Quick notes on the Bochy/Sabean extension
by Grant on Oct 13, 2009 2:37 PM PDT
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For the non-regular ghouls who are stopping by to see how Giants fans are reacting to the news that Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean have new contracts, here’s a quick primer:
Here’s where the Giants have ranked for the past five years in runs scored compared to the rest of Major League Baseball:
Note that the first three seasons listed were with Barry Bonds. So the Giants' only hope is that Sabean realizes that he needs to change how he evaluates hitters. He failed at his offseason quest to build a better offense, and he failed because his long-held opinions on what makes a good offense were wrong. They’ve been wrong for a while. He needs to completely reevaluate his core beliefs, and he needs to try something different.2005 – 29th out of 30 teams
2006 – 24th out of 30
2007 – 29th out of 30
2008 – 29th out of 30
2009 – 26th out of 30
Sabean needs to have an epiphany and realize that his attempts to build an offense have failed. He can’t be stubborn. He can’t be arrogant.
Oh, and he needs to come to this realization on his own because his vision was just validated and reinforced with a contract extension.
So, yeah. We’re in for a fantastic couple of seasons.
As for Bochy, the thing to remember is that he has no idea how to evaluate hitters. Young players have about 100 at-bats to win him over, and old players get about 2,000 at-bats to lose his trust. Not only did Randy Winn hold on to a starting job throughout the season – if you’ll recall, Winn was the right fielder with two home runs in over 600 plate appearances, poor contact skills, and a subpar walk rate – but Bochy decided that Winn was good enough to take the #3 spot in the lineup. The best way to make Bochy an effective manager is to eliminate any lineup questions. He needs to be given a team with unquestionably good hitters.
So, yeah. We’re in for a fantastic couple of seasons.
Maybe Bill Neukom went to Sabean and said, "Look, your teams haven’t scored runs in five years. Why?" And maybe Sabean gave him an honest, soul-searching answer without using situational hitting as an excuse. And maybe Neukom was satisfied enough with the direction of the farm system and the pitching staff that he accepted the honest answer. Maybe. I don’t know, I wasn’t there.
It’s illogical to assume that, though. It only works as an unlikely hope. The logical assumption, then, is that this is a crazy move made by people who don’t know what they’re doing, and the result is that other people who don’t know what they’re doing get to keep doing a poor job.
So, yeah. We’re in for a fantastic couple of seasons.
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CONSISTENCY
TWO MORE YEARS PITCHING AND BORKFENSE NERDS
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 13, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was a New York thing
by Mrbasepaul on Oct 13, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow , and we extended this guy? I hate this team, I have never felt this bad going into an offseason, I feel like they will learn nothing because of a fluky winning season and will fuck us for years.
Congrats to my soul mate and birth brother Zach Wheeler on being drafted into greatness. Should I just buy my Wheeler jersey now, or wait till my next birthday?
by TexasRanger on Oct 13, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
extended
TWO years. It’s like Costco, you might hate corn flakes, but you can buy a really gigantic box for the same price of a small box at Safeway.
Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti. "I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."
Nobody puts Bengie in a corner!
by natteringnabob on Oct 13, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright who threw the Ecno-sized barrel of Super Concentrated Suck into the cart !??!?
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 13, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“That’s a good price for 12 lbs of nutmeg”
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, tearing up Scottsdale, and has been alive long enough to see the Warriors make the playoffs once.
by BrianBokake on Oct 13, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec’d for succinctly capturing the zeitgiest
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Oct 14, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 14, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring on the pain!!!
Grant is right too, look at the positions we have filled already and the possibilities for upgrades…we’re gonna continue to be screwed.
by Mrbasepaul on Oct 13, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Giants were 26th in runs scored, but they were also 30th in OBP, and 28th in SLG. So 26th was actually pretty lucky. Fuck me.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There really shouldn’t be a comma after OBP.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you're going to commatize there shouldn't be a space before it.
Just workin’ out the new knowledge.
STATS is next. Please shoot me.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/shoots Vic in the leg
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 13, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at all the blood!!
Is there a plumber in the house?
"The part of the roster where most of the money is spent, though, is on free agents and guys acquired through trade — guys Sabean did play a big role in acquiring. And they are not good. When you get 2/5 of a pitching rotation for free, you would think you could do better with $76 million than to field the league’s worst offense."
-Taliesin September, 2009
by Lyle on Oct 14, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on who taught you your grammar. Some people are just old school.
Pablo's not fat. He's just got body.
by LeMasterBlaster on Oct 14, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is part of the reason our BtB ranking is so low. When you say it, it makes perfect sense, but when a non-Giants fan suggests it, people get defensive.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The BtB ranking is crap. Obviously, our offense was awful. Any fool (well, except for 3 who happen to work in the Giants organization) can see that. The reason the ranking is crap is because it ignores the reality that the pitching and defense were certainly at least good enough to bring the Giants to middle-of-the-pack, which is not quite as good as their actual finish (8th best record in baseball), but not as ridiculous as the BtB ranking (8th worst in baseball).
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Oct 13, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how does it “ignore the reality that the pitching and defense were certainly at least good enough to bring the Giants to middle-of-the-pack?” Do they not include pitching and defense in their formula? Do you disagree with the way they measure pitching and defense, and/or have an idea how to make it better?
What you really mean is that the ranking is crap because you disagree with some of the results. In other words, when someone researches something and is surprised by the results, he or she should just assume the research was crap and move on.
By the way, The ranking does agree that we are middle of the pack in the NL.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other words, when someone researches something and is surprised by the results, he or she should just assume the research was crap and move on.
You’re either with us or against us!
by 2X2L on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagreeing with some of the results is not necessarily a full rejection.
by 2X2L on Oct 13, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is “the BtB ranking is crap” not a full rejection?
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a rejection of the Giants’ ranking. Several suggestions have been made as to why the system may introduce specific distortions that affect the Giants’ ranking or the Royals’ ranking and not necessarily others. Seems like useful criticism to follow up on, not a wholesale consignment to the craphole.
by 2X2L on Oct 13, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude doesn’t get paid, so he has no reason. It just for fun
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by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he meant the entire ranking system. In any case, this: “the reason the ranking is crap is because it ignores the reality that the pitching and defense were certainly at least good enough to bring the Giants to middle-of-the-pack”, is just a way of saying:
- I think the Giants’ pitching made up for their hitting.
- The system doesn’t think the Giants’ pitching made for their hitting.
- Therefore, the system ignored how good the Giants’ pitching was.
“The results were surprising, therefore the method was incorrect” is simply not a good way to do research.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting that you keep using the word “research”. Is there a way to verify the results of these rankings independently?
by 2X2L on Oct 13, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure what this means.
For hitting, BtB used wOBA, which is acknowledged as the best hitting stat available (based on research by Ton Tango). There are plenty of disagreements in the SABR community, but everyone agrees that wOBA is as good as it gets.
For pitching they used FIP, which is, again, as good as any pitching stat out there (based on research by Voros McCracken, I think).
For defense, they used UZR, which is as good as any defensive metric available (developed by MGL).
They added league adjustments, again based on research by MGL, to which I linked in another thread.
This whole ranking this is just a combination of a bunch of different stats that were all developed after a lot of research, done by very smart people, who pretty much devote their lives to doing baseball research.
So yes, I don’t have a problem calling this “research.” I don’t know what’s “interesting” about it.
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, thanks for the rundown. About my 10th in the last two days, actually. Does everybody who subscribes to All That feel they need to publish a primer on it all when they observe someone expressing skepticism about an application of it? — or have I just been lucky?
I own and have read The Book. Great stuff etc etc. Still, I’m skeptical of the combined application of the statistical methods from Tango and others in this particular ranking methodology. I think that’s appropriate. Tell me why it isn’t.
by 2X2L on Oct 13, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You implied that calling it “research” is wrong. I explained why it isn’t. Do you agree that it isn’t? If not, try to actually explain why this time.
