If You Were Commissioner . . . .
Perhaps it's time to take a break, and just consider some perhaps amusing fantasies (other than a new GM). Suppose you woke tomorrow to find yourself Commissioner of Baseball? (In fact, the Commissioner is anything but all-powerful, but we're just playing, so assume that the role gives you god-like powers.) What would be the first things you'd do?
Around our house, the consensus list--14 items--is something like this (in Letterman-style reverse order):
14. No cameramen running around on the field during games.
13. Every anthem singer to have the mike turned off at 2:00 minutes into their rendition.
12. Forbid making fans diss the National Anthem by having to stand and put hand over heart for "God Bless America".
11. No imported foreign players with over a year's experience in their pro leagues eligible for Rookie of the Year.
10. No artificial turf.
9. No players to use snuff wherever cigarettes are now forbidden, or to carry snuff tins in their uniforms.
8. Fans wanting to vote for the All-Star game can do so only by presenting a ticket stub: one stub, one set of votes.
7. Re-disconnect home-field advantage from the All-Star Game.
6. Annually have the players, managers, and coaches rate all umpires in a secret vote, then send the five lowest finishers to AAA ball (and bring up the likewise-selected top 5 from AAA).
5. Make the first playoff round be 7 games, so teams have to use their pitching staffs more realistically.
4. Eliminate the DH; make it good with the Players' Union by increasing rosters to 26.
3. Realign to four 7-team divisions and eliminate all inter-divisional (and inter-league) play, so that we are spared the embarrassment of team A winning their season series with team B handily then losing to them in a playoff, and are restored the pleasures of fanciful speculation over who's better than whom that we used to have in the World Series. (This makes, in effect, four leagues, though the nomenclature remains that of two). In consequence, reduce the season to 156 games, and start it a week later.
2. Mandate a reasonable number of double-headers (which helps keep the season length down).
And the #1 move:
Break the Fox and TBS contracts.
All daydreams, but ah, what sweet dreams . . . .
And yours are . . . ?
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A transparent and open disciplinary policy for officials. We’ve all seen them BLOW the call. How ‘bout some accountability afterwards? The league and the union I’m sure is all “Well we don’t want to embarrass them publicly.” Bullshit, they’ve already embarrassed themselves by screwing up the call in the first place!
Either the ump coming forward and saying, "Yes, I realize now, after having looked at the replay, that …. "
and/or the league coming out and saying “Mr. Jones clearly erred in that call at 2nd base. He will be docked $x and will have to write out, in long hand, 50 times, Section 4 Paragraph 3 of the MLB rule book which covers the rule in question.”
by Merope on Oct 10, 2009 8:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree re umpire accountability
This “don’t want to embarrass anyone” is not only misguided when it is then used as the excuse not to announce anything publicly, but it is also simply absurd on its face: in the age of replays and widespread MLB coverage on television and internet, EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED HAS ALREADY SEEN THE REPLAY AND KNOWS WHAT THE RIGHT CALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN! It’s not like publicly announcing that the league reviewed the play and thinks the umpire made the wrong call will alert fans that the wrong call was made— we already knew, mangs.
The problem I can see is if it calls into question the legitimacy of the game outcomes, which IS a real issue to think about. I just don’t think that refutes public announcements of findings of wrong calls.
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by Mayor of 311 on Oct 10, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forbid making fans diss the National Anthem by having to stand and put hand over heart for “God Bless America”.
I had no idea the hand/heart thing was mandatory for that.
Ya know...ignorance really IS bliss.
Well - I do , anyway.
by victor frankenstein on Oct 10, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Quasi-mandatory.
I may have overstated: but apparently standing, removing of hats, and lugubrious decorum are mandatory. In fact, there have been at least a couple of lawsuits over the matter, one against the Newark Bears and one against the New York Yankees, for harrassment by stadium personnel (or city police) about movements and actions during the rendering of GBA. See:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al/yankees/2009-07-07-fan-lawsuit_N.htm
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by owlcroft on Oct 10, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read this as being reference to the "Take me out to the ballgame".
