The Giants and Carney Lansford
by Grant on Oct 14, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
556 comments
I don’t want to alarm you, but I’m about to take a bold position. I’m about to write something that challenges everything you think you know about the San Francisco Giants.
Ladies and gentlemen, what I am about to suggest will shake the very foundations of biology and taxonomy as we know them.
The Giants did not have a very good offense this season. They did not have a very good offense last season. They have not had a good offense in many moons.
Reptiles, as we know, are cold-blooded creatures. Some of them have scales; others have forked tongues.
I propose that the San Francisco Giants get a new hitting coach.
I propose that the common cow, Bos primigenius, is not a reptile at all. In fact, I submit that the common cow is actually…a mammal!
There are three possible scenarios with Carney Lansford, the current hitting coach.
- He doesn’t know how to make bad hitters into good hitters, where another coach might.
- He does know how to help the Giants’ offense, but he is unable to communicate his point effectively, or he is not listened to.
- Hitting coaches, for the most part, can’t make vinegar into wine. They can’t turn Billy Ripken into Cal Ripken with a few suggestions, a new grip, or after watching several hundred hours of video.
My theory is based on the following:1. Cows give birth to live young. They are not hatched from eggs. I have detailed documentation on this fact if you would like to discuss this further after the lecture.
2. Cows have hair. Mammals have hair. Reptiles do not have hair. I challenge the old guard, cows-as-reptile orthodoxy to explain that one!
3. Udders! Udders, people! Think about the ramifications! They produce milk, which is certainly something heretofore that reptiles have not been able to do.
Therefore, there is no risk in trying a new hitting coach. Heck, even Lansford doesn’t expect to be back.
I’m pretty sure that cows aren’t reptiles, but please keep your dissent until the question-and-answer period at the end of the lecture
"We wanted him to be somewhat more patient at the plate, and somewhat less aggressive on balls out of the zone, and he’s done a great job." – Hensley Meulens, Fresno Grizzlies hitting coach,on John Bowker
Bowker in 2007: 41 walks in 587 plate appearances. Bowker in 2008: 26 walks in 452 plate appearances. Bowker after working with Meulens in 2009: 78 walks in 523 plate appearances. Sold. Here’s a three-year deal, Hensley.
I don’t have any other ideas or suggestions for the spot, so I’ll be thrilled with Meulens. Can’t hurt. Heck, that’s the first time I’ve ever seen a Giants farmhand significantly improve his plate discipline.
Comment starter: Vigorous refutation of my shocking claim that the Giants should hire a new hitting coach. Also, If you have any other ideas as to who should fill the slot, that would do nicely too.
I leave with this rhetorical question, to be used as fodder for a post-lecture discussion: Would steak be as delicious if it came from a reptile? I submit that it would not. Thank you, and good night.
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I don’t think Carney is to blame for the hitting woes but I’d like to see them give Meulens a chance anyway.
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by jponry on Oct 14, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he is either. Remember when we had that awful pitching staff, and everyone was screaming about how Righetti was the worst pitching coach ever and he should totally be fired? And now we’ve got a great pitching staff and everyone is screaming about how Righetti is the greatest pitching coach ever? I think this is working along those lines.
by quincy0191 on Oct 14, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was always pretty okay with Righetti.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never liked him very much (I think our current success has got very little to do with him) I just think that coaches typically have very little impact, and replacing Lansford is a symbolic move more than anything. I’m not saying don’t do it (like I said, I don’t think it’ll matter), but this seems to suspiciously emulate that situation. Given how Righetti is now revered by the casual fan for his supposed success, I think Lansford’s just a scapegoat for the failure of Sabes and Bork.
by quincy0191 on Oct 14, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ME TOO!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But yours is better than his.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 14, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DONT CHANGE WHAT WORKED LOL
BORK BORK BORK
Why do San Francisco teams insist on having terrible offenses? Frank Gore and Pablo Sandoval can't do it all.
by GiantPain on Oct 14, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I want him back because I’m not sure I ever made a Carney Wilson reference at his expense, and I’d like to have another chance to do that.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, think how awesome it would be to have a coach nicknamed Bam Bam.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 14, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now's as good a time as any
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 14, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it really is
The trick is that it’s always now.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 14, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is tricky. I don’t trust it.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Meulens would serve best wherever the young players are getting a lot of starts to practice what he’s teaching them. If it’s in San Francisco, then “Yay!”. If it’s in Fresno, let him stay there. He can’t fix our veterans.
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by ResDog on Oct 14, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
seconded
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't veterans be fixed?
And no neutering jokes , please. This is one of those mysteries we at Frankenstudios puzzle over , along with “won’t hit well because of his his position” and “the catcher’s bad pitchcalling”.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 14, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the old saying “A leopard can’t change it’s spots”?
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch. I see therm all.
damn proofreader failYOU’RE FIRED
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll just stop. Sheesh.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 14, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re just speaking my “ese” is all!
/ tosses in a than/then
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am big believer in motivation or incentive.
If a person’s playing time is not at stake most people will not feel inclined to try and correct a bad habit ( if they even know it is a bad habit instead of a higher up just ragging on them). A rookie you can ship back to Fresno, or lower, that does keeps doing the wrong thing a veteran you can only reduce their playing time or hope is released. This current Manger & Gm refuses to use the DL much less have the “intestinal fortitude” (aka grit ,sand, or balls) those 2 things so there is not much of a chance a mostly healthy veteran will get "fixed".
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure that cows are plants.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 14, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so is McDonald's
delicious beef fat fried fries FTW
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 14, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m okay with giving someone else a shot as long as that someone else isn’t Shawon.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 14, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets have a mailman be our coach
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cliff Claven?
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would steak be as delicious if it came from a reptile?
I actually grew up with someone who liked eating Snake more than steak.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 14, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sneak really is the better of the three.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was attacked by a sneak once. Never saw it coming.
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by Goofus on Oct 14, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm… why isn’t steak pronounced “Steek”?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why isn’t it spelled “Stake?” Then it would have Vampire killing properties. You could also use red meat to pitch a tent.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 14, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could pitch a tent in my sleep. Like, three or four times a night.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank god for red meat, and reptiles for that matter.
by Wonderful Terrific Monds on Oct 14, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a curious reply to Howie’s pitch-a-tent post.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m like a magnet for curious replies in this thread.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potato salad!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 14, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s our new hitting coach!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said curious replies, not gross replies. Blech.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curious?
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You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is this carlton chronicles crap. I don’t get it
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 6:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
from when the phillies were playing the dodgers last year in the playoffs. mcc became carlton chronicles to support the non-dodgers
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 15, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His nickname was “Bam Bam.” That’s good enough for me. Sign him up now!
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 14, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d love if Bam Bam Willis was our hitting coach.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’d advise tackling every fastball thrown. I don’t think that would win us a lot of games.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 14, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re more likely to get a hit with your body than a bat, and since the Giants are gonna swing at this next pitch anyway…
by quincy0191 on Oct 14, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE WILL BEAT YOU< BUT HES GONNA CRY DOIN IT
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to hiring that cow as our new hitting instructor.
“So cow… I can’t seem to hit offspeed stuff. Any suggestions?”
“Moooooooooo.”
“I never thought of it THAT way! Thanks!”