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by Cookyman on Oct 16, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The results were surprising, therefore the method was incorrect
You’re right, this shouldn’t be used as a crutch. But a lot of the time, getting weird results is a product of poor methodology. For example, if you have a series of data points in a scatter plot, then plot a best-fit line which predicts f(15)=30, then actually measure the value of x=15 and get 50, there is a problem with your line. Observed results>expected results. So if BtB says the Giants are the 8th worst team in baseball, and the Giants finished as the 8th best team in baseball, it’s not unreasonable to posit that there is something wrong with the way they are analyzing data, and that’s something that should be looked at before you assume the results are correct.
And there sort of is. Any time you perform a sabremetric analysis like BtB does, you’re basing future performance on past performance, which doesn’t work so well when you take into account the fact that players can improve or decline. So when BtB says that Player X has produced a career line of .275/.350/.450 so we expect Player X to produce a line of .275/.350/.450 next year, that’s obviously flawed. It typically works out because players obviously usually perform to their career norms, but Matt Cain, Juan Uribe, and Pablo Sandoval certainly didn’t.
And the Sandoval thing brings up another problem: how do you evaluate rookies? Based on minor league numbers (which are definitely not very significant when it comes to major league ability)? Based on small sample of major league hitting (which present the SSS problem and are therefore dangerous)? The Giants had a LOT of unproven talent and complete unknowns this year, or just plain players that haven’t had enough service time to make an accurate judgement. How do you predict how Velez, Schierholtz, Bowker, Posey, Sandoval, Burriss, Torres, Ishikawa, Whiteside, Bumgarner, Romo, Rohlinger, Downs, etc will do, and can you reasonably make an accurate prediction based on those results?
by quincy0191 on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, most of this comment is irrelevant, since BtB’s ranking isn’t a projection, it’s just an evaluation of passed performance.
I obviously agree with your first point – it is, in fact, the exact point I was trying to make: skepticism is good, dismissal is bad.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s an acceptable basis for skepticism in this particular case then? If this is a method that claims to reveal an underlying truth about team performance or value that admits of no other access, then it defines its own truth. Impervious to constructive criticism, no?
by 2X2L on Oct 13, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
most of this comment is irrelevant, since BtB’s ranking isn’t a projection, it’s just an evaluation of passed performance.
Uber fail. You do realize I said BtB’s system is flawed because they base their rankings on past performance? And their rankings are a projection of standings assuming players perform to their past levels (they even predict divison/WC winners and playoff matchups).
BtB says that Player X has produced a career line of .275/.350/.450 so we expect Player X to produce a line of .275/.350/.450 next year, that’s obviously flawed.
And then I said,
how do you evaluate rookies?
and proceeded to explain that they can’t really evaluate rookies since there isn’t enough information FROM THE PAST so it’s difficult for them to form an accurate projection of any team that uses a significant number of young players (which affects the entire ranking; if you put Team X a few slots higher than they deserve, or a few slots lower, that’ll affect the rank of teams around them, and it becomes a domino effect).
Also, I think MCC is skeptical leaning on dismissive because the ranking is so grossly out of proportion with the Giants’ performance; we finished with 8th best record in baseball while playing in the 2nd toughest division. That’s impressive.
by quincy0191 on Oct 13, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he’s right. The particular rankings under discussion here involve no performance projections of any kind. Instead they are aimed at ranking team performance by breaking down what the players on the team have done this year into components that are assigned value in terms of runs, according to the methods for offense, pitching, and defense that Cookyman named, and then summing the component runs. The idea is to isolate the “true value” of what everybody brought to the table.
by 2X2L on Oct 13, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worst team in baseball, imo.
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 13, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You shouldn’t assume that the research is crap. You state areas of weakness and try to address it. The problem at BtB is they admit one area of weakness but say"if you were to do it that I think you would get the same result
/rankings are subjective and I don’t really give a shit about btb rankings
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by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we get defensive only when the team is ranked below the Royals. I think most of us are quite willing to accept that we saw an 81-83 win team win 88 games.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 13, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s 2 more games than are in a season.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 14, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that’s a range. The Giants probable ability indicated (to us) they were going to win between 81 and 83 games.
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 14, 2009 5:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that’s what I meant. Thank you.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 14, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For reference if you do a simple calculation based on WAR from Fangraphs then that’s exactly what they say we were last year (an 82 win team)
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by GiantFan on Oct 14, 2009 5:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Cookyman on Oct 16, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what present-day STATS NERDS would've made of the 1997 Giants
They won 90 games and the division despite giving up more runs than they allowed. Logically they should’ve regressed seriously, but they won 89 in 1998 without any major acquisitions.
/random
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Logic has no place in baseball. </Giants fan>
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Oct 13, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
-Glenallen Hill, Rich Wilkins & Jose Vizcaino
+ Javier/Burks/Bernard, Brian Johnson & Rich Aurilia
Each on it’s own wasn’t a big improvement, but it added up.
On the pitching side I’m at a loss, as the only major change was Robb Nenn, and Estes and Rueter got a lot worse in 1998.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 13, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stan Javier played 141 games for the Giants in 1998.
Burks I forgot about because he was a mid-season acquisition.
I thought Glenallen Hill was good at the time. :(
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it's Rick Wilkins, not Rich
His Giants career was weird. He was really, really good in 1996 and the worst thing ever in 1997.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe the common denominator was Dusty
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
err, we’re looking for differences, not similarities.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 13, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
51 OPS
I have almost zero memory of him.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 13, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OPS+
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 13, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing you mean OPS+
He wasn’t THAT bad. :)
We got him for Manwaring. At the time I liked it – he had a track record of being a much better hitter. Only stayed that way for half a season, though.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet ’stache though
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or wait. did he have a stache on Giants or was that from his A’s days
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good at the time…I was high at the time.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Oct 13, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
multiple 1997 bombing by Expos and Dodgers throws off the stats
5/06 10-3 L
5/07 19-3 L
5/16 14-13 L
06/20 11-7 L
06/21 11-0 L
07/10 11-0 L
by hokysmksbw on Oct 13, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those games happened, why would you exlcude them?
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 14, 2009 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People aren’t defensive they just point out that it produces results that look pretty stupid. Why do people get so defensive when such rankings are criticized?
The problem with any statistical result is that it doesn’t tell you much unless you know the accuracy in which it has. The problem with those rankings are that they are hugely variable depending on the way in which they’re done. As an example, about a month before the end of the season i looked at the Rockies/Giants comparable rankings and found that BtB claimed that they were a 14 win better team. I also looked at the fangraphs totals (which use a lot of the same inputs such as wOBA and UZR) and they ended up saying that the Rockies were a 2-3 win better team. Now that’s just one example but it shows how it’s pretty silly to take the rankings with any certainty.
And so that’s the problem with the BtB rankings, they may claim that the Giants are the 8th worst team in baseball but due to the huge errors the conclusion can’t really be made with any certainly. It’s hardly surprising that people poke fun of the strange results when they occur.
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by GiantFan on Oct 14, 2009 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
“For the non-regular ghouls who are stopping by to see how Giants fans are reacting to the news that Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean have new contracts,…”
Right on the dot…
Warning: the above represents the thoughts and opinions of a 16-year-old.
Wanna see how bad I suck at softball? See my stats...
by Wailord on Oct 13, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I thought I caught you,
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 13, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: In madden 2010, ADRIAN PETERSON IS NOT GOD IN THIS GAME! Seriously, it’s like the only guy that can tackle him is fucking WILLIS
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just lile real life!
Only Patrick Willis can sack Brett Favre and tackle Adrian Peterson at the same time.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting to look like it… OMG SOAPOAGA JUST TACKLED PETERSON
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have a 360 or ps3?
if ps3 I need to destroy you online sometime
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s called homework. do it.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOO, as a geography major, we got none
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DUDE U SUK
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll just have to live with the knowledge that I could totally beat you
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG NO WAI
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh
The 2010 SF Giants. Your NL West 3rd Place Finishers.