You know, the song that should be our national anthem and has been tainted because we now have to stand, quietly mourn and pray before singing in joyous celebration of our great game. The emotional contradiction is too much for me.
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by Smotheredinhugs on Oct 11, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apropos of nothing, anyone here ever been to an Orioles game? At the seventh inning stretch, the fans stand and dutifully run through a perfunctory performance of Take Me Out to the Ballgame, but dispensing that with as much dispatch as possible, they then kick it into the real 7th inning stretch tradition — a rousing edition of “Thank God, I’m a Country Boy”. Why, you might ask, do Orioles fans in the depths of even the most desultory season belt out lusty versions of an ancient John Denver hit? No one knows. They’ve been doing it for decades though (at least it was already the 7th inning tradition when I moved to the area in ’88). Just seems to be one of those truly organic local traditions — like the Red Sox with Sweet Caroline (which started almost by accident during the ’86 season). Always makes me smile when I go up to Camden.
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by Roger on Oct 12, 2009 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The stars at night are big and bright
/clap clap clap clap
Deep in the heart of Texas..
I was like… what?
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by ResDog on Oct 12, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I for one (and my wife for another) refuse to have Bud and MLB mandate my patriotism. The G’s better never get heavy-handed with this or they will feel my rath like those misguided few in sec 108 who thought it appropiate to mention my lack of 7th inning GBA compliance.
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by bgunn on Oct 12, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me, you don’t have to stand for either the National Anthem nor GBA. It’s your right as an American not to.
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by SFGuy on Oct 13, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Transportation Restrictions
Disallow the Dodgers from being able to use air transportation in order to reduce carbon emissions in Los Angeles…
All Dodger players will be required to carpool to work (wherever it may be) for the benefit of the environment in Los Angeles…
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Oct 10, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t be in more agreement on your top 4, although it seems to me that #3 should eliminate the need for #5 (with 4 divisions, just go back to 4 playoff teams — never happen I know but I hate the triumph of mediocrity that the Wild Card represents.)
Also, if per chance my powers could extend just a tad beyond the baseball spectrum, I’d eliminate the Star Spangled Banner and God Bless America from existence and make America the Beautiful or This Land is Your Land the new National Anthem.
My Bucardo is better than yours.
A hot August weekday, before a small crowd, when the only thing at stake is the tissue-thin difference between a thing done well and a thing done ill. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, it is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.
by Roger on Oct 10, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
With all the extra teams I don’t mind the 4 teams per league. I look at how excited some of our younger fans were this July and August and I realize this was probably the first time our team was relevant for them.
I do like going back 154 games though. The Fringe teams get to keep the marketing tool of "We’re in this!!" in exchange for 7 games at the end of the season when they are not in "it". And I absolutely hate the 5 game round. The team with the best overall record should get a home field advantage that one weird call, ball hope or a guy having a carrier game does not totally reverse.
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by daveinexile on Oct 10, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the idea of shortening the schedule, actually. People are already unable to adjust statistics for era, that%2
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by jponry on Oct 10, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the idea of shortening the schedule, actually. People are already unable to adjust statistics for era, that would just screw everything up even more.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
"AT LAST I AM A PARENTS." - Buster
by jponry on Oct 10, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that is the first rational rebuttal, (beside the owners lose money!!!) that I have heard. Kudos to you.
Off the cuff that does not bother as much. How to ad jest for expansion, mound lowering and the DH, PEDS etc seem like bigger issues. But I could be very wrong there but I would just view it as another era.
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by daveinexile on Oct 10, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yes, but . . . .
Then think how much more excitement yet we could achieve by having 30 one-team divisions. Everyone is a winner! Everyone goes to post-season! What excitement!