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 14, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Right now Carney is on a beach somewhere in slacks and a sports coat.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Shawon Dunston is there with some acid wash blue jeans, a white blouse and a vest
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 14, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We used to call him ’Won ’Ton. \lonely tear
by sanfranfreakshow on Oct 14, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone but Shawon.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any way in hell
that if Carney is fired Dunston doesn’t get the job? I mean, seriously? Like I’m actually asking that, because there is no way he doesn’t get the job
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by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s what scares me about the Giants firing Carney is that they wouldn’t look for a real replacement, they would just promote Shawon.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now Pablo, I’d like you to try and be a bit more agressive…
/Shawon
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the funny part
is that in the Grand Irony that is the San Francisco Giants, they would suddenly and for no reason improve their offense for 2010. Including increasing their walk rate. Dunston = Genius, and we are stuck with him for 10 more years.
In 2011 the new found patience evaporates.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 16, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someday somebody’s gonna make you want to turn around and say, “ball four.”
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
’til then, baby, are you gonna let them hold you down and make you cry?
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 17, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m all for getting a new hitting coach, just have a couple questions about Meulens…
How long was he coaching down in AAA?
Have there been other instances besides Bowker of guys having a better approach under Meulens?
And this one isn’t directly about Meulens, but like I doubt Carney would tell Bowker to change his approach after coming up to the big team…so is it just Bowker going back to old ways? Do players always need that constant reminding to take a fucking pitch?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What about this Carney?
(Ralph)
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
/golf clap
and that approach is better than some I’ve seen from Giants hitters this past season
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 14, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the count’s 3-0
But if you hold on for one more pitch you
Might draw a walk
Yeah I know there is pain
But you hold on for one more pitch and you
Might, you might get on base
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much of the Giants offense problems lie in the fact that guys like Bowker, Garko, Panda might feel like if they take a walk, they gotta be thinking, “Who the fuck is going to drive me in? I better get a dinger here”
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you got the meter wrong.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I could have gone another decade not hearing that song in my head.
by esseffgeez on Oct 14, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I’m not saying its right at all…I wish those guys would walk more. I just wonder why the hell they WONT walk
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, it worked for Schoolhouse Rock. If the offense walked around humming this tune, it couldn’t do much harm.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 14, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunston as the Giants hitting coach: Crash and Burn
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the look back at the end, like “How could that possibly have gone wrong?”
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by EliminateMe on Oct 14, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/faceplant
/facepalm
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
31 May 2007, 21:38 EST - the last time Matteh's career W-L wasn't below .500
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 14, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the mythbuster dude?
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Meulens...
…sounds like the vegan breakfast cereal of hitting.
‘Sides, that just makes for a vacancy at AAA when we have a bunch of flawed yet bitchin’ prospects a-playing. I don’t see how this choice should come from within the org, period.
by sanfranfreakshow on Oct 14, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
as opposed to meat breakfast cereal?
wha??
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 14, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm… Bacon O’s.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chocolate covered bacon bar
Tried one at LillieBelle Chocolates in Central Point, OR, a few days ago.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Oct 14, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND???
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As explained by a co-worker once...
Most Nestle/Kelloggs products have whey, which is a milk by-product, so i.e. not vegan. Muesli is vegan.
Meulens, I suspect…NOT vegan.
by esseffgeez on Oct 14, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A most proper break-down...
He’s definitely the weakest Bam-Bam. Eva. I know it’s not fair, but I just looked at his player stats…harrumph.
by sanfranfreakshow on Oct 14, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And all of the best position coaches were great players?
WTF
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Bochy sucked. QED.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not even
some, maybe, but certainly not “most.”
As the resident vegan of this community, I demand a retraction.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 14, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants’ plate discipiline was packaged in a facility with dairy and tree-nut products.
by sanfranfreakshow on Oct 14, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re just mad that you can’t eat your Steako Crisp any more.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Oct 14, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GAHHHHHH
/drowns sorrows in Bacos n’ soy milk
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 15, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let’s drive by meat’s house; does meat ever ask about me?
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there is a culture or peer pressure on the Giants that could cause young players to be less selective at the plate. Some of that could come from coaches like Shawon but I also imagine that the example set by all the veterans can really influence the young players: Bengie, Uribe, Rowand, Winn – all hackers. A coach can change a players approach at the Major league level but that would probably require a club wide culture-changing dedication to plate discipline and that’s not going to happen under Sabean.
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 14, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Boggles my mind how the Giants continue to hack while getting beat by teams that don’t hack
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny...
They went 88-74. Shouldn’t that mean other teams shoud emulate us? I bet the Pirates and Royals would love to be where we are right now.
Neukom: sign up Sabean for another two years!
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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Oct 14, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s tough to emulate “be very lucky,” though.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
It’s not a very reliable strategy.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 14, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, we finishes 12 games above .500, but the teams who were at another level (in the playoffs) aren’t hackers like us and take some walks
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should add that it was our pitching that got us to that record, not our hitting.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh wow, my bad on the math. was looking past that to my other points
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though technically
it isn’t “14” games, because if we’d lost 14 more games we wouldn’t be .500, we’d be “14” games UNDER .500.
Or something
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that’s only because the season is over, so you’d have to turn some of those wins into losses, which is kind of cheating. If this were midseason and we were 50-36 we’d still be 14 games over .500 and we could go on a 14 game losing streak that would put us at .500. So it is “14” games.
by quincy0191 on Oct 14, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sure that has nothiing to do with onced ina generation, or two, starting pitching and very solid defense. It all has to do with swinging at more pitches than they take. Which in turn means letting the pitcher dictate almost everything in a P.A.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should try to emulate the good parts of our team, not the bad parts.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Oct 14, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I’m sure the Pirates and Royals will emulate having a ridiculously great pitching staff and horrible hitting. They’ll go out of their way for every part of that.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet if they let Carney use a cattle prod, he’d get results.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Oct 14, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s a simple matter of voltage.
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Oct 14, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m shocked you would suggest that…watt’s wrong with you?
"We're in this thing!" My adopted Giant: "Raptor Jesus" Guzman, "Sweet Jesus" Guzman and Jesus H. Guzman.
by Goofus on Oct 14, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes you gotta hertz the ones you love.
by esseffgeez on Oct 14, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This tangent isn’t proving very conductive to answering Grant’s question, though.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’ve got to combat the resistance, too. People like what’s current.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 14, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's let Meulens run things Faraday.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zing
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Naw, but if his boss, Big Head, would back him up by once in while bench a slumping Vet thta is hacking Carney might surprise us all.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It all starts at the top. And look who is at the top for the Giants.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…Velez?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 14, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the only way it works is if he makes everyone more patient so Bochy has no choice but to play the patient hitters. I base this on the fact that the guy with the 2nd highest OBP didn’t start a game during the last month and the player you are talking about started even less although he dominated AAA and posted a crazy OBP down there.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 14, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“Batting 4th and catching, #1 BENNNGIE MOOOOOOLINAA!!!!!!!!!!”
and that’s April 2010.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/ bangs head on desk to numb the pain your post causes.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
That’s Brian Sabean’s way of getting good ideas.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 14, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Sir, what’s that gash on your forehead? Are you all right?”
“Brainstorming session. Don’t worry about it.”
by TheLetter2 on Oct 14, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barry Lamar Bonds - Home Run King/Hitting Consultant.
It cant hurt to have THE MAN tell you whats wrong with your hitting approach, what to look for, how to spot it etc…
by Squez on Oct 14, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Time for him to earn his consulting assistant to President whatever role he’s suppose to take on after he retires.
Neukom: sign up Sabean for another two years!
Adoptive parental unit of Ehire Adrianza.
Godfather of Travis Ishikawa.
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Oct 14, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
P'Shaw...
