he can hit. Something I seriously doubt about Uribe. Since Uribe of all people is going to block the Giants from looking to improve first or third base.
Plus Jeremy Hermida could be had very easily from the Marlins. He’s patient, solid defensively, got some pop and is only 25. Do ya think Sabean is smart enough to get him.
I just noticed the banner image change...
how long have we been the Carlton Chronicles?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
What change?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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Watching the Giants offense these past few years has seriously diminished my expectations for a major league hitter. My first response, upon seeing that Velez had 31 RBI in the second half, was “wow, he’s an RBI machine!”
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
Remember when Garko took a pitch and we all wet ourselves? He’s not even that disciplined of a hitter, but compared to the idiots on our team he was Barry Bonds.
Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.
Wow
0-26 when put in as a sub. Now that’s some epically terrible situational hitting.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
you know who else is a bad clutch hitter?
Queue bondslegend:
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
RAGE
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 16, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
If they plan on having Velez start next year then I’d hope they would work out at one of the Giants training facilities all off season. I want him to work on: stealing bags, not getting picked off, learning how to play a ball off the wall, knowing which bag to throw to in the infield, spraying the ball to all fields, no more HR hacks, work deep into counts, bunt off a tee.
Basically be a totally different player.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 15, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions
He will never be a great base stealer – he has a high top end but poor acceleration off the line.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Velez, your 2010 starting left fielder...
who doesn’t do anything particularly well, but gets the starting job b/c he had one hot streak.
by speedyt72000 on Oct 15, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Why should he learn how to bunt? He can’t bunt for a hit; it takes him too long to get out of the box. People have this idea that Velez is fast, and I guess he is, in the sense that I bet he’s really fast in, say, the 100 meter dash. But baserunning involves much shorter distances than that, and Eugenio takes for-e-ver to get going. He’s not fast when it comes to baseball, and I’m rather skeptical that he ever will be. If he’s 27 and hasn’t improved his technique to this point, why should we expect it to happen now?
The “Bunt off a tee” saying is obviously sarcastic. How does one bunt off a tee? You don’t. My whole point is that he seems to be really raw and needs to become better at the basics. You know, the stuff a player would learn when they are about 11-15 years old.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 16, 2009 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Fred Lewis Second Half:
.277 / .388 / .398
Giants lead off hitters:
.258 / .312 / .404
Blegh.
Brian Sabean figures that if he buys enough bottles, one of them is bound to have lightning in it.
The Head of Sabean-metrics(tm) Research says ...
“76 points of OBP for 6 points of SLG and increase of 25 points of ISO? I’ll make that trade everytime!!!”
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 17, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
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