Teams would be a boatload more relevant if their financial asses depended on actually working on being good, instead of adopting the “people will pay to see nine donkeys eating hay” attitude so many have. With 7-team divisions, if you don’t get good, you get poor. A Mr. Adam Smith has had some ideas along those lines. The carrot is nice, but it’s the stick that really motivates.
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by owlcroft on Oct 10, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t the NBA already use that format?
by Merope on Oct 10, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your point, and appreciate the snark in which it is delivered, but I also look at the extra pair of teams has the honey with which the new Commish get a majority of teams to go along with 154.
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Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 11, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teams have been running bad baseball teams at a profit for a hundred years. It escapes me how 7-team divisions are going to change that.
by Evan on Oct 11, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d eliminate the Star Spangled Banner and God Bless America from existence and make America the Beautiful or This Land is Your Land the new National Anthem
…and play non of them at a freaking baseball game.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 10, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe just at the beginning of the season, and on patriotical type holidays and such… does it REALLY need to be before EVERY game?
by Merope on Oct 10, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m curious. Do US public schools (or, heck, schools, I suppose) have morning assemblies every day where the national anthem is played?
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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 10, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at our school. Some do, I’m sure. I know there are religiously affiliated type schools that have morning prayer and whatnot together. I think most schools do the pledge of allegiance – but that’s done in each individual classroom. I teach 4 and 5 year olds so I don’t do the pledge of allegiance. They aren’t old enough to get what it means, and I’m not all that into indoctrination.
by Merope on Oct 10, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting. In the Philippines, as far as I know, morning assembly always involves a flag ceremony; the anthem is one of the first things we were taught. OTOH, I barely remember ever saying our version of the Pledge of Allegiance, and I pretty much think it was just one time and then we dropped it altogether.
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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 10, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
As someone once observed, Macy’s does not play the Star-Spangled Banner every time it opens its door for the day’s business. Forced gestures of patriotism only engender disrespect for the very idea of patriotism.
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by owlcroft on Oct 10, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And then during lunch they all gather for God Bless America.
by Merope on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, there are a LOT of patriotic songs. There are also very few public elementary schools with music programs or even time to sing songs [it’s not on the standardized tests so there’s no time for it] so maybe before each game we get a different patriotic song: This Land is Your Line, America, My Country ’tis of Thee, Grand Old Flag, America the Beautiful…
I bet most kids, unless they are boy scouts, don’t know these old songs anymore!
by Merope on Oct 11, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell I am a boy scout and I don’t even know Grand Old Flag, or This Land is your Line for that matter.
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by scout6 on Oct 12, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops This Land is Your Land …stupid fingers.
by Merope on Oct 13, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its ok, was just ribbing you a bit. But I was serious about the first part.
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by scout6 on Oct 13, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 playoff teams? Let’s have 1993 happen again and we’ll see how you feel about have four playoff teams.
by quincy0191 on Oct 11, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of 4 divisions, but a lack of inter-divisional play would get really really old really really fast.
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by jponry on Oct 10, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh, yes
I’d rather not play the Padres 25 damn times a year, thank you.
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by groug on Oct 10, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
25 Scott Hairston walk-offs!
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by Natto on Oct 10, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cast your mind back . . .
. . . to those thrilling days of yesteryear, when with a cloud of dust and a hearty—oops, wrong intro: to those thrilling days of yesteryear when there were two leagues and no divisions and nobody had much of a problem with that.
The longer-form version, which is scarcely original, is that in those days, when no AL team played any NL team, a good part of the joy of the game was the license it gave for speculation, and the conversations and debates that that league isolation engendered. The excitement of finally having the best of each meet for the first time was stupendous.
With seven-team “divisions” (really, in effect, leagues), there are still six other teams to play, and a lot more scope for genuine, deep-seated, long-lasting rivalries. Moreover, it is a basic principle of sports that one should play contests only against those with whom one is in actual competition for a given title or reward; the rest is diluted as to fan appeal, even the results “count” (though they only count as half a game, an inherently silly idea if you think about it).