BLB’s already on record saying he doesn’t want to mess with non one’s paydaaay.
by sanfranfreakshow on Oct 14, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
great player =/= great coach. Guys like Bonds and Jerry Rice are so great naturally that it’s tough for them to teach that to others, since they’re starting on such a higher level.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, i kinda agree with this, just because you were a great player does not mean you’re a great coach, some of that is just them being great naturally
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think BLB was such a student of the game that he would be able to help people out. I don’t think BLB was 100% Naturally good I think he had and did work really hard at improving himself.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, the best example I can think of its Wayne Gretzky, arguably the greatest hockey player ever, was the crappiest coach I’ve ever seen in Phoenix, no semblance of a system, it seemed like he told them, “Go be like me” and when they weren’t his head blew up. That is entirely possible with Barry as a coach.
by tarlinian on Oct 14, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bingo
the best coaches were mediocre players, because they had to maximize their limited potential just to be on the field, so they’d know how to get the most possible out of others
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay for cows and improved plate discipline.
by DesertFox on Oct 14, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bengie Molina has mastered the art of combining the two.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait… I guess he doesn’t have that much discipline when it comes to food plates either. The logic behind my joke is faulty.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was about to correct your plate discipline comment with reference to Benjie, but you caught it yourself. He has no plate discipline when batting or eating!
by nataku on Oct 14, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the Molina’s have mastered the combination of the two.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So then, would you say… that they’ve mastered the combination plate?
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope we replace him with somebody whose last name is Phillips.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JR?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah, bitches!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 14, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Step 1: Don’t swing at pitches in the dirt.
Step 2: Don’t swing at pitches that almost hit you
Step 3: Don’t swing at pitches that DO hit you
Step 4: If a pitcher’s fastball is in the 83-86MPH range and his offspeed stuff is pedestrian at best, don’t get intimidated by them. I swear, those guys are most definitely beat-able.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 14, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please note the serious-business bangs on Carney Wilson of Wilson Phillips. Gamer! Problems solved.
by sanfranfreakshow on Oct 14, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you definitely succeeded in making those words bold.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tee hee, I meant to elucidate the magic of Carney-Phillips, Cause of & Solution to All Giants Woe
by sanfranfreakshow on Oct 14, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, like, people are going to say, you know, “What did he eat? Wilson Phillips?” She’s not fat anymore, but there’s three of them.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 14, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they’ve been hired as Pablo’s dieticians. Please, lord. Ooh, throw in Fergie, Kirstie Alley, Star Jones and Jazzercise memberships and they can do a whole infield fat-camp!
by sanfranfreakshow on Oct 14, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lawrence? That is if he can get out of jail.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stone?
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
by JRPhillips on Oct 14, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
STEVE!!!!!!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 14, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't Hurt
since Lansford either isn’t doing a good job or simply isn’t being listened to…though what would really make me happy is if Dunston was not asked back.
by Into the Void on Oct 14, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What was Dunston’s responsibility this season? I didnt hear much when he was hired on.
It seems like he was just there one day, and hung around till the season ended.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was the infield coach.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another suggestion of Giants pedigree
Another person I would suggest instead is someone with Giants history: Jack Clark. He took a lot of walks while being one of the most aggressive hitters of his era. If our hitters could tap just a part of his “Jack the Ripper” mojo, we could have runs galore.
The only caveat I would note is that he went from a very disciplined swinger at the start of his career to a free swinger by the end, though he at least increased his number of walks as well. Still, he was a run producer who also got on base a lot as well.
Neukom: sign up Sabean for another two years!
Adoptive parental unit of Ehire Adrianza.
Godfather of Travis Ishikawa.
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Oct 14, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What is Jack Clark up to these days?
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 14, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently he’s a college baseball manager.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo isn’t coming back, and is generally well-regarded. I mention it, knowing full well that nothing is going to happen with Lansford, and not knowing how much Lansford is to blame for our suckage.
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Oct 14, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Fanshots! However could I have missed you?
Billy Ripken is not a fuck face
by Karlifornia on Oct 14, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you win
If the powers that be are happy with the Brain and Bork Show, why would anything else change? I guess the question is whether the Doorknobic Duo threw Carney under the bus, or whether they claimed that this was just year one of the big offensive rebuild, and that another whole year of Carney will be much better…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 14, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've convinced me, Grant
I back Bowker for hitting coach.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 14, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How about Will Clark if he wants it?? (Note: i doubt he does due to a son with autism).
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Happy 20th Anniversary
(Check the timestamp.)
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, the Loma Prieta Earthquake?
If so, that was October 17th.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 14, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it was.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the plus side (?), it is the 20th anniversary of Game One of the World Series. Apparently, the National Anthem was performed by something called “The Wiffenpoofs.”
Also, I had this magazine when I was a kid – I wonder what happened to it:
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing to think about
Game one of the world series on October 14th. We haven’t even started either LCS, yet.
The baseball Satanist
by thehavenot on Oct 14, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, everything’s late this year because the WBC moved the schedule back. But yeah.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The world series is at least going into Nov this year (game 4 is Nov. 1st)
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 14, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derek Jeter
MR NOVEMBER
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 14, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The last Giants World Series title ended on October 2, 1954.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Whiffenpoofs are a male a capella choir from Yale University. In fact, they’re the oldest such group in the U.S., turning 100 this year. They were selected to perform at Game One as a tribute to Bart Giamatti, who died a month-and-a-half before the series commenced. He was the president of Yale from 1978 to ’86.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weren’t they the people involved in that controversial murder? beating? thing that took place in SF a few years back? or was that some other group?
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I’ve been able to find. Though they definitely killed at a concert in SF back in May.
/delightfully droll
by TheLetter2 on Oct 14, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was them
Yale nerd throwdown with the Riordan High homeboys
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 14, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was the incident I was thinking of.
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The incident happened not too far from where I live.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about that? I didnt remember that happening.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 15, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, its amazing how the WS just keeps getting pushed back
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
weather permitting
If the series (hopefully) ends up in NY and Phila, who knows how long it will take them to finish… maybe we’ll be able to watch the WS instead of the Cowboys on Thanksgiving…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 years ago today
That was memorable.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN200210140.shtml
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Renteria, Metheny, and Morris
for the Redbirds
by SnowLeopard on Oct 15, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That dude Metheny was dope.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eerilie similar
Matheny 2005 – 0.242 / 0.295 / 0.406
Bengie 2009 – 0.265 / 0.280 / 0.442
by SnowLeopard on Oct 15, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what, home runs and rbi don’t count anymore?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IT’S A DRUG PUN! PEOPLES ALWAYS TAKING ME SERIOUSLY AND I DON’T KNOW WHY!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Metheny will get you through times of no Money better
than Money will get you through times of no Metheny.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 15, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You
just work too speedily for us
by SnowLeopard on Oct 15, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SPEED
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
VVVRRROOOOOMMMMM!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
http://www.olliefu.com/img/giants_win.wmv
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hated how the put the press in the bleachers. I sat in the bleachers for the WS and it look empty.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
I saw recently that the official 2002 World Series DVD can be had used for $3 + s&h on Amazon. I’m actually considering it. For all the pain, there are some things I’d LIKE to relive.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, I’m crazy, right?
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could watch up to the 5th inning of game six and then break the dvds
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 14, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s one DVD, so I assume it must be highlights rather than the whole games.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the next time they show game 6 on MLB network or where-ever, we should have a game day thread, and all watch it together, maybe we could exorcise some demons… or at least stop cringing in fear anytime someone mentions the 2002.