At Best.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll say 4th. I'll take AZ for 3rd.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though it was practically inevitable that they would return, the potential of this forthcoming off-season just got a whole lot more depressing.
by deuce deuce on Oct 13, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we can call this poll by a landslide…
by esseffgeez on Oct 13, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Like Obama carrying Vermont or McCain in Idaho.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, this may be the stupidest comment about baseball I can remember seeing, so I'll bring it over from the last thread
From Facebook:
Sheri Katsuyama told you giants fan should vote to see if we want the manger to return or even gm but you guys don’t agree with me so life suck and still unfair but i give bruce a nother change as long as he doesn’t sign f. the lewis for a four year deal because he was worthless let get a bat aleast if not i hope your ready to befire in the mid of the season
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously she’s an English major.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stopped trying to read that after “told you giants fan”.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 13, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This – but then I wanted to see how many mistakes there were going to be. I lost count.
by calpolynate on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, “f. the lewis” may be the least clever nickname ever.
And she thinks that Bruce Bochy is responsible for signing players to contracts, apparently.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but I give Bruce another change
Is he incontinent now? I had no idea he was getting that bad.
by calpolynate on Oct 13, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe she thinks he’s the head of the Lewis clan.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 13, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
f. the lewis
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by jponry on Oct 13, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
f to the izzz el
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The funniest thing: Fred Lewis is, in fact, signed for another four years.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Under team control is not the same thing as signed.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, but still.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheri Katsuyama nee Steffes?
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by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haters, get lost
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We are lost
In a miasma of existential despair.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t think that being a fan qualifies as existential
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deliberately over-florid language.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
'existential' modified 'despair,' not 'fan'
I would say this level of despair calls for that word.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mayo— you are the queen of grammar, having taken the crown from my mom.
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not grammar, mi amiga. That is reading an English sentence and seeing which words go with which other words and deriving the right meaning.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just like my mom
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty sure you mom joke were only popular last millennium.
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by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
go get him, mayor…
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL OLD
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old like most or all of our moms!
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what does old have to do with this?
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its OK, you can tell us if your mom abused you.
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by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what, your mom never corrected your grammar?
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She never had the need too.
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by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Grammar Is Always Perfect
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Sad day for U.S. soccer
Charlie Davies was in an accident. It’s pretty serious. And they have a big match tomorrow. Terrible news.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Oct 13, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Terrible news. Davies was starting to come into his own as a player.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously? yer posting soccer news on a baseball site?
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is your deal?
it’s OT, and we talk about just about everything here. I think you’d like purple row more
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND THAT WAS A JOKE,
im not telling another person to leave
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
U R 5
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quite a few fútbol fans here
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gosh. I didn’t know that a comment with a link was so offensive to you. I’m glad I didn’t make a fanshot, I’m scared to know what you would’ve said then.
It is news, and some people care about it. Sheesh.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(hes sort of a douche, apparently)
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can’t use your hands? might as well play blind.
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The VAST HUGE, SWARMING
majority of the world disagrees with you
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It takes more skill to not use your hands, not less
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
go islam
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I….uh….whu!?
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Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
Options:
- He thinks that soccer is only/mostly popular in Muslim countries, which is silly, since it’s probably more popular in South America and Europe than any other place.
- He is using Islam as an example of something that the “vast, huge, swarming” majority of the world likes, but actually sucks. Even staying away from politics, this is obviously bullshit, since something like 80% of the world isn’t Muslim. It’s not even the most popular religion.
Best I can do.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, those are the two options I can come up with.
Interestingly, the Catholic Church recently said that Islam surpassed Catholicism as the world’s largest religion. Which only makes sense if you count Christian denominations separately but Muslim denominations together. And why would the Catholic Church go out of their way to make Islam seem bigger than their own religion? I didn’t understand that.
/random
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
people like rooting for the underdog?
We're all basically Pedro Feliz.
by SF Pete on Oct 13, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you assume that the Church only ever acts out of self-interest, then clearly you’d be surprised. But then if you’re a follower of Dawkins, I suppose that’s only natural.
Muslims very rarely respond to questioning on whether or not they are Shi’a or Sunni. The various Christian denominations, on the other hand, take a lot of pride in being separate from each other, and overall are always very proud of not being Catholic.
--
Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 13, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
You’re making a lot of assumptions. I actually find Richard Dawkins pretty unpleasant and annoying. I posted the link because that’s what I was able to Google. Actually I was going to link to the Yahoo News article cited there, but it had expired.
I don’t think the church ALWAYS acts in self-interest, though of course they do often, just like any other institution.
It is true that Muslim denominations aren’t really the same as Christian denominations – which makes sense, because the divisions are more historical than doctrinal, and because Islam is really more about orthopraxy than orthodoxy. And clergy is less important generally. With that having been said, the Shi’a/Sunni distinction is becoming increasingly important in the Middle East due to the ascent of Shi’a rule in Iraq and the increasing political power and influence of Iran – it’s given a real scare to a lot of the Sunni world.
In any case, as an outsider (being an agnostic who wasn’t raised in either tradition), to me the claim that Islam passed Catholicism as the world’s largest religion rings false. I would classify Sunni and Shi’a as Muslims, and I would classify Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestant as Christian. The particular way it was spun is defensible, but it’s also questionable, and I would more expect it to be made by Muslims than the Catholic church. That’s all.
I just thought it was curious, that’s all.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of my Sunni relatives would ever want you to mistake them for Shi’ites.
Pretty bad misreading of Dawkins, too.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 14, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So which ones are the terrorists?
/has family with Northern Irish Roots
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by say hey nation on Oct 14, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who gives a Shi’ite, Sunni
Blehhh!
by Giant Homer on Oct 14, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it was a strategical thing from them. It was just the Church saying that theirs was the only real legitimate Christianity and since other sects disagreed, they weren’t the same thing (because of, you know, the wrongness)
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Oct 14, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
??
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 13, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
"BUSTER POSEY
HE SAVES PANDAS!" - sadison bummedgarner
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fool or troll?
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by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
False dichotomy – he could very well be a foolish troll.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 13, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
go banana!
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 13, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such a silly comment
Everyone knows soccer is a COMMUNIST sport, and Islam is opposed to communism.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There have been a few Muslim Communist countries. North Yemen, for one.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Checking....
First MCC mention of North Yemen! YES!
Fourth mention of Yemen.
The down side: it was South Yemen that was communist, not North Yemen. Dammit.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a “for two?”
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:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Afghanistan, but that wasn’t exactly a popularly installed government.
Albania.
Ethiopia and Somalia were both communist for a time, I think.
There might be a couple others in Africa.
Beyond that, there have been only been communist countries with significant Muslim populations, I think – Yugoslavia, China, and Russia.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ethiopia, I should point out, isn’t majority Muslim – it’s divided pretty evenly between Muslims, Christians, and traditional religions.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And as far as I know Albania is Muslim by a technicality. Not alot of practicing Muslims.
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by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it be impolite to point out that Afghanistan doesn
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 13, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it be impolite to point out that Afghanistan doesn't function as a nation at all?
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by Mayor of 311 on Oct 13, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was actually relatively stable before the USSR invaded.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it had a stable period, I should say.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But even then, it was not functioning as a unified nation.
Lots of tribes, no real government, that sort of thing.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... Maybe.
by Mayor of 311 on Oct 13, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like the united states used to be
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before the communists invaded?
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 13, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
before the northern euro’s invaded
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the heads up.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 13, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eat my turds.
Thanks!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 13, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it functions anything like your posting, its in a sorry state
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by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Muslims in China have never really stopped fighting against the communist government.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I know.
I don’t think the Muslims in the USSR were so happy either.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering, though
I know this is the case with the Uighurs, but what about the Hui?
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by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whenever I hear about the ‘Uighurs’ I picture Eminem and Vanilla Ice.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 14, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vanilla Ice has really let himself go
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by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a good thing Suge Knight didn’t let Vanilla Ice go.
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 15, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Hui are generally more accommodating than the Uighurs, but they have their gripes as well.
I believe a large portion of the population in Xi’an is Hui, which has periodic unrest but nothing like what happens in Xinjiang.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 14, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Comment
the analogy I was trying to draw is that of the Judeo-Christian Western Culture ostensibly being crushed in the face of the rapidly growing Islam-based cultures’ expansion. Not that I think one is any better than the other, but I’ve been born into the former, so I really must defend.
Thus, sarchasmically speaking, soccer is not for “us.”
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is stupid
soccer is a sport, not a religion or political movement. You sound like a xenophobe. “OH MY GOD THATS POPULAR SOMEWHERE ELSE GET IT AWAYYYYYY”
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Soccer is just the metric system in shorts.” – Anon.
by SnowLeopard on Oct 13, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to the 18-yard box.