This topic deserves an essay of its own, and this is only suggestive of the case that can be made.
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by owlcroft on Oct 10, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah. The rest of your suggestions would be pretty popular, but I bet if you polled baseball fans about this one, you’d have a hard time getting the approval rating into double digits. Do you really want to see the same six-and-only-six opponents over and over again?
To my mind, this is one area in which modern baseball is vastly superior to the old-school version. Interleague play is gimmicky and annoying for those of us who came up before it existed, but I don’t think you can plausibly argue that it diminishes the game in any significant way.
by Evan on Oct 11, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daphuque? When can you lose a playoff berth by a game when you have to play a tough interleague series and your rival plays a cupcake, all in the name of a “traditional rivalry” that didn’t exist until Bud Satan said it did, I think the game is worse than diminished.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 13, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those thrilling days of yesteryear didn’t have as much meaningful games in September that we see now.
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by ResDog on Oct 12, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is like you’re inside my head! I hope you like wide open, uncluttered, views. I have only 2 others on my wish list.
1) Call the strike zone up to the letters and I don’t care how important the game is or name at the plate he doesn’t swing at the high strike it is still a strike. If the pithcer has the guts, or stuff, to throw it.
2) Is my wildest fantasy is to make the Commissioner’s Office something other than the owner’s business collective business agent. Make it something that is almost nonpartisan the really does focus more on the game as a whole. Let the owners, as a whole, have an advocate but remove it from policy and rules enforcement.
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by daveinexile on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
13. Every anthem singer to have the mike turned off at 2:00 minutes into their rendition.
12. Forbid making fans diss the National Anthem by having to stand and put hand over heart for “God Bless America”.
My first two were going to be get rid of the National Anthem and God Bless America. I’m so sick of these fucking songs.
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by marcello on Oct 10, 2009 9:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m OK with the anthem but for the love of corn it’s been eight years, can we PLEASE stop with the God Bless America.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Oct 10, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with you on this. If NYC or DC teams want to do it that is cool by me, kind of like how MIL has sausage races but with a deeper meaning, but this mandatory must be sad thing kind of defeats why I go to a game.
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Brain SabeanOranother.
by daveinexile on Oct 10, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven’t most teams stopped with that?
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 10, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most teams still do it on Sundays and National Holidays during the 7th inning stretch.
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by jponry on Oct 10, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do the Giants do it? I’ve been to Sunday games and I don’t remember hearing it.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 10, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure they’ve done it at most Sunday games I’ve gone to.
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by jponry on Oct 10, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm. Maybe I left to get food and didn’t notice it.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 10, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a recording, very campy. I think it’s Ethel Merman.
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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 10, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many times recorded versions of GBA are sung by Kate Smith. She was the Flyers good luck charm back in the 70’s and 80’s.
by Merope on Oct 10, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kate Smith.
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by bgunn on Oct 12, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah they do. It’s this awful recording full of trills and coloratura and GAAAAH MAKE IT STOP.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
by tk on Oct 10, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GBA is awful but I love the National Anthem like an insane relative.
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by oldjacket on Oct 10, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
3. Realign to four 7-team divisions
Are we getting rid of two teams?
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 10, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Because that would mean putting 50 players out of work, and I don’t see the Players’ Union agreeing.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 10, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d get rid of the Pirates first.
HA HA HA LOOK AT ME I'M ALL HAPPY AND STUFF NO REALLY CAN WE STOP WITH THE COOKYMAN IS SAD JOKES?
:-) :-) :-)
by Cookyman on Oct 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't we just undo the most recent expansion?
And disseminate the riches of the Snake and Ray systems into the greater league? Only one of them won a World Series in recent memory, and really, who remembers that one … half the people at Chase Field any given game weren’t living in Phoenix back then …
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Long ago they came west over the mountains, and I have rooted for them years uncounted; and together through many ages of this world we have fought the long defeat.
by shanghaijim on Oct 10, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or how about the Dodgers and the Yankees?