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have the MLB Network, though. :(
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve watched game 6 on MLB up until it’s 5-0. I quit right there. If the Giants ever win the World Series, I will watch the entire game to the 6-5 loss.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recorded over all my VCR tapes but time has passed.
I’d like to rewatch some of the other games, where mo was still with us. I don’t have a television, where might I be able to go to get them?
I didn’t think MLB.com had postseason archives available in the package.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 14, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn’t somebody say something about itunes or or something?
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve thought about it too.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Lofton's NLCS winner
re-affirmed my faith in humanity. So yeah, there are some things to remember. But mostly it sucked.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
i still remember lying in bed and hearing my dad go “WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!” from downstairs after Santiago’s HR, then running downstairs and finishing the game. Fuck school.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL YOUNG
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Oct 15, 2009 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reading some of the reviews is painful.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ACCEPT IT, PEOPLE!! IT HAPPENED!!!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great, now I need to find someone to turn my monitor into a wrist watch because this monitor is obviously ruined.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with Natto. I’m tired of the denials now even in jest.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But denial is jest a river in Egypt.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’m going to pull a Houston (the singer)
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 14, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TOM FUCKING GOODWIN!!!!!!!!!!!
www.leaguelineup.com/lbucks24
by NuschlerFace on Oct 14, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude you are fuckin banned
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was too busy going to the niners game that sunday instead of watching that shit, thank god the niners won by 30 or something
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still remember watching
I was playing “agressive inline” at the same time. So random. I watched the whole post-game too. God I was pissed.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I was only 14!
If only I had McC to swear on :’(
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, dude, i’m pretty sure you’d be banned with the amount of swearing going on… in fact, that’s how i felt during the niners giants game 2002 playoffs, i was playing a video game with the door closed when they were down… then i switched to the game, they were coming back, so i kept playing and sure enough i heard a bunch of people screaming outside, and i turned it back and Ty Streets scored
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such a great game
I turned the TV off after 38-14, but had Starkey on. I turned the TV on after Garcia ran it in, and just couldn’t believe it
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bengie’s got bungie
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was 7 years and a hundred pounds ago
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 15, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This whole 2002 got canceled meme is getting out of hand.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially since it’s been SIX years without a playoff appearance. With the way the Giants run that team, we will HOPE that we could blow another World Series soon.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 15, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing missing in this picture is a Rally Monkey and our souls.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: World Cup
Is there really no SBN World Cup blog? Or am I just not looking in the right place. I see 2 blogs, neither of them with anything going on at the moment.
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Global Futbol is the closest I have found. It deals more with the Premier League but there is some International stuff on there too. It isn’t very active though.
I want me some Buster
by gbears16 on Oct 14, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm
Oh well, not like the US v. CR game is all that right now… (on ESPN btw)
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SBN is lacking in the soccer blogz. But it probably just has to do with demand.
Even so – I WANT MY EARTHQUAKES BLOG DARNIT
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has to make quality posts SOMEWHERE, doesn’t he?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
by baetown415 on Oct 14, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want an Earthquakes blog that people might read, darnit!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as it’s in blog form.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the only soccer type blog I’d even be tempted to participate in would be a world cup specific one.
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could call it WalrusMan!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not many people around nowadays will get this.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 15, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d do it. But it’d have to be European/ World soccer… I know next to nothing about MLS
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 2:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That probably gives you better than replacement level knowledge of MLS.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT
Anyone try and go across the Bay Bridge during the afternoon?? It looked like a parking lot after that truck flipped on it’s side.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be one hell of a commute for me… south sacramento to east sacramento via the bay bridge…
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A KRON 4 reporter said it took about an hour and half to go 5 car lengths.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that like “Pull my finger”?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if you do it in a house.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
still waiting for my wife
she called at 4:30 from Emeryville…
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 14, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SFGate has the down low on the sitch-eeyayshun. Looks like a mess.
We haven’t been over the bridge since it was redone, is it really that bad? Or are people just that stupid?
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The second one, definitely. The first one, maybe.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't driven it yet
but I once was on a reticulated AC Transit bus that almost crashed going the other direction; there’s a little jog in the road when the lower deck turns out at the end of the bridge. This driver took it a little too fast every day, to the point I finally started sitting in the front of the bus instead. Finally one day we came off the ramp and the back half of the bus started whipping back and forth and the bus swerved back and forth across the lanes until he got it stopped somehow, and without getting us all killed.
Extrapolating from that, I can’t imagine… it looks like a pretty severe turn to make. I love Caltrans… can they not make the turn more gradual? Isn’t this just the “temporary” trestle that will let them build the “permanent” one next to it?
A mess. I thought the 101 split was dangerous when they had that all divided up, but this makes it look like perfect engineering.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 14, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also unsafe
The Oakland span has needed to be replaced since 1989, but won’t be done until 2013. LOL Bay Area.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The latter
It’s a sharp curve for a bridge, but it’s very well marked and only a moron would try to take it at 55mph in a big rig.
No, really, I have updated my blog this year: http://skaldheim.livejournal.com/tag/baseball
by Skaldheim on Oct 14, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
update
she made it to the metering lights.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 14, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never understood why the Bay Area has no car ferries.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
" It doesn’t turn a profit enough!!!" *
* And if did the anti crowd would “adjest” the booksso it doesn’t.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also let's remember
that right after the season ended Bochy himself said he didn’t think the Giants hitters were being aggressive enough. What hitting coach will be able to change that?
by Into the Void on Oct 14, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, new hitting coach must be proficient and guiding players on how to bunt aggressively. A swing is all well and good, but unless he can bunt with that swing, then he’s no good to Bochy.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are so right
especially if the Giants sign Jason Bay… he’s a crappy bunter
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, it’s cool to be aggressive, but at the same time, the hitters have to understand when it’s necessary to play smart baseball, and that means be able to bunt
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:(, all i’m saying is, can you be too conservative? can you be too aggressive?
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and yes?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ultimately, it would be best if we could get these guys to bunt proficiently whether or not they’re even attempting to make contact with the ball. I’d rather somebody lay down a successful bunt on a pitch he’s not trying to do anything with than watch that pitch sail past him for what might be a strike or, worse, swing through it altogether.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only young hitter can bunt. Not sucky, slow footed veterans.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez anybody watching the Pittsburgh Carolina hockey game?
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol silence
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a crazy game, I only caught the last 15-20 minutes of it (10 minutes of the 3rd, OT & SO)
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants did not have a very good offense this season. They did not have a very good offense last season. They have not had a good offense in many moons.
My world has been turned upside down.
by deuce deuce on Oct 14, 2009 6:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s kind of like saying bad offense is bad.
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been advocating a change in hitting coach for at least 2 months.
I had Suggested Bonds if he would do it, as he is one of the most knowledgeable hitters to have ever walked the planet, HM would be ok. We saw some serious improvement in Velez and Bowker (in triple A for Bowker) As Lanceford has always been a giants fan, and I think probably a knowledgeable guy, the giants should offer him a different post in the system.
by bradleybear on Oct 14, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Special Assistant in Charge of Hitting”
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assistant General Manager.
Assistant to the General Manager.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something like that might interest him but I doubt being Chief Fall Guy for Idiot Manager … eerrmm I mean Hitting Coach would. The first might be position to create some real change. The second is just allowing yourself to be the next sacrificial lamb on the block.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like a cake.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upside down!
Bouncing off the ceiling!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suck it Mexico!
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Breaking news
From Henry Schulman:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?blogid=22&entry_id=49609
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bruce Bochy didn’t?