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by bgunn on Oct 14, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s officially the 16.5-meter box. FIFA uses the metric system.
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:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 16, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except that Soccer is the most popular sport in the Judeo-Christian world.
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:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys are taking this just a smidge too seriously
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SOCCER IS SERIOUS
I’m just sick of ignorant people (not necessarily you) that think “oh, you can’t play with your hands” and “derrr they end in ties so soccer SUX!!! DERR” and don’t actually watch it. It’s fun to watch, especially in HD. MLS kinda sucks, but uefa and world cup is some of the best sport you’ll see.
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Takes a lot of skill and stamina to play
Quit hating because your ass probably can’t handle running up and down the pitch for 90 minutes straight
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by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soccer is a KILLER
I love playing with people who enjoy it. So much skill involved
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, soccer plays can get panties to drop just by saying, “I’m a soccer player.”
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe not here
but anywhere else, shyeah
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s what basketball is for
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basketball is only 48 minutes (or 40 in college). And there are quite a few stoppages. Nice try though.
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by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol ok
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, remember that game Lincecum pitched in terrible heat, and everyone freaked out because he lost like 3 pounds in a game? Soccer player lose something like 5-6 pounds every single game.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just don’t see what any of this has to do with baseball
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NEWS FLASH
we don’t always ONLY talk about baseball here. Are you new or something?
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bondslegend? can i pull you aside and punch you in da hands so you can stop typing? CHILL, haha
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
meet me behind the stadium dude u r 5
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
u r outnumbered….dude
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not what my GUNS tell me
/preens
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/thought we were on a dude-to-dude basis
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am, but we need to just be straight here, i’ll see bondslegend first, and i can’t wait to have that “chat” with him
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT - you're into weather...
Is the storm in the bay area over, or is another one coming in?
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by ringleader3 on Oct 13, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
cause im seeing blue skys out over the water ( i live on the westside of town ) and I thought this was gonna go on longer
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 13, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, you’re straight, this was a very fast storm because it followed the jet stream. But it was just a very powerful punch in the face
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
supposed to tail off tomorrow, then return to normal sunny cali october
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love October, November weather in the Bay
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool. but if you get caught under the weight of his deformed arm, lemme know
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is totally what I look like
you can call my girlfriend the model. She’s outta the country right now though so her phone doesn’t work. I’ll totally kick your ass
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BARROID BONDS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And everyone thought I was just an angry person
ROID RAGE
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG, LOL LOLLOLOLOLOLOL
newsflash, UR NOT FUNNY ANYMORE DUDE!
NOT…. i r lying
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need ot see a doctor about that.
by chilibean_3 on Oct 13, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is that where your bicep and tricep used to be?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bork’s head went into his arm?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if you don't like futbol(soccer)
The fact is that one person died and one, maybe two are seriously injured, with a brilliant career potentially cut short.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Oct 13, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t realize Davies was part of my alma mater. Reports are saying the injuries are not life threatening, though they don’t know the extent of his injuries.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potentially career ending though.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Oct 13, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turkey sandwich with avacado and swiss. Feel better now GGF? Twit.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
WTF?
"BUSTER POSEY
HE SAVES PANDAS!" - sadison bummedgarner
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 13, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really a big match tomorrow
Already clinched the WC. Unless you are talking about them getting a seed in the WC, not much to play for. Very sad news, nonehteless. I hope he is okay and makes a speedy recovery.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 13, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just meant they have a chance to get the number one spot, thus getting the most favorable matchup out of CONCACAF. It’s not huge, but still pretty important.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by giants9107 on Oct 13, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think this is right but I’m going off limited knowledge. They could possibly get a seed but being #1 doesn’t guarantee that seed. Seed is based off of past two WC appearances and some other ranking info I believe. I believe US finished #1 in qualifying for the last WC but Mexico got seeded (thus easier group) based on the ranking formula. This could be all wrong, doing it from memory, but I think it’s pretty close to correct.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 13, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible news. Get well fast CD.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
Will Posey have to hit .700 in the AFL to even get a look in the spring?
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs to hit 1.000
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that’s when Sabean pulls the “batting average is not a perfect measure of an offensive players’ aptitude” and promptly trades Posey for Scott Linebrink and Matt Thornton.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LINEBRINK & THORNTON???
WUT A STEEL
DATS Y WE RESINED HIM!
Proud member of the "Don't Trade Marleau" Club
by jwizzle241 on Oct 13, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
He needs to hit 1.500.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/no baseball today :(
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love SBN's headline
Giants’ Bochy, Sabean Rewarded With Extensions Despite Inept Offense
They misspell McCovey, though.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what were their batting averages?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.239 for Bochy.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but he walks a lot
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enh. .298 OBP. That’s only walking a lot by post-Bonds Giants standards.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm, that begs the question: who’s noggin is larger, bochy or bonds?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the refrigerator for a beer. Or two.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, this is, like, the mother of all bay area october storms!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
even my dog is holding it rather than go outside
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, you can talk about non-baseball stuff too.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
omgomgomg
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s OK guys, Sabean is getting smarter!
by ryanmiles on Oct 13, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh I know
/points at sig
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 13, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the 23rd century, he might be able to assemble an above average offense.
Meet my new son: Sundrendy Windster, on the Curacao-SF express (via Arizona).
by EliminateMe on Oct 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the fuck is glad they're both back?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
not both, but I’m fine with the big headed one
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that makes no sense
/bochy hits winn third again
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should both go. I had to think a bit about Sabean, but he’s the one that is responsible for this terrible LOLINEUP in the first place.
"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent
by Yoyo on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sabean—still living off that Kent trade
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OGC says that Sabean knows hitting talent……….after all, he was the one who found Jeter & Posada.
Why isn't Sabean held accountable for leading the Giants into many years of mediocrity???
by oldrips on Oct 13, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to give Bochy a chance with some real hitters to use, rather than having to select from a large group of pretty much equally mediocre’s
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol ok
he had decent hitters, and he sat them on the bench for veterans who weren’t as good.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m fine with it too. Was Alou better? Dusty? I just saw Girardi bench a Posada for Jose Molina, just to make the pitcher feel more comfortable. That’s way, way, worse than anything Bochy has ever done, And I’m a Fred Lewis fan.
Nobody likes managers. If they knew how to evaluate players they’d be GM’s.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d imagine pretty much everyone would agree that Roger Craig was better, at least.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think highly of Craig, too, but his record is very similar to Bochy’s, right around .500 and one pennant.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but there was no where the size or depth of a talent hole Craig had to overcome. It wasn’t just veterans did not what to come play in SF they, by and large, wanted out and were not being shy about it. And the Farm had not produced much in the decade before (Jack Clark & Larry Herndon being the high lights) in the way of position players. Toss in the uncertainly of if the team might be moved ( always a specter tell the mid 90’s) and really Bochy should be kicking Craig’s arse.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Craig also (gasp!) played young position players in key games and situations and didn’t bury them behind slumping veterans. Shocking, I know.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
slightly O.T.
My favorite Craig quote. “It takes a good pitcher to lose 20 games in a season.”
First time I heard that one it totally locked up my mind. Then the more I thought on it the more it makes sense.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I always appreciated that one, too.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 14, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
reminds me of a Stalin quote
“It takes a very brave man to NOT become a Hero of the Soviet Union”
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 14, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Yes. Dusty was fukkin insufferable. Bork, for all of his vet love, is miles less vet-love-y.
My favorite situations are when you have a smart GM, and he tells the field manager when he’s doing something way whack.
by SnowLeopard on Oct 13, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whaddya mean? Dusty was da man even before there was da man
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As has been pointed out
Shinjo DJ, Lofton CF. World series.
Another charming memory from that World Series is that he (and Rags) set up their rotation all wrong – they put the two fastballers followed by the two control guys, rather than going back and forth. I am convinced that’s a big part of what cost us the series. As I commented at the time :
by SnowLeopard on Oct 14, 2009 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shinjo = not DJ
I meant “DH”.