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by TehGreekStallion on Oct 10, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good catch.
Yes, it would. It is by no means necessary—one could have one league with two 8-team divisions—but it seems probable that there are simply too many markets out there, some of which have almost never supported their team much even when it is competitive or even a champion.
I don’t know what say the Players Association would have in such a move, but since contraction was semi-seriously discussed in the recent past, it must be do-able. Anyway, we’re just playing amusing fantasy games, so yeah, let’s shrink out a couple of bad markets. (The biggest problem in reality, I suspect, would be the lousy markets that have nevertheless persuaded the local governement to buy them a shiny new stadium; those governments would not be happy with a 50,000-seat white elephant.)
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by owlcroft on Oct 10, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unpossible
No way MLB ever gives up the money from the third (actually first) round of playoffs.
Contraction also makes no sense. Far better to add two more teams and go to 8 4-team divisions and eliminate interleague play.
18 games against your division rivals = 54 games.
12 games against each team in one of the other divisions = 48 games
8 games against each team in one of the other divisions = 32 games
7 games against each team in one of the other divisions = 28 games
total 162 games, rotate through the divisions every 3 years to average out hi- and low-draw opponents and players.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, but . . .
We’re just playing. “There’s no thinking in baseball!” (Or something like that.)
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by owlcroft on Oct 11, 2009 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No we aren't, Yes we are
The thing I like best about 4 4-team divisions in each leagues is that it eliminates the wild card, and all teams competing for the division play the exact same schedule (save the swing of 1 home or away game as in my example above).
And it is critically important from my point of view that you play a string of 9 at home and 9 away within your division in as short a time as possible. This allows fairer competition as all clubs within a division get a shot at each other with fairly stable rosters.
Fred Lewis can stand under my umbrella.
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 13, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
/rolls eyes
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by satyricrash on Oct 10, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
/looks at ceiling wondering what satyricrash is looking at.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 10, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’d go back to 154 game seasons.
raise the mound back to the level it was pre-1960s.
make the all star game on the wednesday to give pitched who pitched sunday an extra day and make that thursday an off day for all teams, esp. since many teams have that thursday off anyway.
have every team play on memorial day and labor day. no idea why some teams have off days on holidays. sucks if your team doesn’t play that day.
get rid of the world baseball classic.
put a cap on beer prices at ballparks.
let pete rose in.
i agree — no more fox.
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by WithTechron on Oct 10, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Very well thought out post
As far as the umps go, I wouldn’t mind an occasional mistake, if the mistakes seemed random, and evened out over time, but they do not, as it seems, some teams continuously get the calls, while others seem to almost never get a break. Not sure why that is. Sometimes I think it needs to be investigated. The really good teams however can rise up against a bunch of bad calls in a game. It seems to me the most ominous way to control a game is by the strikes and balls called.
by bradleybear on Oct 10, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Umpiring
Go to an electronic system for ball and strike calls to take the guesswork out of it. Have all other calls eligible for replay.
by W8ingForATitle on Oct 10, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem is . . .
. . . that electronic ball-and-strike systems are a lot less reliable than one might think, especially as to top and bottom of the zone.
(I don’t know about anyone else, but to my eye—and my lady’s—those TBS “PitchTrax” boxes have seemed almost comically bad.)
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by owlcroft on Oct 10, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s different from pitch/fx, though, isn’t it?
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by raisingcain on Oct 10, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so. I hope so.
And it seems quite different even from other broadcasters’ versions.
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by owlcroft on Oct 10, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of agree with you here but I see the cup as half full instead of half empty. MLB finds the right people and put money into it I think MLB can get a automated system that is mostly correct. I would still leave the final call to the home plate ump with the caveat that he over rules too many and there is some explaining to do; if for no other reason than to tighten up the system.
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by daveinexile on Oct 11, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might stop watching baseball if this ever happened.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 11, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 Replay flags per team, a la football
You only get two so it’s not like EVERY play.