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see the conversation now:
bork bork bad offense bork need scapegoat bork bork bork you’re fired bork.
by deuce deuce on Oct 14, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goat: Scaped
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 14, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don’t replace him with Dunston. Please don’t replace him with Dunston. Please don’t replace him with Dunston. Please don’t replace him with Dunston. Please don’t replace him with Dunston. Please don’t replace him with Dunston. Please don’t replace him with Dunston. Please don’t replace him with Dunston….
by Merope on Oct 14, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Dunston
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?entry_id=49609&tsp=1
Manager Bruce Bochy phoned Carney Lansford to tell him he has been relieved as Giants hitting coach, the team announced this evening. No replacement has been named. The rest of Bochy’s staff is expected to be retained. The firing is no surprise after the Giants struggled offensively for the second consecutive season.
Update: Bruce Bochy and the Giant’s will name Shawon Dunston the new hitting coach tomorrow. He hit .269 in parts of 17 seasons.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 14, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
WHAT THEFUCK? WHY DIDN’T I SCROLL OVER LINK FIRST?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a tinyurl
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude's a genius
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carney Lansford relieved to be out as Giants’ hitting coach.
And the Dunston move has definitely ruined the rest of this year for me.
by Every6thDay on Oct 15, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This needs more recs!
well played.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One candidate to replace him is Hensley Meulens, the Giants’ Triple-A hitting coach, who was credited with helping Eugenio Velez become a better hitter this summer.
Awhaaaaaaaaa?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was that whole story about Velez hitting off a Tee which made him stay back on the ball more or something. Note “better” hitter. Velez went from like nada to, well, however he ended up
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forget that the average fan probably thinks Velez is an awesome hitter now.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All these reports at the Giants bad situational hitting making outs, they need to practice bunting off the tee more than hitting off the tee.
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 14, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only the faster, young position players need to bunt. The older, slower, hackers are fine as is.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious, Velez ended up hitting pretty close to how he did last year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 15, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GRANT KNEW ALL ALONG
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 14, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah he did! also from Baggs
Hensley Meulens will be a top candidate to replace Lansford.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh happy days!
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
are we so sure that Grant isn’t Baggs himself?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 15, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE SAME ROOM AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!!! OMGWTFBBQ
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 15, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shawon Dunston better NOT be the next hitting coach. I would be OK with Bam Bam like Henry and Baggs speculated.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunston will provide measurable results
afterall, he comes equipped with a Shawonometer
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 14, 2009 7:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know this will never happen, but I’d go for it.
Before each game, do a rundown of the starter’s tendencies. Develop a game plan. Even if for that means that they have a game plan of aggressively looking for a FB 1st pitch against a particular pitcher, or taking every first pitch against the next pitcher. As the game goes along, make adjustments, possibly alter the game plan. DO SOMETHING BESIDES THE SAME EFFIN SHIT GAME IN AND GAME OUT AGAINST EVERY STYLE OF PITCHER!
I know, Carney tried to talk to his batters to have a better approach and have a plan. Most didn’t listen. But, there needs to be some repercussions if the batter doesn’t go with the game plan (unless a situation in the game calls for a change in game plan). For example, If a game plan is to take every 1st pitch against the starter, then yank the first batter to swing at 1st pitch. I don’t care if it is Pablo. There needs to be someone who says “this is what you are going to do. If you don’t, then I’ll play someone who will”, otherwise it seems the mentality is “fuck Carney and his game plan”
I feel like Clint Hurdle
Giant Dirtbags: John Bowker, Steve Hammond. MIA List: Todd Jennings, Brian Anderson
Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 14, 2009 7:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree
I bet Lansford is just as frustrated with management as with the players. Bochy never punished any player for a shitty approach (except for maybe Schierholtz or Bowker) Why would Molina change his approach if Bochy thinks he’s the best hitter and is gonna bat him 4th no matter what.
Why should Rowand change his approach when he’s got his huge contract, and Bochy’s going to stick him in there anyways.
Bochy and Sabean couldn’t evaluate what makes a good offensive player to save there life. Thats the problem not lansford
by NateEveryday on Oct 14, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is that word, “effin,” for gosh sakes?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 14, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's official
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The San Francisco Giants will not renew hitting coach Carney Lansford’s contract after scoring the fifth fewest runs in the majors this season.
The team announced Wednesday that Lansford won’t be retained after his contract expires at the end of the month.
by esseffgeez on Oct 14, 2009 7:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Baggs said Carney might be too much of a ‘red ass’ to get along with this team. Makes sense since Bork-Head treats all the veteran fuck-ups like primadonas and constantly worries about who’s feelings he might be hurting next.
FUCK THAT.
HIre Will Clark and Jeff Kent to coach these children. Let them see what a real ‘red ass’ is.
No one here gets out alive.
by Bond16 on Oct 14, 2009 7:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t like the phrase “red ass.”
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t the foggiest what it means.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 14, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody pissed off.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 14, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neukom, Sabean and Bochy meet to discuss coaching change
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Oct 14, 2009 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Your 2010 Giants BRASSS
30% more nyuk nyuk!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 14, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they stick with Carney...sort of...
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 14, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like we say in the sewer, time and tide wait for no man.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 14, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any TV show or movie he played in was worth watching.
by boogalou on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much of whom i envision in the San Francisco Giants front office
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Need to replace Moe with Shep. It is obvious Bow Tie, Sabean & Hieead have not real leader between them.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
230 Comments
And not one mention of the newly available Rudy Jaramillo?
He’s got the ‘hitting guru’ tag on him, for crying out loud. He’s got a pretty darn good track record, from what I can see, as evidenced by the name on the back of his uni “They Shall Know Us By the Trail of .300 Hitters”
Ask Bagwell and Michael Young what they think of him.
C’mon giants brass, etc.
by biff pocoroba on Oct 14, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Karlifornia mentioned it somewhere up there. It’s also a Fanshot.
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Jeremy Affeldt induces DP's
by Giant among Angels on Oct 14, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To get Jaramillo, they’re going to have to make him one of the highest paid batting coaches in the game. Don’t hold your breath.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Oct 14, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who, not whom.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 14, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Represented by Boras. Bleh.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 14, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know, the Giants aren’t always afraid to spend money on luxury items older than 44 (examples: Johnson, Unit; Miller, Jon)
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Oct 14, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t expect me to read fanshots, read the above thread (even though I referenced it myself), or know who Rudy Jaramillo is. Just get Rudy Jaramillo, darnit.
by biff pocoroba on Oct 14, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy Jaramillo
get it done Sabes
first big splash of of the offseason :)
by 49erEmpire on Oct 14, 2009 7:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I believe that I addressed the coaching pay scale issue when I made the argument “C’mon giants brass, etc.”. QED
Get Rudy and see if can stuff Chris Davis in his carry-on luggage.
by biff pocoroba on Oct 14, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah cause he sure did wonders to Davis this year
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually that .284 obp and 24 walk to 150 k ratio would look mighty fine in our lineup
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Fits right in.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 14, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read that as " Fists right in." I thought there was another Twins vs Yanks game on!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And in other news
Dodgers owners Frank and Jamie McCourt separate
Dodgers owner Frank McCourt and his wife Jamie, the team’s chief executive officer, have separated, raising questions about potential ramifications for the ownership of the team.
No mention was made of a possible divorce. A dispute over their assets could lead to a sale of the team, as happened in a dispute between San Diego Padres owner John Moores and his estranged wife, Becky.
by esseffgeez on Oct 14, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HOLLA WE WANT PRENUP!