(Although I suspect the Dapper Japanese has DJed at some point).
by SnowLeopard on Oct 14, 2009 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was Alou better?
Yes
El Presidente Larry Baer's epitaph
"Nothing important ever happened without me."
by ResDog on Oct 13, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At what?
Not the pitching end of things, that’s for damn sure.
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Get Brower up”
“Felipe, it’s 2009. You’re not a manager, Brower’s not a Giant, and there isn’t a game today.”
“Get. Brower. Up.”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Oct 14, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL! I love this joke every time.
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 14, 2009 5:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you think is the effect of not signing a GM and manager? Like, how much time does it take for a new GM to install his own system, go through the scouts he wants to keep or fire, roster review, etc…?
by Mrbasepaul on Oct 13, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sabean did an assload of stuff his first season. Of course, he was already in the organization and the transfer was planned long in advance.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably three years
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so it’d take 3 years to really get a new system going? I guess we’d still probably be much better off with a new philosophy/system in 3 years than a Sabean system now and in 3 years…sucks. There is no hope
by Mrbasepaul on Oct 13, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s got the track record to prove you right
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
About that arrogance...
Didn’t Sabean just get quoted as saying that he keeps getting smarter (with regards to baseball) every year?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Oct 13, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this would be a fine statement
if we had any indication that it was actually true.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 13, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s some pretty strong evidence. For example, he hasn’t signed Neifi Perez for YEARS.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
he let Edgardo Alfonzo walk
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edgar Renteria.
I rest my case.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 13, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i fell into the sarchasm a little bit there, huh?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 13, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dipped your toes a bit
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Oct 13, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
deep chasm
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no WAAAAY Sabean would let a player take a walk.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, despite the temptation, Sabean DIDN’T give Oil Can Boyd a chance to come out of retirement with the Giants.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunston wouldn't have!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
by hairball on Oct 13, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Dunston becomes the new hitting coach after Lansford is let go, we all know that fixing the OBP is a crock of shit.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 13, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OBP is merely window dressing, there for “artistic value.” THAT"S NOT HOW YOU WIN GAMEZ.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote a big "meh"
Who would you guys have liked to replace Sabean and Bochy?
Bobby Evans to be GM? Towers?
Who instead of Bochy? (“Anyone” doesn’t work as an answer)
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d prefer giving a shot to an internal candidate like Ron Wotus or Steve Decker to extending Bochy.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Wotus
He has actually won a championship
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
head to hat ratio fits Bochy’s
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“All this hacking is making me thirsty. I think I’ll order a Tab.” <hits ‘Tab’ key>
“This is all YOUR fault!” <Homer to perpetual bird after radioactive meltdown begins
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This pic makes me think of the Simpsons episode when Homer was trying to go on disabilty by becoming obese.
Tommy Joseph is the Dingerzball Wizard
by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryanmiles seems to think so too!
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
Mr. F! | comics | art | New Nattowear | Unofficial McImage Directory
by Natto on Oct 13, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HUGE BIRD BALLSACK!
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 13, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby V
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Oct 13, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DePodesta was pretty good with the Dodgers, though unpopular. All his FA signings were good (the Lowe signing was fantastic), and his trades were pretty solid. And, I mean, seriously, read this (He’s talking about a recent Padres’ trade):
We believe Baek is a very good strike-thrower with all of his pitches (Fastball, Curveball, Slider, and Change), which keeps hitters off balance and makes him effective. Our scouts also believe that he pitched a little better than his ERA would indicate from last year. According to the FIP statistic, a defense-independant statistic developed by Tom Tango and utilized by The Hardball Times, Baek had been getting better in each of his past three ML seasons (2004-2007), which goes hand-in-hand with our scouting evaluations.
This is smarter than anything I’ve heard Sabean say. Ever.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, really, “hand-in-hand” is a turn of phrase Sabean should be all over.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would’ve been A-OK with DePodesta replacing Sabean.
"BUSTER POSEY
HE SAVES PANDAS!" - sadison bummedgarner
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 13, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LA Sports people say:
STUPIDESTA!!!! HARHARHARHAR
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Jed Hoyer as GM
a lot more than sabes. But Hoyer is probably going to SD
Grab Some Pine Meat!
by Gobroks on Oct 13, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the worry I have with DePodesta is
that he’s not good in everything else that a GM is required to do.
by DrStankus on Oct 14, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There could be a manager out there by the name of “Anyone.”
"BUSTER POSEY
HE SAVES PANDAS!" - sadison bummedgarner
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 13, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anne Won?
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Annie Whonn.
"BUSTER POSEY
HE SAVES PANDAS!" - sadison bummedgarner
His name's Clayton, not Danny.
by walkoff baltimore chop on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who’s on first?
Who’s managing the team?
by chilibean_3 on Oct 13, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
N.E. 1
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's next?
Fire Lansford, or sign N. Johnson so he can teach the team “how to walk”?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Oct 13, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds like Lansford is gone already
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by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t see how that guy keeps his job
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
because the shitty hitting isn’t his fault.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 13, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably true, but firing the hitting coach when the hitting stuff is What Baseball Teams Do.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they also fire shitty managers and GMs, but not the Giants!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 13, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will be more interesting to see what Neukom does if the Giants struggle this year and say hover around .500 and don’t make the playoffs. If Neukom still won’t fire Sabean and Bochy, then fuck Neukom, but otherwise I think its fine to see what happens this year
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by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this scenario really puts Giants fans in an untenable position. I really hope the team lucks out and can overcome all of the personnel and managing mistakes, but I also want a GM and manager who CAN take an up and coming team to the next level, which will only happen if the team loses too much.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 13, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recognize a boss without chutzpah
Neukom is professionally impotent. He won’t ever fire those idiots.
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by hairball on Oct 13, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One similar situation I can think of
In 1996, the Giants fired Bobby Bonds because the hitters were striking out too much, but they kept Dusty and Bob Quinn (and when Quinn retired, they gave the job to his assistant, Brian Sabean).
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Barry being livid his father was fired.
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by SFGuy on Oct 13, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At one point after the season, he demanded a trade. Later he rescinded the demand (and Matt Williams was traded to shed payroll instead).
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he was going to be traded for Garett anderson
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or the Mets’ pu-pu platter.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 13, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, they fire losing managers...
…whether they’re good or not. And keep ones who win.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s the closest to the bad hitting, other than the players
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather fire the players, but if you’re saying that’s just what is gonna happen regardless, then I agree. the Giants are clearly stupid.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Oct 13, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Baggs
The coaching staff is another matter. It hasn’t been discussed yet, but will be an immediate topic now that Sabean and Bochy are in the fold. Bochy said he hasn’t spoken to his coaches yet. It’s expected most will return, although as discussed here yesterday, hitting coach Carney Lansford doesn’t expect to be invited back.
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by Natto on Oct 13, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't blame him.
I mean, talk about a frustrating job:
Carney: “Hey, Bengie… Aaron… I’d like you to try taking a pitch in your next at-bat. Just one each. See how it feels.”
Bengie: /whiff… /GIDP
Aaron: /whiff… /whiff… /whiff
Carney: “Ohhhhkaaaayy… Maybe we’ll try taking a pitch tomorrow.”
Bengie: “¿Quién eres?”
Carney: /sigh
It’s too bad. Carney Lansford was my favorite Athletic way back when.
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 13, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLB FOR HITTING COACH!!!
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by SoFa King Mike on Oct 13, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What scares me is that Neukom thought it was a good idea to re-sign Bochy and Sabean. A bad enough season will get one or both of them fired, but we’re stuck with Neukom indefinitely. Hopefully the extensions aren’t a foreshadowing of Neukom’s future actions, but I’m worried.
by imovermyhead on Oct 13, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the guy in charge of the Orioles is a big time lawyer, too. Hopefully, the similiarities end there.
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly there’s not a soul in the Giants FO who has a fucking clue. Not one. The powers that be ran Magowan off, correctly, and then replaced him with another clueless (basebally speaking) dolt.
This franchise is fucked for years to come. Fucked in every orifice and at every level.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds kind of sexy, when you put it that way
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as it’s consensual, agreed.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
I don’t see any way around it.
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by hairball on Oct 13, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Small victory?