Teams get 8 flags when officiated by the Darling crew.
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by Spaghetti on Oct 10, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of the instant replay challenge. There is one problem I see with it, though. There are some plays in baseball that for whatever reason, seem to get called rather generously – the “neighborhood play” for the double play, where they don’t always care if you just drag your foot near the bag but don’t touch it. Imagine what would happen if say in a playoff game, the eighth inning ended on a bases loaded double play. If they challenge and see that he didn’t quite touch second, do the umps correct the call? The ss/2b probably assume they can do that now, since that’s always the way it’s been called. Similarly, most times the baserunner is called out on a tag play if the ball beats him to the base, even if he beats the tag. These are pretty messy situations, the right call is good but how do you explain the changes to players? Just tell them things will be different, or wait till it shows up in a potentially crucial spot and let them find out then?
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by raisingcain on Oct 10, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could not hate this idea more.
Because it somehow shifts the responsibility for getting the calls right from the officials to the teams. With the down-time in baseball and a easy availability of multiple angles of video footage, there is absolutely no reason, none, why each and every non-ball/strike call shouldn’t be reviewed and corrected before the next play. It’s very simple, really, and it kills two birds with one stone: add an official scorer and an official play reviewer to every umpire team, if he spots a suspect call, he can radio down to the crew chief instantly, and have the play reviewed and corrected within 30 seconds, probably before the pitcher would have thrown the next pitch anyway in many cases. Plus, you get an independent scorer who is subject to neither home-town bias nor the appearance of impropriety.
The only reason they “need” the challenge flag in football is because calls/non calls are blown on virtually every down. How many times do you see an obvious hold turn out to be a non-call? How often do you hear a color man say “they allow that move on almost every play”? Such a real-time double-check system is impossible in football because so many of the calls are hopelessly subjective, the clock would get screwed up, and there’s just too much happening on the field at any one time to review it all in real time. Except balls/strike, baseball suffers from none of those issues. Other than the umpire’s union and tradition, there’s absolutely no reason why there can’t, or shouldn’t, be near real time video review in MLB.
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by Bhaakon on Oct 10, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to me the real issue out there if they get into universal replay (other than extending the lengths of games they’re trying to shorten) is the the pitchers constantly cooling down in the middle of innings. Because no matter how nicely you lay it out — you know they’re never going to get replay calls down to 30 seconds. Just won’t happen — the decision to look at replay usually takes a couple of minutes. Unless they eliminate the umps altogether, you’re never going to make the process that efficient, and even with that efficiency, you’ve got pitchers standing around on the mound.
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by Roger on Oct 11, 2009 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's abslutely no reason why a reviewed call should take a couple of minutes
None. It only taes a few second to get a replay up i a telecast, add the tape delay and a few mopre second to contact the home plate ump or crew chief. There’s absolutely no reason for the umps to gather or even for managers to come out (though they might anyway). All told, it shouldn’t really take more than 30 seconds, and, even if it did, it should still take less time than it would for a manager to come out and a argue.
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by Bhaakon on Oct 11, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you — but the list of things that absolutely positively shouldn’t ever happen that are, in fact, SOP is an epically long one.
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by Roger on Oct 11, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm..
I see where it could get dicey with runner/tag calls. It would be kinda confusing and off-pissing.
It could be kept to maybe foul balls, steals, and home run calls as to not disrupt the momentum of the game.
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by Spaghetti on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Spaghetti on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ump age limit
No more 70 – 80 year old umps.
Let’s get umps who are in their prims and have competant vision.
I’m so sick of seeing umps blow calls because they are old and have bad vision.
by skunk5150 on Oct 10, 2009 10:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
And . . .
Because they are no longer flexible enough to get properly down behind the plate for ball-strike calls. (Or, as Eric Gregg was, are too fat.)
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by owlcroft on Oct 11, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Gregg’s nickname (which he didn’t like) was “Rerun” after the 1970’s TV character from “What’s Happening”.