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it when Mommy and Daddy fight.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 14, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s something that you need to have
‘Cause when she leave yo’ ass she gon’ leave with half
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 14, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Bob Nightengale, it happened three months ago.
http://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/4879744829
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 14, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…and the split became pretty obvious recently. According to AP:
During the Dodgers’ division series sweep of St. Louis, the McCourts didn’t sit together in the owner’s box behind home plate. She sat in the first row and he was in the third, often next to former Dodgers manager Tom Lasorda.
by esseffgeez on Oct 14, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This story would be so much better if SHE was the one sitting next to Tommy Lasorda, the man who stole her away from Frankie.
by Bay Area Sports Guy on Oct 14, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
YYYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snippets from a Bloomberg interview with Jamie McCourt:
Jamie McCourt has just one opponent in mind for her Los Angeles Dodgers to face if they reach the World Series: the New York Yankees.
"Unequivocally," McCourt, the Dodgers’ chief executive officer, said in an interview on Bloomberg Radio. "That’s who I want to face. They’re the childhood team that I revered."
A Dodgers-Yankees final would draw the most interest, McCourt, 55, said.
"It would be fantastic for the entire country from coast to coast," she said. "It will be great for TV and keep everybody riveted. It would be two centerpiece teams, two icons, two legendary franchises that could have at it. Of course, we will win."
Interest in the playoffs this year helped Time Warner Inc.’s TBS network draw the best one-week ratings in its 33-year history. Almost 4.8 million viewers tuned in for each of 13 division series game, up 11 percent from last year. TBS carries the NLCS, while News Corp.’s Fox has the ALCS as well as the World Series.
McCourt, who bought the Dodgers with her husband, Frank McCourt, for $430 million in 2004, grew up in Baltimore and said she mostly followed the Yankees as a kid. Besides her own Yankees’ background, Jamie McCourt has other motives for her dream World Series matchup.
"It would be so much fun to have Joe Torre get even with the Yankees," she said of the Dodgers’ manager who joined Los Angeles before the 2008 season after 12 years guiding the Yankees.
Torre said this week that he doesn’t plan to manage the Dodgers after his contract expires following the 2010 season. McCourt said she plans to make it hard for him to walk away.
"Who wouldn’t want him forever?" she said. "From my vantage point, I’d keep Joe for as long as Joe would stay. I think he’s the greatest manager of all time."
Asked if she would give Torre a front-office job if that’s what it took to keep him, McCourt didn’t hesitate.
"I would offer Joe anything that he wanted because I think he’s so important to the game," she said.
Ugh. Can we all say, “GO PHILLIES!!!”
by esseffgeez on Oct 15, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angels fans to Mrs. McCourt
SCREW YOU. GO ANGELS!!
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 15, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: oh well won’t be able to talk much tomorrow or the weekend since thank God it’s fall break for school, i’ll be with friends on a road trip to the fabulous state of West Virginia and we’re going to Morgantown to see WVU vs. Marshall
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 8:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New stuff from Baggs
"Believe me, Carney did all he could. We know it was a free-swinging club and it’s a tough challenge. We understand that. But sure, we’d like to draw more walks and see more pitches. A lot of times, your lineup determines that. You’re not going to change hitters like Pablo (Sandoval) and Bengie (Molina). These are things we’ll work on, and no, it won’t be easy."
Triple-A Fresno hitting coach Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens would appear to be the top candidate and Bochy said he’d receive hefty consideration. Bochy and Sabean would look internally and externally, but I’m told former Texas hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo isn’t a name that’s come up.
"Hensley came up in September and did a nice job," Bochy said. "When you’re down in the minor leagues and you do a good job, that always speaks well. Brian and I, we all keep track of what players do when they go down there."
John Bowker had an equal number of walks and strikeouts while winning the PCL batting title, and Meulems also is credited with turning Eugenio Velez from complete washout into a major league player again.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
does that first quote block blow anyone else away?
Who is speaking there?
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, should have made that more clear. That was Bochy talking.
here is the link http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2009/10/14/bochy-says-lansford-is-not-a-scapegoat-says-its-time-for-a-new-voice/
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus WTF, old man?
basically admitting that Bengie’s approach sucks, yet he kept hitting him 4th all year. OK.
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by bondslegend on Oct 14, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Bochy, Baggs, and the like have always said that guys like Bengie and Panda are free swingers, but that is just how they are. He didn’t really say that this is good or not with them specifically. I feel like Bochy feels like its ok for Bengie to do it because Bochy likes the power and blah blah I feel sick even trying to defend Bengie by saying anything nice about his offense.
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t want to hurt Bengie’s feelings.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eugenio Velez from complete washout into a major league player again.
lolwut
by sfoakbay on Oct 14, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t get over that people think a dude with an 84 OPS+ in LF is a major league player
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by jponry on Oct 15, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn’t mean that he can’t do better next year; I give him one more before he becomes suspect
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be more optimistic if he was 21 instead of 27.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 15, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really see any reason to.
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"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 15, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are a lot of things that mean he can’t do better next year. You’re right that people thinking he’s talented isn’t one of them.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then one more before he goes from suspect to convict.
And then three more in the appeals process.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 15, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then he’ll improve?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, then he’ll just stay wherever he’s at for a very long time.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 15, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny
because I can’t get over that two people that think that just got two year contracts to KEEP thinking similar things.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still holding out the forlorn hope that they’ll look at Velez’s stats over the offseason and go oops, he didn’t perform as well as we’d perceived, and is a stupid choice to start next year.
I still find it hard to fathom that of the 4 potential OF we have (Velez, Lewis, Bowker, Schierholtz) that they’ve anointed the one who’s probably the worst as starter. Seriously, how can anyone look at the performance of Lewis and say he should be benched whilst looking at the performance of Velez (which was much worse) and say that he should be the opening day starter?
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by GiantFan on Oct 15, 2009 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give him the Ortmeire Kiss!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, he probably IS a major league player. Just not a starting left-fielder.
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Oct 15, 2009 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played in the major leagues, didn’t he?
Case closed.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be charitable...
…if Velez changed his approach after working Meulens this year, it’d be more appropriate to look at his second-half stats: .277/.321/.426 in 268 PAs, for a 98 OPS+.
Yeah, I’m not really convinced either.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess moving a guy from awful to not good is something.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But those first two weeks he came back up, extrapolated for the rest of the season!!!
by nataku on Oct 15, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did say “player” not: all star, hall of famer, or starter.
by Merope on Oct 15, 2009 5:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love for Mr. Meulens to get the nod. He’s blissfully unaware of his candidacy in the race; he didn’t even know Lansford had been fired until someone brought it up to him. He is coaching in the Venezuelan Winter League with Margarita IIRC. He’s a smart dude and brings a lot more to the table than just a coach.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Oct 15, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope he gets a real chance with the job and is not being lined up for the next sacrificial Lamb on the Sabean/Big Head alter of No Plate Discipline.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The festishization of meat is reactionary and part of the subjugation of the working class of America
I call it the fillet-ary industrial complex
by bobnothing on Oct 14, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: Tonights South Park is amazing
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeaa, i missed that, i’ll probably catch it at 1, damn!
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nevermind it’s on now, it’s midnight not 1
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
aren’t they all?