I said this in the other thread, but I’ll repeat it here: this may not actually be all doom and gloom. Given the success the team had in the standings this year, I think Sabean and Bochy were both pretty much destined to come back. The fact that they only got a 2 year deal each is pretty much the strongest “meh” vote that Neukom could issue. Think about it— if he was really convinced that these guys were the answer, they’d probably get 5 year deals after the turnaround season we just had (at least in terms of bare wins and losses). The two year deals, to me, almost screams “I’m not sure you guys are that great, and if you suck next year I want to be able to fire you without paying you for a long long time after that.”
So maybe what we should hope for is either:
A) Sabean learns the error of his offense-building ways and Bochy learns to keep creaky veterans on the bench (unlikely on both counts), or
B) Sabean royally screws up this offseason, figuring he’s really close to contention, signs a bunch of hacktastic players to short term deals. The offense gets worse, the pitching regresses a bit and Neukom axes them both next offseason.
Worse, more likely scenarios:
C) We contend again next season because the pitching is still great but the offense takes a slight step forward, either because we throw money at Holliday/Bay or somebody wises up and tells Bochy that Posey has to start from Day 1 (or both). Yet on the whole, nothing, in terms of player evaluation, changes. Bochy and Sabean are retained.
D) Sabean signs aforementioned hacktastic players to gruesome, long term deals. The offense sucks, Sabes and Bork are fired, but the new GM has to deal with a hamstrung payroll for the next decade.
Personally, at the moment, I think D is the most likely, but I’m gonna hope for B. We all pretty much know A isn’t gonna happen.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 13, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If your point that the two year deal is a meh vote from Neukom, I don’t see D as an option. Why would he allow Sabean to sign players to expensive long term deals if he doesn’t have that much faith in Sabean to sign him long term?
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 13, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a good point— other than the top couple of guys I doubt we’ll be giving away any long, long term deals. But still, I think it’s highly likely that Neukom would allow 3-4 year deals to some questionable hitters which would still hamstring the payroll potentially beyond the Sabean regime.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 13, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is all moot
Neukom does not seem to have the skills necessary to recognize failure at teh baseballz.
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by hairball on Oct 13, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From a rosterbation point of view, I would also like to add that a part of me is definitely hoping we do overspend on Holliday because I think it would be great to have a, theoretically, non-laughable heart of the order. Seriously, Holliday-Sandoval-Posey batting 3-4-5 would probably not be awful, indeed, it might even be pretty good.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 13, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Posey will not be a starter next year, at least not the first part of the season
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by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why it's called rosterbation
but he should be starting.
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by boonitez on Oct 13, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the end of the year.
Utter frustration and futility.
by Johnny Disaster on Oct 13, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, he should be dammit
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 13, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t mine a run at Holliday. But I also don’t see Bochy batting Posey anywhere above 7, at least to start the season. He barely wanted to play the kid at the end of the year, he’s not going to go from that to batting 5th in the off-season.
by AngelWillSaveUs on Oct 13, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn’t mean to imply it would happen anywhere other than in my head. that’s the whole point of rosterbation— it’s pointless. if it wasn’t, predictions would be fun.
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by Smoke on the Water on Oct 13, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over under on a Holliday run?
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Oct 13, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love to have Posey hitting in the bottom end of the order for a while. Then begin to move him up the lineup once he gets some ABs under his belt. Problem is though that with the craptistic players that will be in the lineup card everyday, he probably would be in the are you mentioned in the lineup and asked of a lot right away, assuming he starts with the club in ’10.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 13, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMGLOL AT ALL THE BOCHY DEFENDERS ON THIS SITE!!!!!1
Huh?
WHY IS BOCOCK?!
by Lars The Wanderer on Oct 13, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Careful, I said the same thing and was told no one is actually defending Bochy. I guess we should be paying more attention…
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Psst
Sarchasm. I’m pretty sure he’s actually making fun of you.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really do defend bochy
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarchasm yes. But, not directed at Lars.
chilibean_3 says: Cybermaldonado, "I don’t think you understand anything. Anything at all." Stay classy chilibean my friend.
by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, so it was an attack directed at me. I’m the only one who is completely off base in my reading of the Mccoven. That poll at the top of the page where %33 are in favor of the Sabean signing in no way supports my assertions.
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I meant %33 support Bochy not Sabean.
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that case…greatgiantsfan is pro-Bochy. A few people, like Cookyman, are pretty much, “enh, most managers suck anyway.”
It’s not exactly a groundswell of support.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I voted C. I just don’t see anyone better out there. As painful it is to admit, most managers would probably bench Lewis for Velez.
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just feel that there is a lot of “oh, well” resigned attitude about the Bochy signing. To me that is a “groundswell of support” compared to what Bochy deserves.
It’s merely a matter of context really. I’m not saying anyone actually think Bochy deserves the extension, I just thought the reaction to it was very tepid. Understandably people are much more disturbed by the Sabean extension and I imagine Bochy will receive more attention after the shock from that wears off.
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we’ve been ranting and raving about Bochy all year. And beyond. This news provoked a resigned response because we’ve known it was coming for some time.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD I FUCKING HATE BRUCE BOCHY
is that angry enough? I been sayin it all year
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Err, looks like actually 33 people not %. I have the flu and my head is a bit foggy atm.
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you add the people who like both to the people who like Bochy but not Sabean, it is about 33%.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
23%, actually.
Mostly lurkers, I’m guessing. I haven’t seen anyone in this thread be pro-Sabean.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted pro-Sabean, anti-Bochey
I’m not a huge fan of Sabean, I’m kinda meh about him. What he does with the team this off season will greatly affect my opinion of him.
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by boonitez on Oct 13, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ll defend bochy. Defend!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa
Matt Cain: throwing complete game shutouts since 06'. No big deal.
by cain1rstballothof on Oct 13, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I defend Neukom but not Bochy or Sabean. Is that ok?
preemptive:
/ducks
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by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
bizzaro defend?
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by cain1rstballothof on Oct 13, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bork is my least favorite meme. It’s gonna be a long 2 years.
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by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This poll has potential to be the most lopsided in the history of MCC…and right it should.
by W8ingForATitle on Oct 13, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How local Phoenix sports radio announced the news:
“Sabean and Bochy were both signed to two year extensions despite the fact that the Giants have missed the playoffs the last 6 seasons”
Even other sports markets – at least within the Division – are perplexed by this signing.
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its a stupid signing
no reason not to be perplexed
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted happy with Bochy, unhappy with Sabean
I don’t think that field managers affect the outcome of the game very much in either direction, and the players seem to love him.
It’s the nature of managing that you get crucified for your bad decisions and get zero credit for your good ones. Sometimes I think the McCoven would scream and foam over anyone who put on the Giants’ manager’s uniform – not because they are doing a horrible job, but because complaining about managers is easy.
Add in the fact that the team outperformed everybody’s expectations this year and I am not sad he’s coming back next year. Hell, I like him more than Baker and much more than Alou.
On Sabean
I wouldn’t be sad at all if he got canned; I think that Brian Sabean is an extremely mediocre GM. I’m just worried we’d get someone even worse.
by sfmaynard on Oct 13, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
here you go, cybermaldonado, have at him.
Please hit better, Randy Winn.
by oldjacket on Oct 13, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? everyone is entitled to an opinion- as long as it’s consistent.
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
I think Roger Craig was pretty great.
I think Dusty Baker had glaring flaws, but also gets too much blame.
I had too much respect for Felipe Alou’s past to ever really hate him.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My memory is hazy for many reasons, but I don’t seem to recall the previous three managers willfully playing bad players when they had better options. I’m happy to be mostly wrong about that statement, btw.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t think of any examples with Craig (maybe because it’s been a while), but with Dusty you can point to things like Shinjo DH and Lofton CF. With Alou the issues were mostly to do with bullpen management and being old and tired.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineups and bullpen management are a manager’s chief concern, obviously, but that’s one type of decision. Then there’s not playing younger players when veterans are struggling, a refusal to try something different — too much “the savvy vet you know” thing with Bochy. Dusty had that, too, but it’s not like he had better options during his tenure with the Giants… if memory serves.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aurilia sat on the bench for longer than a lot of us wanted. Plus they had guys like Russ Davis to share time with Bill Mueller, but a lot of that’s down to Sabean, not Baker.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. I’m not saying the other managers were great, I’m not even saying Bochy’s awful, but in his case, he’s actually blocking a couple of guys at positions where the Giants could use more production, and the contempt for going with youth (by the front office and obviously on the field) is staggering. You only win if you score runs, and the Giants don’t seem to want to do that. Dusty Baker would kill a pitcher to score a run. I think he even did that a couple of times. Actually killed a guy who was pitching, thinking the umpire would reward the Giants with a run.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alou murdered our bullpen.