"All I know is right now, you comeback and do you dwell on that? I think you're man enough to take it, you're man enough to chew on it, to spit it out and you learn from it. ... I think winners let it go. I think losers dwell on it and talk about it all week and that screws you up for the next opportunity going forward." - Mike Singletary after the 49ers loss to the Vikings
by SFGuy on Oct 11, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t he the ‘hamburger on 3rd base’ guy?
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 11, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
5. Make the first playoff round be 7 games, so teams have to use their pitching staffs more realistically.
This is the biggest thing to me. For a league that plays 162 regular season games to have a best of 5 playoff series is an absolute joke.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Oct 11, 2009 11:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you can’t win >40% of your games against quality opposition, should you really be in the playoffs?
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by S.F. Giangst on Oct 13, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
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by Cookyman on Oct 13, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When are you going to stop beating your wife?
That is a case of the true meaning of “begging the question”. It is an ancient saying in the game that on any given day, any team can beat any other team. If two teams played a one-game playoff, would you take the result as definitively dispositive of the question of which was the “better” team?
The traditional, and silly, calculations made in discussions of playoff-series length all focus on the extent to which additional games add supposed statistical weight to the likelihood that the “better” team will win (we can define “better” as meaning the team that would, playing in some fantasy celestial stadium with the same players at their current skill levels, win a 10,000-game series). Such feeble analyses typically conclude that a 9-game series adds little to what a 7-game series “proves”, and that even going from 5 to 7 games doesn’t increase “confidence” by that much.
All such nonsenses are implicitly based on the idea that each game is itself a valid trial between the teams involved. But, as we have seen, that is rarely so. Flukes can supervene, and affect the outcome as much or more than the basic abilities of the contestants, whether those flukes be natural, or come to the field dressed in blue. The more games played, the better the chances that unfair flukes outside the provenance of a team’s ability will even out.
And all that is quite beside the point that over a 162-game season, a team has to use certain pitchers in certain ways, whereas in a 5-game series they can get be without the 5th, or even the 4th starter, which makes for a team not representative of the play that got them there.
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by owlcroft on Oct 13, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going off of a recent Neyer blog post
… how about altering the division series games again, this time awarding the first three games to the team with home-field advantage? It seems to me that will emulate the regular-season realities most closely; if the home team fails to sweep the visitors in a three game-home series, it goes to the other team’s park. The original format was home field was given as the last three games of a 5-game series, by which time two of those games might not be necessary; the way it is now, advantage seems almost even between the two.
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by shanghaijim on Oct 11, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t seen any studies on the subject, but I don’t see how the order of games could affect the outcome in any way. In any case, you need to win 3 games. Winning the first 3 isn’t any easier than winning the last 3.
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by Cookyman on Oct 11, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Studies? I don't need studies!
I’ve got my eyes!
hee hee. Actually, you just said what Neyer said, but I still think order matters. Nope, I have no reasoning that will satisfy you, so don’t ask me for any!
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by shanghaijim on Oct 11, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No players to use snuff wherever cigarettes are now forbidden, or to carry snuff tins in their uniforms.
No way MLBPA allows that to happen.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 11, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember . . .
This is fantasies we’re playing with here. In this case, most regrettably so, as you say.
I once gave Sandy Alderson, when he was at the A’s, a copy of a brochure I had picked up in a dentist’s office, chockful of truly horrible photos of the results of mouth cancer from tobacco, and suggested the team distribute copies to players. He told me they had already tried similar things, with roughly zero result.
Well, it is a narcotic . . . .
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by owlcroft on Oct 11, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC, they have cancer survivors (sometimes former players) in ST and occasionally they make appearances in MiLB clubhouses.
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by Giant among Angels on Oct 11, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were the Commish.....
I’d promptly shoot myself in the head because that would mean I was Bud Selig.
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by RichH on Oct 12, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but if you were Bud Selig you love your self so much that you couldn’t bear to think about the world without you in it!
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