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love his character so much
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 14, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, actually my big in the fraternity, his pledge name was Butters, mine was pledge smug… never knew where smug came from, then watched south park and understood it
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand i just figured out what your name meant
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by Viliphied on Oct 15, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know until PikA mentioned it during one game day thread.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 15, 2009 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
shame on both of you
the Interfraternity Council’s jackbooted thugs are coming for you.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 5:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, that’s why i capitalized teh “P” and the “KA” so it’d be Pi Kappa Alpha, i just didn’t want to use it as a username
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a pokemon reference. I thought that was obvious.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pi Kappa Alpha Chi Upsilon?
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by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I choose you!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick Keg Stand Attack!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 15, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there’s anything I hate more than Dodgers, it’s frat guys. Except you, of course
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, there are some pretty bad frat guys here though, not so much in our fraternity, but in KA and Beta Theta Pi, those guys are complete ass holes.
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
larry jansen
Moment of silence for Larry Jansen, the winning pitcher in game 3 of the 1951 playoff game against the dodgers. “The shot heard round the world”
by daddy3xnyc on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Giants must improve their situational hitting and bunting, too. They were brutal with runners in scoring position, especially in September.
"It’s vital for us. We understand that," Bochy said. "And I’ve said that I may have to adjust the way I manage the club offensively."
Should we be hopeful that he’s learning? Or is he just full of shit?
by deuce deuce on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this a serious question?
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by The Thrill on Oct 14, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do find it offensive, certainly.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 14, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He should’ve come to this conclusion halfway through the damn season. He’s just spewing BS to the press
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean like when he said player x would start y number of games, and then rode the bench for 57 weeks?
by Merope on Oct 15, 2009 5:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure that he means he needs to be more aggressive with the way he manages the club offensively. To take advantage of more manager’s counts, and focus on the fundamentals.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chasm sense is tingling!!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some thoughts on Jaramillo and others
Interestingly, an article I read in MLB Trade Rumors suggested that the parting of ways between Jaramillo and the Rangers was a mutual decision after a down year for the Texas offense. The Rangers ranked in the middle of the AL in pitches seen per at bat but had the most swings at first pitches in the league. While he is very well regarded, we do have to consider the quality of the hitters he had to work with, the home park he coached in, the fact that he had a DH, and that he did not have to deal with as much bunting in the AL.
There will likely be a lot of competition for Jaramillo’s services, and it is rumored that the Astros and Cubs are interested. If Jaramillo wants to stay close to home it might be tough to beat out the Astros.
Meulens does have some familiarity and success with current Giants hitters so he is a sensible choice and I would be ok with hiring him. But part of me wants the Giants to make a big splash and hire Jack the Ripper. The Giants organization is big on celebrating the proud heritage of the franchise and bringing on the Ripper would be a bold statement to fans and hopefully to the hitters he will be coaching.
by baseballjunkie on Oct 14, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can live with Bam Bam
but I hate that Carney is the scape goat. He tried to teach these guys to be more patient and to think about the situation before they stepped to the plate and is not responsible for this team’s woes. he didn’t make the LOLineups everyday. he didn’t fill the roster with brain dead first pitch slop hackers. He did what he could with a lackluster group that learned quickly that vets gets 500 at bats to prove they suck and young guys have to succeed each at bat to get another one and that walks don’t count.
I don’t think that Bochy and Sabean will all of a sudden change their idiotic approaches to their jobs, but I just hope Bam Bam gets a little more to work with than Lansford had and good luck.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 14, 2009 11:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
So what you’re saying is, instead of leading a bunch of stubborn (stupid?) horses to water, we should just find some new horses? IAWTC
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by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s the water that’s being stupid and stubborn. Hey, why don’t you come to my horses every now and then? We’re sick and tired of coming to you! We should go find some new water.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well old friend
I think you are right, but I also hand it to Brain and Bork for their use of Carney as under-bus throwing material. “Gee Duke Neukom, we have all these savvy vets and Fresno mayors, but Carney screwed everything up telling them to hold the bat at the wrong end and letting them drink Robitussin and 7up before games”.
And since next year it will be cheaper to fire Meulens than buy out the SECOND year on Brain/Bork’s contract…. he’ll be another damp spot in the road next to Carney.
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by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because Lansford wasn’t the biggest reason for our offensive problems doesn’t mean he did his job well and should be kept on. Also I’ve not heard anything to suggest that he’s being treated as a scapegoat. We should be looking to make any improvements we can and I’m interested in whether a move is an improvement rather whether it’s creating a “scapegoat”.
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by GiantFan on Oct 15, 2009 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the buck stops at the hitting coach
team can’t hit. blame the hitting coach.
I want Bork and Sabean gone. They get extensions while Carney takes the fall for the shitty offense? I’m not saying Carney should definitely stay on, but since he’s the only one going, it looks like a scapegoat situation and Bork and Sabean are let off the hook for the offensive woes of the team, when they’re far more responsible for the bad offense than Lansford.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 15, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, i don’t think I’ve seen any mention of them blaming him for our inept offense, that’s your inference and I’m not sure its there. You could say the same about any minor change but as long as it’s made with improvements in mind, i don’t see the issue.
Also, it’s less straightforward with Sabean and Bochy as they’re in charge of the pitching/defense as well (and have both been succesful at that) whereas Lansford is only responsible for the offense. I’m arguing over whether they should have kept Bochy/Sabean but i don’t see why neither of them being fired should mean that Lansford should be. Lansford should be let go depending on the job he’s done, not the job that Sabean/Bochy have done.
It’s like saying they shouldn’t upgrade the 1B position as the 2B situation is worse. They should look to upgrade at every possible position and their failures at other positions shouldn’t stop them from trying to make improvements at others.
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by GiantFan on Oct 15, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
flying in the face of the mccoven's
gotta go with dodgers & angels—an all cali world series
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 12:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 15, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
geography counts
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you’re anti-east coast, right?
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 15, 2009 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you’re thinking of math.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know why anybody would use the word Cali, either.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali
He is probably not from Cali, Cali, Cali.
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going back to Cali?
Hmph. I don’t think so.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, all my friends here in Ohio call it San Fran, Frisco, CALI, saying it how AHNULD says it
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frisco
is in Texas
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You, sir, are a gentleman AND a scholar of geography.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Fran
Androgynous patron saint of bad city nicknames
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, apparently they think there’s a bridge that connects San Francisco to LA
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t that what the improvements to the Bay Bridge were supposed to do?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, well in fact, i’m doing a 10 page paper on the improvements of the Bay Bridge and other buildings and things in the Bay Area for another earthquake
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no you're not
you’re wasting your time with us!
Fun fact for your paper: the earthquake happened 20 years ago, and Caltrans is still working on the replacement span.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
California’s government depresses me (on a bipartisan basis).
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, that’s the point, it’s not due for another month or two, but i’m just looking up sources. Like the fact they aren’t doing shit to the bridge is what i’m writing about
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see you have a title
“They Aren’t Doing Shit to the Bridge”
The good news is… you’ll also be able to use this research for your doctoral dissertation in 10 years!
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But in 10 years the title will be “they didn’t do enough shit to the bride in time”
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm… the bride is probably happy about that, though.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffff
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
For sure, that’s exactly what’s goin on now. The class i’m taking is a natural hazards class that all i need to do is talk about what kind of retrofitting they’re doing and shit. Boy is it fun
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus my professor is from LA, and all she talks about are the bad things that happens down there
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
shit is pretty hazardous; look at the way we treat it
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea dude, it’s what happens everywhere in California, wonder why we have mudslides… because of fires, why we have fires? partly natural, the other is we build homes on hills and mountain sides
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More science fun facts
it also flows downhill
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
put that in your paper
no extra charge
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always worth bonus points
“Mass wasting.” Also, talus. It’s just fun to say.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 15, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
talk about a bridge to no where!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not hard to police myself, but I do find myself almost saying “San Fran” from time to time. I do wish there were a more mellifluous nickname than “The City.” For a town with such a great-sounding full name, the nickname is really perfunctory.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 15, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Eddie Izzard’s riff on “The City.”