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
Did Alou handle Montreal’s bullpen the same way? I always thought he was a pretty good manager with the Expos. Of course, I didn’t watch them every day.
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by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have Bochy over Alou, no question.
by Grant on Oct 13, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by scout6 on Oct 13, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d rather have mussolini over hitler, no question
by capn on Oct 13, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stalin, easily. Mainly killed his own people.
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by scout6 on Oct 13, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if you count Ukrainians is “his own people”, which you shouldn’t.
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by Cookyman on Oct 16, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically he was Georgian, so Russians weren’t really his people either.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
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by groug on Oct 16, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is funny, since he lead the Russian invasion of Georgia, and the subsequent oppression of its people, including the execution of over 10,000 dissidents.
Well, not “ha ha funny.”
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by Cookyman on Oct 16, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alou played every game like it was the playoffs. It blew up the bullpen, but imo it lead to a lot of early wins. And it seemed like Sabes did a decent job of obtaining new guys for him.
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by ResDog on Oct 13, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Dusty wasn’t the greatest with the pitching staff, but he sure could draw good hungry players to the Giants; remember, for about 15 years, nobody wanted to play here.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Sabean, nobody wants to play in San Francisco. Not ever.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s funny (not really), because the Craig/Baker years started a trend in which the Giants could draw players here for LESS than they might get elsewhere! And that was in Candlestick. Very ironic.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has the benefit of providing the mediocre GM with coverage in the event that he fails to secure an impact bat.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Players seem to love him"
Do others share this impression of Bochy? I’ve never gotten much impression that the players either like or dislike him that strongly. Dusty definitely seemed to have a bond with his players, but I just don’t see that with Bochy.
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by EliminateMe on Oct 13, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From SFGiants.com:
Lincecum endorsed Bochy’s return.
“I hope he comes back because I like playing under him and he gives me and a lot of players the freedom to be themselves in here,” Lincecum said. “That has been a key to why we’ve been so good.”
Rich Aurilia, the veteran infielder who has spent 11 of his 14 Major League seasons with the Giants, supported the Sabean-Bochy team.
“We’ve performed way better than expectations,” Aurilia said. “If you’re basing them coming back on what we’ve done, of course they deserve to be back. I’ve known Brian for 15 years and I know he wants nothing more than to win. Every move that he makes is designed to help this team win. Some work, some don’t. But the thought put into them is to help us win. Boch has won before and I’m sure he’s going to win again.”
Sabean became San Francisco’s general manager on Sept. 30, 1996. The Giants have reached the postseason or a Wild Card playoff berth five times under his leadership, all between 1997-2003.
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 13, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course Aurilia would support it, only those two wanted him.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 14, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he gives me and a lot of players the freedom to be themselves in here
“He won’t bench the hitters who refuse to work a count, no matter how beneficial it would be to the team.”
/translated
Schadendodgerfreude 2009!
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Oct 14, 2009 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, if every other year is a drama, with highs and lows, gut-wrenching, game-changing moments, then can we all agree that the next few years (no way that option isn’t exercised) is a comedy?
I know I’ll be watching every game with a sense of humor, as each hilarious, sitcomish moment unfolds on screen.
Bochy: “Edgar, did you ground into a double play AGAIN?”
Renteria: “At least I made contact.”
Lincecum: (sulks) “And here I am trying to make ‘em swing n’ miss.”
(Laugh track, applause)
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
at least the pitching’s gonna stay good and if we do sign like.. matt holliday or jason bay then as long as holliday doesn’t do that stunt he did for the cardinals i think this team might be all right…. that is IF we add any offensive support
by MC Hang on Oct 13, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The ol’ not catching a line drive stunt Classic.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s Bay’s defense you should worry about, not Holliday’s.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering how poorly the Giants hit, if the Giants get an above average hitter, I would be willing to take a player whose defense isn’t so great.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 13, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
When you commit to pitching and defense, it’s because a part of you (a substantial part) knows that your team sucks and you’re hoping to get lucky by making as few mistakes as possible. In a sport that is mostly comprised of failure and mistakes, this seems like an argument based on a fallacy.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You say that now…
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 13, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Christina Kahrl mentioned in her BP chat that starting Lewis in LF would improve the offense and defense. Am I missing something? I live in LA, so, I don’t watch every game, but when I do, and when Fred plays, there’s usually some defensive butterfingery going on with him.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right about the ‘butterfingery’. Many feel that despite that, Fred is a better than average defender due to his good speed and range. It’s a matter of debate.
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by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like range and speed. Catching might be a concentration issue. Also, he might just be a bad fielder. His speed doesn’t really help him in terms of base stealing, though. He doesn’t seem to fast there. Maybe that’s a concentration thing, too. I don’t know. But is Fred at the age where he can learn/relearn? I know the Giants think learnin’ is for pussies or A’s, so maybe Sabean should just trade Fred Lewis for Lenny DiNardo and be done with it.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Good” is an exaggeration. “Better than most LFers, who are, at large, terrible fielders,” is a better way to put it.
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
“above average hitter” and “not great defense” cancels each other out. You need to be a pretty great hitter to make up for bad defense.
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they’re both adequate
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-DE-QUATE! A-DE-QUATE! A-DE-QUATE!
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The trouble with Bay is, will his offense still be adequate to cover his defensive issues in 3-4 years?
I don’t think it will be.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was a huge upgrade in the field over Ramirez for the Red Sox.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
b/c Ramirez was trying to play himself out of Boston!
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great. So all we need to do is raise the wall in left field.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CHEVRON MONSTER!
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by scout6 on Oct 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So would a cardboard box.
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my hunch is that adding even just one excellent hitter would change everything for this team.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did in late 2008 – Pablo Sandoval.
We still had about the worst offense in the game.
/sobs
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those within reach of KNBR (or listen to KNBR.com)
Bork will be on with Ralph and Tom at 4 PM.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rainy Day + Bork Drone + Ralph + Tom’s silence = instaNap
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should be a – Ralph in that equation
by esseffgeez on Oct 13, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if I subtract Ralph from that equation, then I might not fall asleep.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if you add Ralph you’ll be too annoyed with the sycophantic “richly deserved” crap to fall asleep
by esseffgeez on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like Ralphs voice, it’s different and makes me laugh a few times
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does make me want to eat pizza, too.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw that. Wish I didn’t have a meeting to go to. How did Baggs’ interview go?
by esseffgeez on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baggs’ interview was fine. Didn’t say anything new. Doesn’t see Bay or Holliday coming to SF. Giants won’t have THAT much money to work with. Giants will hope for Bowker or someone of the like to come through for the team next year
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. So pretty much what he posted last night.
by esseffgeez on Oct 13, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Sabes goes after Dye.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 13, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
Brian Sabean wants to kick tires. I want to kick Brian Sabean.
Adopted Giant: FREDEMPTION Lewis
by jcb9 on Oct 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dye and 3 years of Fred Sanchez. and 2 of Molinia ….
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 13, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowker: 100 at bats to prove himself. Starting in Winterball
"Being a McCoven is like being a member of the Green party. It’s powerlessness is part of the appeal." - oldjacket
by scout6 on Oct 13, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, obviously, barring a miracle wherein they trade Zito or Rowand or Renteria and free up some payroll.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
borefest. although I do defend Bochy as a manager, he is boring as shit to listen to.
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m not your jerk, buddy
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh you barked off the wrong tree since i’m not your buddy, BOCHY
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m not yer bochy….hey, it’s broken
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ralph currently kissing ass. Shocker.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew he was going to be on so I turned off the radio.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 13, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to like Ralph, but now....