“You going the City?” “Yeah, I might go to the City.”
It’s not called the West Bay. Nooooo.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, i always call it the city, “yo man, you going into the city today or what?” “hey bud, i’m in the city, so i’ll be back in an hour”
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should run an informal contest to see who can come up with a better (yet acceptable) nickname.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 15, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The hushpuppies! Oh, wait…
I like those who have the balls to call it Frisco. I don’t very often, but do on occasion. Hawkeye Joe on KFJC has called it Frisco for years claiming “I can do it—I live there.” I guess I kinda adopted that mindset.
I dont see anyone giving the Red & White shit for their “Frisco” chapter.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 15, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
native San Franciscans don't generally have an issue with "Frisco"
bikers and brothers call it Frisco unironically — it seems that it’s mostly transplants that have an issue with it.
Frisco.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
by delorean on Oct 15, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll put in a nomination for “Why-the-fuck-is-Market-Street-diagonal-that-really-fucks-everything-up-for-me-every-time-I-drive-there City”.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s…a good start. Maybe a little shorter, but still good.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 15, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Acronym?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 15, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Place accross the bridge where you can never make a left turn.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can make a left off Market onto Valencia. Zeitgeist is two blocks down on your left. Problem solved and forgotten.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 15, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should put an asterisk next to Barry Bonds’ records, not because of the steroids, but because he played in San Francisco and an asterisk looks like an intersection at Market Street.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing that gets me all messed up is that the street names in downtown, though they form a grid, are named regular names. NYC, with the streets and avenues are much easier to navigate.
by DrStankus on Oct 15, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who drives on Market Street?
Weirdo.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 15, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry- nickname taken
by London and New York.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Gillian Welch uses it, it’s ok.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll have a word with her about that…
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t believe there’s a Gillian Welch reference here (great musician, though)
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a number of posters here are fans.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GranoLOLa
and cheeze blog
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
iyam. and it goes well with sunny. and it’s lower case.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cali is a city in Texas
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 15, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 15, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cali is a cartel in Columbia
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fail
that’s an all SO-CAL series. Jim Rome’s wet dream. My nightmare.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 15, 2009 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So-Cali
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hand over your user name, then
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
greatgiantfan not so great aktually
Merkin Valdez? Manuel Mateo? A rose by any other name...
by rotorueter on Oct 15, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He uses it ironically.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 15, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“great” giant fan
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 15, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird thing I saw
I was on New Montgomery street today when I came to an intersection and saw none other than Lou Seal directing traffic. After a few seconds he waved some guy over, then proceeded to hop into the passenger seat and drive off. Everyone sort of stopped what they were doing and looked around trying to figure out what was going on.
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 2:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only in San Fra—the City. That was a close one.
by TheLetter2 on Oct 15, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he was directing traffic with pelvic thrusts.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 15, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, no. My first instinct was to look around for cameras, because I thought they might be filming another Life of Brian episode.
Wall-E for Best Picture 2008
2009: The return of Los Galacticos!
by Useful_Idiot on Oct 15, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not as if he has anything else to do these days.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 15, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not surprised that Lansford isn’t coming back although he’s obviously not the main reason our offense was poor. I guess the kind of things a GM uses for evaluating a hitting coach are:
1) Did the players match or better its expectations? In this case we generally underperformed.
2) Did the players make adjustments/improve over the season. In this case most of the players were the same at the end of the season as they were at the beginning.
3) Was the situational hitting good? Not the most important thing but something a coach can have an effect on. Again, we didn’t really excel in that area.
4) Did he gain a good reputation amongst players/staff. It would seem that wasn’t the case either.
I think evaluating hitting coaches as a fan is an almost impossible task given the other factors involved so i don’t know who the best replacement is. I very much doubt they’ll pay big money or sign a big name coach so Jamrillo is unlikely. Meulens looks the most likely and Bowker did a good job adjusting this year. However I’m not sure how much faith i have in the hitting coaches on the farm.
Proud parent of Waldis Joaquin!
by GiantFan on Oct 15, 2009 5:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OT:
Is anyone else watching Modern Family? Definitely the best new show of the season.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 15, 2009 7:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In a rare turn of events, I actually did see television. And that show. It impressed me on a lot of counts, though it seems like it’s a pretty slow burn to me.
It was pretty interesting seeing Diane from Cheers in a not-Cheers-rerun, too.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i usually judge the shows based on what my girlfriend thinks, she loves survivor, i think that show sucks. She hates CSI and Office, and i love them both… so it’s almost opposite
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully, the “opposites attract” rule applies
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so far it has, and i did do my homework on that one
by PiKAgiant on Oct 15, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/dude
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the guy who’s the father of the cute girl would say Cali
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 15, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I’m liking it quite a bit. Very funny. Surprisingly funny.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 15, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, anybody else have a Big-Ass Earthquake drill in 5 minutes?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can neither confirm nor deny how big your ass is.
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Oct 15, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s actually pretty big. But I hear that’s a good thing for a dude.
Although these child-bearing hips aren’t likely to do me any good anytime soon.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, you’re just not ready for a family yet
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 15, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What aboot McCoven as family? DIS-functional, yet family.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 15, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I saw those hips in the Hellfire challenge pics. First think I thought was “Hips don’t lie” and thne I thought man Howie wouldn’t have any problems giving birth!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s true: My hips don’t lie.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird, they just sounded the siren that usually signals noon here in the Mission (in the Rain). I guess this is what you’re referencing. I can hear a PA blaring. Could be celebrating Honduras making the World Cup finals, but I doubt it.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 15, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, they just did that air-raid horn downtown but it’s not noon on a Tuesday
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 15, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, there was some kind of “state-wide” earthquake drill my company was participating in.
It was boring. You think they’d simulate shaking to help enrich the experience. But nope. Just sit under your desk until somebody fails to notify you that you can stop. Very organized.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/cut to five p.m.
“Oh, man! Are you still down there? Sorry! I should’ve told you the drill was over with three hours ago. Don’t forget that budget pow-wow tomorrow.”
by TheLetter2 on Oct 15, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…nevermind, that was just pre-shock to the Dodgers failing
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the multitudes of the Righteous and Innocent rejoice!
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 15, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Grant, I hope you're happy.
Carney Lansford’s out of a job and it’s all your fault.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Oct 15, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
/hopes Grant doesn’t write a post about why I should be fired from my job.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 15, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts about the Giants, and Carney
Carney did a good job, he cant hit for the players but look what he had to work with. Arron, this guy had 1 freak year in Philly and the idiots in the front office spend millions on him so much so, that now we cant dump him if we could. Winn, sorry Randy – thanks for the memorries but its time to go….3 YEARS AGO. And number of others that Boch played day after day after day. The problem is with the trainer. Both the bats, and pitching arms were tired at the end. Isnt it the Trainers job to keep them in shape and strong to the end? The Giants already nailed there coffen by extending Sabrian and Boch. We are in for another close but no cigar season unless they both get fired in early 2010. Bye Bye Bengi, Jeff, Randy (both of them) Garko, AND I WISH they could get rid of Zitto and Rowand. Keep Sanchez on a short rope as trade bait and LET THE KIDS PLAY!!!!
by James D on Oct 15, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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