Fuck him.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t stand him. I’m only listening right now because my tv is broken.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he licks ass to an unforgivable extreme.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or else you’ll be fired… i dunno, i’m not a big fan of him, but i do like Mr. T
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
something bad happened to Ralph after the Giants got good
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He really doesn’t know that much. He interviews people and then forgets what they said an hour later.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, i heard that happens when you age…. or something like that
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to Ralph fellate Freddie Sanchez over the air is pretty tough.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That interview was awful. He was on his jock so hard.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I remember when KNBR hired him and I was a big fan of his for many years after he got the chance to have his own show. Now I can’t bear to listen to him anymore.
chilibean_3 says: Cybermaldonado, "I don’t think you understand anything. Anything at all." Stay classy chilibean my friend.
by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here. ’specially after I heard him boasting about his $600 power bill
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he’s always sick; WTF?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The day the season ended years and years ago...
I called in and talked about how the Giants needed to add Vlad Guerrero so teams would pitch to Barry.
Ralph shot me down hard, said it was a waste of money.
Less than a month later, he’s using my exact argument against a caller.
I was done.
by dprodigy19 on Oct 13, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won’t want to lose all those Bork interviews for the next 2 season!
YOU EAT YOUR DAMN EGGROLL
by heimy25 on Oct 13, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two more years of the Bruce Bochy show! Jon Miller must be thrilled.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny.
/autodefenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
Young Studs for Old Bats: The Brian Sabean Story
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by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t understood a word Bochy said thus far. Fuzzy Flu Head + Bork = huh?
chilibean_3 says: Cybermaldonado, "I don’t think you understand anything. Anything at all." Stay classy chilibean my friend.
by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You apparently have a natural bullshit filter
Consider yourself fortunate.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness I have the swine flu right now so I can’t understand Bochy.
chilibean_3 says: Cybermaldonado, "I don’t think you understand anything. Anything at all." Stay classy chilibean my friend.
by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AHHHHHH I HEARD THAT'S TRANSMITABLE OVER THE INTERNET
ALSO THE VACCINE WILL KILL YOU AND MELT YOUR INSIDES!!!!!!!
/MEDIA PANICCCC
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, my roommates girlfriend MIGHT have it, and hence my girlfriend wont come over to hang out because of that
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SWINE BLOCKED
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by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pork Blocked?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 13, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I am a student here
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I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was kinda depressed, so i told her, “aight, see you in January” since she’s so worried about my roommate getting the swine
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bork
Bork Want to watch Bork walks Bork go watch a mailman Bork Randy Winn Bork Classiness Bork 3 hitter Bork Bengie Molina Bork extension Bork.
This signing makes me very angry. I really am confused right now
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In the locker room after practice confused or how did the lead singer of Counting Crows bag Emmy Rossum confused?
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confused as in
where is my shotgun confused?
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing to be confused about...
The Giants FO is inhabited by people with a baseball IQ slightly lower than Kermit the Frog.
The Giants Franchise is fucked, and not only a little, but fucked right up the ass with a giant, red hot, razor sharp dildo.
We, as fans, are fucked for still being fans of this bullshit, gutless, worthless franchise.
Hail Giants, full of fail, the Bork is with thee.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
but I thought Neuokom was supposed to be smart? A 5 year old could figure out that Sabean needs to live.
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 5 year old could figure out that Sabean needs to live.
R U 5?
:~)
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Positives:
- Giants have the ability to scout/sign pitching. Up until Madison Bumgarner and Tim Lincecum late in the season, the org seemed to be able to magically give pitchers an extra couple of mphs on their fastballs. (MadBum and Lincecum could just be tired, I recognize that).
- Beautiful stadium.
Negatives:
- Anything else you can think of.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woohoo Beautifal Stadium!
Boo bork:(
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
They have the ability to draft pitchers in the first round.
It’s not like this team has had a ton of sleeper pitchers besides this season.
by dprodigy19 on Oct 13, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that interview was a whole lot of nothing.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At least Bork made contact, put the ball in play.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a dribbler to the mound, but that’s about it.
FREE BUSTER POSEY
by djp4cal on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’d be better if he walked.
You can't solve your problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems - Albert Einstein to Brian Sabean
by bgunn on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go watch a mailman
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walks are merely there for artistic value.
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, that is exactly the only thing I understood from what Bochy said
made contact, put the ball in play
chilibean_3 says: Cybermaldonado, "I don’t think you understand anything. Anything at all." Stay classy chilibean my friend.
by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's up for
Garrett Anderson next year?
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL You and bondslegend both post about Anderson at the same time
I R 5
by say hey nation on Oct 13, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that too :)
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
High five!
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Tolbert
“The Giants had to bring in over 30 players and sign them to 3 and 4 year contracts, but that’s all over now”
Edgar
Molina
Rownads
Winn
Tom….Pull your head out of your ass.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he knows no baseball
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a former basketball player dude
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/like’s being addressed as “dude”
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, i pretty much address anybody “dude”
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude! me too!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sweet!
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got a tattoo that says Dude, what’s mine say?
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey dude, hey dude, what's mine say
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SWEET!
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does mine say?
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that case, since I'm not a brain surgeon
I’ll get my own radio show discussing the nuances of brain surgery, just so you can call in and tell me how great I am.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but you are not a former basketball player
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I played
In high school
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA! k, question for you then, did you score points?
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't score points
but I “scored” a lot of other things! HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you score me some weed……..dude?
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What else can you score? CHICKS???? AWWW YEA CHIX!!!!
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was crap.
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine
If I were a really crappy baseball player I could be the Giants manager
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Tracy was a fabulous ball player too ya know
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fabulous like Omar?
I know you nerds know NOTHING about the real game of baseball, or any other athletic endeavor requiring teamwork under physical stress.
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by Natto on Oct 13, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he still wastes many words on the subject
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the Giants “had to” — AND WHY IS THAT???
by Every6thDay on Oct 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Tom’s head is up Ralph’s ass.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/Rosterbates furiously
My projected team. (Note: CAIN 4 FEILDER not included)
C Molina
1B Sandoval
2B Sanchez
SS Renteria
3B Uribe
LF Jermaine Dye
CF Scott Rowand (lol)
RF Velez
Bench
C Whiteside
1B Garko/Ishi
OF Torres
IF Counsell
Rotation
Lincecum
Cain
Sanchez
Zito
Duchscherer
Pen
Wilson
Affeldlt
Romo
Howry
Medders
Runzler
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oblig LOL FRED
I don't know anything about minor league players, so I adopted the Coke Bottle, and it's totally grown on me.
'The longer I do this the smarter I get' --Brian Sabean
by ringleader3 on Oct 13, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ve rosterbated too much today, i need a break, from it, too much Renteria, OMG
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t you learn in high school health class that one of the possible outcomes of regular rosterbation is that you might be get Renteria?
/auto-defenestrates
something something jhiat00 will swindle
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FREE KEVIN FRANDSEN!!! Member of the Frandsen 5% Club.
by Uribe nee Gonzalez on Oct 14, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard it prevents prostate cancer
by PiKAgiant on Oct 14, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It can leave prostate in a corner though.
Who’s brain did you bring me?
Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 14, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet that's really close
Personally, I’m more upset about the renaissance of the mohawk.--Alex_Lewis
Everybody should at least fake a bunt sometime during the at-bat--Tweedledumb
by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 13, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is really depressing to read
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, deserved all-star and hacker extraordinaire
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
by bondslegend on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was depressed typing it :(
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I DON'T KNOW DUDE, CAN YOU?
Praying that Tim Alderson doesn't come back to bite us
by MadBum on Oct 13, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oooo, so today all my professor talked about in class was how awesome LA was was since she lived there for a while, so i asked, “Then why do we always talk about it in a natural hazards class?”
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good one, almost lol
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the wonderful pictures she used, were all of scorched ground… We use LA for fires, LA for mudslides, LA for drought
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
really, hell on earth
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
scarp here, scarp there, scarp everywhere!
well, it was really gary thomasson--the great, giant, fan
Language of the McCoven--TWSS!, Meh!, STFD!, Bork!, Fail!, STFD! STFD! STFD!
by greatgiantfan on Oct 13, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs